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MJD on Jaguars ownership & Travis Etienne's importance | The O-Zone Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome inte this week's ozone podcast from the
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  Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, and we're joined by you know,
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  Speaker 1: all jack Horse fans know him. Most of them love him.
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  Speaker 1: It's a former jack Horse most of the back. And
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  Speaker 1: you've already heard the voice, uh Morise Jones, Drew you
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  Speaker 1: get most not all. Well, yeah, some people want to
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  Speaker 1: two something dislike me. I almost all love him, love you,
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  Speaker 1: So that's okay. I guess all is a lot. I
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  Speaker 1: try to be like ninety eight percent though most of
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  Speaker 1: my stuff, well that's fair, okay, I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 1: You always signed for everybody, so they love you. I
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  Speaker 1: tried to most tell me your feelings watching this team
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  Speaker 1: this year, you know, very first thing, because I talked
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  Speaker 1: to you late in the season on drivetime, so so
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  Speaker 1: excited for this team. Um. I got a chance earlier
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  Speaker 1: in the year before they hired Doug Peterson to sit
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  Speaker 1: down with Shot and kind of just over the phone
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  Speaker 1: and we talked for a couple of hours just kind
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  Speaker 1: of what was going on, and you know, he was
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to give him my opinion, right as
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  Speaker 1: someone in the in the national media that has you know, resources,
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  Speaker 1: probably some like he or less than he he has.
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  Speaker 1: But people, yeah, people will tell me something that they
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  Speaker 1: won't tell him. And I just wanted to give him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my take on kind of the situation, especially
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  Speaker 1: after what happened with Urban and and UM. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he was like, well, look, you know, these are the
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  Speaker 1: guys that we have. And I threw out some guys
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  Speaker 1: and we chopped it up for a couple of a
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  Speaker 1: couple of hours, and UM really excited what he was
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  Speaker 1: thinking about and who he was listening to UM and
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  Speaker 1: his decision process of it. And so when they hired
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  Speaker 1: when the Jacks hired Doug Peterson, I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: one of the best hires you could have, UM, because
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  Speaker 1: you needed that coming from It's kind of like it's
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  Speaker 1: not polar opposers, but it is polar opposers, right, Like
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  Speaker 1: Doug is not Urban. Yeah. What I what I mean
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  Speaker 1: by polar is this you're still held to a high standard,
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  Speaker 1: but the way it comes across isn't like is um
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the word is, but it's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: collegiate or as aggressive right UM. And then you get
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  Speaker 1: the aspect of you get a guy who who's won
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  Speaker 1: the championships, so he has credit already pulled in. You
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  Speaker 1: get a guy who's played in the National Football League,
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  Speaker 1: you get a guy who's coached some of the best players,
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  Speaker 1: has been around some of the best coaches. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: a players guy, right, And I know he's a I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if he still does the ice cream thing,
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  Speaker 1: but like that was just something light that kind of
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  Speaker 1: lightened the room when Trevor, I know, when he did
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  Speaker 1: his introductory press conference, Trevor was there like all right,
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  Speaker 1: let's go get some ice cream. Like those are things
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  Speaker 1: that because this is supposed to be fun, yeah, relatable, right,
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  Speaker 1: and it just it kind of allows you still to
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  Speaker 1: be a person and not you know, just a coach, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so that was I would think that was a
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  Speaker 1: huge process. And not only that, Um, Doug came into
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  Speaker 1: a situation where he had to he had to rehab
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  Speaker 1: a lot of mentality. Mentality, right, there was so much
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  Speaker 1: trauma from the year before of all the things that
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  Speaker 1: was going on that we we heard about that came
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  Speaker 1: out in the national media, and I know there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things that probably didn't come on the national
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  Speaker 1: media at the time, um that came out later. But
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of rehabbing of mentality and trust
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  Speaker 1: and therapy and a lot of things that you had
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  Speaker 1: to have a coach. I was willing to do that.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds easy. Yeah, it's always trust. No, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, you have to have those. Uh, something
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  Speaker 1: has to happen for me to see in trust and
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  Speaker 1: believe in you. Um and so I think again, Doug
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  Speaker 1: came in and he did an awesome job of just
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  Speaker 1: getting Trevor Lawrence. And the one thing I truly I
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  Speaker 1: talked about this with a shod was that you know
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  Speaker 1: your quarterback, you have a young quarterback, you got to
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  Speaker 1: put as many resources around him as possible. And what
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  Speaker 1: I meant by that was he needed a quarterback coach.
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  Speaker 1: He needed an OC. He needed a head coach that
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  Speaker 1: that new quarterback play. He needed a guy in the
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  Speaker 1: room that's played. I mean, he needed guys you can link. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: here goes a number. You could call this guy too
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  Speaker 1: to help you because he's a young guy and they're
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  Speaker 1: so impressionable at that point, especially in the in the
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  Speaker 1: in our NFL that he you know, there are some
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  Speaker 1: times in the in the season, and I'll tell you this,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy. I remember this in London, they run sprint
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  Speaker 1: right option. He throws a pick and people were tearing
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  Speaker 1: them up about it. And the thing about it was
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  Speaker 1: that was a great opportunity for Doug to go in
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  Speaker 1: and there beat the therapist right, to go in and
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  Speaker 1: help him work through that. They come back the next week.
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  Speaker 1: I can think agains the Texans and they run the
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  Speaker 1: same play. But guess what he does, throws it out
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  Speaker 1: of bounce. It wasn't there. He made the right decision.
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  Speaker 1: And so and that is in that to me, was
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  Speaker 1: the most important thing of the season. That those two
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  Speaker 1: plays were more important than the Chiefs game. They were
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  Speaker 1: more important than anything else because you allowed Trevor to
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  Speaker 1: make a mistake, you coached him through it, you didn't
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  Speaker 1: rate him, you didn't beat him down or wherever you
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  Speaker 1: did to make him feel comfortable, and you called it
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  Speaker 1: again and he made the right play. Right now now
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  Speaker 1: we can work on Now we can move on to
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  Speaker 1: the next thing. And so that's what you started to
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  Speaker 1: see throughout the season with everybody though, but that was
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  Speaker 1: just obviously one example. Then you started to see the defense, right,
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  Speaker 1: the defense was given up some here there they play well,
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  Speaker 1: they're back and forth then they started to tighten down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Um you started to see guys show
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  Speaker 1: up and make plays and guys are excited to come
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  Speaker 1: to work, and you started to hear all these positive
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  Speaker 1: things come out. And that's what a head coach is.
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  Speaker 1: I always tell people, as a head coach, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you could be a play caller if you want to,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean some a lot of guys do that,
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  Speaker 1: and you hire guys for that. With that guy, it's
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  Speaker 1: the big picture. It's the it's the coach, the mentor,
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  Speaker 1: the therapists, the problem solver. UH. Making sure that you
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  Speaker 1: know everybody is on the same page, from the training staff,
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  Speaker 1: the equipment staff, the medical staff, like everything. You have
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  Speaker 1: to have a program vision, a program builder, which is
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  Speaker 1: what they thought they were getting with Urban, right, but
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  Speaker 1: you now have that and Doug and to see you know,
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  Speaker 1: to add the right pieces and free agency, to work
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  Speaker 1: with Trent Balky and add the right pieces and to
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  Speaker 1: be able to utilize those guys the right way. And
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  Speaker 1: and you know, to me, that was that's huge. You
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  Speaker 1: mentioned talking to Shod for a long time last off season.
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  Speaker 1: Tell fans maybe something about shot uh that you've learned
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  Speaker 1: during that You know there's a perception sometimes that he's
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  Speaker 1: not engaged with the team, and it couldn't be. It
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  Speaker 1: couldn't be farther from the truth. But it's been out
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  Speaker 1: there in the past. From your conversation with him, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's not my first one either, Like we've had multiple conversations.
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  Speaker 1: His level of commitment. He wants to win and he'll
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  Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to win. And you've seen that,
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  Speaker 1: UM with the Urban Meyer situation, given them the big contract,
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  Speaker 1: you know, building the facility that they're building right now,
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  Speaker 1: like all those things, or to do whatever he feels
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  Speaker 1: is necessary to win. When he first came to Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get into the conversation we had. But the first building,
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  Speaker 1: the first time he came to Jacksonville, he built the
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  Speaker 1: whole locker room, switched everything up right. It looked like
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  Speaker 1: a spat Like he told us, like, listen to my
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  Speaker 1: job is to make you as comfortable as possible to
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  Speaker 1: perform at your best. UM. And then talking with him,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's not only that part of it as from
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  Speaker 1: a player side, now coming from a media side or
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  Speaker 1: someone that's trying to help build or whatever it may be. Um,
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  Speaker 1: he listens and I think that's the most important. When
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  Speaker 1: you have a lot of money, you don't listen to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it, At least I wouldn't, right. I
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  Speaker 1: barely now, not as much as him. I barely listen
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  Speaker 1: to people now with the little money I have now.
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  Speaker 1: But if I had his money, I wouldn't listen to anyone.
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  Speaker 1: But to listen and to try to understand and to
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  Speaker 1: try to take what you're hearing and all this information
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  Speaker 1: you're getting and then be able to make a sound decision.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough to do, and so that to me is everything, right.
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  Speaker 1: Like he he wants what's best for his guys, and
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  Speaker 1: we talked about it. He was like, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to have the number one pick ever again. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I get that, but right now you do.
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  Speaker 1: So let's figure out who the best player is and
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  Speaker 1: let's make this thing work, to build this roster the
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  Speaker 1: way it needs to be. Um And you know, in
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  Speaker 1: my mind, again this is me. I told him. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I wouldn't be ashamed if you had the
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  Speaker 1: number one pick again. I would just want to acquire
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  Speaker 1: as much lens I can at this point, because so
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  Speaker 1: much was you know, people have depleted this roster. Every
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  Speaker 1: time you have a new GM, a new head coach
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  Speaker 1: and knew something, it's turnover, right, And so there's so
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  Speaker 1: many times that guys have turned over, from Jalen Ramsey
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  Speaker 1: to Klais Campbell to Yunike and Gockway to Leonard Fournette,
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  Speaker 1: all these guys that you've had that were that are
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  Speaker 1: really good players and one elsewhere you had right here
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  Speaker 1: in the building. And so it's like you want to
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  Speaker 1: keep those guys and find a way to keep those
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  Speaker 1: guys and have that consistency. But it all starts with
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  Speaker 1: picking the right guy, right. You got to pick the
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  Speaker 1: right head coach first, and then the right head coach
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  Speaker 1: has to be able to handle, you know, different personalities
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  Speaker 1: and different expectations, and they, you know, have to be
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  Speaker 1: able to smooth over some things and know how to
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  Speaker 1: push and lean on people. And so that was like,
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  Speaker 1: that was the big topic. But to me, the biggest
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  Speaker 1: thing was he wants to win and he's been learning
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  Speaker 1: throughout talking to different people what it takes to win.
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  Speaker 1: And it takes longer to be a good NFL owner
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  Speaker 1: than people realize. I've always thought it's a hard thing
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  Speaker 1: because they come in and they haven't done this before. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I always always go back to Bill Belichick and the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: I remember I was in the upfront office one time
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  Speaker 1: we're playing and I looked up on the wall because
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't a big like NFL fan growing up. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I looked him on the wall and they were like,
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  Speaker 1: they're selling the Patriots in nineteen ninety four, right, like,
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  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Right? Like? And then Robert Kraft
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  Speaker 1: buys him and he's supposed to be moving them and
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  Speaker 1: they're talking about them moving then all right, it was
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  Speaker 1: it was a lot of kale and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, boom, got the right coach, got the right quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: things took off. You're a pretty good owner, right, You're
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  Speaker 1: a great owner. Right, And so to me, it takes
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  Speaker 1: time to get that and what shots on the team
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  Speaker 1: since went ten years now? Eleven years? Twelve to eat? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so so eleven years and it takes time to do that. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And so over time you're gonna learn, and you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: learn the business. He's a very smart guy. I mean
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  Speaker 1: everyone probably knows his Backstory's very smart, understands h a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different things. And we've had conversations about that
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  Speaker 1: as well. Um, this is just a different business and
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  Speaker 1: it takes times. It takes you know, time to be successful.
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  Speaker 1: And he's done a great job of being patient one
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  Speaker 1: and learning from his mistakes, learning from others mistakes, and
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  Speaker 1: then learning from his successes as well, and asking some
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  Speaker 1: team specific stuff because it struck me when we talked
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  Speaker 1: to you in January, it struck me you really followed
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  Speaker 1: this Jaguars team always. You followed him closely, and you
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  Speaker 1: were down in in the weeds with him a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me your impressions of Travis etn and how much
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  Speaker 1: better can he get, because feeling around the franchise is
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of room for growth there, Oh, no question.
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  Speaker 1: I think. Well, first I'll say this, to draft him
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  Speaker 1: might have been the best thing that urban did, one
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  Speaker 1: of the guest things, one of the best things that
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  Speaker 1: he did, some other good things. Well, you're running backs,
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  Speaker 1: you thought, no, I just thought that they should have
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  Speaker 1: taken him one. No, no, no, no, I thought they
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  Speaker 1: should have took Trevor one. But I think when you
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  Speaker 1: have a guy like that, it's important to take a
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  Speaker 1: guy that helps him feel comfortable, right that the guy
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  Speaker 1: that checked down that he could feel comftable a guy
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  Speaker 1: he's used to handing off those those things matter, right,
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  Speaker 1: then getting him and then getting a guy from Alabama
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  Speaker 1: him and a guy in Michigan, then you have to
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  Speaker 1: work on their chemistry. They already have that, right, and
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to build that program, that winning culture that
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  Speaker 1: they had at Clemson. You're trying to build that here.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought that was awesome at to start that
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  Speaker 1: he hurts his foot, um, and so I was a
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  Speaker 1: little concerned because that was the injury that kind of
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  Speaker 1: took me out right. Um. The difference is he was younger, right,
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  Speaker 1: didn't have many miles on his body, and he had
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  Speaker 1: a whole all season to train because he was very
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  Speaker 1: thin when he came in. He wasn't as big as
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  Speaker 1: bulky as he is now. He's he's bulk here, and
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  Speaker 1: he can handle. Yeah, he can handle. He can handle
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  Speaker 1: the contact. You could tell by you know, he still
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  Speaker 1: gets hit sometimes. But so my thing about him is
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  Speaker 1: he's explosive. He can take it to the distance anywhere
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  Speaker 1: what you want, which which threatens the defense. He catched
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  Speaker 1: the while of the backfield. Um. I think that he's
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  Speaker 1: getting much better on the short yardage running, and I
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  Speaker 1: think he can get better a short yardage goal line guy. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's done a really good job in pass protection.
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  Speaker 1: He could get better at that. UM. And I think
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  Speaker 1: as the season goes along and the way they run
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  Speaker 1: the ball and how they run the ball, he's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna take many this head on collisions, right, it's not
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  Speaker 1: I formation downhill is more zone and that fits what
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  Speaker 1: he did in calls, and that fit's what he does now.
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  Speaker 1: And so to me, you're just gonna get a better player,
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  Speaker 1: a better product, a better prom as you continue to
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  Speaker 1: develop him, right, And that what I love about what
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  Speaker 1: they do. They're not afraid to put those guys anywhere
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  Speaker 1: on the field. Right, He'll play receiver. They'll have Christian
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  Speaker 1: Kirk in the backfield. That puts a different stress on
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  Speaker 1: the defense. And so when you have a guy like that,
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  Speaker 1: as long you can continue to develop them, that's good.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds me back in two thousand and seven when
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  Speaker 1: I was coming out or and I was in the league.
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  Speaker 1: I was they were like Kennedy Pole and Dirt Cutter
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  Speaker 1: were like, Hey, we want you to go learn to
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  Speaker 1: play wide receiver. And I'm like, dude, for what like,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, well, we want to try to find
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  Speaker 1: a way to get you in fred on the field
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, and all these different things, And
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  Speaker 1: might have been two thousand and six, actually whatever year was, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so it might have been. It probably was. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was seven. Then it might have been seven. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Anyways, I spent that whole offseason running routes
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  Speaker 1: and learning, being with receivers and guys that I've known
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  Speaker 1: and trying to figure out a way. And then it
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  Speaker 1: put me in a position where I could touch the ball.
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  Speaker 1: It became about touches and that carries, right, And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's where you're gonna see Travis's growth become huge
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  Speaker 1: because it's not about twenty carries twenty five Carris is
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  Speaker 1: about getting him in the open field and get him touches,
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  Speaker 1: getting him in space and let him be able to
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  Speaker 1: do what he kind of did at Clempson. So that
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  Speaker 1: to me is what I'm excited to see from him
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  Speaker 1: and how they develop him going throughout. How much better
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  Speaker 1: can this offense get moving forward? Doug in his second year,
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  Speaker 1: Trevor and second year under Doug, you have Calvin Ridley
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  Speaker 1: most likely coming in waiting on that. We're waiting on that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, offense. It's so funny. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: give away secrets, but I who cares. Jags fans know this,
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  Speaker 1: they see it all the time. The one thing I've
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  Speaker 1: learned throughout my career and I coach now, I coach
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  Speaker 1: in high school and I coach you the football, it's
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  Speaker 1: the simple, the simpler, the simpler it is the faster
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  Speaker 1: you guys play right, they don't have to think, Um,
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  Speaker 1: I run seven plays with my little kids in high school.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying to cut it down a little bit. But
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  Speaker 1: where we run a lot of plays, I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: cut it down a little bit. Literally. I've seen Doug
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  Speaker 1: run ten plays, literally ten plays out of different formations.
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  Speaker 1: And what it does is your quarterbacks, he's the same
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  Speaker 1: picture over and over. It just looks different to them.
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  Speaker 1: And you started to see it. And that's why in
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  Speaker 1: the second half of the season it just started to click.
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  Speaker 1: And now so you have those whatever how many of
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  Speaker 1: the plays they ran, now you can kind of expand
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  Speaker 1: on that this year, maybe add five or six, seven
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  Speaker 1: more maybe right, and then grow and and and to me,
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  Speaker 1: that is the most important thing. Now, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: important to get Evan Ingram locked in because I think
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  Speaker 1: that piece of tight end puts Again. When you look
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  Speaker 1: at Doug Peterson's offense, you look at the Chiefs, you
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  Speaker 1: look at the Eagles. All the guys that run a
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  Speaker 1: very similar offense, they stress the defense so bad. Like
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: what the Eagles did where they they Jalen Hurts can run.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: That's a different stretch. You got a j Brown, Dallas Goddard,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Devonte Smith of miuse say, all these guys, how do
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: you account for one guy? He's a quarter Now we're
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: gonna go a quarterback sneak, and I think with uh,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: the Jags is having Ingram at wide receiver. He's actually
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver, but you have to cover him like
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: a tight end because you don't have enough guys to
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: cover the other three guys are on the other side. Yeah,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: you have to make a choice. You have to show
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: your hand, and so you're obviously it helps my quarterback,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: you know, play fast because now I can eliminate his
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: A manters own. You have a corner over every Ingram?
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Do you have a linebacker a safety? If you do,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: we'll take we take our shot, right Tennessee. That was
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the whole Tennessee game where we saw them come alive.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Was that Tennessee played man to man and they put
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: a safety or a linebacker on him, he towards them. Okay,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: we'll take that all day. Right. Then that opens up
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: our running game, right and now all of a sudden,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: now you're focused on him. Now have Christian Kurt in
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: the backfield. Now I'm getting him online. Like so there
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: were so many different ways they did things, but they
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: ran the same place pretty much over and over again.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: And so that was it was going into year two.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: You know, I know in the fantasy world, everybody's excited
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: about the Jags and all that's going on, but in
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: this real life to see the growth of them from
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: the bye week till the divisional game in Kansas City.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Each week you saw growth when even with losses, they
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: were just getting better, getting better, getting better. Then they
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: explode and then they keep it going. And then that
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: that that wild card game, I was like, that could
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: have been the worst start you could have, right. But
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: if it's funny, if you notice they ran the same
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: place in the second half, they didn't change. They're just like, here,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: you gotta execute better, and they just went right now,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I picked them, you know, I was picking against them. Uh,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: and that's probably why that you said most Jag fans
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of people were on me about it, but
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: it was it was a it was a Jaguar thing.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: It was something we had to do to get to
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: where we need to get to. And I was willing
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: to sacrifice, uh, my likeness, I guess with the fan base,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: but um, it's you. I saw what they were trying
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: to do, and I saw the throws that were being
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: made or weren't being made, and then was like it
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: was just like there, it was there. It wasn't that
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: he was, it was just it was there. And so
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: to me, it was like, okay, you have this if
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: you can connect, and they connected right before half and
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is where it starts. You
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: stole the momentum back and they just kind of went
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: down and did their thing. Tell me about you. Where
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you at good shape? Yeah, I'm you know, working out.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: So I've been been down a little bit just because
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: of ouch, you know. And then obviously Benny early on mana,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: why both those guys passing like you know guys I
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: play with, They're all the same age, so that that's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: always scary. But uh, getting back in shape, coaching my kids. Yeah,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: big Jags fan because my boy, Oh my my family's
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: all big Jacks. Ok. Oh, my oldest son, he's been
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: getting drug for years. Fantastic. And so you know we're
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: in the we're in the Niner territory, so we have
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: all these Niner fans. They always talked bad about him,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: but he got his get back this year, which is good,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: so that was always exciting to see. Um, I'm here
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: scouting just for the network, talking about all the running backs.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Good thing that Jacks don't have to draft once. We're
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: not worried about that. They may draft one late, sure
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I know they signed Jamichael Hasty,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: but I still think they may need another guy, so
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: they may get one in the six or seventh one
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: hounds or something. And then really other than that, I'm
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: traveling the world, hanging out working with NFL International, trying
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to grow the game overseas, which is nice. It's been
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: in Africa, possibly going to Australia soon. Fantastic. So just
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: doing my part on the game that helped me. Yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: good deal. Yeah, Morise, I always enjoyed talking to you.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I can sit here and talk to you for hours.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah I got I have nothing but time today, but
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you're lucky. I appreciate it. Morise Jones Drew, thank you
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: for joining the ozone podcast here from the Combine, no problem.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, buddy,