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Good Thursday Morning, T Jeff Jenkins with you at Harvey Peyton O the
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Peyton Law Firm in night at the star of our show. Any questions about
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the law, give us a call. Three oh four three four five fifty
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eight fifty eight. Three oh four three four five fifty eight fifty eight Harvey,
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how you doing. I'm doing quite well now. As a matter of
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full disclosure to the listeners. Tom and I are the stars of the show
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because we buy the show. Well, yeah, that's yes, that is
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your show. It is indeed a form of advertising, although we find we've
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been doing it now for over twenty five years and find it quite quite enjoyable.
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You know, we get a lot of calls at the office. We
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see a lot of people who say, well, listen to you on the
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radio. I want to ask you a question, which we try to respond
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to as reasonably as you can, and you have to watch. You know.
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Some folks will call, well can they do that? Well, I
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can't tell you over the telephone what someone can do and can't do, because
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you're going to go tell that person. I talk to a lawyer and they
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say YadA, YadA, yadas. You know, at this point, if
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you want to hire us, you may have something that needs a lawyer.
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If you want to hire as you need to make an appointment and come on
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in. And most people understand that. But it has been an enjoyable experience.
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One of the things is it get gets me into Charleston a few days
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a month with an opportunity to go down to the courthouse which is quite enjoyable.
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The Knall County Courthouse, the old building, you know, the judicial
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annex. I guess they're preparing to do some major works like it. Well
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they're going to have to, because, like everything, that was a big
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fight to get that building. I mean I practiced law the first decade or
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so, trying cases in Kanaw County in the old courthouse where there were just
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almost like cardboard courtrooms set up. And then there was the old voters Registration
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building which is now the parking lot next door, and the old jail which
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now the front of the old jail is the fiduciary office. It was horrible.
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There were no rooms to meet with witnesses, for witnesses to sit other
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than just the no rooms to meet with a client, very small courtrooms,
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no security to all. I mean, it was just unworkable. And for
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whatever reason at that time, and I believe probably was the movement started in
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the late nineteen eighties, the judges in Kanlawa County I actually had, I
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believe, threatened to see or did I actually bring an action against the County
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Commission saying, you know, you've got a duty to provide adequate courtroom space,
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particularly after the judicial reorganization when they all became circuit judges, and so
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the building was built, you know, under a sort of form of compulsion.
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It's pretty well designed, but you know, there isn't really an information
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desk area in the front, so you walk through security and you go right
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into the lobby where people wait for hearings in magistrate court, which can be
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quite heated. You know, you've got witnesses, you've got parties on either
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side, for instance, up a little bit of organized chaos there at time.
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Well, it is and very slow elevators. That Originally there was you
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know, a food stand on the second floor outside the circuit clerk's office.
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That went away some time ago. I remember that, yes, well,
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mostly because of complaints from the employees. Not that the food was bad,
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but you know, if you're in there working in the circuit clerk's office,
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you don't want to smell a restaurant, I mean all day long. And
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then the grand jury room area was on the same floor the prosecutor's office.
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Well, the Supreme Court then said that they couldn't be used for that,
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so then that became some office space for the court administrator and they knew for
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the grand jury somewhere else, since grand jurors is supposed to be independent and
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not under too much influence from the prosecution. Then you know, you recall
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that the part of the first floor of the parking garage was taken for that's
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where the family courts or were, and those have been remodeled. It really
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isn't a lot of securities on one sally port in the back for to transport
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in and out of prisoners and for access by courthouse personnel and particularly the judges.
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You know, in this day and ages, can't have judges walking around
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in and out of the courthouse. You hate to say it, but it's
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not secure and it's dangerous. Now. After that building was built in the
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late nineteen nineties, there was a movement in Putnam County to move out of
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the old courthouse there, which was even more inadequate than the Kanaal County old
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courthouse. It had one court room, was on the second floor, it
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was not handicapped accessible. When Putnam got two judges, the County Commission rented
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an abandoned post office building across the street in Winfield, and that's where Judge
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Spaulding held court when he was in Mason County, but still came to Putton
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County a couple of days a week to your cases. And when they switched
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and Judge Watt went to Mason County and Spaulding came to Putnam County, they
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switched and it was just the same thing. Had one really bad incident there
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where you know, a parent of a victim, not an alleged victim,
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but a victim of a sexual assault, just col Cox the perpetrator in a
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little handing room. They're about the courthouse where by the court room, right
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near Don Wright's office, and inadequate. So you know, we're in pretty
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good shape. And Puttenham still, although we've had some movement around, we
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still don't only have two judges three magistrates. I think our space is adequate.
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Now we've got a new law enforcement building that was built between the old
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courthouse and the judicial annexe first to the Sheriff's law enforcement, which is quite
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good. But keep in mind as we talk about this, if you're listening,
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early voting started yesterday statewide, and this morning I heard the announcement here
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about the places the whole court, like the fire department at the Saint's Public
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Library, Marmot Community Center, Help View, and the Voters Registration Office,
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the Girl Scout Office on the west side. Early voting, as Mike Warner
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said, I heard his public service announcement today on this station. Theod thing
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about early voting is you can go to any of these designated locations in Putnam
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County. It's in the old Courthouse building in the ceremonial court room on the
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second floor, or at Valley Park in sort of the Convention Meeting center down
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there. So unlike election day, where you have to seek out and find
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a particular precinct and vote, and there may be lighter or heavier voting that
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causes delays, early voting is a really good time. This is not absentee
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Valley. This is in person. You go in, you tell the person
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what vallot you want. Because it's the primary, you're going to get either
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a Democratic or a Republican party, and if you're an independent, you can
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vote in either primary, at least this year. I think perhaps the Republican
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Party has voted that in the next election cycle that will not let independence vote,
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and the efficacy of that we'll see down the road. I don't know.
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I think the purpose is to drive more people to register a Republican so
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that they can vote in the primary. I'm not sure that's going to work,
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but that's up to the party. That's up to an executive committee.
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But the important thing to remember, even though you're asking for a partisan ballot
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is there are non partisan races on the ballot. All of the judicial officers
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for the state of West Virginia are up for election this time in May,
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and there will be no general election runoff unless in a multi candidate judges race,
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if a candidate gets less than any candidate gets less than thirty you know,
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if you've got a five person race for one seat. And I'm not
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sure that's that's not the case here, it's not the case in Putnam.
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We did have a circumstance in Rawley County. You don't recall for an unfilled
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seat where they had five candidates for a circuit judge ship. Well, obviously,
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a person with twenty one percent of the vote is going to win a
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plurality at a five person race. So the legislature the amended that if there's
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a plurality, even though if it's less than thirty percent, thirty percent or
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less of the vote then the top two candidates are on the ballot and a
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non partisan race in November. But other than that exceptional circumstance, all of
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the judicial positions that we have two Supreme Court seats, they're uncontested. We
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have all the Circuit court seats. There are two contested Circuit Court seats in
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Kanawa County. One is an incumbent, Jennifer Bailey is got a challenger and
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the other is because there's a new seat there's an eighth judge. And the
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Puttnam County we have two judges, one one Incomb and Judge Stowers has a
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challenger. We just have to see how that comes out on election day.
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Then there's a I mean, I went to the Putnam County Chamber of Commerce
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candidate forum on Tuesday, and and I went with Ryan White, who's who's
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a candidate for the office of Intermediate Court of Appeals, and really smart people
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former sheriff, a county commissioner, another county commissioner, people work at the
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bank, and folks who are remembers of the Chamber who were there all had
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the same impression I did. This is almost an unheard of, an unknown
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race. We have not seen or heard anything about a candidate's forum or not
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much about interviews with these candidates. One lady is from Wheeling. Admittedly there's
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a geographic push pull there to get these candidates together, but two of the
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candidates are from Charleston. Ryan White is the person that I favor because I
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think he's well qualified. He is a business background, doing bond work for
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cities and counties and representing small business, and he is down. I think
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we're in business with Larry Pack who's now the Economy. I think Larry's sun
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is Ryan's treasurer. So it would seem to me that on the Intermediate Pellate
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Court, since we now have a business court at the CERC court level,
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that having someone with a pretty solid business back. I worked at Jackson Kelly
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right. You can't get a lot more sort of pro business than that.
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But it's a race. It's just not gotten a lot of push and it's
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a really important because there are only three judges on the Intermediate Court of Appeals,
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and initially they were appointed by the governor served two years, like two
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years, four years, six years staggered terms and Tom Scarr, who was
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the first staggered turn of expier, decided he didn't want to run again.
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And you know, I think Judge gar did a good job. I think
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it's just it's a taxing job and he's near retirement. But after but the
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person elected Dismay is going to serve ten years, so you're talking about a
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ten year term. On of court, it only has three judges. Two
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to one is a majority. Two to one wins in that case. So
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one see, it's like being a county commissioner. You know, you've only
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got to get one other ally to promote a policy or to decide a case.
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And so in that regard, it's even though the Supreme Court races are
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uncontested, they're important. Charlie Trump, I think is going to be an
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excellent Supreme Court justice. Excellent. The Yeah, anybun who's appointed to Philip
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vacancy, she's performed well. I think she's come to several Bar Association and
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state bar meetings and conferences that I've attended. I think she's quite well spoken,
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understands the workings of the court. They've seen to it at Kanaw County
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and now has e filing is in step, and they are working on getting
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a system in West Virginia like the PACER system, so that now we have
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E filing. We've had E filing for decades in the US district courts,
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and they also have in the district courts of systems of the public that's called
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PACER, so that if you are enrolled, you can go into a case
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and you can see everything that's been filed in the case, not just a
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current filing, not just a docket sheet, but you have the ability to
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scan and if you're not counsel in the cakes mean, you guys are in
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PACER because veterary. Yeah, I hope we can get it to circuit court
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because now I mean, even the electronic filing, you still have to go
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to the courthouse and to use a terminal. Well, the good thing about
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it is it makes the whole that makes the system more transparent, and the
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more people understand about the workings of the law, the more confidence they have
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in the system. There's no trick to this. I mean, it's people
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who are well educated and well trained and have experience in the practice of law
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who operate in an adversary system. You know what work you have to do,
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you know what facts you have to gather. You're looking for a judge
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who's non partisan and impartial. Politics has no place in either the campaign or
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in the courtroom. I believe I was an opponent of non partisan elections,
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but it wasn't popular on my side of the equation. I mean trial lawyers.
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So well, we know that Democrats tend to be more favorable to plaintiffs
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and working folks and Republicans. But that's gone, and it's a good thing.
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Because take Jim Holiday, one of the best judges we ever had in
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West Virginia. Of course, he was in Patnam and we've been a really
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non partisan sort of county for decades. We've had Republican office holders, Democrat
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office holders, independents. Now there are more Republicans than Democrats in county wide
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offices. But hey, that'll ebb and flow because we look for good people.
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I mean that Jim Holly would have had trouble getting elected. He was
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from Logan County originally, well his Republican he probably couldn't have gotten elected.
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Now that just wouldn't be right. So think about that if you're listening,
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pay attention to those their school boards. But then there's every magistrate, every
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circuit judge, two Supreme Court seats, which are really important, but they're
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uncontested. But then this race for the Intermediate Appellate Court, you're going to
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decide who is going to sit on that court for the next ten years.
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Now, I said, I'm not making this an advertisement for Ryan White,
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and he's forty five years old. He's well educated and well qualified. Because
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the race has sort of been overlooked, I don't think we really know much
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of out the other candidates. Michael Schultz is yeah. I know Michael Schultz,
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ye, but I do not know him. I've never had any Dinners
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attorney. And that's the lady mccardinal Elgiam McCardell, who was the Republican party
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chair you know. And I don't know Elda mccardial. I mean, Wheeling
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is a very nice town. I do know. I actually listened to her
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speak on a copy show a couple of times, and I was really kind
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of surprised she was a lawyer, to tell you the truth. I mean,
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but I think I think this. You know, she was in a
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partisan position as a state Republican chairman, so perhaps some of her comments were
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with her partisan hat on as opposed to her I haven't qualified to be a
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judge hat right. I mean, so you get people the benefit of the
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doubt. You never imply evil motives. Let's take our break, Carvey,
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and then we're going to take a caller called in with a question that I've
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got this, and also or you can call our producer if you don't want
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is five. They need you EHS. The Voice of Charleston Jeff Jenkins with
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you and Harvey Peyton and the Peyton Law Firm in Nitro. And the number
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to call here is three O four three four five fifty eight fifty eight three
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O four three four five fifty eight fifty to be on the earth, Harvey,
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any questions about the law, or you can give me information to our
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producer. He'll pass along like this caller did. Here's the question, Harvey,
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with all the political ads happening, wasn't there an ethics code that says
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law enforcement can't appear in political ads? If so, then why is the
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Putnam County shaff for someone saying they are part of the Putnam County Sheriff appearing
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at political ads in Putnam County. Well, it is the Putnam County Sheriff
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because matter of full disclosure, I mean Bobby Agelson, I consider it my
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friend of mine. I mean we don't socialize. But he was the chief
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of police in Nitro and I knew him quite well. Then ran a really
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good department. He was a police officer in the city of Charles, the
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retired detective. Retired detective, and you know he won a county wide race.
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Our politics are different, but again it's Putnham county. So that doesn't
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make a lot of difference, and I certainly don't support his candidate for governor.
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But he's an elected official and law enforce. A sheriff is not exclusively
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a law enforcement officer. He's also the tax collector and the treasurer for the
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county, and he's not a civil service The distinction is, I understand it,
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and I'm not often involved pre election in litigation relative to election law.
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I have been involved in a lot of election contests. But a civil service
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police officer, deputy sheriff whose subject to civil service, a municipal police officer,
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even the chief of police, they're all subject to they're appointed, they're
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subject to civil service rules. State troopers are prohibited by law from engaging in
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any political activity. That does not apply to the sheriff. I think either
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the sheriff or chief Johnny Ruffer is he's not sheriff Mike Ruthophy, Yeah,
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but he appears in a commercial for Judge Baty, right, So that's the
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distinction. They're not civil service police officers who are prohibited by law from engaging
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in political activity, nor are they state troopers who are prohibited by statute.
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I believe from any political activity. He's an elect official and therefore he has
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the ability to speak as he chooses. Three or four three four five fifty
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eight fifty the number three oh four three four five fifty fifty. What do
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you think, Harvey, that app that adding a new judge which they still
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have to make room for in a couple of new magistrates in kandall country.
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I mean, how especially on the judge on the judicial front, how will
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that help the case load? I think I'm still help it tremendously. Kanawha
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County. I think it's a bit of a bad rap. I mean,
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I'll have to say, I prefer in the three main counties where I practiced
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in state court, Mason, Putnam, Kanah. If I can find a
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way to file a case in Putnam County, I will because we have two
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judges judges excuse me, it's a smaller courthouse and you can get access more
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quickly. Kanaha County is overcrowded. The judges are overworked, the magistrates are
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overworked. Their facilities are not good. The magistrates courts, in particular,
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their clerk's office is crammed in there on the first floor. You've got a
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terrible situation about courtrooms. I would think that having an eight eighth judge in
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Kanawha County will We'll make it a twelve and a half percent improvement. It
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would certainly have to. Now, none of the folks who are running for
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that judge ship that I've seen, have any judicial experience, but experiences a
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dear school. But fools learn from the other. I mean, they are
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all seasoned attorneys. I know rich Lindsay is the only one that I know
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who's running. I mean, he's been an attorney for decades. I know
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him. I know he was in the State Senate. I know his father,
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mother. It's a job you grow into and you have to have some
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training. The Supreme Court doesn't just let neophyte lawyers who are or like the
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judges, just jump down into the bench. The Supreme Court has some requirements
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before you take especially, they send them out to Reno, Nevada, to
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the judicial school so you can learn the basics of how to be a judge.
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The hardest thing to do is a judge. I would think, if
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you've been a lawyer and actually practiced, is keeping your nose out of a
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trial as you sit there and they think and I was bothing with judges like
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Hobby Spalding, Jim Holiday, Clarence Watt, they all tried lawsuits, they
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were all prosecutors, and all three of them said, you know, the
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ardest thing to do is just have to bite your tonguecause you're up on the
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bench and say, well, ask this, ask this. But you can't
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really do it when you're a judge, and you can't and you really cannot
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speak out and interject yourself into the trial because that may get the jury the
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idea that you're picking aside. And so it's really difficult to do. And
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of course the other thing you think about it about a judge. You think
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about my cousin, Vinny. You know, what did you say? What
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are you talking? When you think about a trial court, whether it's trying
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a murder case or a robbery case, you don't think about a boundary line
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dispute. You don't think about a contestant adoption, you don't think about abuse
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and neglect, things that you know, appeals and domestic cases, things that
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are just utterly got exciting wrong. For occupation, there's a lot, you're
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not kidding, but it's the work. It has to be done. It's
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like the making sausage, you know, and you may be involved in one
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high visibility case and I think it's probably as tiring for the judge as it
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is for the lawyers, because you have to know something about both sides of
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the case if you're trying a lawsuit, and you have to be really careful
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not to interject yourself into the case to give the jury an idea one with
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the other. And you know, deciding whether a person is worthy of belief
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or trust, it's hard to do when you have to make the call.
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There's no anonymity in being a judge. Someone comes before you and they're there
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and they testify a particular way about an issue you have to decide, and
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another person testifies about that issue, and you have to sit there and decide
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that one of them is wrong and may not be telling the truth. Now,
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that's just a hard thing to do mentally. And sentencing, I have
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seen a couple of judges literally break down and sentencing people because when I saw
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one in Putnam County, the defendant was indeed a pitiful, sympathetic person with
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a degree of disability not sufficient to relieve him of criminal responsibility, but to
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see him as a person who had been sort of cast aside by society,
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sort of the flotsam, and he committed a henosik to kill a man with
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a knife as a home invaser was trying to break into the man's house.
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The man came out and he was elderly, gentlely got in a fight and
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he stabbed him. And you know, the only sentence available after the jury
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learned the case's life in prison without the possibility of parole. And yeah,
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he just looking and think, well, was that just I don't know.
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I mean, but you're a jidge. You're legally bound. You have to
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do that. You have to perform your duty, just like the court the
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legal case that broke this morning. County commissioners in Jefferson County have to perform
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their duty. Now we know, because it's not a story that's been really
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germane here, because Jefferson County is about as far as you can get from
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here and still be in West Virginia. Actually it is as far as you
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get still be in West Virginia. But it's Hoppey Kerchible's home county. And
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I know that he personally looked followed the case of the two county commissioners who
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refused to come to work because they have a different setup in Jefferson County.
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They have five, they have a county council. I'm not sure that may
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have been an accommodation made to Jefferson County. There was only a couple of
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counties that had that Preston County at one time when I was doing it,
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but then they changed. Yeah, they had eight at one point, and
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I think it had something to do with the election that was held, the
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referendum on statehood during the Civil War, and how you would accommodate those counties.
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They needed a deal. Yeah, one one commissioner resigned in Jefferson County,
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so I left four. The commission went through the legal process to name
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a replacement that two of the commissioners weren't satisfied with because the County Republican Executive
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Committee did not name one of the people they wanted on the commission. Well,
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you get a chance to have a fair shot at it. You don't
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get a lot guaranteed to Wednesday and said we're saw going to come to meetings
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unless you do what we want to do, we will not come to meetings,
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and you cannot have a quorum, So the county couldn't award grants,
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they couldn't let out for bids, they couldn't do a lot of sign contracts.
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Yes, yes, I couldn't do a lot of things. They just
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simply refused and tell A judge ordered them after about four months to go back
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to work. But during that seriod of time they collected their salary, so
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I think they got what they deserved. I haven't read the opinion, but
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I know that judge Reader from Putnam County was on the three judge panel and
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the standard to remove it, and I liked it. Official it's clear and
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convincing evidence, not a preponderance, now, not beyond a reasonable doubt,
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but clear and convincing, which is a level above just probability, that they
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neglected their duties and for that reason should be removed. And they were removed.
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Book gone. I mean it was immediate too. When that order came
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down. That's oh yeah, it's self execute. Yeah, they're done and
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they're gone. I mean I saw that happen in a trial in Putnham County.
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We had a county commissioner who was I think it was an innocent mistake
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on his part. But he owned a construction company that did some public utility
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work for one of the public service districts in the county. And then in
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his Cedus County Commissioner he voted to approve some of the funding. Well,
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that was the defaulcation and he was tried. Jerry Cook was the judge from
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Boone County that came up to try the case. The verdict was rendered that
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he had had a lawful conflict and he said, you know right, you're
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removed from office because the conviction in the misdemeanor criminal case was a disqualifying and
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just you're gone today. So they're they're gone now. There's a promise of
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an appeal. But we'll see how that is. One of those folks I
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think is running for a statewide office and the other one may just go back
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and there's going to be a vacancy. Just run for the office again.
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I mean, if you won the last time. I remember that's what happened
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down in Tennessee. The three members of the Tennessee House were removed for making
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a sort of a demonstration on the floor of the House and they okay,
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there's a vacancy. Special election has to bel they is filed for office and
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were re elected. So the price suspect that's what will happen in Jefferson County.
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If the people have supporters, this will solidify it one way or the
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other. I mean, it's one of those sort of trumpean things doing a
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bad thing and being convicted. You can either hurt or help right. Sometimes
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you're a victim three or four three four five fifty fifty three or four three
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four five fifty fifty. So the Painton Law Firm, as you like to
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say, and I like the like this phrase you use, you practice law
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at sea level. We do do we do. Indeed, the law is
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often written and courts often function in an ivory tower setting, detached and removed
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from the sea level, where folks live, work and have problems. And
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our law firm we don't fly around in a private jet. And we're not
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the biggest law firm in the world. And we are two people who are
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really smart and who really do a good job in court, who represent our
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clients, all of whom are either individuals or some small business folks. People
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who have been injured in an auto accident, they've had a loss, somebody
31:52
was killed, they've suffered a loss because an insurance company won't pay a legitimate
31:57
claim and a bank has done him in on some sort of a loane transaction.
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So you can come and talk to us, right, and either me
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or Tom oldest boy, both of whom have been in practice for a considerable
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period of time. Me fifty years, him twenty three years. Gratulations on
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your recent recognition of the fifty years. Yeah, well if you stay around.
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You know, John Houston had a great line in the movie Chinatown when
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he played the villain and they said, well, how how come here respectably?
32:34
He said, well, I'm respectable because old buildings and old prostitutes all
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look better with age, and I'm old. That's that was my answer.
32:44
I've got the John Houston excuse. They give you awards to make sure you
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retire. It's like going to a funeral to make sure the guy's dead.
32:52
Right, they give you an award, say you're okay, you can be
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the small for you can be the solo practitioner of the year. Now go
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away that it's fun send off. But no, that's true. We are
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our practice. I've worked, got out of law school, worked in Elkins
33:10
for seventy four and seventy five. A real soft spot in my heart for
33:15
Elkins. They're really on the upswing. Now build a new big convention center
33:19
there. Oh yeah, yeah. The Tiger Hotel has been red on the
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hotel. We did the hotel. Now they've got a I guess a Branson
33:25
type show place down in Beverly. We're going up. My wife and are
33:29
going up in June for a couple of days to take it in. And
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then I worked with another lawyer here in Charleston, but I was a subordinate
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and that's like three years of working for somebody else that'said I'm not cut out
33:39
for this, And so I have been a solo practitioner for forty seven or
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a small farm. I worked with three other lawyers, then two, and
33:46
then now it's just one other. And so we know the type of problems
33:52
that people have walk on our doors. Not just be on your cell phone
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and send a text to some law firm based in Florida that's the biggest in
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the world, and tell them about your case and they can email you the
34:04
document to sign and you can email it back and then they can put a
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little e transfer some money into your bank account. Now that's the way you
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want to be treated when you have a problem that may affect the rest of
34:17
your life and may end up in the future having problems that you haven't foreseen.
34:22
I can't imagine that's what people want, but that's what you're going to
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get with the Payton Law Firm. We stand behind our work too. If
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someone comes in five years later says I've got a question about what you did,
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well, come on, let's talk about it and see what you know.
34:37
If it turns out, well, maybe we didn't cut the mustard on
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this one, I'll make it right with you. I mean, that's just
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the way it is. It's the kind of service you get when you deal
34:45
one on one with people. I saw Larry Dawson yesterday. Larry's not doing
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much car business now, but like Larry always said, you know these car
34:52
deals online, get involved and then you'll find out, well, the paint's
34:58
not right, or it's not as the shape as you said, it's never
35:00
going to work out right. But if you go see Larry and his car
35:04
dealership, he can look at you in the eye and say, well,
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here's what I can give you for this car, and here's why. If
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you come down to the Peyton Law Firm. We'll look at in the eye
35:10
and say, if you higher rise, we'll work as hard as we can
35:14
for you to get you as close to we can as we can to where
35:17
you want to be, keeping in mind sometimes it maybe cost you more to
35:22
get there than you want to pay, and that's your decision to me.
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But that's one of the things I really like about our office, really like
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And you know, of course Putnam County is our primary well, Putnam County
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in western Canalk County, Cross Lane, Saint Albans, Dunbar, Tornado,
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Brown's Creek, Lick Skillett. That's my oldest though I grew up in an
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area that was generally known as LyX Skillett. Think about that. That implies
35:52
a particular degree of hunger during the depression. I think we fella used to
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tell me a nitro when you could smell bacon cooking anywhere on one of the
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blocks of Nitra in the thirties, that people kids just gathered around because their
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mom would say says, if you can get some of that grease and bring
36:08
it home, we'll make them gravy. But I suspect that was the same
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way up Cabin Creek too, and Hugh's's Creek and Kelly's Creek. You know
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one thing we probably don't have much time in a minute, all right,
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well in a minute, I'm not going to I want to go into this
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perhaps next week. But there's a lot of fraud that's going on. I
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mean, it's just endemic. And I was talking to the folks at the
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bank and they actually now have a shack list that they go through with their
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customers. Here's things you need to watch out for. I'll go through this
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hopefully if I'm here next week or we can do this. But if you
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have suffered a loss and feel yourself in need of a lawyer, certainly television
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advertising is an important thing. I don't know that it's the basis to make
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it a very important decision. It may affect your life and your families.
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But you can call us five fifty five fifty six, you can send us
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an email at Peyton Lawfirm dot com. You can stop by the office and
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talk to me or Tom. We'll give you an honest, straightforward evaluation of
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what your situation is as we see it, and what we can do to
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help you is We're here to help you and what's going to be involved and
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you can decide based upon that who you want to be your life. Maybe
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somebody else. But if you give us a look, I would think go
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like what you see eight oh one First Avenue in Nightbrill, West, Prjina
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