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The Forsytes S1E5 (PBS) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Homewark review podcast talking
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  Speaker 1: PBS today. I'm Megan, I'm a longtime Hallmark fan. I'm Wendy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a former Hallmark hater. On today's episode, we are
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  Speaker 1: discussing the Foresight season one, episode five, which originally aired
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  Speaker 1: on PBS on Sunday, April nineteenth. But good news, you
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  Speaker 1: can watch it for free on PBS dot org and
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  Speaker 1: access to so much good stuff. Are you a subscriber?
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  Speaker 1: I am? Now are you? Yeah? How did you watch
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  Speaker 1: Dalton Abbey originally on PBS on your like kbr? Oh? Okay? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I started watching Dalton Abbey I think in either season
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  Speaker 1: two or season three, and I remember I had to
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  Speaker 1: get the d from the library because it wasn't streaming anywhere,
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  Speaker 1: and so this was years ago, and so I watched
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  Speaker 1: the first couple on DVD and then I believe I
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  Speaker 1: recorded it, just dvr'd it, and I think now it's
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  Speaker 1: all on Netflix as well, Oh is it? I think
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  Speaker 1: Downtown Abvius on Netflix. And someone recommended another show recently
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  Speaker 1: to us another PBS show. We've gotten quite a few
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  Speaker 1: PBS recommendations. Actually, it's All Creatures, Great and Small, which
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  Speaker 1: is based on the books of James Harriet, which is
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  Speaker 1: are books that I read as a child a children.
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  Speaker 1: He has a children's book, but they're not children's books.
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  Speaker 1: He's a country vet in the English countryside, and I
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  Speaker 1: loved his books. This is a PBS show. It's a
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  Speaker 1: PBS show about a vet in the English country side.
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  Speaker 1: I've known about the series. I haven't watched it, but
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  Speaker 1: now that I'm a PBS dot org subscriber, I might. Yeah. Really,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that you would like the story about
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  Speaker 1: like a country vet in the English countryside. It might
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  Speaker 1: be a little too slow for you. But I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you I loved those books. I still have copies of them. Really,
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  Speaker 1: I loved them. Why don't we get into it? The
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  Speaker 1: Four Sights Episode five, Let's do It, Let's Hear a synopsis?
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  Speaker 1: Disaster strikes at Four Sights and co s Solmes puts
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  Speaker 1: an end to Irene's Parisian dreams. Louisa faces a shock eviction.
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  Speaker 1: Can Joe save to day? Question mark? Question mark? Question mark? Hey, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: what's your first impression of this episode of the foresights
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  Speaker 1: Irene you and danger Girl Red Flag? Do you know
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  Speaker 1: the red flag guy on TikTok? No? I don't. He
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  Speaker 1: has a literal giant red flag and like you'll see
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  Speaker 1: a video of some man behaving horribly and like it
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  Speaker 1: all a little be a clip of him like running
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  Speaker 1: through the vell really and he makes like you're in
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  Speaker 1: more danger than a I wish I could remember one
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  Speaker 1: of the analogies he makes, but he started making green
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  Speaker 1: flag video. Oh that's nice anyway, Dustin, Dustin Pointer, I
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  Speaker 1: will leave it's his name on techtoks. My first impression
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  Speaker 1: is the one where all of our chickens come home
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  Speaker 1: to roost. Can I tell you? It was this episode
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  Speaker 1: that I it finally dawned on me that this show
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  Speaker 1: is like a soap opera for sure, And when I
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  Speaker 1: watch it with that point of view, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: love that for me because like before going into it,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm thinking this is like a super prestigious like
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  Speaker 1: because of the time frame or language they use and
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  Speaker 1: all like whatever, No, it's just messy and dramatic. If
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  Speaker 1: I just think of it like soapy, like it's a
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  Speaker 1: great watch They're just dressed nicely. They're just dressed nicely. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And in this particular episode, there was some snark that
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  Speaker 1: UH clocked for maybe the first time. Yes, And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, was I just missing it in the first
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  Speaker 1: four episode. I think it's stronger in this episode because
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  Speaker 1: it was several times. Oh, there's some great lines. I
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  Speaker 1: just laughed. The end line between Solm's and Joe. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, get out Somelm says, booted you out? Has she?
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  Speaker 1: And Joe says marriage going? Well? Is it? It's my favorite.
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  Speaker 1: I rewounded to watch it again. It's so good, like
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  Speaker 1: Joe doesn't miss a beat. Oh, I love it was great.
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  Speaker 1: It was great. So now I'm just like, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: is just like a fun, delicious, soapy melrose Place. I
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  Speaker 1: thought this episode was so good great. So look, after
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  Speaker 1: last week we talked about Anne's voiceovers, and I've noticed
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  Speaker 1: them every time, but last week was the first time
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  Speaker 1: I was paying close attention at the theme she was
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  Speaker 1: weaving for the episode and her voiceover. Did you catch
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  Speaker 1: it this episode? Yeah? I did not. So she talked
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  Speaker 1: about the overall She talks about love being both a
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  Speaker 1: blessing and a curse and that carries through the entire
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  Speaker 1: episode mostly a curse for these people. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: it's there's some question about who it's a blessing for.
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot of likes. Can we start with
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  Speaker 1: one of them? Yeah? Look, I hate the way Solmes
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  Speaker 1: is being deceitful, but it is so juicy to watch
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  Speaker 1: Irene start to turn on him the second she clocks
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  Speaker 1: his BS and her entire attitude changes, and the way
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  Speaker 1: she treats him throughout the rest of this episode. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, love to see it, me too. I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you. As I'm watching this, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: the uman danger girl, like I had to be. Course.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, but maybe Solmes is in danger because
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little afraid of Irene and what she might do.
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  Speaker 1: I know, as she's realizing all this stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's as soon as she realizes he's been lying, she
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  Speaker 1: knows exactly why, shaushing his head and she's like, so
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  Speaker 1: when did you know? I'm like, it's like a horror movie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a moment so good, so good, And you know, early
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  Speaker 1: on I was like, sosive, right, Like, the man is
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  Speaker 1: still very nice to look up, but this character is
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  Speaker 1: so scary. He lies so easily, and he just builds
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  Speaker 1: lie upon lie upon lie. And I'm so sad because
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  Speaker 1: at one point I thought, no, I think he's a
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  Speaker 1: good guy. He's not right when he kind of saves
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  Speaker 1: Irene and he seems to love her. I actually don't
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  Speaker 1: think that he doesn't love her. I think that he
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  Speaker 1: thinks he loves her. Oh, I think he's possessed with her.
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  Speaker 1: I think so too, obsessed, obsessed. I think he is
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  Speaker 1: obsessed with her too. He's suppossessed to Irene. Come in,
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  Speaker 1: it's not far off. Look, he says to her, like
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  Speaker 1: I saved you, you owe me. Oh it's dark, really dark,
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  Speaker 1: really dark. Maybe we'll go back to Paris. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you made him and you never go on, bad girl never.
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  Speaker 1: I love that she makes friends with all the staff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah this is before she knows, but I was like,
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  Speaker 1: it's so lovely. And then just to see the way
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  Speaker 1: they react to her, and she's so thrown by it,
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  Speaker 1: and Connie's like they're not used to it. She goes
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  Speaker 1: what being treated like real humans? Yeah? I love it. Yeah, great, great,
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  Speaker 1: great great Joe once again the most decent man in
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  Speaker 1: this terrible family. I love how he's standing on business
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  Speaker 1: in this episode, and he's so they so make him
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  Speaker 1: to be the villain, like he's he's the god. He's
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  Speaker 1: such a shame on the family because he had these children,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, where like all these other
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  Speaker 1: people are doing such terrible, terrible things, and he's like, look,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to be a father too much. Kids.
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  Speaker 1: My stepdaughter was raised in this lavish lifestyle and here
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  Speaker 1: my children are. Yes. I think it's really interesting. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a huge fan of Joe in this current moment, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it's really easy to be on his side
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  Speaker 1: because you can see the sparks between Luisa and Joe,
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  Speaker 1: especially when she is talking to him about him, but
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  Speaker 1: the children know who she's talking about. It's important to
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  Speaker 1: pursue your passions. They're not behaving inappropriately. He's not actively
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  Speaker 1: pursuing Louisa. He's doing this all under the guise of
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  Speaker 1: supporting his children, making sure that they're educated and making
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  Speaker 1: sure that all of their needs are met. And of
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  Speaker 1: course that does benefit Luisa, and spending time with the
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  Speaker 1: children does mean spending time with Louisa. But you want
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  Speaker 1: to believe that had France has not given him that ultimatum,
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  Speaker 1: he would have at least attempted to continue to be
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  Speaker 1: a good husband while being present in his other children's lives.
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  Speaker 1: Like he wanted to be above board about it. He
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  Speaker 1: goes to June about it, right, He's like, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to talk to your mom and Frances cannot hand. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame her. I don't blame her for feeling threatened.
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  Speaker 1: I do blame her for saying, get the kids out
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  Speaker 1: of the country. You don't get to be with them. Terrible,
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  Speaker 1: But I don't blame her for feeling threatened by his relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Do you blame him for leaving at the end. No,
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  Speaker 1: I think he's absolutely right. I think these are his children.
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  Speaker 1: It's right for him to want to know them. I agree,
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  Speaker 1: And I think Francis is in a terrible position. She'd
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  Speaker 1: behaves terribly. I have no empathy for Francis. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that I do either. When she sends wiggans, and
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  Speaker 1: then when you know on his second task that she
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  Speaker 1: sent him to do something bad. You don't know what
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  Speaker 1: it is yet, but you know she sent him to
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  Speaker 1: ruin her in some way. I don't condone any of
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  Speaker 1: her further actions. Yeah, but she saw the way he
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  Speaker 1: looked at her. That's all she needs to know, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what happens from here? He leaves? Then how
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  Speaker 1: does Francis she's going to go to Joe Senior next?
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  Speaker 1: I mean she did? Should they show them to speaking
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the episode, because her lot in
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  Speaker 1: life is going to change if Joe Junior business? Yeah? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: how does that work? I don't know. Do we have
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  Speaker 1: community property in the nineteenth century? She's so wrapped up
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  Speaker 1: in like optics too, you know. So that's why this
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  Speaker 1: is just juicy. I love it. I'm so glad it's
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  Speaker 1: going to have three seasons. Can't wait. This episode was
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  Speaker 1: heavy on, like the financial stuff. I don't care about
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  Speaker 1: any of that stuff. I don't either, except that I
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  Speaker 1: do love the FAFO of it all, with the disaster
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  Speaker 1: behind the salean mind and it, you know, pits the
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  Speaker 1: risk taking men against those who were like I told
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  Speaker 1: you so, man, Yeah, no, I and I get why
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  Speaker 1: they're doing it, and I loved that. Then it goes
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  Speaker 1: even further where Anne is like, oh, somebody who we
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  Speaker 1: owe something too has been affected by this, and you
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  Speaker 1: guys need to make it, make it right. Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: all that kind of underbelly storyline that's happening, like the
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  Speaker 1: James and Joe Senior and whoever that's Alexandra, both we're
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  Speaker 1: in love with at some point. Yeah, we're still picking
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  Speaker 1: at that. That's in my wishes, just understanding more about
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  Speaker 1: where that's okay, good, good good, But yeah, overall, a
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  Speaker 1: good juicy episode, A good juicy episode. And I continue
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  Speaker 1: to love June so much. O me too. You know,
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  Speaker 1: June is just so idealistic and she wants to be
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  Speaker 1: with Philip, but she also is like understanding. She's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we can't get together until he commissions something, so hey,
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  Speaker 1: do you want to help us up? You know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just so cute And I wonder like, oh, is June
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  Speaker 1: and Philip and Irene kind of all cut from the
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  Speaker 1: same cloth a little like rebel? Are they rebels? Are
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  Speaker 1: they going to be the ones that take this family,
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  Speaker 1: you know, away from what a Foresight is supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: I also really enjoyed a couple of scenes with Montague
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  Speaker 1: Monty and this sister he's two. There is a lot
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  Speaker 1: of little comedic things between them. I just enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: I just love Monty, like running in the background that
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  Speaker 1: would be a fun character to play. I just feel
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  Speaker 1: like he's like, I'm just a nobody likes me. I
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  Speaker 1: do not even really my wife. My wife seems a
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  Speaker 1: little bit or annoyed by me half the time. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know if the family likes the wife though,
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  Speaker 1: either the daughter. She's the daughter. I agree, she's not
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  Speaker 1: seen as like Solmes, you know, olden child. No, you're right, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come
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  Speaker 1: right back to talk about our wishes. All right, let
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  Speaker 1: me hear some of your wishes, Wendy, I really only
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  Speaker 1: have one, and it's probably just a Wendy situation is
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of understanding still about the
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  Speaker 1: business side of things, and I keep getting I keep
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  Speaker 1: getting the two shows mixed up in my head, the
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  Speaker 1: Foresights and the Count of Chrys. So because like if
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  Speaker 1: you listen to our episode yesterday, there was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of mirroring happening, like manipulation of markets, crashing of markets,
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  Speaker 1: and things happening, and so I just need a better
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  Speaker 1: understanding of like how much money are we talking being lost?
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  Speaker 1: But overall it doesn't have anything to do with like
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  Speaker 1: the family. Well, I guess It does have to do
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  Speaker 1: with the family dynamics of it all. I mean, prior
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  Speaker 1: episodes we were really hammering in on who's going to
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  Speaker 1: lead it. Solmes are Joe, Zmes are Joe, Which one
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  Speaker 1: is the better leader? They are two different dudes totally. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what's interesting to me here is we have this. Somes
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  Speaker 1: was all in on the potential benefits of the Ceylon
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  Speaker 1: mind as gold mine, and when they were seeing benefits,
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  Speaker 1: he and je the legacy, look at all this, look
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  Speaker 1: at all this money are making and then it crashes
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  Speaker 1: and some kind of crashes out on his own and
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  Speaker 1: then he storms out into Foresight and go and he's like, look,
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  Speaker 1: he shakes it off, gives this big monologue speech. Yeah yes,
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  Speaker 1: but he's like, these people knew what they were doing.
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  Speaker 1: The blame is on them, not on us. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, look at that, look at you just coming
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  Speaker 1: in here being like, I wash my hands any responsibility
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  Speaker 1: for this. I would take all the credit if we
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  Speaker 1: were making money. But now that we've lost money, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: that was your choice, your choice to stick with that investment.
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  Speaker 1: All we can do is advise you. So is that
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  Speaker 1: how these people operate? Like in twenty twenty six. Probably
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  Speaker 1: come to me when you're making money. Yeah, not my
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  Speaker 1: fault when you lose it. Just a couple of little things.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about it a little bit, but I'm very
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  Speaker 1: curious for more backstory on James and Joe's relationship with
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  Speaker 1: Alexandra and how Henry Falconer comes into play with that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: why do they owe him? What were the circumstances behind
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  Speaker 1: his bailout? Seemed precipitated by their relationship with Alexandra. There
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  Speaker 1: is some hinting at that earlier in the episode, where
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  Speaker 1: June is talking about her life with Philip and her
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  Speaker 1: grandfather says something. Joe Senior says something, and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that you've never known passion And he's like,
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  Speaker 1: what makes you think I haven't? Yeah, And I thought briefecond,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, is it talking about Francis. I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 1: obviously he's talking about Alexandra, but we don't know anything
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  Speaker 1: about her. He talked about Irene and June. I really
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  Speaker 1: like that friendship. However, at the end of the episode,
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  Speaker 1: we see Irene meet Philip. June so excited for them
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  Speaker 1: to meet, and she's like, we're all going to be
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  Speaker 1: the best of friends. There's a look exchanged between Irene
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  Speaker 1: and Philip that I don't fully understand. And this might
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  Speaker 1: be me trying to read way too much, but Irene
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  Speaker 1: and Philip are much more similar than June. June and Philip.
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  Speaker 1: We see Irene's relationship falling apart. We don't know what
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  Speaker 1: that means for her marriage, but that scene felt heavier
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  Speaker 1: then it should have, that casual meeting in the park.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was just because Irene
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  Speaker 1: was forced to put on a happy face in that
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  Speaker 1: moment because she's feeling betrayed, or if there's more there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Interesting. Also, Francis and Josie, you have
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a moment. I'm not gonna go somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: I don't love it. My suspicions are raised. Mmm. My
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  Speaker 1: final wish is I do wish that Joe would put
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  Speaker 1: a stop to Francis, like he's so polite with her,
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  Speaker 1: like I need him to be like stop your bullshit,
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  Speaker 1: like stop Meddeline and this this is not going to
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  Speaker 1: affect you in any way, Like stop it, stop it.
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  Speaker 1: She's mean, this is not going to affect you in
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  Speaker 1: any way. If he should spending time with his children.
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  Speaker 1: But in her mind, I know, spending time with the
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  Speaker 1: children means he's gonna be boundchik obaa with Louisa, especially
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: now that he's baught her a little little butter A
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  Speaker 1: big country spread. Yeah, place to bang. The children are there,
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  Speaker 1: There are children in every house. How did the children
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  Speaker 1: get there? Are they going to bang out on this show?
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  Speaker 1: I think so? You think so? Well, I'm okay, Well wait,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I think back SOMs and Iron did. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 1: pretty steamy about show. I think we're going to know
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  Speaker 1: that these things are happening. I don't think, well, now
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  Speaker 1: that Joe and Francis are technically he got kicked out.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he walks into Isaac's house and he knows his
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  Speaker 1: life having dinner and he's like, well, last he didn't
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  Speaker 1: go to I know, he says, right, of course, of course.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine He's like, oh, by the way, he
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  Speaker 1: takes the tiniest little suitcase with him. Did you see
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: it's like a briefcase. Yes, like you wear a lot
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  Speaker 1: of clothes. What's in there? His hair products? It's got
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: great hair. He does great hair. A couple of questions, Solmes,
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  Speaker 1: when does he officially cross a line with you. Is
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  Speaker 1: it like when he tells the big lie about his
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  Speaker 1: dad's health or were you already like he already lied
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  Speaker 1: about his reasons for coming back. Yeah, because he was
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  Speaker 1: not going to come back simply based on his father's letter.
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  Speaker 1: He came back after seeing what it would mean for
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  Speaker 1: Irene being in Paris, and then he made up the lie,
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  Speaker 1: I have to get back. I owe them that. And
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  Speaker 1: then he immediately starts lying and he says, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go tell my father our plans. That's never
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  Speaker 1: his plan to go tell his father. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: GTF HO to Paris. I just want to let you know.
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  Speaker 1: And then it just it's snowballs. He makes the lie
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  Speaker 1: about his father's health and don't tell anybody, and and
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: everything about this just solidifies who he is. His proclamation
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: about not our fault, that we lost your money and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you owe me because I saved you from nothing, he
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: just gets worse and worse. Is he worse than his dad? Yes?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: You think so, I do, because I think James is
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: a social climber, and I don't think James is a
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: good guy. He's not the kind of guy i'd want
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to be married to. But I think he's just I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: don't know that he's as deceitful and as dangerous. Yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Somelme seems to be. And the way Solmes turns off
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the anger, yes, frightens me. I know, yeah, me too.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: It's just simmering under the surface. Yes, I agree. Do
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you think Solmes is worse than Joe James? I wish
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: we could get like a flashback to James and Joe
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Senior as younger and if they were, if they if
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: James had moved as like icky as SLMs did. What
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: could you compare the Foresights to like modern day? At
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the modern day equivalent to the Foresights? Any think I'm
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to mine for you? I don't know. I'm like, it's
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: not like a daily It's not like all my children
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: or like the days of our lives, like like that
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: was down Abby. This was down Abbey soapy? Or was
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: it just historically down Abbey was soapy? But not quite
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: like this. No, the drama's real mild. I mean there
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: is some high drama, but nothing. I wonder if this
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: like is more you know, when we were children and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it was like the Friday Night Dynasty or Dallas or
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: like along those lines. Maybe, I don't know. I like it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's a highly entertaining I think a lot
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: of people are trapped in this episode in one way
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: or another, not in this episode, in this world. Yeah,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: who do you think is the most trapped? Hm, that's
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a good question because if I you know, francis trapped,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: but by her own choice, because she wants she wants life. Yeah,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: she wants this life, Irene. I mean I don't think
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: she's I think she can get out of it. But
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: because even if you remember, Solmes was like, you can leave,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I won't you know, if you're not happy, you can leave.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: This was like before they got married, there was a promise.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen either. June might
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: be the most trapped. Yeah, is it June? Is it Joe? No,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: maybe it's the boy, Maybe it's Joe is trapped in
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: this life, they're all trapped. Who's trapped the most? Because
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: June has I don't see success with her relationship with Philip,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: but at this current place, she does have the clearest
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: path to what she wants, is at least a path
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: to what she thinks she wants. Yeah, it might be Joe.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know either, but a lot of people are
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: trapped in this. I don't know why Joe couldn't just
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: be to his family like, yeah, I'm not doing any
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: of this anymore. Bye. I just don't think it's that
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: easy to just walk away from your family and your
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Exit's why he came home when he was with Louisa.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: These expectations are too much, and it wouldn't be as
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: simple as I'm gonna go do my own thing and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I'll see you on the holidays. I mean, they would
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: be done with him. I don't think he'd be welcome back.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Joe doesn't strike me as a guy who's going to
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: be like, well, I need their money and I need
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: their right. So but he's made his own money. I know.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying, like, why doesn't he just leave
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to go be an artiste? Yes? All right, Well, thanks
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