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- 0:07Now broadcasting from the Next Gen. conservative studio in
- 0:11sunny South Florida, bringing you the latest in politics,
- 0:15current events and pop culture. This is the Whitfield Report
- 0:20with Sam Whitfield. Welcome to the Whitfield Report,
- 0:31everybody. I'm your host, Sam Whitfield,
- 0:34joined here by Max Sand and truly, and I just got to say,
- 0:41Max, you were absolutely right last week when you said that
- 0:47because you said last episode, we kind of had a calm, you know,
- 0:50and show the episode. It's very comfy.
- 0:53Yeah, but. But you said next, you said at
- 0:56the end of the show, I bet next week we'll have a we'll have a
- 0:59jam packed show because that's usually how things go.
- 1:03And boy howdy are you, right? Because literally the day after
- 1:07that show, Tucker was interviewing, you know, the
- 1:12entire GOP field, basically. Nick Flint is anything Ralph are
- 1:18now beefing, Ice Cube went on Joe Rogan, and he's been doing.
- 1:23Stuff. Roseanne.
- 1:25Roseanne. Had a whole thing the the Jason
- 1:29Aldean try this in a small town song is now #1 because it's a
- 1:34song about lynching. Like we're there there's enough
- 1:37man we could talk all day about what's.
- 1:39Oh. Yeah, we we have a whole, we
- 1:42have a whole jam packed shell for you.
- 1:45So, and no matter how much we cover today, there's going to be
- 1:48shit we missed because this week was just one of those weeks.
- 1:51Yeah. Well, so where do we, where do
- 1:55we want to start, I guess, gentlemen.
- 1:58Oh, and by the way, Shuli is back.
- 2:01I hope you're, I hope you're feeling a bit better.
- 2:06I, you know, we were talking about there.
- 2:08Are you Why? Would I be doing?
- 2:09Weather, well, you know. You and I are both survivors
- 2:15now, Shmuly. Is it because I have like a
- 2:19disease that was probably tested by in a Wuhan lab and you know,
- 2:26got leaked out And then instead of like working to notify the
- 2:31world and prevent the spread, the Chinese made sure the people
- 2:34left who were infected and sat on that information And then I
- 2:39maybe maybe that research was. Partly funded by the Eco Health
- 2:45Alliance, which was our scientific.
- 2:48And partly led by Doctor Fauci. Yeah, our scientific community,
- 2:53because it's necessary for us to create dangerous pathogens in
- 2:58order to know how to respond to those similar dangerous
- 3:03pathogens arising naturally. You know, kind of like when.
- 3:09And then and then showing our inability to respond to these
- 3:13dangerous pathogens. Yes, yes, Ohh it's all very
- 3:16great. It's you know it's man made
- 3:18horror beyond comprehension. It's everything that I talk
- 3:22about all of the problems with the world wrapped up into some
- 3:25kind of like insane example. I mean even just the gain of
- 3:31function thing. It's like it's like if Max you
- 3:35know, Ohh, he's he's got a family, we're gonna do fire
- 3:38drills. And it's like, oh, but his son
- 3:40has a great idea. He'll just set the curtains on
- 3:43fire so that then they can practice what it would be like
- 3:46if, you know, the curtains were on fire.
- 3:51That's a bit too that's a bit too real.
- 3:53And now I got to go make sure there are no lighters around I.
- 3:58Mean this is, this is this is the.
- 3:59Way our oligarchic bureaucratic manager elite love to to do
- 4:06things, you know, got to get that funding.
- 4:08You know how we should test the effects of a nuke is we should
- 4:11just nuke ourselves. Yeah, yeah.
- 4:15I mean, I mean. Basically, I also love the fact
- 4:18that, like, it's admitted now that YouTube gets funding from
- 4:25The Who and that's why channels like mine got, you know, news.
- 4:35Thank God for thank God for rumble.
- 4:39Yeah, but. But you know, Elsa Gate is back
- 4:42and more fucked up than ever. But you know, Sam talking about
- 4:46a death in his family was over the line, right?
- 4:50Fucking fuck YouTube. Just, you know, fuck him.
- 4:55Yeah. You know, and for people
- 4:59wondering, like I honestly don't mind Ethan Ralph being Odd
- 5:03Rumble. I I kind of think it's funny
- 5:06actually, just because like, there's no betting pool over
- 5:11under of how long he'll be on. Yeah, here's the thing I said
- 5:16immediately is for him to operate on Rumble, he has to
- 5:19stop using DMCA music. Because eventually, like the
- 5:23thing about Cozy is when they got a DMCA letter, Nick Fuentes
- 5:29would just throw it into the trash and hope that they don't
- 5:32sue him. That's that's the trick, by the
- 5:35way. If you if you guys aren't aware
- 5:37of the magic of how Cozy can get around the DMCA, it's just that
- 5:41they're refusing to be compliant, right?
- 5:43And nobody has yet tooken them to court.
- 5:46Rumble will comply. I promise you they're going to
- 5:49comply with US copyright law. Whatever you know, we we don't.
- 5:55We try not to violate copyright here.
- 5:57Of course we do. Some fair use looking at clips
- 6:00here and there. But yeah.
- 6:03You know, I I I think that that alone will will get them.
- 6:09Someday. What?
- 6:10What we do here with con hitting on clips is different than
- 6:14playing like an entire album and then screaming into the
- 6:18microphone and like trying to fix mic issues.
- 6:23Well, well play. You know the music, too.
- 6:29Right, like that's. The other thing too is.
- 6:32People like they thought about, well, your small podcast.
- 6:35Well, that may be the case, but you know.
- 6:39Our our. Audio is fixed before the show
- 6:42usually, so that helps a lot. Yeah, yeah.
- 6:47You know, we might be small show, but we also are in a
- 6:51position where we don't have a lot of the growing pains a lot
- 6:54of small shows have of just terrible audio and.
- 6:59Not knowing what they're doing, not being able to hold the
- 7:01conversation, talking. My favorite is when you get like
- 7:066 guys on a podcast and they're all.
- 7:08Like and they start talking over each other.
- 7:10Yeah, it's really bad when they do that, right?
- 7:14Yeah. Yeah.
- 7:15We couldn't even keep the talking over each other going
- 7:18long enough to make the joke. You just jump in with the one
- 7:21interruption. Well, you know that that's how
- 7:23that happens. And you know.
- 7:25Whatnot. So, and also we all fall back
- 7:28whenever it starts, right? Whenever somebody jumps in.
- 7:31We're all pros that have been doing it long enough to where
- 7:33it's like, OK, he's talking, all right.
- 7:36Yeah. You know, it's.
- 7:38I don't understand. The other thing is like dead
- 7:41air. I like how many people are out
- 7:42there. Just like, hold on, let me go
- 7:45over here and. Yeah, yeah.
- 7:49Audience, yeah. You just you.
- 7:51Just watch me fucking scratch my balls for 5 minutes.
- 7:53That's fine. So you know.
- 7:57But the COVID thing, the the COVID thing I want to get to
- 8:00because of Ice Cube, that's that's related.
- 8:04And so ice cube catching a lot of Flack from the left because
- 8:09he refused the vaccine. And I've been saying this all
- 8:12along, any black person especially.
- 8:16Who refuses? The vaccine has a pretty fucking
- 8:19good reason. And if you don't know what that
- 8:20reason is, it's called the Tuskegee experiment or the human
- 8:25syphilis experiment, The untreat, I'm sorry, untreated
- 8:29human syphilis experiment, where they gave all of these young
- 8:32black men in their 20s syphilis. They told him it was a vaccine,
- 8:38experimental vaccine. They paid them and then they
- 8:41gave them syphilis on purpose. And never treated them just to
- 8:45see what would happen. And that was in the 30s, right?
- 8:51All the way up until the 1970s. That continued the experiment.
- 8:55So we're talking 40 years of injecting black men with
- 9:00syphilis and then just letting them suffer and go insane.
- 9:03By the way, syphilis makes you go insane when you're not
- 9:06treated. And and that, if you think about
- 9:10it, 1970, that's the end of the experiment.
- 9:13Meaning they were doing this in living memory of a lot of black
- 9:18people in in a lot of cases, this was their granddad.
- 9:22That was. In the case of somebody like Ice
- 9:24Cube, who's basically Gen. X, right, it was his dad.
- 9:29I don't think his dad was in the experiment, but it was his last
- 9:32generation. Yeah, no that that was only,
- 9:34that was only like 50 years ago, which you know in the, in the
- 9:38grand scheme of things is not that long ago.
- 9:42In all reality. Yeah, and so they have stories
- 9:46that they've told, hey uncle, you know, great Uncle Joe got a
- 9:50jab from the government and it made him go insane and die.
- 9:55And then they're like, hey, come get your jab from the government
- 9:58and fuck you fuck. Well, I mean, we had the great
- 10:03public health policy establishment having the open
- 10:07debate whether to give it to them first, You know what I
- 10:10mean? Yeah, yeah, give it to the
- 10:13people first. That wasn't scaring anybody.
- 10:17That wasn't incredibly sketchy. Yeah.
- 10:20So why does it matter? Why does it matter that it was
- 10:22Ice Cube? Why is it a big thing?
- 10:24Because Ice Cube, besides being like, probably one of, like, the
- 10:30most influential rappers ever, undisputedly a member of N.W.A
- 10:37going back. Also a pretty famous actor, More
- 10:41people know him from acting even than from his music, and because
- 10:46he hasn't gotten the vaccine, he is blacklisted across.
- 10:50The industry cannot work in Hollywood in any capacity until
- 10:55he gets it. So he.
- 10:59He's being punished and persecuted and now being, you
- 11:02know, shit talked by the whole left because he, he stood out
- 11:05and said my health is worth all the money in the world, You
- 11:08can't pay me anything to take that because I don't want it.
- 11:13And he's like, and all this time I haven't gotten COVID, and if I
- 11:16did, I don't think it would be that bad.
- 11:18I'm a healthy guy. I have money.
- 11:20I can I can seek the best treatment he has.
- 11:23Like, there's no excuse to say that this man has to be forced
- 11:27to do this. And Ice Cube, you say what you
- 11:29want about rap. You say what you want about the
- 11:32the genre he basically helped found, which is gangster rap.
- 11:35But Ice Cube has never done what you fucking want him to do.
- 11:39He's he's always been his own guy, independent thinker.
- 11:42And yeah, he's just like, I'm not taking the fucking jab at
- 11:47all, ever, under any circumstances.
- 11:50I I think they're also mad at Ice Cube and this is me I wanted
- 11:54to bring up to because back during the 2016 election.
- 11:58Like I swooped in it. 2020, I think is the one you mean.
- 12:03Well, I mean, well, I mean during I heard it back.
- 12:09I don't know if it was said during 2016, but I remember at
- 12:12one point there was like a clip going around of him viral where
- 12:16it was like, yeah, why wouldn't it like rappers love Donald
- 12:20Trump and why wouldn't we? He's like a rich successful
- 12:23businessman that like. You know, he's always flying on
- 12:26in private jets and he has all these beautiful.
- 12:29Women. Yeah, that's an older clip from
- 12:32before he was even running for president.
- 12:34Because, you know, spoiler alert to anybody that didn't know
- 12:37Trump was friends with a lot of famous black people, including
- 12:41but not limited to Mike Tyson. Ice Cube, iced tea, you know,
- 12:46iced teas, had some spicy takes on Trump.
- 12:50So was Ice Cube. I don't agree with Ice Cube
- 12:52politically on everything. Right.
- 12:54Like obviously he's kind of on the left, but he's more of like
- 12:58the the 1990s center left right and and like if you want to talk
- 13:05about something, there would be no Black Lives Matter if it
- 13:08wasn't for Ice Cube period end to end the fucking story.
- 13:11You can't even have the conversation beyond that because
- 13:14what N.W.A did in the 80s was with a little song called Fuck
- 13:18the Police. Started a wave talking you can
- 13:23you cannot like the fucking theme of it.
- 13:25You can be mad because you're you're you know oh cops are all
- 13:28good. Which is like if you believe
- 13:29that you're stupid by the way, there are bad.
- 13:32Cops, right? Yeah, we've talked about that
- 13:35too. And and and it wasn't but a few
- 13:38years later, yeah, The thing is, Ice Cube and Ice T, both in the
- 13:42in the late 80s, early 90s had songs about police brutality and
- 13:46everybody treated them like they were fucking crazy.
- 13:49That's not a thing that happens, Ice.
- 13:51Ice T's was with his band Body Count.
- 13:54It was called Cop Killer. Very controversial track to say
- 13:57the least. The premise of the song being
- 14:00somebody so fed up with fucking police brutality that he just
- 14:03goes on a fucking rampage against police, right?
- 14:07And and you had the president, President Bush denouncing this
- 14:11song. You had the president.
- 14:14You had Reagan denouncing. Fuck the police.
- 14:17You had the FBI writing these people letters and then Rodney
- 14:21King happened and suddenly people were like wait a minute,
- 14:25you guys are right. There is police brutality going
- 14:27on in these minority communities and that leads us to today It's
- 14:33they were the first people to bring this into the mainstream
- 14:36discussion. And I still think if you go back
- 14:39and listen to what they were saying then and not what the
- 14:42anti police activists say now, they were fucking right on the
- 14:45money. Yes, there are good cops.
- 14:47And in fact, most cops are probably good, or at least
- 14:50mediocre. They're not outgoing, out of
- 14:52their way, beating people up on the street.
- 14:54They're not hunting black people down like the meme says.
- 14:57But I've been the victim of fucking police brutality.
- 15:00It is a fucking problem. It is.
- 15:03Completely ingrained in our culture, there are cops who get
- 15:06into it and for whatever reason, they think they're fucking God
- 15:09and they will beat the fuck out of you and not think twice about
- 15:13it. Because they're a goddamn
- 15:14sociopath. And those motherfuckers not only
- 15:16deserve to have their badge taken away, they should be
- 15:19shoved up their fucking ass. Because a badge doesn't grant
- 15:24you special fucking rights, bitch.
- 15:27No, not at all. I.
- 15:29Love. I love the good cops out there
- 15:31that work fucking hard, But forever.
- 15:33For every, you know, probably not even 10, probably 100.
- 15:37For every 100 cops there is one that will.
- 15:40My eyes still fucked up because the cop detached my retina.
- 15:43He sucker punched me from behind while I was in handcuffs talking
- 15:46to the other cop, right? This shit is it's out of control
- 15:51these guys were talking about. And now BLM has made it to the
- 15:54all cops. All cops are bastards, right?
- 15:56And they're completely fucking lost the plot, and that's why
- 15:59they're never going to accomplish anything towards
- 16:02police reform at all. It's.
- 16:05But you got to give Ice Cube his fucking credit for that, because
- 16:08he he was among the first people to talk about it in the
- 16:11mainstream. Sorry.
- 16:12Well, this goes back to what I what I've always said, which is
- 16:16we're at a point now where like. 2.
- 16:19Were the two opposite extremes? Get completely amplified, right?
- 16:26And it doesn't really matter what issue right you have.
- 16:30Like in regards to Trump, no one is like the media doesn't focus
- 16:36on the reasonable people like you and I who support Trump.
- 16:40No, no, no. They go whenever they want to
- 16:43focus on, you know. Quote UN quote right.
- 16:47Wing people that focus on Trump, who do they focus on, they want
- 16:51to focus on? You know, on on types like Nick
- 16:57Fuentes and Richard Spencer, who aren't even conservative and who
- 17:02quite frankly, don't support Trump at all.
- 17:04They're just there. I'll tell you another one where
- 17:07they focus on it won't be like a Nazi, it won't be somebody like
- 17:10them. But what it will be is they'll
- 17:12find somebody at like a Trump rally that.
- 17:15Looks a little funny, right? Like a working class kind of
- 17:19guy, working class clothes. They talk to him off camera for
- 17:22a minute and realize maybe he's not the smartest fucking guy in
- 17:25the world and they'll show that clip 100 fucking times of him
- 17:29saying something stupid. That's that's a trick the media
- 17:31likes to pull. They find these working class
- 17:33salt of the earth guys and then use them to demonize Trump when
- 17:38they don't even have any ill will.
- 17:39They're just they're like out here, like I just.
- 17:42You know, the economy was better when Trump was in charge.
- 17:44And I don't like this woke shit. And they're like, see, look at
- 17:47this crazy lunatic and he's he's got, you know, it'd be me.
- 17:51I'd be one of them. They I'll tell you, when I was
- 17:53at the straight Pride parade, Boston, 2019, a lot of media
- 17:57came to talk to me. But then they realized NPR did
- 18:01an interview with me for about 3 minutes and then she walked away
- 18:04from me because I owned her. She didn't expect it and but the
- 18:08thing that's funny as it was live.
- 18:11I so Wolverines snicked in the chat who was a friend of the
- 18:18show and also a purchaser of the book too.
- 18:21Thank you very much Sir says understand they don't hire
- 18:26Harvard grad. They don't hire Harvard grads
- 18:30for cops. They hire mostly your bottom 10%
- 18:33of the population to be cops. And I'm former.
- 18:38And I'm former military police, Which is worse.
- 18:40And that's true. I have heard that about the
- 18:43Mp's, that they can be a bit worse, yeah.
- 18:45Wolverine Snaked is former military and you know, thank you
- 18:51for your service and I will be consulting with them for plot
- 18:56points on the next Shadows of the Deception book.
- 19:00But anyway. Well, that, that.
- 19:02That's the thing though. He hits the nail on the head
- 19:04right there. Because guess who?
- 19:05Guess who knows what I'm saying as much as anybody else.
- 19:08Fucking cops. Yeah.
- 19:09Cops know this is a fucking problem.
- 19:12But there, what are you going to do?
- 19:14Right? You can report the guy that you
- 19:16witnessed doing it, but if you know Joe, you know in the other
- 19:19department, goes out there and he's a fucking sociopathic Dick
- 19:23who beats the shit out of people.
- 19:25But you're not on a call with him.
- 19:27You don't see it happening. Everybody just knows.
- 19:30That this guy does that shit. They hear it from like like,
- 19:33look, cops in a small town or even in a in an urban area.
- 19:36They pick up the same people right over and over again.
- 19:40They hear the story, hey, Officer Joe beat the fuck out of
- 19:44me last week. They know that this is going on,
- 19:46but they all they could do is say, hey, this crackhead tells
- 19:51me that Joe beat him up and they're going to be like, yeah,
- 19:53you're going to believe a crackhead, right?
- 19:56And the body cams don't help. I've seen body Cam.
- 20:00Of cops beating the fuck out of people.
- 20:02They don't even turn the motherfucker off.
- 20:05Yeah, I. Know.
- 20:05Beat the fuck out of people well.
- 20:08What was pretty damning, too, was on the On the last episode
- 20:13of the Whitfield Report the apex was on before he retired, he and
- 20:18I looked at body Cam footage of. And I can't remember what state
- 20:24it was. It was earlier this year, but it
- 20:26was it was footage of basically black cops beating on another
- 20:32black, I believe. That was in Tennessee.
- 20:36Oh yeah, yeah, something like that.
- 20:38Thank you. Yeah, it was in Tennessee, and
- 20:40Apex and I were making fun of the cops.
- 20:42Because the way the cops were, what we're talking, they were
- 20:46all talking like little gang bangers, like.
- 20:49Yeah, let me check this shit. Shit, we're.
- 20:53Going to the The crazy thing about that is it's it was almost
- 20:56a one for one recreation of Rodney King, except all the cops
- 21:00were black. Yes, it's wild that they they
- 21:05they know that they're on body Cam, they know they're on
- 21:08security footage and they're still beating the fuck out of
- 21:11the sky in the middle of the street.
- 21:12You know why? Because most of the time that
- 21:14shit never gets to the news. As a guy that worked, you know,
- 21:19and we've completely derailed from the COVID topic that
- 21:21brought Ice Cube into this. But I think this is, you know,
- 21:24if you're going to talk Ice Cube and you're going to talk police,
- 21:27you know this is, this is kind of where it's at, is like we've
- 21:33gone that far. It's like okay now.
- 21:35We've racially diversified police brutality.
- 21:37Is it okay now, Now that it's all minorities beating on a
- 21:42minority, are we okay with it? Or when they beat up me, it's
- 21:45okay because I'm a white guy. No, the cops shouldn't be going
- 21:49out of control. Ever.
- 21:51But the problem is I worked with with Police State daily for
- 21:55quite a time. Shout out to them.
- 21:57I also wrote for Cop Block copblock.org for a short period
- 22:01of time and so I know what I'm fucking talking about when I say
- 22:07it's very hard to get. A story out about police
- 22:11brutality. You can get the video out, but
- 22:13that doesn't mean shit. Nobody cares.
- 22:16They they watch the video. I call it bad cop porn and
- 22:20that's why I quit Cop Block, because there's a segment of the
- 22:23population that just wants to see the video of the cops
- 22:26behaving badly. So they could say, oh fucking
- 22:28pigs, I hate them all. Pigs are bastards, but they
- 22:32don't do anything about it. They just.
- 22:34Bitch. That's also that's also why
- 22:37that's also and I mean I hate to be one of these people, but I'll
- 22:40be, I will be one of these people.
- 22:42That's also why the corporate press is so bad too, because
- 22:47they are like you cannot tell me that the George Floyd thing,
- 22:52like even if we believe that the George Floyd thing was bad and
- 22:57that it shouldn't have happened, we can maybe agree on that, but
- 23:00we can also maybe agree that the George Floyd thing.
- 23:03Was selected purposely to be politically motivated because
- 23:08and. They didn't care if anything
- 23:12came of it, just that they had that clip.
- 23:15One specific tactic that BLM uses is that they're very
- 23:19specific for about what topics what not what topics, but what
- 23:25events they choose to be active about or to propagate.
- 23:30And you'll notice. That they could have used like
- 23:33that autistic African American kid that got shot by the police,
- 23:38right? Didn't use that.
- 23:40Tamir Rice, by the way. Tamir, they they would not use
- 23:45an example where it was not somebody who was thuggish,
- 23:50somebody who had a criminal history.
- 23:52Why? Because they need the dialectic?
- 23:57Because they know that people will look at that and go, well,
- 24:00what about this? And in the minds of their
- 24:03followers that just, you know, that's opposition.
- 24:07The opposition fools the fucking dialectic forward.
- 24:11And that's why these people are trained Maoist by their own,
- 24:15their own profession. What do you call it?
- 24:19Admission. Yeah, no, I got.
- 24:22I got blocked. I got blocked.
- 24:26I got blocked by the BLM by like the main BLM verified Facebook
- 24:31page because I like I posted the video of those black cops
- 24:39beating the other people in Tennessee and I wasn't even
- 24:43trying to be like a smart ass. But I'm like, you know, hey,
- 24:46here's video of. Yeah.
- 24:49Did his life not matter? He was black.
- 24:53Yeah. Oh, but but the cops being black
- 24:55makes it that it wipes it out. So it's okay then.
- 24:58Then it shows you bold faced as bare as day.
- 25:03Mask off all that you any metaphor you want that they
- 25:07don't actually care about police brutality.
- 25:11It's just race pimping. That's all it is.
- 25:14Yeah. Because because I like there's
- 25:17there's other instances. There was a instance here in
- 25:19Massachusetts that took like. 20 years to resolve where the cops
- 25:24went to the wrong address, knocked on a guy's door, right.
- 25:28The guy opened it. He had his three-year old son
- 25:31with him in the living room. He opens the door and he sees it
- 25:34was the cops because he didn't open it all the way.
- 25:37He had one of them chains on it, right?
- 25:39So he pulled because he didn't know who the fuck's knocking on
- 25:41my door. He's not going to unchain it for
- 25:43just anybody, right? And it was like 3 in the morning
- 25:46and he got woken up Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, right.
- 25:50And him and his kid come out, he opens the little crack in the
- 25:53door. He sees it's the cops.
- 25:54Before he knows what's happening, they shot him in the
- 25:56face in front of his son. He died.
- 25:58He bled out. And then the and the cop that
- 26:01shot him said to the son, oh, don't worry, Daddy's going to
- 26:04die. They didn't do shit about this.
- 26:08They they gave that guy a medal. As a matter of fact, they gave
- 26:10the cop that shot an innocent man a medal because they were
- 26:14like, he looks like he might be holding a gun.
- 26:18You know, and it took us. It took.
- 26:21There was a serious push to get some semblance of justice in the
- 26:25case. Finally, those two officers were
- 26:28taken off of the force. But like a case like that,
- 26:32here's the thing. Why have you never heard of this
- 26:34case? Well, because all the parties
- 26:36involved were white, so nobody cared.
- 26:40Nobody cared except me. Because I'm looking at this
- 26:42injustice and saying what the fuck?
- 26:46Patrick. Duvall was governor at the time,
- 26:49a good friend of Obama, hardcore leftist Democrat, and he gave
- 26:54these guys a medal for shooting an innocent man and celebrated
- 27:00them. And it wasn't until he was out
- 27:01of office that they were finally able to move the case through
- 27:05just insane shit. You can't get attention on these
- 27:08fucking cases where it's cut and dry.
- 27:10You can only get cases where it's a scumbag.
- 27:14Because they want the other side to be like, well, why do you
- 27:16care so much about the scumbags? And why aren't you caring about
- 27:20like, they want us to to do the what about ISM?
- 27:23That's intentional, because then they can say, well, you're just
- 27:26being racist. It's.
- 27:29Not to me. It's not about race, it's about
- 27:31police acting badly. And and Tucker actually brought
- 27:35that exact point up like a few years ago on his, you know, Fox
- 27:39Show. And people called him.
- 27:41Crazy, but he was, you know, he was right, as he is on a lot of
- 27:46this stuff. So normal people don't think
- 27:50it's crazy and that's why I think the ice cube thing is
- 27:53important. A lot of people look up to him
- 27:55on not just the COVID issue, right?
- 27:58He's been advocating for a certain certain positions for a
- 28:03long time. You said the 2016 thing, I I
- 28:06mentioned 2020. The reason I say 2020 was
- 28:09because in 2020. Ice Cube said that he wanted to
- 28:13meet with because he had a council of, you know, black
- 28:17people that were coming up with strategies for how to like,
- 28:22reduce the problems that they have in the ghetto essentially,
- 28:25right. No other way around it.
- 28:27And he had a plan and he had several suggestions.
- 28:30He asked the Biden people and the Trump people to meet with
- 28:34him and Biden flat out refused. Never even, never even
- 28:39entertained it Trump. Whatever.
- 28:41Ice Cube wasn't a big fan of Trump.
- 28:43He didn't vote for Trump. But Trump actually met with him
- 28:47and from those suggestions, crafted what he calls the
- 28:50Platinum plan, which is still part of his of his platform for
- 28:552024. The Platinum plan.
- 28:57You can read it online. Just look up Trump Platinum
- 29:00plan. The whole thing's there.
- 29:01I can't go through every step of it.
- 29:03But it is. It is.
- 29:04It is a plan that was crafted with the help of leaders in the
- 29:07African American community as well as Ice Cube.
- 29:11Because you know. Having a.
- 29:12Celebrity. Having a celebrity helps, right?
- 29:14He's got name value. And this plan was crafted with
- 29:17their input and help. And because that's the kind of
- 29:21guy that Trump is, Biden doesn't want to help them.
- 29:26He just says. Black if you don't vote for me.
- 29:28No, not just that. But I always like to remind
- 29:31people, and especially the younger, you know, people in the
- 29:34audience, maybe they don't know this Biden crap.
- 29:39Biden was one of the architects of the 1994 crime bill, which
- 29:46essentially, you know, to put in a layman's terms, what's the
- 29:51incarceration of more innocent black people on a federal level
- 29:57than? Anything we've seen in a long
- 30:00time and also just to remind people, Hillary also referred to
- 30:05young black man as super predators.
- 30:08So did Joe. Biden in the 90s.
- 30:10So did Joe Biden, Yeah. Yeah.
- 30:13Black black men, young black men were super.
- 30:16Predators the the The Democrat Party.
- 30:20Listen, I know. People think that Janesh D'souza
- 30:24is crazy and. As someone who actually, like,
- 30:29has family who met Dinesh D'souza, he's he might be a bit
- 30:33eccentric, but he's not crazy. But Dinesh D'souza always brings
- 30:37up the fact that racism never left the Democrat Party from the
- 30:411800s. It's just they got better at
- 30:44hiding. It is essentially all that
- 30:46happened. And they've tried to infiltrate
- 30:48it into the into the GOP. Like, that's the whole.
- 30:51Yeah, like what do you think the neo Nazis are other than
- 30:54infiltrators? They're not right wing.
- 30:56Sorry, if you're a National Socialist, you're not right
- 31:00wing. That's not how this works,
- 31:02right? But they they try and push them
- 31:03in. They.
- 31:04Say hey. See.
- 31:05Look at these KKK guys like KKK was was literally in, in the 20s
- 31:09and 30s a branch of the Democrat Party.
- 31:15They had rallies for the fucking presidency in Washington, DC
- 31:20where they were all in Klan robes.
- 31:21This was the Democrats, right? Like let's let's not fucking
- 31:26pretend for a second here. Otherwise it's fucking crazy
- 31:31like and and. But, but Max.
- 31:33But Max, like Nixon, he like appealed to people in the South.
- 31:39So you know, the party switched, yeah.
- 31:43Yeah, Nixon, right? Who fucking hated What's his
- 31:46face? The governor there that blocked
- 31:48the kids from going to school? Yeah, but but it but it doesn't.
- 31:51Matter because you know. They Democrat.
- 31:54Democrat Wallace, by the way. Yeah, yeah.
- 31:57But it doesn't matter because he, like, tried to appeal to
- 31:59people broadly in the South with his populist platform.
- 32:03So. So obviously they switched, man.
- 32:06Everybody. Just switched and it was so
- 32:08effective that he won 49 states, including a lot of states that
- 32:12they wouldn't he wouldn't be appealing to with racism or
- 32:15whatever. Listen.
- 32:17How? How would they have switched?
- 32:18If If you know, how would they have not have switched that it
- 32:22was the case? Max.
- 32:23I mean come on. Hey you know I heard that the
- 32:25Democrats are they were all against lockdowns and mandates
- 32:31and stuff cuz the party switched back then.
- 32:33Well, I mean the the problem with that argument is like, what
- 32:36does it even mean to say the party switch?
- 32:39Like it? It's such an absurd claim.
- 32:44Like just. Think about it intuitively for a
- 32:46SEC. Like no, no, no.
- 32:47Well, we have these two parties and they compete against each
- 32:50other. And then in the 60s they decided
- 32:54to alter switch. I yeah, I.
- 32:57I had a I had a problem. I had a professor in college who
- 33:01I was taking a like a U.S. history and civic scores at the
- 33:05time and my professor like brought that point up that the
- 33:10party is switched and so I swear to God I wasn't even being like
- 33:14a smart ass. But I asked like you know
- 33:17professor right. I've heard that you know before
- 33:20that the. What does that mean?
- 33:24Yeah. Yeah, what does that?
- 33:26Mean and like I was, I was, I was just asking this guy gets
- 33:31like this guy gets super flustered and in front of the
- 33:34class like well, well, and I shoot you.
- 33:38Not this was his. Answer Well, they just did,
- 33:41yeah. Maybe well.
- 33:44Because. Because to get to the root of
- 33:46that fucking answer, you have to talk about LBJ.
- 33:50You have to talk about what he said about black people.
- 33:53You have to talk about the reasons behind the Civil Rights
- 33:56Act, which was not to help black people.
- 33:59It was, one, to win votes and two, to keep them on the
- 34:02motherfucking plantation. Yep.
- 34:07You know, and and it worked to some degree, right?
- 34:10It worked to a pretty large degree, actually.
- 34:13I have no, Yeah, I have in. To this day I've yet to hear
- 34:18like a Democrat actually give me a a cohesive answer as to like
- 34:24how the parties switched so. I'll tell you, all the adult
- 34:30black men that I know are not voting Democrat this time
- 34:34around, and most of them did their whole life.
- 34:39Including twenty. 20 right up to 2020.
- 34:42And they will. It doesn't matter.
- 34:44The Republicans could run like a stump with googly eyes on it and
- 34:49they'd still vote for that just to not vote for the fucking
- 34:53Democrats anymore. That's how fed up they are.
- 34:55And and the woke shit has something to do with it.
- 34:58The kind of shit we're talking about the the the like moving
- 35:03the the best way I could describe it, you know how like
- 35:063-3 balls in a cup. I'm sorry, 3 cups in a ball game
- 35:11or like 3 card money and you get the shifty they fucking that's
- 35:15what they're doing. And and when you figure out the
- 35:17scam, the Democrats, what do they do?
- 35:19The same thing that that guy on the corner does like oh he's
- 35:23he's doing the ball and all these people fall off for it.
- 35:25One guy calls out the scam and says hey, I see you just putting
- 35:28the ball in your fucking hand. Well he fucking closes down the
- 35:32table. He moves somewhere else and does
- 35:34the same fucking thing or he comes back.
- 35:36And now instead of the three fucking cups and a ball, it's
- 35:39three card money. That's what the Democrats have
- 35:41always done. Yeah, well, they just.
- 35:43They flip the table and they say no, no, it's a new game now,
- 35:47Don't worry. And they well, they also
- 35:49constantly move the goal post for what You know, something
- 35:55something is right like. And this is also kind of going
- 36:00into the whole thing because I do want to cover this too, but
- 36:04like. You know Nick Fuentes and like
- 36:08they tried to. I just, I want to preface
- 36:12because we got a lot to say about this.
- 36:14I want to preface this by saying we really try not to delve into
- 36:17like the Ethan Ralph Universe here on the show.
- 36:20Because it's cancer, right? The people who get involved in
- 36:24it. There's so much daxing and just
- 36:27nonsense and it's not something that we seek to fucking involve
- 36:30ourselves in. But now the world, we do talk
- 36:34about Fuentes. Because it's relevant to the
- 36:36world of politics to point out the worst people allegedly on
- 36:39our side, who I have said from the beginning that is a honey
- 36:43pot. Whether it's a fed honey pot or
- 36:45Chinese, I don't know. But somebody is funding this to
- 36:49get young conservative leaning men off of the battlefield.
- 36:53Because now you're labeled, you're jacketed as a Nazi.
- 36:56These kids are going to have a hard time getting fucking jobs,
- 36:59let alone anything else. And Ethan, Ralph had sort of.
- 37:04Served as like their attack dogish, but he, you know, he
- 37:08would go off the reservation sometimes.
- 37:10They have now broken up. Well.
- 37:13I I just felt like I wanted to give a little history in case
- 37:16this is somebody's first time joining us.
- 37:18Ethan Ralph also is a podcaster, if that matters.
- 37:23Well. I wanted to say prior to letting
- 37:26Sam speak. That when I relistened to an
- 37:29episode of this show that I wasn't on, you said that I only
- 37:34picked out nitpicky typos. Of your book.
- 37:39And I take great offense to this because when I read your book,
- 37:45in the beginning, you have like, you know, three different starts
- 37:48and little things like, oh, we don't know this character's
- 37:53name. Wow, they had a conversation.
- 37:56Oh, now the main character knows his name.
- 38:00Out of nowhere. He teleports from fucking
- 38:04Afghan. From from.
- 38:06He teleports from Afghanistan to Fort Lauderdale based
- 38:12inexplicably. Right.
- 38:15So. So no, I picked out way more
- 38:18than little word errors, OK, I didn't.
- 38:23I didn't say hey, man. Add an extra I to this word.
- 38:29Hey. Sam.
- 38:31You put R instead of T at the beginning of this word.
- 38:35No, I gave you structural structural feedback of your
- 38:43book. I like it it.
- 38:46All of the scenes and stuff other than those flaws are
- 38:49great. Yeah.
- 38:51Ladies and gentlemen. A picture.
- 38:53One you know, soon enough there will be a second edition, I'm
- 38:57sure. There will be.
- 39:01Listen, I'm in. I'm in the process of writing.
- 39:03The the next. One right now.
- 39:08You see what you what you do, because it's short, is you make
- 39:10it a trilogy. And then for when you do all
- 39:13three in one, that's when you do the rewrite.
- 39:16Yeah, yes. If if you don't fix it like I
- 39:20might slal you. We're going.
- 39:26To send slow to him, but not like the so the Nick Fuentes
- 39:30thing. He had his rally that was Sunday
- 39:33of this week. Which would have been what the
- 39:35fuck day was it for anybody watching this in the future.
- 39:40It was July 16th big Nick Fuentes rally.
- 39:44Ralph was slated to be a speaker to talk about father's rights.
- 39:49The guy that doesn't. Anyway, again, I don't want to
- 39:53get into like the shit flinging of Ethan Ralph.
- 39:56He was, for whatever reason, they had a falling out.
- 40:01They apparently Nick told him to show up sober, and then he
- 40:06immediately started Daxing people from Nick Fuentes's
- 40:10organization America First, giving phone numbers names and
- 40:15so on. I.
- 40:18I would also like to point out that like the whole entire
- 40:21purpose of Nick Fuentes's rally this past weekend, in case you
- 40:25didn't know, the whole entire reason why he why he had this
- 40:30rally was because Turning Point had their Student Action Summit.
- 40:35Like right next door. And Nick and Nick's whole thing
- 40:40was I'm going to I'm, I'm going to be the next Charlie Kirk by
- 40:45basically like. Owning Troy Cook by holding my
- 40:48own rally and we're going to be bigger, so.
- 40:51To me, he wanted to. He wanted to do a Gripper Wars
- 40:54Two and he sure got one. Yeah, just just not the way,
- 40:59Just not in the way he thought. So what's funny to me is like,
- 41:05is Nick Fuentes basically like by having Ralph and his, you
- 41:13know? Orbit I guess self sabotages and
- 41:18I like. I did try and like watch a bit
- 41:20of the stream for, you know the app event for.
- 41:25The I've only seen the one clip that Rumble deemed worthy of
- 41:29banning him, which is where he said that he said that it's a
- 41:34holy war and we need our enemies all to die or something to that
- 41:38effect. Yeah, yeah, is the blatant TOS
- 41:42violation. That that was, that was me
- 41:45quoting it. By the way, Rumble, I'm I don't
- 41:47endorse anything I fucking said and I hope he fucking dies a
- 41:51horrible death. I'm not wishing anybody to do
- 41:55that. I'm just saying I hope that he
- 41:57gets like this really rare disease that kills him very
- 42:00slowly and painfully. But he was very publicly banned
- 42:06from Rumble for anti-Semitism and threats of violence.
- 42:11Well, so yeah, so that happened. Meanwhile, like, which is.
- 42:16Crazy, because that's like Sam's every Thursday.
- 42:21You. Know well, you know hold on that
- 42:25that's. That's.
- 42:26That's going to be really suspicious considering that like
- 42:29you know, the the, the female character in my next book is
- 42:35going to be like an Israeli, like, you know.
- 42:41You just confirmed it. Just stop.
- 42:43Why just I just think like when I when I hear a name like like
- 42:47when I hear a phrase like you just said Max, I just think,
- 42:51wow, that would be a good podcast title.
- 42:54Like a name for a podcast, just anti-Semitism and threats of
- 42:58violence. Anti bro, anti-Semitism and
- 43:01threats of violence as a podcast title.
- 43:04And then you never mention any of that shit.
- 43:06You. Just talk about like sports,
- 43:08right? With the greatest basketball
- 43:12podcasts on the Internet. That that would that would be.
- 43:17Fantastic. But yeah, so Nick Fuentes, like,
- 43:21basically got like. Banned from Rumblewood is now at
- 43:25a war with Ethan Ralph. Meanwhile, like Charlie Couric,
- 43:30like I, I have my problems with Charlie Couric.
- 43:32Anyone who's paid attention to the show knows that.
- 43:36And and look, we've butted heads about that because I've said
- 43:39he's doing good work and you've talked about your problems with
- 43:42him as it you know. Yeah, I mean and listen, my my
- 43:47problems, my problems. Charlie Cook personally have to
- 43:50do with the fact he. Very and seriously.
- 43:54Unceremoniously. Like fired a friend of mine.
- 43:58And you know, for reasons I can't get into the specifics of
- 44:02that, but it was kind bullshit with that being said.
- 44:06As and because you're a loyal friend, right?
- 44:08Yeah, with that being said, as an or see my problems were are
- 44:13with Charlie Kirk, but as an organization I respect what
- 44:16Turning Point does and I will say this.
- 44:20Like their organization is pretty good.
- 44:21Not only that, but this weekend I was pretty impressed because
- 44:26they got Tucker Carlson in like one of his first big speaking
- 44:31events. And so picture this, ladies and
- 44:35gentlemen you have you have Nick Fuentes who can barely get like
- 44:40Fifth, who wants to? Who wants to own Charlie Kirk
- 44:45but can barely. Getting mogged during his own
- 44:49speech. Did you catch that?
- 44:50There's a good clip of that where somebody's like, hey Nick,
- 44:53why did you protect the pedophile Alexander?
- 44:57Oh yeah, and. In his responses, security Get
- 45:01him out of here. Yeah, he got, he got he.
- 45:05He got so mogged. Yeah.
- 45:09Meanwhile you have you have turning point.
- 45:12You have turning points events. Where Tucker Carlson.
- 45:16Comes out and basically get to get the standing ovation from
- 45:22everyone, and then proceeds to make fun of Mike Pence, which
- 45:26will get to that too, and exactly well.
- 45:29Because. Because, yeah, because of the
- 45:31Mike Pence flub there when he interviewed Mike Pence and
- 45:36Tucker said, well, you know, Americans have concerns here at
- 45:41home, essentially. I'm gonna paraphrase.
- 45:42I don't remember exactly every word, but Tucker said.
- 45:45Americans have all these problems at home, economically
- 45:48and and such and such a why should they care about you
- 45:54wanting to engage in this war in the Ukraine?
- 45:57And Mike Pence's response to that to Americans concerns is
- 46:02that's not my concern. His concern is the Ukraine.
- 46:07And then the next day, as if to like he gets nothing, he
- 46:11understands nothing, he puts up a post saying.
- 46:15We need to support Israel. Now I support, I support Israel
- 46:18and ironically, but I know some people support it ironically
- 46:22because they don't like Jews or whatever, but I actually believe
- 46:25in like the autonomy of the people, blah, blah, whatever,
- 46:28the sovereignty of a nation. So he puts out this thing saying
- 46:32we, we got to support Israel. It's like, bitch, you need to
- 46:34start talking about what you're going to do for Americans if you
- 46:36want anybody to vote for you. And he didn't.
- 46:39So now Mike Pence, I I'll go on record as saying he won't get
- 46:44elected fucking dog catcher as a Republican.
- 46:46Well. And and so can I also just say
- 46:49this because I I. Want to I'm not going to play a
- 46:52clip, but basically back when Mike Pence got nominate, got
- 46:58picked as VP for Trump back in 2016, I said back then.
- 47:06That the reason why Mike Pence was VP was to appeal to the
- 47:11Bible about Bell. And to seem like the more
- 47:16stabilizing force as opposed to Trump, who was a bit chaotic,
- 47:20yes. Well, yeah, yes, that that was,
- 47:22that was the entire, that was the that was Mike Pence's entire
- 47:26reason for being on the ticket, I believe.
- 47:29And honestly, I'm not even saying anything bad about Mike
- 47:35Pence. But you know, in terms of him
- 47:39being VP, but I honestly don't think that even I don't think he
- 47:43thought that they were going to win.
- 47:47No, he probably, he probably didn't.
- 47:49And then he thought he could coast as being Trump's vice
- 47:52president to him being president.
- 47:54And you know what he might have, he might have.
- 47:57But January 6th was strike one for him, for a lot of people,
- 48:01strike three for other people like myself.
- 48:05But. This Tucker interview, that's
- 48:07strike three for anybody who is left.
- 48:10Pence is getting single digits, low single digits.
- 48:15He's been passed by Vivek Ramaswamy, who is actually on
- 48:19pace to maybe even surpass the Santis.
- 48:22We spend enough time talking about the Santis, but De Santis
- 48:26is is, you know, looking at the end of a campaign already that
- 48:30he's spent way too much money. He just De Santis again.
- 48:34I don't want to spend too much time on it.
- 48:36Fired his entire staff for wasting millions of dollars on a
- 48:40bad campaign strategy. Sounds like a winner right
- 48:43there. Yeah.
- 48:44De Santis dumers. Oh yeah, I'm so worried about
- 48:47the guy who can't even manage his campaign.
- 48:49Well, and well enlisted. I will say this too for Vivek
- 48:55Ramaswami too. Like, I don't know if you guys
- 48:57heard this, but like, from what I've heard.
- 49:00Trump is actually like, yeah, you know, I actually like that
- 49:04that guy. I might want him as VP and and
- 49:07you know, he. He mentioned a few people, to be
- 49:10fair. He also mentioned Tim Scott and.
- 49:13Who I also like. Yeah, Tim Scott's all right.
- 49:16I think Tim Scott would be a solid choice.
- 49:18He's got experience. But but also, I should preface
- 49:22all this by saying I'm biased because I am, well, sort of
- 49:25friend of Yvette Ramaswami. He was at events that I've been
- 49:29to in Boston, free speech rallies and stuff going back to
- 49:322017. He's a really honest dude.
- 49:35Everything he's saying, he's one of those few politicians that
- 49:40believes what he's saying and isn't bullshitting you.
- 49:43I can. I can assure you of that.
- 49:45I think his chances of winning it are zero.
- 49:47But I don't think that's why he's running.
- 49:50So he's doing really, really well considering he's running
- 49:54just to make a point, which is impressive.
- 49:57Well, I think, I think though like he, he's kind of the guy I
- 50:02want as VP though. And I mean I I've like
- 50:06everything I've heard from him. I I like and I I think, I think
- 50:11he would do basically what what Mike Pence did for Trump, but
- 50:19better in the sense that like you know, Vivek isn't.
- 50:25The chaos element like Trump is, but he's more in line with
- 50:29Trump's, I guess, message of America first.
- 50:32He's a better Libertarian Party candidate than they have ever
- 50:36put forward going back to the 80s when Ron Paul ran
- 50:40Libertarian. I'll.
- 50:42Stand on that. He's a better Libertarian
- 50:44candidate than fucking Gary Johnson ever was.
- 50:47He's certainly better than the fucking broad they had last
- 50:50time. I don't even remember her name.
- 50:51She was a lefty. Maybe Bob Barr, but Vivek has
- 50:56more charisma. Yeah.
- 51:00And and listen, I I think, I think Vivek, based on what I
- 51:04know of him is probably like, yeah, like I'm getting into this
- 51:07race to attract Trump's attention so that I could, you
- 51:11know, at BBP or I couldn't get like a cabinet.
- 51:14I don't. I don't think that's his goal at
- 51:17all. I don't think if it happens,
- 51:19he's not going to say no. But I true like knowing the guy
- 51:23he truly believes what he's saying and he believes that he
- 51:26could be a good president under these principles.
- 51:30Whatever comes from him running. He knows he can't win but he he
- 51:34he well I assume he knows he can't win.
- 51:37I'm I'm I I'm not in his head so like and I haven't talked to him
- 51:41in in quite a while he did invite me right.
- 51:43Again disclosure he invited me to a picnic like 2 weeks ago but
- 51:47I was camping so like I do kind of know the guy.
- 51:50He's a he's a really good dude. He is running for the same
- 51:54reason the Libertarian Party was formed.
- 51:56The Libertarian Party was formed as a vanguard party to point out
- 52:00libertarian principles and they had no intention of ever
- 52:04winning. It was in the charter.
- 52:06Now that's not the Libertarian Party of today, and the only way
- 52:10to get those principles out isn't going to be by being some
- 52:13niche third party candidate, but but as Ron Paul has proven and
- 52:17Rand to some degree. Justin Amash and others running
- 52:22in the GOP, you can actually make these points to a broader
- 52:25audience. That's what he's doing.
- 52:27So I I just wanna I I don't wanna kind of pigeonhole him as
- 52:31he's running to get a VP slot. That's not what he's doing at
- 52:34all. But if it happens, I think he
- 52:36will absolutely take it. OK, real quick, I've got to read
- 52:412 super chats here, both of which are from Magga News
- 52:45Network. Magga News Network for $1.00
- 52:47says. I think that Smuggly just can't
- 52:50read the surprising The Surprising Origins of the Hot
- 52:56Dog. Understanding the Divine
- 52:59Connection is a blog post idea about explaining the history and
- 53:06connection between hot dogs and divinity, which I think it's
- 53:11hilarious considering that like, I guess today was National Hot
- 53:14Dog Day. Then Mitt Romney failed
- 53:17miserably at like, trying to act human by like doing a Nash it
- 53:22was. I love that he says that I can't
- 53:26read, and then he gives you a paragraph and then you fucking
- 53:32failed to read it correctly. That's what I love.
- 53:37Jesus. Hey, Hey.
- 53:39Mega News Network is loyal fan of the show, OK, just because he
- 53:44doesn't like. You.
- 53:46Personally, you know he's been a big supporter of the show.
- 53:50Shout out to Mega News. OK, and then he says Sam do the
- 53:55Oo Woo voice and and eat it. I have no idea what that.
- 54:00Mean. Yeah, I have no idea.
- 54:02I have no idea what that even means and what I'm supposed to
- 54:06even eat. So yeah, there, there.
- 54:08Seems he seems to have set a third one, but like I think it's
- 54:12like a no. OK, never mind, it's the, it's
- 54:15the. Ooh, yeah.
- 54:17Are you reading it on from Rumbles chat?
- 54:21Yeah. Yes.
- 54:23Well, there's a emoji. Oh yeah, it's the ice cream
- 54:28emoji. I think you know that TikTok
- 54:31thing where they're like inhuman and they're like ooh thank you
- 54:36ooh yummy cake. I think I.
- 54:38Think no. I don't.
- 54:40I don't know these. OK, what?
- 54:43The fuck? What kind of autistic shit are
- 54:45you talking about? Oh well, it's a format.
- 54:48That like it has you. You don't know about it, dude.
- 54:51It's it's scary because it's you would think it's nothing but E
- 54:56girls, but it's it's dudes too, because it's Tik toks.
- 54:59It's like dudes you would meet in a trap.
- 55:02House. It's like.
- 55:03It's like, it's like dudes you would find.
- 55:07You know, failing to work in a super loop, right?
- 55:10And they're sitting there and people send them super chats
- 55:14with like food and they speak like this.
- 55:17And they all have this. Thank you, Evan.
- 55:19I'm writing there your name. Oh, oh, it's cool.
- 55:21Yeah, South. Park made fun of it.
- 55:24I think I actually saw like I because my my friend Nashie will
- 55:29actually like quote tweeted a video from one of these things
- 55:33and was like, what the fuck is this?
- 55:36What the fuck? Is this are you gonna do it?
- 55:40No hey because I don't have a TikTok which by the way
- 55:44uninstall. Well, he sent you a super so, so
- 55:47people can't send you $2 super chats and.
- 55:50Listen, listen, if I did have ice cream earlier, I I will, I
- 55:56will eat ice cream on stream one of these shows.
- 56:00That's right. All right.
- 56:01But you have to say. Ooh or whatever.
- 56:04Yeah, you owe this guy. Yeah, I mean.
- 56:07If he's such a good fan of the show, apparently.
- 56:09He's a he's a huge fan of the show.
- 56:10Well he's, I think he's donated more money than anybody except
- 56:15like Mr. V. Well, listen for well, listen
- 56:18for me. That will listen like people
- 56:21used to take evil. Eric, who was an old friend of
- 56:24the show, used to like Super Chat like $15 for me to take my
- 56:29shirt off on. And you?
- 56:31Did that is that still, is that still a a thing?
- 56:36Me taking a shirt off on stream, it can be.
- 56:39Dollars. Is that all?
- 56:41Hold on. Inflation dictates that it
- 56:43should be a little more, though. True.
- 56:47You don't. You don't give the goods away
- 56:48cheap, right? You gotta.
- 56:50I just was not aware that this was the thing that was
- 56:54available. I mean you should like list it
- 56:56somewhere because. This is deep lore.
- 56:59Folks, $150.00 for feet, ladies and gentlemen.
- 57:04Yeah, but yeah, I wanna. Get on the mailing list of the
- 57:07menu, right. I didn't know this show had a
- 57:09menu. I was on the way.
- 57:11It was like $15. Takes off his shirt.
- 57:13What? What's the 30?
- 57:15Where's the four? You know, I'm not member of the
- 57:18the fucking menu club. I mean, it's great.
- 57:23That would be a. Great merchandise opportunity,
- 57:25dude. If at our store we could be like
- 57:27by the menu to see what you can pay this guy to do.
- 57:31I mean, I mean, listen, there's some stuff that I can't do
- 57:34because it's rumble and not only fans, obviously, which that was
- 57:40the other other thing I we used to Apex and I used to joke that
- 57:45like that if this show ever got. Band.
- 57:48This is before Rumble even existed, but that, like
- 57:51eventually we would have to go to only fans.
- 57:54Just yeah. Actually, yeah.
- 57:55About two years ago, me and a couple other guys had
- 57:59entertained the idea of streaming on only fans because
- 58:03they're less than serious. But it's not as good an idea as
- 58:07it sounds on paper. Once you try to actually
- 58:10accomplish this, you realize that no, that's actually not a
- 58:15good idea, but it sounds good, though.
- 58:19But I was thinking, I was thinking, hey, we could, we
- 58:21could set a goal like $1000 and we'll put out T-shirts with
- 58:24Sam's feet on them. There we there we go.
- 58:29That could be. So then you gotta you gotta
- 58:32donate the, you know, $1000 and then pay $30.00 for a fucking
- 58:36shirt. You know, if you fucking want
- 58:38his feet so bad or whatever weird shit.
- 58:42Anyhow. Fucking TV USA.
- 58:45So grippers in the Shitter TP USA puts on a absolute banger
- 58:49Trump's speech. If anybody didn't see it, I
- 58:52highly recommend it was really good.
- 58:55Yeah. Just a lot of great content.
- 58:59I mean listen, as I've said like turning point as an or turning
- 59:04Point as an organization I think is pretty good.
- 59:06I I think shmuly could be. I've better had of TPUSA than
- 59:12Charlie Kirk. I don't know.
- 59:14I I wholeheartedly disagree and I and I'll tell you why I I look
- 59:21up to the guy would never want to remove him from head unless
- 59:25something crazy came out or something new.
- 59:28He built this organization when there's basically next to
- 59:31nothing. I have had consistent problems
- 59:34with the fact that the conservative movement seem or
- 59:38the. The Republican Party seems very
- 59:43up and hip and and engaged and and good on tack if if we assume
- 59:47that the year is still 1943. Yep, they're building an app.
- 59:54They're getting activists connected.
- 59:57Presumably he said that he's working with other organizations
- 1:00:01to. To get some good young people
- 1:00:05vetted so that they're ready to go with a resume and they can be
- 1:00:08recommended by institutions that somebody like Donald Trump or
- 1:00:12DeSantis, Yeah, back end would see so that they can get in
- 1:00:15positions that would be advantageous for us to give them
- 1:00:18in the government. They're also working on getting
- 1:00:22people out for ballot harvesting.
- 1:00:27Right, Yeah. Yeah, that's so.
- 1:00:29And that's huge. So like.
- 1:00:31I they're the one organization that I can say is like actually
- 1:00:34achieving tangible like political.
- 1:00:37Rights. And so I would not degrade this
- 1:00:41guy while he's winning. And he's he's done a hell of a
- 1:00:44job with all of that. He's irreplaceable.
- 1:00:47I get that, like you've had some issues with his decisions in the
- 1:00:50past, and that's very fair criticism.
- 1:00:52But the reason I think you keep bringing it up is because you're
- 1:00:55trying to give the guy credit now and saying that they've
- 1:00:58really turned it around in a lot of ways.
- 1:01:00Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:01:01And and that that is, that is where I that is where I am.
- 1:01:06That is exactly where I'm coming from.
- 1:01:08And if he fucks it up, we'll be, we'll be, we don't care, we'll
- 1:01:11criticize. Right, right.
- 1:01:14Yeah. Right.
- 1:01:16All, all I'm all I'm saying is that, you know I think I think
- 1:01:20the organization as a whole is actually way better than it was.
- 1:01:24You know when I I'll. Say this.
- 1:01:28Getting their ass kicked by the gropers a few years ago, which
- 1:01:32they did. Yeah.
- 1:01:34Has turned them around completely.
- 1:01:36They suddenly realized that they were out of they might not they
- 1:01:39they didn't realize oh we're out of touch with the young people
- 1:01:43because of what these people are doing.
- 1:01:45They. I'm I'm sure they really quickly
- 1:01:47realize that the gropers don't represent that young demographic
- 1:01:50entirely but. They did seem to wake him up to
- 1:01:54like we do need to be in touch because we're a student
- 1:01:57organization primarily. We do need to be with our
- 1:02:01fingers on the pulse of what's going on in conservatism, and
- 1:02:04they seem to have been lazy focused ever since.
- 1:02:08And so, Griper War 2, total absolute nuclear annihilation of
- 1:02:14America first. T.
- 1:02:16PUSA wins no contest. Flawless victory.
- 1:02:22Total. Total Kirk victory, so total.
- 1:02:28Ripper death. Not as catchy as total vicars
- 1:02:31victory, but you get the I you get the idea.
- 1:02:35So. And then yeah, so the the
- 1:02:39devolution of Fuentes. Now he gets to be in a shit
- 1:02:43flinging contest with the person that met most people on the
- 1:02:48Internet who know of him, considered detestable.
- 1:02:50Good. I hope they all fucking shit all
- 1:02:53over each other. Ruin each other forever.
- 1:02:55Nobody even fucking cares what happens to him.
- 1:02:59No, at this point, it's at this point.
- 1:03:02The only reason why that's fun to watch is because like both
- 1:03:07sides are just equally detestable and so it's like it's
- 1:03:10like watching 2 rats cannibal like eat each other.
- 1:03:15Well, and and people on Twitter. And I've even seen like Cog kind
- 1:03:20of misunderstand what's going on.
- 1:03:23People on Twitter are supporting Ralph in this.
- 1:03:25That's because Ralph is not as bad as as America First.
- 1:03:30Ralph is nowhere near as bad as Nick Fuentes.
- 1:03:33And the reason I say that is because Ralph is mostly harming
- 1:03:35himself, his girlfriends, his exwife, his current wife, his
- 1:03:41children, whereas Nick Fuentes is poisoning hundreds if not
- 1:03:45thousands of young men. To become completely politically
- 1:03:49neutered for the rest of their life and never able to
- 1:03:52accomplish anything in the political arena, he's taking
- 1:03:56them off the playing field before.
- 1:03:58They not just not just politically neutered, but I
- 1:04:01would say like neutered as far as like their role in society
- 1:04:07goes. To.
- 1:04:09And taking advantage of my pedophiles that hang around
- 1:04:12there, let's not even fucking be around the Bush.
- 1:04:15Yeah. This guy's asking underage young
- 1:04:18America First members for fucking Dick pics like an
- 1:04:22absolute piece of shit. Nick Fuentes still still
- 1:04:24protects him. So yeah, these people are in the
- 1:04:27sewer, you know, and and so people are rooting for Ethan
- 1:04:33Ralph to defeat them because everybody knows.
- 1:04:37And this is what this is where I think Cog and some other people
- 1:04:39have made a mistake. They're like, why are you guys
- 1:04:42supporting Ethan Ralph? Because Ralph will destroy
- 1:04:44himself. Too.
- 1:04:47We don't. Like if he takes them out on the
- 1:04:50way out, it's a win for everybody.
- 1:04:51Because everybody knows that Ethan Ralph cannot stay out of
- 1:04:55his own fucking way to save his life.
- 1:04:57Literally. No.
- 1:05:01Let let them fight. I, I, yeah, I've even promoted
- 1:05:04some. Like, yeah, go get him, Ralph, a
- 1:05:06male. Because fuck those people.
- 1:05:08And then he's just going to get fucked in court.
- 1:05:11He's going to end up on a drug charge or something like this.
- 1:05:14He's going to wake up fucking dead.
- 1:05:16And. Whatever.
- 1:05:17Like, even Ralph, I don't know why anybody thinks like, if you
- 1:05:21say, oh, go get him, Ralph, that equates to like Ralph is going
- 1:05:25to be good and we're his fans now.
- 1:05:27That's not what's going on. And the only the only reason
- 1:05:30people think that is because their autism is too severe.
- 1:05:34Sorry, Cog, I I literally have invited Cog on the show and
- 1:05:38like, I have nothing against him but his take on that.
- 1:05:40I think he's just kind of missing some nuance.
- 1:05:43Well, I mean also, and Cog will admit this too, he does like a
- 1:05:48lot of these people on the I mean, Jesse admits that this
- 1:05:53too, but like politics, they don't people.
- 1:05:56Don't. People in that sector of the
- 1:05:59Internet don't pay attention to politics.
- 1:06:02The problem. The problem is, and this goes
- 1:06:06back to Milo, Milo is political, right?
- 1:06:11Or was. And he was the one that brought
- 1:06:14a lot of these Internet people into the whole political sphere,
- 1:06:19which is kind of how I got. Well, that and also Owen
- 1:06:23Benjamin was more my intro to kind of the the.
- 1:06:28The. The two the two things have
- 1:06:30merged with like Dissident Right Wing kind of discourse and like
- 1:06:36this low cow, they call it the sector or whatever.
- 1:06:38That's how I only know about Ethan Ralph, because I hate the
- 1:06:41fucking Nick Floyd test so much. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:06:44I had to get caught up on the lore, and that's probably why I
- 1:06:48have different takes. Like I talked to, I talked to,
- 1:06:51or I see what Mr. Vicker says and I'm like, yeah, this seems
- 1:06:54like a normal fucking dad. You know, but like, Katie Farms
- 1:06:58is like, oh, he's the worst person ever.
- 1:07:00He's worse than Ralph. And I'm like, I you're wrong,
- 1:07:04you know, like, whatever. But it's really weird.
- 1:07:08And yeah, they don't care about politics.
- 1:07:10They also don't care about Ralph is what I'm trying to say.
- 1:07:12Like, they're not like, oh, we're we suddenly love him even
- 1:07:15though we've spent years, you know, fucking with him.
- 1:07:19No, they just want to see the shit show.
- 1:07:21So they don't care about the political reasons like we do.
- 1:07:24But they know that Nick Fuentes is gay, cat boy, Mexican leader
- 1:07:28of the fucking child, white race or whatever, and that.
- 1:07:31And so they fucking want to see him fall just as much as anybody
- 1:07:34else. And they know that Ethan Ralph,
- 1:07:37you say what you want, but when it comes to slinging mud, he's
- 1:07:41probably the the, the best that there is from the top on down.
- 1:07:46Nobody is shittier scummier. Nobody will go lower.
- 1:07:51Nobody will docs more, Nobody will flag more.
- 1:07:55Nobody will fucking threaten to show up at your fucking aquarium
- 1:07:59where you work. Like Ethan Ralph, he is
- 1:08:02undeniably somebody that you don't want to get into a shit
- 1:08:06fleeing contest with. And that is why they're rooting
- 1:08:10for him, Because they want to see him fling his shit all over
- 1:08:15these cocky little bastards and then they know.
- 1:08:19That he's going to quietly go die of alcoholism and Xanax or
- 1:08:24whatever. Else and in me in meanwhile,
- 1:08:27like from a political perspective, like I'm looking at
- 1:08:30this as political saying, oh good, now Nick is preoccupied
- 1:08:36with that bullshit so the rest of us who are serious about
- 1:08:40being political, we can focus on actually trying to move the
- 1:08:44country forward and you know. Have fun with the with the, with
- 1:08:51the Internet weirdos, Nick, you're going to need you're
- 1:08:54going to need that. Yeah, particularly that one.
- 1:08:58Good luck. So he's.
- 1:09:00Already he's already docked like the whole top.
- 1:09:02And I'm not. I'm not trying to draw
- 1:09:04attention. Don't go looking for it.
- 1:09:05But he's docked with names and phone numbers.
- 1:09:07All of their top people like, immediately.
- 1:09:10The same fucking day all this happened, their shit was all
- 1:09:13over Telegram. He ain't fucking around.
- 1:09:16He he knows where a lot of the bodies are buried and he's
- 1:09:19fucking talking about it and like good, you know, that's
- 1:09:23that's let them all burn each other to the fucking ground.
- 1:09:27But, but but do I think that for one second the fucking Mick
- 1:09:31Fuentes and and those guys are going to win this fight?
- 1:09:34No. No.
- 1:09:36Not at all. The the only other thing I will
- 1:09:39say to kind of on this just kind of as an aside is.
- 1:09:45You know, I think people know that I have a that I sometimes
- 1:09:50stutter on occasion on the show. But you know, and I even made,
- 1:09:57I've even made fun of myself to a certain extent.
- 1:10:00But folks, I I have to tell you, it is inspiring to me that even
- 1:10:06with the stutter, I can do a show pretty randomly.
- 1:10:09Because there's. This there's this weirdo.
- 1:10:12Guy. Named Jesse Lee Peterson, who I
- 1:10:18guess is a like black pastor or something, I'm not sure really
- 1:10:23he. Gained notoriety quite a few
- 1:10:26years. See I I kind of have a soft spot
- 1:10:29for Jesse Lee. He he gained notoriety because
- 1:10:33he had blown the fuck out a communist in a debate and it
- 1:10:38became like a viral video which he then kind of spun off into
- 1:10:41his show. Which is fairly successful but
- 1:10:44it's fairly successful because he has some really like how do I
- 1:10:49say this without faming the guy he's look he's not the brightest
- 1:10:53person in the world OK and but he but but when it comes to like
- 1:10:57some real shit he can he can point to some real things he get
- 1:11:01he actually because he had Ethan Ralph on today he gave Ethan
- 1:11:04some good advice. But it's not going to matter.
- 1:11:07But he also had some like ridiculous takes like all women
- 1:11:10or devil worshippers or. Whatever but I.
- 1:11:13Expect him to say that. I don't think, I don't think
- 1:11:16it's. I don't think it's out of mind
- 1:11:18for me to say that he does have some, he does have some
- 1:11:23misogynistic. Like I'm not talking like third
- 1:11:27wave feminist you know terms either.
- 1:11:30I mean like he does have like some legit misogynistic.
- 1:11:35You know tags you have to. Understand from where he's
- 1:11:38coming in and where he's coming from is is the Christian
- 1:11:41understanding of the story of Garden, the Garden of Eden, and
- 1:11:45that it was Eve that first fell to temptation and that sin his
- 1:11:49is is more more ingrained on women than on men.
- 1:11:54That's his belief. I'm not.
- 1:11:55I don't. I don't.
- 1:11:56Take that. But that's his belief, and
- 1:11:59because of that, that women are more easily influenced by the
- 1:12:02devil, essentially. And because of that, he says
- 1:12:06stuff like that, which is not as nuanced as his actual position
- 1:12:10kind of is. Right?
- 1:12:13And it gets more clicks though. And he knows it.
- 1:12:16Like The thing is, he's not as dumb as I kind of said, he leans
- 1:12:19into the dumb guy thing because it gets him attention.
- 1:12:23So if you don't understand all that, what you would see is a
- 1:12:25guy that seems dumb, who says ridiculous shit, but then also
- 1:12:29gives good advice. And.
- 1:12:31Yes, stutter's way worse than Sam.
- 1:12:34That guy is something else. I mean the the the brilliance of
- 1:12:39playing the dumb guy thing in the interviews is the best thing
- 1:12:43ever. And as an appreciator of like a
- 1:12:45deadpan and this and like Max described the entire setup, it's
- 1:12:51it's perfectly catered to me. It is does it?
- 1:12:56It is entertaining. I I I won't deny.
- 1:12:59That well in part of the dumb guy thing is is alluring in the
- 1:13:03guest, right? Because like they usually the
- 1:13:07guests he has on don't watch his fucking show.
- 1:13:10So they don't know that he's actually a lot smarter than he
- 1:13:13lets on in some ways, even if he does have these.
- 1:13:17Offbeat. Beliefs.
- 1:13:18So, like he he does the dumb guy thing and then he'll ask like a
- 1:13:21really insightful question and they're the guest is just like.
- 1:13:25What just happened? And then he'll be like Beta.
- 1:13:28He called. He called Ralph of Beta.
- 1:13:32Both of them. Both of them times.
- 1:13:34Like that, that was. That was.
- 1:13:36The surprising thing, too is there were like, there were
- 1:13:39times when like he would where he would where he would, like,
- 1:13:42openly criticize Ralph. And like he brought up things
- 1:13:46that like like a bunch of people have brought up to Ralph and
- 1:13:51Ralph has blown up. Has blown up at these people
- 1:13:54like previously, right. But like I will give Jesse Lee
- 1:13:58Peterson this. Like Jesse Lee Peterson was the
- 1:14:02only one to kind of like, you know, correctly criticize Ralph.
- 1:14:08You know, I'm like, you know, I think you might have like some
- 1:14:11substance abuse, you know, problems and you probably need
- 1:14:15to you know move on from your mom's death after two years and
- 1:14:20you know, and. Things that would have usually,
- 1:14:22you know, made Ralph's Spiral and you know, shoot back like
- 1:14:26Ralph was actually going to like, you know, you might
- 1:14:29actually be right, whether or not Ralph.
- 1:14:32I think part of that is that Ralph understands the gimmick
- 1:14:38that I'm talking about. Ralph is like, oh, this guy's
- 1:14:40not all that bright. So I'm going to give him more of
- 1:14:43the benefit of it out. He he is, though.
- 1:14:45He did that on purpose so that he could say those things like,
- 1:14:49yeah, he's not. Like he comes off dumb and in
- 1:14:52sometimes I I believe it, but like other times it's tough.
- 1:14:56It's tough to put a read on Jesse Lee and that's why he's
- 1:14:59fantastic. He is.
- 1:15:01He is kind of like Norm MacDonald in that way too,
- 1:15:04because I mean Norm Norm did the same thing where he would like
- 1:15:09where he would intentionally like, you know, act like aloof
- 1:15:13or dumb and then he would say something incredibly.
- 1:15:21Smart. So yeah.
- 1:15:25Yeah, it works, right? It throws people through a loop.
- 1:15:28And because he's been doing it so long and he's so good at
- 1:15:32lulling them into thinking, OK, this guy's just dumb.
- 1:15:36He doesn't know. And then he gets one of those,
- 1:15:38like, you really need to get past your mother's death because
- 1:15:41you do. And then all of a sudden it's
- 1:15:44like, Oh yeah, but he's dumb, so I'll give him a pass.
- 1:15:48Even Ralph falls for it. That was brilliant.
- 1:15:51But yeah, he started way worse than Sam.
- 1:15:53Just for the record. Yeah, like I could kind of
- 1:15:57understand it. But there were other times where
- 1:16:00I was like, geez, this guy's. And see, I wasn't much to the
- 1:16:07GLP. Like, I've seen clips, but this
- 1:16:08is the first time I actually watched an entire show of his
- 1:16:12and I was like. I was like, holy.
- 1:16:15I was like holy crap, this whole this guy's entire thing, God
- 1:16:19bless him, but this guy basically speaks in his stutter
- 1:16:23and he's and he's pretty successful, so more power to
- 1:16:29him, I guess. Yeah, I mean, he does his thing.
- 1:16:34I like that he's out there and it was an interesting setting.
- 1:16:39The thing is, is that's how he does everybody's interview.
- 1:16:43He loads them in and then they say something and he points out
- 1:16:47how it makes him a beta and then he and then he rips on him for a
- 1:16:52few things. But because he does it in his
- 1:16:55way, nobody gets mad at him except left.
- 1:16:59Yeah, lefties get mad at him. Lefties call in.
- 1:17:01If you get the chance to listen to some of his Collins, where he
- 1:17:04where he debates leftist. Those are really funny.
- 1:17:08Yeah, no, I I I I have seen a few of those I I do think.
- 1:17:11I do think that he is intentionally funny though too.
- 1:17:14Like yeah, there is, there is a lot.
- 1:17:17He's a character. Yeah, JLP does have like a level
- 1:17:21of self-awareness too, that. Yeah.
- 1:17:23You know to a certain. He, he knows he's a bit of a low
- 1:17:27cow. He just leans into it, just
- 1:17:29which is, you know, more power to him, God bless him, you know,
- 1:17:34he's doing, he's doing something else out there and I love it.
- 1:17:38So. Everybody's got their own thing
- 1:17:40and and he's got that niche locked down.
- 1:17:44Yeah, Speaking of, you know, getting things locked down, Max,
- 1:17:51I am. I'm kind of tired of this, but,
- 1:17:54like, how many Trump indictments and arrests are we up to now?
- 1:17:59Like, I. 70 plus there's 70 plus already indicted.
- 1:18:07And yeah, they're hinting at the the Well, OK, so Trump said that
- 1:18:14the Department of Justice sent him a memo saying that they plan
- 1:18:18to indict him for January 6th just generally just for trying
- 1:18:26to overturn the election or something.
- 1:18:31Isn't when that when did that be double jeopardy or something,
- 1:18:34though? Didn't they try?
- 1:18:35That impeachment is not the same, so it's not.
- 1:18:41Unfortunately, impeachment does not count as a trial and
- 1:18:45therefore is not subject to the double Jeopardy rules because
- 1:18:48the standards of both evidence and conviction are different.
- 1:18:51So no, it's not, as much as I'd love it to be, It's not double
- 1:18:56Jeopardy. Is it a good case?
- 1:19:01I I really don't think so. It.
- 1:19:04I mean it. It and like I'm not mad at Trump
- 1:19:07at all for any of this. Like I'm this isn't even a
- 1:19:11criticism of Trump. This is this is actually
- 1:19:13criticism of kind of the justice system in like what a kangaroo
- 1:19:17court it's become. Because it's like now like at
- 1:19:22this point I hardly thinks that there one way just try and
- 1:19:25confuse the hell out. Out of us because like I like I
- 1:19:32heard that they're. They're using, they're using a
- 1:19:34shotgun to to to shoot at like a pin, right?
- 1:19:41Oh yeah. So 70 plus indictments and I
- 1:19:43guarantee you whatever this indictment is, it's not going to
- 1:19:46be one, it's going to be 30 charges because they're they're
- 1:19:50using a spam shotgun method of. Indict on every possible thing
- 1:19:55ever so that juries get you're right about the confusion thing.
- 1:19:59It's not to confuse the public, it's to confuse a jury.
- 1:20:02Any jury that hears this now has to not just rule on one
- 1:20:06indictment, 1 charge, but 35. That's the point, right?
- 1:20:12And it gets harder and harder. There are just 12 people.
- 1:20:16Generally, the regular people, most jurors have jobs that
- 1:20:19they're taking time off for, and the compensation you get for a
- 1:20:22trial sucks, right? It's not, it's not going to
- 1:20:26replace working. You can't just quit work and be
- 1:20:29a professional juror, even if that was like a thing you could
- 1:20:31do, like they give you like $12.00 for the day to get like
- 1:20:35lunch, you know what I mean? So it's it's it's pretty rough.
- 1:20:39They don't want to be there on who wants to be on a jury,
- 1:20:42right? Only weirdos want to be on a
- 1:20:44jury. And then you have to rule on 34
- 1:20:48separate cases, Meaning when you're you're in deliberations,
- 1:20:51you have to discuss each case. It's a fucking pain in the ass,
- 1:20:56and they're hoping that because it's such a pain in the ass that
- 1:20:59the juries will just convict him.
- 1:21:01That's what the whole point of this strategy is.
- 1:21:04And then if they convict him on some minor charge, the Democrats
- 1:21:08in the the Senate in particular, are going to try and pass
- 1:21:12something to ban him from running for president.
- 1:21:14This is the whole strategy. Shoot as many indictments out as
- 1:21:18possible and hope that one or two fucking charges stick, and
- 1:21:23then pass a law that says he can't run for president.
- 1:21:26That's that's what they're trying to do, because they know
- 1:21:31he's going to win. Anybody, anybody tells me, oh,
- 1:21:34Trump can't win? DeSantis is our guy.
- 1:21:37Why do why do the Democrats think that Trump can win?
- 1:21:39Then tell me that one. Who told me that, Batman.
- 1:21:43Someone in one I, someone in one I group chats who I guess is
- 1:21:48watching said that they're using the spray and pray method and
- 1:21:51yeah that that that's exactly that's exactly it's it's the
- 1:21:55spray and pray method just fires.
- 1:21:58Fire as many bullets as you can randomly, and hope that one of
- 1:22:02them hits Trump. The thing is, though,
- 1:22:05Republicans have the House so that they can't actually pass
- 1:22:08this law, this mythical law to get.
- 1:22:11I guess if you could convince some of House Republicans to
- 1:22:14vote, maybe you could get a majority that way.
- 1:22:16I get maybe they're banking on like the 10% of Never Trumpers
- 1:22:19or whatever, but like, I wouldn't, it seems like, if
- 1:22:25that's their whole strategy. One, it's made Trump more
- 1:22:28popular than ever. Like I can, I'll tell you this I
- 1:22:31can attribute Desantis's decline to a lot of decisions on the
- 1:22:35part of his campaign. And we have.
- 1:22:38But. Nothing caused him to drop more
- 1:22:42and Trump to rise more in the polls than the first time that
- 1:22:46they indicted him and and it's it's backfiring and so that now
- 1:22:53it's do or die they have to get him disqualified.
- 1:22:57They don't care about anything else.
- 1:22:59And I'll go one further. I think a lot in the Dem
- 1:23:02establishment, like the DNC were willing to let De Santis win
- 1:23:07over Biden just to get rid of Trump.
- 1:23:10And that, I think, is where a lot of De Santis is support
- 1:23:14financially comes from. Yeah.
- 1:23:17And and look, I have I can't track down every donation to De
- 1:23:21Santis and find out what their loyalties are.
- 1:23:24But I bet you somebody with the autism to pull that off would
- 1:23:27just verify exactly what I just said that.
- 1:23:31It's a lot of. Like center left, like type
- 1:23:34Democrats that are sick of Biden because he's just been so
- 1:23:38incompetent he's fucked everything up.
- 1:23:41They say we could take four years of a DeSantis, but we
- 1:23:44can't have. Trump.
- 1:23:46Yeah, that. That, yeah.
- 1:23:47And then they're just. I think that.
- 1:23:49And then I think they're just adding people and like Mike
- 1:23:52Pence to. You know, to muddy the, to muddy
- 1:23:56the waters as well as. Saying I know Rupert Murdoch has
- 1:23:59been saying Glenn Youngkin from Virginia should get in too they
- 1:24:02because Murdoch has apparently lost faith in DeSantis and he
- 1:24:07doesn't like Trump. Yeah, they're trying to get
- 1:24:10whoever, anything that will work.
- 1:24:12They did this. They did this before, remember?
- 1:24:14Like Ed Mcmuffin or whatever, the fucking ran independent to
- 1:24:17try and take votes from Trump. Oh yeah.
- 1:24:22Oh yeah. That's CIA spook or whatever.
- 1:24:24Yeah. But here's the problem they have
- 1:24:26on the left with that, Cornell West is running.
- 1:24:31Cornell West is going to take Bernie voters away from Biden.
- 1:24:35Like 100%. And black voters probably too.
- 1:24:39Maybe not 100% of the black vote, but dude, if if 10% of
- 1:24:44black people say fuck it, I'm voting for.
- 1:24:48Cornell West instead of Biden. That's enough to swing the
- 1:24:51election in time. Listen and you know I, I know
- 1:24:56even critical of I, I mean I know we've both been critical of
- 1:25:00the Kennedys. But like even white, even white
- 1:25:04liberals who I know are like now being like I actually had one
- 1:25:10like text me there the other day like Sam you're actually.
- 1:25:15And it was like really out of the blue like when I.
- 1:25:18Like old here's like Sam, you know, you're actually right
- 1:25:22about like the corporate media and how bad they are.
- 1:25:25And I'm like, what do you mean? Like, yes, thank you.
- 1:25:28I know I might be like, what do you mean?
- 1:25:30And they're like the New York Times is slant is slanding RFK.
- 1:25:35So is the Kennedy family now that I have.
- 1:25:37Yeah. Been kind of surprised by.
- 1:25:40That's a very unique thing the Kennedy family has never
- 1:25:44attacked internally before. Joe Kennedy, the third denounced
- 1:25:49his uncle as Patrick Kennedy had some choice words.
- 1:25:54So yeah, they're turning against him.
- 1:25:56Here's the thing Sam, though I it's still a non factor because
- 1:25:59he can't win that primary and I I'll tell you this.
- 1:26:02Right now. He.
- 1:26:03Is he is not running third party 100%?
- 1:26:07No, I I no, I know that I'm and I'm not saying you should, but
- 1:26:11what I am saying I. I think he should, but.
- 1:26:17Because if he runs third party, he's going to take Biden votes.
- 1:26:19So yeah, I think he should go ahead.
- 1:26:23Sorry. Well.
- 1:26:27You're saying he's waking people on the left up to to the
- 1:26:30corporate media problem, which is good, yes?
- 1:26:33Yeah. And and that and that and that's
- 1:26:36and I would and that's kind of what I've said too.
- 1:26:39It was like that's why the that's why the left hates.
- 1:26:44Hates him now as well is because like and that's why they hate.
- 1:26:50I don't know if you saw this clip but but the left is
- 1:26:53actually now kind of de ranking Bill Maher clips now too because
- 1:26:59Bill Maher on his podcast he had Ice Cube on and Bill Maher's.
- 1:27:07Watched the bill. Maher Ice Cube interview, by the
- 1:27:10way it's it's it's show exactly what I'm saying about Ice Cube.
- 1:27:14He is. He is a real one.
- 1:27:16Well well and maybe was I think maybe was the RFK interview
- 1:27:20where where where Bill actually said this but at one point Bill
- 1:27:23actually said you know I don't like Trump I think he's crazy.
- 1:27:29But I I I get it why people like him because the the left has
- 1:27:35gone so far woke that it's insane like I and I could.
- 1:27:40The fact that Bill Maher was saying, like, I get why people
- 1:27:43like Trump, the corporate media is like, no, no, no, no, no, we
- 1:27:47can't have that. So now they're trying to derank
- 1:27:50Bill Maher too. You are here, Bill Maher
- 1:27:54endorsing Trump and voting for them is about here.
- 1:27:58We're on. We're almost to that fucking
- 1:28:00point. Bill Maher will probably vote
- 1:28:05for Trump if Biden is the nominee again.
- 1:28:09Which he will be. That.
- 1:28:12Unless if if if he dies or is incapacitated, Biden won't be
- 1:28:17the the nominee. But in any other circumstance,
- 1:28:19you bet your fucking ass he's going to be.
- 1:28:22Which what? Which wasn't him dying or being
- 1:28:25incapacitated is not that like people's joke.
- 1:28:30But that's not that farfetched either because.
- 1:28:34I wouldn't say that if he was 62, okay, but he's going to be.
- 1:28:39In his 80s as the president and in a second term.
- 1:28:44Yeah, well, we're talking. In a different animal, here he
- 1:28:46is you. You talk about his dementia and
- 1:28:49stuff and people with his who is his faculties, but in terms of
- 1:28:53his physical health, he's pretty good for a guy his age, like
- 1:28:57anybody who says otherwise is lying.
- 1:28:59Well, and also, and also though, didn't he?
- 1:29:02Didn't he say something like I there's that club, but I can't.
- 1:29:06I don't know the exact phrasing you use, but like.
- 1:29:09He basically said that like if he needed to, he would basically
- 1:29:13just like disappear and like it that basically like if his
- 1:29:18handlers told him to disappear that he would and then Kamala
- 1:29:22could take. He's not that that.
- 1:29:25I don't think that's the case at all because the DNC didn't want
- 1:29:30him to run. The average Democrat voter
- 1:29:32didn't want him to run. The far left doesn't want him to
- 1:29:36run. The Greens don't want him to
- 1:29:38run. But they've all acknowledged,
- 1:29:40just like in 2020, he's going to be the guy.
- 1:29:43And that's why I flooded our gilded server last night with
- 1:29:46all these Joe Biden dark branded meme.
- 1:29:49You're so bad, dog. Oh, oh, I was.
- 1:29:53That's what that was. I was thinking to ask you like
- 1:29:57that. I was thinking to ask you like
- 1:30:00off air, like what that was. But like, yeah, I I was
- 1:30:03wondering, I'm like, Max, you should.
- 1:30:06Max, you just. Like Max, you just autistically
- 1:30:09shit hose like this. At least my experience.
- 1:30:11But yeah, you were. We were.
- 1:30:13I was looking at Dark Brandon was trending on Twitter and I
- 1:30:17was looking at these memes and I was like these motherfuckers
- 1:30:19can't be serious and and yeah they paint him as like it's it's
- 1:30:25a rip on Dark Maga and let's go Brandon and the left thinks it's
- 1:30:29some kind of like own it's fucked up dog.
- 1:30:33I don't know they're they can't meme.
- 1:30:37Well, no. Well, no.
- 1:30:39They can't. They can't mean but I I
- 1:30:41ironically. Some of them are hilarious
- 1:30:44though. Yeah.
- 1:30:45Oh, there's one where they, like, made him look like the
- 1:30:48fucking crypt keeper with glowing eyes.
- 1:30:50And I'm like, you think that you think that's a good look?
- 1:30:54I mean it's it's like a it's like a the the younger folks
- 1:31:00won't remember this. But I mean, MAD magazine used to
- 1:31:03be a thing. I don't know if you have.
- 1:31:05I actually had a subscription to Mad Mag, and I shoot you not as
- 1:31:09one of those dark Brandon memes. I sent a few of them to my mom,
- 1:31:13to my mom, and she's like, are these the old, like, did the old
- 1:31:18writers from, like, Mad Magazine make these up?
- 1:31:22And I'm like. Because famously, the the
- 1:31:24illustrations in Mad Magazine, again for the younger audience,
- 1:31:27I loved Mad Magazine as well. Were were all these like
- 1:31:31grotesque versions of the people that they were trying to draw?
- 1:31:35And that is the style that these people are making.
- 1:31:38Pro Joe. Those were all pro Joe Biden
- 1:31:42except one. There was only one, and it was a
- 1:31:45one that I won't repeat what it says because it was a little too
- 1:31:48gross regarding his, his daughter or whatever.
- 1:31:52But all the other ones, everyone except that one I posted and I
- 1:31:55posted like we're pro Joe Biden memes.
- 1:32:01And you can tell by reading the pro Joe Biden people's posts.
- 1:32:05And yeah, Twitter's like, not reality.
- 1:32:08It's not the real world. But you talk to people in the
- 1:32:10real world, everybody's like, fuck Joe Biden.
- 1:32:12I know people who are hard leftists that are like fuck Joe
- 1:32:15Biden. Like everybody fucking hate you
- 1:32:18because he's he's been useless. But they know that's who they're
- 1:32:21stuck with and so they're going to support him.
- 1:32:25And so no, also they're stuck with it because he.
- 1:32:30Despite all advice to the contrary, including his socalled
- 1:32:34handlers, everybody says, oh, he doesn't make decisions for
- 1:32:36himself. Everybody was saying Joe needs
- 1:32:38to step aside and either let Kamala be the nominee.
- 1:32:42She'd still have to win the primary, by the way, he he can
- 1:32:45just use super delegates, but she would have to win the
- 1:32:48primary. And now if they start a primary
- 1:32:51now, Oh my God, right, there's no primary, right?
- 1:32:55I know everybody's RFKRFKRFK. There is no primary.
- 1:32:59There is. There is a protest candidate.
- 1:33:02There's always a protest candidate and that's it.
- 1:33:06RFK is the protest candidate for the left.
- 1:33:08He has no I I don't think he has any misgivings that he's going
- 1:33:13to win either, right? No.
- 1:33:16But there's not going to be a primary.
- 1:33:18Joe Biden's going to get the nomination and it's because he
- 1:33:21wants it. And that's where we are in.
- 1:33:24The left is not happy about it, but they have to fucking take
- 1:33:26that one on the chin. Meanwhile, because they know a
- 1:33:30Trump Biden rematch means that they got to do a lot more
- 1:33:33cheating this time, because now we've figured out that you need
- 1:33:38to ballot harvest, since that's the rules of the fucking game
- 1:33:41we're fucking building. As Jumuli mentioned earlier,
- 1:33:44TPUSA building a ground game. There's organizations, Young
- 1:33:49Students For Liberty, all of these groups that are forming
- 1:33:53local ballot harvesting operations because that's how
- 1:33:56the game is played now. So they need to like ballot
- 1:34:00harvesting isn't going to be enough.
- 1:34:02They need to cheat like it's fucking like they've never
- 1:34:05cheated before, or Trump is inevitable.
- 1:34:09Those those are the only two options.
- 1:34:11And it and it's not it's not in that because you're mentioning
- 1:34:14like TPOUSA and Young Americans for Liberty and all these like
- 1:34:18and and yeah like like the the base is the base is energized
- 1:34:25now for sure in a way that like. My one big criticism in 2020
- 1:34:31was, yeah, the election was stolen, but also I don't think
- 1:34:37the base was as energized in 2020 as it was in 2016.
- 1:34:42And I've consistently. People were afraid to vote in
- 1:34:45person at first, right? Yeah.
- 1:34:48Like, like people pretend like we get this revisionist history
- 1:34:51about 2020. Where it's like, Oh no, you know
- 1:34:54it was Democrats voted in in mail in ballots.
- 1:34:57No, a lot of Republicans voted that way too.
- 1:35:00A lot of them, not the majority, but a lot of them.
- 1:35:02That's why Trump came out early and was like you should vote in
- 1:35:05person or they're going to fucking steal your votes.
- 1:35:08And yeah, we now there's they are not going to be able to pull
- 1:35:13that shit this time. So the mail in ballot thing,
- 1:35:15yeah, some states we got it. Some states have fixed some of
- 1:35:18the fuckery. But.
- 1:35:21We're looking at a different ball game.
- 1:35:23And again, we didn't do the ballot harvesting in particular
- 1:35:26because Republicans, and I've been saying this since the
- 1:35:29goddamn 90s, OK, Republicans have been so afraid of ballot
- 1:35:34harvesting because it's bad and it's it's awful and it's
- 1:35:37basically cheating that they've actually lost more than that one
- 1:35:41election. If if you said, if you said
- 1:35:442020, they lost because of ballot harvesting.
- 1:35:46And that was it. And there was no cheating and
- 1:35:49that was just it. That wouldn't be the first time
- 1:35:52a Republican lost because of ballot harvesting.
- 1:35:55In fact, Bill Clinton won both times because of ballot
- 1:35:59harvesting, and so did Barack Obama.
- 1:36:01So we need to If that's the rules of the game, you're not
- 1:36:06fucking cheating. You're playing by the fucking
- 1:36:09rules. You let the other guy.
- 1:36:12It's like if the game is tagged right and everybody knows how to
- 1:36:17play tag right. It's real simple.
- 1:36:19You know I tag you and you're it.
- 1:36:21Then you tag the next guy and he's it.
- 1:36:23Well, but then the next guy that you tagged, he decides that he
- 1:36:27can tag from 5 feet away. But you, you're an honorable tag
- 1:36:32player, right? So you will only do it by touch.
- 1:36:36Well, you're going to fucking lose.
- 1:36:38You're going to fucking look stupid if you let the other guy
- 1:36:41do it. And then you don't engage in the
- 1:36:44same behavior. You're going to lose.
- 1:36:46And that's what we've been doing.
- 1:36:48And Trump is right when he says we need a ballot harvesting
- 1:36:52machine. Because if we don't get into
- 1:36:54power, if we don't take the House and the Senate and the
- 1:36:58White House, then we have no chance of ever reforming the
- 1:37:01ballot harvest laws. And even then it's going to be
- 1:37:04an uphill battle. Because you have to remember the
- 1:37:06people in there, Republican and Democrat, have all gone in on
- 1:37:11ballot harvesting and fucking gerrymandering.
- 1:37:16Right though, that's what they all do.
- 1:37:19Not just the Democrats. They all get in on some level of
- 1:37:23it, especially local or lower level politicians.
- 1:37:26It's a lot harder in the presidential election because of
- 1:37:28the not the scale of it. But yeah, yeah, we need to play
- 1:37:33by the rules that the other side's playing by this bullshit
- 1:37:36of. We have to play by our rules
- 1:37:39that we like. Even though the court said that
- 1:37:41it's fine. Even though we put it through
- 1:37:43the every test, every ringer we've tried to pass, every law
- 1:37:46and everything says that this practice is okay.
- 1:37:50Let's not do it because honor, well, then you want to be
- 1:37:53honorable losers. That's the party of fucking Mitt
- 1:37:56Romney. That's not the party of Donald
- 1:37:57Trump. Right.
- 1:38:01I mean, and I I would also say too that, I mean one of the
- 1:38:04things that Trump has going for him now too is.
- 1:38:07Like the the moderates in the everyday people are going to
- 1:38:14come come out in droves for them again because of.
- 1:38:20Because. Because you're putting fucking
- 1:38:22pornography in in kids schools. Because yeah, all of the things
- 1:38:26we've talked about endlessly, like I I say, these normal
- 1:38:29people that I talk to every day are fucking sick of that shit.
- 1:38:33They're sick of being poor. They're sick of fucking
- 1:38:35inflation. They're sick of stupid little
- 1:38:37petty tyrant shit like you can't have plastic straws and you
- 1:38:41can't have plastic bags and you're not allowed to fucking
- 1:38:44have a gas stoke. People are fucking done with
- 1:38:46this. Shit.
- 1:38:47Yeah, it's it's it's wear a mask.
- 1:38:51It's not just go work, it's gone.
- 1:38:55It's not just go woke, go broke. It's go woke.
- 1:38:59Lose a lose a fucking election now.
- 1:39:03And that's going to, that's going to happen.
- 1:39:07And that's why you get people like Ice Cube who wouldn't
- 1:39:09normally be anywhere near our side.
- 1:39:12Well, he just like us. The if you listen to the man's
- 1:39:16music for years like I have, I'm actually a huge Ice Cube fan.
- 1:39:20Like since I was a kid and like I have all of his fighting
- 1:39:24records and I listen to it. Not even joking, I was listening
- 1:39:27to Ice Cube for fun today. Because it comes up on my
- 1:39:32Spotify playlist. Because I listen to so much Ice
- 1:39:34Cube and West Side Connection and fucking all that shit.
- 1:39:38And I can tell you that the he's been independentminded, somewhat
- 1:39:42libertarian, but on the left. His whole goddamn career and
- 1:39:48anytime Petty tyrant has come along.
- 1:39:50When when when the FBI sent him a letter saying you guys need to
- 1:39:55take your album down or whatever like re like recall the album
- 1:39:59with Fuck the Police on it and some other songs.
- 1:40:02Ice Cube fucking sent back to the FBII don't know if anybody
- 1:40:06knows the story. Ice Cube, Eazy E Doctor Dre and
- 1:40:10MC Ren, the members of End of End DOC was sometimes a member
- 1:40:15as well. They they took a picture of all
- 1:40:17of them together, flipping off the camera and sent it back to
- 1:40:21the FBI. Based.
- 1:40:25Yeah, fucking based. I I didn't.
- 1:40:28I have a pretty big music. But I I never, yeah, I didn't
- 1:40:31know that story. Wow.
- 1:40:33Yeah. Yeah, that's.
- 1:40:35Well, yeah, I mentioned Ice T with the cop killer album,
- 1:40:39right? You had fucking.
- 1:40:42Dan Quayle reading the lyrics to Cop Killer and and you had the
- 1:40:46president denouncing the fucking song and what did Ice T say?
- 1:40:49You're all a bunch of fucking pussies.
- 1:40:52You missed the point of the fucking song.
- 1:40:54And yeah, police brutality is a fucking problem and that you
- 1:40:57trying to censor me doesn't take it away.
- 1:40:59But his record label, not Ice T, his record label, Cocked
- 1:41:03recalled. The album took off the song Cop
- 1:41:07Killer rereleased it. Under a different name because
- 1:41:10the original album name was Cop Killer and so Ice T being the
- 1:41:15badass that he is by the way, it's a body count album which is
- 1:41:18his metal band and they're really fucking dope.
- 1:41:21Replaced it with a song which is an an all time banger in its own
- 1:41:25right and worth having. But I would rather have Cop
- 1:41:28Killer called Freedom of Speech. Check that.
- 1:41:31Turn out these guys. These guys were not corporate
- 1:41:35leftist shills ever in their career.
- 1:41:38And the one thing they've been talking about, whether it be
- 1:41:40police, whether it be, you know, politicians or whatever, since
- 1:41:44since they started Ice Cube Iced Tea, most of the old school
- 1:41:48gangster rap community. Was.
- 1:41:50Petty fucking tyrants. So it's no surprise that when
- 1:41:54you start Petty Tyranting Ice Cube in 2023.
- 1:41:59He's not going to be like, Oh yes, Amassa, let me go get my
- 1:42:03shot so I can have my movie deal.
- 1:42:05He's like, fuck you, my health is worth more money than you
- 1:42:08have, bitch. Well, 11 he one at this point
- 1:42:13too. Like he not only has Fuck You
- 1:42:15money, he has Fuck Me money. So he doesn't.
- 1:42:19And he has fuck you. He has fuck you fucking clout as
- 1:42:22well because they can't cancel Ice Cube.
- 1:42:24He's still out there touring. He's literally while this is
- 1:42:27going on, he's doing a show every night.
- 1:42:29I I also love how like Rage Against the Machine actually
- 1:42:34turned out to be the exact opposite.
- 1:42:39And be and listen, they haven't been Rage Against the Machine
- 1:42:44has been cancelled. But like, no one, no one take
- 1:42:47them seriously anymore. So.
- 1:42:50Rage for the machine, Yeah, it's fucking pathetic.
- 1:42:54Yeah, I mean, you got, you got guys like that.
- 1:42:56It's funny because they would not have put up with petty
- 1:42:59tyrants in 1995. Now they are the petty tyrants.
- 1:43:04But you know, you get some people like Cube T, like
- 1:43:09Roseanne Barr there, there's a big one.
- 1:43:11They tried to cancel her again for making a fucking joke about
- 1:43:14the Holocaust. Hey news flash, motherfucker,
- 1:43:17she's Jewish as fuck. Not just Jewish.
- 1:43:20She spent the last two years like after she got cancelled,
- 1:43:23right? What did Roseanne do?
- 1:43:26She went to Israel. She went to Israel and studied
- 1:43:29yeshiva with the fucking rabbis for two years in in solitude.
- 1:43:33And then she. Back.
- 1:43:35And she made a joke about the fucking You can't talk about the
- 1:43:38stolen election. Just like you can't say that the
- 1:43:40Holocaust didn't happen or whatever.
- 1:43:42And they're like, Oh my God, Roseanne's a Nazi.
- 1:43:46It's like, bitch, do you know anything?
- 1:43:48And also because she's against defending Ukraine.
- 1:43:52And they're like, Oh my God, that's horrible, motherfucker.
- 1:43:56Those Nazis in Ukraine that everybody like, It's kind of a
- 1:43:59meme or whatever, killed her family during the Holocaust.
- 1:44:05Yeah. She's from Ukraine.
- 1:44:08It wasn't the Holocaust, but they they killed, they killed
- 1:44:11them in a like a Holocaust like event.
- 1:44:13I should. Say yeah, yeah.
- 1:44:15Why she and her parents fled to America.
- 1:44:18Like why would she support Ukraine?
- 1:44:22Like. Because that's the current thing
- 1:44:27now. Yeah, and since she's cancelled,
- 1:44:29she should still be doing the current thing.
- 1:44:31It's like fuck you. But she's become an absolute
- 1:44:34savage since she doesn't give a fuck.
- 1:44:36I was just watching a clip of her.
- 1:44:38She now is doing a podcast and giving less of a fuck than ever.
- 1:44:43This is somebody that Normie's listened to some somebody
- 1:44:46they've been watching since they were a kid.
- 1:44:48In my case, I remember The Roseanne Show.
- 1:44:51My my mom actually told me that like, she saw she saw Roseanne.
- 1:44:56Like my mom back during the 80s never went to like comedy clubs
- 1:45:00much when she was in Colorado, but she saw at Roseanne Barr
- 1:45:04when like what? Before Roseanne became like
- 1:45:08really famous on TV? Like I guess Roseanne stopped in
- 1:45:13like one of the local comedy clubs in Denver and my mom and
- 1:45:15some of her work friends at the time.
- 1:45:18We're like, oh, you know, who who's this?
- 1:45:21And I guess they had a really good time and then, yeah, that.
- 1:45:26Well, and and the show, like the original run of the show, is an
- 1:45:30absolute classic and focused heavily on the blue collar
- 1:45:36working class experience which is why it resonated so well with
- 1:45:40people. Famously Norm MacDonald, Head
- 1:45:43Writer on the original run and. When they did the remake, they
- 1:45:46had Norm too. But when they fired Roseanne,
- 1:45:49Norm was like, fuck you and left.
- 1:45:51And then I guess Wanda Sykes became the head writer.
- 1:45:54Can't get much more woke than that.
- 1:45:57Well, well, the the. Funny thing.
- 1:45:59The funny thing about The funny thing about Roseanne going to
- 1:46:04Israel and studying yeshiva for two years is have you ever seen
- 1:46:08the movie The The Big Lebowski? OK, so.
- 1:46:15John Goodman's character Walter from The Big Lebowski, after he
- 1:46:22came back from Vietnam, also went to went to Israel and study
- 1:46:29Ishiba for two years. That's the clip I saw from
- 1:46:32Roseanne today, by the way, was regarding John Goodman.
- 1:46:36They asked her. Oh well, John Goodman came out
- 1:46:40after you get cancelled and said I don't think she's a racist
- 1:46:42and. Roseanne's response to that was
- 1:46:45so fucking based because she was like, yeah, yeah.
- 1:46:47Three months later, after they had signed a deal to take all my
- 1:46:51money and split it between them, then people had something to
- 1:46:54say. But he didn't come out.
- 1:46:55When Michael Fishman attacked me, he didn't come out when?
- 1:46:58What's her face? The daughter Darlene there
- 1:47:02attacked me. He didn't come out for any of
- 1:47:04that. So fuck him.
- 1:47:05I was like, based. Yeah.
- 1:47:07Absolutely based. That that was.
- 1:47:11And I I like John Goodman as an actor, but that was that was
- 1:47:15disappointing. I think he thought he could,
- 1:47:18like redeem himself by saying, look, I I don't think she's
- 1:47:22racist, but I don't like the comment or whatever.
- 1:47:25But no, it doesn't redeem him. She's right.
- 1:47:27She's right. He came out after he had signed
- 1:47:30a deal to cut her out of the show called Fucking Roseanne.
- 1:47:36Well, yeah, that that. I mean, same thing, same thing.
- 1:47:39And. Nobody.
- 1:47:39Watches the fucking show anymore.
- 1:47:41Or or it might be cancelled by now.
- 1:47:43I don't fucking know. Cares.
- 1:47:46Yeah, I think I I think, I think it got, I think it like ran its
- 1:47:50course so. Yeah, well, it's course was like
- 1:47:54one episode beyond when they got rid of her, right?
- 1:47:58I think they, I think they had like, I think they had another
- 1:48:01season. But no, to be fair, they had
- 1:48:04another season. But nobody watched it, yeah.
- 1:48:08Because because the whole point was Roseanne and watching the
- 1:48:11continuation of that story and and yeah, like she worked with
- 1:48:16John Goodman for a lot of fucking years and for him to
- 1:48:20just, oh, well, I'll take her portion of the money because
- 1:48:23she's bad. But then oh, she's not so bad.
- 1:48:25But then OK, give her the give her the money back or say you're
- 1:48:28not going to be a part of the show going forward, right.
- 1:48:31If she's gone, I'm gone. I'd respected that.
- 1:48:35But anybody who said, you know, well, we got to continue to
- 1:48:38show, we got like they would, they would make bullshit excuses
- 1:48:41like, well, the crew, you know, we got to keep the crew employed
- 1:48:45as if shows don't get canceled every fucking year, right?
- 1:48:49Give me a break. Yeah.
- 1:48:52Bunch. Of bullshit excuses, but they
- 1:48:54realize that they can't cancel her again and that she has an
- 1:48:57organic reach because people want to hear what Roseanne has
- 1:48:59to say. Well, and also.
- 1:49:03Because someone, and thank you for reminding me of this.
- 1:49:05Actually because someone on Twitter like a few days ago
- 1:49:09asked me to talk about this. So this whole sag after thing
- 1:49:15has. Complicated.
- 1:49:16Yeah, So here's my take on that whole thing in a nutshell.
- 1:49:23It's really simple. People aren't watching shows
- 1:49:26anymore. They know that.
- 1:49:29They know that streaming. And Hollywood are full of
- 1:49:32bullshit. They're not.
- 1:49:34So the people aren't tuning into shows anymore like this.
- 1:49:39They're watching old stuff, or they're tuning into shows like
- 1:49:45this, podcasts. Yeah, it's like, no, they won't
- 1:49:50be making any new shows or movies.
- 1:49:52Now all we're left with is. Podcasts and video games and
- 1:49:56going outside and having a life and music and old shit.
- 1:50:00Like, yeah, like we got enough entertainment.
- 1:50:03Yeah, they Hollywood could crumble.
- 1:50:06Never make another fucking piece of content till the end of
- 1:50:08fucking time. And I wouldn't give the faintest
- 1:50:11of fucks. Yeah, Oh no.
- 1:50:16People might actually have to read books and go and go to the
- 1:50:20source material for a lot of these things that they love.
- 1:50:26Or they're all going to get fucking.
- 1:50:28They're all going to get replaced by a I and deep fakes,
- 1:50:31you know, whatever, man. Like, yeah, I hope they fucking
- 1:50:35strike so hard. It fucking kills them.
- 1:50:39And that's that's part of what Ice Cube is saying.
- 1:50:42Oh, oh, you want me gone, huh? Yeah, it seems like you might
- 1:50:46need some actors, but I can't because I didn't get the fucking
- 1:50:50jab, bitch. Well, and so, yeah.
- 1:50:53And so people wanted my and so people wanted my breakdown of,
- 1:50:57you know, what's going on. But really, folks, there's
- 1:50:59nothing to break down. People are sick of the
- 1:51:01entertainment industry. They're not paying for anymore.
- 1:51:05And so they're on strike. And yeah, I I'm I'm sure.
- 1:51:12With the writers and then and then because SAG AFTRA is
- 1:51:16writers and actors, the actors joined in in in a sympathy.
- 1:51:21Because because that gives them more clout.
- 1:51:22Like nobody gives a fuck about Hollywood writers, right?
- 1:51:25But people, for some reason people care about their little
- 1:51:29celebrities, so they figured that this would get more
- 1:51:32attention. And the the writers big issue is
- 1:51:35that they're saying that they're not getting paid enough and they
- 1:51:38don't have enough benefits and everybody else in America who
- 1:51:41drives a fucking truck or shovels dirt or fucking does
- 1:51:44real fucking work, you know? They're like fuck you, you know
- 1:51:49you you're getting fucking seven figures a year to write this
- 1:51:53woke trash. I don't actually care about your
- 1:51:56fucking plight. And all you spoiled little
- 1:51:59actors who think that you're Ron Perlman B list fucking baby
- 1:52:05fucking TDs bullshit. Nobody cares, bro.
- 1:52:08Well, there's not the cult COVID.
- 1:52:12The the thing it killed more than people was the culture of
- 1:52:15celebrity worship. Yeah, well, and I can also tell
- 1:52:19you too, the other thing too, with the whole like, writers
- 1:52:22thing is they fired. They fired all of the good
- 1:52:29writers from like, a lot of these movies and TV shows.
- 1:52:33Or to be. Fair.
- 1:52:34A lot. Of weren't woke.
- 1:52:35A lot of the good writers have aged out as well to, to be fair,
- 1:52:39right? Yeah, when you're when you're
- 1:52:41thinking of classics like in the 80s and 90s, most of those
- 1:52:45writers. Aren't writing as much as they
- 1:52:47made their money, they do. They're doing.
- 1:52:50Yeah, that that's true and. You get these new writers and
- 1:52:54they go and they have their gender studies class and their
- 1:52:58casual Marxism class in college and and they get their
- 1:53:01communications degree with a minor in fucking feminist dance
- 1:53:06theory or whatever, and they come in and they write this
- 1:53:09drivel that we fucking see everywhere.
- 1:53:12You know, you could name your fucking pic of all this woke
- 1:53:15fucking bullshit. People don't like it.
- 1:53:18People are streaming it less. That means they're making less
- 1:53:21money because you didn't hear them complaining about getting
- 1:53:23paid off streaming five years ago.
- 1:53:26When it when it was big, right? When Netflix was fucking
- 1:53:28shelling out that big money. Or when all these streaming
- 1:53:32organizations had the streaming wars at first, right.
- 1:53:36And they got a fucking. Paramount Plus and HBO and all
- 1:53:41this other shit, they were all happy to take that money.
- 1:53:45But when the streams go down, the revenues go down, the
- 1:53:49payouts go down, all of a sudden they're like, this isn't fair.
- 1:53:53We need to be paid more and it's like, well, make better shit.
- 1:53:58Make sure people want to fucking see because you have more
- 1:54:01competition than ever. The mainstream Hollywood.
- 1:54:06Is facing the same problem that magazines and newspapers had
- 1:54:10faced before. But the Internet does it better,
- 1:54:13cheaper and faster than they ever could.
- 1:54:17I mean, yeah. And anybody can do it, and they
- 1:54:21could do it completely independent like this show.
- 1:54:23Yeah. And also, look, we we dropped.
- 1:54:28I shouldn't say we, but my book, which is just a real short
- 1:54:32novella, dropped from. Or, I guess rose from depending
- 1:54:37on you look at it, 550 to 430 in the in the Amazon, in the Amazon
- 1:54:48rankings for political thriller, for the Conspiracy, for the.
- 1:54:54That might not seem like a lot, but.
- 1:54:57That's that's baller right there because you know we we only have
- 1:55:02like the audience that we have and it grows all the time and
- 1:55:05and. Trust me, we notice right and
- 1:55:08and we appreciate the audience. We are talking to the audience
- 1:55:12something like. We.
- 1:55:13Notice. What we have, we have the
- 1:55:15audience. We have for the show, right?
- 1:55:18But then. I mean, admittedly, I have
- 1:55:21friends who you know and and family members are like, hey, I
- 1:55:26don't really want to follow your show because it's political or
- 1:55:29whatever. OK, that's fine, but then.
- 1:55:33But you wrote a book. That's fucking awesome.
- 1:55:35Let me buy that. Because yeah, my God, Sam wrote
- 1:55:38a book. And that's what that's what
- 1:55:40happens. And that's.
- 1:55:41And, oh, and, oh, it's fiction. Oh, you know what?
- 1:55:46Little do they know that a lot of the themes and, you know,
- 1:55:49plots are in the book are, you know, things that I've actually
- 1:55:54talked on this show here, so. Well, to some degree, I think
- 1:56:00they probably don't care. They probably know you'll have
- 1:56:02a. Slant to it, but they're
- 1:56:05supporting you. And and that's great, but but my
- 1:56:08point is we don't have the soapbox of fucking Stephen King.
- 1:56:13We there's no big publisher behind it.
- 1:56:15There's no, the only hype machine is Sam and us, and
- 1:56:19that's it. That's the hype machine.
- 1:56:21And yet climb in the fucking charts.
- 1:56:24And well, and that, and that's the case for.
- 1:56:26And it's not just me. That's the case for a lot of
- 1:56:29these independent authors who are who are now.
- 1:56:33I I wouldn't. I don't know if they're like
- 1:56:35crushing Stephen King in terms of sales, but they're, you know.
- 1:56:41Collectively, I think they are. Collectively, probably.
- 1:56:46They'll never get, they'll never get on their New York Times
- 1:56:50bestseller list, but they are. But they're going to get pretty
- 1:56:53close. Yeah, collectively.
- 1:56:55Independent media is taking over.
- 1:56:58So. Yeah, well, and and.
- 1:57:01I mentioned it because it came relevant in the Johnny Fox shit
- 1:57:05last year, but Penguin Random House Publishing is facing like
- 1:57:10class action, lawsuits and shit because they're they're authors.
- 1:57:1490% of their authors have sold less than 12 books.
- 1:57:18You've sold more than that, meaning you're selling better
- 1:57:22than our authors who are signed to the biggest publisher in the
- 1:57:27world. More people are buying your book
- 1:57:30than theirs. Yeah, and.
- 1:57:33Yeah, they're not notable named people.
- 1:57:36I'm not saying it is a Stephen King.
- 1:57:38It's not that level of people we're talking about here.
- 1:57:41But it is. It is telling that they can put
- 1:57:45in the hype machine, they can put in advertising, they can
- 1:57:49send it out to bookstores and get it on shelves, they can put
- 1:57:52it in Walmart. And yet these authors are
- 1:57:55selling 12 fucking copies you as some spurg on the Internet.
- 1:58:00Can sell more than that. Yeah, I've so I've sold, I've
- 1:58:03sold 20 copies, not not counting the author copies that like that
- 1:58:08I've bought. And then people and then like
- 1:58:11family members have given him money so that they can send them
- 1:58:15to their friends. So like, I probably sold, I've
- 1:58:18sold like 30 copies probably in just like what, two weeks since
- 1:58:23it launched. So and yeah, so.
- 1:58:28And and the good thing about you writing it as a series is that
- 1:58:32the the sales are kind of Evergreen because people might
- 1:58:35want to go back and read them in order, so.
- 1:58:37Yeah, And then eventually I'll release the Compendium, and then
- 1:58:42that will become a thing. And this isn't the only series
- 1:58:46I've got. I've got a couple others in the
- 1:58:48works as well. So yeah, it's a.
- 1:58:51So yeah, go on, strike all you want.
- 1:58:55Never, never come back. Never fucking come back,
- 1:59:01paddles. Let's point out the obvious
- 1:59:04though, in during the strike is when Sound of Freedom comes out
- 1:59:09and absolutely crushes the box office.
- 1:59:11Oh yeah. As well, I should point out the
- 1:59:14the, the Jason Aldean. I'm not a country guy.
- 1:59:17Okay, I don't. Actually, I'm not.
- 1:59:21I listen to the song and I think as a country song, I like the
- 1:59:24message. I like what it's saying.
- 1:59:26Now they're saying it's an evil lynching song and Sheryl Crow is
- 1:59:30attacking him and saying it's lame.
- 1:59:33Sheryl Crow is telling people that they're lame.
- 1:59:37Sheryl Crow is the lamest mainstream artist to ever exist.
- 1:59:43Sheryl Crow has it. Sheryl Crow hasn't even been
- 1:59:46relevant since like, the late 90s.
- 1:59:50She's like a one hit wonder. Yeah.
- 1:59:54But whatever. Jason Aldean is not a one hit
- 1:59:57wonder. As I understand it, he's a very
- 1:59:59popular country music star and more, if you were into it, I'm
- 2:00:03telling you, is a good song. I support the message.
- 2:00:06Try this. In a small town, they're talking
- 2:00:08about riots, they're talking about crime.
- 2:00:10They're talking about all this. Take taking guns away from
- 2:00:13people. Well, it's just like.
- 2:00:16Fuck. Around and find out.
- 2:00:17But he's not as vulgar as I am. Yeah.
- 2:00:20It's just like, you know, Sound of Freedom came out a few and
- 2:00:26and look, I actually like Jim Caviezel.
- 2:00:30Not only was he in Passion of the Christ, but he did a show
- 2:00:33called Person. Literally played Jesus in the
- 2:00:37Passion. Yeah.
- 2:00:40Fantastic performance by the way.
- 2:00:43Very. And also, Mel Gibson is pretty
- 2:00:46fucking based, actually. He might be too based for his
- 2:00:51own good, but yeah. Yeah, Braveheart, I, I, I, I do
- 2:00:57need to redo my view of. I do need to redo my review of
- 2:01:02Braveheart because that I mean it because it's time.
- 2:01:08But like, yeah, sound of freedom.
- 2:01:11Opens up and Rolling Stone, basically.
- 2:01:17Well, they essentially defended pedophilia, it seems like.
- 2:01:26It certainly wasn't a good look. Yeah.
- 2:01:32And that seems to be the whole left's problem with the film.
- 2:01:36Is like, you're going after pedophiles in Hollywood, but the
- 2:01:39left loves us. You know, we're the left and we
- 2:01:43fund all the leftist politicians.
- 2:01:45You can't be going after these people.
- 2:01:46And it's like, yeah, but they're literal child predators bra.
- 2:01:50Yeah. And I don't mean all like I'm
- 2:01:52not going to say I'd like because I'm not slandering
- 2:01:55anybody. I'm saying if you watch the
- 2:01:56film, and I highly recommend it, by the way.
- 2:01:59And by the way, if you go and see the film, you'll find a a
- 2:02:03crowd at the film. That's probably pretty cool.
- 2:02:06You know, the people in the film are normal people.
- 2:02:09Not, not, not fucking political weirdos.
- 2:02:12Women. A lot of women, I find even
- 2:02:14leftist women, resonate with the story.
- 2:02:17Why? Because it's about child
- 2:02:18trafficking. And they fucking hate that shit.
- 2:02:21As they should. As everybody should.
- 2:02:23The children shouldn't be taking advantage of to this degree in
- 2:02:27our fucking country. Ever.
- 2:02:30We shouldn't tolerate this fucking shit from anyone.
- 2:02:33And look, I yeah. And I'm I'm glad.
- 2:02:35I'm glad there's a I'm glad there's some.
- 2:02:39I'm glad there's a movie out there highlighting.
- 2:02:42And it's number one at the box office.
- 2:02:44Yep. And yeah, take that.
- 2:02:48Take that, you know, Marvel and you know, Disney and all these
- 2:02:56other. I mean, I mean Fox had the
- 2:03:00opportunity to distribute that movie.
- 2:03:03It would the thing it was, it was, it was already like the
- 2:03:07film was already made. It was in the can.
- 2:03:12But then Fox, you know, got by Disney and suddenly Disney is
- 2:03:18like, oh, what's this? We don't want it.
- 2:03:21So then Angel Films, an independent film company.
- 2:03:28Basically like crowdfunded, getting into theaters and now.
- 2:03:31And just by word of mouth, it is the number one and and the
- 2:03:36strike, let's be fair, the strike has something to do with
- 2:03:40it because they're trying to spread out their major releases
- 2:03:43of films that are already in the can.
- 2:03:46So so that they don't lose their revenues throughout the year.
- 2:03:49That's that is what the major movie studios are doing.
- 2:03:53But because of that, just this perfect storm.
- 2:03:57Word of mouth has taken an independent film to be grossing,
- 2:04:02I believe over 100 million at the box office and it was made
- 2:04:07for like 2 Wild. Absolutely wild.
- 2:04:12And a lot of that money is going to fucking charities supporting
- 2:04:16stopping child trafficking as well.
- 2:04:19Yeah, yeah, a lot of it is. A lot of it is going to that.
- 2:04:23I mean, a lot of you can even get free tickets now, like.
- 2:04:28Like all of them are just saying, hey, if you know, if you
- 2:04:31can't, you know, afford a ticket to see the movie, that that's
- 2:04:35fine. But you know, if you can't buy a
- 2:04:39ticket for yourself, buy a ticket for someone else to see
- 2:04:42this movie. So yeah, it's.
- 2:04:46It's it's a phenomenon and and again Jason Aldean the video for
- 2:04:52Try This in a Small Town actually came out in May.
- 2:04:57They're acting like he came out like this week.
- 2:04:58It came out in May. It's been in rotation on country
- 2:05:01music television since then, right?
- 2:05:04And country music television pulled it because lefties cried
- 2:05:08and said it's a song about lynching, which I like doesn't
- 2:05:11even make sense if you see it. But I'll tell you this as a
- 2:05:15music guy okay, and as a guy that likes edgy music and always
- 2:05:20has, why is this so bad? And WAP was celebrated by those
- 2:05:26same people. Because.
- 2:05:32Because it's degenerate. Yeah, yeah, because because
- 2:05:35they're all perverts, so. Yeah, and look, you know, I'm
- 2:05:40not opposed to some sexually explicit songs.
- 2:05:42I was just listening to Titties by Big Chris Caligo.
- 2:05:46Great song, great artist. Check them out.
- 2:05:48But like, you know that song. I actually was seeing little
- 2:05:54kids fucking listening to and twerking to it and it's fucking
- 2:05:57disgusting. It was I I actually had a
- 2:06:00conversation with a a Spanish gentleman, and I say Spanish
- 2:06:03because he's actually an immigrant from Spain.
- 2:06:06I'm not like. Oh, so he's he's he's an actual
- 2:06:09he's. So he's an actual Spaniard.
- 2:06:11Spaniard. Yeah, I I I just want to specify
- 2:06:14because he's not he will be mad if I called him Hispanic.
- 2:06:18He is Spanish. OK.
- 2:06:20Yeah. Anyway.
- 2:06:21I was talking to him about it and he was saying the same
- 2:06:23thing. He's like they're pushing this
- 2:06:24fucking shit right in the kids faces.
- 2:06:27Like yeah, we had some edgy shit, but you would go buy the
- 2:06:30record, right? You'd have to go buy the record.
- 2:06:33This shit's everywhere in front of these kids.
- 2:06:36They're twerking on TikTok with it.
- 2:06:38And Jason Aldean Song, which doesn't cuss at all and only
- 2:06:42says if you come and fuck with us in a small town, you're going
- 2:06:46to find out. Although he doesn't say fuck.
- 2:06:48He does say find out though. Which that's a bit of a dog
- 2:06:52whistle, obviously, right? The find out part.
- 2:06:55You know what the first part is. But guess what?
- 2:06:59Guess what that makes it Now it's the number one song
- 2:07:02trending in the fucking world on iTunes and Spotify.
- 2:07:05Because people are like, yeah, what's wrong with this?
- 2:07:09This is actually a good song. Again, I'm not a country music
- 2:07:12guy, but I respect the hustle and I listen to it.
- 2:07:15And I watched the video today. Which is out of my wheelhouse.
- 2:07:20Again, I'm not going to critique a country song because like that
- 2:07:23would be dumb. But it was a well written, it
- 2:07:27was well performed. Clearly he means what he's
- 2:07:29saying and the message, I'm from a small town.
- 2:07:32Yeah, if you can. When when the riots were going
- 2:07:36down in the BLM protests and everything we heard there was
- 2:07:39going to be a BLM protest at the park and the kids organized an
- 2:07:43army to protect our fucking neighborhood.
- 2:07:47Yeah, I. The kids, organically
- 2:07:50themselves, became a little fortified army ready to throw
- 2:07:54rocks at any protesters coming to our our hood.
- 2:07:57So like, yeah, if you try that shit in a small town you will
- 2:08:01find out because people don't put up with this shit.
- 2:08:05Yeah, I mean, and maybe and even like an hour, you know, even in
- 2:08:09our midsize. In town and All in all of the
- 2:08:12communities, like, people were getting their shotguns polished
- 2:08:15last year and everything like that one.
- 2:08:19I mean, yeah, like. With it.
- 2:08:20With intent to defend. That's the thing the whole song
- 2:08:25is even saying if you come causing fucking shit, well, it's
- 2:08:30like, why? Why then is gangster rap okay?
- 2:08:33Can we can we compare it to gangster rap?
- 2:08:35But you want to talk about violent messaging?
- 2:08:37And I love. Me some, I love.
- 2:08:38Gangster rap. I love.
- 2:08:39Horror core. I love all kinds of wild shit,
- 2:08:42but you're going to tell me this song about defending our
- 2:08:45neighborhood is worse than God? I Half of Ice Cube Song.
- 2:08:51Specifically Ice Cube. Westside Connection.
- 2:08:52Terroristic threats. You're going to tell me.
- 2:08:54Terroristic threats, which is a song where Ice Cube makes all
- 2:08:59kinds of very clear and specific threats because of it was like a
- 2:09:02response to the Patriot Act. That is somehow okay.
- 2:09:09This needs to be hidden from the world because it's violent and
- 2:09:12dangerous. No, it's it's all okay.
- 2:09:16Cop killer is okay. It's it's either all okay or
- 2:09:20none of it is. I just used to be right about
- 2:09:25that. Now he's a giant pussy.
- 2:09:28Goddamn kids these days. I did have.
- 2:09:31I did have. So I've been.
- 2:09:33You know, I'm kind of high energy tonight, as you can tell.
- 2:09:35I'm probably going to crash hard because I've been ass.
- 2:09:39Listen, listen, we're all high energy.
- 2:09:43Like I said at the beginning of the show, we kind of took things
- 2:09:47easy last week, but man, we had a lot to cover.
- 2:09:52And look, we'd actually almost covered everything and just
- 2:09:55under, you know, we've just now hit two hours, so yeah.
- 2:10:01Well, I had a little rant that I made in the gilded server.
- 2:10:07But I'd love to rehash publicly here, because.
- 2:10:10Sure. Sure.
- 2:10:11You probably saw it, but I think it was good.
- 2:10:14I think it gets to a point that I wanted to talk about.
- 2:10:16So Carl Benjamin Sargon of Akkad had made a post about Andrew
- 2:10:23Tate and Nick Fuentes, and it's really long and I highly
- 2:10:26recommended it's on his Twitter, but essentially boils down to
- 2:10:31him saying that they're actually both.
- 2:10:35Not representing masculinity at all and their products of like
- 2:10:40this demosculinization and feminism and and I agree and
- 2:10:45it's because in my mind what what is being a man to me right.
- 2:10:51Yeah. And so I said, plus one for the
- 2:10:55Applebee's waiter Here, his analysis of Tate and Fuentes
- 2:10:58being man children without wonder what understanding of
- 2:11:01being a man even is, is spot on. Protip gentlemen, as a man your
- 2:11:07lot in life is to suffer for others.
- 2:11:10I'm sorry I didn't draw the cards.
- 2:11:13Both Tate and Fuentes have the opposite mentality and that is
- 2:11:18why they are not actually men. Suffering sucks.
- 2:11:21Working harder, resting less, having less.
- 2:11:24So your wife and kids and family can have more.
- 2:11:27Yes, it all kind of sucks in a materialist shallow.
- 2:11:32Modern kind of way. But the fulfillment of being a
- 2:11:36man is worth it and in fact makes it good.
- 2:11:40Why is it on a degenerate millennial failed rat producer
- 2:11:44to explain manhood to these young men?
- 2:11:47Where are the men now? You can deny your lot.
- 2:11:52You can say I don't like this lot and opt out of the system
- 2:11:55and be materialist and selfcentered.
- 2:11:57No one will stop you. Hell, modernity will cheer it
- 2:12:00on. The reason you choose the law of
- 2:12:04suffering for others is because it's what's right and you know
- 2:12:07it fundamentally. I think much of the other
- 2:12:11mentality is actually rooted in Eastern philosophy and
- 2:12:14mysticism. The East sees suffering as bad
- 2:12:18and seeks to achieve a state without suffering.
- 2:12:21They blame suffering on desire, which is sort of true, and
- 2:12:24Buddhism specifically seeks to purge desire in order to purge
- 2:12:29suffering. They hit on something when it
- 2:12:31comes to living, minimalist and being aesthetic, sure.
- 2:12:36But the West sees suffering, especially of men, the way I
- 2:12:40have thus described it as virtuous but also inevitable.
- 2:12:47And that that I just wanted to share that with people because I
- 2:12:50I am so sick and tired of seeing young men who aren't fucking men
- 2:12:56at all. They're they're.
- 2:12:59They're they're they're soy boys.
- 2:13:02They're they're they don't act like men.
- 2:13:04They don't carry themselves like men.
- 2:13:06They don't respond to things in a masculine way.
- 2:13:08And as a guy like me, it's fucking weird.
- 2:13:12The Yeah, no, I was. It's funny that you actually
- 2:13:17bring that up because people have asked me my opinion on
- 2:13:20Andrew Tate specifically. I kind of a little bit of a rat
- 2:13:25about Tate and my big problem with.
- 2:13:28Andrew Tate is his whole idea of masculinity is unattainable.
- 2:13:42What? What do I mean by that?
- 2:13:43Well, Andrew Tate started off basically being a, you know, a
- 2:13:51famous MMA fighter and and a record producer, he keeps
- 2:13:57saying. Lately I I to be fair, I did
- 2:14:01listen to his his interview with Tucker Carlson.
- 2:14:05I I love Tucker and you know Tucker did do a 2 hour interview
- 2:14:10with him. I want to.
- 2:14:12Say this about Tate because lumping him and Fuentes together
- 2:14:16creates kind of a problem. I think Tate has some points and
- 2:14:21that's why he's so popular. Tate definitely has some points.
- 2:14:24There's no denying that my but. It's not, but it's not super.
- 2:14:28Like, wow, what a hot take. It's like basic shit.
- 2:14:32Sorry, go on. My problem with Tate, Yeah,
- 2:14:35granted, Tate does make some good points.
- 2:14:39Like, yeah, maybe man, should you know, like work out and, you
- 2:14:46know, be physically fit. Yeah, that's entirely that is.
- 2:14:52Possible. You know, men should groom,
- 2:14:56groom themselves and try and look presentable.
- 2:14:58OK, yeah, that. My problem is, and this kept
- 2:15:02telling up in the Tucker interview with with Andrew Tay,
- 2:15:05and this really bothers me. But Andrew Tay kept saying in
- 2:15:11his interview with Tucker that men need to strive to be
- 2:15:16exceptional. And it repeated that over and
- 2:15:20over. No.
- 2:15:21And over. Yeah, define, define
- 2:15:23exceptional, right. Yeah, And Tucker?
- 2:15:26Tucker been asked him, what does that mean And Andrew never
- 2:15:30addressed him directly. The problem with that, the
- 2:15:34problem with that. And we've seen a like a lot of
- 2:15:36these Sigma Male coaches, you know, repeat that same line.
- 2:15:42The problem is. Is.
- 2:15:45Being exceptional. Literally means you're the
- 2:15:51exception. It's in the name.
- 2:15:53Yeah. And yeah, it what it means that
- 2:15:56there's the yeah, it's in the name.
- 2:15:59And also the goal posts for what being an exceptional means keeps
- 2:16:06changing according to Andrew Tate's definition.
- 2:16:10I could never measure up to, you know, be an actual man because
- 2:16:16I'm crippled. And that's just.
- 2:16:19You know. Yeah, and by by my definition,
- 2:16:21you're probably more of a man than most people, because you
- 2:16:24understand the nature of suffering and overcoming that
- 2:16:28and not letting it destroy you. Right.
- 2:16:31Which is which is which. OK, if I don't want to be one of
- 2:16:36these like male like advice guys, but I suppose we if we
- 2:16:42have to, I suppose. I've found that I kind of have
- 2:16:46to now like. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:16:48I suppose that if people like Andrew Tate are going to be in
- 2:16:50this business now, what the hell, Max and I might as well be
- 2:16:54male advice. You know, couches.
- 2:16:58So. I mean, look, look, hey, I am
- 2:17:01not a rich MMA fighter. I don't have a harem, right?
- 2:17:07But but I am a loving husband, a good father.
- 2:17:11You know you you're talking about men should work out.
- 2:17:13I I was. I literally just went down for a
- 2:17:15run before I came in. That's probably why I'm high
- 2:17:18energy. I've been busting my ass all
- 2:17:20day. I could you know, Dad, shit, I
- 2:17:22cleaned out my pantry because there's a bunch of bunch of old
- 2:17:27fucking cans of food that my my wife got and I just fucking.
- 2:17:33Pulled. Oh, go ahead.
- 2:17:35You cleaned out your pantry. Yeah.
- 2:17:39Well, well, that's, that's your woman's job to like.
- 2:17:41No, no, because it's in my kitchen.
- 2:17:43That's my kitchen. But right but but the but the
- 2:17:48kitchen is a is a feminine place like men don't boil well.
- 2:17:52Then why are all the best chefs men?
- 2:17:55Well, OK. Yeah, damn it.
- 2:18:01Damn it. As it, you know, foil the gun.
- 2:18:04So yeah. Yeah, Speaking of.
- 2:18:07Exceptional. Like Gordon Ramsey is
- 2:18:09exceptional at cooking right and judging food right?
- 2:18:13That must be woman's work. Oh, he's not a real man.
- 2:18:15I'll tell you, if you were to put a masculine off between
- 2:18:19Ramsey and fucking Tate, Ramsey wins.
- 2:18:22Oh yeah, well, also, like, if you've seen Gordon Ramsey.
- 2:18:26Like, he's not exactly, like, he's not exactly a weakling
- 2:18:31either. Like, you know that that dude
- 2:18:33has biceps. Like he's.
- 2:18:36He's physically fit. And also he also, Andrew Tay
- 2:18:40also brought up this thing like you have to be financially, like
- 2:18:44independent, which, OK, yeah, I agree with that to true to an
- 2:18:47extent. But like his thing is you have
- 2:18:49to be. So you have to make so much
- 2:18:51money that like basically you can't be told what to do.
- 2:18:56And basically like, I'm, I'm sorry, but like the amount of
- 2:19:00money that he's talking about is unattainable for most like.
- 2:19:05Well, that's. The difference?
- 2:19:07Between my philosophy and his my philosophy, any man could could
- 2:19:12live up to his philosophy is to be him.
- 2:19:18I'm not telling anybody to be me, but I am saying carry
- 2:19:21yourself like a man. Have some fucking confidence in
- 2:19:24yourself. Be the best version of you.
- 2:19:27If you're not good at something, that's OK, right?
- 2:19:31Because you probably are good at something else and focus on that
- 2:19:35or make yourself better at it. That's a thing we have a
- 2:19:38capacity to do, right? You know, It's especially
- 2:19:43frustrating as I'm sitting here, you know, cohosting a show with
- 2:19:47a guy with cerebral palsy that just published a fucking book
- 2:19:50and like, think about it. You fucking like, you know what
- 2:19:57I'm saying? Like.
- 2:19:59Right. That's that's man shit right
- 2:20:01there. You overcame, you know, very
- 2:20:03specific set of circumstances throughout your entire life to
- 2:20:07lead you to do something better than anybody thought that you
- 2:20:11could. OK.
- 2:20:12Well, I will. Also give a concrete example
- 2:20:15that relates. OK, so when I was in college I
- 2:20:19initially wanted to be a business manager.
- 2:20:23Thank God I didn't go down that road.
- 2:20:26Because business majors are mostly useless.
- 2:20:29But do you know the reason why I didn't end up going with a
- 2:20:33business major? Have I told you this story?
- 2:20:38Was there was somebody steered you away from it or?
- 2:20:42Well, not necessarily. So what happened was I started
- 2:20:48looking at this business major. I even did like a few of the
- 2:20:53courses. And then, as it turned out,
- 2:20:57there was a there was there was like a certain level of math
- 2:21:00courses that I needed to take like and Long story short, I got
- 2:21:08tested and it turned out I have a learning disability for math.
- 2:21:12So sure I couldn't I couldn't do, so I couldn't do those
- 2:21:17maths. As a result, I couldn't do the
- 2:21:19business major. So I was really bummed out.
- 2:21:23And then a professor of mine told me about technical writing
- 2:21:28and communications, which is an English degree, but it basically
- 2:21:34covers a lot of the same business, material and
- 2:21:42communications. Which is not to say.
- 2:21:45Which is not to say it wasn't hard for you.
- 2:21:47It was to say it was more in your wheelhouse as opposed to
- 2:21:50the math. Oh, it was still.
- 2:21:52It was still extremely. Yeah.
- 2:21:56It. Was still extremely hard and
- 2:21:58some. Anything worth doing usually is.
- 2:22:01I had, I mean, I had to say, graphic design courses, which,
- 2:22:05yeah, graphic designed into this day still was not in my my
- 2:22:09wheelhouse. Turns out I'm not.
- 2:22:12I'm actually pretty decent at graphic design as it turns out.
- 2:22:16But yeah, that that. So my point being is like, yeah,
- 2:22:19I'm not real good at like algebraic math or you know,
- 2:22:23whatever, I. Meese is going to term talking
- 2:22:27about this exact phenomenon back in the 20s, and it's called
- 2:22:33diversity of Labor, right? Like like we need people who are
- 2:22:37good at cleaning toilets. You, you, you, you might laugh
- 2:22:41at the fucking janitor, but the fact of the matter is somebody's
- 2:22:44got to clean the fucking public toilets.
- 2:22:46And if a guy doesn't mind doing it and is good at it and yeah,
- 2:22:50like literally OKI have a family member who's been a janitor for
- 2:22:55fucking 30 years and I've actually taken work with him
- 2:22:58when I needed it, you know, because it's because that's what
- 2:23:02a man does. A man.
- 2:23:05Just. Does shit, even if it's fucking
- 2:23:07hard. Because they got to do it.
- 2:23:09You do what you have to do. You better yourself.
- 2:23:12That's all I suggested people. And what I see from younger men
- 2:23:16now is that they have no idea how to start because a lot of
- 2:23:20them, It's because they lack confidence, because of people
- 2:23:23like Andrew fucking Tate, because he tells her, oh, you
- 2:23:25need to make seven figures or you're a piece of shit.
- 2:23:28No, you're not. Yeah.
- 2:23:31You're every bit as good as he is and look.
- 2:23:34Manager tape fans, if they find this, they're going to be like,
- 2:23:36Oh well, he's more of a man than you.
- 2:23:38He'd kick your fucking ass. You want to bet bro, I'm twice
- 2:23:42his size. OK, I might not be a fucking
- 2:23:45professional level MMA fighter, but I guarantee you he wouldn't
- 2:23:48want to fight me if he seen me because I'm a heavyweight.
- 2:23:52And also too. I just pick him up and throw
- 2:23:55him. And also as my stepdad pointed
- 2:24:00out too recently and this is pretty.
- 2:24:02If the measure of a man is worth, you know, whether or not
- 2:24:07they can throw a punch, and if that's all there's to it, then
- 2:24:12that's not being a man either. Because being able to.
- 2:24:17I mean, trust me, if you've. Got.
- 2:24:18I would say it's more about being able to take a punch.
- 2:24:21And I don't just mean literally being able to take a punch and
- 2:24:27not let it destroy you, right. And that's what I'm saying.
- 2:24:31Could Andrew Tate probably kick my ass?
- 2:24:33Maybe. I don't fucking know.
- 2:24:34Would I fight him? Yeah.
- 2:24:36Yeah, you're fucking right. I would, because I think he's a
- 2:24:39piece of shit. Well.
- 2:24:40Also being able to also being able to defuse problems and work
- 2:24:47them out in a way where like violence, you know, I'm not past
- 2:24:53this by any means but. If you find yourself in a wet in
- 2:24:58a situation where you can defuse, you know, a situation
- 2:25:02without violence, you should probably take that like.
- 2:25:07Yeah. As a turn, I bet friends have
- 2:25:10said combat is not pretty and you should only use violence as
- 2:25:14like a last resort. I did you know martial arts,
- 2:25:20kickboxing, boxing, wrestling, like?
- 2:25:23Since as long as I could remember, okay, I've been in
- 2:25:26combat. That's why I say I'm not afraid
- 2:25:29to fight somebody, even if they're a professional MMA
- 2:25:31fighter, because I'm confident in myself, in my abilities, in
- 2:25:35violence, because violence to me is actually sacred.
- 2:25:39It's it's a it's a it's a blood, right.
- 2:25:42It's a ritual. It means something, because
- 2:25:46violence can end very quickly in your death or or maiming or
- 2:25:51whatever else. And it's not something to take
- 2:25:54lightly. You take it seriously.
- 2:25:55You respect it. If you if you don't respect
- 2:25:58violence, that's when you become a, you know, a violent
- 2:26:02psychopath, right? Like, you don't respect
- 2:26:04violence. You don't respect the effect of
- 2:26:06it. That's when you'll do some shit.
- 2:26:09But I respect violence. I don't seek it as a fucking
- 2:26:12means of resolving conflict. But sometimes, you know, it does
- 2:26:16come to that. That's a man.
- 2:26:18My man isn't. I'm going to beat your fucking
- 2:26:20ass because you disrespected me. That's a child.
- 2:26:25That's a child. Yeah.
- 2:26:26And that that seems to you, you know, the whole Andrew Tate, you
- 2:26:31know, America, first thing you know.
- 2:26:36I'm the only reason I bring up fighting Andrew Tate is because
- 2:26:38I know what his fans will say about anybody talking bad about
- 2:26:42him. They're like, well, he'd kick.
- 2:26:43Your ass. So he's the real man.
- 2:26:45It's like he might not, actually.
- 2:26:47Right. Mike Tyson, a big fan by the
- 2:26:50way, of Mike Tyson. Since I was a kid.
- 2:26:53I've read all his books. He's written several.
- 2:26:55Very smart person, despite what everybody thinks about Mike
- 2:26:59Tyson, he said. Everybody has a plan until you
- 2:27:03get punched in the face. Mike Tyson actually it's funny
- 2:27:08bringing up Mike Tyson because I what I thought the other day.
- 2:27:11Mike Tyson is a better male role model for young men than Andrew
- 2:27:16Tate than Andrew Tate is, you know, and and yeah.
- 2:27:23He's he's one of my role models honestly and.
- 2:27:26Truly. Yeah.
- 2:27:27Also, Mike Tyson is also one of the creators on Rumble Now
- 2:27:34because YouTube banned him. Welcome to Rumble Mike.
- 2:27:38Come on, Sam, show sometime. I love you.
- 2:27:41No, I I listen. I'm also I don't have it here
- 2:27:47with me, but like I have a but like I have I actually have a
- 2:27:50legit golden glove because my because one of my one of my
- 2:27:54therapists did like amateur boxing and then he gave me one
- 2:27:57of his golden gloves as like a gift.
- 2:28:00I I treasure it and I value it. But yeah, like I love like I've
- 2:28:05watched a lot of Tyson's fights. So yeah I would be honored.
- 2:28:10To, you know, have him on. I'd love to have a chat with him
- 2:28:14because he's he's such an intelligent man and and I I
- 2:28:19really hate that the stereotype of him is that he's stupid
- 2:28:22because he's he's read more books than I have.
- 2:28:25You know what I mean? Granted he's a bit older than me
- 2:28:28so I could catch up one day, but it'll be hard.
- 2:28:31His. I mean, I've listened to he was
- 2:28:34on Rogan last year and. Look, I I know people say I'm a
- 2:28:40Rogan, you know Shell and it is kind of true, but like as far
- 2:28:44as. Hey, Rogan does interesting
- 2:28:46interviews. Whatever you want to say about
- 2:28:48him personally. Well, that, well, that's, that's
- 2:28:51why I listen to him. It's not just because I like
- 2:28:53Joe, but it's because a lot of his interviews are pretty
- 2:28:58fascinating. And, you know, to be honest,
- 2:29:01like I don't. Like, I'd heard some interviews
- 2:29:04of Mike Tyson last, but I hadn't heard anything that was really
- 2:29:07in depth until I heard until I heard him on Joe Astor.
- 2:29:11And it was pretty. It was all fascinating stuff,
- 2:29:14so. I believe his autobiography is
- 2:29:17called Undisputed, and I highly, highly recommend it.
- 2:29:21There's also they're doing a Hulu television series about his
- 2:29:26life That is all right, but I really suggest there's a movie.
- 2:29:32As well as the book that he wrote in the movie is basically
- 2:29:35him just telling his life story like the guy is he's
- 2:29:39exceptional, right? But not and that's the thing,
- 2:29:42Exceptional is great, right. It is something that to strive
- 2:29:46for. But again, because it's an
- 2:29:48exception, exceptional person, you can't be born with Mike
- 2:29:55Tyson's instinct for fighting. It's it's not even his physique.
- 2:29:59His, his very specific. He was shorter than most other
- 2:30:01boxers that kind of helped. Not not even his quickness, that
- 2:30:05can all be trained. But the instinct and the
- 2:30:08understanding of boxing that he has is exceptional.
- 2:30:13And it's not something that everybody who boxes can ever
- 2:30:16attain. In fact, almost nobody ever has.
- 2:30:19He's one-of-a-kind. That's why he's known today his
- 2:30:23boxing. Is still exceptional.
- 2:30:26And I would put Mike Ty and I'm a big boxing guy.
- 2:30:28I would put Mike Tyson in his prime over almost every boxer
- 2:30:32anyone could ever name, because Mike Tyson in his prime was
- 2:30:36undefeatable. Yeah, I would.
- 2:30:37I would have to agree with you on that.
- 2:30:40So I mean in hell I. Except there's one exception to
- 2:30:44that, and that's Rocky Marciano. But.
- 2:30:48Real. You see, I I know, I know, the
- 2:30:51Popularans would be all, but I actually agree with you on the
- 2:30:55on the Marciano. Marciano is fucking another
- 2:30:59level, but they but they don't box like that anymore, you know?
- 2:31:02Yeah. Marciano would just take shots
- 2:31:05to the head because he knew he could fucking hit you in the
- 2:31:07head more than you hit him. Fucking crazy strategy, but you
- 2:31:11watch him go. Marciano is something else.
- 2:31:14Go watch some old Rocky Marciano fights.
- 2:31:16He's he's from right down. I've I've met him.
- 2:31:18I've been to his gym. The only ever undefeated
- 2:31:22heavyweight, the only ever undefeated champion.
- 2:31:26I do think that he might beat Mike Tyson in his.
- 2:31:28If they were both in their prime, Ali would be a joke
- 2:31:31because Ali's whole thing was to try and outlast you.
- 2:31:35Mike Tyson is just so quick and powerful.
- 2:31:38He's going to come inside. See.
- 2:31:39Ali is exactly. The kind of fighter Mike Tyson
- 2:31:43eats for breakfast. Because after Ali, everybody
- 2:31:47tried to do Ali right. They all would float like a
- 2:31:50butterfly and they're all shucking.
- 2:31:52And you know Mike Tyson comes inside right in the fucking
- 2:31:57grill with his perfect fucking guard and just one punch.
- 2:32:02Yeah, my Mike Tyson is a lot like the way I box, which is he
- 2:32:06just likes to get in there and punch you.
- 2:32:09Although I'm also because I'm left-handed.
- 2:32:12I'm a southpaw, so I also have I actually.
- 2:32:17Have a I hate to get off on boxing.
- 2:32:20No, no, no. This is actually good because
- 2:32:23one of my best friends from middle school, his name is Tyro.
- 2:32:28He's been on the guest before. His birthday is today, actually,
- 2:32:33so. Happy birthday.
- 2:32:35Happy birthday, Ty. He's actually doing MM.
- 2:32:39He's actually MMA fighter, he fighting and when he has his
- 2:32:45match, like I think later this year he wants to come on the
- 2:32:48show. I can tell you that my friend Ty
- 2:32:52White is in general is more of a man than Andrew Tate is because
- 2:32:56like me, he's had to struggle through things, so.
- 2:33:02Yeah, what? Overcoming struggle is what will
- 2:33:05make you a man. You know what?
- 2:33:09We. You know what?
- 2:33:10That's. Why I say like for you, right?
- 2:33:12Or or or for people who physically can't.
- 2:33:15I'm not saying I'm not advocating oh go get into a
- 2:33:18combat sport. But for most men I think you
- 2:33:20should take a karate class or you should do wrestling in high
- 2:33:23school or you should play football, play a contact sport.
- 2:33:27Because what I mean by this and and you've done it in different
- 2:33:31ways in life and and other people do too.
- 2:33:33But what I mean by this is you need to get punched in the
- 2:33:36fucking mouth and get back up. Figuratively or literally,
- 2:33:41because that is the moment when you realize, you know, I can
- 2:33:47take this, I can, and I'm stronger because of it.
- 2:33:51Yeah. You just need to keep getting
- 2:33:54stronger. You need to keep getting back
- 2:33:56up. The ability to persevere is
- 2:34:00something that you know is that is fundamental for.
- 2:34:08I wouldn't just say men, but just for society is as a whole
- 2:34:14and we and we don't persevere that much anymore.
- 2:34:21I mean, everyone's on Ssri's or some sort of, I'm not saying.
- 2:34:29And the other thing about it is not only persevere, but
- 2:34:31understand that nobody actually gives a fuck.
- 2:34:35Right. You have people in your family
- 2:34:37that care about your struggle, but and people will help you and
- 2:34:42all that shit. You know, I don't.
- 2:34:44I have my wife and kid. My actual family, you know, was
- 2:34:47different. But like in in in reality, in
- 2:34:50the larger context of life, if you say well, this wasn't fair,
- 2:34:55maybe it wasn't right, but you can't expect anyone to care
- 2:34:59because life's not fair. You You can't expect anyone to
- 2:35:03care, but. You also.
- 2:35:07That's true. But then also because merch
- 2:35:12because and again I I, I. Hate to go back to?
- 2:35:15The the whole each other thing. But but merch is a perfect
- 2:35:19example of this where, well, no one cares for me.
- 2:35:24So that gives me an excuse to be an asshole to fucking everyone.
- 2:35:31Right. Well, the thing about it is.
- 2:35:33She only talks about pleasant maxing, right?
- 2:35:37The the reason for that is like, you make people care that way.
- 2:35:41People start to care more because you're a nice guy.
- 2:35:45Like, look, yeah, I'm this weird hairy giant motherfucker that
- 2:35:49swears and blah blah blah blah blah.
- 2:35:51Like you could point out why I'm a fucking weirdo, but people in
- 2:35:53my community like and respect me in my real life, not on this
- 2:35:57Internet bullshit. I walk around, I talk to people.
- 2:36:00Hey Max, how's it going? How you been?
- 2:36:03Fucking like that's real life and you get that by being
- 2:36:07polite. By being not you know and and
- 2:36:10and another thing is when it comes to like this thing
- 2:36:13happened to me and it wasn't fair when I mean by nobody cares
- 2:36:17is nobody wants to hear you cry about it.
- 2:36:20You're a man or or you're supposed to be right.
- 2:36:24Nobody wants to hear a man cry. Nobody wants nobody.
- 2:36:29You're allowed to cry. You're allowed to cry, OK?
- 2:36:32As a man, I'm not saying boys don't cry, OK?
- 2:36:35Sometimes look, a family member dies and you fucking shed some
- 2:36:39tears, right? Like, that's real, OK?
- 2:36:43But what I am saying is when you're crying about this thing
- 2:36:45that happened to me isn't fair. Everybody's just like, yeah, OK,
- 2:36:49get the fuck over it. What do you want me to do?
- 2:36:52Nobody wants to your man cry, and that's true.
- 2:36:55But I will say this like you know if you are.
- 2:37:01So I've had this happen where like you know, I where like I've
- 2:37:05had a shitty day or something and I won't say anything to
- 2:37:09anyone about it, but then someone.
- 2:37:11Will. You know someone will come and
- 2:37:14like ask you know what's up or you can.
- 2:37:16Find a sympathetic ear. Yeah.
- 2:37:19But, but it's in the approach, right?
- 2:37:21What I mean by cry is like, this isn't fair.
- 2:37:25Somebody should do something about that.
- 2:37:27Nobody cares. But if you're like, hey man.
- 2:37:30This, this happened to me today and it really fucking sucked.
- 2:37:33And there me like, yeah, that would suck.
- 2:37:35I get you, right? That is different.
- 2:37:39Yeah, yeah, that. Yeah.
- 2:37:41And you know, I and I know what you mean.
- 2:37:43I'm just, you know, reiterating that more for the more for the
- 2:37:46audience. Too.
- 2:37:47No, you're right. I'm I'm the guy that's always
- 2:37:49reiterating for the audience and I I should do better at that
- 2:37:52sometimes. So good job, you.
- 2:37:54Got it. It's you know it.
- 2:37:59You know, it's not that people because like I, I, I talked to a
- 2:38:05friend who who's a bit younger about this and it's not.
- 2:38:09It's not that people aren't sympathetic because I think a
- 2:38:13lot more people. I think a lot of people are.
- 2:38:17But the problem is, is that especially in this day and age,
- 2:38:22there are a lot of people who just complain about shit for no
- 2:38:25reason and nobody likes that, despite what?
- 2:38:30You know, social media says nobody likes a complainer.
- 2:38:34Really. Not.
- 2:38:35Not not even the complainers like other complainers.
- 2:38:38Or if they do, it's just because Misery likes company.
- 2:38:43What my point, I guess is, is that sometimes as a man, you
- 2:38:46need to learn that you're going to have to suffer in silence
- 2:38:50sometimes, right? And it's OK And it's OK that
- 2:38:54that drives you nuts. And look if it causes you.
- 2:38:56To go and break down and fucking have a cry or whatever.
- 2:39:01Like, yeah, that's okay. And it's okay.
- 2:39:02To be depressed as a man, too. Like, bro, that man shit can get
- 2:39:06depressing. That life can kick you in the
- 2:39:09fucking nuts. I fully, you know, understand
- 2:39:12how people can get down in the dumps.
- 2:39:15You know, it's, it's it's real, right?
- 2:39:17I've been there myself. But at the end of the day, you
- 2:39:21have to dust yourself off. You have to get back on the
- 2:39:24fucking horse. What else are you supposed to
- 2:39:26do? Kill yourself, right.
- 2:39:29Well, that you know you could do that, right?
- 2:39:32You could do that. But like, I I don't respect that
- 2:39:35at all. Like I like and I hate to be the
- 2:39:38guy, but like the people that take the easy way out.
- 2:39:40Yeah. I don't.
- 2:39:41I see it cowardly. I, you know I don't.
- 2:39:44I and and and and I wish the people before they do that would
- 2:39:48would, you know go and like we're saying reach out to people
- 2:39:52without being a fucking crybaby and say look.
- 2:39:55I feel like I got no options left, you know?
- 2:39:59And maybe, you know, just talking to somebody can help
- 2:40:01sometimes. And look.
- 2:40:04You got to get back up. I've I've been there.
- 2:40:09Not to the point where I was getting ready to commit suicide,
- 2:40:13Same it. I never got to that point, but
- 2:40:16but when I was, when I was a junior, when I was a junior in
- 2:40:21high school, I had. I had my I had my worst year, my
- 2:40:28junior high school I had, I had two teachers that that didn't
- 2:40:33really like me. And so they were kind and so
- 2:40:37they went out to get me. I had, I had a, I had a really
- 2:40:41attractive girlfriend who then cheated on on me.
- 2:40:45And you know, that was no fun. Yeah, I mean.
- 2:40:53I've talked about this before on the show, so it doesn't really,
- 2:40:57you know, I'm not like I'm not making some big reveal, but my
- 2:41:01junior was really when things between me and my biological
- 2:41:04father really kind of started to fall apart, so.
- 2:41:08Yeah, that kind of shit could get you down for.
- 2:41:10Sure. You know, so the combination of
- 2:41:12that, I remember at one point like I had a you know, like you
- 2:41:19know. I don't want to commit suicide,
- 2:41:22but I don't like care if I wake up in the morning either, you
- 2:41:25know? And I remember right just.
- 2:41:27Complete, just complete apathy, yeah.
- 2:41:29Yeah. Just like, why do I even fucking
- 2:41:32bother anymore? Like that week?
- 2:41:34What I'm saying about getting up, I'm not saying that we don't
- 2:41:38all go to that place. Sometimes.
- 2:41:40We all do. And I and I remember like, I
- 2:41:44remember talking to my I remember talking to my uncle.
- 2:41:48My dad's brother ironically and like sharing this with him and
- 2:41:53you know that I was just at really a down, a down point And
- 2:41:58my uncle Gary who I've talked to, he was a fireman and he
- 2:42:06unfortunately he he has since passed.
- 2:42:09But I remember him saying you know think of all think of all
- 2:42:13the people that you've touched in your life.
- 2:42:17Sam And you know, think, think of think of all you've
- 2:42:22accomplished in just 17 years at that point.
- 2:42:26Like, yeah, you you have this, you know, you have the you've
- 2:42:30had this really shitty chapter this year.
- 2:42:33But that's just one chapter compared to what you've done in
- 2:42:37the past and what you will do. And So what I get.
- 2:42:42You'll get them next time you know.
- 2:42:44And So what I took away from that and what I.
- 2:42:46Sounds like a wise man just to. He he was, you know, the sad
- 2:42:53thing was, ironically, he dealt with depression and the way he
- 2:42:57dealt with unfortunately, was alcoholism and.
- 2:43:03That's. One of those roads, a lot, a lot
- 2:43:05of men go down, unfortunately. Yeah, and you know, he was.
- 2:43:12The the INA he is, he was. He was great at dispensing
- 2:43:16advice, but he wasn't always the best at following his own
- 2:43:22advice, which I guess is one of the sad ironies of life.
- 2:43:26But. I fall short of what I'm saying
- 2:43:29sometimes to. Oh, we all, we all, we all do.
- 2:43:33I've been trying, I've been trying real hard lately, like
- 2:43:36one of my things right? I've said this before, I'm about
- 2:43:39to be 40 in a couple months and. I need to lose weight before
- 2:43:43then and motherfucker like, shit gets hard when I'm 39, So what
- 2:43:50do I do? I'm kind of ridiculous to the
- 2:43:53point people comment on it. I'm out there running 5 miles at
- 2:43:57a time and people are like, God damn, how far do you fucking go?
- 2:44:00Normal people don't do that. You know where they go to the
- 2:44:03gym and run on their treadmill? I like going outside.
- 2:44:07I like. I like being outside.
- 2:44:08I put my fucking headphones on. I usually have a destination.
- 2:44:12The destination is usually stupid.
- 2:44:13It's usually like I'm going to walk 5 miles to the store and
- 2:44:17get a coffee. I got a.
- 2:44:19Coffee maker. I can.
- 2:44:22I could drive. Down there, I could get a ride.
- 2:44:24I could take the bus. It ain't about the fucking
- 2:44:26coffee. It's it's it's the goal, right.
- 2:44:29The coffee is through is kind of the reward at the.
- 2:44:35Or even an excuse? Although yeah, although you
- 2:44:38know, I I guess the flip side of that is then you have to fucking
- 2:44:41walk back, which you know, can't be.
- 2:44:44Can't be easy either, but. Well, no, it wasn't at first,
- 2:44:47because I used to be really good.
- 2:44:49I used to run 5 miles four or five times a week in 2019, early
- 2:44:542020. And then COVID happened and they
- 2:44:57told me they were going to arrest me for taking my kid to
- 2:44:58the park. And I fucking fell off, right?
- 2:45:01Like a lot of people. Like, yeah.
- 2:45:03Oh, you could say. Oh well, fuck them.
- 2:45:05You should do it anyway. At one point the cops were
- 2:45:08literally going to arrest you if you're fucking outside.
- 2:45:11And that's. Disheartening.
- 2:45:13So. I I fucking let myself go way
- 2:45:16too far. And and you know, you know, I I
- 2:45:20don't have like a fat face. I don't really have fat arms.
- 2:45:23My I'm a I'm a normal guy in the sense that like a lot there's
- 2:45:27fat guys, right? If you get a fat face, it
- 2:45:30usually means that it's like an overeating thing.
- 2:45:34I. Have a beer gut.
- 2:45:36That's. Called the.
- 2:45:37That's called the. I need to do more cardio because
- 2:45:40I'm getting old. That's what happens.
- 2:45:42Right you. Actually kind.
- 2:45:45You actually kind of look like my friend Ty, who I just
- 2:45:48mentioned. And he's always he's always kind
- 2:45:52of in big bones, like, even even though we were kids and he
- 2:45:56wasn't fat, he did get fat at one point, but now.
- 2:46:00But he's always been a big boned guy.
- 2:46:02And you kind of. I'm well, I I don't like big
- 2:46:06boned because that's what fat people say.
- 2:46:08But I am a built like a brick shit.
- 2:46:11House. Yeah.
- 2:46:12I don't. I don't mean.
- 2:46:13I actually have to get like special fucking shirts and shit.
- 2:46:19Better, way bigger. Like I gotta, I gotta wear
- 2:46:21double X shirts. Not because I'm so fat that I
- 2:46:25need them. Because I can fit in a large, no
- 2:46:27problem. But because the shoulders, if I
- 2:46:29put a large on, I literally rip the fucking collar off.
- 2:46:32Because my shoulders are so big. I I I can't be skinny.
- 2:46:36Like there are guys who are. I'm 6 foot five and there are
- 2:46:39guys 6 foot five who weigh like 180 pounds.
- 2:46:42I that's impossible. I would die.
- 2:46:44My doctor even says so, Like that's an unreasonable,
- 2:46:47unattainable goal. What is more reasonable is what
- 2:46:51my fighting weight was, which is where I'm trying to get, which
- 2:46:53is 250. I used to fight at 2:50 as a
- 2:46:56heavyweight, and I want to be back to that point.
- 2:46:59I'm never going to be in a good shape as I was back then because
- 2:47:02I was a fighter and I was in my fucking teens and 20s.
- 2:47:06But I can get back to that weight and feel like I've
- 2:47:09accomplished something. And yeah, it's fucking hard.
- 2:47:12It's fucking hard getting back out there and doing cardio.
- 2:47:15And all these motherfuckers like Andrew Tate.
- 2:47:17There's another one. Lift weights.
- 2:47:18Lift weights. Lift weights, bro.
- 2:47:20You can give you can lift all the fucking weights in the
- 2:47:22world. If you ain't get the fucking
- 2:47:23cardio, you're you're missing out, I'll tell you that.
- 2:47:29You got a you. Got.
- 2:47:30Both. I lived.
- 2:47:32I lived. But I do cardio and I do lots
- 2:47:35fucking of it. Mostly because I had a heart
- 2:47:37attack, but also because that's the way I'm getting there.
- 2:47:40I got to lose this fucking weight.
- 2:47:41Why? For myself.
- 2:47:44And and it's for myself, because I want to feel better about
- 2:47:48myself. I want to be healthier.
- 2:47:49But but again, this is the thing of the man.
- 2:47:52I'm not only suffering for myself, it's also to ensure that
- 2:47:57I will be there as long as possible for my wife and my son.
- 2:48:01And that's what I mean by suffering for something greater.
- 2:48:05Yeah, this is really fucking hard what I'm doing.
- 2:48:08I literally today have done so much and eaten so little.
- 2:48:14That's probably why I'm wiling out.
- 2:48:17I'm fucking hungry and I'm fucking tired.
- 2:48:20But yeah, it's it like, and I've been doing it nonstop, like
- 2:48:25motherfuckers have no idea. Like ridiculous.
- 2:48:28I think. According to my tracker, I have
- 2:48:32done like 250 miles this year. It's that.
- 2:48:36It's that Magga and. It's that mega energy that
- 2:48:40you've got go and that that high you know you're high energy Max
- 2:48:46so. Yeah, well, you got to be.
- 2:48:49You got to, you know, take care of yourself.
- 2:48:52You got to have some confidence. And what helps you get
- 2:48:54confidence? Make yourself better.
- 2:48:56You know, read a book if if you're physically fit, read if
- 2:49:00you're fucking. If you read a lot and you're
- 2:49:02physically fit, there's something else.
- 2:49:03Learn the skill. There's always some way.
- 2:49:06To improve yourself and as you do, your confidence will
- 2:49:09improve. And for you younger guys having
- 2:49:11trouble with the women when you do that, they they they will
- 2:49:15come, but also a lot of young men.
- 2:49:17I think the biggest advice I can give you about women is you
- 2:49:21actually do have to shoot your shot.
- 2:49:23You actually have to take a chance you actually are going to
- 2:49:26get rejected and don't do it on a college campus because you
- 2:49:31never know if the bitch is going to scream rape.
- 2:49:34But normal bitches didn't like that even today, I promise you.
- 2:49:37Well, if you go to normal places and you say, hey, what's your
- 2:49:41name, she's not going to screw. Up.
- 2:49:44Yeah, and that and that was, and I admit that like for a long
- 2:49:48time that was actually my problem because like from high
- 2:49:53school, I moved here. I took a gap year, didn't really
- 2:49:58know anyone because I was still acclimating to just.
- 2:50:02You know, living. Here that first year.
- 2:50:04And then I made a little one to college, and that was weird.
- 2:50:09So really my dating life, like outside of that, has really only
- 2:50:13been about a year or so, and. Honestly, here's the other
- 2:50:17thing. Too, gentlemen, I will pose.
- 2:50:20Is like it's okay to have you know lady friends.
- 2:50:29Who are just friends too. I know that that's like a super
- 2:50:32foreign concept to some of you, but it's it's true.
- 2:50:38So I am. And and and if you never had a
- 2:50:41romantic interest, that's not the friend zone, and it doesn't
- 2:50:44make you a beta. No.
- 2:50:47Right. Like because because I get that
- 2:50:49and and look, I've been out, you know, back.
- 2:50:51My God, I've been with my wife for 17 years this month, so.
- 2:50:58This we're going back a ways. But yeah, I I got friends zoned
- 2:51:01back in the day and it sucks. It's the worst because you're
- 2:51:05interested. But I've also had plenty of
- 2:51:07women friends, you know, because you build a social circle,
- 2:51:11That's the thing. A social circle.
- 2:51:13If your social circle is nothing but dudes at completely.
- 2:51:20That's not it's not healthy. Yeah.
- 2:51:23As an adult male, right? But that, you know, that doesn't
- 2:51:27mean, I don't know, these guys, man.
- 2:51:31They have these weird ideas about women, and it's people
- 2:51:34like Fuentes and and Tate pushing them.
- 2:51:36And I just Yeah, a lot of women are.
- 2:51:42Look, if you have some confidence in yourself, a lot of
- 2:51:46women will notice it. And not only that, if you get
- 2:51:49rejected, the answer isn't Oh my God, why am I so bad?
- 2:51:54It's your loss, bitch. Yeah, I actually.
- 2:51:59You don't have to say that, but I just get a.
- 2:52:01Specified because these. Kids, some some of them are
- 2:52:04autistic. Yeah, No and the Max.
- 2:52:08Said to say you're lost, bitch. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:52:15No. You think that in your head,
- 2:52:17right? Thank you.
- 2:52:20Thank you. For reminding you that some of
- 2:52:22these guys are autistic out there because.
- 2:52:24I don't know. I don't want to defame our
- 2:52:26audience because I think our audience is of a higher caliber.
- 2:52:29Well, yeah, but I mean. If if some autistic guy stumbles
- 2:52:33across, I want to be real clear. Don't say your loss, bitch to
- 2:52:36her. Well.
- 2:52:37Also. Because she'll have.
- 2:52:39Friends. And that can cause you problems.
- 2:52:42Well, yeah, also, you know also. Just keep working on yourself,
- 2:52:48too. And then see, like, here's
- 2:52:51another thing that happened, right when I was in high school,
- 2:52:55there was this, there was like, this girl who was who was like.
- 2:53:04So when I was in high school, that was when Instagram first
- 2:53:08became like a thing. And so this girl that I was
- 2:53:12interested in the high in high school, she was like one of the
- 2:53:15first like. Instagram models, so to speak,
- 2:53:20right. And so she was, you know, she
- 2:53:25was pretty high up on her horse because she had all this, you
- 2:53:30know, she thought she was going to be like the next Kathy
- 2:53:32Ireland or so or something like that, right?
- 2:53:36Or a Heidi Klum. But then her like, I guess after
- 2:53:43we graduated her like fame. Faded.
- 2:53:48Well, then a couple of years ago, actually about like two
- 2:53:51years ago, she actually hit me up and was like, so you're
- 2:53:55actually still doing that podcast and like, you know,
- 2:53:59you're kind of like you're as you're kind of an Internet
- 2:54:03celebrity now, which is, Which is weird because hey, I'm, I'm
- 2:54:07not really like an E celeb, but like, I guess according to her
- 2:54:12metrics, I was. I was now famous and so now she
- 2:54:15was like clap chasing me. And I told her I'm like, no.
- 2:54:20If you'll if you'll allow it, I think I have a visual aid right
- 2:54:23here to explain this to to you guys that aren't aware.
- 2:54:26There's a thing Stefan Molyneux banned everywhere, but a kind of
- 2:54:31smart guy has coined coined the phrase.
- 2:54:33I don't even think he coined it necessarily, but he used it a
- 2:54:36lot and explained it quite well. Sexual market value.
- 2:54:39And what that basically translates to is how desirable a
- 2:54:44different person may or may not be.
- 2:54:46Now there is a interesting phenomenon and I'm going to try
- 2:54:50and illustrate it. If my phone, no, my phone isn't
- 2:54:54going to show up right because of the light.
- 2:54:56Well, okay. You see, I made two lines on a
- 2:55:02graph. There's one up here and one down
- 2:55:05here. Okay.
- 2:55:08Women start off up here. Why?
- 2:55:11Because their biggest asset when they're young is just being a
- 2:55:15young, available, maybe attractive woman, right?
- 2:55:18That makes them desirable to men, especially younger men,
- 2:55:23right? But young men don't all have
- 2:55:26that. You know, there's obviously the
- 2:55:28Chad, there's obviously the football captain or whatever,
- 2:55:31but most young men start off right here.
- 2:55:35Women start off here. But as the women get older and
- 2:55:40hit what we call the wall right and they start to be less
- 2:55:44attractive, they tend to go down in sexual market value at at a
- 2:55:50exponential rate. Men because of the fact that
- 2:55:55you're one of the biggest desirable traits about you is
- 2:55:59how well put together you are, how successful you are, how much
- 2:56:03money you make men. Their market value starts here
- 2:56:08and just goes up, up, up, up, up.
- 2:56:11Usually peaks out about 40 women.
- 2:56:14It's about 20, right? That's why you see so many 20
- 2:56:18year olds with 40 year old men, boyfriends.
- 2:56:21Because of that, They're at the same level, right?
- 2:56:25You will. As you work on yourself, as you
- 2:56:27make yourself better, the women will come.
- 2:56:31It won't even be hard. You won't have to fucking try.
- 2:56:34Unless you're not working on yourself, unless you're not
- 2:56:38putting yourself out there, unless you're not attempting
- 2:56:40anything. If you want to sit and stagnate,
- 2:56:43then yeah, the women are going to come find you.
- 2:56:46But if you're successful, they will.
- 2:56:48Or, and it doesn't have to. You don't need.
- 2:56:50And that's why I say Andrew Tate's got some points.
- 2:56:53The more successful you are, the more women are going to desire
- 2:56:56you. Yes, that's true.
- 2:56:58It's not. You don't need to be a
- 2:57:01millionaire. You just and I would.
- 2:57:03Be stable. And I would even put it like
- 2:57:06further too at this point too, like for for the young guys too.
- 2:57:12You don't necessarily. Have to be like successful, like
- 2:57:16totally off. Like a lot of women will also.
- 2:57:20They're going to have women have different standards of what they
- 2:57:22consider successful. Well, yeah, but I mean also and
- 2:57:26maybe I'm unique, but like I also have an in certain sense
- 2:57:30where. Women will at least see that
- 2:57:33you're that you're grinding and that you're at least trying to
- 2:57:37to better yourself. And even if you're not making
- 2:57:40it, you have. To be on a course somewhere.
- 2:57:44Right. Yeah.
- 2:57:46You might not be at the top yet, but if a woman sees that you're
- 2:57:49going that way, that will make you attractive as well.
- 2:57:54And yes, there are women who like the broken bottom feeders.
- 2:57:57Usually. That's a red flag, actually.
- 2:58:01There there are women that their standard of success is a
- 2:58:05millionaire, like Andrew Tate's saying, Yeah, sure, there's a
- 2:58:08lot of women like that. There's a lot more women who
- 2:58:11their standard of success in a guy that they're looking for is,
- 2:58:14you know, he's got a, he's got a solid 40 hour a week job, he's
- 2:58:18pulling home 50K, which isn't all that much in these, you
- 2:58:22know, times. He's got a car, right?
- 2:58:25Not the nicest car in the world. He's got a car.
- 2:58:27He's got his own place. Or he's on the path to those
- 2:58:30things, gainful employment, things like that, right?
- 2:58:37Or let's say you're in a situation where you're
- 2:58:39unemployed, right? Looking for employment, right?
- 2:58:43He's out there, he's trying to do stuff, He's side hustling,
- 2:58:46whatever women can see. If you're a loser, that's what
- 2:58:50it boils down to. Don't be a loser and you'll get
- 2:58:53women. They smell loser a mile away.
- 2:58:55And again, there's certain type of woman that's attracted to
- 2:58:57losers and you don't want them, you know, because they're
- 2:59:03fucking crazy. They have daddy issues.
- 2:59:07That's why they're trying to fix you, so you don't want them.
- 2:59:10But but a woman who's stable, a woman who has values, a woman
- 2:59:14who believes in something, they want to see you on a course
- 2:59:18somewhere, even if you're not getting there as fast as you
- 2:59:22would like or even they would like.
- 2:59:24If they can see that you have, if you're putting an effort, you
- 2:59:28know it goes a long way. And every little bit of effort
- 2:59:31you're putting in takes you up on that chart that I was going
- 2:59:34to draw on my phone before I realized it didn't work, I got
- 2:59:37to get a whiteboard. I got to get a whiteboard so I
- 2:59:40could. We what we need to do is we just
- 2:59:45need to make like a bunch of we need to make Andrew Kate levels
- 2:59:49of money and then we need to build the studio.
- 2:59:54And then like and we we we can even do it in Boston and I can
- 3:00:00go out there and or you know we can build you like a remote
- 3:00:05studio I. Think we might.
- 3:00:06I think we might get lynched in Boston last time.
- 3:00:12The last time I was in Boston, people tried to kill me.
- 3:00:17OK. Well, well, well math I guess
- 3:00:20would be a better. No, no, no.
- 3:00:24We we could, yeah, yeah, guys donate, you know, $5,000,000 so
- 3:00:29we can build a studio. And no, no, if we, if we
- 3:00:33actually got to the point to build a studio, I'd become in a
- 3:00:36Florida. Like I'd finally be able to
- 3:00:38convince the only thing I'd have to be able to take my
- 3:00:42motherinlaw, that's about it is that my wife would go if I did
- 3:00:45that. Yeah, that I mean if.
- 3:00:49I mean, I hate to, I hate to stereotype.
- 3:00:51But like, Florida is Florida is great.
- 3:00:55Florida is great. It's like motherinlaw country.
- 3:00:58I know. You're probably.
- 3:00:59But she don't like the heat, so that's the fucking.
- 3:01:02Regardless, for enough money, I could.
- 3:01:05I could make that happen. Well, how?
- 3:01:07In the meantime, I'm gonna get myself a whiteboard just so I
- 3:01:10can do that stupid fucking shit that I.
- 3:01:13Was yeah, you could you could you could be like you could be
- 3:01:16like Glenn Beck minus the crying and.
- 3:01:20The shit that he used to, although you know, I did meet
- 3:01:24Glenn Beck, so I can't make fun of him too much, but.
- 3:01:28Sure you can. I I also.
- 3:01:32I also met Larry. I also met Larry.
- 3:01:35Elder Faith so. I met, I met Britney Spears, and
- 3:01:41she's a fucking crazy bitch. I don't know.
- 3:01:45I've met a lot of famous people that I have nothing nice to say
- 3:01:49about, and then I've met some that you would never fucking
- 3:01:51expect that are the nicest people in the world.
- 3:01:54For example, as big as Bitch Britney was that the I was doing
- 3:01:58security over at the fucking stadium the Patriots play at?
- 3:02:02It's not very far from where I live.
- 3:02:04This is Patriots country right here.
- 3:02:06And they have concerts when it's not football season and shit,
- 3:02:09right? And so I was working security.
- 3:02:11I end up backstage for whatever, whatever.
- 3:02:14Britney's like, why are you, why is she didn't talk to me, she
- 3:02:17didn't address me. She said, why is he talking to
- 3:02:20me? Who is he?
- 3:02:22And all I was saying is somebody told me to say to her that she
- 3:02:28was supposed to be somewhere in 5 minutes and she literally
- 3:02:32turned to like, I think it was her manager and was like, why is
- 3:02:35he talking to me? Who is he?
- 3:02:37I'm like, I'm wearing a security shirt, you dumb bitch.
- 3:02:40I said that, by the way. I didn't think that.
- 3:02:43That's why I know calling women bitch in public is not always a
- 3:02:47great idea, but I think she deserved it and I've was so
- 3:02:51distraught by this. Like what The Who the fuck is
- 3:02:54this bitch? And I went in.
- 3:02:56I was supposed to tell because the tour was In Sync in Britney
- 3:03:00Spears. Obviously I'm.
- 3:03:02Huge. And this was in like the peak of
- 3:03:05them right when they were like #1.
- 3:03:08And I walked in to tell *NSYNC, OK, 5 minutes till dress,
- 3:03:12hearse, dress, rehearse or whatever the fuck I was saying.
- 3:03:15And I ended up talking to the dude with the red hair.
- 3:03:18His name was Chris, member of *NSYNC.
- 3:03:20Really cool guy. And I started asking him, I was
- 3:03:23like, why the fuck you and this gay boy band shit?
- 3:03:26Like you're cool. Like what are you doing?
- 3:03:29And he's like, I get so much pussy and money out of this.
- 3:03:31Like why would I not? And we sat there listening to
- 3:03:34like. Because he brought out his CD
- 3:03:37and it was full of like metal and hardcore rap and shit.
- 3:03:40That's awesome. Cool motherfucker, man.
- 3:03:44Cool motherfucker. Actually, actually Justin
- 3:03:47Timberlake, really nice guy. And in my experience.
- 3:03:52Yeah. I'm not.
- 3:03:53I'm not the hugest fan of that music.
- 3:03:54But you know what? Justin Timberlake's more modern
- 3:03:57music. I actually like some.
- 3:03:58Yeah, I yeah. No, it's a good saying.
- 3:04:03Yeah, no, I actually, I've I've heard, I've heard that you know
- 3:04:09who I've also heard is a pretty nice guy is also someone who
- 3:04:16fights against child trafficking.
- 3:04:18Along with Jim Caviezel is Ashton Kutcher.
- 3:04:23I've actually, I actually heard that he's a pretty decent guy
- 3:04:27from some people I know who have met and that he's actually.
- 3:04:31He always got typecast as like the the dweeb on that, like the
- 3:04:35dumb, like handsome guy on all these sitcoms.
- 3:04:39But he's actually fairly intelligent, like, from what
- 3:04:43I've seen of him. Have I ever told, have I ever on
- 3:04:49the show told my Macy Gray story?
- 3:04:52No. OK, That's a good one.
- 3:04:57That's a great one. I'm like my my mind is playing
- 3:05:01it because I'm like, I know I'm familiar with the name, I just
- 3:05:03can't play. She she had one really big hit
- 3:05:06song and it's it's I try to walk away and I cry.
- 3:05:12Oh. That, yeah, that was her.
- 3:05:14And this was during that time where she was riding off that
- 3:05:17the show was Dave Matthews Band, was the headliner Macy Gray, and
- 3:05:21then some underneath act. That's where I recognize her
- 3:05:24from, because I I am a DMV fan actually.
- 3:05:27Oh, maybe I shouldn't tell the story.
- 3:05:30No go. Go ahead.
- 3:05:31Go. Ahead, OK, well.
- 3:05:32He's a prick and he can kiss my fucking ass and I'll never
- 3:05:35fucking have anything to do with his piece of shit ass again.
- 3:05:39So I'm doing again just security work.
- 3:05:43I'm just some guy, right? And I try to be humble and
- 3:05:46polite to everybody because I know that they're famous and
- 3:05:49they are temperamental and all of that shit.
- 3:05:52And I thought Dave Matthews Band have to be the coolest.
- 3:05:57The most laid back motherfuckers in the world.
- 3:05:59And this motherfucker starts screaming in my face.
- 3:06:03How dare I interrupt him? You know what I interrupted him
- 3:06:07doing, sitting on a couch drinking a coffee.
- 3:06:12Silently and I'm like. I'm like, Sir, my boss just came
- 3:06:19in to tell me my boss was his manager, by the way.
- 3:06:24That you are to you need to be on the stage in a couple
- 3:06:27minutes. That's it.
- 3:06:29I'm sorry. And he just starts screaming in
- 3:06:30my face. And I was really I was really
- 3:06:33bummed out because I thought like I liked Dave Matthews Band
- 3:06:36right? Like they're they're cool like
- 3:06:39they're they have some good tunes and.
- 3:06:42I was like. Damn, man, that that that hit
- 3:06:44me. And I'm walking away and fucking
- 3:06:47Macy Gray walks up to me directly, like just sees me down
- 3:06:51the hallway, comes speeding towards me and she's like, yeah.
- 3:06:55You know where I can get some weed in this motherfucker?
- 3:06:58And I was like, actually, yeah. And she's like, all right, I'm
- 3:07:03going to tell them we're going out for lunch and you're going
- 3:07:05to help me buy some weed. And I was like, OK, yeah, let's
- 3:07:10do. And so we get into her big ass
- 3:07:12SUV with a whole bunch of security guards, these big
- 3:07:16fucking dudes, they're all in suits and they have the little
- 3:07:19ear pieces on and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 3:07:22And we fucking pull up to my boy Freddy's house, and I'm like,
- 3:07:26Freddy, I need an ounce, and he's Freddy's.
- 3:07:29Like, what the fuck you need an ounce?
- 3:07:31You know, I'm like, bro, because I known Freddy since we were
- 3:07:34young. I still talk to Freddy on
- 3:07:35occasion. I have to come in and have him
- 3:07:38corroborate this story sometime because it's crazy that it
- 3:07:41happened. And so we go to Freddy's house,
- 3:07:44which is like 20 minutes away. Driving, talking the whole time,
- 3:07:47having a fucking blast. She's telling me yeah, yeah,
- 3:07:49don't worry about Dave, he's a fucking asshole.
- 3:07:51Whatever. And it made me feel better.
- 3:07:55Yeah. And then she took me out to
- 3:07:57lunch and we smoked a couple fucking blunts and she was the
- 3:08:00nicest celebrity I have ever met.
- 3:08:04And that was a really cool moment for me and.
- 3:08:09So the moral of the story, young man is always have a weed
- 3:08:12Kinect. Big.
- 3:08:18Shout out to Macy Gray, Right. Macy Gray?
- 3:08:21Still, that was 20 years ago, and I'll never forget it.
- 3:08:24OK, let me when I let me clarify, would I say I like Dave
- 3:08:29Matthews, I like his music, but yeah, I.
- 3:08:31Yeah, you don't know him. And I like I like his music
- 3:08:34still. Well yeah, but like also I've
- 3:08:37seen him in interviews. He's one of the annoying anti
- 3:08:40Trump people that just really this.
- 3:08:42Is not surprised, but I didn't know that, so I haven't paid
- 3:08:46attention ever since. Like when somebody yells in your
- 3:08:49face like you're nobody. Oh yeah, I have.
- 3:08:52More self respect than that. And I'm just like, yeah, fuck
- 3:08:55you. I am.
- 3:08:57Because I'm not nobody that might be nobody to you, Dave
- 3:09:00Matthews, but to me, I'm somebody special.
- 3:09:03What, What? And what's?
- 3:09:04So what's ironic about all that is Dave Matthews.
- 3:09:08He gets the he gets like the oh, Dave must be a cool and chill
- 3:09:14guy, you know, since he, you know, since that's his type of
- 3:09:17music. But then he turns out to be
- 3:09:19douchey, right? Turns out the turns out the
- 3:09:23exact opposite is true with Sting.
- 3:09:26Everyone thinks that Sting is like a British egotist who's
- 3:09:31like a who's like a narcissist and whatnot.
- 3:09:34He he does kind of come off like that.
- 3:09:36Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, and and granted, so I'm not meant
- 3:09:42sting, but my dad and my uncle both.
- 3:09:46Well, my my dad's best friend's brother.
- 3:09:49Has worked for Sting for the last 40 years and so my uncle
- 3:09:55told me a story of when he of when he had Sting with my dad
- 3:09:59and he said he said yeah, he said Sting does have his ego
- 3:10:05about his songwriting, but he is a consummate gentleman and he's
- 3:10:11he's on to the nicest guy that you've met.
- 3:10:13I guess he like offered. He offered everyone tea, like
- 3:10:21after after the show, because he doesn't drink when he's on tour,
- 3:10:26interesting enough. And then he does yoga, but he's
- 3:10:30not. He was doing like yoga in front
- 3:10:32of people like backstage, too. It was like, he's not like
- 3:10:37egotistical about that at all. So you know, and of course when
- 3:10:42you write that many saw songs and I'm on hits like, yeah,
- 3:10:46you'll. You are going to probably be
- 3:10:49egotistical about your songwriting, At least I would
- 3:10:51guess so. But yeah, so.
- 3:11:03Yeah, I mean, that's The thing is, you never know, like, it's a
- 3:11:06crapshoot. You know who else was, like,
- 3:11:08some of the coolest celebrities I ever met and also the best
- 3:11:12concert I've ever been to? Is Eric Clapton B.B.
- 3:11:17King? I think this was 2002 three and
- 3:11:22it was in a hole in the wall joint in Providence.
- 3:11:26I think there was 300 people total in the crowd and it was
- 3:11:30Clapton and B.B. King.
- 3:11:32You know the legend himself. May he rest in peace.
- 3:11:34By the way, B.B. King is one of the all time
- 3:11:37greats of of music just generally and just.
- 3:11:41They just sat there for three hours and the two of them just
- 3:11:44jammed and played like all of their songs and play.
- 3:11:47They made-up songs on the fly. They were singing songs about
- 3:11:50people in the crowd. BB King's real good at that.
- 3:11:54Oh yeah. He's so good.
- 3:11:55And then afterwards they just came around and just shook
- 3:11:59everybody's hand and had a conversation with everybody
- 3:12:01there. Absolute class between Clapton
- 3:12:06and B.B. King, you know?
- 3:12:07Well, Eric Clapton, I Eric Clapton, I love too.
- 3:12:12Not only is he great songwriter, but he, he was also one of the
- 3:12:15the one of the few musicians to, you know, share a story about
- 3:12:21the backs when everyone else was peddling in bed.
- 3:12:24You need to get the VAT, the jab.
- 3:12:28He was like saying, you know look if you if you want to get
- 3:12:32the jab, get the jab. But it didn't work for me, so
- 3:12:36you know I'm not. So this whole mandate thing is a
- 3:12:40fucking Fallacian deal, So. I I actually didn't know that.
- 3:12:45I just know that he is an absolute guitar God and was just
- 3:12:49so like, like I say, Dave Matthews approached.
- 3:12:53Like, who are you? You're nobody.
- 3:12:54Eric Clapton approached me like, Oh my God, thank you for coming
- 3:12:58to our show. And B.B.
- 3:12:59King, blind as he might have been at the time, was just, you
- 3:13:05know. Hey, you know it's nice to see
- 3:13:08young white guys like Blues, you know, cuz I was one of the few
- 3:13:11young white guys there. I you know that that's the
- 3:13:15that's. And I do.
- 3:13:16I love the Blues. Right.
- 3:13:19Give me Muddy Waters, Give me lead Belly, give me fucking
- 3:13:23Robert Johnson and give me B.B. King.
- 3:13:26I saw Buddy Guy last year. Nice.
- 3:13:30I I. I saw Buddy Guy and I I can't
- 3:13:34remember what the other band was.
- 3:13:37It was another like well known known band.
- 3:13:41But anyway, yeah, we saw Buddy Guy last year.
- 3:13:44The guy is 93 and console. And can.
- 3:13:49Still play like. Wow.
- 3:13:52B.B. King was in his 80s when I saw
- 3:13:54him, I think. I'm pretty sure.
- 3:13:56That. Andy was on dialysis at the time
- 3:13:59and he still did a three hour killer show, which is him and
- 3:14:02Clapton on stage two guitars and just fucking blew the lid off
- 3:14:07the joint. That's why it drives me a bit.
- 3:14:11That's why it does make me chuckle.
- 3:14:15And it does drive me a bit crazy when people are like.
- 3:14:18Oh well. Sam, you don't like gangs, you
- 3:14:21don't like rap, so you must be racist against like black.
- 3:14:24You don't most not like black music then.
- 3:14:26And it's like, OK, you young kids don't realize that there's
- 3:14:30more than just rap as like black music, like, there's like.
- 3:14:34And it's specific because you don't like hip hop, because rap,
- 3:14:38rap and hip hop are two different things.
- 3:14:41Yeah. Because I've played you rap
- 3:14:42music that you like. Oh yeah.
- 3:14:47Yeah, I know it's it's the it's the hip, it is the hip hop.
- 3:14:51Hip hop is a genre of rap, and then gangster rap is a genre of
- 3:14:57that, right? But like rap itself, what it
- 3:15:00actually means is the spoken word form and all these white
- 3:15:04people. Oh, it's.
- 3:15:05You know, RAP is for. Black people, what do you call
- 3:15:08the Viking skull, right when they used to have battles where
- 3:15:13they rhymed words and roasted each other?
- 3:15:16Nowadays we would call that a battle rap, right?
- 3:15:19So no, no. It it it's a it's an old art
- 3:15:22form and it's been around for fucking ages and it can be used
- 3:15:28in all different means and ways. And I think it gets granted.
- 3:15:33I am a I'm a, I'm a failed hip hop producer.
- 3:15:38That's the one I'm going with now because somebody said that
- 3:15:40to me. I'm a failed rap producer, so
- 3:15:42I'm biased but. Speaking of which, and maybe
- 3:15:47we'll fucking and get off after this is about to be one in the
- 3:15:51morning. I am maybe coming out of
- 3:15:55retirement with a wrap myself for the show.
- 3:15:59I've been working on something and I might have something for
- 3:16:03you next week. Ooh, very, very cool.
- 3:16:08That would be. That would be awesome indeed.
- 3:16:12Oh. Speak and Speaking of other
- 3:16:16things related to the to the book, I actually just got a
- 3:16:20notification little like 5 minutes ago that the audio book
- 3:16:28edition for Shadows of Deception is now available on Audible and
- 3:16:35basically all all the other media outlets.
- 3:16:39Where you can buy audit books. There you go, ladies and
- 3:16:42gentlemen. If you don't have an Audible
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- 3:16:51That would help out so much more than you even know.
- 3:16:55And it costs you nothing. I can even I what I'll do is
- 3:16:59I'll have an ad in the all of an ad in the Audible like promo
- 3:17:04code. That they gave.
- 3:17:06Me into the description so you guys can, you know, get free
- 3:17:11and. Throw out a tweet with that.
- 3:17:14Too. Yeah.
- 3:17:15And and that'll also give us like a free that will also give
- 3:17:18me some, you know, money when they sign up too.
- 3:17:23So that's always good, but and my folks, if you've stuck around
- 3:17:28for this long, we appreciate it. Any other final plugs?
- 3:17:34Or on your end Max. Not just be, Be men.
- 3:17:38Do stuff better yourself and overcome adversity.
- 3:17:44That's what. That's my homework for the
- 3:17:45audience this week. And if you're already a man,
- 3:17:47ignore this. Well, and if you're out, well, I
- 3:17:50would say if you're already a man, just keep on doing what
- 3:17:54you're well. They don't need me to tell them
- 3:17:55that. That's why if you're already a
- 3:17:58man, you don't need me to tell you.
- 3:18:01Yeah. If, if you're not quite, if
- 3:18:03you're fucking unsure of yourself, if you're having
- 3:18:06confidence issues, keep telling yourself that I'm fucking worth
- 3:18:10something. Because you are.
- 3:18:12You listen to us. You must be.
- 3:18:15There, there we go. So.
- 3:18:19I know how to sweet talk chat, ladies and gentlemen.
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