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- 0:05Speaker 1: Nstance. I'll read it and this is.
- 0:21Speaker 2: All right, everybody, welcome to your on book show on
- 0:23Speaker 2: this Wednesday, May six.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Hope everybody's having a fantastic time, a good week. Uh.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I finished my classes on my capitalism course at the
- 0:38Speaker 2: University of Austin in Texas yesterday. Uh. Seven classes two
- 0:44Speaker 2: hours each, all on capitalism. Yesterday was the section on
- 0:49Speaker 2: the morality of capitalism. All the students had to read
- 0:52Speaker 2: Capitalism then an Ideal by Ironman, and they also had
- 0:55Speaker 2: to read a book and about how how the world
- 0:57Speaker 2: got rich and and today I'm giving them an exam,
- 1:04Speaker 2: so we'll see how they do a two hour exam today.
- 1:08Speaker 1: They and three questions.
- 1:12Speaker 2: They get to answer two of the three questions in
- 1:14Speaker 2: essay essay form. They're gonna do that live in the class,
- 1:20Speaker 2: so no use of AI. And I'm looking forward to
- 1:24Speaker 2: seeing how they answer the questions and what they got
- 1:27Speaker 2: out of the course, what actually sunk in enough to
- 1:30Speaker 2: be able to replicate in an essay.
- 1:33Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to that.
- 1:40Speaker 2: I try tomorrow to Denver, and I do a talk
- 1:43Speaker 2: on Friday and Denver and then I go home on Saturday.
- 1:45Speaker 2: So for sure there'll be a show Sunday. I'm hoping
- 1:48Speaker 2: they'll be a show tomorrow from Denver. Nothing on Friday,
- 1:52Speaker 2: nothing on Saturday, show on Sunday.
- 1:55Speaker 1: That's the schedule, all right, anything, I don't think I
- 2:00Speaker 1: have any other things.
- 2:03Speaker 2: So we can jump right into the news. And really
- 2:06Speaker 2: the news, the news here is is dominated by Trump
- 2:13Speaker 2: flip flopping, flopping, flip flopping.
- 2:16Speaker 1: All over the place. Basically really all over the place.
- 2:20Speaker 2: So you know, Trump ordered the military to pause Operation Freedom,
- 2:27Speaker 2: Project Freedom, which was supposed to open the straits of
- 2:30Speaker 2: Homoes for shipping.
- 2:32Speaker 1: It turns out that.
- 2:35Speaker 3: For for I guess, a couple of weeks before the
- 2:39Speaker 3: Operation Freedom was announced, the US Navy had sent underwater
- 2:43Speaker 3: drones to kind of clear a path.
- 2:46Speaker 1: It's not clear if they blew up minds or but they.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Found a path it was unobstructed, and then they marked
- 2:53Speaker 2: that path and told chips to start traveling through it
- 2:57Speaker 2: to show that it worked. To US destroyers traverse that
- 3:02Speaker 2: path that the underwooter drones had had created. Uh, and
- 3:08Speaker 2: then the idea was that other ships would follow anyway,
- 3:13Speaker 2: good idea and good execution by the Navy. And then
- 3:17Speaker 2: Trump said, no, we're gonna stop this operation Project.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Freedom, Project freedom not to why that was the name
- 3:28Speaker 1: given to it. Because we're gonna pause it. We're not
- 3:31Speaker 1: gonna stop it. We're gonna posit it like we paused
- 3:33Speaker 1: the war, like we.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Paused you know, my decision to blow them into the
- 3:38Speaker 2: Stone Age, like we pause everything else. We're gonna pause
- 3:41Speaker 2: it and and we're gonna go back to negotiating table
- 3:46Speaker 2: because we're really close to deal, really close to deal,
- 3:49Speaker 2: because you know the people in in in in Tehran,
- 3:54Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they really want a deal.
- 3:55Speaker 1: They're really close. They're willing to do everything we want
- 3:58Speaker 1: them to do. It's it's imminent. It's imminent.
- 4:01Speaker 2: And Trump has expressed his interest in getting a deal
- 4:05Speaker 2: done before he travels to China. I guess in about
- 4:09Speaker 2: ten days, Right about ten days, he said there was
- 4:14Speaker 2: great progress towards the deal, which he said before. Right,
- 4:18Speaker 2: he said over and over and over again as he
- 4:23Speaker 2: described it. So, according to according to Axious, and according
- 4:27Speaker 2: to Trump Acxious and Trump on the same page, right now,
- 4:31Speaker 2: the US and Iran are closer to the deal than
- 4:33Speaker 2: any point since the war begun.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Here's the outline. This is the outline according to the US.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Right, you won freezers in Richmond for up to for
- 4:44Speaker 2: up to fifteen years.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Hey, he got five years over Obama.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Obama, they won enriching, couldn't enrich freezed in enrichment for
- 4:53Speaker 2: ten years. Iran ships it's highly enriched uranium to the US.
- 5:00Speaker 1: That's good.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Eases straight restrictions, not clear what the hell that means,
- 5:05Speaker 2: and get sanctioned relief in return. According to what I've seen,
- 5:10Speaker 2: I mean, there are a thousand versions running around, but
- 5:13Speaker 2: what I've seen is they would agree to some kind
- 5:16Speaker 2: of memo, memorandum of agreement to continue to negotiating that
- 5:21Speaker 2: had highlights for plan to be negotiated over the next
- 5:26Speaker 2: thirty days, and in the meantime, the United States would
- 5:28Speaker 2: already unfreeze assets.
- 5:31Speaker 1: You remember how.
- 5:31Speaker 2: They flipped out when Biden unfrees some Iranian assets, and
- 5:36Speaker 2: of course when Obama kind of deal with uranians.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Trump is doing the same thing.
- 5:44Speaker 2: This is what Trump said, if you run agrees with us,
- 5:47Speaker 2: it's over. If they don't, we're going to bomb them
- 5:50Speaker 2: all right. But he's been saying that for weeks.
- 5:54Speaker 1: On the other hand, Iran state media.
- 5:57Speaker 2: And officials in the GC are saying they don't know
- 6:02Speaker 2: what Trump's talking about. They haven't agreed to anything. The
- 6:05Speaker 2: whole thing they say is market manipulation. Of course, the
- 6:07Speaker 2: stock's up, stock markets up. All prices are down. They
- 6:11Speaker 2: were down really sharply earlier.
- 6:13Speaker 1: They back up a little bit. I'll tell you why
- 6:15Speaker 1: in a minute.
- 6:16Speaker 2: And according to the Iranians, nothing is actually happening. According
- 6:23Speaker 2: to some Iranians. Are the Iranians like the Foreign minister
- 6:26Speaker 2: right now is in Beijing. They saying no, no, you know,
- 6:29Speaker 2: we're close to their deal. But the people in Iran
- 6:31Speaker 2: are saying nothing's happening. Trump's making this all this up right. Yeah,
- 6:39Speaker 2: So the Galibalf, who is the speaker of the Iranian parliament,
- 6:46Speaker 2: said Iran is winning no matter what happens, and he's right,
- 6:50Speaker 2: I think ultimately. I mean, it's shocking to me to
- 6:52Speaker 2: say this, but I think it's true. He says, we're
- 6:55Speaker 2: not welling militarily, but because the real battlefield really is
- 7:00Speaker 2: economic and social. He says, you are holding together, which
- 7:04Speaker 2: nobody expected. And you know, Washington generally is operating on
- 7:09Speaker 2: bad intelligence and doesn't really know what it's doing.
- 7:12Speaker 1: I believe that.
- 7:15Speaker 2: And they were at the same time Gulf States Yuee
- 7:18Speaker 2: which got attacked yesterday significantly, and the US did nothing
- 7:22Speaker 2: about it and said they would do nothing about it,
- 7:25Speaker 2: and whose ships still can't pass the Homemost traits and
- 7:29Speaker 2: Bahrain and maybe even uh probably in a Katab but
- 7:33Speaker 2: Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. They're completely furious, pissed off. Right,
- 7:41Speaker 2: the US did nothing when Yui was attacked. What does
- 7:46Speaker 2: American security guarantees actually mean?
- 7:49Speaker 1: What are they worth? In the Trump era?
- 7:51Speaker 2: They mean nothing, They're worth nothing. Trump does not abide
- 7:55Speaker 2: by his word. He's not His word is not worth
- 7:58Speaker 2: the I don't know ink that it's printed on of course,
- 8:02Speaker 2: not printed. It just mouthed. He'll say anything. So who
- 8:10Speaker 2: knows what's actually going on Trump's I don't know what
- 8:14Speaker 2: Trump is doing. I mean, look, Trump is on fundamentally philosophically,
- 8:20Speaker 2: Trump is on a primacy of consciousness premise. There's a
- 8:23Speaker 2: sense in which he believes that if he says it,
- 8:27Speaker 2: it will be so that him saying something makes it true.
- 8:32Speaker 2: He's really epistemologically completely.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Corrupt and gone. There's essentially which he believes that if
- 8:40Speaker 1: he says it, keeps.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Repeating it, says it what wills it wishes it demands it,
- 8:46Speaker 2: argues for it, yells at it.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Then he will get his weight. The Ranians a kind
- 8:52Speaker 1: of city bag and watching this clown shit show and going,
- 8:56Speaker 1: you know, we'll just wait it out.
- 8:58Speaker 2: The more time the better. The more we can delay
- 9:01Speaker 2: any potential American attack, the better. We haven't given up
- 9:05Speaker 2: anything yet, so we'll just watch Trump do this. The
- 9:13Speaker 2: people around Trump, I mean, Rubio yesterday declared the war over.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Not clear what that is all about.
- 9:25Speaker 2: I guess he said offensive operations over. They could get restarted,
- 9:29Speaker 2: but they're over. I guess that's the Peace Congress in
- 9:31Speaker 2: terms of the sixty day rule. Again, hard to tell
- 9:35Speaker 2: what they are thinking right right now, it looks like
- 9:40Speaker 2: the mediators, the Pakistanis, who seem to have Trump's ear
- 9:44Speaker 2: and seem to be people are concerned about Israel manipulating
- 9:48Speaker 2: American farm policy. It seems to me like Trump is
- 9:51Speaker 2: beholden to the Pakistanis, which is bizarre to me because
- 9:55Speaker 2: he's bowled into them more than to the Saudis.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Uree ors, Israel are America's friends.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Pakistani's the enemies of America, you know, the enemies in India.
- 10:07Speaker 2: India is much more of a friend to the United
- 10:08Speaker 2: States than Pakistani Is. I don't you know, it's completely
- 10:13Speaker 2: incoherent what Trump is doing completely incoherent, and ever since that,
- 10:22Speaker 2: it's completely incoherent to people around him, who are constantly
- 10:24Speaker 2: trying to explain it to the media, but who have
- 10:26Speaker 2: no clue what the hell is going on anyway, media
- 10:29Speaker 2: is Pakistanis are pushing for a short term memo to
- 10:34Speaker 2: guide talks that might take months, that will have overwheund
- 10:42Speaker 2: uranium enrichment.
- 10:43Speaker 1: And sanctions relief.
- 10:44Speaker 2: And as I said, in the meantime, the US is
- 10:48Speaker 2: expected to release foesen assets and to send.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Billions and billions of dollars to Evon.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Now, Trump keeps saying, you know, US could resume bombing,
- 11:00Speaker 2: says memo will achieve nothing. None of the war aims
- 11:04Speaker 2: will be achieved, zero, zilch, nada that will be negotiated
- 11:07Speaker 2: in the future. In the meantime, the United States will
- 11:09Speaker 2: back off of all of its threats. And look, if
- 11:13Speaker 2: they views really you know, if there's a sense of
- 11:16Speaker 2: pause of several months, they're not gonna start bombing again.
- 11:19Speaker 1: I mean that would take weeks months to re.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Establish all the forces that are there.
- 11:25Speaker 1: It's just not happening.
- 11:30Speaker 2: It really does seem like Trump is motivated by this
- 11:32Speaker 2: trip to China and wants to go to China with
- 11:37Speaker 2: a deal, or at least with a memorandum that they
- 11:39Speaker 2: might be a deal in the future.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Will the deal include the opening.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Of the States of Homoes completely without Iwan charging a toll?
- 11:54Speaker 2: Very unlikely. Iwan indeed officially launched a website with a
- 12:00Speaker 2: new mechanism for governing maritime traffic through the Streates of Homoes.
- 12:05Speaker 2: They did this today early this morning. Vessels intended to
- 12:10Speaker 2: transfer the streets will receive an email from the Persian
- 12:13Speaker 2: Gulf Street Authority outlining the rules and regulations for passage,
- 12:17Speaker 2: including how much of a toll they have to pay.
- 12:21Speaker 2: Ships are required to adjust their operations according to the
- 12:25Speaker 2: framework and obtain a transit permit before crossing the Straits
- 12:28Speaker 2: of Homos. In other words, maritime navigation, the principle of
- 12:34Speaker 2: freedom of navigation.
- 12:35Speaker 1: In the seas has just ended.
- 12:39Speaker 2: And you know, unless Trump traverses this, this is a Basically,
- 12:46Speaker 2: this is a massive geopolitical loss for the United States
- 12:50Speaker 2: and for the world as a whole. There are lots
- 12:52Speaker 2: of choke points around the world that they are now
- 12:54Speaker 2: going to be questioned about where the countries can now
- 12:58Speaker 2: charge tolls, require permits and all of this stuff. So
- 13:03Speaker 2: payment of tolls in Iranian real nion dollars. Everything happens
- 13:11Speaker 2: within the Iranian banking systems that can be affected by sanctions.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Countries the cause that contributed to damages during the war
- 13:21Speaker 2: have to pay reparations before obtaining a permit. Countries that
- 13:27Speaker 2: sanctioned Iran a block its assets abroad are banned entirely.
- 13:33Speaker 2: All the documents use the name Persian Gulf. Right, it's Persian,
- 13:39Speaker 2: it's Uranian, it's theirs. Non compliance results in vessels seizure
- 13:45Speaker 2: and a find of twenty percent of cargo value. All
- 13:47Speaker 2: vessels might follow designated corridors and comply with Uranian enforces instructions.
- 13:53Speaker 2: Israeli flagged vessels and any ship going to or from
- 13:55Speaker 2: Israel ports are banned. In other words, Iran controls the
- 14:01Speaker 2: states of almost, sets the standards, sets the terms, and
- 14:06Speaker 2: from Uran's perspective, they do this forever. So not only
- 14:14Speaker 2: you have none of the not only, as Rubio announced,
- 14:18Speaker 2: the operation is over. None of the war objectives have
- 14:21Speaker 2: been achieved, no removal of in which uranium, no elimination forever, forever,
- 14:28Speaker 2: not for fifteen years forever of Uron's nuclear program, no
- 14:31Speaker 2: constraints on missile production, no end of funding for terrorists,
- 14:35Speaker 2: no regime change. But also, you know none of that
- 14:39Speaker 2: has been achieved. Wasn't handing them the states and foremost
- 14:43Speaker 2: and changing the geopolitics of you know, ships transitting of
- 14:49Speaker 2: trade forever because we're sanctioning debility controller. This is from
- 14:57Speaker 2: presidents and I know some of you still think he
- 14:59Speaker 2: is three D Chess or something like that. You know,
- 15:04Speaker 2: this is a president that is demanded an unconditional surrender.
- 15:07Speaker 2: On March sixth, said he would reopen the States of
- 15:11Speaker 2: Homos no matter what. Several times in March and April
- 15:17Speaker 2: demanded a whole to uranium in Richmond Forever, demanded the
- 15:23Speaker 2: removal Heidi rich humanium. Now, maybe that'll still happen, But
- 15:28Speaker 2: will the centerfuges be destroyed?
- 15:30Speaker 1: Will they still have a centerfuges. As long as they
- 15:32Speaker 1: have centerfuges, they can still en rich.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Uranium at any point in time to whatever level of
- 15:36Speaker 2: enrichment they wanted. He demanded in May that they shut
- 15:43Speaker 2: down the use of underground nuclear facilities.
- 15:47Speaker 1: He accepted a sixty day deadline for a deal that
- 15:53Speaker 1: was before there was before the war.
- 15:57Speaker 2: He's extended multiple short term multimatums.
- 16:02Speaker 1: They never both food anyway, God, I mean unconditional surrender. Yeah.
- 16:12Speaker 2: So again, what we have on the table looks like
- 16:14Speaker 2: is a fourteen point agreement to end the war. But
- 16:20Speaker 2: the Ranians are claiming that there is no such thing.
- 16:25Speaker 2: And you know, as part of this, it looks like
- 16:28Speaker 2: there will be this memorandum and the US agree to
- 16:31Speaker 2: live sanctioned and release Fozen assets.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Anyway, we'll see. We don't know the truth. Things we
- 16:37Speaker 1: don't know.
- 16:37Speaker 2: It's quite possible nobody knows what exactly is going on.
- 16:44Speaker 2: These veileys are panicking. They're really really worried. I mean,
- 16:47Speaker 2: they're mixed reports right run reports says that Israel is
- 16:54Speaker 2: not obviously he's not part of the negotiations, but Nitagneo
- 16:57Speaker 2: is constantly calling up people with administration to.
- 17:00Speaker 1: Find out what's going on.
- 17:02Speaker 2: He, you know, his role is really scared that the
- 17:08Speaker 2: the US is going to give in and concede in
- 17:12Speaker 2: ways that leave un sanctions lifted, the proxyes intact, and
- 17:17Speaker 2: the missile program untouched. Because if you look at the
- 17:20Speaker 2: fourteen points, if you look at what Trump is saying,
- 17:23Speaker 2: if you look at what people are speculating, he is
- 17:25Speaker 2: in agreement.
- 17:26Speaker 1: No mention of proxies, no mention of missiles.
- 17:30Speaker 2: Is O wants any deal to preserve its freedom to
- 17:33Speaker 2: strike regional threats unilaterally, and suppose the Natennia is calling regularly.
- 17:42Speaker 2: On the other hand, Nateneo is saying, of course he
- 17:45Speaker 2: has to say this. Oh, we're completely in syncle Trump.
- 17:49Speaker 2: I talked to Trump almost daily. Everything's coordinated. According to Nintenniello,
- 17:56Speaker 2: the shared objectives remain. Trump is going to insist in
- 17:59Speaker 2: removing of all all enriched uranium, dismantling of Iran's enrichment capacity,
- 18:04Speaker 2: and and they're ready for any kind of scenario if if,
- 18:10Speaker 2: if diplomacy fails. Uh, there is still an open question
- 18:16Speaker 2: which the story about Nataniello doesn't cover of the proxies
- 18:20Speaker 2: and the missiles, and is that part of any kind
- 18:22Speaker 2: of proposed deal.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Again, we don't know.
- 18:25Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody seems to really be providing any information on that.
- 18:30Speaker 2: On the good news side, the good news side, you
- 18:35Speaker 2: know ISIL supposedly has a cease fire.
- 18:39Speaker 1: With Rismola.
- 18:42Speaker 2: And and has committed not a bombing north of the Titania,
- 18:45Speaker 2: though it does periodically well. Just a few minutes ago,
- 18:47Speaker 2: about about an hour ago, the idea I carried out
- 18:51Speaker 2: a strike in Berout. This is the first time they've
- 18:54Speaker 2: carried out a strike in be Roots since the so
- 18:57Speaker 2: called ceasefire. These I can be rute targeted the command
- 19:01Speaker 2: of Risbella's Rudwan force, that's the kind of risbel A
- 19:05Speaker 2: special forces. And supposedly this was done in coordination with
- 19:14Speaker 2: the Americans, that is, the Americans gave it a green light.
- 19:17Speaker 2: Now I'm hoping, I'm hopeful that this will piss off
- 19:19Speaker 2: the Ranians, and the Ranians will so no, you know,
- 19:24Speaker 2: no to UH any deal with America. I mean, my
- 19:28Speaker 2: hope is not with Trump. I don't trust Trump one bit.
- 19:34Speaker 2: I think he is willing to betray America, willing to
- 19:36Speaker 2: betray Israel, willing to betray his own forces, willing to
- 19:41Speaker 2: betray his own.
- 19:42Speaker 1: I was gonna say principles, but he has not his.
- 19:44Speaker 2: Own claimed goals. My hope is that the Iranians are
- 19:50Speaker 2: so irrationally stupid that they keep saying no to Trump.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Where they put him in the corner where the only
- 19:56Speaker 1: option he has is to attack.
- 19:57Speaker 2: He compromises he compromises, but no, no compromise appeased as
- 20:01Speaker 2: the Iranians, and then he has.
- 20:02Speaker 1: No option but to attack him. That is my hope.
- 20:05Speaker 1: So far, so good.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Trump keeps backing down more, but the Ruanians keeps saying no.
- 20:10Speaker 1: No, no.
- 20:11Speaker 2: So let's hope the Ranians stay focused on their own
- 20:17Speaker 2: suicide and they say no to every deal Trump throws
- 20:20Speaker 2: their way, and as a consequence, there's no deal and
- 20:26Speaker 2: fighting resumes.
- 20:28Speaker 1: That is my hope.
- 20:30Speaker 2: I am hopeful for war in a sense that I'm
- 20:35Speaker 2: hopeful for continued destruction of the Iranian regime, a military
- 20:42Speaker 2: forced opening of the straits of farmers, and a continued
- 20:48Speaker 2: destruction of the infrastructure in Iran, the leadership infrastructure, the
- 20:52Speaker 2: killing of leaders, as many IRGC troops as possible, besiege troops.
- 20:57Speaker 1: And then again I'm hopeful for ultimately for a.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Uprising of the Iranian of the Iranian people, raising up
- 21:08Speaker 2: the Ranian people against this regime.
- 21:11Speaker 1: After it is so dramatically.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Weakened that that they have an easy shot at it.
- 21:18Speaker 1: That's my hope.
- 21:21Speaker 2: All right, Let's see, we talked yesterday about Putin and
- 21:28Speaker 2: and I just wanna, I wanna uh cover this again
- 21:32Speaker 2: and and uh and kind of uh.
- 21:35Speaker 1: Emphasize a few points.
- 21:37Speaker 2: There's a good article up ad actually editorial in the
- 21:40Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal today.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Or a couple of days ago.
- 21:43Speaker 2: It was a couple of days ago in the Wall
- 21:44Speaker 2: Street Journal by Walter Russell Meade from policy expert, about
- 21:50Speaker 2: about Putin. I mean, and and he makes this argument.
- 21:52Speaker 2: He says, look, not that long ago. Putin was considered
- 21:58Speaker 2: one of the most successful leaders in the world. He
- 22:02Speaker 2: seemed untouchable, and he was a guy who basically solidified
- 22:08Speaker 2: in control over Russia.
- 22:10Speaker 1: He had no challenges.
- 22:15Speaker 2: He had basically outwitted the West over and over and
- 22:18Speaker 2: over again. He humiliated them with the two thousand and
- 22:22Speaker 2: eight invasion of Georgia.
- 22:23Speaker 1: They did nothing.
- 22:24Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen seizure of Crimea and much of Donbas,
- 22:28Speaker 2: they did nothing.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Then, you know, he supported.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Asad in Syria and established a significant military presence in Syria,
- 22:38Speaker 2: which expanded in influence across the Middle East.
- 22:41Speaker 1: So he was a power broker in the Middle East.
- 22:44Speaker 2: And in spite of the use of Russian power to
- 22:47Speaker 2: sustain Asad, and in spite of Asad's strengths and use
- 22:53Speaker 2: of chemical weapons and so on, Obama did nothing.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Trump did nothing. Putin was solid in the Middle East.
- 23:02Speaker 2: He managed to defend Belarus's president Lukashenko against a number
- 23:07Speaker 2: of popular uprisings or protests. He then managed to displace
- 23:13Speaker 2: French and American presence and power across much of francis
- 23:20Speaker 2: former colonial empire in Africa. We talked about this yesterday, Sahal,
- 23:26Speaker 2: the South Sahara, places like Mali, and he was on
- 23:34Speaker 2: the way to making Russia great again. And then he
- 23:40Speaker 2: made a big mistake. He assumed, and this is straight
- 23:46Speaker 2: out of this op ed.
- 23:46Speaker 1: He assumed, and this is true. He assumed Ukraine.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Wasn't a real country. He assumed Ukraine wouldn't fight. He
- 23:53Speaker 2: assumed it would be easy to take them over, that
- 23:56Speaker 2: ultimately the Russian speaking Ukrainians would side with Russussia and
- 24:00Speaker 2: the rest wouldn't care enough to fight, that its government
- 24:05Speaker 2: was weak and hollow and would crumble. It turned out
- 24:10Speaker 2: completely wrong. The reality is that a significant number, an
- 24:16Speaker 2: overwhelming majority, of Ukrainians were willing to fight for their country,
- 24:22Speaker 2: that their leader, Zelenski turned out to be a spectacularly
- 24:26Speaker 2: gifted politician and a pretty good diplomat who rallied the
- 24:31Speaker 2: country and rallied the world around Ukrainian Ukraine's cause, and
- 24:35Speaker 2: as a consequence, Russia's achieved very little. A war which
- 24:41Speaker 2: was supposed to at most last a few weeks is
- 24:44Speaker 2: now going into what it's fourth you know, it's just
- 24:48Speaker 2: into its fifth year. Russia is completely stalled. There is
- 24:53Speaker 2: a stale, mad Russian army has no momentum. Even if
- 24:56Speaker 2: it gains momentum, its momentum is so slow it will
- 25:00Speaker 2: go nowhere. One point three to one point five Russians
- 25:05Speaker 2: have either been killed or significantly injured during this crisis.
- 25:09Speaker 1: In the meantime, one point five of Russia's most.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Productive individuals have left the country in order not to
- 25:15Speaker 2: be part of this war effort. And you know, it's
- 25:21Speaker 2: so bad that Ukraine is bombing Russian cities a thousand
- 25:27Speaker 2: miles inland, and Putin's grip and power and you know,
- 25:36Speaker 2: and the idea of Russian greatness is slip sliding away.
- 25:42Speaker 2: And of course this is not only happening in Ukraine.
- 25:46Speaker 2: Victor Auban, who was Putin's number one ally in Russia,
- 25:52Speaker 2: is somebody who constantly advocated for Russia's position and in
- 25:57Speaker 2: support of Russia in Europe, has lost a major election
- 26:03Speaker 2: and he lost to somebody who is.
- 26:04Speaker 1: An ally of the EU. The EU right now.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Is actually mounting an investigation into all the Russian dark
- 26:14Speaker 2: money that flowed through Hungary, flowed through Oban's administration, into
- 26:19Speaker 2: European businesses and political silkas, and influenced politics in Europe.
- 26:25Speaker 2: And the reality is that Europe has divided it as
- 26:29Speaker 2: hateful and as inefficient and ineffective as they are. Have
- 26:32Speaker 2: rallied around Ukraine, and in spite of the United States
- 26:35Speaker 2: backing off of Ukraine and betraying Ukraine, the Europeans have
- 26:40Speaker 2: stepped up shockingly.
- 26:42Speaker 1: Nobody expected that, certainly not Russia. But it doesn't end there.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Putin's influence.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Russia's influence across the world is fading.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Look at Armenia and Azerbaijan.
- 26:58Speaker 2: Armenia was a Russian ally, Russia committed to Armenian security,
- 27:04Speaker 2: and yet in a war a couple of years ago,
- 27:07Speaker 2: as a Bijan took territory from Armenia territory, they claimed
- 27:10Speaker 2: it was theirs and Russia did nothing. So Armenia is
- 27:15Speaker 2: now fully cooperating with the West, has basically abandoned its
- 27:19Speaker 2: commitment around Russia and both it and as a Rajian
- 27:24Speaker 2: are both integrating into the West. Some Central Asian republics
- 27:32Speaker 2: which Russia dominated. These are former former Soviet Union republics.
- 27:40Speaker 1: Now have closer ties to China than to Russia.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Indeed, China is much more likely to dominate Central Asia
- 27:48Speaker 2: than Russia is in the future. China is, relatively speaking,
- 27:52Speaker 2: a growing power as Russia is shrinking. There's a bunch
- 27:57Speaker 2: of rail a bunch of pipelines being planned from Central
- 28:00Speaker 2: Asia oil and gas fields to Europe bypassing Russia all together.
- 28:08Speaker 2: If you go to the Middle East, well, we know
- 28:11Speaker 2: what happened to Basha La Lasa. He's somewhere in Moscow,
- 28:17Speaker 2: but he's lost power. Russia has lost all the influence
- 28:22Speaker 2: in Syria and has basically had to retreat from the
- 28:28Speaker 2: Middle East completely. You've got a war going on the
- 28:31Speaker 2: Middle East and Russia has no impact and no influence on.
- 28:36Speaker 1: You know. In terms of Africa, we talked about this yesterday.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Russia has been humiliated by ISIS and Arkaeda in Mali,
- 28:44Speaker 2: and African governments are rethinking they reliance.
- 28:48Speaker 1: On Russian troops to help them survive.
- 28:55Speaker 2: Russia is in decline, Russian economy is in Tata's it's
- 29:00Speaker 2: quality of life, stand of living has been declining since
- 29:02Speaker 2: the war begun, but it's getting worse and worse now.
- 29:05Speaker 1: It can't be evaded. Inflation is high, interest rates are
- 29:08Speaker 1: through the roof, the rubul is plummeted.
- 29:13Speaker 2: You know, the European population, the white population of Russia
- 29:18Speaker 2: is actually shrinking as birth rates and emigration out of
- 29:22Speaker 2: Russia are taking a toll. Russians do not have babies.
- 29:26Speaker 2: But who does have babies? The Muslims in Russia, you know.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Tukakossa might claim that Russia is the last white Christian nation,
- 29:35Speaker 2: but Russia is faster on the path to being dominated
- 29:39Speaker 2: by Muslims than there's any country in Europe, and the
- 29:47Speaker 2: Russian republics many of the Muslim hotbeds of activism towards
- 29:55Speaker 2: potentially one day spitting splitting off from Russia. Putin has
- 30:03Speaker 2: destroyed whatever Russia had is gone. This Ukraine War turned
- 30:08Speaker 2: out to be an unbelievable, unbelievably bad decision.
- 30:13Speaker 1: But beyond that, all of his bets, as is.
- 30:16Speaker 2: True of most of Theiritarians, most of his bets have
- 30:19Speaker 2: gone bad.
- 30:21Speaker 1: All of his actions have turned negative.
- 30:26Speaker 2: So it makes sense that Putin is tightening security, spending
- 30:32Speaker 2: more time in underground bunkers, afraid to go outside, and
- 30:37Speaker 2: afraid of an internal coup.
- 30:42Speaker 1: You know, Russia was always in decline.
- 30:47Speaker 2: What Putin has managed to do is accelerate that decline significantly.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Now you can see that on what's going on right now,
- 30:55Speaker 2: you can see the initiative in this war shifted significantly
- 30:59Speaker 2: to Ukraine.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Russia's wants to have the.
- 31:02Speaker 2: May ninth parade without tanks, without big military exhibit for
- 31:09Speaker 2: the first time since since the victory you know, over
- 31:15Speaker 2: the Nazison World War two way scaled back parade. But
- 31:21Speaker 2: to do that, he has basically declared a cease fire
- 31:25Speaker 2: on that day, in the day before May eighth and
- 31:28Speaker 2: May ninth. Zelensky responded it said, if you're gonna want
- 31:34Speaker 2: to cease fire, let's start it now.
- 31:39Speaker 1: Russia responded to Zelensky's.
- 31:42Speaker 2: Cease fire proposal, plus the fact that Ukraine has been
- 31:47Speaker 2: has launched drones and attacked Moscow a few days ago
- 31:51Speaker 2: with a massive drone attack and bombing attack yesterday that
- 31:57Speaker 2: killed at least twenty seven people, injured about seventy civilians,
- 32:00Speaker 2: basically mainly in the city whose name I cannot pronounce
- 32:05Speaker 2: in the south of Ukraine, southeast of Ukraine. Uh, you know,
- 32:13Speaker 2: basically targeting civilian, civilian buildings. This is on the day
- 32:19Speaker 2: that Zelensky asked for cease fire, the day that Putin asked.
- 32:23Speaker 1: For cease fire for May eight to ninth. Ah, you know.
- 32:29Speaker 2: And of course, what is what is the chance of
- 32:34Speaker 2: Zelensky is now going to agree to a to a
- 32:37Speaker 2: cease fire The Defence ministry, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry has
- 32:41Speaker 2: said Russia violated the ceasefire regime and carried out a
- 32:45Speaker 2: series of attacks on Ukraine. These actions by aggressa by
- 32:48Speaker 2: the aggressor nullify the cease fire for May ninth announced
- 32:52Speaker 2: by Putin.
- 32:54Speaker 1: So Ukraine is basically saying we might bomb off while
- 33:00Speaker 1: you're having your parade. In the meantime, Moscow.
- 33:05Speaker 2: Is created a call something called a ring of fear,
- 33:10Speaker 2: like they brought in massive numbers of air defense systems
- 33:14Speaker 2: from all over Russia to surround Moscow to defend the parade.
- 33:21Speaker 1: Now, if in spite of all that.
- 33:25Speaker 2: The Ukrainians can still get in a drone and cause damage,
- 33:30Speaker 2: that'll be a massive, massive repudiation of a Putin In
- 33:36Speaker 2: Russian's a.
- 33:37Speaker 1: Defense system of everything. But what this has also.
- 33:40Speaker 2: Done is basically leave the rest of Russia undefended. I
- 33:45Speaker 2: mean right now, because all the air defense systems seem
- 33:48Speaker 2: to be according to some reports, at least around Moscow.
- 33:52Speaker 2: The rest of Russia is defenseless, and you could expect
- 33:56Speaker 2: the Ukrainians to take full advantage of that.
- 33:58Speaker 1: They have their new Kusma, they have their drones.
- 34:03Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be really interesting to see
- 34:05Speaker 2: what the Ukrainians tease to target over the next few.
- 34:08Speaker 1: Days, including on May ninth.
- 34:10Speaker 2: I would expect the Ukrainians to do something symbolic, to
- 34:14Speaker 2: do something as the entire world.
- 34:16Speaker 1: Is watching and all of Russia is watching.
- 34:22Speaker 2: I think there's some Russians that would celebrate Ukrainians attacking
- 34:26Speaker 2: Moscow because I think a lot of Russians have the
- 34:29Speaker 2: sense that people in Moscow, whose kids are not fighting
- 34:33Speaker 2: on the front line, I'm not feeling this war, whereas
- 34:36Speaker 2: the rest of the country is economically and because it's
- 34:40Speaker 2: their people who are sent to the front, not the
- 34:43Speaker 2: elites in Moscow, in Saint Petersburg. And I think a
- 34:46Speaker 2: lot of Russians would would like the Moscovites to feel
- 34:51Speaker 2: a little bit about what the war is like. Let
- 34:59Speaker 2: me just see what what's going on?
- 35:03Speaker 1: Right?
- 35:04Speaker 2: Just a reminder everybody to ask questions do stickers and
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- 35:38Speaker 1: Stickers are good too, without a question. All right, yesterday
- 35:41Speaker 1: there were.
- 35:42Speaker 2: Elections in Indiana, Ohio, and Michigan. Indiana had state Senate elections,
- 35:49Speaker 2: so local elections. The reason Indiana stands out is because
- 35:53Speaker 2: in Indiana, you remember Indiana, Trump wanted Indiana to Jerrymanda
- 36:00Speaker 2: and to secure I think one additional one additional House
- 36:09Speaker 2: seat for Republicans.
- 36:10Speaker 1: They wanted.
- 36:12Speaker 2: Trump wanted the Indiana legislature to approve a jurymandering map
- 36:16Speaker 2: that would give they would give the Republicans one at
- 36:22Speaker 2: least one more seat, and Indiana Republicans shockingly resisted and said, no,
- 36:29Speaker 2: I mean this is we don't do this in other
- 36:32Speaker 2: insensus years. It's wrong, it is not the way we
- 36:36Speaker 2: do politics, and they refused. Trump threatened to back candidates
- 36:44Speaker 2: in primaries to replace the senators who voted against him,
- 36:50Speaker 2: and he did, and yesterday those elections were held, and
- 36:54Speaker 2: indeed Trump's candidates mostly won. I think of the of
- 36:59Speaker 2: the seven five of the president's candidates one these are
- 37:05Speaker 2: candidates that are going to.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Do whatever Trump says.
- 37:11Speaker 2: What this shows, more than anything is that Trump still
- 37:14Speaker 2: controls the Republican Party. At least he controls the people
- 37:20Speaker 2: who vote in primaries, who votes in primaries, the committed,
- 37:25Speaker 2: the activists, MAGA, and Trump still controls them. When he
- 37:30Speaker 2: endorses a candidate, that candidate wins. So Trump still has
- 37:35Speaker 2: a grip, a solid grip, in spite of all all
- 37:38Speaker 2: the criticism, in in spite of the fact that he
- 37:41Speaker 2: is at this point, according to Poe's, the most unpopular
- 37:44Speaker 2: president ever, significantly more unpopular than he was in the
- 37:47Speaker 2: first term. Uh, he actually gets his people elected in
- 37:55Speaker 2: Republican primaries, which is you know, shocking, disappointing, and in
- 38:03Speaker 2: a sense suicide for the Republican Party. If indeed Trump
- 38:06Speaker 2: is this unpopular, his candidates in the future are going
- 38:11Speaker 2: to be unpopular, and you know, the Republicans are likely
- 38:15Speaker 2: to lose more rather than less. In Michigan, there was
- 38:20Speaker 2: again a state Senate seat in a bellweather district that
- 38:26Speaker 2: had a Democrat running against a Republican.
- 38:30Speaker 1: Uh.
- 38:31Speaker 2: And this was considered again a kind of a bellwether,
- 38:34Speaker 2: kind of a predictive of how things are shaping up.
- 38:38Speaker 2: And in in this big swing state Michigan, a the
- 38:51Speaker 2: Democrat won went easily against a Republican that was backed
- 38:56Speaker 2: by Trump. So we actually didn't I didn't do it comfortably.
- 39:04Speaker 1: It was a close. It was close, but.
- 39:10Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, you know this is a sorry,
- 39:12Speaker 2: this is a district in which Harris beat Trump by
- 39:14Speaker 2: one point and uh, and the Democrat beat the Republican.
- 39:20Speaker 1: By a significant margin, by a significant margin.
- 39:24Speaker 2: Now it's turned out that in all the special elections
- 39:28Speaker 2: out there this season the last six months, Democrats are
- 39:32Speaker 2: won all of them. Anyway, it was close, Democrats are won,
- 39:36Speaker 2: and and people are suggesting that is reflective of what's
- 39:39Speaker 2: gonna happen in the miditerm elections. And finally, in Ohio,
- 39:44Speaker 2: what happened yesterday was was predictable.
- 39:46Speaker 1: That is uh. Uh.
- 39:47Speaker 2: The the the Republican who was expected to w w
- 39:49Speaker 2: to win Vivic and the Democrat who was expected to win,
- 39:54Speaker 2: uh Amy Acton. I think uh they both won their primaries.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Now it's going to be battle between Ramaswami Vivic and
- 40:03Speaker 2: Amy Acting. And this is Ohio is a solidly and
- 40:08Speaker 2: ever moving in that direction, Republican majority state.
- 40:13Speaker 1: So you would think that.
- 40:15Speaker 2: VIVID would win this easily, but that is indeed not
- 40:19Speaker 2: the case. That is right now polls are showing a
- 40:21Speaker 2: pretty even match and actually Amy Acting a little ahead.
- 40:26Speaker 2: And I think the reason for that is the fact
- 40:28Speaker 2: that there are a lot of conservative Republicans who won't
- 40:31Speaker 2: vote for Vivic, So it's likely Republicans turnout will be low.
- 40:36Speaker 2: He's not going to be able to get as many
- 40:38Speaker 2: Republicans to vote for him.
- 40:39Speaker 1: You know, lots of reasons for that. One.
- 40:41Speaker 2: He's Indian, and Republicans are right now pretty anti Indian, particularly.
- 40:49Speaker 1: The out there. He is pro tech, pro AI, pro
- 40:56Speaker 1: data centers. There's a bunch of Republican conservatives out.
- 41:01Speaker 2: There who hate AI and and and and and don't
- 41:04Speaker 2: want any data centers built, and they might not vote
- 41:07Speaker 2: for Vivic.
- 41:09Speaker 1: Vivic supports Israel. There's a good chance.
- 41:14Speaker 2: There's a significant number of Republicans who don't and won't
- 41:16Speaker 2: vote for him. As a consequence, Vivic is generally particularly
- 41:21Speaker 2: running for Ohio pro markets, free markets. There's a significant
- 41:26Speaker 2: number of Republicans who are not and they won't vote it.
- 41:31Speaker 2: So it's likely that Democrats will all show up and
- 41:35Speaker 2: Republicans will not, and that'll make it a very close race.
- 41:39Speaker 2: So that's one to watch in November. I hope Vivic wins.
- 41:43Speaker 2: He's by father better and and actually in his campaign
- 41:47Speaker 2: for the governor of Ohio he's been quite good. And
- 41:50Speaker 2: his his arguments against heritage Americans and his uh, you know,
- 41:55Speaker 2: arguments for in favor of of of of a better
- 41:59Speaker 2: culture and you know, in favor of legal immigration have
- 42:03Speaker 2: been really good and refreshing for Republicans.
- 42:06Speaker 1: So I hope, I hope he wins. But again, it's
- 42:10Speaker 1: gonna be close in the state that shouldn't be close
- 42:12Speaker 1: at all. Shouldn't be close at all, all Right, we.
- 42:22Speaker 2: Talked again about this story as well, Ken Griffith and Mamdani.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Remember Mamdanni did the video standing in front of Ken
- 42:28Speaker 2: Griffith's two hundred and thirty eight million dollar condo saying
- 42:32Speaker 2: since people who don't live in their condos full time
- 42:36Speaker 2: or a significant amount of time in New York, we're
- 42:38Speaker 2: gonna have a special tax on them and take their money.
- 42:41Speaker 1: And you know, pretty anti rich message.
- 42:44Speaker 2: And sit at all the company that Griffith runs, I
- 42:48Speaker 2: had a CFO I think, distributed an email basically articulating
- 42:53Speaker 2: all the ways and Ken Giffith helps the state of
- 42:56Speaker 2: the City of New York and then threatening to abandon
- 42:59Speaker 2: the city, that is, not to build a building that
- 43:01Speaker 2: they that they're planning to build.
- 43:03Speaker 1: In New York City.
- 43:06Speaker 2: Anyway, Griffins, you know, double double up on that. He
- 43:11Speaker 2: was at the Milken Conference in Los Angeles. Uh, and
- 43:15Speaker 2: he he said things. You know, he said, Uh, Mamdani's
- 43:19Speaker 2: making it very clear New York doesn't wan doesn't welcome success.
- 43:25Speaker 2: And uh, you know he he called the video that
- 43:29Speaker 2: Mamdani did creepy and weird.
- 43:32Speaker 1: Uh.
- 43:32Speaker 2: And the thought that the fact that Mam Donnie did
- 43:35Speaker 2: this video not that far from where the CEO of
- 43:38Speaker 2: United Healthcare was fatally shot. Uh, kind of fightening and
- 43:44Speaker 2: his whole suggestion about the wealthy and so on.
- 43:47Speaker 1: Uh.
- 43:49Speaker 2: He also talked about the fact that there's more and
- 43:52Speaker 2: more advocacy in a sense for violence and and uh
- 43:55Speaker 2: and uh extremism as he called it, and a fighting
- 43:59Speaker 2: that ynamic, which he said, for example, led to the
- 44:02Speaker 2: fact that there's been three attempts to assassinate Donald Trump,
- 44:08Speaker 2: you know, so he he's going afterwards, and then he said, look,
- 44:13Speaker 2: we're still having internal discussions inside. Said it all but
- 44:17Speaker 2: whether we're going to build, whether we're going to build
- 44:20Speaker 2: in New York. He added, we went to Miami and
- 44:24Speaker 2: revised a building plan to make a bigger office building.
- 44:28Speaker 2: He's constructing a fifty four story tower in Florida. He said,
- 44:34Speaker 2: maybe we'll just double up in Miami and not building
- 44:37Speaker 2: New York. So he's trying to put pressure on Mamdani.
- 44:42Speaker 2: The reality is, though it's almost certainly that he will
- 44:46Speaker 2: build in New York. They've already broken ground on the
- 44:50Speaker 2: site of where they're building, and you know, he has
- 44:56Speaker 2: committed a significant amount of his money to the building,
- 44:59Speaker 2: four hundred million dollar loan to the project. They've teamed
- 45:03Speaker 2: up with a realty trust, and they expect Senator expects
- 45:09Speaker 2: to be the anchor tenant in this building, taking up
- 45:13Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty thousand square feet.
- 45:15Speaker 1: This is on three hundred and fifty Park Avenue, so
- 45:18Speaker 1: prime Manhattan real estate.
- 45:21Speaker 2: So you know we will see demolition, as I said,
- 45:26Speaker 2: has already started.
- 45:28Speaker 1: They are committed. But he's threatening and Mumdanie.
- 45:34Speaker 2: Now, as I said last time, I wish he took
- 45:37Speaker 2: a more assertive stance. I wish he spent more time
- 45:40Speaker 2: defending his right to his own money, defending his right
- 45:44Speaker 2: to his property lamb blasting Mucdannie's confiscation of his money
- 45:51Speaker 2: and you know, with his tax on his condo, instead
- 45:54Speaker 2: of just articulating his utilitarian benefits the city of New York.
- 45:58Speaker 2: I'm glad he's at least fighting back, but he needs
- 46:02Speaker 2: better tools or one of the things he's doing.
- 46:04Speaker 1: One of the things he said at the Milking conference.
- 46:06Speaker 2: He's said he's willing to buy every high school student
- 46:09Speaker 2: in New York City a copy of the book Animal
- 46:12Speaker 2: Farm And if I'm done, he will send him the
- 46:15Speaker 2: address of all the schools.
- 46:16Speaker 1: He will have those books shipped to all the schools.
- 46:19Speaker 2: The Animal Farmer is, of course an anti Stalinist book.
- 46:23Speaker 2: It's an anti communist Stalinist book written by Joe Joewell.
- 46:29Speaker 1: But here's the.
- 46:30Speaker 2: Thing, Ken Griffin, that you need to realize who is
- 46:38Speaker 2: the author of Animal Farm?
- 46:43Speaker 1: What were his politics? What was the politics of Joe Joewell?
- 46:49Speaker 1: Oh was a socialist?
- 46:52Speaker 2: So yeah, he was anti stalinism, he was on anti
- 46:59Speaker 2: dictatorship in a thoritarianism. But he was definitely a socialist
- 47:04Speaker 2: and definitely a democratic socialist, the kind Mumdanni claims he is.
- 47:11Speaker 2: So I'm not sure you're fighting, Mumdanni by promoting Joe Jowell.
- 47:23Speaker 2: If you want the kids in the schools to actually
- 47:27Speaker 2: learn an alternative set of ideas, how about senning them
- 47:30Speaker 2: anthem or if you want a small book or atle
- 47:32Speaker 2: shrugged that would make much stronger statement, much stronger statement.
- 47:42Speaker 2: All right, um, Finally, this morning it was announced that
- 47:49Speaker 2: Ted Turner. Ted Turner died at the age of eighty seven.
- 47:56Speaker 2: I think a few years ago was announced that he
- 47:58Speaker 2: had a form of dementia and so he he finally.
- 48:04Speaker 1: Succumbed to it.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Turner was was quite a character, a swash buckling media titan.
- 48:14Speaker 2: The Wall Street Jonal describes him as and I think
- 48:17Speaker 2: that's uh, that's quite reasonable. He grew up, you know,
- 48:22Speaker 2: lower middle class. I think his his father owned a
- 48:24Speaker 2: billboard business that was losing money and and and unsuccessful.
- 48:30Speaker 2: His father actually committed suicide. Uh and uh and uh
- 48:36Speaker 2: you know uh. Ted Turner inherited the business from him
- 48:39Speaker 2: when his father committed suicide, turned it around, made the
- 48:44Speaker 2: company profitable. He then used it as a platform to
- 48:49Speaker 2: buy a local small TV station, which again was losing money.
- 48:57Speaker 2: He within two years made it profitable, launched it ultimately
- 49:02Speaker 2: is WTBS as a as a major cable and satellite station.
- 49:11Speaker 2: Uh you know, made it hugely successful, landed up being
- 49:18Speaker 2: a real pioneer when it came to cable cable TV.
- 49:22Speaker 2: Launched invented the the the real invented the idea really globally,
- 49:28Speaker 2: He came up with the idea of twenty four our
- 49:30Speaker 2: News and launched CNN.
- 49:34Speaker 1: And made it.
- 49:35Speaker 2: Into a massive success to be emulated by Fox and
- 49:39Speaker 2: by Sky and by many many many others all around
- 49:43Speaker 2: the world. He ultimately turned his Turner Broadcasting Systems TBS
- 49:51Speaker 2: into a television movie giant.
- 49:57Speaker 1: He uh he uh.
- 49:59Speaker 2: Ultimately, he sold it in nineteen ninety five to Time
- 50:01Speaker 2: Warner got out.
- 50:06Speaker 1: You know that sold to AOL.
- 50:09Speaker 2: That was not good because once it merged with AOL,
- 50:15Speaker 2: the stock plummeted by eighty percent say his networth decline significantly.
- 50:22Speaker 2: He was constantly fights with people like Rupert Murdoch some
- 50:27Speaker 2: the Redstone about who would dominate cable tv. But collectively
- 50:33Speaker 2: as a group in that competition, in those fights, right fights,
- 50:39Speaker 2: not in the fifth not in the fourth sense, but
- 50:41Speaker 2: in the business sense.
- 50:44Speaker 1: They they made cable TV what it is.
- 50:49Speaker 2: They heavily invested, They created new channels, They created the
- 50:52Speaker 2: idea of consumer subscriptions.
- 50:54Speaker 1: They changed the world, changed the world. And Ted.
- 51:01Speaker 2: Ten despite being a massive rival of Murdoch, both philosophically,
- 51:06Speaker 2: politically and business wise and I think personalities, they almost
- 51:10Speaker 2: got into fit fight fist fights a couple of times.
- 51:13Speaker 2: I mean, Murdoch said on Wednesday his impact was as
- 51:18Speaker 2: a trial blazer has left an inalible mark on our
- 51:21Speaker 2: cultural landscape. He was a great American and friend.
- 51:26Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, he.
- 51:28Speaker 2: Was a really promotive satellite technology and cable technology.
- 51:35Speaker 1: And you know, the other.
- 51:37Speaker 2: Network he was responsible was TNT that still exists out
- 51:41Speaker 2: there is really an alternative to the Big three, and
- 51:43Speaker 2: of course the big one was CNN, and CNN really
- 51:48Speaker 2: became big.
- 51:49Speaker 1: Because of the first I Rock War and the OJ Simpson.
- 51:52Speaker 2: Trial where they had live coverage, you know, twenty four
- 51:56Speaker 2: to seven basically of those events. Now, Turner was also
- 52:02Speaker 2: a big time philanthropist. He was quite a lefty. Ultimately,
- 52:06Speaker 2: he was a big time philanthropist. He gave a remember
- 52:09Speaker 2: the day he did this, He gave a billion dollars,
- 52:12Speaker 2: which at the time was unheard of as a gift
- 52:16Speaker 2: to a United Nations foundation.
- 52:19Speaker 1: Which is should I thought was just horrific.
- 52:22Speaker 2: And horrible to give money to anything controlled by the
- 52:25Speaker 2: United Nations, but it kind of fit into kind of
- 52:29Speaker 2: his view of the world.
- 52:30Speaker 1: He was also a big time environmentalist.
- 52:33Speaker 2: He became the largest private owner of land in the
- 52:36Speaker 2: United States for quite a while. He also owned a
- 52:40Speaker 2: lot of land in Argentina. He on this land, He
- 52:45Speaker 2: many of this land. Much of this land he grew bison.
- 52:49Speaker 2: He actually has a restaurant chain that sells bison burgers
- 52:55Speaker 2: all the bison grown on his land. He was a
- 53:00Speaker 2: must be married to leftist icon Jane Fonda, and you
- 53:09Speaker 2: know so yes, his leftism included extended into his love life.
- 53:18Speaker 2: He considered a presidential run in nineteen nineties while he
- 53:22Speaker 2: was married to Jane Fonda.
- 53:23Speaker 1: But backed off in the end. In the end of
- 53:26Speaker 1: that anyway.
- 53:28Speaker 2: Ted Turner an American entrepreneur, incredible success story. He also,
- 53:31Speaker 2: by the way, was a sportsman. He won the He
- 53:35Speaker 2: was an incredible yachtsman.
- 53:38Speaker 1: You know, he won the.
- 53:38Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy four America's Cup. Well not the nineteen seventy four,
- 53:42Speaker 2: he won in nineteen seventy seven. He won the Cup
- 53:45Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy seven. He said, I ran my company
- 53:50Speaker 2: the same way I ran my boat. I found the
- 53:52Speaker 2: best people I could to run our business while I
- 53:55Speaker 2: stepped back to keep an eye on an overwall strategy
- 53:58Speaker 2: and what our next move should be.
- 54:01Speaker 1: So a real entrepreneur.
- 54:03Speaker 2: You disagree with him on philanthropy, disagree with him politically, ideologically,
- 54:09Speaker 2: but you can't you can't argue with his unbelievable success,
- 54:14Speaker 2: his innovation, his entrepreneurial spirit. And these are kind of
- 54:19Speaker 2: people who built this country and have immense respect for
- 54:23Speaker 2: him as a businessman. And he you know, he proved,
- 54:28Speaker 2: he proved unbelievably able when it came when it came
- 54:31Speaker 2: to that.
- 54:31Speaker 1: So yep, all right, that, my friends, is the news
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- 58:59Speaker 2: thank you for the sticker appreciated Michael says, is that
- 59:05Speaker 2: deliberate focusing of consciousness a causeless effect. What is the
- 59:11Speaker 2: meaning of self initiated volition, cognition, cognitive act in which
- 59:15Speaker 2: the individual serves as the direct cause. Well, I mean,
- 59:19Speaker 2: it can't be causeless. There's no such thing as a
- 59:22Speaker 2: causeless action. But you have to understand what cause means.
- 59:28Speaker 2: Causality is about an object or entity, an entity acting
- 59:34Speaker 2: according to its nature. Causality is an entity acting according
- 59:39Speaker 2: to its nature. Causality is not about you know, one
- 59:46Speaker 2: thing making the other thing do something.
- 59:48Speaker 1: That's not the cause.
- 59:50Speaker 2: The fundamental cause, the essence of the cause is the
- 59:53Speaker 2: nature of the object, and if it's acted on, it
- 59:58Speaker 2: acts in response to.
- 59:59Speaker 1: That action according to its nature. That's the cause.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: So in a case of volition, human consciousness is acting
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: according to its nation.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: It is you are causing it. That is the cause.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: Is you know, it's a there are cause, you know
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: it's it's it's you self initiating. There is no event
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: that comes before you initiating, and that's your nature as
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: a human being.
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: That's what volition, that's what we worll means.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: It's it's not causeless, it's caused by the nature of
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: your consciousness.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: It's caused by the nature.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: Of you as a as a as this particular type
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: of being.
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: You know. So this is uh.
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: This is a view of causality that is different than
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: the human Billiard Boil view of causality. Michael, Democrats in
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: a way better for big tech in California? Do religious
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: conservatives view tech as godless and sinful? Are Democrats in
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: general more pragmatic with their statism and Republicans? I don't know,
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: I mean depends which Republicans.
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: I mean.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: Trump is pretty pragmatic with his view about these things.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: I don't think he's particularly guided by religion about this.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: He's guided bioll kinds of other bs like make America
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: Healthy Again is not guided by religion. But it's not
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: guided by a science either. It's guided by somebody's emotions
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: out there. I don't know that you can say Democrats
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: are better Democrats are worse for big tech. It depends
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: on the contacts, It depends on the tech, it depends
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: on the year, depends on the particular leader, it depends on.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: What's going on.
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: Democrats are awful for big tech and tech generally, and
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: Republicans are awful for tech. Generally, I think Democrats are
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: better on biotech because biotech sometimes infringes on things that
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: Republicans get upset about visa VI religion. But in terms
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: of right now, for example, big data centers for AI,
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: both Democrats and Republicans against it.
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: The Democratic party machine in California realizes that their life
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: depends on tech, and therefore they have to be lenient
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: with tech. Tech is the primary lobbyist in San Cramento,
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: and I think if Republicans were in Pounder in California,
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: they would do the same thing. But I wouldn't say
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: one is better than the other. I think both are
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: generally bad, and both are.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: Heavily influenced by by.
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: The tech companies because the tech companies dominate the state.
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: The difference is that man can think and alter his
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: belief Man creates a big portion of his existence.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: The difference with what is another part of this questions
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: doesn't look.
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: Like animal beliefs are conditioned entirely on what happens to them.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: Yes, animals are pre programmed.
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: Animals are deterministic beings, very complex in that determinism. They're
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: very complex responses. But they, as far as we know
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: don't have any sense of free will, any kind of volition.
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: They are determined by their genes.
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: The respond to sudden stimulating a sudden way.
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: Human beings have their ability to shape their responses. They
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: have the ability to choose to, you know, engage or
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: not engage their faculty of.
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: Awareness. Animals can't shut it down.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: They can't choose to evade. They can't choose to commit suicide.
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: They can't choose not to do with their genetic makeup
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: demands that they do.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: Michael says, just.
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: When I walk out from my objectivist bubble and think
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: objectivism is gaining traction in the culture out there, I
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: enter political chatter room and realize we are so far
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: from our goals. Yeah, I mean, the real world out
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: there is pretty discouraging. The reality is that, yes, we're far, far,
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: far from our goal. And when you start thinking about
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: the three hundred and fifty million people in America, I
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: don't know how many of them vote, But I don't
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: know one hundred and fifty two hundred million people vote,
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: how many objectivists, so, how many have influenced by objectives
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: to how many are leaning towards objectivism?
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: Very very few?
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a long, long, multi decade still battle
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: yet to be to be fought.
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: Harrison.
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: Modern ai is are simulated brains. It's tough to know
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: how to make them safe. And I guess this continues
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: as the next question. Since there's no so much we
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: don't know about how our real brains work. We also
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: don't know much about how these simulated brains in Jaws work.
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: So I don't agree that modern AI is a simulated
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: brain at all.
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think it functions anything
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: like a brain.
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: You know, for one, the main you know, the most
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: important thing that the big difference between them, and the
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: many big differences, but maybe not the biggest difference, but
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: the most obvious difference between them, is that the human
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: brain is connected to reality. The human brain actually gets inputs,
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: not from stuff other people, from stuff people right, not
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: from stuff people say, but from actual reality.
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: I sitting here and I can see a camera.
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: I can see a computer, I can see a bottle
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: of water, and I can hold those as images.
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: I mean, in that sense, a dog's brain.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: Is more sophisticated than AI, because a dog's brain can
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: actually has consciousness, it's actually aware of its environment and
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: actually can hold its environment, can actually experience its environment
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: as pleasure and pain, just like human as human beings do.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: Computer doesn't have any of that. It doesn't have any
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: sensory inputs, So it's not a brain in a job. Indeed,
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: a brain in a job would be meaningless. A brain
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: detached from sensory information is not a brain. It can
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: be conscious. The only thing you can be conscious of
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: is the world, and then you can integrate the information
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: you will see from the world into abstractions and you
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: can manipulate those distractions and write essays and write documents,
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: and what guides you doing it as a human being
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: is your values, your awareness, your consciousness, your choices.
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: But AI has none of those, and AI.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: Construct sentences based on some statistical algorithm. That's not how
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: a brain works at all. So no, I really don't
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: accept the idea that AI is a brain in a
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: vat or a brain in a jar, or a simulation
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: of a brain. It's a simulation of stuffed people have
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: written online. It's a simulation of the sentence structure. The
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: idea is as projected by words written in essays, in books,
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: in documents, and it's reflecting back what already exists online.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: It's just reorganizing it in a way that looks like thinking,
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: but it's not. I think Harrison continues here, So it's
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: not just a problem of getting good thinkers involved. We
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: don't know enough about how AI works yet to know
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: the difference between handling it safely or not, or what
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: the dangers even are. For now, I just be polite
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: to the brains in the cloud, just in case. We'll
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: have to learn what the dangers are as we go.
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: As we're going now, there's some truth to that that
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: we don't completely understand how it works, but we do
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: understand how it works in a real meaningful way. That is,
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: somebody is programmed the algorithm. The algorithm ultimately dictates how
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: it works. The algorithm might be super complex, and it
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: might douce things that might supprise use the people who
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: design the algorithm, But people understand fundamentally how it's working,
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: even if they don't understand every single response it makes.
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: And I think we know what the dangers are like
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: if we know it's not conscious, and we know it
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: has no values.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: We know what it can and cannot do. We know
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: what's possible and what's impossible.
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: To it, and I very much think that if you
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: bring in people who are really thoughtful and really thinking
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: and really we're also involved in the design of AI,
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: they know what the dangers are and I think I
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: think they can deal with those dangers.
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: All right, Steven, what are the exam questions? Curious?
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: How I do I'm not gonna tell them value just
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: in case one of my students is listening to.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: The show and they get they get what, you know,
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: a preview of the exam questions.
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: So ask me the question again tomorrow. Well, if there's
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: a show tomrow, if I do a show tomorrow, ask
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: again tomorrow, and I'll tell you.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: What the exam questions are.
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: What Michael thoughts on Tom Steyer, I mean, he's a
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: Democrat who is He's a billionaire, he is an environmentalist, activist,
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: he's a real leftist, he's a really he's a really
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: bad guy who uses his money to advocate for some
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: of the worst causes in the world right now than
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: Emanade on the left. So I think he was very
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: much woke, but very much an environmentalist and very much
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: a socialist. So I would stay away from Tom Steyer.
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: Wyatt is the issue with Ken Griffin's offer that you
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: think oh Well shouldn't be sanctioned similar to how you
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: think David Kelly shouldn't sanctioned. No, I mean it's completely
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: completely different. I have no problem with sanctioning Oh Weell.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: I have no problem kids reading all Well. They should read.
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: Owell is a really good writer, and he's very good
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: at describe being authoritarian, and authoritarianism in nineteen eighty four
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: is a brilliant book. Animal Farm is pretty good in
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: describing kind of a stalinist environment. All I'm saying is
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: to combat mumdanni. Don't use a socialist if you want
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: to combat mamdani, use a capitalist right, combat hym at
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: the level of ideas. But no, you should definitely buy
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: your kids Animal Farm, have them read it. You should
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: have them read nineteen eighty four and talk to them
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: about it. High school kids should all be reading dystopian
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: novels Anthem among them, but they should be reading Animal Farm.
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: I just don't think Kevin Griffin, in attacking ma'mdanni and
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: in educating people about m'mdanni, should use an author who
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: is a socialist. I imagine if people, if people, if
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: students read Animal Farm, go Okay, this is anti Mumdani.
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: And then they read about oil and discover here's a
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: democratic socialist exactly like Mumdani and they go, oh, oh,
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: so Mamdani's also against animal fall cool, also against Stalinism.
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: So what have you done?
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: You've achieved nothing, So Stalinism everybody is against, even Mumdani.
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: It's not effective. You're not helping, your hurting your cause.
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: Send the kids something that's clearly opposed to Mamdani.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: I like numbers. Has the Atlas Prize generated by so far?
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: You know?
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: I don't know, and maybe the fact that I don't
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: know suggest it hasn't much. So I don't I don't know.
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: I'll find out from somebody at the Institute and let
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: you guys know, I'm not engaged. Ian says, how much
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: would we have to pay you to see the new
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: Animal Farm movie? It sounds like torture? Yeah, you know,
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: at least a thousand bucks. I think I could then
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: comment on it at lease a thousand books.
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: Yeah and not. It looks really really disgusting, really disgusting.
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: But look might becompletely consistent with George Jowell, that is,
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: he might approve of it.
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: I don't know again Owell was He's good of an
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: off that he was as good of his books are.
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: He was a socialist. Don't don't forget that fact. All right.
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