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Cathy O'Brien Exposes Epstein, Elite Networks & Global Control Systems · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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You guys are heading to Juan's event?
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Yeah, we're gonna be there.
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Excellent.
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Excellent.
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All right.
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I wanted to be.
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I had planned to be
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Oh.
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But-
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But you're you're … Unfortunately, your, the storm that hit you, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it changed a lot-
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Yep
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… for now.
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Yeah.
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Here we are, Cathy O'Brien.
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We're talking about our, she just recently had a storm that hit her home.
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We're gonna, ask for donations.
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I gave a nice little donation for her.
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She's trying to recover her home.
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We'll show some pictures of that in a second.
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Tell us about that Cathy what happened?
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I was just working on my MKUltra papers.
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I've got some important paperwork that I was pulling together, and
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I was real focused on it, and it started to rain a bit, and I thought
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I better save my information.
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About the time I had that thought, the house was covered in 38 trees.
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It was instantaneous.
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There was no tornado warning.
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There was no drop in, pressure like I usually would feel with a tornado.
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There was n- no indication whatsoever.
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Just all of a sudden, wham, slam.
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And and neighbors spent the next few days, digging us out where we could at least get
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out the doors and get some electric crew up here and get our power hooked back on.
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It was g- it was quite a surprise.
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I'm amazed that nobody was hurt.
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This is just m- miracle of miracles in that regard.
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And the house is still standing.
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It's damaged.
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The roof is ripped up.
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There's a lot of problems.
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The retaining walls were all knocked down.
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The garage was smashed.
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The truck was smashed, carport.
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It was really a lot of damage.
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But, r- here I am right now, power's on, sitting here, and just so happy to be
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able to have this conversation with you.
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And I look forward to moving forward on the paperwork that I was working
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on when the storm hit because it's timely, it's important, and it's
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crucial because MKUltra has been on everybody's mind these days, and
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I've got a huge piece of that puzzle.
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Wow.
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Do you wanna share a little bit of it with us?
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Oh I'm, it… I found that people aren't connecting the dots.
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They're not understanding how deep the roots go on it.
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And when MKUltra files were declassified a little over a year ago
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now, and thousands of documents, but obviously there's a lot of important
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ones that weren't declassified.
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My case is still under National Security.
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I've got National Security.
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If people try to get Freedom of Information on me and and Transformation
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of America, they, they'll- They'll find national security is still on it.
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So obviously there's a lot that still needs to be revealed
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for people to understand.
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Which may be why the MKUltra hearings were canceled May 13th or postponed-
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Yeah … and and why all those documents were taken from Tulsi Gabbard's office.
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CIA's obviously scared people are gonna find out the truth.
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Wow.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah.
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And that's kinda… you understand all that, of course you and Mark.
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Mark once CIA helped you break free from the trafficking, you and your daughter.
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So he was, he's well informed about, the CIA's patterns and tried to
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expose that- Yeah … along with you, so that's, that's- Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So that, the MKUltra is it's worldwide.
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It's not- … people are like some people have been affected by it."
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No, everyone is affected by MKUltra.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Especially mind control masked as a virus.
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It was unleashed on the global population 2020, gave everyone a
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taste of mind control right there.
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They all fell for the most basic form of mind control,
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the repetitive media narrative.
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Mask up, social distance, get the injection.
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How many times did we hear that?
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That programs the subconscious, and when the conscious mind is distracted
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with trauma or perceived trauma, then that leaves people suggestible
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to that repetitive narrative.
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The more people know, the more they'll see how we're being manipulated and
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be able to stop that manipulation.
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Yeah, and that, that repetitiveness like you talk about, that happens quite often.
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And how is it that, people can't see through that?
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It's like it gets re- repeated over and over again.
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It's just and then people accept it as fact.
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And they've been conditioned for generations to look outside themselves
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to authority and not research further because that's just part of the
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multi-generational aspect of MKUltra.
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And I find that the w- I make comments and I see what people are saying,
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and they don't understand that this has been going on since we imported
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the Nazi and fascist scientists into the US with Project Paperclip- … in
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the wake of World War II.
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That's a long time, and they've been using multi-generational MKUltra mind
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control Project Monarch, Subproject Monarch to manipulate the generations
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into slow compliance over time.
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That's why it's a 100-year plan that is supposed to conclude with the Agenda 2030.
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But- … who, who knows?
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Mind control never seems to go away, no matter how many
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times they say that it has.
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It hasn't.
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It's only expanded.
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It continues to expand and accelerate and advance technologically
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Yeah and we saw so many cases where they used that.
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2020 the most secure election in history.
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Of course it wasn't.
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The vaccination is safe, you won't get it if you get vaccinated.
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And then everybody did, and a lot of people are still suffering from that.
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Yeah.
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And a lot of people are no longer with us because of that.
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So that's one of the things that you'd think people would wake up to it.
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Now you're writing this report.
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There was supposed to be a congressional hearing on all this.
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It got canceled.
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Wow.
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Just not too long ago.
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It's what, about a month back they were supposed to do it, right?
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Yeah, it's about a month ago now.
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Yeah.
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The, yeah, and all that was postponed, and the need for the
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information is stronger than ever.
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Yeah.
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The hearings have got to happen so people understand how they're
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being manipulated and how trauma is being used to manipulate.
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And I have so many pieces of that puzzle.
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Like at this point, there's so many people that have been affected by the corruption
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in Child Protective Services- Yeah
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realizing that CPS is really part of the trafficking pipeline.
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And the evidence is overwhelming on it.
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And so many people are affected.
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They're like, "Okay, what can we do to avoid that?" So
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there's things people can do.
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Most of all, number one, be aware.
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Know how this system was structured, and that we can't wait
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on government to fix it for us.
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Thank
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you … it's up to us.
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It's up to us to do it.
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So it's a matter of showing the roots of corruption and providing a solution going
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forward so that people can start being effective in protecting our children.
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Yep.
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And we've seen, I just had a gentleman on Craig Lund wrote Silicon
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Satan and he talked about the…
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Of course, he's been exposed to all of this in the the, in the internet,
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group Silicon Valley and all that.
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Oh.
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He talks about all of that, craziness.
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And so he says there's like a trinity type thing, Hollywood
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political class, and Silicon Valley.
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So all three of those are basically, controlling us, controlling
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our minds, MK Ultra and every, a- and all that kind of stuff.
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Yeah.
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So he's, Go ahead.
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Oh I just emphatically agree.
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Factor education into it too, and ultimately their goal was to align
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us with artificial intelligence and and stop people from thinking.
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Artificial intelligence is not smart.
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It, the, we have to be dumbed down to fit into that, that, that frequency.
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Because w- we, when we have wisdom, when we have the strength of the
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human spirit and the infinite power of love, we have this vastness of
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intuitions and intelligence and wisdom.
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And Mark always said, wisdom out thinks their criminal minds and
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artificial intelligence every time.
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So the, it takes that, what you just described, it takes Hollywood
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and the political landscape, and and big tech and really education
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too in order to dumb people down.
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Our humanity- It's under attack, and we've gotta start protecting
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it because, having been around them Michael, the- these perpetrators aren't
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like us, and they do not like us.
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They're low vibration, dark negative energy force that feeds off of low
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vibration, dark negative energy.
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That they feed off of fear and trauma, division and hatred.
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And they literally feed off of trauma with the adrenochrome and all like that.
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And we've got to understand that their greatest fear is the strength of the human
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spirit and the infinite power of love.
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That's a high vibration.
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It's such a high vibration, can't reach it.
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That would be like darkness creeping in on light.
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It can't happen.
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And they fear that because they know it's our divine victory.
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It's our innate victory.
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It's what we have within us, where we are born with that victory, and
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it scares them because they know our wisdom without think, their artificial
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intelligence and criminal minds.
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They can't reach that high vibration.
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S- the only thing they can do is use traumatic mind control
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to use that to, to dumb us down.
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'Cause I know from my life's experience, without free
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thought, there's no free will.
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Without free will and soul expression, we lose our discernment of truth, our
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ability for compassion for each other, our ability to go within and align with
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that divine and gather that strength of spirit and ultimately really live our
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life's purpose and and claim our victory.
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So that's why mind control is being used on a global scale.
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This is an assault on our humanity.
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And in that regard, mind control is a spiritual warfare.
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It's one where we've got the victory, but people have to remember that.
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They gotta be able to think to go within and, and realign with that divine
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within, which is why I just wrote my most recent book, Align with the Divine,
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because that's our victory space.
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That's, we all need to do that.
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We all need to remember who we are and why we're here.
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Yeah.
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Claiming
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victory.
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That, that, that's a great book.
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I downloaded that and I've been listening to it.
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Very good.
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Very nice.
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We think so much alike on the love and, connecting with that
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divine source and everything.
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So very beautifully done.
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Now we look at I- I never even thought about all of them
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combined like that, Cathy.
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You just awakened me to that.
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It's like I w- I would think about the political system being separate,
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coming at us and, dumbing us down, but they're all combined working together.
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Yeah.
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Oh, God, it makes so much sense.
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Duh.
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Brilliant.
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Now Epstein, right?
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I talked to this gentleman Craig London.
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He's, he says Epstein is just that's a distraction.
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Yes.
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There's so many more of those out there- yes
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Yeah.
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And they've been around m- forever, m- and my whole lifetime.
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So I'm looking at all of that and realizing, that it will help for
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people to understand how MKUltra has infiltrated into everything,
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and has affected our politics.
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It's big tech.
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It is Hollywood.
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It's all these components and aspects of it.
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Because when people s- can connect the dot, they'll start to realize, oh, it's
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just this one thing, and all we need to do is remember who we are and why we're here.
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So it's so spiritually evolutionary.
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And I'm e- I'm so excited to get to be part of this aspect of solutions.
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And that's what I was working on so hard when yeah when the tornado hit.
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And, things have just been its own whirlwind ever since.
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I- it's- and that's so crazy that you d- had no warning, and it just-
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None
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bang, and it hit.
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It's almost like you were targeted.
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It's like you've probably been targeted so many times.
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It is very strange, because my neighbors just down the driveway
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didn't even have a leaf in their yard.
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Nobody… A, a couple- Wow … a couple of of campers got damaged at
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the resort across the street, and aside from that we took the whole thing.
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We took the whole thing.
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It's so hard.
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I'm so pleased that this house that Mark and I, built up,
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m- that it's still standing.
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Yeah.
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It's got a lot of damage, but it's standing.
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Mark's sacred library, and the museum pieces in this house, they're all secure.
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Of course, we got the tarp on the roof and all that keeping it secured.
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But to me, i- everything that counts is… it's like it's okay.
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Everything else can be rebuilt.
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Michael, the other thing that really breaks my heart is all those
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trees, and all the- … nature that was damaged in this process.
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Because- … my yard is a sanctuary for wildlife, and and now it's just a
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giant heap of busted, twisted trees.
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And, … and so many, I mean- I've never seen anything like it.
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And we'll need to replant.
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And it's one thing just trying to be able to get funds raised to fix the roof
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and, it's so difficult in that regard and it's oh man, if only there was
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enough to plant some trees back, and-
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Yeah
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… and take care of take care of the nature and the wildlife and that
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beauty that beautiful aspect too.
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That's that's hard to see every day.
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Lot of- Yeah … sunlight coming in this house.
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Yeah, all the trees were taken down.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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That's so amazing.
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That was … You get targeted like that.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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I've not … I'm … whether it was or wasn't, it's- Yeah … abstractly weird.
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Didn't have anything that I know of with the rotation.
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My daughter Kelly was standing out on the front porch and had
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no clue it was, anything was happening aside from rain coming on.
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Yeah.
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And then she saw what looked like a tornado drop down
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right out in our field here.
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But she said the rotation was backwards from what any tornado she ever saw,
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and the reports, there's just the, like ho-hum a storm, but it was no
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question about it, like a tornado.
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And yet all the trees, on all sides of the house all fell towards
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the house as though they were, d- you know, sucked this direction.
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I don't know what kind of weather phenomena that would be.
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It's abstract and I don't understand it, and I just feel real fortunate
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that that nobody was hurt.
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We … It, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yep, glad I'm glad that no one was hurt.
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But yeah what a crazy storm.
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Yeah
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… and we know that- Yeah … these crazies can use weather and earthquakes
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and all that kind of stuff, so you're- Oh, yeah … you're trying
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to get the MKUltra stuff out, and they sh- Yeah … they stopped it.
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They shut it down.
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Why did they get… What was the reason for not doing that, that,
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that congressional investigation?
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Th- threats, fear.
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I don't know.
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Some- it- nothing I would cave into.
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Yeah
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that it should have gone forward.
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But we need to be mindful that anybody that they have present information is
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a genuine survivor and not one that's being paid, because there's a lot
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of survivors being paid to point the finger in directions that don't belong.
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Like the media does with the Epstein thing.
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As soon as we start to see perpetrators, they go fall
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back on their Trump Derangement Syndrome and go, "Look at Trump.
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Look at Trump," and the survivors are saying "It's not Trump," but any
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of them that are s- that, that know that or say that, are are silent.
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We need the full truth out there.
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We need to get to the bottom of all this, and ultimately we need to uproot
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the whole thing so the swamp will drain
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yeah, so it could be because I'm looking at it.
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It says Re- Representative Anna Paulina Luna-
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Yeah
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… was said the task the task force on the declassification of federal secrets,
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a sub-panel of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee will
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hold a hearing next month, and this was in April, so you're right- Yeah
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into the controversial MKUltra program.
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So I guess the disappearance of those files from Tulsi Gabbard's
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office is the reason why they said that they had to, postpone it.
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Yeah.
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And then- Wow … the some Kennedy files disappeared too.
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And of course the Kennedy assassination is when the perpetrators took over
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our, so much of our nation anyway.
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Yeah.
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That's definitely part of my experience in MKUltra because Gerald Ford was
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responsible for my victimization, and he's the one who covered up the Kennedy
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assassination with the Warren Commission and then, you know- … was rewarded
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with the presidency for having done so.
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And at that point they really took over strong, put in the
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electronic voting machines, that were rigged since their inception.
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You look at Ford's cabinet, we've been through that before, and
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it's- … it's the same old players.
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And it's it's such a pivotal time that it's interesting that the
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MKUltra files and the, and Kennedy files were taken from that office.
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And how s- how odd, how many coincidences does it take to make a fact?
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How odd that that Tulsi Gabbard resigned right after
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Yeah.
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So wh- what are your thoughts on that?
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I've heard from different sources that she may have been involved in some way.
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Do you know anything about that?
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I don't know anything about that whatsoever.
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I don't.
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My, my concern, instead of trying to sift through the kaleidoscope of change
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and illusion, and f- that- … I s- stick right to the f- the reality.
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We gotta get the information out there.
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People need to start connecting the dots, realize it's all interconnected.
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MKUltra is the common thread weaving through all of this corruption, this
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mess, what's happening with our children.
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We've gotta understand that.
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And so this information is pertinent.
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Knowledge is our defense against it.
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Censorship has been extensive, and it, thank God for people like you
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getting truth out there so that people at least have some place
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to go where they can get pertinent information that's genuinely applicable
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to what in the world is going on.
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Excellent.
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So you obviously have a lot of information.
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They could probably just bring you in whatever those files were.
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They're probably relevant.
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They would probably give some good background, and, confirmation
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and so forth, but don't you have tremendous amounts of information
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that you could share, and they could just do the whole study on you?
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That, I have a lot of information, and there's other amazing survivors
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out there that are coming up- Sure … with huge pieces of the puzzle.
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And it all needs to be heard, and I've been saying it for over 35
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years, so silencing me now is stupid.
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I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna stop or be stopped, i'm gonna
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get- … the information out there.
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This I look forward to getting this this tornado bit behind so that I can move
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forward and resume what I was doing, because I'm extremely excited about what
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I had on my plate and where I was headed before this, momentarily derailed things.
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Have they given you any any insight on when it might be started up again?
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None.
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I haven't heard a thing No.
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N- there's, and it's like crickets in DC about the confiscated files, yeah.
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W- why isn't that… I don't really know, but it seems treasonous to violate
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presidential order like that and do that.
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It, I d- I don't know.
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I don't understand how that can just be,
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Yeah.
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I'm looking-
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… swept under a rug
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… looking forward to seeing what Wine's thoughts on that are.
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I'll see him in a couple days that's definitely one of my questions.
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Yeah.
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Oh I had h- I had hoped to be at that event, and, Oh, it'd
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be
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great
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and knowing you're gonna be there, all the more reason I wish.
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Yeah, we haven't met in person yet, so that, that'll be great to… No, we have.
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We saw- yeah.
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Yeah, briefly … you actually in Ohio, didn't we?
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That's right.
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That's right.
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Briefly.
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And-
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I, yeah … well- I definitely want more, though
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… that's right.
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Yep.
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Amazing.
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And I know you and Tracy hit it off really well, too, so that's fantastic.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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And and a lot of other people, Lynn Hagerman that I work with, and she,
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connected with you really well.
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Is she gonna be there?
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I don't think she's gonna be at this, this-
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Oh, wow.
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I was gonna say, oh my gosh, yeah.
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Yeah, she's another one of those those survivors that, that needs-
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Yeah … needs her voice, her piece of the puzzle absolutely heard.
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Yeah.
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She's amazing.
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I think the world of her, and,
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Oh, that's beautiful.
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She'll love that … yeah,
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love her dearly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So the, you've been involved in this circle, you've seen
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these people for, what, 30 years you were involved or longer?
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Yeah, the f- the first 30 years I was exposed to the top.
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And I was thinking how I was used to deliver messages to and
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from- Ah … government leaders because of the way the brain works.
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It photographically records events surrounding trauma.
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So when trauma, when you're in traumatized state the brain's on photographic record.
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Yeah.
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They use that for delivering messages- … and, accessing them and everything else.
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So they know the brain works that way.
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But these i- perpetrators would stand around talking in front of me all the
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time while I'm in a traumatized state.
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Of course, they thought I was gonna be killed like so many before me
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at Bohemia Grove when I turned age 30, and their secrets would die
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with me, but that didn't happen.
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And so I've got all this photographic recall of their plans, what they
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had what they had in mind, seeing what they intended to have unfolding
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versus what's actually unfolding.
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But it, it gave me a lot of insight into their infiltrations into so
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many aspects of our society and the plans in, in that regard.
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My testimony is definitely extensive.
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It's more than is just in Transformation of America.
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That was the 1995 testimony for Congress, that was condensed into a book form
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real quick so it could be released to all members of Congress, so they
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would have the information anyway.
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It's there.
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But there's a lot more pieces of the puzzle that need to be brought forward
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Yeah, so the, their plan.
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So you've mentioned their plans are not quite happening the
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way they thought they would.
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What have you seen that's been disrupted?
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The main thing was that so many of us were awake and aware in 2016.
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That the sheer numbers of us overrode the rigged electronic
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algorithm in the voting machine.
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Nobody saw that coming.
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People did not want Hillary Clinton in the New World Order.
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And we ended up with President Trump, who started showing us the swamp and,
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you know- … and the, what the deep state, the globalist agenda's about.
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And so that was a huge turning point.
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They never saw that coming.
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Hillary Clinton was supposed to be in.
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That was the structure.
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They were already losing control though b- they, it was supposed to
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stay in the Bush/Clinton dynasties until Hillary ushered it in.
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But they had to slip Obama in there for a while because they had lost
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a lot of control, and they had to manipulate things around a bit.
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It obviously, took its toll in a lot of ways, but these are things
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I've seen that aren't working.
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And now I'm seeing where people, again, knowledge is our
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defense against mind control.
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And the knowledge gained 2020 with mind control masked as a virus gave people
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a lot of insight into saying, "No, I am not gonna comply with big pharma.
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I'm not gonna cave into fear.
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I'm not gonna mask up.
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I'm not gonna get more injections." People are getting it.
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They're thinking and seeing.
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But I think, what we need now more than anything is to see some justice,
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to, a- against these perpetrators.
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We know who they are.
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Our justice system just, is- isn't working.
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And but we all need to see justice.
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It's like when I started remembering what I'd done under mind control and I couldn't
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deal with it, Mark told me that we're not responsible, that I'm not responsible
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for what I did under mind control, that my abusers are responsible for that, and
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they need to be held accountable for that.
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But now that I'm aware, I am responsible for all my actions going forward.
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That was such a huge turning point for me of realizing, okay,
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everything I do is gonna be true to soul out of love for humanity.
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I'm gonna, I'm gonna choose my own path.
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It was just a huge turning point.
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And really, everybody on a global scale needs to see that because they realize
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mind control masters of virus had programmed it to do the unthinkable,
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and they're seeing the results of that.
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And many people are grieving, and they feel guilty and everything
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else, and they re- they need to see those responsible for that locked up.
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And yet, you know-
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Here we are, just sitting in the same place without seeing any justice.
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No justice in the Epstein files.
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Nobody locked up for raping children.
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No, no justice.
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I, it blows my mind that the Clintons are still walking free when everybody
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everywhere knows they, they've, they b- were, have been guilty for generations.
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And the evidence has been right there for a long time.
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We need to see some justice.
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Yeah, definitely.
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And some of that justice comes about through prayer.
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And your book Align with the Divine definitely is helping people see that.
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Every show that we talk about the power of love.
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And I think it's making an impact.
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It seems things are breaking down.
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Not the, not at the pace and at the rate that we would like to see them, not at the
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rest cycle we would like to see happen.
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But it seems to be having some impact.
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What are your thoughts?
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Oh, yeah.
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I absolutely love that.
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It's like there's a mental and spiritual evolution that's happening- … with
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or without justice, with or without the government- … whether
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without big tech or the media validating that, that reality.
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Because it's an individual journey, and people are going within.
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They're reconnecting with their true nature and remembering who
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they are and why they're here.
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That's… It, ultimately that's where our victory is.
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That is what people are moving into.
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I'm just, I'm confident in humanity.
28:42
I'm confident in the strength of the human spirit.
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And I'm excited to see other people waking up to embrace it.
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Yeah.
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It's definitely beautiful.
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And there's good comments, that are coming through.
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Got, some good views going on, so this will probably get good views
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and spread like we like to see it.
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It needs to continue.
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Even though, we, do what we can, sometimes we're attacked like you just said.
29:08
I think that when I saw that your, you had a this storm that hit, I
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was like, "Ah, she got targeted."
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That's the first thing that came to me.
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And and now that I'm hearing there was almost nothing else that was, hit other
29:21
than your house on the level that, that was hit, I'm like, "Ah, it's-" crazy.
29:26
It's frustrating, and we do our best to help each other out.
29:29
So I hope people will help contribute to helping you get your house and you…
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maybe your tree's back, hopefully.
29:35
We can't say maybe- Oh, yeah … definitely those trees should come back.
29:38
So get some planning done.
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Wow.
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It's, Now, how long have you lived there?
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Mark rescued you and your daughter and brought all your
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farm animals and everything.
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Was that the place where you guys went?
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It's, we went here soon after.
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We lived here since Trance came out, like in 19- since from 1996.
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Okay.
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It's been, I've been in this beautiful place for 30 years.
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All the years that Mark and I were in it we were building it up because it
30:10
was in extreme disrepair, back then, and we built it with love and all
30:16
of Mark's MacGyvering capabilities that he could do which is extensive.
30:21
And I'll tell you, it, it made it strong enough to withstand that blast
30:25
and- … the damage to the roof and the places that were damaged so horrifically.
30:31
Definitely, can be repaired, need to be repaired, and I'm just gonna be happy to
30:38
be able to move past this difficult time.
30:42
And I'm so very grateful to all the people who have reached out, the people
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who care, all the love, all the prayers.
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It's just been, It's just been so beautiful.
30:53
And they're helping out with the GoFundMe, getting that information out that we
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need help is difficult, but yet people are sharing it and doing what they can.
31:05
I deeply appreciate that, and I appreciate you and your kind care and compassion and
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ability to get the word out there too.
31:13
Thank you so much for that.
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Hopefully it'll make a big enough difference to get through this curve fast.
31:22
Yeah.
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And, since I since I gifted, just a little while ago the numbers are
31:26
up nicely, so you know, the word's getting out there, so hopefully
31:30
people, get you to where you need.
31:32
There's quite a d- quite a lot of devastation you can see in the pic-
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in the pictures it'll come back.
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Yeah.
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Yeah
31:40
You've given a lot to humanity.
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You deserve to have some support.
31:43
So I think people- Oh,
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that is sweet.
31:46
That is so sweet.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Definitely have.
31:49
Even you're still working to help humanity with the MKUltra
31:53
stuff, and that's a huge reveal.
31:55
Once that really breaks out and people see how politicians and so
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forth have been manipulated, and not just politicians, like we're talking
32:03
about the big tech and Hollywood.
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Yeah.
32:06
All, the whole c- And the educational system.
32:09
We could go on and on.
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The the military system.
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Every- All it's all been infiltrated through this
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MKUltra- … mind control program.
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And of course, the CIA, FBI.
32:20
So all these different groups are just riddled.
32:23
And so that's probably why they're, going out of the way to make sure it
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doesn't these, hearings don't happen.
32:30
I guess so.
32:31
There's so many, there's so many survivors emerging now.
32:35
There, there's so many that have been affected, but now they are
32:38
actually daring to come forward.
32:41
They're like, "Oh, I'm not the only one. Okay." And i- it's
32:43
very- Yeah … helpful to them.
32:45
And they'll reach out to me for a very crucial healing tip that just
32:51
makes all the difference for them.
32:52
And their needs have not gone away with this tornado, the, it, the,
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it, the, it's all still there, and it's just as intensive as ever.
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And I wanna be there for everybody.
33:04
It's my power's only been back on for a couple days.
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It's been real intermittent.
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It's been, difficult for over, well over a week.
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For about two weeks.
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Yeah.
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And I'm glad to, have the power back on so I can have the
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communication- … and actually be able to effectively help people.
33:23
There's a lot of them that have had to wait till I could get back, and
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a lot of people don't have time.
33:30
A lot of the survivors don't have that time
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Yeah
33:33
I'm looking forward to catching up.
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Very good.
33:37
And I was … I got turned on to Kay Griggs many years ago.
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She, she un- unveiled MKUltra mind control- Yeah … operations as well.
33:47
And she said they were part of a organized crime out of New York and New
33:51
Jersey, and they were, had infiltrated military military infil- personnel.
33:57
There was, drug trafficking and human trafficking and all that
34:01
stuff going on through the military.
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We've heard those stories over time.
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Have you do you know Kay Griggs or any, know any of her story?
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I know of her.
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Yeah.
34:11
And I knew that that she was among the first to emerge.
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Is she still speaking out?
34:16
Is she still out there?
34:18
She went she went on the down low for a while.
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And she popped up and did a show, and I haven't heard from her again.
34:24
Wh- when was… Let me see if I can… The last show I think she
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did was last year, March 15th.
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Wow.
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She kinda popped up and did a show.
34:35
Very secretive.
34:37
She met with a guy at a place and they talked, and I don't even
34:41
think they sh- even showed her.
34:43
It was just her voice, and she talked about, how she'd been laying low and
34:47
but she was reve- r- she revealed again.
34:49
So it was very interesting.
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Yeah.
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So many that came out that early didn't survive, and she
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was one of very few who did.
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Yeah.
34:58
And I'm I w- I was always encouraged to know she was out there, and-
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Good
35:02
… and then that, just
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like you say, we… I think of other people that have inspired me to speak out.
35:08
And I think we just keep each other moving.
35:10
We help other people out there that are, watching us that there is a
35:14
possibility that we can take down the system if we work together-
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Yeah
35:18
and work through, love and, connection to source and so forth.
35:21
Absolutely.
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That's what's gonna make the difference is people uniting and making the
35:26
that, that kind of difference.
35:27
I don't know how much of the corruption can actually be cleaned up.
35:31
I'm kinda thinking that it, the best thing we can do is just step over here and-
35:36
Yeah
35:37
And restructure.
35:38
People helping people.
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It's always the best way.
35:41
Healing from any level of trauma is within us by divine design, and we just
35:47
need to remember that and apply it.
35:49
Above all, survivors need a safe place to be, and then they can heal.
35:54
It's just the way that we're made.
35:56
But that safe place is not the system that's been structured.
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It's not Child Protective Services.
36:03
It's not the law enforcement justice system that we got right now.
36:08
It's, it's- Yeah … it's people helping people.
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That's where the safety is.
36:13
And they open up their homes and their hearts to help others, and
36:18
ultimately, I, that's- That's the way society should be anyway.
36:24
Yeah.
36:25
It should be.
36:26
And we've seen a lot of people that have come out that haven't,
36:29
like we talked about, survived.
36:31
The Epstein, people that came out, and Virginia Guthrie.
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She came out and just blew it all open, and then now she's gone.
36:40
It's wow.
36:41
It's like they keep sending messages to people that- Yeah … would speak
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out and talk, not to do it or else.
36:47
How many others?
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It's very disturbing.
36:49
I look at that trend that, that happens in that regard, Yeah … it, it seems like,
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good people get locked up as an example.
36:57
The January Sixers, and it seems Tina Peters.
37:01
The wh- that, that is such an outrage.
37:04
And it's like saying, "Okay, if you stand up for truth, if you stand up
37:08
for freedom, this is gonna happen to you." And it- they just need one
37:13
hard example that stays in the media eye, and it scares a lot of people.
37:18
Ultimately, we gotta get over the fear, get past the fear, and realize
37:23
that they can't lock us all up.
37:25
They can't shut us all up.
37:26
They can't shut us down.
37:28
Obviously not.
37:29
We're stronger than ever.
37:32
More of us awake and aware than ever before.
37:35
… And it's our time to realize we are by far the majority.
37:39
It's absolutely inexcusable that we let this handful of low-vibration,
37:45
dark, negative energy force perpetrators manipulate our
37:50
brilliant minds and lives anymore.
37:52
It's our time to shine.
37:53
We're all together.
37:54
We'll, we can shine our light so bright that not only do we expose what's
37:58
going on in their darkness, but we can eradicate their darkness once and for all.
38:04
It's our victory.
38:05
We know that we have that victory.
38:07
We just need to claim it and unite and start living the love we are
38:12
and sharing it with each other.
38:15
Yeah.
38:16
So we're seeing the Belfast, Ireland.
38:18
They're starting to push back on the the government corruption and so forth.
38:22
It's I look at that as it's- It's yes, finally.
38:25
People are standing up and it's gotta… It, unfortunately it seems like it's
38:30
gotta come to this where people really have to, stand up and, push back on this.
38:35
I think it's gonna start to go out.
38:37
I think they're gonna try everything that they can to stop this in Belfast.
38:41
They could come down hard on the Irish, but the Irish are fighters, so if-
38:46
Yeah … if any place that it could have started, that's probably the best place.
38:49
So-
38:49
Yeah.
38:49
And I hope it spreads.
38:51
I hope it spreads around the world 'cause they, that's might
38:54
be the only way we take them down.
38:57
I if it is, what… We gotta protect our children.
39:00
Yeah.
39:01
And our
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women.
39:01
They
39:04
are trafficking- L- look, look, just- … and harvesting
39:05
our children … the demographics, like it's insane.
39:06
Men should stand up and protect the women.
39:08
This is the way life is.
39:10
Through- Yeah
39:11
education, politics, movies and so forth, they've internet,
39:15
they've, dumbed down the men.
39:17
Yeah.
39:17
And men have to stand up and really get aggressive here, like Mark did
39:21
with you guys and got you out of there.
39:23
So it was, that was a beautiful… And here we have you, and we can thank
39:28
Mark for that 'cause he stood up- Yeah
39:30
against all odds- Yeah … and made that happen
39:34
Yeah, he did.
39:35
We all can make a difference right where we are- … and and take that stand.
39:39
We've gotta understand that the enemy only has as much power as
39:44
we give them or let them steal.
39:46
We've got the capacity to overcome this we've just gotta do it
39:51
and know what we're up against.
39:53
It's like awareness is the first step.
39:56
And that truth empowers people to effectively, take down this mess,
40:03
to take down that, that enemy.
40:06
But we gotta get the truth out there.
40:08
That's its, that's a challenge.
40:11
Definitely.
40:12
And so people can find you on trance-formation.com?
40:18
Yes.
40:18
Always my website T-R-A-N-C-E hyphen formation.com.
40:24
Of course, all my books are on Audible.
40:26
I read them myself to preserve the integrity of information.
40:30
Great.
40:31
'Cause there's… Yeah.
40:32
So they're that way too.
40:33
But I've secured the information on my website.
40:37
I post my podcasts and everything else there too.
40:41
I've got The Healing Trilogy now.
40:43
Three books for healing that's really helping survivors a lot.
40:48
I'm so excited about that.
40:50
Not only helping them heal, but to move forward, because they forget that part.
40:55
They, they get so ingrained in that that, that victim mentality,
41:00
Yeah
41:01
… mode that it's time to move beyond that.
41:03
And it, it's easy to do when we align with the divine and allow animals and nature
41:08
to show us the way back to our nature.
41:12
And it's- yeah.
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Yeah.
41:14
Fantastic.
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So yeah, it's always a pleasure, honor to have you on, Cathy.
41:19
And I, still encourage everybody to help Cath- Oh, wow.
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It just jumped big time thanks everybody that's donating.
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Oh.
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That, that really makes a difference.
41:26
Hopefully we can get you to the point where you get your house
41:29
back to the way it was and get some nice trees planted again.
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Yeah.
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Lots of love to you, Cathy.
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And then thank you so much for all you do for humanity.
41:38
Thank you.
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I appreciate you so much.
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So much.