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  Speaker 1: Jesus is the gold reform it.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show tonight. Donald Trump's former spokesman says
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  Speaker 2: Scott Morrison should replace trump hating Kevin Rudd as our
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  Speaker 2: next ambassador to the US after Morrison has met Trump
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  Speaker 2: in New York and Morrison doesn't rule that out. Also
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  Speaker 2: on the show, Barnaby, Joyce and Will Cross to the
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  Speaker 2: opposition's leader Peter Dutton his formal response to the budget.
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  Speaker 2: His speech and reply in about thirty minutes, we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about immigration, finally taking on the issue that other liberal
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: leaders haven't dared. But first, Labour's shame continues, the total
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  Speaker 2: lack of leadership as hatred of Israel and with it
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  Speaker 2: due hatred takes hold in Australia like never before. Now
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  Speaker 2: on that we actually have now Melbourne University far left
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  Speaker 2: academic forming a picket line to protect anti Israel students
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  Speaker 2: who have occupied and US building unlawfully and are chanting
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  Speaker 2: for interfada under as a terrorist war by Muslims against
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  Speaker 2: Israeli Jews. But where's Labor being, Where's the leadership to
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  Speaker 2: call this out, to act against this intimidation and these
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  Speaker 2: calls for violence that are terrifying Australian Jews. Well, today,
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  Speaker 2: I'm afraid more labor shame. I told you last night
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  Speaker 2: that a Labour senator that we took in from Afghanistan
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  Speaker 2: Fatimah payment yesterday, repeated a falsehood that israelis committing genocide,
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  Speaker 2: before repeating a truly genocidal slogan endorsed by the Hamasterist
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  Speaker 2: group calling for the destruction of Israel.
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  Speaker 3: This is a genocide and we need to stop tending otherwise.
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  Speaker 4: From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's astonishing that an elected politician in the
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  Speaker 2: Australian Parliament would wish the destruction of the only Jewish
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  Speaker 2: state in the world, a toney country, just the third
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  Speaker 2: the size of Tasmania, and what to senator payment I
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  Speaker 2: expect would happen to its seven million Jews. Now true,
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  Speaker 2: there was some slight toughening of the Prime Minister's talk
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  Speaker 2: in response today after so much fence sitting.
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  Speaker 4: Is it appropriate?
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  Speaker 5: No, it's not what's appropriate as a two state solution.
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  Speaker 2: But later in Parliament Alban Eazy went back to going
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  Speaker 2: soft again, wouldn't even sack payment from a key Foreign
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  Speaker 2: Affairs committee despite her chanting for the destruction of one
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  Speaker 2: of our allies.
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  Speaker 5: Will the Prime Minister show strong, not week leadership and
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  Speaker 5: remove Senator Payment from the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs,
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  Speaker 5: Defense and Trade. I've said very clearly that that thing
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  Speaker 5: that calls for a single state is not appropriate.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just not appropriate. I mean, seriously, chanting
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  Speaker 2: for Jewish Israel to be destroyed is not appropriate. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: get with it. I mean in the Senate I have
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  Speaker 2: to say it was even worse from foreigners than Penny one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just already disgrace herself by pushing Australia
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  Speaker 2: to be more pro Palestine in response to, and almost
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  Speaker 2: as a reward for the Masterist attack in Israel last
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  Speaker 2: November that slaughtered twelve hundred Israelis, raped women, beheaded, men,
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  Speaker 2: shot children in front of their parents, took hostages. And
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  Speaker 2: today it was more of the same. The opposition to
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  Speaker 2: put up a very weak motion in response to Payment
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  Speaker 2: didn't even condemn it by name. It just condemned from
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  Speaker 2: the River to the Sea chant. So even I mean
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  Speaker 2: Labor had to vote for it. In the end, what
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  Speaker 2: else could it do but publicly endorsed calls through Israel's destruction.
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  Speaker 2: Not yet. But here's what Wong did say today just
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  Speaker 2: before that vote about Payment's call, trying to soften what
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  Speaker 2: you said.
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  Speaker 1: This government represents the Australian community more completely than any
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  Speaker 1: government in this country's history. We're a government more than
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  Speaker 1: half women, more First Nations members than any government that
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  Speaker 1: has preceded us. We have members of Parliament from many
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  Speaker 1: different countries, whose ancestries are from many different cultures. We're
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  Speaker 1: members of many different faiths. We are proud of how
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  Speaker 1: much we represent the richness and the diversity of the
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  Speaker 1: Australian community.
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  Speaker 2: I hate that identity politics. I mean, as Wong suggested
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  Speaker 2: that Payment being Afghan and Muslim, of course that's why
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  Speaker 2: you should want Israel wiped out. And then you might conclude,
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  Speaker 2: if you believe that rubbish, oh well, should we actually
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  Speaker 2: be importing more Afghans and Muslims? If this is what
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  Speaker 2: labor reckons, they're like the hate that bring I go
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  Speaker 2: too far down that thought, I think. But in fact
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  Speaker 2: one seemed to excuse Payment feeling so angry that she
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  Speaker 2: did want Israel gone.
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  Speaker 1: Similarly, we have seen in this chamber and beyond the
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  Speaker 1: distress that so many Australians feel at what we are
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  Speaker 1: seeing in Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what is Wog saying now? She didn't then
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  Speaker 2: say what she thought payment had specifically done wrong. She
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  Speaker 2: hadn't followed labor policy.
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  Speaker 1: We want a two state solution. The phrase from the
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  Speaker 1: rivers of the Sea is not consistent with a two
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  Speaker 1: state solution, and it is that solution which is needed
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  Speaker 1: for peace and security of Palestinians and Israelis alike.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not consistent.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So the Pharramisic complains that the center demanding the destruction
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  Speaker 2: of the Jewish nation isn't being consistent with labor policy.
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  Speaker 2: That's the sin. I mean really hate speech like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's just against Labour's foreign policy. It's not evil in itself.
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  Speaker 2: And one final point you need to know the politicians
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  Speaker 2: are refused to condemn even this call for the destruction
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  Speaker 2: of Israel, the Greens plus former Green Senator Lydia Thorpe,
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  Speaker 2: the Greens which is now the party for the due
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  Speaker 2: haters of Australia, while Labor too gutless to spink frankly
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  Speaker 2: about this poison. But good news at last, in twenty
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  Speaker 2: minutes time, Peter Dunt will give the opposition's formal response
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  Speaker 2: in Parliament to its Uesday's budget, and we'll cross to
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  Speaker 2: that and finally we will have a Liberal leader taking
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  Speaker 2: on immigration as a big election issue now. For too
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  Speaker 2: long Liberals have been scared of being called racist, so
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  Speaker 2: they haven't said much about the mass immigration we've had
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  Speaker 2: since the Labor government came in. And you know, at
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  Speaker 2: Labor then years ago this was doubled our average intake.
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  Speaker 2: The Albizi government then doubled it again. I mean completely crazy,
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  Speaker 2: more than half a million immigrants net in a single
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  Speaker 2: year and the consequence is unbelievable choke cities, roads, trains, hospitals, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure not keeping up, and we're running out of houses
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: of course, house prices and rents crazy. And haven't even
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  Speaker 2: talked about crime and national disunity, and Donton in question
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  Speaker 2: time today was already signaling what is going to be
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  Speaker 2: for him a key election battle.
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  Speaker 5: Will the Prime Minister admit that his week leadership and
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  Speaker 5: bad decisions over three budgets have made it harder for
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  Speaker 5: Australians to buy or to rent a home now. We
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  Speaker 5: inherited a broken migration system and we're working to fix
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  Speaker 5: it under our government.
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  Speaker 3: Net overseas migration is on track to hav next year.
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  Speaker 2: Labour's going to fix it. Yes, it now promises to
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  Speaker 2: cut immigration to two hundred and sixty thousand people a year,
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  Speaker 2: but that is still twice for John Howard led in
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  Speaker 2: on average the Sky News. Xandra Lenel today said, well done.
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  Speaker 2: Today is going to cut that intake Labour's new smaller
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  Speaker 2: one by another one hundred thousand. Joining me every Thursday
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  Speaker 2: is Nationals Front Venture Bataby Joyce, the Formula Deputy Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister Badaby Jewish, thanks for joining me. Under Anthony Albneasy,
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  Speaker 2: we've had as many as five hundred and fifty thousand
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  Speaker 2: immigrants coming to single year net ALBINIZI now says, oh, look,
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  Speaker 2: don't worry, I'm going to have that two sixty What
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  Speaker 2: do you think it should be? And why?
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  Speaker 5: Well, first thing I'd say is don't believe anything this
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  Speaker 5: man says. We've seen that two hundred and seventy five
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  Speaker 5: dollar tax cuts, a stage two hundred and seventy five
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  Speaker 5: dollars power cut to the stage three tax cuts. It's
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  Speaker 5: just his word is not his bond. And well he
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  Speaker 5: hasn't got a good track record thus far, has he.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we've basically got cities come into Australia without
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  Speaker 5: the houses, the hospitals, the schools, the roads. To deal
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  Speaker 5: with it, I know that I know that Peter Dutton
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  Speaker 5: will be dealing with it for the Coalition tonight in
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  Speaker 5: the Budget and reply speech, and I think that he
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  Speaker 5: will be someone that we actually can rely on to
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  Speaker 5: absolutely cut this so Australians get houses and Australians are
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  Speaker 5: not sleeping in cars and we look after our people first.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting, it's become funny issue that the Liberals want
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  Speaker 2: to discuss because of the housing problem. Of course we
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  Speaker 2: don't actually hear the Liberals still talk about mass immigration
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  Speaker 2: as a problem for national unity. For instance. You know,
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  Speaker 2: is it beyond our capacity to create one people out
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  Speaker 2: of all these tribes that we now seem to have.
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  Speaker 2: Is that an issue for you?
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I'm a strong believer in multi ethnicity.
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  Speaker 5: I think the color of his skin or what you
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  Speaker 5: believe in is irrelevant. But you have to come together
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  Speaker 5: as an Australian culture because if you have a house
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  Speaker 5: divided against itself, it will fail because of that division
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  Speaker 5: in culture is so pronounced that you believe that the
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  Speaker 5: essence of your culture is the destruction of somebody else's. Well,
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  Speaker 5: how can that both reside in a harmonious way within
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  Speaker 5: the House called Australia.
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  Speaker 4: It just can't.
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  Speaker 2: And if a part of.
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  Speaker 5: Your culture that is to get rid of another person
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  Speaker 5: because of their belief or because of their race, then
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  Speaker 5: that might be a culture, but it's not multiculturalism. It's
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  Speaker 5: a disaster because by the very essence of what that
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  Speaker 5: person believes in means another person is subjugated or bereft
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  Speaker 5: of the rights that they otherwise would have in a
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  Speaker 5: properly friend democratic nation.
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  Speaker 2: I'm afraid we seem to be getting there more and more.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just on that point. Anthony Abernezi's response today
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  Speaker 2: to the Labour senator who calls for the destruction of
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  Speaker 2: Israel from the river to the sea, I sawry, but
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  Speaker 2: he's in Parliament, the Prime Minister in Parliament saying oh
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  Speaker 2: that's not appropriate. Those words are not appropriate. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: for heaven's sake, it's a little bit more than that.
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  Speaker 2: Nor is he going to dump for Senate of payment
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  Speaker 2: from the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, even though
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  Speaker 2: she's just calling for the destruction, the total distruction of
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  Speaker 2: one of our allies. Is this good enough? Well, they're
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  Speaker 2: tying themselves in knots, aren't they.
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  Speaker 5: I Mean, it's only a matter of weeks ago that
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  Speaker 5: they supported a United Nations resolution which which never asked
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  Speaker 5: for a peaceful settlement, for a two state solution, It
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  Speaker 5: just recognized Palestine. So we've obviously recognized the government that's
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  Speaker 5: of Hamas a terrorist organization, given them exactly what they wanted.
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  Speaker 5: But after their Barbarracks acts on October the seventh, and
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  Speaker 5: we know, and now there's you know, and now there's
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  Speaker 5: sort of you know, this sort of prevaricating confusion. Oh well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, some people something different when they say from
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  Speaker 5: the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea that maybe there's
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  Speaker 5: another country.
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  Speaker 2: Out there that's there.
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  Speaker 5: But if Hamas has rule from the Jordan River to
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  Speaker 5: the Mediterranean Sea, then they believe in the destruction, the
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  Speaker 5: destruction of the state of Israel in all that it represents,
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  Speaker 5: which includes the people, includes the Jewish people there. So
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  Speaker 5: he can't just sit idly by and watch this senator
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  Speaker 5: from the Labor Party say that. I mean, he has
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  Speaker 5: to publicly reprimand her in the strongest possible terms to
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  Speaker 5: give confidence to the Australian people about his strength of
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  Speaker 5: character and his fortitude in not having anti Semitism rise
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  Speaker 5: again in Australia. I know he doesn't believe in anti Semitism,
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  Speaker 5: but he's got to show the strength to fight against it,
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  Speaker 5: and he hasn't shown that. He showed himself to be
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  Speaker 5: a very weak man.
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  Speaker 2: Baaby Joyce, thank you so much for your time. Always
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: a pleasure the break Scott Morrison meets Donald Trump like
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  Speaker 2: Ambassador Kevin Rudd can't, and a former Trumps spokesman warns,
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  Speaker 2: if we want things from a re elected President Trump,
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  Speaker 2: you're better give Morrison Rudd's job. One of the people
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  Speaker 2: closest to Donald Trump when he was president has some advice.
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  Speaker 2: Make Scott Morrison our ambassadors to the United States if
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  Speaker 2: Trump is elected president again in November. It seems very
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  Speaker 2: likely talk to him in a second because Morrison, the
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  Speaker 2: former Liberal Prime Minister, yesterday proved why he should indeed
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  Speaker 2: replace Kevin Rudd as our ambassador when Trump becomes president again.
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  Speaker 2: Morrison met Trump in New York and talked about Australia
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  Speaker 2: in the US needing our orchestra defense steel for the
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  Speaker 2: nuclear submarines, especially with Chinese threats to Taiwan important message
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  Speaker 2: for Australia, and he said Trump was right on board.
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  Speaker 2: And the illegal moves by Democrat prosecutors to try to
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: get Trump jailed before the election seen to Paylon here,
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  Speaker 2: he is, it's.
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  Speaker 6: Always good to see a friendly face when you're you know,
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  Speaker 6: you're facing a bit of a pylon, and the per
• 14:05
  Speaker 6: former President Trump was certainly facing that at the moment.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, politics is a brutal business and we're seeing
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  Speaker 6: that played out. You know. I think when you know
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  Speaker 6: politics is being played out in the courts, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I do find that a bit concerning, and I think
• 14:22
  Speaker 6: we have I think those institutions are therefore for very
• 14:28
  Speaker 6: important purposes and when they collide a bit, I get
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  Speaker 6: a bit worried about that. But you know, this is
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  Speaker 6: their country. They'll play it the way they see fit.
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  Speaker 2: That's an important point and Trump would have loved hearing it.
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  Speaker 2: So Morrison seems a man that Trump can deal with
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  Speaker 2: in our national interests. In contrast, there's how current ambassador
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  Speaker 2: former Labor Prime Minister Kevin Rudd. Now Rudd was picked
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: by his old mate Anthony Albanis, even though before he
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  Speaker 2: became ambassador, Rudder called Trump a traded to the West,
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  Speaker 2: and also called him the most destructive president in his
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: and a man who drags American democracy through the mud
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: and abuses Christianity to justified violence, and on and on
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: and in fact, he said Trump was mentally unhinged. I
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: think the general consensus amongst anyone concerned with the public
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: policy process, domestic or international, thinks he's nuts. Now, when
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Nagel Faraj reminded Trump of all this this year, Trump
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  Speaker 2: lashed out, I.
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  Speaker 7: Don't know much about him. I heard he was a
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  Speaker 7: little bit nasty. I hear he's not the brightest bulb.
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  Speaker 7: But I don't know much about him. But if he's
• 15:37
  Speaker 7: at all hostile, he will not be there long.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it makes sense. And when now Sky News
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  Speaker 2: US correspondent a List niels and asked Morrison would he
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: like to replace Rudd as ambassador, What's interesting was that
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: he didn't actually rule it out just in the all political,
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  Speaker 2: you know, or shocks kind of thing.
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  Speaker 6: That's not that's not my role, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Not what I have he says, And here now.
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  Speaker 6: No, No, I'm very happy with what I'm doing now,
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  Speaker 6: and as is my family, so you know, and I'm
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: enjoying that. But where I can help, I'm keen to
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: do that for Aucust in particular, obviously having been the
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  Speaker 6: founder of it. I want to make sure that, you know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: we continue to connect who we need to connect to
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: make this successful, and I'll work with everybody to achieve that.
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  Speaker 6: Anyone who wants to get Orcust moving and making it happen,
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  Speaker 6: they're an ally of mine.
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  Speaker 2: Spoken like an ambassador, but someone who has worked for
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  Speaker 2: Trump is just about how spokesman's president says. Yes, indeed,
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  Speaker 2: Morrison would be great. Is Sewan spoicer and I talked
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  Speaker 2: to him a short while ago. Sewn space is great
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  Speaker 2: to see it. Look, we've got an ambassador in Washington,
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  Speaker 2: former premiers of Kevin Rudd. It's called Donald Trump nuts,
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  Speaker 2: a traitor, the most destructive president in history. On the
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: other hand, we've got another former premis of Scott Morrison,
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  Speaker 2: a man you know who's just met Donald Trump again
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  Speaker 2: and say this is the victim of a disturbing pylon.
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  Speaker 2: Which of these two former prime ministers do you think
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: would be the most effective ambassador for Australia if Donald
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Trump were elected. Knowing Donald Trump as you do.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go with Scott Morrison on this one. Andrew, Look,
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand how any ambassador thinks that it's a
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: smart idea to be critical of current or former leaders
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: in the country that they're supposed to be a liaison to.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: It doesn't sound very smart of former Prime Minister now
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Ambassador Rudd to be coming into the United States knowing
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: that President Trump is up, you know, is going to
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: be the candidate of the Republican Party, making enemies. It's
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: just not good diplomatic protocol.
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  Speaker 2: Sean, you know, I have to say Kevin R'd made
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  Speaker 2: to all those comments before he became ambassador. He's trying
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: to row back now. But you know, Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 2: it seems to me from an as an outside is
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  Speaker 2: very much my team noting kind of guy responds very
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  Speaker 2: touchly to criticism. Is he the kind of guy that
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: would forgive and forget that? I would say, well, that
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: was in the past. How would he respond to an
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: ambassador he knows has abused him in the past, because
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: he was reminded of this by Nagel Farage on TV
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  Speaker 2: and a couple of months ago.
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  Speaker 3: I think it would depend on how in this case
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  Speaker 3: Ambassador Rudd approached him. So I think it would be
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  Speaker 3: up to Rudd to sort of reposition himself.
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  Speaker 4: Now that's up to him. Does he want to do that?
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  Speaker 4: Will Trump give him opportunity?
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  Speaker 3: But generally, speaking of my expert in my sort of experience,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Trump's willing to give somebody who wants to make amends
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: the opportunity. It just you know, the question is how
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  Speaker 3: real is that, how authentic is it?
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  Speaker 4: And will he be given the opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that would be the hard thing for
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: him is how did he get How does he get
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: himself in a position if Donald Trump does win, which
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I believe he will, into a position where he could
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: come in sort of eat some crow. As we say
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: here Mayakopa, I was gonna say, Joe Hockey.
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  Speaker 4: Did a phenomenal job representing Australia.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: He understood the role, very very deaf politician he is,
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  Speaker 3: and so I would argue that somebody like him, and
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I think he used.
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  Speaker 4: It to benefit Australia.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the relationship that Ambassador Joe Hockey had
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: representing Australia showed. I mean, he pleas you mentioned, he
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: played golf with him. He had a very personal relationship.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I assume if Trump played tennis. Still he would go
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: over and play on that beautiful court that the Australian
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: embassy has. But that's the kind of power that a
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: personal relationship can be utilized for to benefit your home country.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting, you know, Sean, I thought, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: that I remember Joe Biden giving hints or his team
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  Speaker 2: giving hints that maybe there wouldn't be debates with Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 2: and that to me, look it should It was appalling.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, you shouldn't be running away from debating your
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  Speaker 2: opponent when we're talking about trying to choose the next
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  Speaker 2: president of the United States. But I thought, what makes
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: sense given how he's lacking sharpness and focus, and I thought,
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  Speaker 2: you know, why would he expose himself to that danger?
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  Speaker 2: But he has now agreed only two debates, which seems
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  Speaker 2: to be a bit shy. June twenty seventh. A second
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  Speaker 2: on September ten, Donald Trump took all of thirty minutes
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  Speaker 2: to say, yep, I'm going to be there. What do
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  Speaker 2: you think, what's going on? What's the background to this?
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  Speaker 2: Often do you think?
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  Speaker 3: So, there's a couple of things. It's really interesting to
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: you asking about the Trump background.
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  Speaker 4: I'll go to that first. Trump fears no one right.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's the thing is that his view is
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  Speaker 3: if I can get on stage minor you mono, I'm
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: going to best that person. And he did it in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty. I think he'll do it again in this cycle.
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  Speaker 3: So he doesn't care about the things that people like
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: me do on the campaign's staff standpoint, in terms of
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: the venue and the moderator, all things that I think
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: are important.
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  Speaker 4: Trump's view is bring it on. I'll take you anywhere, anytime.
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  Speaker 3: That's the challenge he posed to Joe Biden the Biden campaign,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: to be honest with you, Andrew, when I woke up
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  Speaker 3: this morning, I was shocked that they actually accepted his offer.
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  Speaker 3: But you notice, and this is not getting a ton
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  Speaker 3: of representation in the mainstream left wing media here in
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  Speaker 3: the US. Biden did it with very clear terms. Number One,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: he said, basically, no third parties. That means no RFK.
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  Speaker 3: He does not want RFK Junior on that debate or
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: frankly anybody else. He knows that that hurts him. Number
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  Speaker 3: two is he said he wants no audience. He wants
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  Speaker 3: it in a television studio where there's no audience because
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: right now. Frankly, from the economy to immigration to his
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: foreign policy positions, he has nothing favorable and he knows
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  Speaker 3: that an audience wouldn't react well to that, so he
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: said no audience. Number three, He said that it had
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  Speaker 3: to be at a left wing media operation, so it
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: wasn't going to be handled where it could be broadcast
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  Speaker 3: by everyone. Who was going to be a moderator like
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: the softball one he got on CNN?
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: What did he get the first one? CNN?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Jake Tapper, a former Democratic aide whose former boss, by
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the way, is Chelsea Clinton's mother in law. She served
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: in Congress. Jake was her press secretary, right so he
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: is a Democratic operative. He is going to be this.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Biden couldn't ask for a bigger hometown at home field advantage.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: He laid the field out and made sure that the
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: criteria was very clear that if you want me to
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: participate in these debates, here are the criteria that's going
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: to benefit me that you have to accept. And I
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: think that's important because the media is not really reporting
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: it here in the US. But Biden ensured that he
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: laid the ground that everything that Trump had to accept
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: would benefit Biden from the outlet, to the moderator, to
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  Speaker 3: the atmosphere by not allowing an audience, to not allowing
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: third parties.
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  Speaker 4: It was very clear.
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  Speaker 3: And again I think because of who Doc Trump is,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: he said, fine, I'll take you anywhere, anytime, and I'll
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: even go one further.
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  Speaker 4: I want more of them. I think that it'll be interesting.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: My only cautionary note Andrew is this, I think Trump's
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: got to be careful, very careful about not lowering the
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: bar too low. At some point, if the bar merely
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: becomes that Joe Biden has to show up and stand
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: there for sixty minutes, that's going.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: To be a disservice.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Trump needs to lean into the fact that Biden's been
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: an elective office for fifty years.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: He's a skilled debater.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Because Biden's trying to lay this thing like, oh gosh,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I gotta be careful and Trump can't do this and
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: can't do that, I think Trump needs to set a
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: trap for him because the guy commits one or two
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: gaffs during that thing, during that during that first debate.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I think that's where Biden's folks are going to be very,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: very worried that he shows his frailty mentally and physically
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: early on, and that's gonna hurt him.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Shul Spassa always great to talk to you. Thank you
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: so much for your time. Give that in Now. It's
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: a shorter show because we're going to across the Peter
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Dutton in about one and a half minutes. But I
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: do want to do my book tip of the week.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Take it from me because it is relevant. The book
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: is Alexander Salzen instance The Gulag Archipelago, written about sixty
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: years ago, over a decade, about how Russia the Communists
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: ruined Russia by jailing up to five million people plus
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: actually every year for a while at the height of it,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: and in prison camps, concentration camps more than a million
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: between and two million people died and all the excuses
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I was Stalin wasn't hit, It wasn't Lenin, No, it
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: was Lenin. It's inherent in communism, the use of force.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: And the reason this book is so great, and there's
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: a bit of what I just want to read out
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: to it before we get to the speech. Ideology is
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: what gives what gives evil doing, it's long sought justification.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: It gives the evil doer the necessary steadfastness and determination
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: to turn a few victims into many. And that's what
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: we're seeing is he lists their examples, you know, the Nazis,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: of course, the Jacobins in the French Revolution. How good
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: people could do these evil things and still think themselves good.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: It's ideology, and right now the ideology of anti Semitism,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: of anti sorry, of anti Zionism is excusing so much cruelty.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: It's turning our so many students into really little monsters,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: thinking they're still good, but being so evil. Anyway, we're
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: now about just waiting for Anthony Albanesi, you too, not
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Anthony Abanzi. Peter dunn't to stand up and give his
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: response to Anthony Albanesi and his government's budget. And you've
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: got to be careful here. If he's going to start
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: talking talk as we're told about immigration needed to cut,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: you are going to see some liberals in name only,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: liberals in name only like Brigid Archer using this ar
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: suspect as an excuse. Oh that terrible. Peter Dutton is
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: anti racist or it is racist to be anti immigration.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: It is not, It is not. It is preserving the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: benefits of our immigrant society by making sure we take
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: in only as many people as we can comfortably accept.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Watch out for the noise. There's going to be a
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: pack attack. And also, of course Peter Dutton is going
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to have to be a little bit careful about how
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: he phrases it. This is an immigrant society, but we
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: cannot afford for it to degenerate into a tribalist society,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: which is what we're seeing now, and particularly one where
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: so many people going so fast it's just too much.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Here is Peter Dutton's