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Manchester United beat Liverpool & return to Champions League | LKIO - Ep 65 · Let's Kick It Off!

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Let's kick it off. I'm your host Steve and I'm
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joined by Ash and us and it's been a good few weeks since us
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three caught up and what better way to catch up After beating
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Liverpool 32 on the weekend, Kobe maneu the winner to seal
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the double against Liverpool. I think the first time since the
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Louis Van Hall season. I think it is 20/15/16 I think.
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Was you there, Steve? No, I was that one field, but I
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I think I heard this season we'd done the double S when Wasa
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scored. I think it was one nil like half
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folly smashed it in the like in the top top of the net.
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But yeah, first time in 10 years we've done the double over
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Liverpool obviously secured Champions League football.
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So yeah, what a weekend to catch up.
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So us come to you enjoy that win against Liverpool.
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I. Only have one thing to say.
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Brilliant. Where's the final?
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Let's book it. Oh God, it's going to be nice.
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I mean, it's going to be nice. Let's be honest, at the start of
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the season we all said right, we've, we had a terrible season
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last season, but this team's better than that.
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Let's get back into Europe. That's what we want, right?
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That's what United's all about, minimum expectations to be back
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in the Champions League. It's just, it's just amazing.
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It's so good. Fully deserved as well.
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I think. I don't know what you guys
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think. I think we're the third best
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team in the league, don't you? I thought, I thought we did.
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You feel comfortable, guy? I felt fairly comfortable going
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into that game. I felt confident.
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I thought we could win the game. We started well.
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I think we got a bit complacent. It was almost too easy,
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definitely. So, yeah, really happy.
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I think the teams where it deserves to be, clubs where it
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deserves to be. And you know, maybe you have one
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or two good things to say about Ineos and the transfer business
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done in the summer because it's, you know, CUNY and Bumo.
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I know Laman's made a mistake, but he's he's been really good.
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Cesco, another goal I know you were all about on the Dockers
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train, but I think you know another one for Cesco is doing
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well. So really happy, great result
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and perfect team to, you know, put it to right to to finish it
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off. Just checked where the Champions
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League final is boys. Next year it's in Madrid.
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Really. Wow.
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Which Bernabeu or is that? Is that their first one or?
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I think so yeah. Champions League final.
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Yeah. OK, so yeah, interesting.
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I was like on, you know, we're clearly third in the league.
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So, you know, that would suggest we are the third best team in
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the league. I know you don't tend to watch
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much of the Sky Sports reaction these days, but I think Carriger
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and Neville were going at it on this point so obviously.
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Really. What were they saying?
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Oh, shock. So obviously Neville, Neville's
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saying so. You know what happened?
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The Miami Grand Prix got brought forward because of the weather.
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So I immediately was like, what's going on?
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I started. I've seen none of the coverage
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tell me what happened. OK, OK, so yeah, essentially,
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you know, Neville's obviously given it to Carriger.
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You know, Carriger's easy to wind up, especially after
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Liverpool lose. But basically Neville said, you
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know, we've done the double overview, we've finished third.
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So you know, United are the third best team.
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Carriger's brought up the point about we've had no Europe and
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we've got knocked out the Cup Cup competitions early.
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So obviously that's the rebuttal against it.
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Ash like do you buy that or? Do you not?
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Really. Because the league is the
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league, right? We know it's not the greatest
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league in the world, so Carrick and the players, to their credit
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are just doing everything they can.
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Like I think we're maximising almost everything we've got.
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Like we'll probably go into a bit more about, you know, the
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manager and, you know, where can the team go.
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But I think we talked about this like 12 months ago, maybe 18
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months ago, that if you just got any manager and he could play 43
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one, it will suit the squad. And Carrick's gone beyond that
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in terms of the the staff he's put together, the way he tries
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to play football. And I think that goes back to
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one of as his points, like with Ruben, that quality of players,
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you can only do so much. So hopefully now with a good
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transfer window, good couple of central midfielders, we can go
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beyond. So the people who are worried
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and the fans who are worried about Carrick next season,
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whether it's on squad rotation or the way we play, there should
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be, you know, an improvement. But yeah, going going back to it
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is like you can only deal with the circumstances that you've
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been given, right? Like if Carrick had 50 games to
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play then we'd see more, right? He's done everything he can,
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like he has done an absolutely magnificent job, yeah.
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Yeah, so like before we've talked Carrot then just sticking
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to the games. Obviously 2 pretty early goals
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from us, first one from Kunya, pretty nice finish, you know,
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kicked into the ground but still good finish and then the same.
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Just before the goals, and this is what we always talk about
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with United, the atmosphere, it was phenomenal.
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Like before the game, like the fans were singing the happy.
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We're not playing like, you know, Ferguson 2008 or like 1994
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football, but we're we're playing good football, football
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that is relatable to United fans front foot giving it a go and
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the players are working hard. So the atmosphere was absolutely
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incredible. And it wasn't even the cleanest
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strike. Steve and the roof lifted off.
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Yeah, early goal in these types of fixtures always help.
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Shout out to coach Raj in Stratford End leading, leading
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the charge. But Ash, we were actually at Old
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Trafford a week ago today. We were at the Brentford game,
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weren't we? And really that was a massive
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result leading up to the Liverpool game, right?
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Because I think we only needed two points to secure CL
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following that Brentford win. So, you know, that possibly took
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the pressure off a little bit heading into that Liverpool
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game. And then to get the early start,
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the second goal, what was that like?
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Was it 1520? Yeah.
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So going 2 nil up as I'm, I'm guessing you're starting to
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dream of like 5 nil 7 nil to get the revenge on Liverpool over
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the last few years. No, I never.
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Oh well, these big games, I've never liked that.
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I'm always nervous so I always. I respect Liverpool.
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They're still a good side and we're still fragile, right?
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We're not, we're not perfect. We've got a lot of results, but
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you know, you can still see there's frailties in the team.
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But what make the difference, in my opinion, is the firepower
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that we signed in the summer. We talked about that we'd lacked
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goals. We need goals.
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And you know, all this, the signings have have, you know,
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done really well. And my man Bruno Fernandez, who
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everyone doubted so many, so many times, he's just brilliant.
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When are people going to accept that Bruno Fernandez is one of
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the best players in the league if not this?
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Season does help when he plays his best position, but yeah.
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Yeah, but that's what I mean is he is class, right?
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He is class. And you know, I think him
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playing in central midfield has actually improved him.
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I think he's he's got even better.
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He's even calmer in possession. So I think, you know that, yeah,
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it's not ideal to have him so deep.
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It was sort of somewhat necessary just because of the
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makeup of the team. But Casimiro stepped up.
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Bruno's now got what I would consider the best position for
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him for sure. And yeah, the ball for Cesco,
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Lovely, lovely. He's just so good.
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Jenna scored. It's just so good.
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I mean, I don't know. I don't follow the sort of
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general fan base anymore. They're just, you know, I
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haven't got time for it. But what's the sentiment around
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them? Is the appreciation finally
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there that this is not just a hero bull merchant who just
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throws his arms up Or, you know, we need Scott back on.
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He's the the barometer, right, For Bruno.
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But what is the sentiment? Yeah, it's strong as in
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especially this season. Obviously he's on for the the
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assist record, right? Is he one off now?
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I think on equal in it. Do you know it's something
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really weird, right? When I checked fantasy league,
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which is obviously the official stats, it said 21 assists.
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Let me check if it's still the case.
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You guys carry on the thing with fantasy and 21.
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So I don't, I don't, I haven't been playing it properly this
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year, but I remember at the beginning of the year they they
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sort of simplified the assist rule.
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There was like, oh, if, if any kind of just to kind of get away
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from this controversy. And I think it's stricter.
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True assists are stricter than the fantasy assist probably.
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Because yesterday's one was obviously not an assist, but
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Fantasy League gave it yeah as an assert.
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Yeah, surely the fantasy league is run by the Premier League, so
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surely. That's the only reason I was
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like, hang on a second, because everyone keeps saying 19, so
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he's not even equalled it yet. And then I looked and it was
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like 21. I'm like, what?
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It's broken. It's like something's obviously
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and. Because I think in fantasy,
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because he was the last attacking player to touch the
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ball, yeah, it doesn't matter. The goalkeeper flapped at it.
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Still his assist. Yeah, but it's it's Premier
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League, like Premier League, fantasy league.
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Yeah, but they, they, you know what, There was a lot of
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complaints in FPL about what's in the system.
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What? No, seriously, it was a really
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no debate about what's in the system, what's not an assist.
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One thing I would say is like, you know, assists are a bit of a
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fuzzy number as well because you could just pass the ball to
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someone and he he dribbles past 10 players and you go, oh, yeah,
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of course. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah. Or someone smashes it in from 30
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yards. But I think Bruno Fernandez Gen
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genuinely is playing beautiful creative.
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Football. Yeah, just.
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Quickly on that because I I saw it like flash up the other day.
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Who assisted Cristiano Ronaldo's 40 yard screamer against Porto
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in 2009? Carrick Anderson Place.
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Yeah. So it was Anderson.
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I can't even remember how I saw it.
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Oh, do you know what it it was like Rio's interview with
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Anderson. And I think I saw something, you
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know, like a. Oh, and Anderson brought up that
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assist. No, no, no.
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It was like a short related to the YouTube video, whatever.
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And Anderson actually plays like a inside forward pass, like with
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the instep of his foot. And it's just as this point,
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it's like, oh, well. So Anderson is, you know,
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credited with his his for that goal.
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Yeah, but I think in answer to as his question, like the fam
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United fan base, to be fair, even going back like last
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season, there was always an element and you know, that
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Bruno's temperament, you know, can be questioned at certain
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times. This season it's been pretty
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good apart from that head loss. Was it the Fulham away when he
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went mental in the record? He's got mental in this game.
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I saw him. Do you remember?
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There was that he was going. I thought he was going to get
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sent off at one point. I was he was going.
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Crazy at the referee. You know what?
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There's one point. Where I think the referee got in
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his way and he was going ballistic and he'd just been
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booked like through my calm down wait.
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I think I've seen a few games actually where he's still losing
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it with the players. But as I've always said, with
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these types of things, you're winning so no one picks up on
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it. So instead of being a moaning
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Wynjum twat, he's like a high standards, you know, the modern
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Portuguese, whatever. That's my issue is that a lot of
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the sentiment around players has always been if we're doing well,
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are we like these guys and if we're doing badly we don't.
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And I'm like, no, you've got to isolate the individual.
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Well, even when we're doing badly, Bruno was still
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performing. There's other players that were
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letting him down and his levels gone up, but him having good
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players around him has also helped.
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There's clubs. Finally, we supported him with
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proper. I also, I also think you know
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your point about like fan sentiment, I think it's based on
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like age. So if you're a kid or a
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teenager, I don't think that sentiment as that you you think
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of United fans with Bruno exists.
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They all love him because, one, he's a baller, two, he's the
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best player on the pitch and like, especially this season,
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you know he's producing, right? So I think it's the older crowd
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who've got a problem with him. Where is Scott?
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He's getting back on. He's he's busy campaigning for
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Ireola instead of Carrick. Oh.
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Is he? Interesting.
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Yeah, we'll come on to, we'll come on to that later.
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But just on the Bruno point again, we had Ian Irving on a
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few weeks ago and Ian is big on Bruno getting the player of the
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season this year, so. Instead of him because I can't
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think of a name. Well, that's the thing, Tell.
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Me a name. I cannot think of a name.
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Rice. OK, can rice Gabriel would be
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like, you know, based on continuation as Bruno.
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Yeah, especially last few months.
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I agree both. Been really good.
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They both deserve to be mentioned in the conversation,
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but they haven't been as good as Bruno.
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Yeah. You know, another thing with the
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player of the year, I mean, I don't really take notice of it,
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but like, especially remembering like I know late 90s or like
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naughties, it's like the player who's in the best form around
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like March, April, they normally actually get it because that's
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the business end of the season. Like, you can say what you want.
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Like, you know, a goal in August and a goal in April is the same
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thing. But it's sentiment.
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It's the storylines. And, you know, I'd love to see
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the breakdown, for example, of like, Bruno's assist record
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since Reuben left because, you know, it must have gone through
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the roof. Well, I think, I think the
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chance creation has gone through the roof since Carrot came in
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because obviously Bruno started playing #10 So yeah, that's
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that's clear. But yeah, with the with the
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player of the season, like, yeah, he's got to be in for a
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shout. But you know, I think again, Ian
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mentioned that he he did some analysis on whether the player
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of the season has been for the title winners over the last like
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1010 to 20 years. I think he looked back and only
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like half of the time I think it was where it was a player from
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the title winning team. So it's not like it has to be,
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you know, from the Champions where you have the player of the
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season. As remember the 90s like United
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would win the league every year. Barely any of those players.
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You know United players won it right?
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It would be like Shearer, Ferdinand, Fowler, whoever,
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right? Like yeah, I can understand.
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You get a bit of a split vote I think.
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David General is the famous. One sometimes us, the club might
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not be the most popular as well, so you don't want to, but I just
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think I really do think of all the of all the players in the
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league. I, I I'm also biassed towards
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attacking players. I think attacking is a harder
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facet of the game than defending and yeah, it's brilliant.
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It's wonderful to watch. I'm really happy that, you know,
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we have him at the club and he'll probably stay a few more
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years now and. Yeah, he has a buyout, though.
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Yeah, new friend of the pod, Daniel Khan from Sky Sports told
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us that he has AI. Think it's £60 million.
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I I think there's an expiration date on it.
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If someone should, but someone should.
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If I was, I don't know, just make a name up Bayern Munich or
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whatever who's been linked to them.
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Yeah, I would definitely try and trigger it.
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Yeah, but you'd hope that Bruno is like, no, I've got a I've got
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unfinished business at United. Now that we're in the Champions
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League, he'll give it a go. I.
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Think his contract's up right? Is it next year or is it might
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be 1 + 1? It's probably a + 1.
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Just going back to the game quickly in terms of that
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second-half, like, you know, conceding the goals and being on
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the ropes a bit. Ash, did that concern you?
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Because again, at the Brentford game we were at kind of similar
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thing happened where, you know, we were pretty good to begin
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with and then, you know, we we were on the back foot.
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So is that concerning? It's concerning, but all I would
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say is if you think about like the neatness of this squad, like
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the defenders, Casimiro, even Bruno, I'm not blaming Bruno,
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but like that Nicholas of team, we've been doing it even in the
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Eric 10 hard days. So this is kind of like a
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pattern of of this, you know, team just generally.
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So yeah, it's a concern. Luckily, there's only three
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games to go, so hopefully there's not too much to worry
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about. So yeah, look, I I you could
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pick holes, particularly with the SEC.
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Sorry, the first goal, like I mean, slob aside just runs for
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like 50 yards without no one even coming close to a tackle.
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You know, McGuire and Dallow just seem to back off good for
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and it's the thing like even the good Dallow, right?
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I have to give it to Dallow. He's been really good or really
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improved anyway, right? And I give a lot of credit to
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the to Carrick and the coaching * but this is it, right?
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It's like if you want to think about that next level and
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whether it's in two years time, you still need a, you still need
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a better right back. You're still going to need a
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better sensor back. So, you know, it's like step by
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step, isn't it? But yeah, it was concerning.
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And what about the? Silly second goal.
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Yeah, as you mentioned it, right, Lamont's mistake for
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Liverpool's second goal, like, yeah, he's been, he's had a
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very, very good season, so difficult to criticise him too
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much. But yeah, that was a big moment
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in a big game. Obviously we got the win, but
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poor, poor mistake really right? It was, but it happened.
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A lot of the best goalkeepers have done it.
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Who are the two best in the league?
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Probably Raya and Donna Rumour and they've done similar things
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at various points rates so he he could argue that he's one of the
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top three goalkeepers in the league since he's come in and
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this is a kid he's been really good.
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I want to say you know like all play.
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Ahmad gave the ball away for the first goal right as well.
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The midfield was just like walked through and then yeah,
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lemons gives the ball away. 2 poor goals to be honest.
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But yeah, we won the game. So yeah, exactly you.
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Kind of get you can get over it. I'm I, I think he made sees he's
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made some greats. You were the Brentford game.
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You were saying he made some top saves in that game.
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Yeah, yeah. 3-4 saves gave me kind of sort of early Dehaya
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sort of vibes. Some one of those ones where he
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clawed one out. Yeah.
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It was like, that is going in and he's just somehow clawed it
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out the net and put it around the post.
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Yeah. So I was.
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I was like, yeah, top, top kid. I'm sure you would have missed
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it, but actually I in the Let's kick it off United community, I
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did actually message I think a few days ago and said the one
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thing I'll give idiots credit for is Lamans.
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You're not giving them credit for Dorgu, for Aiden Heaven.
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We'll. See, we'll see early days.
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He's been, I think heaven's one of the signings.
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He's been good, he's been good. Chelsea away.
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Chelsea away. He's really good.
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That kid is good. He's really good on the ball,
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he's calm, he's composed. I think the, you know, Embumo,
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Cunias, Cesco have done what we hoped they would do, score
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about. It's about 30 goals between
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them, something like that. They haven't played every minute
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as well. But I think they were more
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obvious signings, the Lomond's one no one knew about and the
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way he's come in one of the biggest clubs in the world that
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that you have to give credit for whoever.
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Really, he was supposed to be a number 2.
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That's been, you know, said by everyone now.
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So like all the journos, they all say clearly he came in as a
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#2. So picked a good one, right?
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Like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's a good.
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I mean, he's really good. He he's Ron was the first one to
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call it like the closest thing to Edwin Bandasar and I, I
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definitely see I. Think Edwin his sort of role
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model or his one of his favourite.
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Yeah, I think so something like that, the whole Belgium Dutch
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connection. But he's just so calm.
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And I I I think I mentioned that to someone recently in that, you
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know, it's complete, you know, zero to 100 in terms of banana
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complete mayhem and that doesn't help the defence.
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And you got like Mr Cool Lamont's, you know, he settled
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the defence down so. So it's hard to have a go at him
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too much, right for I know it was a big moment and you know,
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we conceded the goal, but he's been, he's had a really good
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season. But United fans cursed it as
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well, right? Because I think there was a
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start. He made no errors in the Premier
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League this season, so obviously that was the first.
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One, but also you've got to bear in mind, it's not like we've
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been excessively playing out from the back.
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So it's it's it's it's not one. He's he's semi new to it, but
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also just the team as well. So you can make mistakes, you
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know, you know when you know when Arteta first came in as an
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example or Guardiola first came in, they struggled in their
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build up because it takes time to implement the new patterns,
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right. So we've got a new manager who's
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asking, you know, to do certain slightly different things.
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You will see these errors and hopefully they iron out over
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time. I don't think he is the best in
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the world with the ball at his feet, no.
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But he's he's kid. He's hopefully he can improve on
22:36
that side of his game. You know, if we're talking
22:39
Belgium, right, he he, he to me, he's probably closer to a
22:42
Courtois right then he is a ball playing goalkeeper.
22:45
He he catches the ball, makes saves that you expect.
22:50
And we've seen kind of recently, and Steve, you mentioned it, the
22:53
Brentford game, he did make a couple of kind of like Dehaya
22:57
Res saves where he's clawing it out from the corner.
22:59
But the seven out of 10 saves that you expect, he, he, he
23:04
saves those. And you know what, we're all
23:06
cricket fans. It's so good that he catches it.
23:09
He barely punches. He he claims the ball, which is
23:12
great. Yeah, no, definitely.
23:14
And then obviously 22, right. And you think we've thrown away
23:17
the lead and Mr New Contract steps up with the winner.
23:21
And I actually want to just quickly roll it back from the
23:25
podcast this season and just play a little clip to you guys.
23:28
It's not a disgrace, it's a show of the strength of the squad
23:31
that he isn't. The best, yeah.
23:33
He's not the squad that finished 15th.
23:35
He's not as good as seven. He's not.
23:37
He's not as good as He's not as good as Cuna or Ember Embermo in
23:40
the number 10 and he's not as good as a brainer this.
23:43
Is this is the disgrace on us? He's not as good.
23:45
We can't get on the team. Because they're better players
23:48
than him. They're not.
23:48
He's the best player in that squad.
23:51
Instead Steve, he's better. He's.
23:54
It's the manager's choice, right?
23:55
In terms of the system, what? Is this based on?
23:57
What is this based? On the guy's class, have you
23:59
never watched him play football? Have you not played football
24:01
yourself? If you play football and you
24:03
watch Kobe Mainu, you know he's a top player.
24:06
I rest my case I. Don't.
24:10
Haven't changed my mind on that as well.
24:12
Keir Starmer. No, no, I haven't.
24:14
You can't. You can't.
24:15
Like Keir Starmer doesn't have an opinion.
24:18
Keir Starmer is an idiot. No, no, I'm serious.
24:20
I haven't changed my mind on that.
24:21
I still love Kobe menu. I still think he's a brilliant
24:24
footballer. Right.
24:26
I do think that Cunia and Burmo and Bruno are better than him
24:31
ahead of him. So you know what's interesting,
24:34
right? So everyone obviously says in
24:36
Reuben's team copy didn't fit in, but in Reuben's team you had
24:41
A2 in front of a back three and then two number 10.
24:44
So, so, so he could have played. So you got 2IN midfield in
24:48
Carrick system, right? And two in midfield in brewing
24:51
system. That's what I'm saying, yeah.
24:53
So yeah, it's there's no difference there.
24:56
The difference is you have to drop someone.
25:00
Yeah, that's it. There was a difference.
25:02
No, you have to. Carrick, yeah, Carrick played
25:05
Bruno in his best position, which is further, and Reuben
25:09
decided to play Bruno deeper. Yeah, that's it.
25:13
So you'd have to you put Bru. But it's a poor, it's a poor
25:16
choice from the manager. No, it could have been Reuben.
25:20
Yeah, that's the thing. I'm, I'm not.
25:21
I'm not so fixated on that. I thought if you put Bruno
25:25
forward, you have to drop one of them.
25:26
Boom, Mokuna Cesco. That's all.
25:28
That's all it is. Like you.
25:30
Know. But do you know why I was so big
25:32
on it? Because we've all played
25:33
football, right? And we know the hardest thing to
25:36
do on the football pitch is to play sentiment field and pass
25:39
the ball through the lines. That's why I love Carrick so
25:42
much, right? But I think Bruno's better at
25:43
him than that. That's my point.
25:45
I still. Think take the ball on the half
25:47
turn. I think and beat and beat
25:49
players. Kobe Matineau is the best player
25:52
we have and one of the best in the league under pressure on the
25:55
dribble. Yeah, he's so good.
25:57
Like he's got a unique talent that should be harnessed because
26:03
it's quite a rare talent. But Bruno Fernandez is a better
26:08
footballer, even in central midfield.
26:11
And yeah, but. That's that's not the point,
26:13
right, Because we're not comparing the two.
26:15
We are because we're saying that in that system you're going to
26:18
play the front 3 and so you now have two in midfield.
26:21
Now you have to choose to put. I'll tell you what then I'll
26:24
I'll make it simple and and you know, I said it on that clip,
26:28
it's the managers fault. It's the managers ice Reuben.
26:32
Reuben messed that up. Carrick's got it right.
26:35
The results are there. The performance is there.
26:40
And also Bruno's stepped up to a new level since moving into #10
26:44
and not. Up to a new level, but I would
26:46
say the system as it is is less good for Ahmad, for Embumo and
26:53
for Kunia. So this is the thing you you
26:56
have trade-offs to trade-offs. Chose 1 trade off which is
27:00
actually I'd prefer three at the back which solidifies the
27:04
defence a bit so that the two in front have a bit more protection
27:07
and I have two number 10s who are closer to the striker which
27:12
suits Cunia and suits in boomo. They're better than playing out
27:15
too too wide, right? Yeah, but that logic didn't
27:18
work. That's the point, right?
27:20
But we didn't see the no. I would say that if we're going
27:24
back to Reuben here, I don't think for me, I think I'd be
27:27
happy, happy with Carrick playing 343.
27:29
I think he moved to 343 in the Brentford game.
27:31
I have no issue with the system. My issue with Reuben was he was
27:34
just too crazy. He lost himself mentally.
27:37
We needed calm. I think what Carrick's bought is
27:39
not a 4231 for me. He's bought calm to the club.
27:43
He he's a presence on the. I totally disagree because the
27:48
Carrick is always calm right? Like even when he's angry, you
27:51
can't tell because. Yeah, but my point is, I don't
27:54
think he's Mr Chill. I I don't think that the the
27:59
whole thing is just the system. I think it's Carrick himself.
28:04
You know, obviously personality matters, instructions matter,
28:07
but like. And I think Carrick went to it.
28:09
I think Carrick played the same system as Reuben.
28:13
I think we'd have the same result.
28:15
That's what I I I don't think it's a system thing.
28:18
I think so, you think if Carrick had Casimiro and Bruno in the
28:24
two played a back three Bruno and sorry Kunya and and Bumo in
28:30
the 10s you think we'd be furred with the amount the same amount
28:34
of points? Yeah, I think it's Carrick.
28:36
That's the point though, isn't it?
28:37
It's personnel that Carrick's decided to bring Koby back into
28:41
the team. Yeah, Koby's.
28:42
Koby's done really well. I think he did he get man of the
28:44
match. I'm assuming so, but I thought
28:50
you saw all the flaws in his game in this game like we were
28:52
getting that our midfield was getting run through and.
28:55
Yeah, it's not perfect. I want to talk about this, so
28:57
I'll let you make your point. So our midfield is getting run
29:00
through because it's just the nature of the players, right?
29:03
Casimiro and Kobe are just not fast.
29:05
And then behind them you've got a Harry Maguire.
29:07
So like it makes somewhat make sense to play a back three.
29:11
I think Dog, who's a better wing back than a full back?
29:13
I don't think he's a wing, but a full back really.
29:16
I think he's a wingback. I think Ahmad's better as a wing
29:19
back than a winger or he's not a fullback.
29:21
No, he's a winger, he's a winger.
29:23
Yeah, but he is a winger. But I think the wingback role
29:26
suited him. Playing with him.
29:27
Boomer, I think they paired well together.
29:29
And then Bumo and Cunha, I think they get a bit isolated when
29:33
they have to play too wide. They're not.
29:35
They're better when they get the chance to come in.
29:39
So when it works and then when the full backs overlap together
29:42
like I what I liked about this game is the finest on Luke.
29:44
Sure. I felt getting forward more,
29:47
we've been lacking that width, right.
29:49
So I think if we could, yeah, I for me, it's not a system.
29:55
You know, me, I'm quite flexible on systems.
29:57
I think Ollie himself, who Carrick was coach underplayed
30:01
multiple systems and it I think we need, we needed better
30:04
players. We've got better players,
30:05
they've settled in more, they've delivered the goods.
30:08
Bruno stepped up to a new level. I love Kobe Mainu and he has
30:12
been really good and he's developing his game and we and
30:15
really happy he signed a contract.
30:17
He he didn't play enough under Ruben.
30:18
I think Ruben neglected him and was just a bit too stubborn
30:21
about it. But I don't think it's suddenly
30:24
like, oh, you know why we're third?
30:26
It's because he's playing Kobe Maney.
30:27
I think it's massive. Saturation.
30:29
Not that. So there's, there's loads of
30:31
parts, but I, I do want to pick up on this Kobe Maney
30:35
improvement thing, right? Like for months whilst he's been
30:39
playing and getting better. Let's put some perspective on
30:42
it. The kid just turned 21, I think
30:45
yesterday, OK, the best midfielders that me and us have
30:50
seen you, Steve as well over the last 20 years.
30:53
So what? We're talking Steven Gerrard,
30:56
Roy Keane, Patrick Vieira, Javi from Barcelona, Iniesta, right?
31:03
I'm just giving. I can't believe you're.
31:04
Right. Did you not say Paul Skulls?
31:07
Paul skulls, right? What did you say?
31:10
Steven Gerrard and not Paul Skulls.
31:13
No, no. What?
31:15
What were they all doing at 20 years old?
31:19
Right. I can give you a little list.
31:20
Paul Skulls was playing up front.
31:23
Gerard was like a crazy midfielder doing everything.
31:26
Right back when he playing. Patrick Vieira was like AC Milan
31:29
doing nothing but before Wenger picking him up and the two that
31:33
I want to pick out because I've watched their whole careers.
31:36
I don't know if as remembers it, you know, because I was having a
31:39
bit of an argument with Cabs as well last night and he
31:42
definitely watched these two is Javi and Iniesta.
31:46
Now Iniesta, when he was under Reichard, he would get about
31:51
50-60 minutes and doesn't matter what happens, he was coming off
31:55
the pitch at like 2021 years old.
31:58
Because as a 2021 year old in midfield, there's there's only
32:02
so much like stamina you've got, there's only so much control you
32:06
can have because you get fatigued.
32:08
And then was Xavi. It was exactly the same.
32:10
Javi didn't come the midfielder that we all know until about
32:14
2425. And that was kind of like a
32:17
crossover between Reichard and Pet.
32:19
So Modric. Is, well, maybe.
32:21
Yeah, Modric is. He's a good example.
32:24
But my point is, it's just like, everyone just calm down.
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32:57
soon. There's only one topic left to
32:59
discuss. The F1.
33:01
I've got the contract. I've got the contract right
33:03
here. Oh, you've.
33:03
Got is that Michael? Any any number on it, you're
33:07
giving Michael Carrick Carrick the contract.
33:10
Unless Lewis Enrique calls me. Yeah, I I think the only two
33:16
people who could make me change my mind is Luis Enrique and
33:22
Carlo Angela. If Thomas Teacle decided to call
33:25
me, I wouldn't answer the phone. Yeah, so given that it's
33:29
unlikely those two are available, Carrick gets the nod.
33:34
Yeah, I think for now, I mean, look, everyone's going to be
33:37
like, oh, what are you going to do?
33:39
Blah, blah, blah. It's like, look, real simple.
33:42
Give him a 2 + 1 or a three-year contract break clauses, right?
33:46
So you're covered on that. Give them a good transfer
33:49
window. If we finish top four and you
33:54
know, like we see improvement, we'll, you know, it's what you
33:57
guys were saying with your master plan with Reuben, right?
34:00
Wait till World Cup 2026 who's available and we'll pick a
34:04
manager. Turns out they've all signed
34:06
extensions, right? So we just have to see almost on
34:10
a yearly basis. So if Louis Enrique is available
34:13
next year and unless Carrick's won the title, I'm probably
34:16
going to get Lewis Enrique for me.
34:22
I'd stick with Carrick. I, I, I, I can say again, it's
34:26
the the team behind the scenes who are going to do the
34:29
transfers. It'll determine most of
34:32
everything. And you've got a guy in the
34:34
building that you know clearly is a good coach.
34:37
Clearly he can handle the media and stay calm.
34:43
I don't see a better option. Lewis, Enrique.
34:49
He's risky 100% I love Lewis. There's a risk.
34:52
But yeah, I I think he's a brilliant, brilliant man, Great
34:57
manager. Has he, is this team a Lewis
35:02
Enrique team? You know, do you know what I
35:04
mean? It's like it.
35:05
Feel like you're you're assuming you're going to get better
35:08
players. And this is what I was trying to
35:11
say earlier. I think Carrick has put a
35:13
framework in for any decent manager where they could evolve
35:18
this team now, right? He's put and This is why I think
35:21
the system is actually important.
35:23
Lewis Enrique, would he's done that start?
35:25
Again and do his own thing he would the thing that Enrique
35:29
Enrique would want to dominate the ball more than Karen no, but
35:32
he would get we we play a lot more yeah, we play a lot of
35:35
still a lot of counter attack right it's it's it's what we're.
35:38
Yeah, but that's because of the team as well.
35:40
Like Andy Mitter made this point a couple of weeks ago.
35:43
You know, he was saying from good sources in the club, like
35:46
Carrick actually wants to play really dominant control in
35:49
football, but he's working with what he's got.
35:52
And to me, that is the sign of an excellent manager who's
35:55
flexible and. Understand and I don't I don't
35:57
know if Enrique is that's my. Point.
35:58
What about Carlo Us? What about Carlo, if Carlo was
36:00
available? I don't see the point.
36:03
No. What about Carlo and then
36:05
Carrick? I was going to say and then.
36:06
It's my, it's my old thing. Can we have Carlo or Southgate
36:09
with Carrick as assistant? But I just is.
36:12
Not with Southgate, with Carlo I would.
36:14
OK. But you know what I mean?
36:15
Like the Statesman with with the coaching staff, I mean.
36:19
Yeah, but that's important because like Carlo is like that
36:22
level above, especially even young players, they know Carlo
36:27
better than they do Gareth Southgate.
36:30
Maybe like, you know, Southgate managed a lot of the England
36:32
boys. Kobe may know as well.
36:33
But irrespective, yeah. You think Carrick's done enough
36:37
to deserve? He's done enough.
36:38
Yeah, of course he's done enough.
36:42
You're not committing to him with a six year contract like
36:45
with David Moyes. You're basically saying right,
36:48
we're in a transition period. The the games that you've had up
36:51
to this point, you've done well enough.
36:54
You deserve to take this team on and the most important thing is
36:57
let's see what happens with recruitment in the summer.
37:01
Yeah, same way you know, Ollie deserved his chance and he did
37:04
well. Right came what was it third and
37:08
then second so. Steve Characters.
37:13
As well. And, and, and I'm sure at the
37:15
end of it people be like, yeah, Carrick, he's a clown, blah,
37:17
blah, blah. And I'll be like, well, no, he
37:19
actually, if he comes third and 2nd, I'll take it.
37:23
I'll play playing the Champions League music on a regular basis.
37:28
Steve, before you give your answer, I just wanted to give
37:30
some other stats right about Carrick because I just saw them
37:34
like flash up earlier today. So since he's taken over, he's
37:39
played fourteen games. He's five points clear of any
37:42
other Premier League team in terms of form Guide like I keep
37:47
hearing about this Newcastle defeat.
37:50
Let's get some perspective. 14 games, 2 defeats, right?
37:55
And where we were praising Reuben through the hell of like,
37:58
oh, we're undefeated in 15, of which probably nine of them were
38:01
draws. Michael Carrick has won ten
38:05
Premier League games, and that list includes Liverpool,
38:10
Arsenal, Manchester City, Chelsea, away, Aston Villa.
38:15
So like please like. What's this about Newcastle?
38:20
Who's saying anything about Newcastle?
38:23
I I hear it continuously, like when anyone tries to think about
38:27
like, oh what are the negatives of Michael Carrick?
38:30
They bang on about the Newcastle performance as if no other team
38:34
has had a bad day at Saint James's.
38:36
Park well, the other thing is they bang on about he's he's not
38:39
had any Europore Cup competitions and he's been lucky
38:41
because of that and he's not been, he's not had to really
38:44
ride out a tough patch yet. But he's been manager of
38:48
Middlesbrough. Daniel Khan again, you know, he
38:50
follows Championship football way better than we can.
38:54
Week out you're playing three games a week.
38:57
He had two years at Middlesbrough fighting for
39:00
playoffs, so he knows what run-of-the-mill looks like.
39:03
Obviously it's another level, but it goes back to the same
39:07
point. It's like, well, what are the
39:08
alternatives? And there's there's no one,
39:11
there's no one that good. He and he's done a magnificent.
39:14
These things have been in his favour, but these are things
39:17
that we predicted at the start of the season would be in the
39:19
favour of us. I said this, yeah, at the
39:21
second-half of the season we are, but.
39:23
Reuben wouldn't have finished third.
39:24
Reuben would have like even got top five.
39:29
Probably correct. I agree again, but I think it's
39:32
the character, right? I don't think he would have.
39:34
I think we could have still qualified for Europe, but
39:37
Carrick. Has no, we would have qualified
39:38
for you. We probably just would have
39:40
qualified for Europe. But we're talking Europa
39:43
Conference, we're not talking 5th.
39:45
I think when Reuben left we were as close to the relegation zone
39:50
as we were looking up. So.
39:52
Yeah, Carrick's. Completely let's let's do the
39:55
the kind of, you know, I'm a bit I'm very biassed to Michael
39:57
Carrick. Let's just put the kind of
39:59
alternative argument hat on and just be like, look.
40:05
We had AFCON at that time and bad injuries.
40:07
It was natural the team was going to get better.
40:10
The fixture list cleared up a bit and then some of the AFCON
40:13
players came back. A lot of the players settled a
40:16
bit more as well. We always, always said to you
40:18
guys, you know, look, Cunya, Cesco and Boomo second-half, you
40:23
know, give him a bit of time to settle down.
40:25
So I can see all of that. Irrespective of all of that,
40:28
irrespective of the fact we haven't had Europe, blah, blah,
40:31
blah, he's done a good job. And he just said I don't see
40:33
what the what the point of trying someone else is unless
40:36
that someone else has top, top pedigree.
40:39
We're like, oh, I have a plan in place.
40:41
A bit like you were saying, Ash, you know, Jurgen Klopp's on the
40:44
sidelines and he's my dream candidate.
40:47
And if I don't get that that dream candidate now, I might
40:50
miss out on the dream candidate. But tell me who this dream
40:53
candidate is, because I like Carlo Angelotti, but he's not a
40:56
you know, like I really love him.
40:58
He's amazing, but I don't see him as a manager in five years
41:00
time. Like Clops, clops, the guy that
41:02
you're like, OK, I'm going to take him and it's a project or
41:05
Pep Guardiola when City gone take him.
41:07
It's we're trying to rebuild the club a little bit through this
41:10
phase. Carrick's as good as anyone to
41:12
do that in my opinion. And if you see like Dabby Alonso
41:17
is an excellent. I wouldn't.
41:18
I'm not taking Zabby Alonso, Liverpool United, right?
41:21
I've taken him at Liverpool. I'm not taking him at United.
41:24
So then who? Last point on start.
41:25
Who around Madrid getting his manager apparently going for
41:28
Chelsea? Marini.
41:29
Jose Marini is this is I'm telling you, who do you want,
41:32
right? Chelsea, very full cycle now,
41:35
Chelsea, Stephen, Then I'll let you answer, right, Because I was
41:37
just looking at the league table because I was kind of fascinated
41:40
about like how you know, for example, if Reuben was in
41:43
charge, right? I mentioned we won 10 games,
41:46
right? We're six points clearer of
41:49
Liverpool. So even like say if we didn't
41:52
beat Man City and Arsenal, we'd be like 4th and 5th even with
41:56
Michael Carrick. So for me there is just like no
41:59
way Ruben would have just collected that amount of points
42:02
to be able to get top five. But anyway, Steve, tell us what
42:06
is your managerial plan? Well, and tell us about any us.
42:10
Yeah, we have to do a separate part on the process, but I think
42:13
Gary Neville probably summed it up quite nicely.
42:15
Although encountered to the point he was trying to make
42:18
cause Garry's been against Carrick getting the job from
42:21
when he first came in and he's still trying to hold out on that
42:24
position. But his argument bizarrely was
42:28
Carrick keeps the fans happy, he keeps the team happy and he
42:32
keeps the board happy. So surely that's like you're
42:35
ticking all boxes, right? It's a no brainer.
42:37
Like he's the perfect man in this structure as well.
42:40
Working with Wilcox, he's not going to kick up a fast.
42:43
He deserves it with the results that he's achieved and most
42:46
importantly, alternatives. There's no silver bullet.
42:50
These big names that we're talking about, they're not in
42:52
the mix right now. Carlo, Enrique, even Thomas, too
42:55
cool. They're not sitting there
42:57
waiting. The alternatives we're looking
42:58
at are Iriola Glasner, Marco Silva.
43:02
No, no, no. Do you know what I mean?
43:04
Eddie Howe. So that's the position we're in
43:06
and. Please know Thomas Frank.
43:09
Oh yeah, exactly so. Would you even want Thomas
43:12
Tookel like if it was available? No, he's the opposite of what I
43:15
want because this is my point. Like you want someone who isn't
43:18
going to conflict with the board.
43:20
We need to get the transfer windows correct.
43:22
And I don't want Thomas Tookel come in and going, right.
43:24
Yeah, let's get Eric Dyer and you know, Joe Paolini or
43:27
whatever other 2829 year old we want to go and get the 22 to 25
43:33
year olds and the names we're being linked with.
43:37
I like, you know, I know Elliot Anderson's probably going to Man
43:42
City, but you know, I'm sure we'll be linked again with
43:44
Belieber. I know he hasn't had the best
43:46
season, but at least, you know, young player, good profile.
43:49
I'm sure he can get over it and do well at United.
43:52
There's another good one, right? We've been linked to it.
43:55
I'm sure Adam Warton will get like mentioned again and that's
43:58
it. Oh, sure, sure, many.
44:00
I mean, sure, many would be. The only thing is I haven't
44:03
watched as much of, I don't watch as much football outside
44:08
the Premier League and. You'd be suspicious about why
44:12
Rahel is selling him, right? I can imagine.
44:14
As if he There's a few reasons. Yeah, I can imagine Rayal sell
44:18
because they often sell good players and that player might
44:21
not be perfect for Real Madrid. This is the point, yeah.
44:27
But is he might be. He could be good for us.
44:29
But I remember watching him initially the thing was he at
44:33
Monaco before this as well. So and that was like COVID when
44:37
I was just watching too much football and I was like, oh,
44:40
this is guy's perfect for Ollie's central midfield, like
44:43
very physical strong. So if we can get one of those to
44:46
play with Kobe, lots of legs, power, height, humany, that
44:53
would be amazing. But.
44:54
Just needs to check the injury record because I think he's been
44:58
patchy. But the other thing is, I mean,
45:01
look, he would improve the team and there's no doubt because the
45:05
baseline's pretty low. But the other thing is he's been
45:10
used kind of like sparingly between central midfield, centre
45:13
back. He's a bit like Cam of Inga.
45:16
They fill him with gaps. And he deserves to play.
45:19
Yeah, from the field, he's good enough. 100% he's like 25 going
45:23
on 26, so it'd be the right time.
45:25
But yeah, Steve's right. Like you got to be wary because
45:29
like, is this just a play for a new contract and and?
45:32
Also, I agree with Ineos. This is a good thing with Ineos.
45:36
One of the things maybe Steve would admit, one good thing of
45:40
Ineos somewhere is that, you know, they're not going to go
45:43
and be like, oh, yeah, let's pay for 400 grand a week.
45:46
And I don't, you know, do you know what I mean?
45:48
Like, this is what the Glazes or Edward would would do.
45:50
Oh, yeah. That's that's The Who was that
45:53
guy who came on one of those pods, The lawyer guy, I can't
45:57
remember. He was talking about the
45:58
Casimiro deal. Absolutely.
46:00
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:02
Well, that's just the market price we had to pay it.
46:04
It's like, no you don't mate. Moron.
46:06
You have to have a wage structure.
46:08
You've got to be sensible, right?
46:09
You can call Ineos type, but to me they're being sensible.
46:12
They they held Cobby Mainu all the way right to say no, no, you
46:15
can't be overpaid. And it makes sense.
46:18
You want to have a sensible good working structure.
46:22
And if Trumani asks for 400 grand, you just say no to him if
46:25
he's willing to pay in the wage structure.
46:27
Depends too, right? Like, you know, if Bruno was
46:29
going to renew, for example, or even you're going in for a Harry
46:32
Kane, then you might break for you.
46:35
Know, to be fair to Jim again, I hate defending Jim so much.
46:40
It's just the nature of you hating him so much.
46:43
But he always said that. He always said, Oh yeah, Bruno,
46:45
he deserves the money, right? Because that the exceptional
46:49
player deserves the money. So I do hope that, you know,
46:52
yeah, the, the names we're looking at, they will fit within
46:56
that wage structure. I just, yeah, I think
47:00
personally, the execution of central midfield players is more
47:03
important than any manager you could name.
47:06
Unless yeah, you, you, you do have this.
47:09
If you could bring Lewis, Enrique and sign 3 bowlers like,
47:14
you know, Xiao Nevers and Mutino.
47:16
Mutinia, Vitinia. Sorry.
47:19
Vitinia, yeah. This goes back to ownership.
47:22
That's more a Qatar model, isn't it?
47:23
To get the big name manager with big signings, right?
47:27
We won't. Be Saudi anymore.
47:30
Yeah, but that's the thing isn't it?
47:31
It all does philtre down from the ownership on how they want
47:35
to run the club and it's not really in US style to go and get
47:39
a Enrique I don't think, especially after Carrick's.
47:41
Done. I don't know.
47:42
I'm not Jim Ratcliffe. I disagree.
47:45
Yeah, he interviewed 2. He.
47:46
Likes he likes special special names Steve like look, he tried
47:51
to do Dan Ashworth. He he even said when he got him
47:55
best football director out there right.
47:57
But obviously we know Jim clashes with a lot of people.
48:00
I definitely think if Lewis Enrique was open to coming to
48:05
United, there is no way Jim Ratcliffe would not be.
48:09
Yeah, but if Louis, Louis Enrique said I need to spend 300
48:12
million in the summer with it, right?
48:14
It's not just the manager. Long as I think, what's the
48:16
demand? I think as long as they spend
48:18
the money wisely and the right age profile because look, Louis
48:21
Enrique was the guy who actually told Khalifa to look stop by me,
48:26
Neymar, Messi, get me the best French players in the in the
48:31
country. Yeah, and get me good midfield.
48:33
Like Pettini was Wolves guy, right?
48:35
He was not Yeah, not rejected Wolves.
48:38
Yeah, so yeah, and and Sharnevs was like a kid in the Portuguese
48:43
league. It was highly rated, but he's
48:45
still like 1920. That's a perfect in your
48:48
signing. So I think think Enrique is the
48:51
perfect guy. It's just, yeah, I just don't
48:53
see him coming. Yeah, it's not also.
48:56
Maybe next, maybe the year after or something.
48:58
Also, Louis Enrique was the guy who gave like that famous speech
49:02
to Mbappe, right? Like, you know, you got to do
49:04
more than just score goals. You got to press.
49:06
You got to be like Michael Jordan.
49:08
And now Sherlock, he goes to Real Madrid and Louis Enrique
49:13
goes, wins the Champions League, and he's on the verge at least
49:17
getting to the final anyway this week.
49:20
Yeah, all right, so just to close it off then, yeah, bit of
49:23
a worrying result in the title race tonight.
49:26
So Everton 3, Manchester City three.
49:29
Wow. And City equalised in the last
49:32
minute, so Everton were winning 32 and they've just equalised.
49:35
So still dropped two points right?
49:37
And in Arsenal's hands now so. I tell you what, though, West
49:41
Ham, Arsenal, there's a there's a surprise the the there's more
49:46
twists. So I thought he.
49:47
Was going to do a little Kevin Keegan speech there.
49:50
Let it's 30 years apparently. Since that, let me tell you.
49:54
Tell you what. Your title prediction could be
49:57
coming in and we're going to have to go into hiding in the
49:59
summer. Fucking how bloody hell.
50:02
Liverpool last summer, now Arsenal.
50:05
I, I I don't particularly like the Arsenal fans, I don't like
50:09
Michael Arteta, but I think for the good of the league it would
50:12
be nice to have a new winner, wouldn't it?
50:14
Someone different? Do we have to have City again?
50:17
Someone different but just I can't do Arsenal, Liverpool,
50:21
sorry. Yeah.
50:22
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's just Arsenal fans, isn't
50:25
it? That's the trouble.
50:25
But yeah, I mean, they've been knocking on the door for long.
50:28
Guys, they've been been through so much.
50:31
But Steve James Regan, you said the title was not in your hands.
50:38
I want, I want to see what you say now.
50:40
I think he's literally messaged and said it's in our hand, in
50:43
our hands now. So yeah, it's.
50:45
Someone's got excited all of a sudden.
50:48
Yeah, it's it's for them to go and deliver now.
50:51
So yeah, I mean, we've got a few games left, but not much to play
50:54
for other than trying to finish as high up in the league as
50:57
possible. Let's see if and when Carrot
51:00
gets announced. I feel like it's pretty much a
51:04
done deal, but we'll wait and see for the official
51:06
announcement, so. Do you want, do you want to know
51:08
one last rumour I heard today, Vincent Company, sorry Vasson
51:13
Company's assistant was Michael Carrick's ex assistant at
51:17
Middlesbrough and there's a good possibility he's joining us in
51:22
the summer. Wow.
51:24
So that probably tells you what's happening.
51:28
Yeah, exactly. So it'll be interesting to see
51:31
if there's an announcement before the end of the season.
51:33
I don't think they will. I think they'll wait till the
51:35
end. Yeah, because they want to,
51:37
apparently they want to interview other other candidates
51:40
as well. We'll do it.
51:41
We'll do a separate part on the process because there's more I
51:43
want to unpick on that, but I think for for now we'll leave it
51:47
there. 3 two against Liverpool late winner Kobe Maynu born and
51:51
bred Manchester and we beat Liverpool 32 and done the double
51:55
over them this season and it's nearly been a year since Bilbao.
51:57
Can you believe that? Wow, that's.
52:00
Incredible and how things change.
52:03
And all we have to say is, you know, the, the, the fact that
52:06
the Champions League is back. Yeah, exactly.
52:10
And new group stage format. Big ties at Old Trafford.
52:14
Yeah. Boys, let's see what happens to
52:18
Jet Fuel and let's get those tickets booked.
52:21
Yeah, exactly. European away trip has to be
52:24
done next season, so we'll leave it there for now.
52:27
Thanks for joining us on this one, and we'll catch you on the
52:30
next episode.