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Are Motley Crue Fans Finally Sick of the Reissues? · Classic Metal Show

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  SPEAKER_02: Hi, this is Mark Storacci, and you're watching CMS-TV.
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  SPEAKER_02: Stay tuned.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's move on from Slayer, shall we?
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  SPEAKER_01: Let us talk.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I don't want to talk a whole lot about this because I want to end with the Van Halen thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: But let's talk briefly about Motley Crue.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm sick to death of this
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  SPEAKER_00: fucking band.
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  SPEAKER_00: They have ruined your
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  SPEAKER_00: enjoyment or your fandom of Motley Crue.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Every time I see anything from them now,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, why are these fucking guys back in my life again?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I loved Motley Crue.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Outside of Metallica,
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  SPEAKER_01: they were probably my number two most played band through my,
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to say my childhood, but my high school years.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I ever told this story or not,
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  SPEAKER_01: but so in the military, I got DWI when I was in Arizona.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they gave me a choice of either getting kicked out of the military or going to rehab.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I went to rehab in El Paso.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was like a lockdown rehab.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we had one day in the rehab where we were taken to a store.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're like trying to teach you how to live life again, live your life.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they took us to a store so that we could buy toothpaste,
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  SPEAKER_01: Soap, shampoo, you know, that kind of shit, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: It was like a toiletry day, but it was like this thing about getting out, okay?
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  SPEAKER_01: So what did I do?
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  SPEAKER_01: I went and I found that they were selling...
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  SPEAKER_01: It was one of those like a drugstore,
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  SPEAKER_01: but remember how sometimes the drugstores had the little rotating cassette things?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like they had all the cassettes on like a rotating wheel and you could just pick one out?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I...
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  SPEAKER_01: Do I waste my time getting toiletries or whatever?
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: The essentials.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I went for the essentials.
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  SPEAKER_01: I went right over to that tape thing and I found Dr. Feelgood and I bought the cassette.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I played it every single day in my headphones.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was my mental stability to get through rehab was at least I had Dr. Feelgood.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I remember when I got caught having it because they were like,
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  SPEAKER_01: you weren't supposed to buy that or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was like, but these guys got sober.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why I'm listening to them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because remember, they had gotten sober for that record.
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  SPEAKER_00: 1989, Bob Rock.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, well, these guys got sober, so I should be okay to listen to this.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they let me keep the tape.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which was allegedly the impetus behind Metallica's Black Album.
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  SPEAKER_00: Motley getting sober or the sound?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, the sound of Dr. Feelgood.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because Metallica heard Dr. Feelgood and they were just like, well, we want that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe that.
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  SPEAKER_00: We want that dynamic.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is the one truly great sounding Motley record.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't think any of the other records sound nearly as good as that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: This, this was like top notch, polished, you know, best, best production ever.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Metallica said, we want our next album to be this.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it was, it was.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it sold the most.
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  SPEAKER_01: Evan, it sold the most.
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  SPEAKER_01: People bitch about Bob Rock all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's another, he's one of those guys like Mutt Lang.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'd have him do, if I was in a band, I'd want that guy.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would want that guy to do anything with me.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you want to sell, you know, multi-millions of records, you want that ear candy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or just want to have a good, like Def Leppard now with that Rejoice song.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're not going to sell any of it, but who cares?
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  SPEAKER_01: It sounds like classic Def Leppard because that guy, Mutt Lang, got back involved.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Bob Rock is the same way.
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  SPEAKER_01: They brought him over to the Metallica camp and he improved their sound.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just the sound.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying the album is better than even Justice or Master or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: But just from a sonic quality, that's the best Metallica record, hands down.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hands down, it's the best one.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Winter, Lord knows I'm not saying that the 94 album isn't great.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's my favorite of all the Motley records,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it's not as sonically good as Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Feelgood, not even in the same ballpark sonically.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a little too knob twisty for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know,
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  SPEAKER_01: there's some songs on there that just has a little too much,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know, you know, it was that Love Shine song at the beginning of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like all kinds of weird.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bullshit in there.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like, eh, not quite as good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then they went off the deep end with Generation Shit.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, oof, terrible.
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  SPEAKER_01: Terrible, terrible, terrible.
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  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, back to Motley Crue.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Motley Crue have announced, you're never going to believe this, Neely, another reissue.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: These fucking guys are the kings of reissue.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, here's the thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is this the band doing this or is this a production deal?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_01: It probably is a production deal, but they're signing off on it.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's no doubt.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, of course, because they're going to make a paycheck.
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  SPEAKER_01: But they're proving once again that their integrity level is zero.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's all about the cash.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Again, going back to my ATM statement from before,
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  SPEAKER_01: they really look at their fans as an ATM machine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well,
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  SPEAKER_00: they've made their entire 40-plus year career out of the fans buying their stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's why each and every one of them are multi-millionaires.
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  SPEAKER_01: They just keep throwing it out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Keep reissuing it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Keep reissuing it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, now BMG is going to reissue this one.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this one comes with,
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  SPEAKER_01: what, the original No Life Till Leather version of the album or something?
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that's the big get on this one,
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  SPEAKER_01: is that this one comes with the Leather Records version instead of
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  SPEAKER_01: the Elektra version that was cleaned up a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_01: But call me crazy, I don't think either one of those is that good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that, I mean, I'm sure you know the Electra version, backwards and forwards.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's decent, but I wouldn't call it great, would you?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, but that's what launched them into the attention of the public.
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, they didn't get into the public until Shout at the Devil.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, but my point is, is they made their first foray into the public.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they
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  SPEAKER_00: were heard.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying that this put them over the top.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying that this is where people who were paying attention to this kind of
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  SPEAKER_00: a thing may have heard of Motley Crue.
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  SPEAKER_01: I remember when I first bought it or stole it because I bought it from Camelot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Was it Camelot?
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  SPEAKER_01: Not Camelot.
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  SPEAKER_01: What was that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Columbia House.
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  SPEAKER_01: One where they sent you the albums and then you never paid for them.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I totally ripped them off for this record.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I got it after I had Shout at the Devil.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I remember being completely disappointed with this thing because it just sounds so shitty.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, when you listen to, like, what's the song?
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  SPEAKER_01: Starry Eyes?
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  SPEAKER_01: When you listen to Starry Eyes,
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  SPEAKER_01: it has that beginning part that just sounds like they're just kind of grinding
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  SPEAKER_01: the guitar in the studio and just started playing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like, what is this garage band bullshit that I'm listening to?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just, I always thought this was kind of, and it has good songs on it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think Take Me to the Top's a pretty good song.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like On With the Show like everybody else.
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  SPEAKER_01: Piece of Your Action's pretty cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: Live Wire's obviously a big one for them.
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  SPEAKER_01: But all the rest of it, like, come on and dance.
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  SPEAKER_01: Come on and dance.
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  SPEAKER_01: Junk.
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  SPEAKER_01: How about No?
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  SPEAKER_01: Same with Public Enemy No.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you like that song?
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  SPEAKER_01: Public Enemy No.
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  SPEAKER_01: 1.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think overall it's a Like a middle-of-the-road record for them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't you think?
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  SPEAKER_01: Or do you like it more?
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that it's similar.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to throw Dokken in here.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's similar to Breaking the Chains.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's their first foray into getting public attention.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it great?
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you remember a few of the songs.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then they came out, as you said, Shout at the Devil, which is what kind of blew them up.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm looking to see if they get the price tag on this fucking thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can't imagine what this thing costs.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's not even a pre-order link anywhere here.
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  SPEAKER_01: The Ultra Unlimited version with additional elements in a hand-numbered run
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  SPEAKER_01: of 250 copies is available at the Cruzeum.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's look up the Cruzeum.
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  SPEAKER_01: C-R-U-E-S-E-U-M, Cruzeum, Motley Crew Cruzeum.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they've sold it out.
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  SPEAKER_01: How much was it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Still seems a bit pricey to me, but $2.50?
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  SPEAKER_01: Did you pay $2.50 for that?
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: But again, I'm not a hardcore.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our good friend Tim James would buy that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, he probably did buy that.
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  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean would?
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  SPEAKER_00: He got the last copy available.
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  SPEAKER_01: Look at some of this bullshit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Look at the ripoffs these guys do.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hand-signed Theater of Pain 12-inch vinyl album, $950.
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  SPEAKER_01: So this is signed by who?
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  SPEAKER_01: Probably all four of them, I'd imagine.
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  SPEAKER_00: You think McMars participated?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's find out.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nope.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hand signed by Nicky, Tommy, and Vince.
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  SPEAKER_00: See?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's my point.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, why would you need McMars?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's only $950, dude.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a bargain.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if it was McMars, it would be $1,200.
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  SPEAKER_01: It would be $2,000.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, here's another one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Signed, 12-inch acrylic encased, grade vinyl, $1,500.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you fucking kidding me with this?
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  SPEAKER_01: And again, no Mick Mars.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: $1,500?
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  SPEAKER_00: So you're missing a key member on this album.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: For $1,500.
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  SPEAKER_01: $1,500.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who are the dumbbells that bought this?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, seriously.
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  SPEAKER_01: Seriously.
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  SPEAKER_01: You gotta be a real... That's a fan to the level of insanity.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's not a fan.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's somebody that will stalk these fucking guys.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't you think?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's somebody that probably lurks in fucking Wyoming looking for Nicky's new house.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, $1,500.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's fucking ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, my point is that there is no need for this, again.
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  SPEAKER_01: These guys have reissued all their bullshit so many times.
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  SPEAKER_01: Only one I can think of that's reissued as many or more might be Iron Maiden.
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  SPEAKER_01: Iron Maiden's reissued their shit a bunch of times.
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  SPEAKER_01: But Motley Crue just does it every five years.
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  SPEAKER_01: They recycle it and come back out with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, they license it to somebody to reissue it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But they do it every,
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  SPEAKER_01: there's 20th anniversary, 25th anniversary, 30th anniversary, now 45th anniversary.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I guarantee you,
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  SPEAKER_01: you'll get this with another fucking demo or some bullshit for the 50th anniversary.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't you think?
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  SPEAKER_01: Of course.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, again.
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  SPEAKER_00: This goes back to the whole ticket thing we were talking about earlier in the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: There would not be a demand for this if people would not pay for it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Tim, so knock it off.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that's the whole thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is a testament to the economy that people have that kind of expendable cash
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  SPEAKER_00: who is willing to put out that kind of money.
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  SPEAKER_00: For this kind of stuff,
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  SPEAKER_00: regardless if it's a ticket to a show for hundreds of dollars or
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  SPEAKER_00: whether it's hundreds of dollars for a signed Motley Crue album or whatever
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  SPEAKER_00: the hell it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just like, you guys must be doing well if you got that kind of cash.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope you're not putting it on a credit card that has a 25% interest rate.
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  SPEAKER_01: But you know some are.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just, I don't know, the whole thing's infuriating to me.
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