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Women don't have babies without men(world most affected) · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: All right, we are live. Hello everybody, welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: Honey Batcher Radio. My name is Brian with Allison, and
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  Speaker 1: this is maintaining frame women don't have babies without men
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  Speaker 1: world most affected where we're going to continue going through
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  Speaker 1: this Cambridge University press paper that basically is going to
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  Speaker 1: solve the fertility crisis, which unfortunately is going to result
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  Speaker 1: in a marginalization of men even more. But you know
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  Speaker 1: it's necessary, so you know, take it like a man.
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  Speaker 1: I guess. So anyway, Alison, you can do the things.
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  Speaker 2: Now and we'll Yeah, their solution, their solution. I apologize,
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  Speaker 2: I was briefly wrestling with the mute button. It does
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  Speaker 2: not want a woman to speak. The solution is, of course, guys,
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  Speaker 2: brace for it, to give women more of men's tax money. Yep, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's their solution, and also to give these these researchers
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  Speaker 2: giant grants to do more research that indicates that the
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  Speaker 2: solution is to higher taxes and more bureaucracy, and more
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  Speaker 2: academic research into the necessity of higher taxes and bureaucracy. Ye,
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  Speaker 2: what is anybody surprised? Is anybody shocked by this? But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's there. That is their solution. They're saying that
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  Speaker 2: the world's fertility rate is declining precipitously, so we should
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  Speaker 2: just take more money from men, create an even bigger
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  Speaker 2: bureaucracy around it, and give it to women, and that
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  Speaker 2: will solve everything.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, we just need another history of giving.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And I have done a lot of research into
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  Speaker 2: this into where fertility is falling in particular and why.
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  Speaker 2: I've even I've even gone into uh fertility rates around
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  Speaker 2: the world. I've gone into how bond formation is structured
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  Speaker 2: around the world. I've identified multiple bond formation regimes and
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  Speaker 2: how they interact with economic factors, funding, UH factors, UH,
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  Speaker 2: social factors, legal factors, all kinds of things. I've done
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  Speaker 2: a lot of research, and I can categorically say from
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  Speaker 2: all of my research that what these people are proposing,
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  Speaker 2: what these researchers using that term very loosely are proposing,
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  Speaker 2: will only make the problem that much worse because women
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  Speaker 2: don't make babies without men. That sounds like it's it
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  Speaker 2: sounds like it's a really like silly thing to say,
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  Speaker 2: like just obvious does that and obvious Brian m h. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: But it's it's actually it's actually it's it's deeper than that,
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  Speaker 2: than the obvious, you know, like with the obvious surface
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  Speaker 2: level understanding of it. But these people refuse it. They
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  Speaker 2: refuse it apparently on every level because I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I guess they're going to do sperm banks or something.
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  Speaker 2: But regardless, all right, women do not make babies without men,
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  Speaker 2: and there are many layers to that. It's it seems obvious,
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  Speaker 2: it seems simple, it seems sort of like a shallow observation,
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  Speaker 2: but there is actually a deep wisdom to it that
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  Speaker 1: Right, before we start, Yeah, before we start, though, we
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  Speaker 1: did it a super chow last night after Hannah show
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  Speaker 1: us over, but she didn't read it because it was
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  Speaker 1: after so I might as well read it out and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll go ahead and jump in. So the official
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  Speaker 1: Reverse Traditionalism channel on YouTube gave us five dollars and said,
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  Speaker 1: I think the easiest way to avoid foreskin creams is
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  Speaker 1: to choose hemp based creams, since most of them don't
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  Speaker 1: contain foreskin by default, hemp kicks ass. Thank you for that.
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  Speaker 1: That's not going to stop them. I think that one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why the Force skindna cream is popular
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  Speaker 1: is because it's foreskinna cream. And I think I think
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  Speaker 1: that there are people who want that, like they think
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  Speaker 1: it's it makes it more high end, right, So, but
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the suggestion. I just don't think Oprah will be convinced.
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  Speaker 1: Richard Bierre gives us five dollars. Now he just did,
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  Speaker 1: and he says, at some point in the future, women
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  Speaker 1: will just get a kit from Ikea to assemble into
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  Speaker 1: their desired baby.
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  Speaker 2: All right, thank you for that. I found it astounding.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you think that that the oppressor group of our
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  Speaker 2: society has parts harvested for the vanity of the oppressed group. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's never happened. I mean, it's it's new,
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  Speaker 2: it's completely.
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  Speaker 1: It's a completely novel. Way to oppress is to tell
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  Speaker 1: them to buy your four skinned cream, yes, from well,
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  Speaker 1: from construct if it weren't for the fact that we
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  Speaker 1: knew they were privileged, we might even suggest that a
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  Speaker 1: newborn baby is the most vulnerable member of society. But
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  Speaker 1: we know that they're male babies, so they obviously have privilege,
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  Speaker 1: does privileges, so they're privileged.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, privilege does a lot of things, you know, Like
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  Speaker 2: it justifies why we have an industry that uses baby
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  Speaker 2: foreskins to create face cream for women, and it justifies
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  Speaker 2: why we send men to war, and it justifies why
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  Speaker 2: there's workplace death, and it justifies why there's no real
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  Speaker 2: legal accountability for female sexual assaulters of men. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it justifies so much. It's such a it's a it's
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  Speaker 2: it is the Swiss Army knife of concepts that old.
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  Speaker 2: Male privileged privilege does a lot of work. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: under it's underappreciated how much work male privilege does to
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  Speaker 2: hide and allow people to just not think about stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Nice thought terminating cliche. Okay, let's shall we get into.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we were going through the section called our
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  Speaker 1: emotions do not work for us, but for our genes.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of like, you know, let's say, evolutionary biology.
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  Speaker 1: They're using as their data to push these notions, and
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  Speaker 1: they're they're excluding a lot of information too. I don't
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  Speaker 1: if you guys, remember we've done this is like the
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  Speaker 1: third or fourth stream we've done on this content. So
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  Speaker 1: we are at this section called sufficient economic and Social resources.
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  Speaker 1: So now we're getting into the money part, which is
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  Speaker 1: probably the most important part of this report. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Based on this investigation, we believe the most effective means
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  Speaker 1: for raising fertility rates could be to facilitate a further
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  Speaker 1: individualization of reproduction. This is not ideal, as most people
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  Speaker 1: still desire to partner up and tend to be happier
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  Speaker 1: in relationships. After all, our psychologies are strongly shaped by
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  Speaker 1: millions of years of pair bonding. But we are in
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  Speaker 1: a situation where the ideal is just not available. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: markets have become so frustrating for both sexes that many
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  Speaker 1: are just giving up. Not only are forty two percent
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  Speaker 1: of Americans unpartnered, but fifty percent of single men and
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  Speaker 1: sixty five percent of single women report that they are
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  Speaker 1: looking for neither short or long term matching. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna say anything to that paragraph.
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  Speaker 2: I well, well, getting to the money part, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like they're just saying, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess people would prefer to just pair up and
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  Speaker 1: have babies like the old fashioned way, but it's just
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  Speaker 1: not happening. There's no explanation, so I guess we just
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  Speaker 1: got to move on to some more technocratic methods.
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  Speaker 2: Uh okay, Well, there's they're skipping a lot of stuff here, right.
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  Speaker 2: Can they say that fifty percent of single men and
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  Speaker 2: sixty five percent of single women report they're not they're
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  Speaker 2: not looking for a neither short nor long term mating. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the problem is that this is this is okay, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna use I'm gonna segue, you know, you know that
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  Speaker 2: surprising every no one. I'm gonna segue. So they there's
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  Speaker 2: this thing they do with unemployment stats. You know unemployment stats, right, Brian, Like,
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  Speaker 2: who's susan employed? All right? So what they do is,
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  Speaker 2: after about six months or maybe a year, uh many
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  Speaker 2: people or or several years, people will become discouraged from
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  Speaker 2: trying to find employment, right, and in the employment stats,
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  Speaker 2: they just quietly shuffle those people under the rug and
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  Speaker 2: they stop counting them. So they only count as unemployed
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  Speaker 2: those actively looking for employment. They don't count those who
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  Speaker 2: have been discouraged after a protracted period of unemployment and
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  Speaker 2: are no longer looking. They just fall from the statistics.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason why I bring this up is because
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  Speaker 2: this is sort of the same situation here of single
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  Speaker 2: fifty percent of people or fifty percent of men, sixty
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  Speaker 2: five percent of women are no longer actively looking because
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  Speaker 2: they're discouraged, or it's highly probable that they're no longer
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  Speaker 2: actively looking because they're discouraged. To count them as people
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  Speaker 2: who are don't want a job is like counting those
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  Speaker 2: discouraged people who've been trying for years as unemployed as well,
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  Speaker 2: not unplo Lloyd, but just I guess happily not partnered
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  Speaker 2: with the job, right because they just they don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've given up. Yeah, yeah. There are people who
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  Speaker 1: are who want to be single, and there are people
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  Speaker 1: who just find it difficulty given forced to be single,
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  Speaker 1: and they've given up. Well, yeah, they are saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: they are saying forty two percent of Americans are unpartnered,
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  Speaker 1: but fifty of single men and sixty five percent of
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  Speaker 1: single women report that they are looking for neither short
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  Speaker 1: nor long term mating. But again, like, what what's the
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  Speaker 1: age group here? We're talking about well.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably young ish. But like I said, what this
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  Speaker 2: reports on is and there's no clear.
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  Speaker 1: And uh like unambiguous unambiguous.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's ambiguous what they're reporting here because there's not
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  Speaker 2: just there's not just people who don't want a relationship,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, there's people who are discouraged because it's
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  Speaker 2: been so long and they're lumping them both in without
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  Speaker 2: telling which it is. If it is discouraged, then the
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  Speaker 2: way that we deal with that is to somehow improve
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  Speaker 2: the situation for bonding, which I think is entirely possible
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  Speaker 2: based on my research on fertility and care bonding around
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  Speaker 2: the world. I think it's we could do it. We
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  Speaker 2: could one hundred percent do it. Now the question is
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  Speaker 2: do we have the will to do it? But we
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  Speaker 2: could do it if we did, right, So the question
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  Speaker 2: here is is it's if you take a population of
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  Speaker 2: people who are discouraged from finding a job or a partner,
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  Speaker 2: is the way that you deal with this just I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, giving them government money or giving them a
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  Speaker 2: job or a partner is what I'm getting at, right,
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  Speaker 2: If they want a job, getting them a job, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they're saying, well, I'm not looking for
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  Speaker 2: a job anymore. They're discouraged. Get in the job is
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  Speaker 2: what they actually want. You know, it doesn't matter if
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  Speaker 2: they're saying I'm not looking for a partner while they're
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  Speaker 2: saying that because they're discouraged. So we should get them
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  Speaker 2: or figure out how to fix the bonding regime of
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  Speaker 2: the West and get these people partnered. Not justifying more
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  Speaker 2: government grants or government oversight. That's going to ruin the situation.
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  Speaker 2: More like, not everything is solved by the government.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ was a matter of fact, very little is
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  Speaker 1: solved by the government. I also want to I also
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  Speaker 1: want to share the something about because I clicked on
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  Speaker 1: the links that they're using as their source. So here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing that's interesting. Is okay? For one, for the
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  Speaker 1: first part, not only are forty two of Americans unpartnered
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  Speaker 1: Pew Research Center in twenty twenty five. When you go
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  Speaker 1: to the link, though, it says that that percentage is
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  Speaker 1: going down, so people are partnering up. So it's trending
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  Speaker 1: in the opposite direction of what this study claims. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? So they say, not only
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  Speaker 1: are forty two percent of Americans unpartnered Pew Research, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five. But when you go to the link, it
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  Speaker 1: says it's actually it was worse before that. It was
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  Speaker 1: worse in twenty nineteen, for example, is when they did
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  Speaker 1: it last. So in twenty twenty nineteen it was something
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  Speaker 1: like of forty four percent and now it's forty two percent. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's forty two percent in twenty twenty three, which is
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  Speaker 1: the last study they have, and the share of adults
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  Speaker 1: who were married increased from fifty percent to fifty one
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  Speaker 1: percent between that same time period, So there's actually people
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  Speaker 1: starting to pair up more, which is a weird thing
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  Speaker 1: to cite when you're trying to make the argument that
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  Speaker 1: they're that things are getting worse when it looks like
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  Speaker 1: things have gotten a little bit better, not a lot,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, So it's it's a it's weird.
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  Speaker 1: And then the other part where it says, but fifty
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  Speaker 1: percent not I have read that, you know, no, fifty
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  Speaker 1: percent of single men and single women report what they're
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  Speaker 1: looking for neither short nor long term mating. And I
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  Speaker 1: go to that link and it's like, this puffy article
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  Speaker 1: about Valentine's Day doesn't seem like it's it is from
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  Speaker 1: Pew Research Center, but it doesn't seem like serious data.
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  Speaker 1: It's called for Valentine's Day five facts about single Americans.
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  Speaker 1: So this is specifically looking at single Americans too, not
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  Speaker 1: married people. And they're and they're drawing it from there,
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  Speaker 1: and so it's just interesting. I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 1: got your following what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, of course I am following what you're saying. I
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  Speaker 2: think it might be a little bit like within the
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  Speaker 2: realm of noise or movement. But yeah, it's uh, it
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  Speaker 2: does you well, it suggests they're presenting a different way.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there's they're they're trying to suggest that that it's
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  Speaker 1: getting it's bad enough that their proposed solution should be considered.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not. It's not like it's you know, gotten
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  Speaker 1: much worse than it has historically, at least like in
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  Speaker 1: this generation or whatever. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, let's read a bit more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's read a bit more. Okay. Unless we are
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  Speaker 1: able to turn this trend drastically around, which we consider unlikely,
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  Speaker 1: the next step for human reproduction could be to facilitate
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  Speaker 1: more individuals having children without a partner. Offspring were historically
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  Speaker 1: a responsibility for the forager band, then tribe, then three
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  Speaker 1: and two generational families. A future with more single parents
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  Speaker 1: would fit this trend. It could be viewed as a
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  Speaker 1: return to our early hominin starting point, framing the past
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  Speaker 1: few million years as an era of pair bonding, a
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  Speaker 1: temporary evolutionary compromise. So all right, of course, growing up
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  Speaker 1: with two parents comes with a line of benefits a
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  Speaker 1: motto two thousand and five. But if the post pair
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  Speaker 1: bonding fertility trap makes communities steer towards self eradication, compromises
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  Speaker 1: that forfeit some benefits but maintain societal survival should be considered. Certainly,
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  Speaker 1: do not.
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  Speaker 2: This is not like agree it, I don't know, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is a Cambridge study and these individuals did not
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  Speaker 2: look at the fertility rates of single women versus cohabiting
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  Speaker 2: and married women because single women do not have babies.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually we talk about this. We talk about single
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  Speaker 2: mothers a lot because they're disaster, but they're not a
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  Speaker 2: lot of single of motherhood when you actually and one
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  Speaker 2: of the problems is that we have on birth certificates,
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  Speaker 2: you have married verses unmarried. In certain countries and states,
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  Speaker 2: and that actually doesn't really show what's going on because
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  Speaker 2: most births are either to cohabiting couples or married couples. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the birth like the rate of births are lower in
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  Speaker 2: cohabiting couples because the relationships aren't as stable, but they
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  Speaker 2: are significantly, like a order of magnitude higher than they
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  Speaker 2: are with single women. And there is no indication that
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  Speaker 2: paying single women or will make more babies. Okay, there's
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  Speaker 2: there's no proof that this is the case, right, I
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  Speaker 2: know that I know Cambridge is going to is going
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  Speaker 2: to get a government grant for saying, hey, the answer
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  Speaker 2: is more government. But here this is a failure of
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  Speaker 2: research because at the very least they should have tested
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  Speaker 2: their hypothesis against the fertility rate based on relationship status,
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  Speaker 2: and then they would know it's dead in the water.
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  Speaker 2: Single women don't have babies, and when they do, you
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  Speaker 2: don't really want the products, like you you The problem
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: is not just that single women don't have babies, but
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: when they do have babies, those babies cost more to
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the state than they put in often right, they are destructive.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: This is a disaster on every in every conceivable level.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: This is a disaster and it should not be encouraged. Thankfully,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: single women are pulling them there, are ending their own
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: contribution to the genetic pool themselves. The only problem is
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: that we have a ideology that is increasing the number
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: of women who are choosing to remain single, not choosing brainwashed.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Really right to under the auspice of empowerment. But somebody
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: on their comments mentioned that this is an empowerment. It's detachment.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: It's the religion of detachment. And in this religion of detachment,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: these women are brainwashed to stay away from men by
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: lies about men. Okay, and I can prove that these
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: are lies about men, and I have for like twenty years.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: There is nothing that feminists assert about men that's true
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: except maybe that they have penises what weight? Shit, No, no.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: No, plenty of women have and plenty of men have vaginas.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Nothing, Nothing that the assert about men is true. I
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: have yet to find one thing, one feminist assertion about
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: men that's true. None of it is. It's all a
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: set of lies from stem to stern, starting well, not
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: even starting. Because the the the psychology of men in
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: masculinities field actually inherited from flex strain literature, which is
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: a direct inheritance from feminist patriarchy conjecture, right, so that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: that it is. It doesn't start with the psychology of
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: men and masculinity field, No, it starts back with patriarchy
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: conjecture and the belief that men oppress women and heterosexuality
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: is the site of female oppression. All right, what do
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you think that's going to do to women's desire to
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: have a relationship with a man. It's going to kill it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: And the more inculcated women are into this, the more
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: dead or difficult. Because it doesn't really kill the desire
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: to have a partner, It just makes it really flip
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: and difficult for women to actually partner up with men.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: They become their own worst enemies and it generates a
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: completely dysfunctional situation for prayer bonding. Yeah, okay, and I've
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: gone through it at length. What this does, I'll go
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: through it really quickly. When you say that heterosexuality is
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the site of female oppression, you are saying that getting
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: into a relationship with a man is self annihilation for
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a woman. What falls out of well, if she still
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: wants to have a relationship with a man, the only
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: variable to maximize is the status of the men, she's
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: choosing to be annihilated by right, that's out of control hypergamy. Right.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: And then if giving in is complicity with your own oppression,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: then consent becomes becomes almost diabolical because something that you
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: constantly want to refuse. That explains the absolute state of
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the the literature around consent and how it seems like
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: every year they're trying to constrain the men women's capacity
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to consent to men because but that essentially becomes complicity
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: with your own self annihilation. So you get worse and
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: worse and worse and more condemning policies and laws around
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: heterosexuality heterosexual interaction. Okay, and then also women become obsessed
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: with being removed, like having consent removed, which explains the
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: rise of dark fantasy, because they still want men. But
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: now you know, if you choose the man, you're complicit
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: with your own oppression. So it would be better if
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: he kidnapped you and force the choice like this is
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: this isn't the insanity? And I'm saying that directly sourced
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: from a feminist who says that men pursuing women is
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: rape culture and she writes, stalk herborn, are you square?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: That and this is this level of psychotic dysfunction. And
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: then and then again they will swarm. The Sisterhood will
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: swarm a woman who makes a sandwich for a man
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: who goes to construction to provide for her, who works
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: a construction job to provide or pay his part of
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the bills, or however their arrangement is the fact the
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Sisterhood will swarm her and say she's a fool, she's
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: a pick me. She's doing she's being taken advantage of,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: she's being denihilated. Meanwhile, you have all of these dead
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: eyed women talking about how the fact he didn't text
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: them after quitting or hitting and quitting is something that they,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: as a strong independent woman, they should just metabolize. You know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: he has every right. I mean, I'm not saying he
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: doesn't have every right, but they continue to get into
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that situation and then they say, well, I'm a strong
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: independent woman. I don't need no man. I'm just gonna
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: cry into my plush kitty doll, all right. And that
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: so absorbing, that tolerating that, tolerating being treated like a
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: sexual convenience is feminist. But making a sandwich for a
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: man who's committed to you for life is being a loser.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: You see, all the dysfunction that comes out of just
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: that one teaching, feminist teaching of the dysfunction that people
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: talk about with women, the insane standards, the inability to
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: commit because while they've been taught it self annihilation, right,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the crazy making behavior towards being pursued or being asked
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: out and then responding so badly, right, all of it
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: comes out of this that what they've been taught is
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: a dysfunction specifically apparently, judging from what feminists say, specifically
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: designed to basically break women's ability to pair, bond, to
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: destroy it at its source and turn them into an
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: unbondable mess of contradictions. Okay, right, maybe we could get
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: bringing it back to the topic, Maybe we could start,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: but get rid of that. But like I said, there
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: is there is, There is a solution. The question is
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: is there a will to pursue the solution. That's the question.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: All right, let's read a bit more.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, I got another superchow so or a couple more.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna read them and then I'll continue. The official
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Reverse Traditionalism channel on YouTube gave us five dollars and said,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: off topic, great female MRAs are cool and everything, but
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of red pill women are
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: kind of sketchy characters. I feel like a lot of
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: them like going into spaces for vulnerable men and saying, yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: we're doing boys. Women will always have impossibly high standards
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and then turning around and saying, by the way, that's
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: why you have to feed my high standards. Thank you
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: for that. I got no comment. Richard Beierre gives us
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: five dollars and says like, we haven't seen the results
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of government enabled single motherhood. I shuddered to think about
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the consequences of many single mothers being Carrie Bradshaw's or
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Manifestell types. All right, thank you.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Manifestel would never associate with anything that can't bring its
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: own bag. No, that that creature is not going to
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: have children, Or maybe she does and she has a
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: she has a normal, loving relationship which she just hides
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: from camera camera while exploiting the hell out of the
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: women who listen to her.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Yep, okay, all right, so now back to this. Certainly
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: we do not argue against pro natalist policies that target couples.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Quite the contrary, we think this strategy is also a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: good idea, although one that is unlikely to have a
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: strong enough effect. So again they're telling you we're doomed.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Just go with our idea. We don't disagree with your idea,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: we just don't think it's going to work. We therefore
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: see a need to rethink how postpar pair bonding society
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: supports single parents to incentivize more individualistic reproduction, people willing
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to have children alone could be offered additional societal I'm sorry,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: additional social and economic resources. People. You mean women. They're
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: not kind to give that to men. This is not
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a vision of women rejecting men, but of a society
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: that ensures women who cannot obtain commitment from acceptable partners
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: are not prevented from becoming mothers, so that survival level
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: fertility can be restored even if pair bonding rates remain low. Conceivably,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: piloting such supports could refocus national attention on the fertility crisis,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: nurturing a wider pertonatalist culture that, beyond enabling solo parenthood,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: might also raise fertility within relationships. All right, do you
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: want to say anything to that paragraph? Or should I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: just keep going?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Let me say I'm busy arguing with punished claude a
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: fertility or conceivably piloting such supports could refocus national No,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: we've done this, they've done this. These kinds of incentives
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: may provide a short, temporary boost, they do not fix
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the problem, because the problem is the para bond formation
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: that is the only okay, so survival level fertility can
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: be restored even if paon rates nolo. No. The presumption
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: of all of this, that all of this lies on,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: and why I titled this, is that men are a
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: optional feature to human fertility. They are not okay, and again,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: yes they're single. Women can have children, although often I
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: think it's well whatever, some single women do have children,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: a very small number of them do, okay, But from
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the overwhelming majority of women, they are not going to
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: have children without a man in the picture. Because this
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: is the thing, and this is my hypothesis a bit
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: different from their hypothesis. Not all of my hypothesis has
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: to be true, just because a lot of this is
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: just what I observe. My hypothesis is that because human
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: reproduction is so difficult, and what I mean by that
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: people don't think that, don't realize it is. It is
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: very resource intensive, and in particular it's difficult. For one,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: are a couple features that human beings have. Okay, our
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: children get heavy before they get mobile. A chimp baby
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: can cling to its mother throughout most of its early development.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: A human baby cannot. So human babies need to be
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: carried everywhere everywhere, but they have no ability to cling,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: so they have to be actively carried. That's really difficult.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: And as they grow they gain weight faster, then they
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: gain the ability to move. The point at which a
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: child can reliably keep up with an adult group is
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: seven at about forty five to fifty five pounds. Okay,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: that's when a child can rely. They gain the gate
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: arranged gait. So what that means is that they can
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: walk for long periods of time. They're still not capable
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: of managing complet like the full scope of adult motor locomotion. Okay.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: And the reason why this is so complicated and it's staged.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: There's developmental stages is because bipedalism is an incredibly costly
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: form of locomotion. It takes many developmental stages to actually
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: get to an adult ability to engage in bipedalism. To
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: adult locomotion all right, So a child at seven fifty
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: five pounds forty five to fifty five pounds finally has
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the ability to keep up with an adult in good conditions.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: That's not bad conditions, because a seven year old child
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: still hasn't developed the adult balance necessarily for necessary for
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the time type of locomotion that allows for conservation of energy.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: So a seven year old child is working harder to
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: stay up stay with adults, probably why they eat so much.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: They're working harder to stay with a group of an
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: adults than the adults are keeping up their pace because
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: they don't have the necessary properceptive development to have the
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: gait of an adult, like a complete gate of the adult.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: But they still have the ability to balance and move
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: in a way that they can sort of keep up.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: So even after seven children in a nomadic group, which
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: is probably how we evolved, would still need to be
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: schlept around at points when it's particularly hot, when the
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: ground is particularly rough, if if they're walking very far,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: so you know, they can maybe manage a couple hours,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: then they need to be carried or they need to rest,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and then they can do a few more hours. So now,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: and this is the limitation, right, so somebody has to
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: carry them or you're gonna get a lot of a
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: lot of tiger uh, tiger chow. Human beings are gonna
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: be producing a lot of tiger chow, not babies, okay.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: And that that need to be carried doesn't stop at seven.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: It stops being critical at seven. It doesn't stop at seven.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: It keeps going until you're past you till you're through puberty.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: At that point you've gained an adult ability to have
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: this kind of gait that is conserves energy, which again
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: requires adult violence, and also you have adult thermal regulation.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: So one of the big things about children is that
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: if you push them to adult levels of strain, they
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: could die because they can't thermal regulate like an adult.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: So they're very so they're heavy, they don't move very fast.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: They require somebody to carry them up until they're through puberty. Now,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: not a lot once they're between seven and like twelve,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: but occasionally they're going to require someone who's capable to
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: pick up something about eighty five fucking pounds and run
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: with it. Right, And that's during our evolutionary history. Now
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. If one of the critical factors for
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: a human Hueh child to live to the point where
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: it itself can reproduce is that it has someone careful
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: capable of carrying something really heavy? Right, what does that
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: point to? I'll just I'll leave it as an open question.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Do you do you get where I'm going here? Brian?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, all right, okay, let me let
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: me just let me just clarify. Okay, I know I'm
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: ranting a bit. Okay. Human children need their fathers to survive,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: full stop. That's how we evolved. In a very literal,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: literal mechanical sense. They needed an involved party that was
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: capable of carrying a child up to the age of
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: seven and thereafter it bursts up to the age of twelve.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: And this seems so simple, But I invite you go
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: to any fair and watch this process in action. Don't
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: watch like the women with their strollers. Only Hussies have strollers.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Real women have men, right, and just watch want the
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: fathers and how much they're picking up and carrying their kids.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: This is part of our This is part I. This
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: is my hypothesis. This is part of our evolutionary history.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: That necessity of having an involved party apparent capable of
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: carrying that much weight meant that we survived by pedalism,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: because by pedalism is.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: History.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: So no, we didn't. We didn't even have really hearts
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and places a very like. We were nomadic, so we
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: moved around quite a bit. Okay, so this is like
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: and again this this concept is so obvious and yet
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: people resist it. But I'll leave that out regardless. If
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: my hypothesis is there would be an incredibly strong bond
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: between men and women necessary to actually get a child
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to the point where it became a creature capable of survival. Like,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: think about it, think about the think about the limitations
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: that bipedalism puts on us in terms of development. You
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: are not able to keep up with adults until you're seven.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: You aren't really able to keep up with the with
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: the entire group at every speed until you're twelve. You
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: need a parent who's capable of carrying that much weight.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Believe and guys, women aren't. This is one of the
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: things that has been consistently found in army studies. Women
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: cannot carry as much weight as men. I know this
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: that that seems pretty obvious, right, But you know what's
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: really interesting is when you look at the empirical studies
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: from the Army for the last two centuries. They have
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: found precisely the weight that the average infantryman can carry
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: indefinitely without impacting his ability to fight or you know,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: strike up camp or work, build something. Right, they found
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: the weight that an adult male can carry indefinitely without
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: impacting his ability to run, fight, hunt, build. You want
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: to know what that weight.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Is, Brian, Uh, sure, it's.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: The weight of a seven year old child, that is exactly.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: And this is over two centuries that the Army has
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: found and looked at infantrymen and what they can carry. Empirically,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: they found it in like the Civil War, World War One,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: world War two, and you're talking about different generations of
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: men that have different levels of fitness going into the army,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: so they do have to be trained to be able
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: to carry this much, but they all end up being
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: able to carry this much. They can carry indefinitely without
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: impacting their endurance or their ability to do work or
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: fight or hunt or whatever. The weight of a seven
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: year old child forty five to fifty five pounds, which
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: is one third the weight of an adult male. And
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I have a lot more where this came from, but
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: if you think about it, If we're in a situation
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: where the only way that bipedalism works for our species
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: is highly involved fathers that are willing to stick around
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: and carry these heavy creati critters that can't keep up
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: for however long is necessary, then the bond has to
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: be that much stronger. And also it's going to be
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: written into women's instincts, okay, and that instinctual, that instinctual
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: pattern will be I don't want to even start this
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: process unless I know he has my back. I don't
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: want to I don't want to have sex. I don't
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: want to get involved until I know he's gonna stick
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: around to carry the child while it needs to be carried.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: And this is the and I'm talking. This is before
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: hunter gathers. This is before huts, This is before teepees,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: This is before dogs as beasts of burden. Okay, when
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: we had nothing but each other, that would be the
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: limiting factor. And that would mean that the only one,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: the only thing that unlocks female fertility is a man
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: who demonstrates that he has bonded to the woman, that
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: he has or back, that he's gonna stick around, he's
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: gonna carry the damn creature until it can walk for itself, Okay.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: And that means that the only thing that will make
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: the human race fertile again is to restart human pair bonding.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: That's it. Women are not going to have children outside
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: of it, because it's a necessary factor for women to
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: become fertile, to want to have children, to be willing
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: to do that. And that's why all of the sex
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: involved in the hookup culture hasn't produced a baby boom,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: because that's not actually opening the door for women's fertility,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: and it won't. The only thing that opens the door
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: is a pair bond. That's it. That's what we have
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: to fix or we are not going to fix our
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: fertility problems. And if that's the thing that opens the
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: door for our fertility, then we need to start looking
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: at all of things that are slamming the door shut,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: start progressively getting rid of them. Okay, I'm done, my rant.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I know that was a long one.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, all right, let's get back to this.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Uh Okay. Today, even a prosperous and feminist nation like Norway,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: apparently they just feminist means good. It's a good nation.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: So there is this is their example, all right. Today,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: even a prosperous and feminist nation like Norway, such a
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: program is probably unfeasible. Financial incentives to single parents are
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: among the most generous in the world, but few women
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: deliberately pursue single parenthood. For the government to step in
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: with resources equivalent to what a partner would contribute could
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: be too costly and reduce the national income. The fact
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: that the Nordic nations are among the world's riches is
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: significantly due to high female labor force participation. A central
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: pillar of the Nordic model is that all who can
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: who can work, should work, and that mothers should return
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: to work within a year of giving birth. Okay, okay,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: that is bullshit.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Nordic nations are among the world's richest. It's because they
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: have tons and tons of resources, which you're nationalized. Like
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: what the okay, all right, whatever, let's let's keep going,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: The mandate for the Norwegian Birth Rate Committee specified that
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: no policy suggestions were allowed to challenge this work principle.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: If post pair bonding nations like Norway are to significantly
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: raise their fertility rate, we believe politicians must be far
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: bolder and more innovative and consider preparing for the future
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: by funding limited experiments to boost and learn what is
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: required to motivate single parenthood. Okay, do you want to
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: say anything to that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I don't want I want to say.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I want to know something about Norway. Go ahead, go ahead.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I okay. Essentially, what my long digression was establishing is
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: that if you think that the idea or the way
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: to deal with this situation is to promote more single motherhood,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: even though we have ample evidence that that doesn't work.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: It doesn't work. Single women do not want to have children.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it happens by accident or whatever, but
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: they don't want to have children, right. The evidence is unequivocal.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: If you want children, you need to get women pair
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: bonded again, and you need to get rid of everything
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: that's in the way of that, and that isn't men.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: By the way, like this is a little friend. The
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: funny thing is that every every other place that talks
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: about this always seems to land on men have to change, right,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Men have to somehow square that circle when it comes
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: to women's deranged and disordered expectations, which are not actually
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: deranged and disordered. If you understand what they've been taught
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: about heterosexual relationships and relationships with men and what men are.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: They're perfectly rational when you look at it. And what's
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: deranged and disordered is that we keep teaching women girls
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: and women lies about men. We keep making the way
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: that men love illegible to women, right, we keep saying
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: that heterosexuality is the site of oppression, right, and that's
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: impeding their process of finding you know, like I always say,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: go down to the park. The men in the park
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: are free, and it's like the resources right there. So
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the only way to stop the pair bonding is to
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: make give women a dysfunctional belief about it and about
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the people that they would the men that they would
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: pair bond with, and and like there is yes, men
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: are immature, women are more so. But the thing is
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: that bedding in a bond matures you. So it's like
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: even the whole Oh, women, men are too childish to
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: that's bullshit. It's it's like, yes, everyone is until they
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: actually take responsibility for something beside themselves. Yeah, but anyway,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: it's like this constant drumbeat of blaming men when men
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: are the thing that women would want if they weren't
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: being lied to about what men are. This seems to
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: be the most astounding radical thing to say in this
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: day and age. But we are a biparental species that
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: engages in pair bonding. A male is what the female
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: is supposed to want. The end astoundingly controversial to say here,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: but this is just from first principles, and not just that.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: We're not just any biparental pair bonding species. We are
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: the biparental pair bonding species because our form of locomotion
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: is so expensive and our children are so heavy, so
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: they're developmental stages are almost obligate. We're actually, I would
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: say they are obligate. They're paternal obligate. So children in
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: the wild don't like having the contribution of a father
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: isn't optional. It's the thing that stops them from dying,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: from not existing anymore. And a species with that kind
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: of limitation to its fertility and reproduction is going to
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: make sure that that that that reproduction happens in those bonds. Absolutely,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: So we're not just a pair bonding species. We are
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: the most pair bonded species on the planet, which is
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: why women don't reproduce outside of para bond and they won't.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: You can increase the single moms, you can give them,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: or so you can increase the single women as much
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: and give them all kinds of beanies for having children,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: and they won't, not in any significant degree. And in
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: fact they're decreasing how many times how many children they
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: have now. So for example, Australia actually tracks fertility of
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: single women, cohabiting women, and married women, because that's really critical.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: You can't just look at the statistics on unmarried mothers
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: versus married mothers because they don't show you which those
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: mothers are cohabiting in a lot of places, so they're
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: not the correct statistics to look at. But Australia does,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: and what they've found is that so for example, don't
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: quote these need these, don't quote these numbers, go look
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: for it yourself. But for example, there might be one
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: point three children for every cohabiting woman and one point
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: four to four for every married woman, okay, and then
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: like zero point three for every single woman. Like it's
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: an order, it's like a whole child down. So if
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: we if we want to run this experiment, we may
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: actually take if we want to encourage more singlehood in women,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: we may actually take a fertility rate that is not
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: at replacements. So it's not great right now, but at
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: least it's not I don't know Korea, right and we're
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: gonna take it, and we're gonna take it to half
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: of Korea by doing this. Yeah, and just because we
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: don't understand our own nature as humans and that pair
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: bonding is not an option, okay, we are obligate parental
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: or obligate paternal mammals. That means father is not an option,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: regardless if we have created an advanced civilization where he
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: feels like he's optional, he's not. He's only optional until
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: the society craters and we have to go back. All right,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: we can we can defer. We can defer the reckoning
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: like we can defer the reckoning of fiat. We can
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: defer the reckoning of fatherlessness. But it always comes to us. Yeah,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: flood comes. All right, let's read a bit more.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I got another super chat from or rumble
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: rant from a roboto one two, three, four, five sixty seven,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: and he said, are you sure single women don't want
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: to have children in the West. It's not about want.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I think that most women, like most men do, want
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: to find a partner but but yeah, like I think
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: they they But the problem is that women don't want what.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: They don't have children. It doesn't matter what they want.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter that they that whether or
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: not they want them, they're not having them as much.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Single moms exist, but they're not a big a big
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: part of the population. I guess of people that are
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: having babies, it's it's still mostly people who are paired.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: But okay, unless you're counting the black population, in which
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: case that's a different problem. But okay. We suggest that
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: two main elements are key to making individualistic reproduction sufficiently appealing,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: one economic and the other social. Women must feel economically secure,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: regardless of whether they want to work full time, part time,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: or not at all while raising their children. That is
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: why we propose experiments should begin soon to find out
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: what level of economic resource transfers are required for enough
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: women to choose to have children on their own. All right,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: So here's this is again, is an issue just with
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: this paragraph. Women must feel economically secure? Why what does
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: that look like? Why are we like deciding arbitrarily that
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: we have to follow standards that women have set when
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: women's standards are only set because they see the consensus
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: around them of other people saying the same thing, and
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I need to make that much more
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: than that's what I want. Like it's not even like logical,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: so to say, they're basically again, they're operating under the presumption, well,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: we know for sure we have to take care of women.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: That comes like society, whatever, civilization, population, none of these things, family,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: forget all that. How comfortable before we even get into that,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: how comfortable are women with whatever it is we do?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: And that's what we're following. So like they're basically following
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: the lead of women's desire in the moment, and they're
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: saying women must feel economically secure and then we'll go
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: from there. So and they don't even know how much
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: it's gonna cost. It says, that's why we propose experiments
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: should begin soon to find out what level of economic
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: resource transfers are required for enough women to choose to
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: have children on their own. So they got to figure
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: out how much free money to give women to have babies,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: and who knows what that's gonna be. No nobody else matters,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Nobody else matters. The children don't matter in this in
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: this formula, the men certainly don't matter in this formula.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: It's all what are the women want?
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: The only matter, the only matter in so far as
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: they pay for all of this. Mm hmm, So why
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: is it that? Again? I pointed this out like some
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: shows ago, and there was a course of feminists in
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: the comments who was doing the usual bad faith argument,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: why should men could? Why should men contribute to this?
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Why should men like why should men get jobs anything
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: over subsistence level?
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Why should they contribute to any of this? Why should
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: they contribute to a society that undermines them as mates,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: undermines their mate value at every available opportunity. And of
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: course the feminist bad faith argument was that I said
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: that women should be assigned to men, even though if
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: you assign a woman to a man, you're also assigning
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: a man to a woman. So I don't know how
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: that's anti woman. It's just sort of anti human autonomy,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Like you get that, right, Like it's you don't. An
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: arranged marriage is involved arranging the marriage for the man
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: and the woman, right, So they're both sort of assigned
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: to each other, which means you're assigning a woman to
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: a man every bit as much as you're assigning a
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: man to a woman, right, and they just omit the
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: fact that the man doesn't have any choice in this either,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: but that, let's just set that aside. That's not what
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's so far from what I'm saying. I
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: feel sort of stupid even addressing it. I'm saying that
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: right now, men are forced to contribute to a society
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: that lies about them, that undermines their main value. That
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't explain to women why men are important, why children
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: need fathers, right, It doesn't explain that any of that
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: to women, much less explaining to women how maybe to
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: have a relationship with a man in which you don't
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: like implode and destroy each other. And that's difficult too.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that more conservative women could actually
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: explain some of that. I couldn't. It's internal mystery to me.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: But anyway, like, this is a this is this is
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: what you're expecting men to contribute to a society that
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: in every possible way makes it so it's more difficult
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: for them to partner with a woman. And they're supposed
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: to be like, oh, yeah, okay, because you've made it
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: so difficult, You've injected women with such a toxic dose
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: of feminism that they believe that heterosexuality is the size
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: of their oppression, therefore choosing a man as a form
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: of self annihilation, which has created out of control hypergamy,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: terror of being pursued or just having a man say hi,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: and then every the whole suite of dysfunction. Because you've
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: injected this into women. Now I have to pay more
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: in taxes so that women can have children without me.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: So you've literally made it so I am not a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: good choice as a partner for women. And because you
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: did that, now I have to pay. Like, who is
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: going to sign up for this shit? Like I mean, okay, guys,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: this is shit. If you don't need to know, like
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: if you need like a woman to tell you this
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: is shit. This is shit upon shit. This is you
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: put some fuck in a bull, and then you put
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: some shit in a bull and you have a fuck
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: shit stack. This is a mile high fuck shit stack
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: that no man should sign on to if he has
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: a choice. You mostly don't have a choice, right, You
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: gotta work to survive. But good lord, how can they
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: even propose this with a straight face? They did get blowback,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: by the way, at least we have that right. I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: don't know who from, but literally, yeah, we poisoned. We
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: pull is in't the of pair bonding formation for you, guys.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: We told a whole bunch of lies to women about you,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: and we did it because while it's financially uh it's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: it creates a gigantic financial windfall right for us. We
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: did that, make a lot of money from it. So sorry,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: women don't want you anymore, why don't we just take
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: more money from you and they can have children without you?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know the gal Brian. Yeah, okay, I'm
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: gonna for sure, Okay, okay.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Uh, that is why we propose experiments should begin already
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: read that far. Okay. The other element is the social environment,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: as we explored while Hominin's so, okay, let me just
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: predict what they're getting at. They're probably gonna this is
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: like the it takes a village, okay, and it's probably
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be, excuse me, another avenue where men are probably
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: going to be expected to be a part of the
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: child rearing or child care process even though it's not
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: their children. Let's see. The other element is a social environment,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: as we explored while Hominins evolved to sexually reproduce as couples.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: This pairing up does not extend to raising children in
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: small atomized units. Even when females made it promiscuously, not
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: having the father around typically did not entail the mother
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: being on her own. Kin and other allo parents often
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: made crucial contributions to help feed and raise the child.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: In our modern world, such social networks have eroded. Women
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: who move away from kin to seek education or work
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: mostly lack to support that bans tribes, farms, and villages
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: provided in the past. We therefore propose that governments consider
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: experiments with establishing apartment buildings or other living arrangements centered
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: on the needs of solo parents and their children. So basically,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: they want governments to conscript people living in the same
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: building to raise the children or help raise the children
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: of single moms, and they want the government to mandate this.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: They're saying they should conduct experiments, but that will only
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: lead one way, and that is essentially to create a
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: mandate of this. And by the way, this notion, this
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: assumption that this pairing does not extend to raising children
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: in small atomized units. Literally like, I don't know any
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: families that are completely atomized from their extended family. That's
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: not a thing. They're making a claim. And I've heard
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: this too, by the way, I've heard this from people
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: like Tree of Logic and Natty who I've you know,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: this was a while ago, but I remember they were saying, nobody,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: the nuclear family is not a priority because the nuclear
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: family is atomized. And I'm like, no, it's not that.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: It's it's called the nuclear family because it's the nucleus
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: of a larger network of extended family members. Nobody unless
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: like they're all dead, like it's fucking your like you know,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne, Nobody is completely separated from everyone in their
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: family unless they made an effort to do that, to
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: atomize themselves. So this this they're making this this they're
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: they're basically prescribing something for a problem that doesn't exist,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: while they pretend it does. Because there is a term
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: called nuclear family, and some people think that means that
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: it's only a mother of father and children and no uncles,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: no aunts, no grandparents, no great grandparents, no tribe, no clan,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: and that everyone else that isn't related to these people
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: at all are supposed to be involved. Instead of extended family,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: you know, when I grew up in Chicago, and I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe it's a thing. I don't think it's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: a unique thing to Puerto Ricans. But like, we had
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: a family barbecue every year. My grandmother would basically be
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: like the head of event organizing. She basically remembered every
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: birthday of every person, whether it was her kids or
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: her grandkids, and everyone was invited to every event. Every
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: holiday and every summer we had, you know, a Fourth
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: of July or Labor Day. These are Fourth of July
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: like barbecue. Everyone was there. This idea that families are
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: adamized is a lie. It just is in my experience.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's true. And even here where I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: live is mostly white people, and they also they're all
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: still in touch with their family, they still do things
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: together as a family. So I guess what I'm getting
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: at is these people and a lot of others. Tree
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: of Logic has done this, and Natty's done this. They
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: have tried to make this ridiculous claim that whenever someone
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: says family, they're referring to only the mother, father, and kids,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: and that there's nothing outside of that, and that's retarded
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: because that's just not the way people operate. Okay, it's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: very unusual to just unless again, unless you made it
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: a point to like disown yourself from everyone in yours
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: and your spouse's network, you know. So no, I'm sorry,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I just had to say that. It's ridiculous. So yeah,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: and they're trying to create a Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: No, seriously, it is. And please feel free to speak
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: because I'm sure when I speak, people are like, what
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: the fuck is she talking about?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I I said what I wanted to say about it.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, it takes a village. Argument is bullshit because
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna work out unless, again, you have like
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, fucking cops in the building making sure
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: that the other people who are not related to these
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: kids are helping raise them, because there's like you're asking
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: strangers to be a part of the child raising process.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: When you have a man who is the father, the
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: most invested you know, outside of the mom, and you
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: have extended family members who because there is a blood relation,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: there will be more interest in seeing the child do well.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Do you want to invite invite predators into your home
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: because that's how you get predators, Like if I was
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: a I don't know, like a child molestor, and I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: wanted to get access to kids, I'd move into one
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: of these apartment buildings to pretend to be a normal person.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Why not. No one's gonna like, there's no father around.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: That's gonna kill me because I got a little bit
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: of inappropriate with his kids. That's what I'm saying, Like,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: these people are completely fabricating the problem and then creating
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: a solution that's even worse than the lie that they posed.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: So actually it's that is a very a very astute observation,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: and in fact, it's the modus operandi for a lot
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: of older women who prey on children. Yes, they will
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: find a single mother or maybe you know, like a
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: more marginal couple, and they will offer their assistance to
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: babysit the child, and then they're not suspected because they
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: are an older woman, and then they can you know,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: do whatever they want with the kid while the parents
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: or the mother is not able to take care of them. So, yes,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: this is going to be basically producing predator for actors. Yes,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: it's a horrible idea. Of all, everything in this paper
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: is a horrible idea. And again it's only being proposed
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: because we live in a society where it's a controversial
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: statement to say that women don't have children outside of
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: a parabod. Yes, some single women do, Okay, not a
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: very good outcome for the kids. But for the most part,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: the majority of women do not have children outside of
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: a pair bond and a father is a necessary component
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: for human fertility, and we can't acknowledge that. And we
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: can't acknowledge how much we've screwed ourselves when we created
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: this nonsense about heterosexuality being the site of female oppression,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: how much we absolutely boned ourselves when we did that.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Of course, we're not as boned as Korea, but Korea
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: is a special case. We could be as boned as
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Korea if we did this.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're on track.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, I have I know that we talk a
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: lot about reduction and fertility, but I've been looking much
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: more closely at it. And yes, we are in we
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: have a problem, but not as much as Korea, and
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think we could possibly have as much as career.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Korea is like the Canadian Canarian the coal mine. We
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: have the opportunity to learn and pull ourselves out of
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: what are what we're doing. If we take it now,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: that's the question. But if we do what these people
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: suggest we should do, which I really hope we don't do,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: we will take our fertility from I guess the US
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: is at one point six. I think Norway's at one
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: point five or something, maybe one point four. Right, they
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: will take that, and Korea is at one point seven. Right,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: we are going to take that, and we are going
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: to We're going to be looking at Korea with envy.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: If we do this, what they're suggesting in the in
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: the in this, in this piece, they will crater. They
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: will absolutely crater our fertility. They will creter it. We
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: can't afford to increase the messaging that around single theom
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: and women. We can't afford it because there's one factor
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: that's keeping our fertility up, and we will destroy it
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: if we pursue this. Yeah, it's it's it just won't work.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: And again I hope that they aren't really seriously suggesting
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: we're going to do this. Well, Okay, let me put
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: it this way. Maybe I'm being a little bit over
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: over sweeping. It might not be this destroys the one
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: factor left in the West that keeping that's keeping our
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: fertility up, but it will contribute to its destruction. And
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: if they actually got like and I'm just using the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: counterposta postle, you know, like just assuming for the sake
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: of argument, they they managed to make it so they
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: maximized single woman's fertility, we would still probably be at
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: half Korea. Well, no, we would be at half Korea.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Now what they're doing may not actually creater what's keeping
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: us from at the floor of about one point four
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: one point two one point four. It may not actually
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: affect that. But if they got their way and all
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: fertility was single woman's fertility, we would probably be at
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: half Korea. We would be one half Korea. We would
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: be basically sterile. This this would sterilize us. Now I'm
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: not saying that what they're proposing can sterilize us, but
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: if it fully materialized, these Cambridge scientists would sterilize us.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: All right, let's keep.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Go, yeah, okay. Offering twenty four to seven nearby childcare
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: could be key to convince urbanite women to reproduce today.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Being a single mother could prohibit the lifestyle to which
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: many have grown accustomed and have established to support themselves
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: financial for everything, and socially.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: If you pay for everything and have how somebody else
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: raised the child. Yeah, hey, guys, the solution is to
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: pay for everything for the woman and then have someone
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: else raise their child. This isn't even single motherhood.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: It's just single it's basically like state, Like, the state's
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: gonna raise everyone's kids. That's what it sounds like. They want.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: They want the state involved in raising everybody's kids. And
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: they are, they're they're basically it's like the final push
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: to get men out of the out of their homes,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: and they're acting like they're doing it out of a
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: sense of like duty or caring. You know, well, it
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: looks like you're not making babies anymore. Can't can't figure
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: out why that might be the case. But hey, while
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: we're here, how about we liquidate the entire idea of
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: family itself and just pay pay moms to have kids
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: by themselves. And uh, who's gonna pay for the other? Men?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: I mean they gotta They might as well. It's a duty.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: They have a duty to their country to pay moms
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: infinity dollars while we basically disenfranchise, Yeah, and to leave
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: them alone while we do that.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know, men have a duty to pay women
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: not to be mothers, not even pay women to be mothers,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: because they're gonna have they don't have to raise their
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: own kids, but just pay women to give birth and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: drop their kid off with a stranger. Yeah, this this
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: isn't This is a dystopian in the extreme.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Brian, No, No, it's just a say yeah.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: And this is gonna be a tax on actual like
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: women who form families and have children in the normal way,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: you know, the pro child way, there's gonna be a
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: tax on them. They're also gonna be paying this on
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: their families. Their families are gonna be paying this shit.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: They're gonna be paying for some woman somewhere to have
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: a child that she does nothing with, like she doesn't
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: even raise Oh and and she gets to have whatever
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: financial situation. So essentially, what they're saying is, guys, you're
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: gonna have women, and you're gonna allow them to live
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: in whatever financial state they want, like at whatever level
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: of wealth however they are accustomed to. They don't have
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: to raise their own kid, and they don't have to work.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: They can work part time, full time, whatever. Somebody else
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: raises their kid. That's what we're paying for Explain to
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: me again why this is justified on any level? Like,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: how did this get published? How did these people put
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: this before like a a peer a jury of their peers,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: peer review, And nobody in Cambridge was like, this is insanity.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: This is not just dumb, it's reprehensible. You're essentially saying
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: that we should create a slave class out of men,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: and we should ben should literally underwrite women's lives, because
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: how many women you know, might actually take this up,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: have a child, have their entire life underwritten, and then
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: just drop the child off wherever her duty's done right,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: somebody else can raise it, and now she's set for life.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: You don't think women are gonna take advantage of that. Oh,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: this is utterly reprehensible. I mean, this is anti human.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: And like nobody at Cambridge sat down with these people
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: and said, hold up, wait a second. Then nobody even thought, hey,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: maybe this is gonna affect Cambridge's reputation publishing something like this. No,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: this is all just acceptable. That's where we're at. That's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: where we're at in terms of hey, maybe we shouldn't
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: advocate to enslave half the human race. No, let's do
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: that now. No, slavery is back in style. Yeah, our
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: solution to the fertility crisis is to enslave men. There
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: you go, Bam, print it, Cambridge, rubber stamp it. We
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: stand behind this, says Cambridge. God damn like academic institution.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: At this point.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, at this point, all right, I got a couple
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: of paid comments here. So I got a super chat
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: from Albatross for five Thank you Albatross. And he says,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: this honestly sounds like they want to farm us like
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: captive animals. Like humans just pop out kids and the
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: zookeepers take over. Yeah, it's a proposal. They're floating. It's
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: just floating the idea. Guys, don't get don't get so emotional,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: don't get all caught up. No, they're just floating it.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Roboto gives us a dollar and says, I, upon looking
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: into it, marriage is not the same all over the world.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Examples before Britain, wife burning, Egypt, killing and mammifying the
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: wife of the pharaohs, et cetera. So forming a family
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: a risk. Uh, yeah, we don't do that anymore. I
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: don't think that that's true. Well, maybe we could bring
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: that back, Maybe we could, you know, just do I
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: think in India or they use to do this thing
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: where you know, if the husband died, they would just
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: burn them both, to burn the wife and the husband.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: I you know what, even if I'm just floating the idea, guys,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking for solutions, that's all. I'm not serious.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, just like the people who wrote this article,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, Cambridge, get on that. We need
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: studies done from Cambridge.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Get grant from Cambridge. Wife burning might be a solution.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: We're already floating slavery, guys, why not life burning? Like
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: why are some other atrocities from the past.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Let's just get keep our solution space open. That's all
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: we're saying. Don't get upset, just keep it open.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just you know, like I'm just saying, like you
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: never know, it could work out. I don't know. How
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: do you know if you don't try it. I mean
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: they did it back in the day. They must have
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: gotten something right, all right. Anyway, Knowing that their children
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: and always be looked after by childcare workers or stay
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: with friends who live in the same building would alleviate
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: alleviate central burdens of single parenthood. Again, children are preyed
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: upon in childcare as well by childcare workers, but we're
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: not going to talk about that because they're not as
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: bad for women as men, just men. I mean, that's
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: the I don't know what else to say. Dylan gives
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: us ten dollars and that's it. Thank you for the
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: thank you for the super chat. He didn't have any commentary,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: so I think he made He did leave a comment.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: I'll read the comment. He says, men are not going
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: to raise another man's genetic lineage. Natural selection punishes Couckultry
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: single mothers with experience on dating apps should be able
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: to see this, Okay. I mean it's not just that
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: men aren't gonna do it, it's also that women are
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: not going to raise other women's kids too, So like
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: they're not asking men to raise those kids, they're asking
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: men to pay for them. And that's it. That's what
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: they're getting at, and that the actual child rooming. There'll
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: probably be some like men involved in that, but they're
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: not gonna be it's they're not likely gonna be related
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: to the child. So yeah, it's their it's their plan,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: it's their pitch. Guys don't read into it too much.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: It's just they're just spitballing. That's why they wrote this
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: long ass paper on Cambridge all right. Anyway, Initial steps
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: in this direction could have been seen with the rise
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: of intentional communities or cohousing, where neighborhoods are designed to
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: promote both autonomous housing but also community living with shared
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: resources such as large kitchens and children's playrooms. Example, the
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Canadian I guess is a Canadian co housing thing, so
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: thanks Canada. Having such a living environment in which women
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: could be guaranteed a home throughout their children's youth would
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: likely facilitate stronger social bonds across families, as people would
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: be incentivized to invest in the well being of longtime neighbors.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Or the experiments could uncover that entirely different social resources
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: are necessary to create sufficiently appealing lives for single parents.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: We do not pretend to have all the answers, but
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: encourage and engage debate and creative experimentation to prepare for
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: a further individualization of reproduction. So they complain about atomization
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: of families, but they're also pushing for even more individualization.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: I guess that's okay when the atom doesn't include a dude.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: I can't like. Or we could stop telling women that
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: heterosexuality is the site of oppression. I mean, we could
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: do all of this, or we could do that, you know, yeah,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: we could completely restructure society. And incidentally, I know we
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: haven't gotten to it yet. But don't they propose that
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: men should have access to artificial wombs? Uh?
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: But not what?
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: But not?
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, what I'm getting at is all right? So well
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: my problem is should I should we should I start
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: talking about that or should we wait till we get
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: to it?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I think if we're going to get to it. The
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: next section is called male Marginalization and Demotivation, So maybe
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: they'll propose something for the dudes. We just had to
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: make sure we understand we've always devoted like everything up
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: to this point. We haven't even gotten to that section
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: yet to the women, so yeah, we may not get
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this this okay, but you guys realize where
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: we're going through this excruciatingly slowly. It is basically the
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: capstone of the Missingry mountains, Like this is this is
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: the this is the final boss of Missonry. This frickin' paper.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: But what I was gonna say is that I'm pretty
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: sure they propose that men should have access to artificial wombs.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: But my confusion is, if men have access to artificial wombs,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: do they also have access to taxpayers who underwrite whatever,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: uh whatever lifestyle that they want while they're raising their
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: children and not raising their children, just giving their child
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: to someone else to raise. So do men also get
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: to do this? You get what I'm saying, Brian?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like do men have access to the infinite lifestyle?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: No? Beanies, course not no, no, no, they got to
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: pay into it, they got.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: So essentially women get whatever lifestyle they want. They don't
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: have to raise the child or they're I mean conceivably
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: they don't have to even see the child. And a
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: man will have access to an artificial womb, but not
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: but still has to underwrite what what justifies underwriting the women?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: At that point?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: I mean really, if they're not the if they're not
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: the ones who are the like at that point, like,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: let's run this dystopia forward. At that point, is anyone
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: gonna blame men the slave class for just rising up
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: and overthrowing the oppressors, the class that has to pay
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: for everything and probably has to raise the children too,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: right at that point is it's like nobody's like, you know,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: there's no justification for this, none whatsoever. I mean, since
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: we're in the realm of the Lulu, why not just
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: run it forward to the inevitable rise of the men
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: and sex boss Like, this is the weirdest version. This
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: is the weirdest sky No no, the female sex box,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: female sex spots. Yeah, yeah, exactly because they'll be programmed
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: to do. But this is I think, Okay, this is
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: the weirdest like alternative Universe terminator Skynet fanfic yet Brian.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, well we haven't gotten the worst part yet,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think. But Albatross gave us five dollars super
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: chow and says a while ago, I hypothesized that feminists
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: want to build a cast system where both low ranking
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: men and women just work to make high ranking women
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: and their loyalists comfy. This sort of confirms it for me,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: all Right, Yeah, I have a feeling that because this
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: thing isn't workable, low class women or like poor women
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: are probably going to suffer overall. Well, they're going to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: even if it does, even if they do essentially get
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: funding to support their kids because their kids are not
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: going to be served well and they're going to be
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: the ones dealing with that alone. So yeah, there is
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: also that. All right, let's see. The attentive reader might
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: object that such development implies a socialization of reproduction, as
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: the costs of offspring to a greater extent would be
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: carried by society. That is correct. I like how they
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: just say society instead of like tax payers, which is men.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: But okay, that is correct. We propose an increasing socialization
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: of the costs of reproduction, but an individualization of the
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: choice of having children. We believe that for our modern,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: hyper individualistic psychologies, such a change makes sense. Now that
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: Homo sapien has become a post industrial urbanite. The costs
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: of having children are greatly individualized, while the economic gain
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: is socialized. Today's children rarely help out on the family farm.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Welfare states like Norway contribute generously, but parents still have
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: large expenses. Children, however, benefit society, albeit once they have
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: grown up. Parents invest heavily until the child is an
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: educated adult ready to pay taxes for decades, but those
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: funds do not befall parents. They go to state coffers
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: to benefit all members of society interesting, So they're already
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: for well, let me finish the paragraph. From this perspective,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: those who do not have children freeride on those who do,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: because everyone is supported by the younger generations when they retire.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: So they're saying they're basically raising children. They're the goal
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: is to raise children to be taxpayers themselves, to pay
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: into the system. So they're treating children like basically units
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: of production, not like living beings, while also making the
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: argument that they should be like it's better for them
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: as humans if there are no fathers in the home.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: So all right, Alison, do you want to say anything
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: to that. That's the last paragraph in that in that section,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if you want to.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: Say, well, all right now, I have done a lot
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: of research into this, unlike these these Cambridge scientists, who
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell they were on when
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: they wrote this. This is apps the They could have
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: done the least amount of research over demographic and fertility
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: shifts in the world and know that this is not
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: an answer and this is a joke. Well, let's just
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: take away all of the ethical considerations. Did they not
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: look at family composition and fertility around the world, because
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: I can tell you all right that single women do
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: not have children as a matter of course. Yes there
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: are exceptions, but not enough to carry the fertility of
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: a society. And if you require single women to carry
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: the fertility of a society, which is what these individuals
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: are proposing, then you will creator your fertility far below
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: even probably what you see in Korea. And it just
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: and the problem is that single women's fertility gets worse
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: generally generationally, so their fertility was higher in the past
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: when they could lean on uncles and granddads and brothers.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: Now that we're just dealing with men, deserts, nobody wants
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: to have children anymore because they don't have any male
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: influence to help ease the burden. Shall we say? Okay,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: so not just women. Single women have far fewer childer
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: than married women. They have far fewer children generation after
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: generation after generation. It's a decline. In Australia, married women
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: actually increased the number of children that they had over
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: the last like five years, if you can believe it. Now,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: what's happened in Australia. I use Australia because it's a
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: very similar situation to the West, because it is the West,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: even though it's in upside downland. Okay, in Australia, the
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: rate at which married women have children increased. Now the
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: rate at which single women had children increased marginally, but
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: only because there are more single women. There are less
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: married women, and they're having more children. And cohabitors are
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: right behind the married women, but just slightly lower. Okay,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: So women in relationships are the ones who have children.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: Now we're going to take this away from the West
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: and look at other places around the world and the
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: different types of family or or bond formation regimes that
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: they use. I just I don't mean regime is like
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: a negative thing. It's just like a way of bond brokering.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe I should use bond brokering, but it's just how
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: they form bonds generally. What are the social factors that
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: go into a man and a woman getting together in
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: a relationship? What is the institution, the social, the religious factors?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: And I've identified about four of them, four main ones.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: There are some subcategories of these four. One is cousin
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: marriage kin selection. Now, these two travel very closely together,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: but they can be decoupled, so you can continue to
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: have kin selection without cousin marriage, which is something that's
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: actually happening in the Middle East. They are keeping kin selection,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: but they are get moving away from cousin marriage for
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: obvious reasons because it's terrible. But they've kept kin selection.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: And the reason why the Gulf States in particular have
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: kept kin selection is because they've kept the laws around
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: male custodialism. So men retain their role as like the
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: patter familias like you would see in Rome, which is
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: very common around the world in the past, right, So
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: they are responsible for their family members. They help rate
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: with their wives, no doubt, arrange marriages, and that's how
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: marriages take place. Your father and his friend and their
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: wives will help arranged and their grandmothers or whatever will
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: bring two young people together and say hey, you're married now, bam,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: go to it. That's how kin selection works. Yeah. And
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: then then on top of that is the usually co
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: traveler with that is their selecting cousins so that they
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: don't water down the inheritance of the clan. They want
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: to keep it all in the family, which has unfortunate
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: side effects. And now they're you know, wising up to that,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: but they still have kid selection. In the Gulf States,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: because they still have those male custodial laws on the books,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: very resistant to any legal change changes there. So they're
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: continuing to get into relationships and have children in those relationships.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: But their formation is very different than the West. And
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: then there is like southern Europe and their particular regime
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: relationship formation regime is familial. It's somewhat similar to kin selection,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: except that the man and the woman are expected to
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: come together in a romantic sense. And what I mean
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: by a romantic sense is it's based on the Christian
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: concept of consent to the relationship and also that the
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: relationship is something that develops between a man and a
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: woman that the church sanctifies. So the bond exists outside
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: of the community of the family of the church, and
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: the church sanctifies the bond, so it's like its own
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: force that's coming into being in the world. That's the
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: romantic model of marriage, and it might be different than
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: the way other people refer to romance because it really
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to do with like courtly love or godocentrism.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: It's simply the idea. And this is this is something
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: that I think people in the West might struggle with
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: that this isn't universal. It's the idea that the bond
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: is between the man and the woman. That's what creates it.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: So their relationship creates the bond. They fall in love
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: and that creates the bond, as opposed to something that
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: is created through kin selection or in the East. In
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: East Asia, the bond is created by a matchmaker, or
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: at least initiated by a matchmaker. The matchmaker will bind
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: the man and the woman who work best together accorder
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: to whatever algebra that they have. So in East Asia,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: the regime, the relationship formation regime is matchmaking plus social obligation. Okay,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: so there is an obligation that people get married. In
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: East Asia, it's a social obligation. It's like getting a job, right,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: And the way that they do it and the way
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: that they make marriages happen is through matchmaking. There's kin selection,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: there's matchmaking. There's romantic love. Southern going back to Southern Europe,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: familial romantic love is the family will has is the gate.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: So the man and the woman may fall in love,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: but the father has to give his consent and the
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: family needs to know that. You know, there's the financial
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: needs have been met, so the family makes the has
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: a veto. Essentially, that's familial romantic love. So the love
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: comes between the man and the woman, it develops, the
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: relationship develops between the man and a woman, but the
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: family still has a veto. That's the familial in the
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: Southern Europe. In Northern Europe it is pure adamized romantic love.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: So the bond is seen as something that arises between
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: men and women. Now, the utility, like the infrastructure underneath
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: that is, of course men's pursuit, men's approach, and men's
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: willingness to endure rejection. Without that, you're not going to
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: find the family formation or the bond formation in the
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: atomized romantic Northern Europe. Okay, And let's see, there's it's
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: not just Northern Europe, it's also it's basically wherever there
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: was Christian societies is the romantic notion of love went
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: with it. And again, the romantic notion of love is
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: that the bond arises between a man and a woman,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: is sanctified by the church, is recognized by the community
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: and the family, and sanctified by the church. I know
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: that there's other definitions of romantic love, that those are
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: not what I'm using so it does not require demonstrations
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: of subservience by the man. It doesn't require him or
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: any of that other stuff. It's just a recognition that
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: the bond arises from the relationship between a man and
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: a woman, usually through Christian courtship, which isn't supposed to be,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: you know, please her. It's supposed to be slightly arduous,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: something that they have to get through with discipline. So
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: it's that's that's the traditional romantic relationship. Okay. So I
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: looked through all of the fertility factors plus the influence
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: of feminism around the world on relationship formation and children,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: and this is what I have discovered. Feminism kills relationships.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: I'll just let that sink in if you guys weren't
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: aware it kills relationships, right, I'm going to use an
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: example from the Far East Korea versus Japan, and it's
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: a particular type of feminism that you need to decouple
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: in order to understand what I'm saying. Japan has a
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: fertility rate of one point two. South Korea has a
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: fertility rate of point seven, and why there's that difference
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: between the two is really illustrative of what's going on. Okay,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: Japan has a type of feminism that's termed when women
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: economics or women. I can't say these portmanteaus, guys, it's
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: just impossible. But it's like women economics. So it's like
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: this idea that you get women out into the workplace,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: they're working. It still values motherhood, it still values men's
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: role and does not require men to challenge their own masculinity.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: It's also I use Japan first because this is the
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: least controversial. It's also the communist version of feminism, which
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: is a feminism that's about getting women in the workplace,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: female education, that kind of stuff. But it's not about
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: challenging men's role in society or their worth as husbands.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: So there's no negative, negative stuff. That's I mean, Communism
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: has a whole bunch of economic problems, but this is
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: not one of their problems. They don't have Western feminism.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: Western feminism is about challenging men, challenging their masculinity, men
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: challenging their role, and this idea that heterosexuality is the
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: site of female oppression and pushing that. It's firewall feminism
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: is what I will call it, firewall feminism. Korea has
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: firewall feminism Japan has maybe you could call it more
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: like pro pro female workplace kind of thing, if that
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: makes sense, just like pro female employment, pro female education
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: and that kind of thing, but known anti male stuff, right,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: less or at least significantly less of it. But both
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: of these cultures have similar economic problems. Well not similar,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: because Japan has always been a credit or nation, whereas Korea,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: because of the Asian financial crisis, is a debitter nation
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: or was right, so there's that in the past. But
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: they have similar social pressures, similar lack of I guess
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: economic mobility. But again Japan one point two Korea seven
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: almost half. Now why is that, Well, because their culture
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: is a match making culture. It is a culture in
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: which the matchmaker. Yeah, Japan is a matchmaking culture, as
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: it's Korea. So when that central role was destroyed, they
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: no longer could partner up. However, what's happened in Japan
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: is they've created a digital matchmaker, right, so they've just
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: gotten into the twenty first century and they've just made it.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: It's not like Tinder, because the Japanese aren't about hookups. Apparently,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: it is about matching people in terms of their economic station,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: their values, you know, basically on factors that would lead
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: to a marriage. Okay, and now they've at least kept
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: their fertility at one point too, because they are actually
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: getting people into relationships, which is the key driver of fertility.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: What's happening in South Korea? Why can't they install a
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: matchmaker like Japan? Did they just update the concept of matchmaking? Well,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: they have matchmakers in Korea. They are being attacked by
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: the feminists as regressive and patriarchal. The firewall is literally
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: eating Korea's attempt to regenerate the matchmaker that Japan has.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: So this is the clearest case, like the clearest case
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: of feminism eating fertility, the feminist firewall eating fertility in
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: the world. But there are other interesting cases because if
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: you look at, for example, the ex Soviet bloc countries
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: which transitioned into a Western economy in like the nineteen
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nineties, they also had a feminist firewall installed
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: during as not necessarily at transition, but at some point
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: after through all of this feminist funding, this international feminist funding,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: and what she sees with these ex Soviet block of
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: combay economies, now they already had high female labor force
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: participation because of the Soviet system. They had high female
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: labor force participation, high female income, high female employment or
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: sorry education right, all of this, but it was more
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: of the Japanese style of feminism, which is, I don't
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: even want to call it feminism. It's like a kind
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: of pro pro woman thing going on, just like, yeah,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: we want women working and whatever else, pro female employment.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: It's not firewall feminism. That shit is just toxic and anyway,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: So they had already all of that stuff, but then
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: they go the funding bodies, the World Bank, the European
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: Bank of Development, the development banks go in there and
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: they install the feminist firewall and their fertility craters because
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: it attacks pair bonding.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: So now what we have around the world is we
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: have these different regimes of former family formation. We have
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: the key societies, that's what kii societies, basically kid selection societies,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: cousin marriage optional societies. We have the matchmaker societies, and
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: we have the romantic model societies. Yeah, I think there
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: was a fourth one, but I'm blanking on it. I'll
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: remember in a moment now, when you see the feminist
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: firewall installed in the matchmaker societies, you see the fertility crater,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: when you see it installing like the romantic Oh yeah,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: it was a familiar romantic societies. It does go down,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: but interestingly, it does not go down as much as
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: the matchmakers societies. So nobody really has gone down as
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: far as Korea. And the reason why it hasn't gone
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: down as far as Korea, and this is my hypothesis,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: is because the romantic model is actually resilient to it.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: So the one place where you would never expect the
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: resistance to feminism would be is in romance, but it is,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: and that this is what I'm thinking, is going to
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: be very controversial to people, but the romantic model has
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: proven very resistant, or at least more resistant than other
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: models to feminism. The advantage that the kin selection model
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: has is that it's retained its legal basis, which is
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: custodial law, paternal law, paternalism like pater familius. Basically the
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: man is the head of the household, all of that
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: suite of laws, which has kept kin selection alive in
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: those countries. They are also declining like the West due
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: to developmental factors. So as a culture develops, its fertility declines.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: They're seeing that as well, and the same kind as
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: the West saw without any kind of advantage. So the
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: kin selection cultures don't have an advantage over the romantic cultures.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: I know this must be a surprise to people that don't.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: The reason why they are retaining even not going lower
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: is because those laws are staying in place. If those
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: laws disappear, they're going to go like probably going to
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: go like Korea. Right, They're gonna end up like career
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: because Korea had similar laws prior to the the sorry, guys,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: prior to the reforms after the Asian Crisis. And why reforms,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: I mean that they liberalized their employment laws in order
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: to get rid of all the men who were employed
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: in these these family cartels so that they could sell
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: them as assets. Right, But yeah, it's like it's liberalization
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: of the entire thing in Korea was driven by liberalization
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: of employment law. But that destroyed the custodial role of
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: men in their families as providers and protectors, which then
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: subsequently caused their entire family formation to crater. If that
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: happens in other like not they're not matchmaker cultures, their
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: kin selection cultures, but if that happens in kin selection cultures,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: it's likely they'll see the same crater. However, what we're
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: seeing in romantic cultures is they are already fully like
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: they're already under full force of the firewall. See what
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like the firewall is already raging in romantic cultures,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: and the fact that they haven't lured out like Korea
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: without the benefit of the kin selection patter familius laws
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: is actually astounding. It's actually really astounding. Like I know
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: that this. I don't know if I've explained this in
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: a way that's really clear, but the Christian form of courtship,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: the Christian form of family relationship, is really resilient. We
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: have legally stripped out all of the patter familias that
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: keeps the kin selection form going and even the matchmaker
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: form going in Korea, right, and we are under full
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: force of the feminist firewall, and we are still breeding, Like,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: holy shit, guys, that's astounding. Like, I think what we
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: need to do is not the despair. I think what
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: we need to do is just get rid of the
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: you know how like Goku when he's doing his his training,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: he's wearing a weighted vest. Yeah, let's get rid of
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: the weighted vest. Hi, See what happens like if we
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: could get rid of the weighted vest, we might be fine.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: We might be better than fine anyway. That's that's what I
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: found out from my look through the fertility situation around
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: the world. It's not as bad as it is, not
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: as bad as we as we as it could be
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: because there is a potential solution, right, Yeah, there is
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: a wall of it, and the West could be could rebound.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: It's already like higher than a lot of like a
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: lot of other places. And again, the kin selection cultures,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: if they were in the same trajectory as the West,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: they would not have any advantage at all. Like all
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: of the numbers that are the people, all the countries
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: that are like four kids, three kids, they'd have no
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: advantage if they were in the same situation as the
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: West is right now, and they might have had they
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: might actually be at Korea level if they were dealing
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: with the lack of custodia laws like the West is
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: dealing with. So the West has two things that it's
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: dealing with that nobody else has dealt with successfully while
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: retaining at least a floor of fertility. It has to
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: deal with the feminist fire law wall, and it has
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: to deal with the loss of the custodia laws, right,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: and both of which haven't completely floored its fertility like
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: in Korea. Right, So again we're doing pretty good. You know.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: It's probably thanks to what's left of Christian romantic marriage formation. Right.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: It's it's what's left of that idea that relationships come
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: out of the out of them, like the relationship forms
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: between a man and a woman, right, it comes out
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: of that. And it interestingly enough, that is the one
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: form of relationship formation that's closest to what it is biologically. Right,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: So the relationship comes out of the man and the
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: woman coming together. Okay. That is the one thing that
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: is resisting everything in our society. It's throwing itself against marriage,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: family formation, and having children. That's the one thing that's
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: actually standing up like against all of it. Okay. So
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: eventually it may be that, I don't know, it's just
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: gonna have to break. What's what's restraining it is just
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: gonna have to break. And if we want to help
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: that along, then this is this is this is my
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: solution set. It doesn't involve taking taxes from women or
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: sorry for men and giving them to women. It involves
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: presumption of shared custody. Right, you might, you might recognize
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: all of the things that I mentioned presumption of shared custody,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: So fixing the divorce laws that unfairly target men. And
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: why would that help? Because it makes relationships more solid,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: which means women have the benefit of fathers who are
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: fully invested in children they know they're not going to lose,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: which increases women's fertility. Okay, we need to start recognizing
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: that men are victims of sexual assault and domestic violence.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: Now why is that important? It is a direct contract
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: like contra argument to the demonization of male sexuality and
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: men in relationships. That's one of their feminist main pillars
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: of demonizing men's sexuality and men in relationships. One that
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: men are somehow more sexually violent. No, that's not proven,
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: and two that men use domestic violence to uphold patriarchy
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: in relationship. That's the whole sight of heterosexuality is the
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: site of female oppression. Right, you challenge those two things
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: and you erase that from the board. It's gone there,
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: It has no basis to assert itself. Okay. And we also, yeah,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: we challenge the idea that provision by men is oppression. Okay,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: that will reverse a lot of feminist problems. So I
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: mean there's other stuff we could do. Also, we get
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: rid of the mauline, the the psychology of men in
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: masculinities field. Maybe our suicide rates for men will improve
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: once we stop telling them that they only get mental
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: health treatment. If they acknowledge that their masculinity is the
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: source of their problem and that they are a burden
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: on the world. Perhaps we can improve the suicide rate
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: if we stop telling men that. Okay, that'll that be
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: the other thing we need to do. Stop having men
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: kill themselves so there are more men for women to
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: pair up with. Right, that's just to start. There are
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: other issues that we could deal with, often referred to
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: as men's rights issues, and then our fertility rate would
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: be fine, be good, We'll be fine. We're all fine. Right,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: that's all we need to do, guys. We just need
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: to correct these problems, and then the human race will
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: be fine, better than fine, will probably be on our
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: way to actually being a frickin' speace. He's worth a
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: membership in the Galactic Federation. Okay, I'm done. There you go,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: that's my solution.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the end of that section. I did get
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: some more superchows and stuff, so I should read them
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: out and maybe since it's been two hours, we can
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: pick up on. Now we're gonna get to the point
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: where we're actually gonna see if we can address men.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: I won't, I won't show anything. I'll let you guys predict.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: What do you think they're there? I don't know. Prescription
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: is for men that might find themselves paying into a
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: system and not having any kids to show for it.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: No legacy, who cares? Right? What's your last name even
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: mean anymore? That's ancient whatever. Nova Fan gives us a
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: dollar and says, accept men are still not overthrowing their oppressors.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: Case in point in cells and White Knight simps. Most
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: likely outcome is withdrawing and retreating to other nations. Yeah,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: well that's not sustainable either. But Robato gives us two
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: dollars and says sexpots will be teachers and to teachers
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: soon for teenagers. Not enough people are buying sex bots,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: so something to look forward to. Well, they shouldn't have
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: made them all, No one's gonna use them. Uh. Nova
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: Fan gives a dollar and says, I know this was
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: from a different video, but when you say women were
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: always educated. The feminists conflate that to claim you support
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: girls being put into the communist system of schools not
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: the same. Okay, that's all that.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: Wait what does that mean? Did you read it again?
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: No idea? Okay, I know this was from a different video,
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: But when you say women were always educated, the feminists
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: conflate that to claim you support girls being put into
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: the communist system of schools not the same?
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: Yes? Maybe?
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: Well wait minute, though, I feel like what feminists are
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: you talking about? And also, what do you mean by
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: communist system of schools?
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: Woman comics? That's what it was, Okay, what womanomics? So
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: womanics is basically female employment and education without promoting female
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: employment in education, without promoting heterosexuality is the site of
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: female oppression. Womanomics, that's the word. Okay uh. And to
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: answer this person, I don't think the feminists know what
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: the communist system really was entailed, right. It's not just
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: that you know, modern woke communists don't know what communism is.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think they realize that in communism, or like
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: legitimate and like Soviet communism, their concept of equality was
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: women should have equal right to be masculine too. Like,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: it's completely different than what they're thinking. So I don't know,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: Like you can say, feminists are delusional about what I
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: mean by female education, but they're delusional about everything. So yes, no, hm, hm,
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: just I think I think you need an extra sentence.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: Your super chow is too compressed. It is too dehydrated.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: Add in another clause, just to explain and then I
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: can answer.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: Uh, he said, I was not talking about woman economics.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: I was referring to the education system that we all
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: think of for education. So the current education system is
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: what you're thinking of. Do you really think feminists don't
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: they don't support you really think feminists don't support that system?
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: They literally always talk about how, you know, college and
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: school is good because they wouldn't otherwise be crying victimhood
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: because of like you know, they they think, for whatever reason,
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: men are going to like not allow women to go
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: to school and get an education. When they complain about that,
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: they're talking about public education. They're not talking about homeschooling
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: or something that's like actually, you know, useful. They're talking
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: about the same education system that's currently made it to
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: where Generation Alpha can't read or do simple mathematics. That's
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: the system they support now. They don't know all those
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: bad statistics around it, but they're certainly not against it,
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: and they don't think it's oppression and they don't think
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: it's communists. I mean, if they do think it is,
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: then that means it's good because they support that because
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: it's state funded and they love the state. So I
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: think that we're kind of like crossing wires a little
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: bit here because you are just you're describing the the
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: education system as communists. I know you're saying that as
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: a joke because it's bad and it's shit and its
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: it exists only to make up, you know, generations of
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: people dependent on the state itself. But feminists are not
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: against that. They love that. So homeschooling is not public education.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: Women historically were not in the public education Yeah, but
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: they're all about women being in the public education system.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: What do you define as a public education system? Yeah,
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: because there wasn't one for the longest time.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for a long time, it was like Jesuits that.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: It was just like, yeah, it was basically the church. Yeah,
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: in many cases women would have had access to that.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: And honestly, women got into what we consider the public
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: education as soon as men did. Were it close too,
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: And in terms of like post secondary, women got into
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: that as soon as that you got more return from
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: participating in it than you had to give. So men
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: had to actually build it up before it was worth joining,
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: which is like a lot of institutions. Men sort of
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 2: build it up and women are like, why haven't you
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: let us in? Because we didn't construct it until now.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: We didn't construct it as a benefit until now, And
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: what a surprise. As soon as it's a benefit you
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: want in, Like that's the funny thing. Like, and I
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: wouldn't really like feminists have such a gewed vision of everything,
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: so I wouldn't compare what we're saying anything they say,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: aside from you know, fact checking them. Right. So and
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: again I think you need an extra clause in your
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: statement before it's really clear. It's not clear to me,
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: although I'm not the smartest person, So there you go.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: All right, So have anything further you wanted to say?
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: I think, I know, I think I've I've said it
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: everything I wanted to say. Yeah, a fan, I don't
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: think we're at cross purposes. You said, I define the
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: public education system as the one that is infested with communists,
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: So you're just talking about public schools. And again, feminists
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: are not against public schools. Feminists work in public schools.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: They are all about this. This is what they push,
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: so it's not a contradiction. They actually want more people
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: to believe as they do. You know, so I think
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: that I think that feminist women might hate non feminist
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: women more than they hate men.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: Oh we got let me just support this, Yeah, we
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: got to.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: Support from awesome.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: Let me I'm going to apply it. I shouldn't say
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: anything until it's it's applied. And the reason why is
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 2: I don't want to. I want to make sure I
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: use the name that he and tends me to use,
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: not the name that's uh. Aarin donated twenty dollars. Thank
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: you Eron very much. There was seven hours ago, so
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: it wasn't during the show, although it feels like it was. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: feel like this was productive like, I got a lot
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: of my research that I've been doing out, although I
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: think that I need to write a book at this point.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm actually starting. I'm starting writing up my
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 2: findings from this the the Psychology of Men of masculinities. Yeah,
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: because it is astoundingly bad sign.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure it is. Yeah, is really.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: Awful, and it's found. It's like it is literally funded
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: by the World Bank and the European Bank of something
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: are in development resources and development, i think, and the
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: europe and the World Bank is of course pretty much
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: controlled by the US Treasury, those guys. You know, everybody,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: everybody calls out the FED, but it's actually the Treasury
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: Department that might be the the evil brother. But anyway,
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a that it's it's crazy. It is crazy.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: Like for example, they have five they have the Conformity
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: to Masculine Norms inventory with five items in it. Okay,
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: two of which men reject. So this is basically the
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: conformity to norms that men reject. One are they're neutral
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: about and then one is they basically score the same
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: as women, and then one which is they don't want
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: to appear to be gay, not not that they dislike
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: gay men, They just don't want to people to think
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: that they're gay. Right, that's that is, that is the
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: entirety of the Conformity to Masculine norms index is riding
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: on the fact that men, straight men don't want to
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: appear to be gay.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's there you go, Brian. And you know what
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: they call it?
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: Sounds like men in masculinities. What do they call that?
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: They call that the male dominance masculine dominance Index. Yeah,
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 2: can you freaking believe it? Like two items slightly rejected,
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: one just neutral. One women score as high as men,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: and one is I don't wanna be mistaken for being gay,
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 2: you know, I find that curbs my luck with the ladies.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: That's that's it. And and the scale is the scale
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: of masculine. It was like, god, damn, this is and
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: this is the capstone of that entire field. One day
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go through I'm probably gonna go through it
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: with Hannah. Actually, I've already talked to her about it,
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: and we're it might be at the end of the
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: month that we do something together on this because it
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: is wild, wild, guys, It's it's amazing, all right, way
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: be the badger. You know, it's horrible, but at the
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: same time, there's something really satisfying and catching out a
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: liar and a lie, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: it's just like get flushing out the assholes, the predators
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: well and just being like, yep, here they are here
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 2: you go, this is them, Yep, this is this is
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: the asshole behind the curtain, This is the one pulling
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: the levers. These are the fuckers creating the fuck shit
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 2: stack right here. There's just something satisfying in that, you
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, it is well, yeah, I don't know. I
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: guess there's a little bit too like saying yeah, you know,
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: we see where this is going. It's just unfortunate that
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: not a lot of people are listening. And I think
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: that there's a lot of people who don't care like
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  Speaker 1: that are in actively doing this to us. They don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Well know, yeah, the does don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're their ship is fine, their ship is all settled, right, so.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I know you can get frustrating, but
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  Speaker 2: think about it this way. At least we're we're hitting someone, right,
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  Speaker 2: and this is not like a message to a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people can really handle. I know that sounds like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you need to have one hundred and sixty IQ to
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  Speaker 2: but it is like even people who are normal but
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  Speaker 2: not quite as reactive could probably handle it. It just
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  Speaker 2: takes a type of person that's more interested in the
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  Speaker 2: truth than they are in comfort. I think. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: I know that sounds flattering, but I mean, god, I
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  Speaker 2: spend what twelve hours a day looking at Development Bank
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  Speaker 2: financial statements and feminist masculine norms inventory. I have a high,
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  Speaker 2: high tolerance for pain. Okay, all right, So anyway, if
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