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Not So Fast Episode 10 · Not So Fast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,
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Speaker 1: where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest
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Speaker 1: sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.
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Speaker 1: Not so fast, my friends.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst.
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Speaker 3: We're laughing because we just had to kick Tony Reale
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Speaker 3: out from right in front of the camera.
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Speaker 2: But we're all tired. Long football weekend. Teammate check. How'd
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Speaker 2: you do, Paul?
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Speaker 4: Pretty good. 13 hours of college football on Saturday. Another
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Speaker 4: 12 on Sunday. I don't know how much sleep last night,
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Speaker 4: but who cares? A lot of football. We're here for it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so an incredible week one. They're about to set
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Speaker 3: the scoring record unless the Chiefs and Broncos do nothing tonight.
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Speaker 3: They are about 41 points away from the highest scoring
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Speaker 3: week one in NFL history, Paul.
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Speaker 2: Break it down.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 4: So the Bears have 59. Ravens, 41. Jags, 34. Bengals, 33. Lions,
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Speaker 4: 31-30 over the Saints.
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Speaker 2: Bills, 36-31.
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Speaker 4: The Vikings are the third-string quarterback to score 39. The
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Speaker 4: Giants score 28. And then here's what's funny about this, Perloff.
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Speaker 4: Go back to last week.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: The Seahawks and Patriots score 13 and 10 and the
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Speaker 4: Rams only score seven.
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable that the Rams are the one single digit team.
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Speaker 4: Okay. So we're in week one. We see all this scoring.
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Speaker 4: There's Josh Allen. Of course he's going to score. Is
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Speaker 4: this an anomaly or can you extrapolate a trend out
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Speaker 4: of this, this early?
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Speaker 2: To me, it's an anomaly. Week one is a liver.
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Speaker 3: It never means exactly what you think it is, but
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Speaker 3: some of the reasons that the games were so high
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Speaker 3: scoring was turnovers cause a lot of points. And then
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Speaker 3: the one game that sort of lit it all up
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Speaker 3: was the Bears and the Panthers, 59-37.
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Speaker 2: Part of the reason that went so high scoring.
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Speaker 3: This piece of Bears defense let the Panthers stay in
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Speaker 3: the game.
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Speaker 2: The Bears were blowing them out. So the Bears had
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Speaker 2: to keep their foot on the gas.
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Speaker 4: And Kevin Clark from Omaha Productions, he was joining the
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Speaker 4: Dan Patch show today, and he talked about this. And
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Speaker 4: he said something about, you know, the defenses are playing catch-up.
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Speaker 4: A lot of new players, new quarterbacks, new systems, free agency.
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Speaker 4: So they don't know exactly what to get to.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a.
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Speaker 3: Little shocking that the Texans defense, which we've been talking
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Speaker 3: about for months— Completely fell apart. It looked like Josh Allen,
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Speaker 3: by the end, could do whatever he wanted. That, to me,
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Speaker 3: was the biggest surprise. But again, week one does not
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Speaker 3: mean what we think it does. I mean, the Bears
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Speaker 3: are not going to score 59 points a week, are they?
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Speaker 4: No, they usually don't score 59 points in a month,
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Speaker 4: like in the old Bears days. But there's a lot
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Speaker 4: of teams that are interesting. The Vikings, Packers, that's nuts
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Speaker 4: because you think... Once Kyler Murray's out, the scoring's going
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Speaker 4: to go down.
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Speaker 2: I mean, come on.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 3: There is no way the Vikings or the Bears play
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Speaker 3: in Week 2. We're not going to see games in
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Speaker 3: the 30s or 40s.
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Speaker 2: I think it's a anomaly.
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Speaker 4: So you're poo-pooing the possible trend.
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Speaker 2: I am completely poo-pooing, and I'm starting with your Bears.
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Speaker 2: I like the Bears a lot this year.
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Speaker 3: They do not want to score 59 points. Ben Johnson
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Speaker 3: wants to run left and run right because he's got
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Speaker 3: to protect that defense.
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Speaker 2: I'll bet you anything, Paul. I'm going to go out
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Speaker 2: on a limb here. that they go under next week.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 3: I'm positive they're going to go under, whatever the total is.
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Speaker 4: So you're going to say they're going to undercompensate, not overcompensate.
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Speaker 3: They're going to undercompensate, and they love to run the ball.
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Speaker 3: They had two runners over 100 yards on Sunday.
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Speaker 4: But it was a fun weekend. At least it's fun
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Speaker 4: for all the fans. A lot of scoring, a lot
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Speaker 4: of energy.
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Speaker 3: I think so, right, unless you're a Chargers fan. There
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Speaker 3: are a lot of, you know, listen, there's the flip side.
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Speaker 3: There are a lot of teams that did not do well,
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Speaker 3: but to me, there are certain fan bases that are
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Speaker 3: completely over the moon, starting with Chicago. But Tony kept
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Speaker 3: on talking about it on the Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2: You were a little bit, I'm not going to say timid.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to save this for my warm take because
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Speaker 4: I want to talk about Sunday Night Football, but I'm
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Speaker 4: going to save Bears football. break pumping for my warm take.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's a game, by the way, Sunday Night Football,
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Speaker 3: where there is no break pumping in New York because the.
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Speaker 2: Giants are back.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what this means, but the
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Speaker 3: Giants look like they have it figured out and the
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Speaker 3: Cowboys were disappointing. I'll tell you right now, the reason
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Speaker 3: I think the Giants are back, I think Jackson Dart is...
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Speaker 3: Between 5 and 10 in the quarterback rankings.
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Speaker 2: I think he's elite.
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Speaker 3: I'm going there, Paul. I think he looked like Joe
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Speaker 3: Burrow on Sunday night. He was incredible on third down.
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Speaker 3: I'm dead serious.
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Speaker 2: I'm dead serious.
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Speaker 3: The team was 9 of 11 on third down, and
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Speaker 3: he looked like he could do whatever he wanted.
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Speaker 2: They had the running game going with Scadaboo.
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Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys only got the ball twice in the
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Speaker 3: second half. It was a domination. It was a ball
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Speaker 3: control domination. Isaiah likely turns out to be a star
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Speaker 3: at tight end. But I was really impressed by Jackson
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Speaker 3: Dart's poise.
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Speaker 4: OK, I got to call a 20 here. I'm going
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Speaker 4: to need to chop up everything you just said. First
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Speaker 4: of all, Scataboo, no more round off things. This is
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Speaker 4: not the Olympics. You're not Romanian. Here we go. I
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Speaker 4: know what you're saying about Jackson Dart because I agree
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Speaker 4: with you. I thought he was great in college. I
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Speaker 4: loved him last year, but he just took on too
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Speaker 4: much hits. There was a play in the second quarter
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Speaker 4: where Dart rolls left. He's run for about 15 yards
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Speaker 4: and could have gotten another five yards, and he casually
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Speaker 4: walks out of bounds. And you hear Chris Collinsworth on
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Speaker 4: NBC go, oh, that's it. That's it. Like he finally
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Speaker 4: unlocked the box. I will say, though, I was not
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Speaker 4: that surprised by this game because Dallas has a revamped
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Speaker 4: defense with some new characters. Sean Gary. That takes time
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Speaker 4: to play out.
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Speaker 3: Wait, we're analyzing NFL Week 1. Don't give me time
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Speaker 3: to play out. We have to overreact here, Paul.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to do proper reaction Monday here. I love
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Speaker 4: what the Giants did. They ran the ball well. Malik Nabors,
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Speaker 4: there was some talk that he wouldn't be ready for
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Speaker 4: the game up until three hours before the game started.
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Speaker 4: But look at them last night. 5.8 yards per play.
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Speaker 4: 9 for 11 on third down. That's a quarterback who
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Speaker 4: gets it. And Jackson Dart, if he could just cut
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Speaker 4: down his hits... I think he ran the ball 11 times.
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Speaker 4: That's a little much for me. But he's good at running.
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Speaker 4: That's the tough part.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and he had some key first downs with
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Speaker 3: his legs. Again, I'm ready to.
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Speaker 2: Say the word. I'll say it. Elite.
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Speaker 4: But you, when we were talking about the Giants a
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Speaker 4: month ago, you said, don't worry about the Giants. They're inconsequential.
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Speaker 4: Are you falling for your own stuff here?
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Speaker 3: I'm totally falling for my own hype. And you didn't
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Speaker 3: even really get to see that defensive line with Abdul
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Speaker 3: Carter and now Arvel Risa, linebacker, Kayvon Thibodeau, and Ryan Burns,
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Speaker 3: who's outstanding.
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Speaker 4: They had no sacks yesterday, but they were in the
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Speaker 4: backfield a lot.
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Speaker 2: Abdul Carter had a big play that disrupted the Cowboys' offense.
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Speaker 4: Okay, let's get to the Cowboys' side of this. I
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Speaker 4: would be a little more bothered about the offense was
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Speaker 4: supposed to be the sure thing this year. They ran
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Speaker 4: the ball okay. They passed the ball okay. But okay
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Speaker 4: won't work when you have an average defense.
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Speaker 3: You can't pass the ball or run the ball when
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Speaker 3: you're on defense all the time. Dak was really, really good.
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Speaker 3: There were a couple drops. I'm not worried about their
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Speaker 3: offense at all. I am so disappointed in their defense, Paul.
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Speaker 3: Because remember the narrative that Jerry Jones had made up
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Speaker 3: for the bad Micah Parsons trade by getting all these
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Speaker 3: defensive tackles and they.
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Speaker 2: Were going to stop the run? What happened to that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the bigger picture with the Cowboys, I think,
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Speaker 4: whatever you think of their offense or their defense... They
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Speaker 4: don't feel like a big game team for me. The
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Speaker 4: bigger the game, the less they show up. And that's been,
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Speaker 4: we're a couple decades into that now. I mean, I'm
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Speaker 4: not an anti-Cowboys guy. I just think that they don't
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Speaker 4: perform well under the biggest of lights. And you'd think
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Speaker 4: they're used to the lights.
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Speaker 3: There was so much hype, too. And I fell into it.
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Speaker 3: I picked them to win the NFC East. Did that
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Speaker 3: make the whole experience of watching them lose and lose
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Speaker 3: pretty badly even harder for Cowboys fans?
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Speaker 4: It does.
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Speaker 2: It does.
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Speaker 4: All right, we're going to get some college football in
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Speaker 4: a second, but week one NFL, we didn't talk about
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Speaker 4: the teams that were hurting, like the Dolphins and maybe
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Speaker 4: the Packers, but it's time to give out helmet stickers.
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Speaker 4: Who had a good game, who had a great performance,
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Speaker 4: you go first.
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Speaker 3: Okay, my first helmet sticker actually goes to Baltimore, and
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Speaker 3: you'd think I was talking about Lamar Jackson.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about Zay Flowers, a wide receiver.
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Speaker 3: Had 150 yards receiving that went out with a hamstring injury,
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Speaker 3: one that he's been dealing with.
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Speaker 2: Not too bad, though.
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Speaker 3: The reason I'm giving Zay Flowers the helmet sticker is
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Speaker 3: because I thought he was the most overpaid wide receiver
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Speaker 3: in football. When he got $ 35 million in the offseason,
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Speaker 3: then he goes out against Week 1 and Indy, and
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Speaker 3: the entire Baltimore offense was dominant, and he was unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: I took a long one to the house. Zay Flowers
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Speaker 3: is a top-tier receiver.
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Speaker 2: I was totally wrong about that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he's ever going to get in
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Speaker 4: that conversation with Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. For that team,
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Speaker 4: he does exactly what they need. Not a big dude, but, man,
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Speaker 4: he can get up the field.
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Speaker 2: Oh, he can scoot.
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Speaker 4: I pulled a hamstring just watching him on that play.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little worried about this hamstring.
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Speaker 3: They said if it was a playoff game, he could
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Speaker 3: have gone back into the game against Indy. But the
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Speaker 3: way Lamar Jackson played on Sunday and with Flowers and
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Speaker 3: a bunch of other weapons, Derrick Henry looks like he's 25.
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Speaker 2: I think this offense is going to be one of
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Speaker 2: the stories of the year.
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Speaker 4: When the Ravens are at the goal line at the
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Speaker 4: 5-yard line, they run that read option with Derrick Henry
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Speaker 4: and Lamar Jackson. I don't know how you stop that.
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Speaker 2: Good luck.
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Speaker 4: All right, it's time for my helmet sticker. I'm going
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Speaker 4: to give my helmet sticker to T.J. Watt of the Steelers.
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Speaker 4: His first career touchdown. This is a play. This is
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Speaker 4: kind of like Jefferson in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
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Speaker 4: He just ate it alive. He picked, ran it back
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Speaker 4: to the house. Unbelievable play by T.J.
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Speaker 3: Watt.
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Speaker 4: And his brother. I was almost going to give J.J.
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Speaker 4: Watt a helmet sticker as well. But first career touchdown.
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Speaker 4: Watch this here. Right here.
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Speaker 2: Eat it up.
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Speaker 4: I'll just take that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: That looks like something out of a high school game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they didn't even get him when he was
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Speaker 2: on the ground. I did hear, was this his first touchdown?
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Speaker 4: First career touchdown. That's not very wattish.
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Speaker 3: But he has 10 picks, I also heard, in his career.
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Speaker 3: They said that during the game, which is unbelievable. I
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Speaker 3: actually want to bring up a sensitive topic.
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Speaker 4: Uh-oh.
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Speaker 2: You are a friend of J.J. Watt's.
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Speaker 4: Friend of Justin, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Is it possible that T.J. is going to end up
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Speaker 2: having a better career.
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Speaker 4: Than J.J.? You know, I think that's an interesting one.
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Speaker 4: We're going to have to maybe save that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hit you with that out of nowhere.
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Speaker 4: But let's tease that for tomorrow, who will have a
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Speaker 4: better career.
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Speaker 2: T.J.
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Speaker 4: Watt has a little more consistency past the age of 27.
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Speaker 4: After the age of 27, J.J. Watt, injuries kind of
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Speaker 4: slowed him down, so... More consistency. I would say better
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Speaker 4: at their best, JJ.
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Speaker 2: Ooh, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Because TJ, when he's not there, the Steelers can't win
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Speaker 3: a game.
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Speaker 2: So to me, I'm leaning TJ. But we'll save that
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Speaker 2: for tomorrow. We can get the audience involved as well.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 4: Saturday night, college football, the game of the year, even
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Speaker 4: though it's only the first two weeks of the year.
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Speaker 4: It was Ohio State versus Texas. Game day is there.
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Speaker 4: McConaughey is there. Woody Harrelson is there. The Manning family
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Speaker 4: is there. And Ohio State was running things for the
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Speaker 4: entire first quarter, for the entire first half. It's 23
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Speaker 4: at halftime and you're trying to figure out a reason
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Speaker 4: to stay with this game. And then it was like
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Speaker 4: one of those body-switching movies where everything Ohio State did
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Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter was wrong and everything Texas did
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Speaker 4: was right.
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Speaker 3: Well, Arch Manning struggled in the first half, but to
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Speaker 3: me it was on the drops.
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Speaker 2: Totally.
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Speaker 3: It was a Ryan Wingo drop and a Cam Coleman
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Speaker 3: drop on a hard play that.
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Speaker 2: Ended up being an interception of total fluke play.
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Speaker 4: Fluke play.
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Speaker 2: Fluke play. I didn't think Arch was playing badly.
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Speaker 3: Then Arch started to push a little bit, probably made
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Speaker 3: some throws that were ill-advised.
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Speaker 2: I thought Arch looked okay.
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Speaker 3: And then the rest of the team caught up with him.
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Speaker 3: So I was not shocked that Texas came back.
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Speaker 4: Same here. You and I are texting during this game,
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Speaker 4: watching the different games. And at halftime, I said, Texas
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Speaker 4: is a little closer than 20-3. They can't have this
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Speaker 4: many dismantling things. But that fourth quarter, gutsy Sark calls
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Speaker 4: on fourth down. Arch getting it done.
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Speaker 2: They did it.
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Speaker 4: And it's like you've talked about before. Some teams step
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Speaker 4: off the gas when they've got to hit it. Julian
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Speaker 4: Sane could have hit a touchdown to close that one out.
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Speaker 4: about a foot high, and that cost him the game.
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Speaker 4: That's one of those games. Stat-wise, Arch Manning, not great. Performance-wise, great.
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Speaker 3: I would say good, because he definitely was not great
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Speaker 3: in the first half. Definitely clutch. Ohio State missed a
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Speaker 3: field goal. That was a total killer as well.
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Speaker 4: Before we break, who would you rather stand next to
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Speaker 4: on the sidelines during a big Texas game? Kevin Durant,
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Speaker 4: Matt McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, or any Manning family member?
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Speaker 2: All right, all right. It's got to be McConaughey, right?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because of the after party?
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 3: All right, coming up on Not So Fast, are you
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Speaker 3: all in on the Chicago Bears after yesterday's 8TD explosion? Paul,
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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure about it, even though he is
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Speaker 3: a Bears fan. That's next, Not So Fast.
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Speaker 4: Midday pick-me-up, Perloff. This is like a double shot of espresso.
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Speaker 4: Watch this guy. This is my guy, Commander Special Teamer
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Speaker 4: Tyler Owens. He became a star yesterday off this plate.
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Speaker 3: Look.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: Hand on the neck, hand on the neck. Watch this.
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Speaker 4: Lift and bango!
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Speaker 2: There is not a single thing to talk to about
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Speaker 2: the commanders. Except that play.
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Speaker 3: That was their only highlight of the game, basically.
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Speaker 4: Tyler Owens, that clip is getting all over the place.
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Speaker 4: He's becoming a star. Got banged up later. Commander's uniform's
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Speaker 4: a little better. A little clean up.
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Speaker 2: Maybe. But I don't know if Star, for that one play,
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Speaker 2: is he in NFL lore?
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Speaker 4: Not NFL lore, but special teams Monday morning social media lore.
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Speaker 2: Love it.
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Speaker 4: We'll take that. All right, it's time for Warm Takes.
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Speaker 4: We do it every day on Not So Fast on Pabst.
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Speaker 4: He's Perloff. My first warm take.
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Speaker 2: Are you ready?
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Speaker 4: Let me stretch out here, Pearl.
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Speaker 2: All right. It's a big one. First NFL Monday.
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Speaker 4: Shake it off. I'm going to speak today as a
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Speaker 4: representative of Bears Nation. I'm trying to be objective here.
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Speaker 4: But I've been working all night to try to say
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Speaker 4: the phrase, the Bears almost scored 60 week one of
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Speaker 4: the NFL season. It's not really working in my mind
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Speaker 4: and it won't really get to my mouth. It's like
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Speaker 4: I'm having a moment where I can't speak. And it
12:44
Speaker 4: doesn't make sense to a Bears fan. If you're a
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Speaker 4: Bears fan, you've conditioned to scoring 17 points and trying
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Speaker 4: to steal a win or winning with defense. And I
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Speaker 4: know it's the Carolina Panthers, but they were not the
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Speaker 4: worst defensive team. They're bottom of the half. So it's
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Speaker 4: very confusing for a Bears fan to see this happen.
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Speaker 4: Bears fans are happy with 30 points, happy with 25 points.
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Speaker 4: So should you be a break pumper? I think everybody
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Speaker 4: week one should be a break pumper. What you see
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Speaker 4: week one is an anomaly. It doesn't usually hold up.
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Speaker 4: What usually happens the next week, the Bears would score
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Speaker 4: 17 in a battle and lose at the buzzer. And
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Speaker 4: that's what happens here. So While you have to be
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Speaker 4: excited and you have to see that offense, but Ben
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Speaker 4: Johnson said this in the preseason. He said, we want
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Speaker 4: to be the highest scoring offense in the league, and historically.
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Speaker 4: So he called his shot, and everyone was ready to jab.
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Speaker 4: The claws were out, the Packers media, all the different media.
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Speaker 4: But then you score 59, you leave everyone nowhere to go.
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Speaker 4: So Ben Johnson, he called his shot. Week one, we'll
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Speaker 4: see how it plays out.
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Speaker 3: A couple things. I am obviously a break pumper.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Am I rooting against your team because I don't want
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Speaker 3: you to come in here gloating on Monday morning?
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Speaker 2: Perhaps.
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Speaker 4: Understandable.
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Speaker 3: The Panthers were 14th in defense last year, but that's
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Speaker 3: in the NFC South.
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Speaker 2: So you sort of weight that.
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Speaker 4: You prorate that.
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Speaker 3: And two years ago, they let up 47 to the
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Speaker 3: Saints in week one. And then the Saints didn't score
13:59
Speaker 3: 47 points the rest of the season. So the Panthers
14:01
Speaker 3: might stink on defense. That is a big part of it.
14:03
Speaker 4: But not 59 points stink.
14:05
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, the Bears let the Panthers back
14:08
Speaker 3: in that game.
14:08
Speaker 2: Bryce Young looked like Alabama Bryce Young. So the Bears
14:11
Speaker 2: had to keep on.
14:12
Speaker 3: Jacksonville could have scored 59 against Cleveland, but there was
14:14
Speaker 3: no need to. They sort of took their foot off
14:16
Speaker 3: the gas. So, again, I am definitely break pumping. And
14:20
Speaker 3: I think week two against Minnesota, that's a much better test.
14:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, the other thing is the Bears may need to
14:25
Speaker 4: score 40-plus a game because the defense, for every pick
14:28
Speaker 4: they get, they give up three touches.
14:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried about the defense. I mean, listen, they
14:31
Speaker 2: are going to be good. There's no doubt. You should
14:32
Speaker 2: be excited.
14:33
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to talk about a team that is
14:35
Speaker 3: not excited at all, and that is in L.A., and
14:36
Speaker 3: that is the Chargers. And I'm mad at the Chargers
14:39
Speaker 3: for many reasons. I entered a huge survivor pool, and
14:43
Speaker 3: I picked the Chargers to beat the Cardinals in Week 1.
14:46
Speaker 2: I am officially out. They lost 26-14.
14:50
Speaker 3: And all the things that Jim Harbaugh, the coach, said
14:53
Speaker 3: in the preseason did not come true. He said that
14:56
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert was not just going to be good, but
14:59
Speaker 3: the greatest quarterback of all time.
15:00
Speaker 2: Here's Harbaugh on Michael Irvin's podcast.
15:02
Speaker 3: Allow me to call my shot like Babe Ruth pointing
15:05
Speaker 3: his bat over a center field.
15:06
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, when it's all said and done.
15:08
Speaker 3: When his career comes to an end, I predict he
15:10
Speaker 3: will be known as the greatest, best ever to play
15:13
Speaker 3: the position of quarterback.
15:15
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh not mincing words there.
15:17
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel, the new offensive coordinator, was supposed to be
15:19
Speaker 3: the wonder kid who was going to fix everything with
15:21
Speaker 3: the Chargers offense. They looked terrible. The team looked terrible.
15:25
Speaker 3: They were going against one of the worst defenses in
15:27
Speaker 3: the NFL, the Arizona Cardinals. The Cardinals beat them up,
15:30
Speaker 3: dominated them in every phase of the game. Here's the
15:33
Speaker 3: one YOLO shot they took at the end of the game,
15:36
Speaker 3: and it did.
15:37
Speaker 2: Not work out.
15:38
Speaker 3: So the Chargers not only killed me in the survivor pool,
15:40
Speaker 3: I'm down on the team. I'm completely overreacting on this
15:44
Speaker 3: because Justin Herbert is not going to be the greatest
15:46
Speaker 3: quarterback of all time. He's not going to challenge Joe
15:48
Speaker 3: Montana and Tom Brady. He's okay, but he needs protection.
15:51
Speaker 3: He has no weapons.
15:52
Speaker 4: He's not even the best quarterback in Chargers' recent history.
15:55
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even have to go back to
15:56
Speaker 4: Dan Fouts. I mean, Stan Humphreys had more success in
15:59
Speaker 4: the playoffs. I mean, I think that's a fact. Now,
16:01
Speaker 4: he doesn't look as good. But, yeah, the Chargers might
16:03
Speaker 4: be underrated for how frustrating of a franchise they are.
16:06
Speaker 4: Back in the day, Antonio Gates and Tomlinson, and they
16:08
Speaker 4: have Breeze on the roster. You have Phil Rivers. And
16:11
Speaker 4: this roster is very good. A very good defense. O'Marion Hampton. Now,
16:14
Speaker 4: it's week one, but that's a team you're playing that
16:16
Speaker 4: probably doesn't want to win. And they made Jacoby Brissett
16:19
Speaker 4: look good. And it's a very frustrating franchise. Also, they're
16:22
Speaker 4: like the hot girl who never shows up. Because they
16:25
Speaker 4: look so good in their uniforms. Justin Herbert looks the
16:27
Speaker 4: part of the WB star quarterback with great hair. And
16:31
Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh, he always wins. Like, historically.
16:35
Speaker 2: Everywhere.
16:35
Speaker 4: So it's even more frustrating because everything's in place.
16:38
Speaker 3: By the way, it's very not so fast that you
16:40
Speaker 3: went to Stan Humphreys and not Phillip Rivers.
16:42
Speaker 2: Maybe a little more recent. I mean, okay.
16:44
Speaker 4: I'm a deep cut guy. All right. Here's my next
16:47
Speaker 4: warm take.
16:47
Speaker 2: Here it is.
16:48
Speaker 4: Oregon football got by Boise week one. No big deal.
16:51
Speaker 4: Great second half. Dante Moore, Heisman candidate and a top
16:54
Speaker 4: five draft pick supposedly for the NFL draft. That was
16:58
Speaker 4: not so good. Oregon State last week lost to Tulsa
17:01
Speaker 4: at home. And Tulsa is more of a basketball school.
17:05
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State handled them. They beat them. It wasn't luck.
17:07
Speaker 4: It wasn't a fluke. And Dante Moore did very little
17:10
Speaker 4: in the second half to help Oregon get out of
17:12
Speaker 4: this mess that they were in. Look, can they right
17:14
Speaker 4: the ship? They're not out of the playoffs. There's a
17:16
Speaker 4: long way to go. It's an ugly victory. Ugly loss,
17:19
Speaker 4: I should say. The bigger picture is Oklahoma State. With
17:22
Speaker 4: Drew Mestermaker, who was, I think, in the band four
17:24
Speaker 4: years ago, and now is going to be in play
17:26
Speaker 4: for the first round of the NFL draft. Dante Moore,
17:30
Speaker 4: get it together. You came back for a reason. You
17:32
Speaker 4: could have stayed in the draft and been a top
17:34
Speaker 4: 20 pick.
17:34
Speaker 2: Easy.
17:35
Speaker 4: You came back for one reason, to win something, to
17:37
Speaker 4: get to the playoffs. Don't let this happen. It is
17:40
Speaker 4: on you. It's not on your coach. It's not on
17:41
Speaker 4: everybody else. You're the guy. You want to be the guy.
17:43
Speaker 4: Do the thing in the second half.
17:45
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
17:46
Speaker 3: You know, for fun, I went back to some preseason
17:48
Speaker 3: mock drafts, Paul. Not everyone had Drew Mestermaker in the
17:50
Speaker 3: first round, but the Athletics' Dane Brugler had a number
17:52
Speaker 3: eight overall to the Steelers.
17:54
Speaker 4: This guy was at North Texas last year.
17:55
Speaker 5: I know.
17:56
Speaker 3: Steelers, Drew Mestermaker, could he be the next Big Ben?
17:59
Speaker 3: He's got a Big Ben quality to me. He's fast,
18:02
Speaker 3: and he's got an arm.
18:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mestermaker sounds like a Dutch name, and I think
18:05
Speaker 4: that's big in Pennsylvania. I extrapolate, yeah. But they do
18:08
Speaker 4: love Durella.
18:10
Speaker 2: Get out of here. All right.
18:12
Speaker 3: I'm willing to go back to the NFL here. Now,
18:15
Speaker 3: there was some bad football on Sunday. People have been
18:17
Speaker 3: talking about tanking possibly for Arch Manning. It was for
18:20
Speaker 3: Dante Moore, but I agree with Paul. He might have
18:22
Speaker 3: just absolutely gone off the radar for the NFL on Saturday.
18:26
Speaker 3: But it's going to be really hard to tank this
18:28
Speaker 3: year because there are some awful teams. You can look
18:30
Speaker 3: at Cleveland. You look at Tennessee, and you look at Miami. Now,
18:34
Speaker 3: two of those teams definitely need a quarterback. Miami with
18:37
Speaker 3: Malik Willis, he looked okay, but they're going to be
18:40
Speaker 3: in the mix. Deshaun Watson was terrible. That was play
18:43
Speaker 3: one right there.
18:44
Speaker 2: He was awful.
18:46
Speaker 3: And I do not know what the Tennessee Titans are doing.
18:48
Speaker 3: New coach Robert Sala did not have control of this game.
18:51
Speaker 3: Cam Ward does not look good. It wasn't really his
18:54
Speaker 3: fault because there's no talent around him. But, Paul, let
18:56
Speaker 3: me give you some numbers here. Tennessee just had 195
18:59
Speaker 3: total yards in the game against the Jets. Cleveland was
19:01
Speaker 3: down 24-0 at halftime, then down 34-3.
19:04
Speaker 2: The Dolphins, 2-for-10 on third down. There's so many ugly statistics.
19:09
Speaker 2: But I don't know. If you want the number one
19:11
Speaker 2: pick this year, you're going to really have to work
19:12
Speaker 2: for it. I think you might have a one-win team.
19:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really ugly. And Cam Ward, at the end
19:16
Speaker 4: of last season, seemed to be picking it up a
19:18
Speaker 4: little bit. We felt good about the offseason. The Cleveland Browns,
19:21
Speaker 4: we said we liked the team's direction. You trade Miles Garrett,
19:23
Speaker 4: which you don't want to do, but you kind of
19:25
Speaker 4: had to.
19:26
Speaker 2: But that's a move for the future.
19:27
Speaker 4: It is for the future, but their presence seems so
19:29
Speaker 4: dark and ugly. And then the Miami Dolphins, I looked
19:32
Speaker 4: at their wide receiver depth chart yesterday. I didn't know
19:34
Speaker 4: any names. I thought they were friends of mine from college.
19:36
Speaker 3: No, the wide receiver depth chart is one of the
19:38
Speaker 3: funniest things ever. I mean, Malik Willis, I think, has
19:41
Speaker 3: some talent. I feel really bad for him. Came over
19:43
Speaker 3: from Green Bay. But they're looking toward the future as well.
19:46
Speaker 3: They're definitely going to draft a quarterback. To me, the
19:48
Speaker 3: interesting thing, what about 10 What if Cam Ward struggles
19:51
Speaker 3: all season and they end up with a one or
19:52
Speaker 3: two pick? There's going to be some great quarterbacks. Do
19:55
Speaker 3: they give up on last year's number one overall?
19:57
Speaker 4: Because they gave up on Malik Willis. They gave up
19:59
Speaker 4: on your boy from Kentucky.
20:00
Speaker 2: Will Levis. Will Levis.
20:01
Speaker 4: And they're going to do it again. It's like no consistency.
20:04
Speaker 2: But the number one overall to give up on him
20:06
Speaker 2: that fast, that's tough. All right.
20:07
Speaker 4: That's it. Oh, we got a little Who Said It
20:10
Speaker 4: bonus coverage. Let's play a little game called Who Said It?
20:12
Speaker 4: NFL or college-related pearl. We're going to do one real quick.
20:15
Speaker 2: Okay.
20:16
Speaker 4: Here we go. Who said this? We are 0 for
20:19
Speaker 4: last week. To have a guy like that who doesn't
20:22
Speaker 4: even get tired, I don't know how he does it.
20:24
Speaker 4: He's running the ball every play, catching it out of
20:26
Speaker 4: the backfield. I'm looking in the huddle, and he's not
20:28
Speaker 4: even breathing hard. I don't know how he does it.
20:31
Speaker 3: Okay, I will go with Jared Goff on Jameer Gibbs,
20:34
Speaker 3: although Ashton Jenner or Jameer Gibbs is subject to this.
20:37
Speaker 4: I'm going to go Cooper Rush, surprise starter for Atlanta,
20:41
Speaker 4: talking about Bisham Robinson.
20:42
Speaker 2: Good one.
20:42
Speaker 4: Thank you.
20:43
Speaker 2: Here we go.
20:46
Speaker 4: To have a guy like that, I mean, he doesn't
20:47
Speaker 4: even get tired. I don't know how he does it.
20:48
Speaker 6: He's running the ball every play, whatever.
20:51
Speaker 4: Catching it out the backfield and he's still, I'm looking
20:53
Speaker 4: in the huddle and he's not even breathing hard. I'm like,
20:54
Speaker 4: I don't know how he does it. I'm going to
20:56
Speaker 4: give you half a point for that.
20:57
Speaker 2: I think I should get three quarters of a point.
20:59
Speaker 4: Three quarters of a point. I'm giving that to you.
21:00
Speaker 4: I'm going to Ross St. Brown. Talk about Jameer Gibbs
21:02
Speaker 4: on the Lions.
21:03
Speaker 3: That's a problem though. Do we want Jameer Gibbs to
21:05
Speaker 3: be running the ball every play? I was a little
21:07
Speaker 3: worried about that. David Montgomery had a great game on
21:09
Speaker 3: Sunday as well.
21:11
Speaker 2: I think the Lions have to protect their star running.
21:13
Speaker 4: But they didn't do so in the off season. They
21:15
Speaker 4: didn't get depth. They don't have David Montgomery anymore.
21:17
Speaker 2: All right.
21:17
Speaker 4: Coming up next. Ooh, this is bonus coverage here. John
21:21
Speaker 4: Fanta of NBC Sports will join us next to talk
21:23
Speaker 4: about college football, pro football, and his new show on NBC.
21:27
Speaker 4: Stick around. Not So Fast.
21:30
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Not So Fast. I'm Perloff. He's Pabst.
21:33
Speaker 3: And, Paul, one of the great things about debuting on
21:35
Speaker 3: NBC Sports now on Peacock, we debuted the same day
21:38
Speaker 3: as John Fanta, Fanta in 60. Really proud of that. And,
21:41
Speaker 3: of course, we're a longtime fan. Fanta in 60, college
21:45
Speaker 3: football countdown, just all over NBC Sports. And been doing
21:49
Speaker 3: such an incredible job. John, it's so good to have you.
21:52
Speaker 3: How are you doing, buddy?
21:54
Speaker 5: Oh, guys, I'm doing well. I enjoyed week one of
21:58
Speaker 5: the NFL. I thought it was dramatic. I love that
22:01
Speaker 5: the windows were pretty balanced in drama. And look, the
22:05
Speaker 5: team that I'm a fan of did not ruin my
22:08
Speaker 5: entire day. It was around 108 when things sort of expired.
22:13
Speaker 4: Okay, so we're going to get the college football. Let's
22:15
Speaker 4: pull the Band-Aid on this. You grew up a Browns
22:17
Speaker 4: fan and And they weren't awful last year. Their defense
22:20
Speaker 4: looked okay. The Jared Verst trade, you kind of like
22:22
Speaker 4: the direction of the team. But that's a body blow
22:25
Speaker 4: on Sunday, isn't it?
22:27
Speaker 5: I think it's probably the most disturbing thing about this, fellas,
22:31
Speaker 5: is that I don't think that the casual would believe
22:34
Speaker 5: that the Browns have made the playoffs two of the
22:37
Speaker 5: last six years. People would find that hard to believe,
22:40
Speaker 5: and rightly so. What they're doing isn't just bad. It's
22:47
Speaker 5: worse than that because it's one thing to stink. It's
22:52
Speaker 5: another to be tone deaf about it. And they should
22:57
Speaker 5: be ashamed of what they did on Sunday afternoon. That
23:00
Speaker 5: was not National Football League caliber. At the end of
23:04
Speaker 5: the day, the NFL is an entertainment business. And if
23:09
Speaker 5: you're trying to lose football games, I get it, okay?
23:14
Speaker 5: This quarterback draft class is stacked with people. But the
23:18
Speaker 5: owner of this team, Jimmy Haslam, came out in early
23:21
Speaker 5: August and said, if it were me betting on it,
23:25
Speaker 5: I'd take us over five and a half wins. Just
23:28
Speaker 5: stop talking.
23:29
Speaker 2: Just stop talking.
23:30
Speaker 5: He comes out and says that. This franchise is close
23:34
Speaker 5: to 80 games under. 500 since his ownership group took over.
23:39
Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson couldn't play in 2023. In what world, in
23:45
Speaker 5: what world is any National Football League player who couldn't
23:49
Speaker 5: play their position three years ago still in the league?
23:53
Speaker 5: It is the worst quarterback room in the NFL. Even, like,
23:57
Speaker 5: I watch these other teams. Jacoby Brissett, Geno Smith, Kirk Cousins. Like,
24:02
Speaker 5: they're functional. They're functional. The Browns put the fun in dysfunctional.
24:09
Speaker 2: John, when do they go to Shador Sanders?
24:12
Speaker 5: Should have happened already, Andrew. I will say this until
24:16
Speaker 5: I'm blue in the face, and I feel like a
24:20
Speaker 5: lot of outsiders maybe don't believe me. I think you two,
24:24
Speaker 5: I'm curious to see if you do believe me. I'm
24:27
Speaker 5: telling you guys right now. He, Watson, cannot start the
24:33
Speaker 5: home opener for the Browns, which is less than two
24:36
Speaker 5: weeks from now. It's against the Panthers. He cannot start
24:41
Speaker 5: that game. He cannot start that game. And it's not
24:45
Speaker 5: even about performance, guys. Like, well, I'm way past that.
24:48
Speaker 2: John, you're right.
24:48
Speaker 4: It's like pressing a bad hand. They made a horrible decision.
24:51
Speaker 4: They keep doubling down on this decision. It feels like
24:54
Speaker 4: a franchise. If you look at the Knicks 10 years ago,
24:56
Speaker 4: they somehow went from feeble and ownership that's a mess
24:59
Speaker 4: to somehow getting into title. It's hard to picture, but
25:02
Speaker 4: the Browns need to clear the books with this guy,
25:05
Speaker 4: draft a good quarterback next year, and they've got a
25:07
Speaker 4: lot of draft capital. Absolutely.
25:10
Speaker 5: The Browns are not– that's the other frustrating thing. They're
25:12
Speaker 5: not devoid of talent. But you can sense it from
25:15
Speaker 5: that locker room. They don't believe in him. Nobody does.
25:21
Speaker 5: And there's people getting paid millions of dollars that say
25:23
Speaker 5: they still believe in this guy all because of $ 230 million.
25:26
Speaker 5: And when I say Watson can't play the home opener–
25:29
Speaker 5: It's not because he can no longer play. It's because
25:33
Speaker 5: if I were the NFL, I'd be a little bit
25:35
Speaker 5: concerned about the scene inside that stadium. You both know
25:39
Speaker 5: passionate fan bases. Cleveland Browns fans, they have no filter.
25:43
Speaker 5: They have no control.
25:45
Speaker 1: I'm worried.
25:46
Speaker 5: I'm worried about that scene if he starts that game.
25:48
Speaker 1: I really am.
25:50
Speaker 3: John, I was actually worried about the 2027 Browns quarterback
25:53
Speaker 3: on Saturday night when Arch Manning was trailing against Ohio State.
25:58
Speaker 3: Take us into the control room during Saturday night. You
26:01
Speaker 3: had Iowa, Iowa State on NBC, and Texas, Ohio State.
26:04
Speaker 3: It was a crazy night.
26:06
Speaker 5: Well, you know, Chris Sims and Joshua Perry are on
26:08
Speaker 5: our panel, so Nicole Auerbeck and I were trying to
26:10
Speaker 5: keep them separate from each other. They both had their
26:13
Speaker 5: letterman's jackets on. And Perry, I mean, this was the
26:16
Speaker 5: total 180, guys. Perry had his... His feet kicked back.
26:20
Speaker 5: He was loving what he was seeing. When it was 23-3, and,
26:25
Speaker 5: you know, it's one thing to say it's okay. Like,
26:29
Speaker 5: if a bear does you know what in the woods,
26:30
Speaker 5: do people believe it? But I don't know about you two,
26:33
Speaker 5: but watching the game, I thought to myself, man, if
26:35
Speaker 5: Texas scores a touchdown. Things are going to get interesting here.
26:40
Speaker 5: Because Ohio State, even though they were up 20, they
26:42
Speaker 5: got gift-wrapped that lead. They got gift-wrapped that lead. They
26:45
Speaker 5: were kind of conservative all night. The one guy that
26:48
Speaker 5: was making plays was Jeremiah Smith. But they weren't running
26:51
Speaker 5: the ball great. They were not. And their defense was performing,
26:55
Speaker 5: but the heat, I thought, could get to them. It did.
26:59
Speaker 3: Shocking.
26:59
Speaker 5: I mean, we are Cy Hawk ended before this game.
27:03
Speaker 5: Our entire crew went right back into the game screening room,
27:07
Speaker 5: you know, after working a 12 hour day and we
27:09
Speaker 5: had to make sure, hey, we need to see how
27:11
Speaker 5: this thing closes. It's as shocked as I've been watching
27:15
Speaker 5: a fourth quarter of a game. The two, not one,
27:18
Speaker 5: but two fourth down conversions, penalties, conservative play calling. It's
27:24
Speaker 5: a really bad loss for Ryan Day. I mean, there's no–
27:27
Speaker 5: Ohio State lost this.
27:28
Speaker 4: Game to me. John, I thought you did a great
27:32
Speaker 4: job at halftime kind of going counter, saying how do
27:34
Speaker 4: they get back, not declaring it over. So many people,
27:37
Speaker 4: especially on social media, declare a game over. Tonight you
27:39
Speaker 4: have Herb Street on Fan 1060, so you can chop
27:42
Speaker 4: that up altogether. You cover a lot of Big Ten.
27:44
Speaker 4: You're hosting the Big Ten shows. How much of a
27:47
Speaker 4: cleanup or a necessary cleanup was the Michigan win over Oklahoma?
27:52
Speaker 7: Oof.
27:53
Speaker 5: Well, when you saw the line come out for the game,
27:57
Speaker 5: my brain went to, all right, something's up here. This
27:59
Speaker 5: is going to be a football game. They're going to
28:01
Speaker 5: hang around. But I didn't think that Michigan could conceivably
28:04
Speaker 5: win the game. And the reason why was because Western
28:07
Speaker 5: Michigan pushed them around. They pushed them around. At the
28:09
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, Michigan lost the game at the line
28:12
Speaker 5: of scrimmage. I don't know if they really won. They
28:15
Speaker 5: won it over Oklahoma. Did they win it significantly?
28:18
Speaker 6: No.
28:19
Speaker 5: But Bryce Underwood was a better runner than John Mateer.
28:22
Speaker 5: And that was the difference in the football game. Oklahoma,
28:27
Speaker 5: under Brent Venables, I feel like we're not even giving
28:30
Speaker 5: them much credit for the playoff appearance last year because
28:34
Speaker 5: they ended up unraveling, and they weren't an easy– they
28:37
Speaker 5: weren't a fun watch. And offensively, they're kind of a
28:39
Speaker 5: car stuck in neutral. And that's– it was the perfect–
28:44
Speaker 5: if you were to select any top 15 team this
28:47
Speaker 5: past Saturday for Michigan to play– I think he would
28:49
Speaker 5: have drafted Oklahoma because of how offensively slow they are
28:53
Speaker 5: at times. And it showed. The Big Ten's not off
28:56
Speaker 5: to a good start, but that on Saturday, that's a
29:00
Speaker 5: bad loss for the SEC to take. If you thought
29:02
Speaker 5: Oklahoma was the third or fourth best team in your league,
29:04
Speaker 5: that's a tough way to lose because they look terrible.
29:08
Speaker 3: You know, another favorite in the Big Ten, Oregon. Lost
29:11
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State. I was already worried about Oregon after week one.
29:16
Speaker 5: All right.
29:17
Speaker 2: Is there any chance they turn around after what happened
29:19
Speaker 2: on Saturday?
29:20
Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to twist it on you guys and
29:22
Speaker 5: give you a not so fast here. OK, I'm going
29:25
Speaker 5: to take the car like this and I'm going to
29:28
Speaker 5: say when that game ended, my brain went to. If
29:34
Speaker 5: Lincoln Wiley at USC is ever going to work, USC
29:37
Speaker 5: beats Oregon a week from Saturday.
29:39
Speaker 2: At the Coliseum.
29:40
Speaker 5: That is it, plain and simple. That's where my brain went, Andrew.
29:44
Speaker 5: My brain did not go to Oregon. It went to,
29:47
Speaker 5: we circled this date at the end of September as
29:50
Speaker 5: USC's potential breakthrough night. They have been waiting for a
29:53
Speaker 5: night of validation. That game actually got more interesting with
29:58
Speaker 5: Oregon now having a loss because Oregon has to win
30:00
Speaker 5: the game. They can't lose the game. They're still going
30:03
Speaker 5: to have Ohio State. They're still going to have Indiana.
30:05
Speaker 5: Conventional wisdom says they're going to lose one of those
30:07
Speaker 5: football games. They can't be 9-3 with one of those
30:09
Speaker 5: three losses being to Oklahoma State. So will they recover?
30:15
Speaker 5: I don't think they will. I don't like the way
30:20
Speaker 5: that they're playing. I know it's two games in, but
30:22
Speaker 5: there are so many issues across the board. And their defense,
30:26
Speaker 5: I mean, it got shredded. Jaden Maiava and USC could
30:29
Speaker 5: have a field day in LA.
30:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point. And the USC freshman talent,
30:34
Speaker 4: they've had a couple games to get ready. All right,
30:36
Speaker 4: your show, Phantoms 60, 6 p.m. Eastern, NBC Sports Now, Peacock, NBCSN.
30:42
Speaker 4: We are teammates now, JF, as I call you, JF.
30:44
Speaker 4: Your new show, you have an answer machine. That answer
30:48
Speaker 4: machine is hot. It's white hot, and you're getting some
30:51
Speaker 4: questionable calls. And I mean that in a good way, right?
30:53
Speaker 5: Yeah. We are getting questionable calls. Even Paul Pabst happened
30:57
Speaker 5: to call the show and ask what the loudest atmosphere was.
31:01
Speaker 5: And I'll keep submitting questions to you guys. I want
31:03
Speaker 5: to come in a day and ask you, I love
31:06
Speaker 5: your food segment now of going to different restaurants around
31:10
Speaker 5: the country and showcasing those. But really happy to be
31:14
Speaker 5: teammates with you guys and loving what you're doing. And
31:16
Speaker 5: I appreciate the kindness back. And Paul, Andrew, the voicemail
31:20
Speaker 5: box is open anytime. Thank you both for not leaving
31:23
Speaker 5: condolences for my football team since the services had already passed.
31:27
Speaker 5: We didn't even take until week one for that to happen.
31:29
Speaker 5: I very much appreciate it.
31:30
Speaker 3: John, I was going to say, we'll have you in
31:31
Speaker 3: after a Browns win, but we want you in sooner
31:33
Speaker 3: than that.
31:34
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a shot.
31:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be a little while from now. So
31:38
Speaker 5: there's no guarantees on when that appearance would come. So
31:41
Speaker 5: let's not put that in writing for a while.
31:43
Speaker 3: Awesome. Thanks, buddy.
31:44
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.
31:45
Speaker 4: See you, Jeff.
31:46
Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me.
31:48
Speaker 2: I love Jon Fanta's passion for the Browns, Paul. It's
31:51
Speaker 2: hard to do. It is.
31:52
Speaker 4: You've got to be consistent. He's a young man. You've
31:55
Speaker 4: got to think once in your lifetime it's got to
31:57
Speaker 4: work out. Like being a Cubs fan, once in your lifetime,
31:59
Speaker 4: Browns fan, it's going to be a long life.
32:02
Speaker 3: Fanta and 60 Tonight, Jon Gruden and Kirk Herbstreit. All right,
32:04
Speaker 3: coming up next on Not So Fast, we go to
32:07
Speaker 3: the clip joint. Big debate about a controversial call that
32:11
Speaker 3: Paul and I had no idea about.
32:13
Speaker 2: That's next on Not So Fast.
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Speaker 6: How does this happen in the NFL in 2026 that
32:24
Speaker 6: I don't know the rules? Anybody, raise your hand now. Marvin, Dylan,
32:28
Speaker 6: did you know the rule that was invoked nine minutes
32:31
Speaker 6: to go in the second quarter on this Jared Goff
32:34
Speaker 6: play with the ball going backwards?
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Speaker 4: Marvin, no?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Dylan? Did not. Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 1: Paulie?
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Speaker 4: No, and when it was explained, I know you're going
32:43
Speaker 4: to play the cut, I was sitting there going, is
32:45
Speaker 4: this new?
32:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: Right, because you grew up, grandma told you, ball goes backwards.
32:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, learned that when I was four.
32:51
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Fritzie?
32:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had no idea.
32:54
Speaker 2: I thought that was a fun one.
32:55
Speaker 6: So we're 0 for 5 here, and not only 0
32:57
Speaker 6: for 5, I'm watching the game live, and then I
32:59
Speaker 6: flipped over, Red Zone had Pereira on TV live too,
33:02
Speaker 6: so we all heard this in real time.
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Speaker 4: A rule, and then on the feed.
33:07
Speaker 6: I mean, this is a moment in the game that
33:10
Speaker 6: is a touchdown for the New Orleans Saints.
33:14
Speaker 4: Back on Not So Fast, Paps and Pearl off here
33:17
Speaker 4: at NBC Sports Now. This is the clip joint. That
33:18
Speaker 4: was Tony Reale and the crew a couple hours ago
33:21
Speaker 4: on the Dan Pats show, chopping up that play halfway
33:24
Speaker 4: through the Saints-Lions game. Pearl, I'm going to yield the
33:27
Speaker 4: floor to you. What did you see on that play?
33:30
Speaker 2: I don't want the floor.
33:31
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't want the floor. This is
33:32
Speaker 4: so obvious. You go first.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so they.
33:36
Speaker 3: Kind of ruled that it was his intention, Jared Goff's intention,
33:39
Speaker 3: to throw the ball forward. According to the rule book,
33:41
Speaker 3: and this is not a new rule, Paul, this is
33:44
Speaker 3: actually a forward pass. And Mike Pereira, of course, explained it,
33:48
Speaker 3: Fox's officiating expert. He said, Goff had started his throwing motion,
33:52
Speaker 3: throwing motion starts, hand going up, then it's hit, ball comes.
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Speaker 2: Loose, his intent was to throw it forward.
33:58
Speaker 3: And since that motion had already started, which was a
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Speaker 3: bit controversial, that's going to be a forward pass no
34:03
Speaker 3: matter where it lands. Then if you went on social media, Paul,
34:05
Speaker 3: there was about 100 clips of Similar cases where they
34:09
Speaker 3: did not.
34:09
Speaker 2: Call it a forward pass, where they called that exact
34:11
Speaker 2: play a fumble.
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Speaker 4: I have so many issues with this. First of all,
34:14
Speaker 4: his intent has nothing to do with this. I assume
34:16
Speaker 4: every quarterback is intending to throw the ball forward. Hence,
34:20
Speaker 4: if it was a forward pass, by definition, it would
34:22
Speaker 4: have gone forward. Cracked, Andrew. Here's the thing. The other
34:26
Speaker 4: thing is, I thought that if a defensive lineman or
34:29
Speaker 4: a defender hits the quarterback and the ball goes squirrelly,
34:33
Speaker 4: It's almost a fumble by default, even if it went
34:36
Speaker 4: forward and rolled. I've seen that called the past few years.
34:39
Speaker 4: This is not a forward pass. His intent has nothing
34:41
Speaker 4: to do with it. If it goes backwards, by definition,
34:44
Speaker 4: it's a lateral. I mean, this is day one football stuff.
34:47
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.
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Speaker 3: Okay, say I had the football like this, and I
34:50
Speaker 3: was throwing forward. Someone knocked my arm, and it went
34:52
Speaker 3: like that. You might call that a forward pass.
34:55
Speaker 4: I wouldn't because it's still at some juncture has to
34:58
Speaker 4: go forward while leaving your hand. Let's say it goes
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Speaker 4: forward and batted backward. It's by forward. But if it
35:04
Speaker 4: never goes forward, it can only be one other thing,
35:06
Speaker 4: a lateral, which is unintentional lateral, or you can define
35:10
Speaker 4: it as a fumble. If I'm the Saints, I don't
35:12
Speaker 4: know how much they complained about this, but this is debilitating.
35:15
Speaker 4: They went in for a touchdown this play. This wasn't
35:16
Speaker 4: just some average scrum.
35:18
Speaker 2: Okay, at least they didn't add a second to the
35:20
Speaker 2: clock like college football. Can we at least give the
35:22
Speaker 2: NFL credit for that?
35:23
Speaker 4: It does feel like they invented a new rule in
35:25
Speaker 4: the offseason and just happened to launch it on us
35:27
Speaker 4: Americans in the middle of a random game. They're like, hey, Lions-Saints-
35:32
Speaker 4: No one's really paying attention to that one. Let's just
35:34
Speaker 4: jack this rule into you.
35:35
Speaker 2: It's not a new rule. That's it. Okay. It's not.
35:38
Speaker 3: Well, you said it like they put it in March quietly,
35:40
Speaker 3: the owners meeting. That's not what happened.
35:41
Speaker 4: I think that's exactly what happened.
35:43
Speaker 2: That's not what happened. Okay.
35:44
Speaker 4: They've never called this rule. Okay. Then for the past
35:47
Speaker 4: decade or so, they've had this rule and never used it.
35:50
Speaker 2: You got to look into that. I don't think it's
35:52
Speaker 2: a new rule. Actually, Mike Pereira said like, yeah, of course,
35:54
Speaker 2: his intention. And everyone said his intention was.
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Speaker 4: Of course his intention is to throw it forward. That's
35:59
Speaker 4: what quarterbacks do for a living. All right, next up,
36:01
Speaker 4: Texas coach Steve Sarkeesian. Oh, he had an interesting weekend. Now,
36:05
Speaker 4: at halftime, he probably wasn't thinking that he was going
36:07
Speaker 4: to have a really good postgame news conference. And then
36:09
Speaker 4: his team came back. They beat Ryan Day in a
36:12
Speaker 4: great Saturday night game. And here's Sark after the game.
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Speaker 8: I definitely think it was helpful because we could be
36:19
Speaker 8: like some other teams and we could play Jones Jr.
36:22
Speaker 8: high tonight and win 66 to nothing. And I don't
36:25
Speaker 8: know what that does for us. What I think it
36:27
Speaker 8: did for us tonight is we found out that we can.
36:31
Speaker 8: And we've been close, and we've been knocking on the door.
36:34
Speaker 8: And so I do think that that's helpful for us,
36:37
Speaker 8: that we got an opportunity to play in a game
36:39
Speaker 8: like this before we got into conference play against a
36:43
Speaker 8: lead opponent and come out on top. Surely that's helpful
36:48
Speaker 8: for us moving forward from a mentality standpoint.
36:50
Speaker 4: Pearl, no matter what you think of Texas football and Sark,
36:52
Speaker 4: you've got to love what he says there. More big games,
36:55
Speaker 4: prime time against big opponents. They're not scared to schedule
36:58
Speaker 4: him at Texas. They still played Texas State last week.
37:00
Speaker 4: He kind of glazed over that one, Sark. But, yes,
37:03
Speaker 4: you've got to agree with him there.
37:04
Speaker 3: Well, last year, 14-7 loss to Ohio State in Columbus
37:07
Speaker 3: probably cost them the playoff because they had three losses
37:09
Speaker 3: with two losses they get in.
37:10
Speaker 4: Sure.
37:11
Speaker 2: I still think overall college football is... needs to be
37:14
Speaker 2: more lenient on these teams who lose.
37:16
Speaker 3: Those out-of-conference games. Because I want to see Texas-Ohio State
37:19
Speaker 3: every weekend. Unfortunately, you don't get that. Right.
37:21
Speaker 4: And I don't think Ohio State should be dinged that
37:23
Speaker 4: much for a loss. They played heavyweight on the road
37:26
Speaker 4: and came close to winning that game. A player two
37:28
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter and they win that game. But
37:30
Speaker 4: I like what Sark is saying there. Now, Will he
37:33
Speaker 4: keep doing so going forward? Will he schedule out of conference?
37:35
Speaker 4: Will he schedule USC again and all those big weights?
37:38
Speaker 2: Well, a big part of it, do they go to
37:39
Speaker 2: 24 teams in the playoff?
37:40
Speaker 3: Then you can schedule anybody because a team like Texas
37:43
Speaker 3: is pretty much guaranteed to make it in. The big
37:46
Speaker 3: story is here, they beat Ohio State. That was massive
37:48
Speaker 3: for this program.
37:49
Speaker 4: I wonder what he's thinking at halftime. I wonder if
37:51
Speaker 4: you're a coach at halftime, do you ever think, God,
37:53
Speaker 4: I don't look forward to that news conference after the
37:55
Speaker 4: game because you're at home, all the stars are out,
37:57
Speaker 4: and you laid an egg in the first half.
37:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, he was probably just as surprised
38:01
Speaker 3: as the rest of us. They came away with it.
38:03
Speaker 2: Okay, if you want to feel better about yourself, I advise.
38:06
Speaker 3: You watch this next clip joint because Cleveland Browns' Todd
38:09
Speaker 3: Munkin had a worse day than pretty much anybody.
38:12
Speaker 2: He commented on the quarterback situation, which is not good.
38:17
Speaker 7: I'm sure as hell not firing me. I'm not firing
38:19
Speaker 7: our staff. I'm not giving it all of our players.
38:22
Speaker 7: So he happens to be one of 53. We'll analyze
38:24
Speaker 7: everything that we do. It's not just him.
38:26
Speaker 1: Okay.
38:26
Speaker 7: We're, we're putting this on Deshaun.
38:29
Speaker 3: Okay.
38:30
Speaker 7: Which is unfair.
38:31
Speaker 1: Okay.
38:32
Speaker 7: And whatever there is externally doesn't matter to me. That
38:36
Speaker 7: doesn't affect me. That has nothing to do with my decision-making.
38:40
Speaker 4: I rarely feel bad for people who make $ 5 million
38:43
Speaker 4: a year, but this guy, he's got Tom Izzo voice
38:45
Speaker 4: and it's September and, He looks like a school teacher
38:48
Speaker 4: at the end of a hard school year. He looks
38:49
Speaker 4: like worn out. It's September 11th, 12th, 13th.
38:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what? He did bring some of this
38:55
Speaker 2: on himself. By taking the job? Yes, that. He could
38:59
Speaker 2: have said no.
39:00
Speaker 3: But also, we watched the Browns in the preseason, and
39:02
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders was playing better than Deshaun Watson. But Deshaun
39:06
Speaker 3: Watson's making all this money, and the owner said, I'm
39:08
Speaker 3: paying this guy $ 220 million to at least give him
39:11
Speaker 3: some starts.
39:11
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because you and
39:13
Speaker 4: I talked about this before, before the show even started
39:15
Speaker 4: not so fast. And we said, I don't believe Todd Munkin,
39:19
Speaker 4: by choice, would start Deshaun Watson, because that's not a
39:22
Speaker 4: better football decision. Deshaun Watson has not looked good the
39:24
Speaker 4: past few years and hasn't really been that healthy. I
39:27
Speaker 4: think this was a management ownership decision to start. Deshaun Watson.
39:30
Speaker 4: They paid all this money, and they're trying to right
39:33
Speaker 4: a four-year wrong. and hoping they would play well. He stinks.
39:37
Speaker 4: He's overpaid, he's unlikable, and he's got lots of baggage.
39:40
Speaker 4: Let's start this guy. Go ahead, Todd Munkin, you figure
39:42
Speaker 4: it out.
39:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about the theory that they're tanking and he
39:46
Speaker 3: can lose more games than he can win? Even though, listen,
39:48
Speaker 3: he was bad. He picked it up a little bit
39:50
Speaker 3: in the second half. I'm not sure any quarterback would
39:52
Speaker 3: win games in that situation. The team is not good.
39:54
Speaker 4: Well, if it's organizational tanking, then Todd Munkin has to
39:56
Speaker 4: say to management at some point, hey, okay, I'll do this,
39:59
Speaker 4: but my contract is set for next year. If we
40:02
Speaker 4: go 0-17, which is actually in play... I'm guaranteed I
40:05
Speaker 4: have a job next year because if I tank for you,
40:07
Speaker 4: you know what will happen. If you get the number
40:09
Speaker 4: one pick, all of a sudden this guy wants that job,
40:11
Speaker 4: that guy wants that job, and he's one and done.
40:13
Speaker 3: Well, just to keep it within the clip joint, what
40:15
Speaker 3: if Arch Manning is the number one pick and he says,
40:17
Speaker 3: let's bring Sark into the NFL.
40:19
Speaker 2: I like Steve Sharkeesian.
40:21
Speaker 3: Then Todd Munkin gets $ 5 million for one year and
40:23
Speaker 3: walks away. I mean, again, this is not a good
40:26
Speaker 3: weekend for him.
40:27
Speaker 2: He's in a terrible spot.
40:28
Speaker 4: It's only four months left to go, Coach. All right,
40:30
Speaker 4: coming up next. It's time for constructive criticism, the feel-good,
40:34
Speaker 4: and much, much more. Stick around. Not So Fast after
40:36
Speaker 4: the break.
40:37
Speaker 3: Back on Not So Fast, I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst,
40:40
Speaker 3: NBC Sports Now, Peacock. Paul, the big game tonight. Patrick
40:44
Speaker 3: Mahomes is back.
40:45
Speaker 2: The Chiefs host the Broncos.
40:47
Speaker 4: What do you expect? This is a hammer Monday night
40:49
Speaker 4: game right off the gate. This is fantastic. You know,
40:51
Speaker 4: you said before when Mahomes was hurt and kind of
40:53
Speaker 4: not sure whether he was going to play the first month,
40:56
Speaker 4: you've got to face that pass rush, Nick Benito and
40:58
Speaker 4: the crew. They're as good as... As good as the Dolphins,
41:02
Speaker 4: I should say as good as the Texans. They're as
41:03
Speaker 4: good as anybody with the pass rush.
41:05
Speaker 2: They've led the league in sacks the last two years.
41:07
Speaker 2: Nick Benito is fired.
41:08
Speaker 4: So if you're a Chiefs fan, it's like an exciting
41:10
Speaker 4: but concerning game.
41:11
Speaker 3: So if you're the Chiefs, you want to hand the
41:14
Speaker 3: ball off a lot. You've got Ken Walker from the Seahawks.
41:16
Speaker 4: Ken Walker.
41:18
Speaker 3: Ken Walker, as he is on the depth chart, the
41:20
Speaker 3: official depth chart, formerly Kenneth Walker. And they have a rookie,
41:23
Speaker 3: Emma Johnson, who's really good at running back. So I
41:25
Speaker 3: think they're practicing all August with Patrick Mahomes under center,
41:29
Speaker 3: which is not usual for him. They want to run, run, run,
41:33
Speaker 3: and not let Nick Bonito and everybody run after Patrick Mahomes.
41:36
Speaker 4: And how funny would it be, after all these teams
41:38
Speaker 4: scoring 30 on Sunday, that this is another game where
41:41
Speaker 4: the two teams who score points for a living go
41:43
Speaker 4: under 30, kind of like the Rams went 7th.
41:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see Jalen Waddell.
41:47
Speaker 3: To me, the Broncos adding the former Dolphins wide receiver,
41:51
Speaker 3: it's a whole new element.
41:51
Speaker 2: Everyone keeps talking about him. They're going to line him
41:53
Speaker 2: up all over. I think he could be really outstanding.
41:56
Speaker 4: And they were pretty good last year. If they looked
41:58
Speaker 4: at the offense with Bo Nix adding that type of weapon,
42:00
Speaker 4: that underneath weapon, he's not prime Tyree Kelly. He doesn't
42:03
Speaker 4: have that level of explosiveness, but he is a great player.
42:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, I picked the Broncos to win the Super Bowl
42:08
Speaker 3: against the Rams.
42:09
Speaker 4: So would you poo-poo yourself by picking against them tonight,
42:12
Speaker 4: or should we save that?
42:14
Speaker 2: Let's save that.
42:15
Speaker 3: I've got to be honest, I did not know the
42:16
Speaker 3: Ravens were going to look that good, or I might
42:18
Speaker 3: have thought twice about that.
42:19
Speaker 4: It's time for a little constructive criticism off the weekend.
42:21
Speaker 4: Thoughts on what we're wearing, football, food. Whatever you got.
42:25
Speaker 4: First one, Perloff. Let's see what we got. Constructive criticism.
42:29
Speaker 2: Oh, look, it's me. Let me read this one, Paul.
42:32
Speaker 3: Against the grain, at their peaks, Carson Wentz is the
42:35
Speaker 3: most talented player in the Vikings QB room over Kyler
42:38
Speaker 3: Murray and J.J.
42:39
Speaker 2: McCarthy.
42:40
Speaker 3: Don't think it's particularly close. This is from August 12, 2026. Now,
42:44
Speaker 3: maybe I was overstating it, but clearly the Vikings got better, unfortunately,
42:49
Speaker 3: when Kyler Murray got hurt and Carson Wentz came in
42:52
Speaker 3: the game. Now, Wentz was shaky to start with. But
42:54
Speaker 3: then he just started targeting Justin Jefferson. I've thought all
42:57
Speaker 3: along Wentz is probably the best Kevin O'Connell coach quarterback
43:02
Speaker 3: in that Vikings QB room.
43:03
Speaker 2: And it played out great on Sunday.
43:05
Speaker 3: I didn't understand why Wentz didn't even get consideration as
43:08
Speaker 3: a starter.
43:09
Speaker 2: I don't get the Kyler Murray thing.
43:11
Speaker 3: I always thought Kyler Murray was going to have trouble
43:13
Speaker 3: in this offense or trouble staying healthy, and that's what happened.
43:16
Speaker 4: I like this total setup email. This is like a
43:18
Speaker 4: third-person email. tweet to the Not So Fast show. You know,
43:21
Speaker 4: I'm with you. If you don't remember Pete Carson Wentz,
43:24
Speaker 4: he was a fantastic runner and a big, strong passer.
43:28
Speaker 4: No one's going to think of him as the most
43:29
Speaker 4: physically talented guy in the room anymore, but there was
43:31
Speaker 4: a time that he was because Kyler Murray didn't have
43:33
Speaker 4: power as a runner. He had a lot of speed.
43:35
Speaker 3: Is it okay, by the way, that I called out
43:36
Speaker 3: a tweet that it's sort of right compared to one
43:38
Speaker 3: of the many, many bad takes that I have on
43:40
Speaker 3: social media?
43:40
Speaker 4: It is right on brand for you, Pearl. All right,
43:43
Speaker 4: next up, constructive criticism. Let's see what we have coming
43:46
Speaker 4: up next.
43:46
Speaker 2: Here we go.
43:48
Speaker 4: Chip in Florida, are you doing hair treatments? You seem
43:51
Speaker 4: to have more hair than you did a while back.
43:53
Speaker 4: That's to me. Let's check. I thought I was fading fast.
43:58
Speaker 4: I did trim it up a little bit. I think
44:00
Speaker 4: by keeping it tight, I look like I have more.
44:03
Speaker 4: But should I go on record here?
44:05
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you are getting them, you need
44:06
Speaker 2: to pay more.
44:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I got hair treatments, I should ask my
44:10
Speaker 4: money back because they missed. No, it's a slow retreat.
44:14
Speaker 4: It's 20 years in the making, and we're holding on.
44:17
Speaker 4: just by this much, but thank you for that.
44:19
Speaker 2: Would you ever go Jason Statham and just say goodbye?
44:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, or go Brian Urlacher and load it up for
44:26
Speaker 4: the back half of the career.
44:27
Speaker 2: I just compared you to Jason Statham. I would take
44:29
Speaker 2: that if I were you.
44:29
Speaker 4: I would take that in a second. Of course, I'm
44:31
Speaker 4: just like a wimp compared to him. All right, next up,
44:33
Speaker 4: constructive criticism. Let's see what we have here, Pearl. Oh,
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Speaker 4: this is from me. Look at me with the setup.
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Speaker 4: My wife just yelled down, we made a little something.
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Speaker 4: My wife was cooking upstairs with one of my children.
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure which one. I can't keep track of
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Speaker 4: their names during football season. And she brings a big,
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Speaker 4: huge tub of Italian sausage, peppers, and onions, then rolls,
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Speaker 4: and the optional marinara sauce. And I would marry her
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Speaker 4: all over again. What are your thoughts on that dish, Pearl?
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Speaker 2: That looks amazing.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the most self-serving constructive criticism we've
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Speaker 3: ever done. I don't think we should be able to
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Speaker 3: do this anymore. Scott's in my ear, our producer, saying,
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Speaker 3: you know, you guys could get posts from other people
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Speaker 3: as well, but that looks amazing.
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Speaker 4: Well, we're working, and maybe we'll get a picture of
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Speaker 4: Scott's new daughter so he can feel like he's part
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Speaker 4: of the team. But, you know, where does that rank?
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Speaker 4: Sausage and peppers as a game-day treat? Where does that rank?
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Speaker 2: That's incredible. I don't know why.
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Speaker 3: I never think to make that, though, but sausage is
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Speaker 3: a go-to in the Perloff household.
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Speaker 4: We love sausage. You're going to edit that as you will.
45:30
Speaker 4: All right, it's time for the feel-good. If you watched
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Speaker 4: on NBC, Iowa State versus Iowa on Saturday night. Really
45:36
Speaker 4: tight game. Surprisingly hit the under. This is.
45:41
Speaker 4: This is what they do every week at Iowa, the
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Speaker 4: Stead Family Children's Hospital. End of the first quarter, the fans,
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Speaker 4: the players, the coaches, everybody waves up to the kids
45:49
Speaker 4: at the Stead Family Children's Hospital. What a great tradition.
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Speaker 4: My wife and kids were sitting next to me, and
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Speaker 4: they hadn't watched an Iowa home game before. And they're like,
45:57
Speaker 4: this is the coolest thing of all time.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's incredible.
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Speaker 3: I've always found it so interesting the way the hospital
46:02
Speaker 3: is placed next to the stadium.
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Speaker 2: I've seen it many, many times, and it still makes
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Speaker 2: me feel good every time.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really cool. Iowa's been doing this for a
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Speaker 4: long time now. It's on brand, and the other team
46:12
Speaker 4: gets involved as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially, I mean, and also, that's a pretty good rivalry.
46:16
Speaker 3: We have a lot of DP show fans in Iowa,
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Speaker 3: and this has been heated for many, many years.
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Speaker 4: Well, those games are kind of the sure things to
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Speaker 4: me of the college football weekend. When you have, like,
46:23
Speaker 4: the Apple Cup, or if you have the Iron Bowl,
46:25
Speaker 4: or if you have Iowa State, I always lean towards
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Speaker 4: watching them because they're almost always close. I think in
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Speaker 4: the past 10 years, seven of those are three-point games
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Speaker 4: with Iowa State.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: All right, Paul, we mentioned keep it friendly for Chiefs
46:38
Speaker 3: and Broncos.
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Speaker 2: You want to bet this one? You know what?
46:40
Speaker 3: As I mentioned earlier, I'm already out on the survivor
46:42
Speaker 3: pool thanks to the Chargers.
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Speaker 2: So I didn't exactly have the greatest weekend.
46:47
Speaker 3: But I got to be honest, I am leaning Broncos.
46:49
Speaker 3: And even if they try and protect Patrick Mahomes tonight,
46:52
Speaker 3: I feel like the Broncos are going to be a
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Speaker 3: house on fire to get after their rival.
46:55
Speaker 4: How do you look at games like this? When you
46:56
Speaker 4: have a heavyweight battle, Broncos, Chiefs, or Texans versus Bills,
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Speaker 4: do you really care who wins that game or are
47:02
Speaker 4: you looking for the nuance?
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Speaker 3: Oh, for me, Patrick Mahomes' health. Patrick Mahomes, people in
47:09
Speaker 3: KC are saying he looks amazing. Everyone picked their Super
47:11
Speaker 3: Bowl pick and nobody had the Chiefs. If Mahomes looks
47:14
Speaker 3: good tonight, that's going to change.
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Speaker 4: And if you look last week, Mahomes was asked about
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Speaker 4: his knee again. He goes, we're done. We're done with
47:19
Speaker 4: this topic. I like him being angry because he's so
47:21
Speaker 4: far past the knee situation.
47:22
Speaker 3: And what about a Mary Travis Kelsey? He was sort
47:25
Speaker 3: of downgraded last year.
47:26
Speaker 2: They didn't use him a lot.
47:27
Speaker 3: Is he going to be better or worse now that
47:29
Speaker 3: it's official with Taylor?
47:30
Speaker 4: Well, married guys usually put on 15 pounds in the
47:33
Speaker 4: first year of marriage, so look for that when you're
47:34
Speaker 4: watching the game. Do you have a pick?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm going Denver.
47:37
Speaker 3: I'm going Jalen Waddell is going to make a splash,
47:39
Speaker 3: has a long touchdown tonight.
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Speaker 2: Close game, but Bo Nix gets away with a win.
47:44
Speaker 2: Who do you got?
47:45
Speaker 4: I'm going to go Chiefs just to be countered a
47:46
Speaker 4: little bit. I believe in the Broncos as a for
47:48
Speaker 4: the entire season, but tonight on Monday Night Football. How
47:51
Speaker 4: do you feel about week one? How do you feel
47:52
Speaker 4: about your picks, your warm takes? How do you feel
47:54
Speaker 4: about week one?
47:54
Speaker 2: I can't believe all the scoring. It was awesome.
47:58
Speaker 3: Basically, the Chargers are my big disappointment. The Cowboys defense,
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Speaker 3: my second big disappointment. I am really, really curious about
48:05
Speaker 3: how bad the Browns are going to be this year.
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Speaker 4: How do you look at the other side of it,
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Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals? Are you like, nice little story for
48:10
Speaker 4: one week or a nice story for the month?
48:12
Speaker 2: I'm about to buy a Jeremiah Love jersey. Are you
48:15
Speaker 2: kidding me? I'm all in, Paul. You know me.
48:17
Speaker 4: A Tyler Algier jersey?
48:18
Speaker 2: And how do you feel about the Bears?
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Speaker 4: I feel good about the Bears. I hope they keep
48:23
Speaker 4: scoring a lot of points.
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Speaker 2: 59 points a game?
48:26
Speaker 4: And maybe playing a little defense. All right, that's it
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Speaker 4: for us. Tune in tomorrow. We'll have some more on
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Speaker 4: this game, the Monday Night Football wrap-up. Tune in to
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Speaker 4: the Dan Patrick Show tomorrow. DP will be back right
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Speaker 4: here on NBC Sports and NBC Sports Now. But that's
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Speaker 4: all for us. Week one in the books. Tune in
48:39
Speaker 4: to Monday Night Football. Stick around.
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Speaker 2: Take care.