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Angie Wong · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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Well, good morning. This is Michelle Hughes and Ageless and Timeless. Today,
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I have someone here that is very very special. Her name is Angie
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Wong. She's a licensed massage therapist and she has her office in Hollywood,
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West Hollywood on Sunset and we'll give you all that detail later, but I
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wanted you to know a little bit about Angie before we introduce her, because
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I've always looked at massage as one of those modalities that's part of Ageless and
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Timeless. And however, when choosing a massage therapist, I think you have
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to be very very careful. And there is certainly a difference between what I
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call a massage therapist and a healer. And I would say the massage therapist
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is more like going to college, and the healer is more like going to
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graduate school. And when you find a healer and that healer really has an
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impact, a positive impact on you and your body, then you know that
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you have found nirvana. So stay with that person because that person has somehow
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psychically connected, intuitively connected with what your needs are. And we all we're
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all energetic beings. So when somebody feels our energy and then can tap into
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it and help to exacerbate. I mean, I'm sorry, defeat the problems
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that we have by finding the root cause and working with that. And Andie's
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going to tell you a little bit more about her treatments and her modalities.
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So without further ado, I want to introduce Angie Wang and she'll tell you
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more about what she does and why she does it and how she got to
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where she is today. So Angie, welcome. Thank you so much Michelle
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for having me. And I want you to know that today when you're talking
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to me, look in the camera perfect because it seems odd, but because
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I want to look at you as well. But then we're not looking at
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our viewers. And so it takes a little bit I know, it takes
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a little bit of training to do that. So Angie, you started,
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I think you got your degree in two thousand and two, and you've worked
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all over the LA area in spas and chiropractors and acupuncture opposite, where have
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you found your greatest satisfaction in terms of your before you started your own company,
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where did you find your greatest success? Yeah? Absolutely, And because
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of the different atmospheres that I worked in, I definitely found the most satisfaction
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in the medical setting obviously due to the fact that many people really live with
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chronic or acute pain anywhere, you know, all throughout our body, whether
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that's a neck and shoulders, low backum, hips, you name it,
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you know, head to toe right, And so many of us have experienced
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injuries in our life, some of which we don't even remember, which is
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so interesting. Um, you know, you have to remember that once we
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have been born, our body has been with us every single day, every
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second of the day, and it's literally recording every movement, every thought and
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feeling emotions that's stored in the body. And that's why, um, you
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know, it goes deeper than just physical pain when I talk about what I
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do, um, you know, collectively, but yes, a lot of
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the the findings that I see is is so much fulfilling when I'm in the
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in the medical space of real when you're when you're in a medical office,
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so they allow you to do a little more, take a little more poetic
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license, let's say, in terms, because they're medically certified. Then if
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you're doing it in a like a spa in Beverly Hills, Um, you
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know, it's interesting. I would you what do you mean like poetic Like,
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well, when I said poetically that was kind of a metaphor I meant.
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What I meant is are you allowed to do a little bit deeper work,
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a little bit more let's say, uh diagnostic medical diagnostic in terms of
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the client versus more superficial body work. Well so yeah, so not to
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knock the spas because they're amazing, right, and there there's benefits for both.
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Um, what I found those that when I worked at the SPA,
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it was just it is very superficial. It's more of like treatments, body
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scrubs, um, you know, to really get overall relaxation. However,
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when I was at the spas, a lot of times when people would book
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Swedish there still would ask can you give me more pressure? So it was
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like I pretty much was giving a sports massage, whether whether they knew that
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or not, right m And then on the clinical aspect, you know,
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I'm typically working under the direction of the doctor or you know, um,
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either the cairo or physical therapist kind of giving me an idea of like,
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okay, what's going on with a client, this is what we're going to
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focus on. And so therefore I would you know, have a little bit
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more freedom direction. Yeah, okay, so what led you to start your
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own company? Yeah? So, I mean, I you know, I
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realized that, um, so many of my feedback people would say, oh
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my gosh, this is so great, like what is this style? This
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is I feel so amazing. Um, I've never felt this way before,
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you know. And a lot of a lot of these clients they're well traveled,
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right so, um, you know they would they would consider themselves very
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experienced in that in that um receiving end of getting massages, and so you
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know, I start thinking, I've always been an entrepreneurial type of spirit,
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and I realized, you know, I can do this on my own.
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I don't have to work under the premise of someone else. And not that
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I have a problem with it, as I love to actually collaborate with professionals.
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But um, what really pulled me in another direction was the whole CBD
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and THHC aspect of things, where that's what I do. I incorporate that
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it's very you know, kind of niche, right Like I know that it's
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very new right now in today's like just like what's going on with the government
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and everything, but a lot of people are more open to having more holistic
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natural healing, and I was able to find, sorry, my mentor.
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Her name is Liz McDuffie. She's been an activist in legalization since the sixties,
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and you know, I found her program and I got trained under her.
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She's actually recognized through the state of California as an educator in that space,
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and so I took her program and that allowed me to then become a
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cannabist practitioner. So not only am I now like a license massage therapist understanding
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the body, but now I can you know, incorporate natural medicine to elevate
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healing for people. And I thought, hey, you know what, I
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can do this on my own. I approached a few people that I've worked
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in the past, like chiropractors and such, and they're really like, kind
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of skeptical and weird about it, and I said, you know what,
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like, if they don't want to do it, I can. I can
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absolutely get this going for myself. So I did. Well, you say
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that in such a sweet, simple way. But taking that step, as
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we all know, those of us who have taken the entrepreneurial leap, we
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all know that the risk is huge, but the rewards are greater if we
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are diligent and of course succeed. So of course you had to go through
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some leapless nights, I'm sure in terms of getting the funding and all of
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the things that go along with starting your own company, licensing and finding office
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space, signing leases, you know, right, right right, So I'm
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sure that that little simple description is not quite as simple as it really was
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in reality. But congratulations, it's been how many years now? Actually two
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yesterday it was my two year After two year, I saw that, I
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saw that on the internet. I was like, yeah, great for you,
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so excited. Two years and still flying high and growing absolutely well.
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So let's take a moment and talk about the CBD versus the THHC versus cannabis.
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So you know, I spent seven months in helping some friends of mine
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launch a CBD company, and it's my feeling and this is just personal that
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I guess. I feel like CBD is the is the answer because it doesn't
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get you high unless that's what you really want. If you really want to
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get you know, high, then don't go to CBD. But if you
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can do all the same properties of medical marijuana, why wouldn't you and you
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don't want to get high, why wouldn't you just stay with CBD totally?
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So can you tell us what your feelings are about that? Exactly what you
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said? It's really quite simple is that you know, for example, if
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you if you take talannol, right or advil, you would typically take that
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because you have some kind of symptom of pain symptom, whereas with CBD you
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can take it as a supplement, right because naturally we already have inflammation throughout
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our body, you know, with all the acidic foods and whatever else that
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we're putting into our system. CBD really helps offset the inflammation. And as
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we know, inflammation typically leads to disease. So if we have if we're
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able to control the inflammation or body, then we're able to maintain a healthier
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lifestyle. And as to comparison to THHC, you know, dosing can be
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very tricky, so you know, some people have had really adverse effects of
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like edibles. You don't know when it's going to hit you and how much
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to take. You have like a cookie and it's the cookie is amazing,
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and you eat the cookie like a regular cookie, and then it's not a
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regular cookie. You know, so people get very fearful, you know,
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they had one bad experience and they're like never again, you know. And
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not to say that THC is is bad, there's definitely, um it's you
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know, what's really amazing about cannabis these days is it's becoming so much more
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intelligent, whereas you know, you can you can go to someone who's truly
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knowledgeable. You know, like I'm not knocking dispensaries either, but sometimes I
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don't think they have the capacity and the education to really guide someone who's really
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like, hey, I'm new to this and I have these type of ailments
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or this disease, and this is what I want to you know, like
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treat um. And they'll be like, oh, this is great. You
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know, They'll give them like one hundred milligrams of THC and then they don't
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know how to dose it, and then this person is like in the hospital
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the next day. So like, you know, again, with with you
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know, proper education, you can use THHC for sleep, for appetite increase,
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you know, for um. You know a lot of people who do
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have cancer, unfortunately they go through chemo and um um, oh my gosh,
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Cohn radiation and and their and their bodies. Right, they can't stomach
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food, they can't keep it down. So actually THD has these benefits where
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it can help with the nausea, can help it increase their appetite, so
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they want to eat. Keeps them healthy, right, you will. You
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got to nourish the body, especially if you're fighting something so so intense like
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cancer. You know, it's interesting to me that the um cannabinoid system has
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been with us, yes, you know, forever. Why is it all
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of a sudden we're addressing that as a as a modality that we can actually
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control and improve. What what happened to create that that awareness of the cannabinoid
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system and why and there and therefore CBD became such a widespread panacea. Yeah,
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I'm glad you mentioned that because as you as you said, we actually
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have a system. Just like we have a lymphatic system, we have a
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muscular letal system, a nervous system, we have an endocannabinoid system. And
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that system is compatible. It's like the glove that fits with the cannabinoids in
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cannabis. So whether it's CBD, thhc THHCA, CBN, CBG, there's
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literally hundreds of cannabinoids that we're actually not familiar with. UM. It's we're
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still scraping the surface. You know. It's incredible how much research we're already
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retrieving just right now in the very beginning stages, as we are you know,
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allowing the legalization in certain states, and as we continue to really kind
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of you know, put go to the edge, you know, and not
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to the edge where it's like dangerous. It's it's really you know, we're
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always looking for innovation. We're always looking forth better and more effective, right
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in every aspect of the industry. That industry is here. So in the
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health and wellness, if there's other ways that we can have a healthier lifestyle
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without having to constantly be on like medication like you know, um chemically made
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ingredients, then why not. Well, because we know that pharmaceutical drugs have
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their their role to play, particularly in a crisis. However, there are
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always side effects and that's what I think most people get plagued with in terms
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of trying to use them on a routine basis where they can have alternatives and
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not have those side effects. Why not, And you know, the THHC
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versus the CBD, the discussion we're having is really an important one because in
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case anyone doesn't know, the CBD is, I mean, the THHC is,
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the cannabis is the marijuana. The CBD is anything less than point three
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percent THHC. So if you're going to use THHC, it's it had to
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have passed that test in order to be legal. The twenty eighteen Farm Bill
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allows now allows hemp, which is CBD, allows hemp to be crossing state
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lines, It allows the growers to legally grow. It allows banks to accept
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the payments from CBD, but not yet from federally speaking for FDIC banks for
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example, not yet legal with cannabis with the THHC. So it's very important
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people understand that there's still a lot of controversy. The FDA has not yet
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caught up with the Farm Bill, so there's still a lot of disputes and
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debates and misunderstandings and as to hemp and it's it's uses. But hemp has
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been around for thousands of years. It's been used in many, many applications.
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They say something, I think I read six hundred applications. Even the
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Declaration of Independence was written on hemp paper. So you know, here's an
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a you know, an alternat native that is not talk, is non toxic.
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And Andie is using it, and I'm going to let her tell us
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how she uses it in her practice so that if you do decide you want
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to come and book a massage with her, you'll know what to expect.
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So Andie, why don't you tell us where and when you're using the Let's
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focus on the CBD. Awesome. Yeah, and really my practice, I
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do ultimately use CBD. It's very rare that client will come to me and
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want to inquire to get high. Yeah, it's funny because they'll actually say,
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I do want to get high, like no worries that this is why
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I have CBD, you know, and because they haven't tried it before and
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they're a little still apprehensive, but they trust me enough because you know,
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my reviews are great. I said, I would tell them. Don't you
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think if I if I had like someone who had a horrible um like result
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from it, they would you wouldn't be doing it well. They would be
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like blasting me on my you know, yeah, and yelp like all my
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ruds. Thankfully, I have been you know, really positive and I'm so
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grateful for my clients for supporting me in that way and you know, sharing
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their experience. But you know, absolutely if someone had a horrible experience with
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CBD, they would be like, do not take that pill, just say
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no. But but giving them one dose of let's say, a liquid under
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the tongue, you know, just a sublingual one dose in your office isn't
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going to change their lives. So you know, how are they even going
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to know unless they're gonna take it home and start using it and then come
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back to you on a routine basis with that usage. So, um,
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you know, of course, fear is always debilitating, right, and anybody
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that's the unknown can be fearful and so taking something you don't know about.
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Although today I would say CBD has become probably the candy store for um,
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you know, the new hot products, and there's just unfortunately what that produces
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is exactly what you don't want, which is it's not regular, it's not
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a regulated product, and there's a lot of Charlatan's out there, so buy
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or beware on CBG. We've talked about that on other podcasts. But Angie,
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I know, has very carefully selected the two products that she's using in
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her practice. So what are the names of those two if you don't mind
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sharing absolutely um one is Willow Creek Springs. This is the company has been
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around for I think over twenty years and he's been formulating stuff. He uses
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all natural herbs and has a botanical garden and so he does all the blends,
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essential oils, all organic. Both both companies. The other one is
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Quanta UM. I believe was started by X, a former NBL and l
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I n N in a Major League Baseball LB. I can't even yeah,
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okay, so yeah, a Major League Baseball player who had pain correct.
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So Quanta that one, and I love both of them. They work nearly
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the same, both really positive um feedback. My clients are like, oh
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my god, this is awesome? Is it? Both liquid um? So
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Quanta I only use their muscle rub, whereas Willow Creek Springs I use their
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their muscle rub as well the salve um, tinctures, pills um. They
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kind of have a more range of choices in that sense um including pet um
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products. Pet product. Yeah, that's another area that a lot of people
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don't realize that there are a little pet products for for a CBD that have
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been amazingly effective. Really that there's a little science that needs to be addressed
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for just a moment here about CBD, and you know, because scientific studies
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are not as available with products like this yet they're However, with CBD,
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there have been so many scientific studies because of the fact that it's a thousand
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years old and has been used medicinally more recently, I think mainly because of
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when marijuana became legalized in so many states. You know, hemp, CBD
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and hemp, I mean CBD and help marijuana and and and uh CBD are
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part of the same plant. They're like they're like brother and sister. You
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know, they're two parts of the same hemp plant. It's just the difference
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is what I said before, which is one has more higher than point three
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percent THHC and gets you high, and the other one, CBD, of
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course, is below point three percent in order to be legal. So so
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the reason I'm mentioning the scientific is that many people will be hesitant to try
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anything unless they see scientific studies that comes from really the allopathic model of drug,
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you know, going to being approved by the FDA and so forth.
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So, you know, I think because you're not in a regulator in industry,
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like supplements, CBD you know normally wouldn't have that much, but it
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just turns out that there are many, many scientific studies and so what happens
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is there's different parts of the plant, and you know, you can talk
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to people about how much isolate do you have, how much pure CBD is,
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how many milligrams of pure cbd and so andy. When you do your
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research on which products to use, do you ask the manufacturers those questions about
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whether it's pure cbd, whether it's mixed with isolate? How do you decide?
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Yeah, I mean, you know, honestly, it's really just like
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the response for my clients as well as my own like what I feel,
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and I just make sure that I use all organic and that's really what matters
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to me. You know, everyone has their own like preference in terms of
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like full spectrum isolate, you know, and so forth. But for me,
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you know, I just I just got lucky to be honest and I
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I stay, you know, true and loyal to the ones that like there's
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no there's no reason for me to leave or kind of venture out. Although
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I know there are other absolutely great, amazing products, it's just there's so
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many right, And I know that's also been an issue for a lot of
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people. They're like, I tried this and this one I wasn't necessarily happy
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with, or you know, versus like another brand. So they always ask
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me, like what I like best, But of course these are mainly the
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two that I work with, and I know, so you know, maybe
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it's a little biased, but it's also it's also the truth, you know
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what I mean. So right now, that's fine. And I think in
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case you didn't catch one of our podcasts, Andrea, I'll send you the
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tape of sun i Q is the company that I was a part of for
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seven months and they're still really active in the extraction part. They're not the
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retailers, so they're they're very essential to the end product. And we talked
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on that podcast with the CEO and the president, William Ossolino and Joel Rosenberg,
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and we discussed the couple of companies that we thought were efficacious. One
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one is called Quicksilver, and the founder of that company is doctor Chris Shade.
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You can look him up. And I know I mentioned it to you
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on the phone because I said, you know, I'm not trying to sell
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you on quicksilver, but I think you should look at them. They have
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a nanotechnology absorption that is I think beyond compare. And I hear so much
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good feedback from people who have tried there, and it's their product is sublingual,
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so it's liquid. You put it under your you put it in your
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mouth. You don't even have to put it under your tongue, just put
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it in your mouth, keep it there for like sixty seconds and then swallow.
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And so anyway, um, just a little you know, broadening of
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awareness because there are so many companies out there today. So let's go to
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the modalities. And I know that you promised me and I'm really looking forward
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to this a little sample so our viewers can understand how you work. And
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I'm going to be your victim today. Yeay, yay. I haven't had
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a massage in a long time, so this will be fun. But before
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we get to that, let's talk about the different modalities. If I walk
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into your office, so one of our viewers walks in, and what are
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they? What's going to happen to them? How do they how do you
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get to know me or them? And how do you then apply what you
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learn verbally into the actual session the treatment right, Well, first and foremost,
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of course, I'd like to know what it is that they're in to
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see me for. So then I'll kind of get an understanding us see there,
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you know, like postural structure, and then i'll you know, give
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them I'll start off with the dose of the CBD. I actually don't do
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a sublingual. I do a pill form. It's twenty five milligrams, which
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is a nice dose. Um, it'll definitely most people will feel something by
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the end of the session, like extremely relax um, euphoric, all that
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good stuff. And then so of course then I'll proceed to the massage and
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what I'll typically do is locate the trigger points. You know sometimes if people
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typically people will say neck and shoulders right, or a lot of times their
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shoulders are pulled forward. So I love this saying. One of my clients
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said this, and it's so like it's everything. She said, it's the
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victim who always screams, and not the culprit. So the victim being your
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neck and shoulders, and the creator of that is your chest. Right.
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So I don't just deal with the main area. I deal with what's around
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it, what is affecting those areas. It's kind of like the lower back
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is affected by the core, and most people don't handed most people don't realize,
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you know, you gotta you need to strengthen your core and your hamstrings
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if you're having lower back problems because it's not localized just to the lower back.
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So this is all like full body integration, right. And that's why
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trigger point therapy for me is super effective because I locate all the you know,
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what's triggering this ear. So if it's you know, sometimes it's even
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the lats, or it's like you know, down in these certain areas that
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kind of are overlooked or even like in them the edge of the outer edge
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of the scapula, all those muscles there. I won't throw the medical terms
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because we'd be like what, but you know, it's basically outer of the
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shoulders, um. And so I just do a very clean, thorough sweep
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of all those areas using trigger point therapy mild fashion release ACU pressure and some
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stretching to get that range of motion back and bring your body back into alignment.
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So define trigger point. Yeah, So, um, it's basically an
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area that has been collecting a lot of tension right, so like basically like
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an overused, overused muscle. Right. So again the neck and shoulders,
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like your traps would be, there'd be trigger points there, your rhomboids,
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the trigger point you know, I mean, it could honestly almost be any
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were but it's based on the person's like movements, on where you know,
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how they are using their body particularly, which is why I typically do a
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very customized treatment for everybody, you know, based on what they're here to
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see me for. So they do fill out an application when they first come
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in, and then you talk to them. You have a consultation before they
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ever get on the table, and that's where all those questions that you're you're
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gathering information about what it is they want to fix, and what if somebody
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comes in and says everything when they do, do they absolutely okay? So
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you have your challenges in front of you, So how do you how do
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you focus? Like I know there are some areas that are going to help
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the other areas, like you just talked about the culprit and the victim,
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So how do you know what order of events and how do you attack that?
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Sure? So, of course, first and foremost I would say,
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you know depending on how much time we have together. I do as much
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as I can to cover. However, if it really is a more you
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know, severe condition where like sometimes like intuitively it's like I can't leave that
27:06
area, you know, I don't feel like it's complete yet, so I'll
27:08
stay there until I feel like it's effective enough that I can proceed. So
27:14
they're they're usually okay with that. I'll communicate that with them, so that
27:17
you don't have expectations like you didn't hit my feet and I tell you to
27:18
get my feet. You know that means you have to come back? Yeah,
27:22
and I mean and you know, of course, I again, I
27:25
do as much as I can. Sometimes I'm able to actually get the addressed
27:27
them all. But if something is really like major and I can tell and
27:32
I'll talk to them about it, they're like, no, no, no,
27:33
for sure. Just as long as do this mainly, that's really that's
27:37
most important to me. But if you can get other things and great,
27:38
If not like they first of all, of course, they're usually happy with
27:41
their treatments, so they are more than okay to come back. But you
27:45
know, of course, if they're not happy with it, though, is
27:48
it an hour? How long does it. It's a treatment. Typically on
27:52
average, I'll say, you know, sixty minutes. Some clients will do
27:55
ninety minutes, and then every now and then I'll have someone do a two
27:57
hour session. I also have shorter you know sessions as well in case some
28:02
people either if they're limited with funds or limited with time and they just really
28:04
want to get that particular concern taken care of, then I can absolutely be
28:10
effective in thirty minutes. Oh wow, I don't see how anyone could ever
28:14
do thirty minutes. I'd be like, right even yeah, now it's a
28:18
teaser enough for absolutely for sure. So okay, you said MYO fascial trigger
28:25
point. What what are some other accupressure, accupressure, stretching. Those are
28:30
the four main modalities that you that you would say you employ. Correct.
28:36
Have you ever done loami loami? You know what I do? Incorporate some
28:40
loami loami in there. It's the Hawaiian you know kind of yep. Well,
28:45
because I lived in Hawaii, lived and worked in Hawaii for you know,
28:48
a good part of my life. Uh, you know that is like
28:53
one of the most important healing healing modalities is loami loami massade, and so
29:00
I just wondered if anyone in your practice here has ever asked you to do
29:04
Lomi lomi because they've had it done there. No, it's funny, they
29:08
don't ask me. But I actually do incorporate, particularly with the feet.
29:11
So I'll rock their feet by the heels and it literally right, it travels
29:15
up their own entire bodies. So they're just like rocking. They're like and
29:18
they're like, oh my god, that's feel so good. I'm like,
29:19
isn't it incredible how just the like slightest rocking motion can just you know,
29:25
create so much Yeah, I realized it well because really is symbolic of Hawaii
29:30
and the sense of the aloha spirit. And basically what you are doing is
29:36
you are cradling or nurturing the person with love, and that loving energy is
29:42
amazingly healing, which we all know that. You know, love is everything
29:47
in life. So you know, when you do the treatments that way and
29:52
you show them that kind of energetic aloha, it's amazing how effective that could
29:59
be. And you know, there are so many different types of loamy practitioners,
30:03
but the bottom line of it all I think is that cradling of like
30:08
you said, you know, taking the feet and rubbing them, and the
30:11
feet of course have such amazing nerve endings, right exactly, So if we're
30:18
going to do a little treatment today, let's let's do it, let's do
30:22
it now. While about halfway through our discussion, and tell me, like
30:29
you walked in the room, I had just finished another podcast and you probably
30:33
sized me up and said, okay, this is what I need to do
30:37
for this woman. She needs help. So what is it that you size
30:42
up so we know what you're going to attack when we do our little our
30:47
little victim and culprit expression here. Yeah, um, I mean I would
30:52
kind of just you know, scan your posture and see like what's going on.
30:56
But I've of course been asking like where you typically feel pain. Then
31:00
I'll kind of take a look and seeing what's going on, and then it
31:03
it will give me an idea like of the landscape, so to speak,
31:07
and then how I would approach it. We might be a little limited since
31:10
we have a chair massage versus an actual table, like Sophie told me,
31:14
hips like, I don't know what I could actually really have a chair,
31:17
But you know, okay, the good news for you is I don't have
31:19
any pain. I'm a I'm an athlete. I'm totally totally blessed. Okay,
31:26
So what I like is the sports massage because it loosens me up.
31:30
And of course I'm on the phone and the computer and doing podcasts and then
31:34
you know, the driving, and so there's always going to be that deeper
31:38
tension. I think some people just have an ability to um camouflage, no,
31:45
to camout no one know. I meant, in my case, before
31:48
I get to what you're going to do, but to camouflage that expression of
31:52
pain by just being like powering through it without any evidence of it. Do
32:00
you ever find people like that in your practice. I am so glad you
32:02
pointed that out, because that's literally, like I would say, ninety five
32:07
percent of my clients really, my god, Yeah, because they're powering through
32:10
the They don't they don't want to feel any weakness, right because we're here,
32:15
we are in the society where we're like in this go go go exactly,
32:20
you know, like get things done, suck it up, many you
32:23
gotta you know you got this, and we literally forget, like we don't
32:28
pay attention to the signs. It's like something as simple as and I'll say
32:30
this to my clients. I'm like, how many times have you been like,
32:32
oh my god, have to go to the bathroom and you're like,
32:35
I can hold it. And then you're like two or three hours ago,
32:37
buy you're like, oh my god, I have to go to the bathroom,
32:39
right, and you're like dark. And then when you get close and
32:42
you can't even hold it anymore, right, you know, soon as you
32:45
get close to home, right, yeah, yeah, exactly, so you're
32:47
like you're like dying, right, like, oh my god, I gotta
32:50
go so bad. Yeah. Well, it's same, the same thing,
32:52
Like you feel the pain, you're like, oh what is this And you're
32:54
like, you know what, I'm ignored. I got shipped to do forgetting
32:59
my language. I got I got work to do. I'm busy, you
33:00
know. And then and then you forget about it and it happens over and
33:05
over and over, and you're collecting and collecting and all of a sudden you're
33:07
like, I can't move my neck. Yeah help. There is that There
33:10
is that aspect to you if you sleep wrong or you do some exercise that
33:15
tweaks you that part of it. But I think on the day to day
33:17
basis. Part of it is what you just described. It's our ability to
33:22
um basically just ignore and to just accept. Maybe maybe that's a better way
33:29
accepting. The only way I really know when I have pain is when I
33:32
have a massage. So here you go. We're gonna do a little sample
33:36
and Tony's gonna get the cameras so that can we can show a little bit
33:40
of what you do. All right, So let me see how I get
33:44
on your chair? Should I m tell me where I should move the chair?
33:52
Perfect? And I'm going to try to do this with a lady and
33:55
I'll screen you then ye okay, okay, so you describe what you're doing
34:02
while we're doing it, and Tony's gonna do the canvas of people. Okay,
34:07
Well you want to tell me, like, if you have any I
34:08
should take this off? I say, yeah, so that you can get
34:12
into the to the body more. Yes, okay, so I'm trying to
34:17
I'm not fine. I don't know if I can talk while I do this,
34:20
Tony, so you might have to be Yeah, this time you can
34:22
just relax. Might Yeah, we might. We're gonna We're gonna let me
34:27
do this. Let Handy talk okay, right, all right, sure,
34:37
that's cool. All right. So, as Michelle said, she she's not
34:45
necessarily feeling any pain, but you know, she'll typically feel it when I
34:49
get there. And I can already tell that the shoulders are a little tight
34:52
and hear the front front shoulders are being pulled a little bit, and that's
34:57
natural, right, because we're a forward moving species. Um. So typically
35:02
I'll just you know, feel around. And it's a little different because I'm
35:06
not I don't have the salve right now with me that I'm you know,
35:08
they get to use. But I'll just kind of probe and feel here and
35:13
just follow it along. Right. What did I say about no pain,
35:16
right? Exactly? It's fair, right, And then so i'll i'll use
35:24
so just couldn't relax to be dead weight, see, so I'll anchor like
35:31
the muscles that are usually being moved, just be dead weight. Drop drop,
35:36
yeah good. See. So even in this instance, Michelle, even
35:39
though she's getting the massage, she's not knowing how to actually fully relax,
35:43
which a lot of us do you know, we do that too. We're
35:45
like kind of yeah, good, let's see. So I'm like around the
35:52
edge of the scapula, and I'll do some like see this is like more
35:54
like a trigger point or acute pressure style, and then I'm stretching it,
36:01
pulling the shoulder back. Can you just relax treatment right, yes, exactly,
36:10
and like learning to relax as well as an art. Right, some
36:14
people are like I am relaxed, and actually they're not, and they don't
36:17
even realize that they're not relaxed, right exactly, so and probably many other
36:24
viewers as well. So then sometimes two, I'll use like my elbow and
36:30
then I'll just sink in right, so I don't go into aggressively but a
36:35
gradual it's gentle, but it's firm. And then I'll make sure that you're
36:38
nice and relaxed, and then do like some kind of range of motion right
36:45
like typically this is the kind of movement you would do with your arm,
36:52
right right, They're right, just yeah, that see exactly. That's what
37:01
happens though. It's the that's the mile fascial release release you see. The
37:06
fascia is so like built up or like you know, yeah, and then
37:10
you just move it around and get it to flow and then boom, You're
37:15
like it's getting back into alignment of well, I feel it. Now I'm
37:19
going to be all loose on this side right and not on that side exactly,
37:23
So thank you so much. So now we all have a little sampling
37:32
of what to expect and I can tell you I need it, and aye,
37:38
why don't you tell us what you would do now if I were coming
37:42
into for a treatment now now that you had a little yes, what would
37:45
you say? What would you do? Well? Yes, I would absolutely
37:46
focus on your your shoulders, but also I didn't get a chance to really
37:51
feel the chest area right because again typically I saw that your shoulders are being
37:54
pulled forward a little, which I've got to remember to get my shoulders back.
38:00
All of us have to do that, right, So, like you
38:01
know, in like outside of the table or the you know, getting massage,
38:07
I would obviously suggest like, you know, doing a lot of rows.
38:10
Yeah, strengthening the back so you're really nice upright and not, you
38:15
know, because it's so strong here that the back muscles cannot They're like trying,
38:20
but they can't. You know. That's why you naturally it's like,
38:22
oh this feels good because I'm relaxed, right exactly. But once we get
38:25
the back muscles to be stronger, relax can still look like this. I
38:31
love this, This is so good. Well, I think that I'm I'm
38:37
I'm a victim. She can't talk right now. She is like, I
38:42
think she finally found me to be able to relax a little bit. That
38:45
was just like a minute. Yeah, I know that that one minute can
38:47
make the whole difference in what is that book? The One Minute Manager?
38:52
Remember that? And so you know the one minute Massage? Well, I
38:54
think I found some answers there that are very important. And all of us,
39:00
all of us, there isn't one exception. Correct need to get some
39:05
body work, and many of us avoid that because we are so busy and
39:08
we always have an excuse and we'd rather go exercise and get treatment, right,
39:14
isn't that true? Absolutely? And sometimes it's actually counterproductive. Right,
39:19
If you're tight and have this pain, you go and work out, you're
39:22
only making it worse. And then then you have kind of have to face
39:25
the music anyway, So you might as well come in, right, So
39:30
okay, So I don't want to run out of time and not have a
39:32
chance for people to know what you can offer to them if they want to
39:37
come and see you. So let's talk a little bit about what you would
39:39
like to offer the ageless and timeless viewers, and me included yes, and
39:46
how they can get the CBD products if they want to do that, starting
39:51
right away before they even come and see you. So why don't you take
39:53
over and tell us what your thoughts are there? Thank you? So basically
39:59
I'm offering a twenty percent discount on your first session. Um, and then
40:02
you know, moving forward, a half packages available, which are you know,
40:07
very significant. Uh. And you can find my products on my website
40:12
which is at www dot myo. That's m yo. The word evolution LA
40:16
is in Los Angeles dot com, so www dot myo evolution dot com.
40:23
Yeah, Mayo is actually the root word for muscle. So I wanted to
40:28
really ensure that I created a name that wasn't like happy massage, you know,
40:31
like you know, like so not that is nothing wrong with a happy
40:37
massage. But um, you know you're you're at another level. Yeah,
40:40
I can feel you have very very powerful hands. Thank you. Yes,
40:45
and and um, so, evolution is constant change. Our bodies are constantly
40:49
changing, right, so you know, whether it's from good to bad or
40:52
bad to good, but we can always be changing for the better like that
40:57
a lot awesome than for twenty percent is the normal fee for a ninety minute
41:02
or sixty minutes? Yeah, for sixty minutes typically it's one hundred an hour,
41:06
which is very affordable. Still, yeah, and everyone it's like,
41:10
you got to increase your prices, And honestly, maybe I will in the
41:13
future, but right now, what's important for me is really getting the work
41:17
out there and the word out there and my results right because I know that
41:21
the average person working American may not be able to afford one hundred an hour
41:25
every week, and I want them to be consistent. So my packages can
41:30
really support that kind of lifestyle where you know, the middle class American can
41:34
absolutely afford seeing me on a consistent basis. So for eighty dollars you can
41:38
ageless viewers can come ageless, and timeless viewers can come to you and try
41:43
you for a one hour and then ninety minutes would be how much? So
41:46
that would be so it's one forty Do I think that's like twenty six?
41:52
Yeah? Fourteen times she is twenty eight, right, so it would be
41:54
twenty eight dollars off of one hundred. Yeah, yeah, okay, good,
42:00
And then what's your address. I'm at eight thousand West Sunset Boulevard.
42:06
I'm actually inside the Salon Republic where there's a lot of little private studios.
42:09
Yeah, it's on the second floor of that center, and I'm Studio twenty
42:14
two. So does that mean they can park in the building and get a
42:17
validation for the ninety minutes. Yeah, which is amazing because you know,
42:22
in La parking is like it's gold right and people will like veer away because
42:25
you're parking sucks totally. So that's why that's why I could never go.
42:30
I never go to Venice for any you know, I love Venice, but
42:32
you know, where do you Park's a handache in itself. They're gonna get
42:37
stressed out just coming to me exactly. So you're so lucky that you have
42:40
Basically they just drive right in, they get a ticket and bring it to
42:44
you validate it. Oh my gosh. There's even street parking that's really easy
42:47
too, Like it's it's like no brainer and it's easy location to find.
42:52
Yeah. Okay, so that's the massage. Now what about the CBD.
42:55
Yeah, so the CBD same thing, you know, twenty percent off.
43:00
Can get it online on my website as I mentioned, so they have to
43:04
put you in an age list or do they call you and you know that
43:07
the yeah, they could call um, I'm not you know, I can
43:09
see if they we could put a code a code that yeah they say that,
43:13
which way we can okay that out? Okay, well for now,
43:16
just to begin with, because we're putting our that kind of technology into our
43:21
website as well. For your sake, I would say, maybe people could
43:24
just call you and say, hey, I want to book a treatment with
43:28
you, and I'd like to order some of your CBD right now, and
43:30
I can always email me that text you yeah and let them let me know
43:36
that it was from from here. Okay, perfect, And then the other
43:38
thing would be um, just in the final like a few seconds that we
43:45
have here, let's say minute, um, the difference between a massage therapist
43:50
and a healer, which is what I let off with, can you give
43:52
us what the differences and what you are? Yeah? Absolutely? Well,
43:58
you know what, what is amazing that people would actually tell me right,
44:01
So it's not even me saying I am this healer. People are like,
44:05
you know, you are more than a massage therapist, You're you're a healer.
44:07
I feel your energy. I feel what you do like they feel me
44:10
feeling their body right with care, like you you touch base on like loami
44:15
loami. Well, like that's literally what I do from the very second you
44:19
walk in, Like you feel a sense of care of me, listening,
44:22
paying attention car you know, like really wanting to be effective. And I
44:24
think that's so important. I'm not just you know, okay, come in,
44:28
what do you want right, you know, go through the motions and
44:30
like thank you. You know. It's very much like a relationship that we
44:35
create. I create a safe space, you know. I make sure that
44:38
I'm like, yes, I'm getting in there, but I'm not killing you
44:42
either. There's a difference too where people get like these deep tissue massages and
44:45
then they leave worse than they came in. That's absolutely not the case,
44:51
totally, Like I'm here to really be of service, to listen and care
44:54
for people's needs. So that I think set you apart, not I think,
44:59
I know. Yeah, And that's what I'd like to end on that
45:00
note, because I think that I know that we have met somebody today,
45:07
and of course I've talked to Andrew long before she came on today, so
45:10
I you know, I was very, very discerning and who I wanted to
45:15
express this modality because it is one of the Ageless and Timeless product or modality
45:23
protocol offering. So I want you to all to know that this is a
45:30
very unique young lady and she will show you that as soon as you walk
45:35
in her door, and I think you'll be very happy. And we're not
45:37
trying to sell her. We're just trying to tell you and share with you
45:40
our knowledge and our information so that you get greater awareness. And that's what
45:45
we're all about here at Ageless and Timeless. So thank you for joining us,
45:50
and okay, you take care too well. In the very beginning of
46:07
this podcast, I told you my goals, and that is to make you
46:12
aware of the people and the events and the services and the products that we
46:21
believe are going to make a difference in your life and so that you can
46:24
be Ageless and Timeless live longer, and not only longer, but more quality
46:30
in your years of existence. So I think today, I keep saying,
46:36
I think I know today that you were introduced to someone who would make a
46:40
difference in your life. And I can't wait to go have a treatment with
46:44
her now that I've got my little sampling because I can tell that she has
46:47
healing hands. And so anyway, we thank Angie for coming on the show,
46:53
and we'll welcome your comments back after you've met with her and get some
47:00
feedback to me. So Ageless and Timeless dot com is the website, and
47:06
I'm Michelle Hughes and thank you for joining us today. Just