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Emergency Hearing-Fed Judge Says Hunter Biden's Lawyers May Have LIED, plus the WH Backtracks, Implicitly Admits Joe Biden LIED about Overseas Business Deals with Son Hunter · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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  Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: with you as well, and we have got a pack
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  Speaker 1: show for you, including some breaking news that deals with
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  Speaker 1: the sentencing of Hunter Biden, plus a massive change in
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  Speaker 1: narrative from the White House basically now admitting that okay, yes,
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  Speaker 1: the President did get involved with the son's business dealings
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  Speaker 1: and they were hoping that no one would notice this admission.
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  Speaker 1: We noticed it. We're going to play that for you.
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  Speaker 1: Plus a big win on the strategic patroleum reserves, which
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  Speaker 1: is going to have a huge impact on this country. Senator,
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  Speaker 1: let's first start though with this judge, break this down
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  Speaker 1: because this scandal in Delaware on the eve of Hunter
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  Speaker 1: Biden's plea deal. He's supposed to be in court at
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  Speaker 1: nine o'clock and apparently there could be some people that
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  Speaker 1: are sanctioned for misrepresenting to the court what they were
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  Speaker 1: doing with Hunter Biden. Break all this down.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we have massive breaking news that broke last night.
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  Speaker 2: So this morning at nine am, Hunter Biden is scheduled
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  Speaker 2: to appear in federal court and plead guilty to two
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  Speaker 2: misdemeanor charges for failure to pay taxes in twenty seventeen
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  Speaker 2: and twenty eighteen. He is also expected to avoid prosecution
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  Speaker 2: on a separate felony gun possession charge of illegally possessing
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  Speaker 2: a firearm as a gun user as a drug user.
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  Speaker 2: All of that is scheduled to go down at nine
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  Speaker 2: And it's a plea deal that is designed to be
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  Speaker 2: a slap on the wrist so that Hunter serves no
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  Speaker 2: jail time whatsoever, and that its real purpose, as we've discussed,
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  Speaker 2: is to protect Joe Biden from any exposure to Hunter's influence,
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  Speaker 2: selling and corruption. Well, last night a bombshell went off,
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  Speaker 2: which is the US District Judge in Delaware, Mary Ellen Norieika,
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  Speaker 2: issued an order and the order is directing Hunter Biden's
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  Speaker 2: lawyers to show up at nine am this morning and
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  Speaker 2: explain why they shouldn't be sanctioned for lying to the court.
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  Speaker 2: And let me explain what happened here, because this is
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  Speaker 2: a big damn deal and to be honest, I've never
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  Speaker 2: seen anything remotely like it. So the plea hearing this morning,
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  Speaker 2: Hunter is expected to come in and plead not guilty.
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  Speaker 2: The judge could approve the plea deal today, say okay,
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  Speaker 2: plea deal's done. Slap on the wrist, all done, it
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  Speaker 2: could be over today. Well, the House of Representatives is
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  Speaker 2: dismayed by that. They've seen the hearings on all of
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  Speaker 2: the corruption, the hearing the evidence that we've discussed at
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  Speaker 2: length on this podcast. And so the House of Representatives
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  Speaker 2: filed an amicus brief with the court, laying out the
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  Speaker 2: evidence against Hunter and Joe and the corruption and really
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  Speaker 2: making the case that a slap on the wrist is
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  Speaker 2: not in the interest of justice. That's pretty unusual. It's
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  Speaker 2: not often that a criminal defendant has the House of
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  Speaker 2: Representatives of the United States Congress file a brief opposing
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  Speaker 2: their sweet hard deal. What happened next is extraordinary. Apparently,
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's lawyers picked up the phone and called the
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  Speaker 2: Clerk's office of the Court and pretended to be the
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  Speaker 2: lawyers for the House of Representatives. And Hunter Biden's lawyers
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  Speaker 2: apparently said, hey, we're the lawyers for the House Representatives.
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  Speaker 2: We filed this amicus brief with attachments. Could you withdraw
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  Speaker 2: that please? We didn't mean to file that, and the
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  Speaker 2: clerk's office apparently did so said okay, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to withdraw that filing, we will. Well, it turns out
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  Speaker 2: that at least what the court believes right now as
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  Speaker 2: they were lying. And I want to read because late
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  Speaker 2: last night the court issued a special order and it's
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  Speaker 2: a short order. I'm going to read the order. It's
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  Speaker 2: oral order. The Court is in receipt of the party's
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  Speaker 2: letters regarding the motion for leave to file an amicus brief.
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  Speaker 2: As an initial matter, defendant has not indicated what specific
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  Speaker 2: information should be sealed, made any showing as required under
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  Speaker 2: a particular case. In fact, defendant has not filed a
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  Speaker 2: formal request with the court to seal anything. The Court
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  Speaker 2: will temporarily place the documentuer seal intil the close of
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  Speaker 2: business on July twenty sixth, to afford defendant the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to try to make the requisite showing. Should the defendant
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  Speaker 2: fail to make that showing, the document will be unsealed
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  Speaker 2: in its entirety. In addition, the Court has reviewed the
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  Speaker 2: allegations in mister Katilla's letter that's the lawyer for the
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  Speaker 2: House made to the Clerk's office regarding the amicus materials.
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  Speaker 2: Mister Katilla asserts that an individual associated with the firm
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  Speaker 2: representing defendant Hunter Biden called the Clerk's office pretending to
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  Speaker 2: be associated with mister Katillia and requesting the amicus materials
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  Speaker 2: be removed from the docket, which the clerk's office did.
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  Speaker 2: The response from defendant's counsel on this issue was that quote,
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  Speaker 2: as far as he was aware. The managing attorney from
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  Speaker 2: Latham called the clerk's office to note that personal tax
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  Speaker 2: information of the defendant had been filed in a non
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  Speaker 2: redacted manner and to inquire regarding having the information sealed,
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  Speaker 2: and that quote. The clerk took the filing down on
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  Speaker 2: their own accord. Defendant's counsel also added that he hoped
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  Speaker 2: mister Katila had quote an affidavit from the clerk in
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  Speaker 2: support of his version of the events. The Court has
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  Speaker 2: discussed the matter with relevant individuals in the clerk's office
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  Speaker 2: that has been informed that the caller, Miss Jessica Bengals,
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  Speaker 2: represented that she worked with mister Catilla, in other words,
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  Speaker 2: the house's lawyer, and requested the amicus materials be taken
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  Speaker 2: down because they contained sensitive grand jury, taxpayer and so
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  Speaker 2: security information. Here's the critical language from the court's order
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  Speaker 2: last night. It appears that the caller misrepresented her identity
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  Speaker 2: and who she worked for in an attempt to improperly
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  Speaker 2: convince the Clerk's office to remove the amicus material from
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  Speaker 2: the docket. Therefore, it is hereby ordered that honor before
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  Speaker 2: nine pm today on July twenty fifth, counsel for the
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  Speaker 2: defendant shall show cause as to why sanctions should not
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  Speaker 2: be considered for misrepresentations to the court. Now, Ben I
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  Speaker 2: got to say, I've practiced law a lot of years,
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  Speaker 2: just just about thirty nearly thirty years now. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know another instance where a lawyer for one party calls
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  Speaker 2: the court and pretends to be a lawyer for the
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  Speaker 2: other party. Like that just doesn't happen. That's the kind
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  Speaker 2: of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Do you get disbarred for that? Minimum? And that I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you ruin your career right if you do that, because
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  Speaker 1: you're literally calling up and lying about what team you're
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  Speaker 1: on in a court case. I would assume that's instant
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  Speaker 1: and you're disbarred. You're never gonna practice law again. And
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  Speaker 1: is there even the possibility of, like you get charge
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  Speaker 1: of the crime for that potentially.
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  Speaker 2: Look, a lawyer is an officer of the court. You
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  Speaker 2: have an obligation of candor to the court. You have
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  Speaker 2: an obligation of truthfulness to the court. A lawyer lies
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  Speaker 2: to a judge at his or her peril. Now I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what happened, and we're gonna have a hearing
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  Speaker 2: at nine am this morning. I expect there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: some real fireworks. But the DOJ and Hunter Biden's lawyers
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  Speaker 2: were hoping this would be a quiet, little plea hearing
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  Speaker 2: where we got a plea agreement. Okay, all is good,
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  Speaker 2: slapping the wrist, it's all over. Instead the judges saying,
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  Speaker 2: tell me why I should not sanction Hunter Biden's lawyer
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  Speaker 2: for lying to me and pretending to be the lawyer
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  Speaker 2: for the House of Representatives. That's a big damn deal,
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  Speaker 2: and this single handedly could scuttle the plea deal.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's go to the just a normal case. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: take hunter Byen out of it. Yeah, take take the
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  Speaker 1: fact this is a sweetheart deal and it you can. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very clear you would agree center. This
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  Speaker 1: judge knows that this is a sweetheart deal. Would you
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  Speaker 1: agree with that? At this point, there's been too much
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  Speaker 1: information out there. There's been too much. It's been exposed
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  Speaker 1: in the House.
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  Speaker 2: Look, it's too early to say. Okay, we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: At the hearing today, we'll see what the judge says.
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  Speaker 2: If I were a judge, I would not take this
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  Speaker 2: plea deal. A judge doesn't have to take the plea deal.
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  Speaker 2: A judge can can press back. It is clear the
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  Speaker 2: Biden DOJ wants the plea deal taken because the plea
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  Speaker 2: deal is designed to number one, make Hunter Biden the
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  Speaker 2: fall guy, but do it in the way that there's
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  Speaker 2: zero jail times, the most serious charges have gone away
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  Speaker 2: and that's just a little slap on the wrist. But
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  Speaker 2: number two, most critically, this is designed to protect Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 2: If this plea deal gets thrown out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what happens next? That was the question I was
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  Speaker 1: going to ask you, is if he throws out and
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  Speaker 1: says no, I don't accept this, then what happens next
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  Speaker 1: in this case? Does that mean that all the other
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  Speaker 1: things that they didn't have to deal with now all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden become a reality in.
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  Speaker 2: This No, what would happen if the plea deal is
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  Speaker 2: thrown out? So Hunter can withdraw his guilty plea because
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  Speaker 2: the guilty plea is based on a plea deal, and
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  Speaker 2: the judge could say, try your case. You have brought
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  Speaker 2: charges against Hunter Biden. We want to see you try
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  Speaker 2: your case, and we're going to impanel a jury and
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  Speaker 2: have a trial. But then at the end of it,
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  Speaker 2: the judge can say, I'm going to sentence the defendant
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  Speaker 2: if he's found guilty that I'm not going to take
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  Speaker 2: the plea deal that I've determined this plea deal is
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  Speaker 2: not in the interest of justice. If the judge determines
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  Speaker 2: that Hunter Biden's lawyers have lied to the Court of misrepresented,
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  Speaker 2: and this order says the judge thinks they have. Now
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  Speaker 2: the judge may be mistaken. But what the order says
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  Speaker 2: is she went and asked the clerk's office, Hey, what
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  Speaker 2: did the lawyer who called you say? And according to
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  Speaker 2: the order she entered, that's what made her enter the
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  Speaker 2: order to show cause why Hunter Biden's lawyer should not
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  Speaker 2: be sanctioned. I have, in nearly thirty years of practicing law,
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  Speaker 2: never seen an order like this. And I got to say,
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  Speaker 2: if you're Hunter Biden's lawyers right now, you are freaking out.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're the Biden DOJ desperately wanting to protect
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  Speaker 2: the big guy, you're freaking out. This is a major development.
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  Speaker 1: Is it just one lawyer that would be sanctioned the
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  Speaker 1: one that made the phone call. Or is there a
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  Speaker 1: good chance that all the lawyers on the case that
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  Speaker 1: knew that this happened. Are they going to be held
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  Speaker 1: accountable for this basically in essence, because it would be
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  Speaker 1: a strategy that they would have done as a legal team.
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  Speaker 2: It depends on what the facts demonstrate. The lawyer who's
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  Speaker 2: most directly on the hook is the lawyer who is
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  Speaker 2: accused of lye to the court. And each lawyer is
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  Speaker 2: an officer of the court, and you have an ethical
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  Speaker 2: obligation to the court, and so that lawyer is the
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  Speaker 2: one most directly at risk. But if it turns out
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  Speaker 2: other lawyers on Hunter Biden's defense team knew about it,
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  Speaker 2: directed her to do this, We're part of the decision
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  Speaker 2: to do this, they could all be sanctioned. It depends
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  Speaker 2: on what the facts are. I don't know what the
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  Speaker 2: facts are. I'm just reading an order that is a
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  Speaker 2: holy crap order.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the narrative that's also
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  Speaker 1: changing at the White House. I've not actually heard anyone
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  Speaker 1: talking about this. You and I talked about this earlier,
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  Speaker 1: and this was a very big change in the narrative
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  Speaker 1: at the White House. So the White House has said
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, over and over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Biden said, over and over and over again, I've
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  Speaker 1: never talked to my son or any of the family
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  Speaker 1: members of Biden family members about any of these business dealings.
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  Speaker 1: He said that he said during the campaign. Now the
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  Speaker 1: White House has changed that narrative. Listen carefully, you'll probably
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  Speaker 1: pick it up, and if not, we'll play it a
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  Speaker 1: second time for you.
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  Speaker 3: Chairman James Comerce today says that the oversight the Committee
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  Speaker 3: excuse me, has evidence that the President in the past
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  Speaker 3: communicated directly with foreign business associates of the Sun Hunter
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  Speaker 3: Biden many times. Careers of the White House and the
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  Speaker 3: President still stand behind his comment that he's never been
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  Speaker 3: involved and has never even spoken to his son about his.
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  Speaker 4: So I've been asked this question a million times. The
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  Speaker 4: answer is not going to change. The answer remains the same.
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  Speaker 4: The president was never in business with his son. I
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  Speaker 4: just don't have anything.
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  Speaker 2: Else to add.
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  Speaker 1: Senator, I know you heard it. The narrative's now changed.
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  Speaker 1: It used to be I never talked about business with
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  Speaker 1: my family. Now it is quote the president was never
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  Speaker 1: in business with his son, quote unquote.
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  Speaker 2: So Ben, this is a big deal. You are right
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  Speaker 2: that Joe Biden has said over and over and over again,
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  Speaker 2: he never talked with Hunter Biden about his business. He
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  Speaker 2: never talked with Hunter Biden about his business. The White
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  Speaker 2: House has said Joe Biden never talked with Hudder Biden
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  Speaker 2: about his business. That was their line. They said it repeatedly.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the problem. It is now more and more clear
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  Speaker 2: that Joe Biden talked with Hunter Biden and with Hunter
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  Speaker 2: Biden's business associates about his businesses a lot. So for example,
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  Speaker 2: Miranda Devine, who's done just fantastic reporting on this entire
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  Speaker 2: scandal for The New York Post, she wrote two days
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  Speaker 2: ago a story that the headline is Hunter Biden put
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  Speaker 2: then VP Dad Joe on the phone with business associates
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  Speaker 2: at least two dozen times. Ex partner Devin Archer to testify,
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  Speaker 2: and Archer, who was Hunter Biden's former best friend, he
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  Speaker 2: was his business partner. They were both on the board
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  Speaker 2: of Barisma together. Apparently Devon Archer is going to testify
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  Speaker 2: according to the reporting the New York Post, that Hunter
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  Speaker 2: Biden would dialu his father, then Vice president, Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: on speakerphone in the meetings with his overseas business partners.
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  Speaker 2: According to testimony expected before Congress this week from Devon Archer,
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  Speaker 2: Here's what James Comer said. We are looking forward very
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  Speaker 2: much to hearing from Devon Archer about all the times
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  Speaker 2: he has witnessed Joe Biden meeting with Hunter Biden's overseas
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  Speaker 2: business partners when he was vice president, including on speakerphone.
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  Speaker 2: One such meeting was in Dubai late in the evening
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  Speaker 2: of Friday, December fourth, twenty fifteen, after a board meeting
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  Speaker 2: of the Ukrainian energy company Barisma, which was paying Hunter
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  Speaker 2: eighty three thousand dollars a month as director. Archer, who
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  Speaker 2: was also director, is expected to testify that after dinner
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  Speaker 2: with Barisa board at the Bergall Arab hotel. He and
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  Speaker 2: Hunter traveled six miles north to the Forest Seasons Resort
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  Speaker 2: Dubai at Juriah Beach to have drinks with Hunter's friends.
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  Speaker 2: While they were sitting outside at the bar, Vadim Puzzharski,
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  Speaker 2: a senior Borisma executive, phone to ask where they were
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  Speaker 2: because Borisma's owner Mikoleos Lootchevsky, who we talked about a
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  Speaker 2: lot on Monday's Pod, needed to speak to Hunter urgently.
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  Speaker 2: Soon afterwards, the two Ukrainians joined Hunter and Archer at
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  Speaker 2: the Four Seasons bar, and Posarski asked, Hunter, can you
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  Speaker 2: ring your dad? At the time, it was early afternoon
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  Speaker 2: Friday in Washington, DC. Hunter then called his father, put
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  Speaker 2: him on speaker, place the phone on the table, and
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  Speaker 2: introduced the Ukrainians to Joe Biden by names as Nikolai
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  Speaker 2: and Vadam. He also said words to the effect that
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  Speaker 2: the Barisma bigwigs need our support. Joe Biden greeted the Ukrainians,
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  Speaker 2: but spoke only in vague pleasantries. Archer is expected to testify.
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  Speaker 2: They will note in context that three days after the
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  Speaker 2: speakerphone call, Joe Biden was due to fly to Kiev
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  Speaker 2: to address the Ukrainian Parliament. Ten weeks before the call,
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  Speaker 2: on September twenty fourth, twenty fifteen, the US ambassador had
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  Speaker 2: given a speech about corruption in Ukraine in which he
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  Speaker 2: targeted Lotchevsky by name. But by then the Ukrainian prosecutor general,
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  Speaker 2: that's Victor Chokin, who we talked about again at length
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  Speaker 2: on Monday's podcast that if you didn't listen to Monday's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: go back and listen to it. It's incredibly important what
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  Speaker 2: the FD ten twenty three said. But Ukrainian Prosecutor General
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  Speaker 2: Victor Schokin was investigating Barisma for corruption, and a month
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  Speaker 2: later Chokin was fired right after Joe Biden threatened to
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  Speaker 2: withhold one billion dollars in usaid to Ukraine. So here's
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  Speaker 2: the problem, Ben, Joe Biden has said repeatedly, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: talk to Hunter about his business. I didn't talk to
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  Speaker 2: Hunter about his business. The White House has said that,
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  Speaker 2: And now you've got Hunter's business partners saying, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden talked to our business partners all the time.
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  Speaker 2: That's a huge problem. And so I want you to
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  Speaker 2: play two things. Number one, I want us to listen
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  Speaker 2: to what the old White House message was which is
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  Speaker 2: I didn't talk to Hunter's business partners. Take a listen, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Your vice president.
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  Speaker 2: How many times have you ever spoken to your son
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  Speaker 2: about his overseas business dealings.
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  Speaker 5: I've never spoken my son about his overseas pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Sooners, now, that was in twenty nineteen, Senator, that was
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  Speaker 1: in Des Moines, Iowa, when he was running for president.
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  Speaker 1: And he's saying, I've never I never talked about it ever.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Now they're saying, okay, Mane, we did, but we were
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: never officially in business together.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: So he said there flat out on the campaign trail
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: for president. This is not a long time ago. This
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: is while he's running for president. He says, I have
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: never spoken to my son about his overseas business deals. Now,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: his problem is, Devin Archers supposed to say that he's
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: spoken at least two dozen times. So I want you
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: to play again.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Hold on, let me let me also add this real quick,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: because this is where I just I have to do
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: this because it makes me laugh. It's not just that
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: first time I forgot about this and I just pulled it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: We put together a montage of Biden answering this question
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: over and over again, which the White House has just done, done,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: now good by their new admission. Here's the entire montage,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: starting back in twenty nineteen.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: And how many times have you ever spoken to your
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: son about his overseas business dealings.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: I've never spoken my son about his overseas be as sooners.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: I have never discussed with my son, or my brother
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: or anyone else and being having to do with their businesses, period.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: And what I will do is the same thing we
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: did in our administration. It'll be an absolute wall between
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: personal and private and the government.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Do you stand by your statement that you did not
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: discuss any of your son's overseas business des large?
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Stand by that student.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Do you think it was wrong for him to take
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: that position knowing that it was really because that company
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: wanted access to you. Well, that's not true.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: You're saying things you do not know what you're talking about.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: No one said that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Who said that?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot of time. Just said it, senator,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and now you're undoing it at the White House from
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the podium.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: So his answer is, I've never talked to Hunter. I've
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: never talked to Hunter. I've never talked to his business associates.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And I want you to play again yesterday's answer because
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the the beautiful thing is Kareem John Pierre says, I'm
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: going to give you the exact same answer I've given before,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: and then she says a totally different answer. So play
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: that once again, because this is a massive shift, because
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the White House realizes, oh crap, Joe Biden's been caught
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: in a massive lie that implicates him in foreign corruption.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: So listen to kareein. John Pierre's trying to be very
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: clever and shift their answer.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Chairman James Comer today says at the Oversight Committee, because
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: has evidence that the President in the past communicated directly
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: with foreign business associates of the Sun Hunter Biden many
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: times curios of the White House, and the President still
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: stand behind his comment that he's never been involved and
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: has never even spoken to his son about his.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: So I've been asked this question a million times. The
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: answer is not going to change. The answer remains the same.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: The President was never in business with his son. I
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: just don't have anything else to.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Add there it is, So the ANSWER's not going to change.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: So if the ANSWER's not going to change, you would
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: expect the President's never spoken to his son about his
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: business deals. The President's never spoken to his business associates
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: about his business deals. But she doesn't say that. She
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: says the president was never in business with his sons.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Now let me show you it gets even worse. There's
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: a subsequent article came out in The Federalist that is
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: entitled Joe Biden allegedly interacted with sons clients more than
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: two hundred times. So you've got the story from the
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: New York Post from Miranda to that Biden spoke with
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: foreign businessmen and potential investors for Hunter at least twenty
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: four times. But the Federalist reports that there are more
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: than one hundred and eighty other episodes where the president
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: interacted with his son's business partners. So, for example, then
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: President Joe Biden reportedly met with Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakhstan
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: business partners at Cafe Milatta, which is a really shishi
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: restaurant in Washington, d C. Vadim Pushharski, an executive at Barisma,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: thanked Hunter in writing for the introduction to his father.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: So here's an email that Pojarski wrote, quote, Dear Hunter,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: thank you for inviting me to DC and giving me
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to meet your father and spend some time together. Now,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: by the way, Joe Biden says, no, never talk to
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: my son about business. Post Narski, the Ukrainian Barisa official, says, hey,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: thanks for introducing me to your dad. Give me the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: opportunity to meet your father. I mean it is stunning.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Visitor's logs show that Hunter Biden's business associates visited the
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: White House. How many times do you think Hunter Biden's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: business associates visited the White House while Joe Biden was
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Vice President?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: If you count them all up there, it's countless. I mean,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: it's not one or two times, and that many of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the people got to go like a dozen or more
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: times while he was the vice president.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: So according to Fox News, it's at least eighty times.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's diary shows more than one hundred events at
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: the Vice President's resident while Joe Biden was living at
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: the Naval Observatory. Photographs from the same day as one
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: meeting on the calendar November nineteenth, twenty fifteen, features two
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Mexican billionaires, Carlos Slim and Miguel Alaman Velasco and Hunter
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: spent years leveraging the White House to pursue business deals
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: with Slim this pattern. Listen. At this point, it is
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: becoming almost impossible to maintain that Hunter Biden was doing
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: anything other than selling not only access to Daddy, but
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: favors from Daddy for millions of dollars. And you want
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: proof of that. Here's a simple question. Why did the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: White House change their story? Kareem John Pierre said, I'm
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: gonna give you the exact same answer I've given before, and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: then she gave a totally different answer. She'd said, here's
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: the exact same answer. Joe Biden's never spoken to Hunter
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: about his business dealings, never spoken to his business associates.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: That would be the same answer. She didn't do that,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: she says, Oh, Joe Biden's never been in business with
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: his son. They realize they're in hot water. They are
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: backtracking mightily. And you know what, I'm gonna make a prediction.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I love it when you do this, by the way,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: because it's always good.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Not a single corporate media outlet will report on this
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: massive shift. ABC is not going to report on it,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: CBS is not going to report on it, NBC is
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: not going to report on it. CNN's not going to
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: report on it. MSNBC is not going to report on it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: The Washington Post is not going to report on it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: The New York Times is not going to report on it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: They are all covering up for Joe Biden, and I
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: hope I'm wrong. You know what if if by ten
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: thirty today one of them is so shame they say,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: holy crap, I'm actually going to be a reporter and
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: report on the fact, just like in Watergate, when when
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the story starts changing, that's news. Any real journalist will
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: report on that. We'll see if anybody does today.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you share this podcast as always on
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• 25:49
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• 25:55
  Speaker 1: it's been complete crickets since this massive you know, narrative
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: from the White House on Joe Biden's involvement in essence
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: saying yes, he was involved with his son's business stealings,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: but they were quote never business partners. This, on top
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  Speaker 1: but a big win when it comes the issue of
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: national security. And it's something that you let on with
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a strategic oil reserves, the petroleum reserves that have been
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: rated by this administration to artificially drop the price of
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: gas before the midterm elections, and they don't seem to
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: be wanting to put oil back in our strategical reserves
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: as well. That is a national security issue. But you
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: also did some other things tell us about this victory.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. The strategic petroleum Reserve was established
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: to protect our national security and our energy security, that
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: if we get in a time of warfare, if we
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: get at a time of crisis, that we have oil
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: we could rely on that we won't have our economy
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: grind to a halt. And it's there for emergencies. It's
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: not there to be a slush fund for Democrat presidents
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: to try to cover their rear end an election. Well,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden last year sold one hundred and eighty million
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserves. And the
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: reason is he was trying to drive down gasoline prices
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: right before the election. Not because he wants prices low,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: mind you, Biden wants prices higher and higher and higher.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: He just wants them to dip right before an election,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: so he thinks the voters won't notice that. Now, the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: result of those sales is it pushed the levels in
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to the lowest they've ever been
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: in forty years. And last July, as part of selling
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: thirty nine million barrels from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, the
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Biden administration sold one million barrels to unipec America, which
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: is a subsidiary of China's Sinopek. And I will point
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: out also that Hudter Biden, our friend who knows how
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: to monetize Daddy, has done business with the Chinese entities
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: that are profiting off of Daddy's sales of oil to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. It is corrupt. It's also stupid
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: that we would take our oil there to keep our
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: economy our national security safe and sell it to China,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: our enemy. So I introduced an amendment to ban the
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: United States government to ban the Biden administration from selling
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: oil from the Strategic Petrol In Reserve to China, to Russia,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: to Iran, or to North Korea. Basic principle, let's not
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: sell our oil that's here to keep us safe to
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: our enemies that are not there.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: To keep us safe.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: We forced to vote in the Senate last week. This
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: was an amendment that was authored by me and Joe Manchin,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: so it was bipartisan. And actually, you know what the
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: lineup was on the amendment. What do you think there were?
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: There were two other senators that were the lead sponsors.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Take a guess. Oh gosh, I'm trying to think here
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: it would be you said Joe Manchin. I'm gonna laugh.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Can I throw out a curveball? Yeah?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Mitt Romney, No, but that'd be a good guess. Mitt
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: voted for it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I was trying to think, you're stump
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: at me here. I was like, all right, I gotta
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: go with a really good name here.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I'll give you even better than that. So
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: number one we had Jony Ernst, which is not shocking.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Jony's a good friend. We do a lot together and
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: John Fetterman. So this was cruise mansion, Ernst Fetterman.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. That's an interesting dinner right there. Y'all should
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: So we had a vote on it. Do you know
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: what the vote was?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: What was it?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Eighty five to fourteen. So we didn't just win, we
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: won by a massive margin, eighty five to fourteen. And
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: so that's now part of the National Defense Authorization Act.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: When this bill passes into law, which I believe it's
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: going to the Biden administration, will no longer be able
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: to sell oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to China,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: or to Russia, or to North Korea or to Iran. Now,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: fourteen people voted no. The lead Democrat who opposed me
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: is Chris Murphy, very very liberal senator from Connecticut.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: And what's the reason for not just him, but the
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: other fourteen to oppose this?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Well, let me give you their own reasoning. So in
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the last Congress, I went to the Senate floor and
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I tried to pass this by unanimous consent. And one
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: of the ways you get things passed in the Senate
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: is you can pass it by unanimous consent, where you
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: stand up and if nobody objects it passes, and a
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff gets pass that way. So I went
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to the Senate floor. I said, look, this is basic
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: common sense. No one should object. Let's pass this. Chris
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Murphy from Connecticut came and objected. And one of the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: things I argued is I said, look, there's a war
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: waging in Ukraine right now. We should not be selling
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: oil to our enemies. If anything, we should be selling
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to our friends and not enriching our enemies. Chris Murphy
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: countered with Democrat legislation that would prohibit all sales of
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: oil and gas, not just from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: but from any private entity in the United States to
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: any foreign nation. And the two of us had a
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: debate on the Senate floor where I said, wait a second,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I'm standing up saying America should not send oil to
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: our enemies.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: The Democrats are countering with we shouldn't sell oil to
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: our friends. We should tell our friends, our allies, no,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you can't have any of our oil, and we should
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: our allies. We should force Europe. Sorry, you got to
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: buy from Russia because the idiot Democrats in Washington don't
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: want to sell you Americant oil. So go put money
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: in Putin's coffers. It was truly insane, and yet Chris
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Murphy doubled down. But I got to say, when we
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: came to a vote, eighty five fourteen is a pretty
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: good margin.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big margin. And it's also really an issue,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: as you just described, of national security. Yes, and this
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: when people that don't understand a national security aspect of this.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: If we sell our oil to our adversaries and we
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: get well on our stategical reserves, that's a double whammy
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: from us from a national security standpoint.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: No, that's exactly right. And China is in the middle
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: of a massing, enormous reservoir of oil precisely because they
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: want to be in a strong national security position. So
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: when the Biden administration is selling oil to China, they
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: are weakening America and helping China. Which is why the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Senate overwhelmingly says stop doing that. And I got to
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: say it says a lot that Senate Democrats voted to
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: say Joe Biden stopped doing that.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that shouldn't be very controversial at all. A
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: big win on this one. Congratulations on the leadership also
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: at being bipartisan and It's also amazing that fourteen people
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: would vote against this, but welcome to these strange times
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