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Jorge Posada feeling unwelcome in the Bronx? How teams handle vets, Yankees prospect Core Jackson joins · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.
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  Speaker 3: It's presented by Lorraine Co. This one came in hot
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  Speaker 3: during the Mist of the World series. Joel Sherman and
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  Speaker 3: John Heyman had Jorge Posada on their show. And Posada
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  Speaker 3: doesn't feel welcome with the Yanks. He said, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think they want me there. And this is actually one
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  Speaker 3: of many around baseball veterans who sometimes don't feel welcome.
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  Speaker 2: With their old crew. So he's one of them.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes he has disagreed with Yankee decisions.
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  Speaker 2: Get in line.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if a team that's had a ton of
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  Speaker 3: winning hasn't won in a long time, I think that's
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  Speaker 3: pretty normal to speak your mind and say, Hey, I
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  Speaker 3: wish they did things a little bit differently.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's pretty fair. So I'm not surprised to
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  Speaker 2: see this.
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  Speaker 3: I think it opens up a bigger discussion, AJ, of
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  Speaker 3: how some teams are incredible with their former players with
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  Speaker 3: their highly, like their esteemed former players too, right? Like
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  Speaker 3: Jorge Posada ain't Yankees fifth outfielder from, you know, 2012.
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  Speaker 3: Like this is a big deal part of the organization.
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  Speaker 3: And you were too with the White Sox.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Jorge Posada, I'm not even going to compare myself
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  Speaker 5: to Jorge Posada. He has more rings. He was probably,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, a better player and should have got more
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  Speaker 5: Hall of Fame at, you know, more Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 5: consideration than he did. He was on the ballot for
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  Speaker 5: one year, which is a complete joke. If you haven't
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  Speaker 5: looked up Jorge Posada's numbers, kids, check him out. He
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  Speaker 5: was pretty damn good. Here's the thing about this. Listen,
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  Speaker 5: as somebody that went through this on a team that
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  Speaker 5: I know well and still know a lot of people there,
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  Speaker 5: I was getting paid by the team, okay, as a
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  Speaker 5: fan ambassador. I did my stuff for the fans, but
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  Speaker 5: then I had this show, and I'm on this show
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  Speaker 5: to give my opinion of what I think.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't love that.
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  Speaker 6: Fine, fair.
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  Speaker 1: Jorge, I don't believe, works for the White Yankees. As
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  Speaker 1: he said, they don't want him there.
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  Speaker 5: He's just out there doing his thing. If he sees
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  Speaker 5: something that he doesn't like and he gives his opinion,
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  Speaker 5: then maybe there are teams out there, and I'm not
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  Speaker 5: just calling out the Yankees, I'm calling out all the teams,
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  Speaker 5: that you should listen to. There's a reason why teams
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  Speaker 5: hire former players to come back as special assistants to
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  Speaker 5: the GM, special assistant to the owner, special assistant to
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  Speaker 5: whatever you have to do.
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  Speaker 1: Because they have opinions that you.
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  Speaker 5: Might want to listen to by just saying, oh, dismissing
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  Speaker 5: them and saying, oh, what are you talking about? What
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  Speaker 5: are you talking about? I don't know that it sends
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  Speaker 5: the best message. Again, maybe I'm not the right person
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  Speaker 5: to say this about teams because, again, I went through this.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't understand why teams don't want to use
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  Speaker 5: the resources they have when guys are willing to give
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  Speaker 5: their time, energy, and effort to teams to try to
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  Speaker 5: help the organization that they care about get better.
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  Speaker 6: I think there's three buckets of ex-players. no matter what
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  Speaker 6: your status is. AJ Brzezinski, fringe Hall of Famer, Eric Kratz,
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  Speaker 6: complete backup catcher. There's buckets of players that when they're done,
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  Speaker 6: they think, well, I should be able to do whatever
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  Speaker 6: I want. I should be able to work for every
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  Speaker 6: team and give my advice and everybody should listen. Then
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  Speaker 6: there's the bucket of players who are like, I could
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  Speaker 6: care less. I don't want to have anything to do
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  Speaker 6: with baseball. And then there's the bucket of players that
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  Speaker 6: want to help And I think truly those dudes nine
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  Speaker 6: times out of 10 get jobs doing something that the
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  Speaker 6: organization feels like they add value to. If the organizations
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  Speaker 6: feel like they have, you know, they, they, they just
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  Speaker 6: get a feeling or they're like, Oh yeah, I can't
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  Speaker 6: believe he said that. Like, then I think you're missing
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  Speaker 6: out on something that maybe Jorge Posada could have helped
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  Speaker 6: you with. You look at the Dodgers, I've texted, I
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  Speaker 6: don't know, just in the last week and a half,
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  Speaker 6: I've texted five of my teammates that I didn't even
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  Speaker 6: know were still working for the Dodgers. Like, they're just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I do this, I pop in here or there. Why? Because,
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  Speaker 6: and two of them never even played for the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 6: But they do it because they want their prospects, their players,
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  Speaker 6: whatever it is, their coaches to hear from people that
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  Speaker 6: went through those situations. And I think some organizations say,
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  Speaker 6: I don't like what you said about me. I don't
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  Speaker 6: think what you're doing is right. So we're going to
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  Speaker 6: go away. I'm not saying they're all wrong, but I'm
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  Speaker 6: definitely saying that some of these guys should have jobs
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  Speaker 6: and are very, very helpful to the organization if they
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  Speaker 6: have a job in something.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to break it down from a different perspective.
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  Speaker 2: Two buckets for me.
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  Speaker 3: If you're in the bucket of someone who speaks their mind,
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  Speaker 3: you should have freedom of speech about the sport. You
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  Speaker 3: played the sport. You're not sitting there having to say
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  Speaker 3: whatever a team wants, right? You're not taking personal shots.
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  Speaker 3: That shouldn't make you banished from the organization. That's one
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  Speaker 3: side where I think teams completely miss the mark. Some teams,
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  Speaker 3: some thrive with it, some struggle with it, right? Here's
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  Speaker 3: the other part. where I'm going to defend certain teams
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  Speaker 3: and organizations. You might have a strategy, even if it's
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  Speaker 3: not the right strategy. There are guys that could come
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  Speaker 3: in and try to blow up that strategy or tell
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  Speaker 3: a player something else. And then there are conflicting tips, right?
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  Speaker 3: And it's, here's a good example, AJ, because I know
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  Speaker 3: this is a real example. It's been written about, and
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  Speaker 3: there was even more going on behind the scenes. I
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  Speaker 3: heard the angels pitching program was very, very behind, right?
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  Speaker 3: They were one of those teams where it's like, whoa,
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  Speaker 3: You go somewhere else and you're like, damn, this team's
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  Speaker 3: giving me information I had no idea. And we're still
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  Speaker 3: seeing this even with Freddy Peralta going from the Mets
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  Speaker 3: to the Raiders. Part of that was veterans getting involved
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  Speaker 3: with Artie Moreno and being like, we don't need any
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  Speaker 3: of this crap.
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  Speaker 2: Just throw.
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  Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: That's not how this works anymore. There are way too
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  Speaker 3: many edges technology-wise, pitch mix, pitch shape. We can go
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  Speaker 3: down the line in how the game is advanced that way.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have that.
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  Speaker 3: If they're changing the way the organization is giving advice
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  Speaker 3: to pitchers and it's holding them back compared to the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the organizations, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Do you agree?
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  Speaker 7: 100%.
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  Speaker 5: But we're not talking about a guy who's giving advice.
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  Speaker 5: He's just trying to give an opinion in Jorge Posada
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  Speaker 5: about an organization that he cares about.
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  Speaker 1: He's not going individually.
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  Speaker 5: Now, if you're going individually to players and you're having
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  Speaker 5: conversations without the organization's okay, that's not right. But if
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  Speaker 5: you're just trying to give broad strokes about an organization
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  Speaker 5: that you played for and care about, I don't have
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  Speaker 5: a problem with this at all. It's if you go
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  Speaker 5: to individuals, that's where it gets.
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  Speaker 6: Wonky for me. I don't know what exactly is going
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  Speaker 6: down with Jorge, but when I look at the overall
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  Speaker 6: broad picture of things, I haven't seen Jeter around with
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  Speaker 6: the Yankees either.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what went on there. Are Jorge and Jeter–
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  Speaker 5: still best friends? And if so, maybe some of the
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  Speaker 5: things that... Being on this show, I sometimes have gotten
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  Speaker 5: lumped in with things that AJ says. Things that I say,
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  Speaker 5: AJ gets lumped in to those things. Well, you're on
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  Speaker 5: the show, so you said this kind of thing. And
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  Speaker 5: I think being able to smooth those over sometimes or
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  Speaker 5: explain myself. But I don't think Jeter's come back to
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  Speaker 5: a single Legends game. I haven't seen Jeter do much,
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  Speaker 5: if any, Yankee stuff, and I don't watch it every
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  Speaker 5: single day, and so maybe Jorge's lumped in there, right
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  Speaker 5: or wrong, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I know that part for a fact, too. I think
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  Speaker 3: Jeter was at CeCe's ceremony, but besides that, yeah, Jeter
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  Speaker 3: doesn't do almost anything with them. There could be a
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  Speaker 3: few paid scenarios where the money's worth it and he
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  Speaker 3: gets involved, but he is not very involved. And there's
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  Speaker 3: a clear cut reason for that, right? Our show just
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  Speaker 3: says it like it is him and Cashman had a
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  Speaker 3: little thing about the contract.
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  Speaker 2: And you can go back to it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: When he was playing, I mean, part of it also
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  Speaker 3: does have to do with paying for a player's future,
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  Speaker 3: not a player's past. So there's two sides to that
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  Speaker 3: story too, but it doesn't matter who's right or wrong
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  Speaker 3: on that part. Cause there's probably a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: both there. What really matters is Jeter was pissed and
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  Speaker 3: he's like, well, screw it. I'm not going to help them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do as much with them. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure that's what happened.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's why he's not as involved with the team.
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  Speaker 3: And that's his choice, and that's fine.
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  Speaker 6: He also took some of the staff down to Miami.
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  Speaker 6: Some of the Yankee staff went down with Jeter to Miami.
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  Speaker 6: So I think there's probably some animosity. But that happens everywhere. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: you can't not go and get the guys that you
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  Speaker 6: really liked in your organization, right or wrong. Maybe there's
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  Speaker 6: a right way to handle it. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: but we're kind of going into a different, yeah, kind
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  Speaker 6: of going into a different realm here with Jeter. But
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  Speaker 6: when Posada's part of Jeter, maybe that's where he's lumped
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  Speaker 6: in at.
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  Speaker 2: AJ, what were you going to say?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jeter sent to Yankee Stanton.
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  Speaker 6: So, I mean, he did give him something.
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  Speaker 3: Also, we're going to be mad because he poached a
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  Speaker 3: couple people. Who was the one guy that was like
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  Speaker 3: his right-hand man?
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  Speaker 1: Denbo. Wasn't it Denbo?
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  Speaker 2: Denbo.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Denbo.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, running a team made easy. Derek Jeter was.
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  Speaker 3: The ultimate winner in baseball for a period of time
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  Speaker 3: and then tried to run the Marlins and think he
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  Speaker 3: had the blueprint.
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  Speaker 2: It failed miserably. That's just a fact. That's a different job.
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  Speaker 2: So it didn't work out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: RIP statue.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you on Posada.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like he's kind of innocently getting– I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to say picked on. but getting ignored or not
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  Speaker 3: getting enough love to feel like he should be.
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  Speaker 2: Included when he steps back. But we don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, we could probably bring him on the show in
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  Speaker 3: the off season. I hear we'll have a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of time so we can work on that to get
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more.
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  Speaker 5: It's an absolute shame that we're going to have to,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to have to go through this. I've had
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  Speaker 5: this conversation with numerous people.
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  Speaker 6: It's a shame.
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  Speaker 5: As hot as baseball is, we're going to have to
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  Speaker 5: have all these conversations about the three letters I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to talk about.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Just get ready. Save yourself.
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  Speaker 3: We're a week away from doing that. But let's enjoy
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  Speaker 3: core Jackson joins us right now. He's playing for salt
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  Speaker 3: river out in the Arizona folly core.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for the time, man. How you doing? How is
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  Speaker 2: it out there? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys having me on and I'm having
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  Speaker 4: a great time out here.
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  Speaker 8: Can't complain. I'm enjoying some nice Arizona weather. So, having
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  Speaker 8: a good time.
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  Speaker 2: We like that.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Cora, just to introduce yourself to our audience, can
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  Speaker 3: you start by giving us a little bit of background
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  Speaker 3: as to, you know, how you've gotten to this point
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  Speaker 3: and also how would you describe your game?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I was born and raised in Canada, played high
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  Speaker 8: school baseball in Canada growing up.
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  Speaker 4: Originally went to the University of Nebraska for a year
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  Speaker 4: and then out here to a junior.
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  Speaker 8: College, South Mountain Community College.
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  Speaker 4: I was there for a year and then spent my
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  Speaker 4: last two years at the University of Utah and then
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  Speaker 4: got picked up by the Yankees in the fifth round
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  Speaker 4: and I've been playing with them. I got to double
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  Speaker 4: A this year and I'm out here in the fall league.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to keep going and keep playing well.
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  Speaker 1: Cora, hold on.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, you played in Nebraska? Darren Erstad wasn't still there
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  Speaker 5: as your coach, was he?
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  Speaker 8: No, no, he wasn't there.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, phew, because I was going to say, Ersta, I
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  Speaker 5: missed on you, man. Like, you missed on Schwellenbach and
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  Speaker 5: some other guys. I was like, man, I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: have to call him, reach out to him, and say, Ersta,
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  Speaker 5: what were you doing as a coach in Nebraska if
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  Speaker 5: you let you walk?
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  Speaker 1: So, okay, phew, thank you. That made me smile a
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  Speaker 1: little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Can you describe to people that don't understand about Juco?
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  Speaker 5: Because I saw– what's the big Juco at the World
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  Speaker 5: Series last year?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, Grand Junction.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I saw him at the world series last night, but
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  Speaker 5: can you explain what Juco's like for people before we
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  Speaker 5: get into the fall league and, and how well you're
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  Speaker 5: doing out there and how you're a Yankees prospect, what
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  Speaker 5: Juco's like to most people? Cause most people hear Juco
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  Speaker 5: and they're like, ah, what a waste of time. It's
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  Speaker 5: never going to work for me. And then you see Ms. Juco, right? Ashby,
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  Speaker 5: Juco guys. And then here you are on our show
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  Speaker 5: talking as a guy that came from Juco.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. I think Juco really just like, well, I'll start
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  Speaker 8: off with this.
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  Speaker 4: I want, Obviously, the rest of my freshman year, having
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  Speaker 4: all the luxuries, you have all the things of a
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  Speaker 4: D1 school. And then I go to South Mountain Community
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  Speaker 4: College and I'm changing in the parking lot, dragging the field,
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  Speaker 4: doing all that stuff.
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  Speaker 8: And it really helps you appreciate the.
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  Speaker 4: Little things and how much baseball means and your teammates,
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  Speaker 4: how much that matters. And you don't have all the
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  Speaker 4: luxuries of the nice restaurants, the nice apartments, all that stuff,
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  Speaker 4: the nice fields.
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  Speaker 8: And you kind of got to grind for it and
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  Speaker 8: it makes you just appreciate it that much more.
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  Speaker 6: Do you feel like this is kind of like a
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  Speaker 6: two-fold question, but it's kind of about what you're talking about?
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  Speaker 6: I just saw the Canadian Premier team with Jamie Romack
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  Speaker 6: coaching down in Jupiter. I don't know if you played
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  Speaker 6: for those guys, but watching those guys play, and talking
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  Speaker 6: to Jamie about youth movement in Canada, how much do
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  Speaker 6: you feel like, and I know you were playing on
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  Speaker 6: a different team, but watching the Jays go to the
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  Speaker 6: World Series, how much do you think that's helping youth
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  Speaker 6: baseball in Canada to then maybe not make you, or
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  Speaker 6: maybe help you be ready when you go to Nebraska
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  Speaker 6: and not have to go to a junior college?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think starting off the Jays making
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  Speaker 4: the World Series, I mean, you got a whole country
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  Speaker 4: cheering for one team.
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  Speaker 8: Like that's something kind of special you don't really get.
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  Speaker 4: And it just, I don't know, it gives those kids
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  Speaker 4: in Canada who don't have all that.
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  Speaker 8: We only get to play a little bit of the year.
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  Speaker 8: We don't get to play in the winters.
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  Speaker 4: We can't play year round. But it just gives us
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  Speaker 4: that much that there's a sport in Canada. There's a
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  Speaker 4: baseball team in Canada that we can kind of look
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  Speaker 4: up to when we're kids.
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  Speaker 8: And like maybe one day I can make it there.
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  Speaker 1: Cora, let's talk about the Fall League. You're out there.
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  Speaker 5: You're playing with– because when I went to the Fall League,
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  Speaker 5: this was almost 30 years ago, we played in our division.
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  Speaker 5: So we had– I was AL Central. So we had
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  Speaker 5: the AL Central that all played together. You guys have Minnesota, Washington, Colorado,
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  Speaker 5: and Arizona. Is there anybody you knew before you went
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  Speaker 5: out there that was a non-Yankee prospect? Or is there
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  Speaker 5: someone out there on your team you're like, man, I've
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  Speaker 5: really gotten to know this guy and I love this guy?
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  Speaker 8: Man, that's a good question. I mean, I'm not going
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  Speaker 8: to lie. Our team is great. Like, I couldn't have
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  Speaker 8: asked for a better team out here. We're a tight-knit group.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, everybody's a good dude, and we're all going
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  Speaker 4: for the same goal.
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  Speaker 8: But I'm trying to think. That's a good question.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I played against some of these guys in
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: high A this year, the Washington guys. I played against
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: a couple of the Rocky guys in double A as well. So,
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, just reconnecting with those guys– And getting to
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: play with them is kind of cool.
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: A different level. Kind of explain, because we have different
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: people from the Fall League going. Do you feel like
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: this is a different level from, like, would you have
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: been more ready for this experience playing-wise in the Fall
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: League had you been in AA or AAA? Or do
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: you feel like it is all across the spectrum of players'
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: abilities that are out there?
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a ton of different skills and talents.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: You got guys who are just coming off of injury
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: who are trying to get the feel for it again.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: You got guys who fresh out of the draft who
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: are just ready.
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: To get going.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: You got older guys who have missed time, different levels
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: like that. So I think it's just a good solid
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: mix of everything, but it's a ton of skill out
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: here for sure.
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: Okay, Kratzy, here we are again, man. How many times
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: do we have to tell people to get the best
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: tickets in the house? Where do we got to go?
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: We got to go to SeatGeek. It's been worth it
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: so many times, so many years. The green light will
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: let you know when it is time to go and
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: the best seats available. The red will let you know
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: if it's not the best. Kratzy, tell them how easy
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: it is.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: Todd, I know it's easy, but I'm looking for the
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: deals because that's what I do. Even so much, like
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: we're getting such a good deal, I want you to
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: come across the river and and we'll go to a
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: Sixers game together. I don't know where to sit in
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: the stadium, but it'll let me know that it's a
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: perfect view because I'm not a big NBA fan, but
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: I gotta go see the Sixers play with LeBron and
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: the boys.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: And of course I have a code for you all.
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: You can use code TERRITORY10 for 10% off your next
• 17:18
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• 17:22
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• 17:26
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• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Cora, by the way, when I went to the Fall Leagues,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: I came from the September call-up, so it was way different.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: I went from the big leagues, playing in Cleveland, Jacobs Field,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: where there's 50,000, 40,000 people, whatever they hold. And then
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: I get to the Fall League, and I'm like, where's
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: all the people? people here this is cool and it's
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: mom and dad and someone's girlfriend you're like wow so
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: how do you get up how do you get up
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: for these games right i i mean i know you
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: know you're you're still grinding through the minor leagues and
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: all these games are important but how explain to people
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: how hard it is to get excited for a folly
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: game when there's literally seven people in the stands and
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: i don't know if you guys still play at 10
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: a.m we used to play at 10 a.m which made
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: it even harder because some of us might have gone
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: to scottsdale too much.
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: Okay No, we're lucky we don't have any 10 AMs
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: this year.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: 1.30 is usually the earliest. But no, it's a different
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: vibe for sure with less people out there. But I mean,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: you got to kind of create your own energy. Like
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I said, our team does a really good job of
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: picking each other up and keeping the energy in there.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: We got a lot of guys who love to talk, dance,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: and doing all that stuff.
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: So it keeps the energy good, the vibe good in there.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: And then just even the coaching staff, they're always keeping
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: it positive, keeping it energetic with what we do. So
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: it makes it a little bit easier with not that
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: support of the crowd.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Your team or another team, the All-Star Game's coming up.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: And I choose to believe the Arizona Fall League, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: it's the big names. It's rarely like, ooh, the dude
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: that's killing it. So they kind of have an idea
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: of who's going to go to the All-Star Game. So
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: if you don't get selected, it's okay. If you do,
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: don't think you're the king. You're the king, Pumbaa. But
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: they have a home run derby. Of the guys you've seen,
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: either on your team in BP, I don't care what
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: they've done in the games, or you've seen on other teams,
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: who would you like to see hit in that home
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: run derby?
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: I got to choose my team at Cal West.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: He's a first baseman who plays a little bit outfield,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: but man, he hits, he gets some, some home runs
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: for sure. I actually, the other day he.
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: Had two, one at 112 and one at 109, like 450,
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: like he can swing. So I would like to see
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: him get into some balls.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: Were you guys, were you guys together in Hudson Valley
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: and Somerset?
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I played the whole year with him in, Hudson
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: Valley yeah.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: So do you guys still get so I finished with
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: the Yankees in 2019-20 and they started to put the
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: paper on your chair at the end of every two
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: weeks or the end of every homestand do they do
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: that and do you go up to him and go bro,
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: I averaged 98.6 in my BP, and he's like, 101
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: in my BP.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: See, they don't put the paper anymore, but they got
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: all the metrics online where you can go into your
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: account and look all that up. So we get into some–
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: we get into little debates of who can hit it harder,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: who can hit it farther, but he usually ends up winning, so.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Court, do they do that in the fall league for you?
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Like, do you guys– because if you watch a big
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: league game and– Every pitch, the guy looks up and
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: every hitter looks up at the vert and the horizontal
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: and the speed. And then the guys hit the home
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: run or they get the fly out and they'll look
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: up at the exit velo and the launch angle. In
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: the fall league, do they– do you guys talk about
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: that kind of stuff? Like as soon as you hit
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: a ball, do you run and grab the iPad and say, oh, man,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: how did that ball not go out of the park?
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's definitely– Those guys who love the iPad,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: me personally, I'm not one of them. I like to
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: just love the game. And if I got it, I
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: know I got it. And if I didn't, I didn't
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: barrel it perfect. But there's definitely those guys who go
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: straight to the iPad.
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: Would I hit that? Would I hit that? But sometimes
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: it's cool to see what the angles and the metrics are.
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: But I try to stay away.
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: Different organizations, and different just baseball in general, they pay
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: for the power. They pay for the home run. When
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: you watch this World Series, does it make you feel like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: wait a minute, I can make an adjustability. You're not
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: a big strikeout guy. You get your walks. You have
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: a little bit of chase, but nothing egregious. Do you
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: feel like when you watch these games, you're like, they
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: had success? I know the organization or baseball says swing
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: as hard as you can, even when it's not your count.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Do you think that's something that your generation or your
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: age player is going to keep pushing and getting better
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: at to have a better career?
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, see, I mean, like you said, the games tend
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: into home runs and turn into power and all that,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: but that's.
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: The Brewers and the Rays, the way they played.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Is the way I grew up knowing how to play
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: and was taught how to play. It's, you have your
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: home runs, but it's line drives in the gaps, backside singles,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: getting it done with two strikes, not striking out, like
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: making pressure, putting pressure on the defense and like doing
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: whatever it takes to score a run. So I would
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: love to see the game go kind of back to that,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: but I think it's trending in more, more power and
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: more strikeouts and home runs and power on power. But yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: The baseball I grew up knowing was backside singles, but
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: hit in the gap and play hard-nosed baseball.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: So you're enjoying the heck out of this World Series
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: is what you're telling me.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: I love it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Because it sounds like you just described the Brewers and
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: the Rays to a tee. They do hit some home runs,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: but they go the other way. If you noticed last
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: night in the inning where the Rays scored the runs
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: in the 12th, a lot of the hits were the
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: other way, and the Brewers are.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Known for that. Do you guys watch the World Series
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: out there?
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Do you guys have, like, watch parties where you go
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: to someone's condo or house, apartment, and watch the games?
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: We haven't done no watch parties yet, but we usually
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: have it on here after we get home from the game.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Nice with the afternoon game, so we can actually watch
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: it at night. So it makes our evenings pretty eventful.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: I bet you watched last year, though, didn't you, when
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: the Jays were in it? So now I bet you
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: watched last year.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: I did. All right. Well, you were saying you come
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: back to the apartment. Do you guys pay for your apartment,
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: or does the team pay for it?
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: Team-funded. which is nice.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, how many roommates do you have?
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: There's three of us. Me and two of the other
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: Yankee guys.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: Three bedrooms?
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: Three bedrooms, two baths.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: AJ is the one. AJ is the old... you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: I'll get off my lawn kind of thing. But I'll
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: tell you when I went to the fall league in 2005, many,
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: many years after AJ did, we had six people in
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: a two bedroom apartment and I snored. So I took
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: one of the entire rooms.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: You don't even want to know my story. You don't
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: even core. Listen, we had to find our own apartments.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: We had to find our own place. We had to
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: pay for our own place. We had to pay for
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: our food. We had to do all that.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: We weren't making nothing. I was there in 98, by
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the way. So I was there way before crafts.
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: And I slept on an air mattress on the floor.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: We had a two bedroom, two bathroom apartment. I slept
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: on an air mattress on the floor. Another buddy, Mike
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Lincoln slept on the couch and we had two roommates
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: that were married. And so we gave them the two
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: rooms upstairs because they had kids. So their wife and
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: kids would come visit. So we would sleep on the,
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: on the couch and I was on the air mattress
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: on the floor and And my other two roommates were
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: upstairs with their families when they would come in town. So, yeah,
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: it was a little bit different than what it is now.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: I would say that's some dedication right there.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: They're treating you right. They're treating you right. You were
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: talking about grinding. You were changing in the parking lot.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: I like that. I like that. Last question from me.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: Is there something behind you going– because your middle name
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: is Core. And when I found out we were having
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: Core Jackson on the show, I was like– me and A.J.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: both said, whoa, that's a big league name. So did you–
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: when did that change? And were you like, oh, I'm
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: so good at baseball, I'm going to change my name
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: to Core. I'm going to go by Core because that's gas.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: No, honestly, my entire life I never heard my parents
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: call me James. The only time I ever get James
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: is when I'm at the doctor's office or I'm crossing
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: the border. It's the only time I get James.
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: So it's been core my whole life.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I think your parents did it right because it's unique.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: It's core.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I'm into it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Core, can you explain? We had an argument earlier, and
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you're out in Arizona.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: I know you're from Canada, so this might be– this
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: is a weird question because we couldn't get it right either.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: How do you say the name of the team on
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Monday that you all beat 20-4? It's the cactus out there.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: It's the Sahara, Saguaro, Saguaro, Saguaro.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Wait, wait.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I wasn't part of this conversation. I called Arizona folly
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: games for years.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: It's Suarez. The G is very silent.
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: I could have sworn you Saguaro.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Now look at us. We're teaching you too.
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there we go.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And that team has the best marketing because of that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Every time it's brought up, somebody is like, wait, what?
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: And then you explain it. So it's, organic marketing with
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the name.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: I was a Saguaro.
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's why, you know, there you go. Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: I was a desert dog. I was a Phoenix desert
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: dog back in the day.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Well, let's, let's let our, uh, salt river rafter do
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: his thing.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Core. This was great, dude. Hope you enjoyed it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Great, great interview. Uh, keep doing your thing.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Okay. Enjoy it out there. Awesome.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: Thank you guys.
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: Appreciate you guys having me. It was good talking with
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: you all.