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Mayor Bass to Testify Before Congress | Update: Lindsay Clancy Trial · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handel on demand from KFI AM 640.
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  Speaker 1: KFI AM 640, Bill Handel here. It is a Friday morning,
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  Speaker 1: Foodie Friday, September 4th.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, at 8 o'clock, we always do Foodie
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  Speaker 2: Friday with Neil Sabedra, our Fork Reporter. He's heard two
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon, two to five, with the Fork Report, his
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  Speaker 2: Foodie show. What's going on today? Right now in the
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  Speaker 2: Lindsay Clancy trial, there is talk of a mistrial and
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  Speaker 2: there was an accusation by, I think, the four person
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  Speaker 2: of the jury saying that one of the holdouts, one,
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  Speaker 2: there was only one holdout, is not following the rules,
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  Speaker 2: the instructions of the judge. So that's up in the
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  Speaker 2: air and it's pretty close to a mistrial, which means
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  Speaker 2: everybody walks away and they start all over again. Now,
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  Speaker 2: What else is going on is the House Subcommittee has
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  Speaker 2: asked L.A. Mayor Karen Bass to testify in Washington about
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  Speaker 2: alleged waste fraud mismanagement at L.A.H.
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  Speaker 1: Lhasa, L-A-H-S-A.
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  Speaker 2: That's L.A. Homeless, the Homeless Services Authority, Lhasa. And this
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  Speaker 2: is following HUD, the HUD's efforts to suspend Lhasa from
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  Speaker 2: applying for and receiving federal grants. Now, that suspension has
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  Speaker 2: been blocked by a judge. But, man, it says a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Because the argument that the administration is making about Lhasa,
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  Speaker 2: it's not just the administration making those arguments. Lhasa has
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  Speaker 2: a horrible reputation. And it gets, what, maybe a billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars a year from the feds, if I'm right on
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  Speaker 2: that level. And the argument is, and this is what
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  Speaker 2: HUD is saying, housing and urban development that oversees homeless
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  Speaker 2: programs in various states and counties.
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  Speaker 1: Or at least funds those, is that.
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  Speaker 2: The whole thing is corrupt as well as mismanaged or
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  Speaker 2: mismanaged as well as corrupt. Corruption, I don't know about. Mismanagement,
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  Speaker 2: very little doubt. The 10-member board, half the members are
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  Speaker 2: appointed by the mayor. The other half appointed by the L.A.
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  Speaker 2: County Board of Supervisors. And in his letter, the subcommittee
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  Speaker 2: chair has said homelessness has gotten worse as mayor's tenure
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  Speaker 2: goes on.
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  Speaker 1: Particularly in Skid Row.
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  Speaker 2: She admits it because if you look at the hard numbers, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: homelessness has gotten to a pretty high point right now.
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  Speaker 2: And even though the mayor has spent enormous amounts of
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  Speaker 2: money dealing with this. And as I've said many times before,
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  Speaker 2: homelessness is the projects have to be far, very far wheeling.
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  Speaker 2: they have to be in front of the front of
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  Speaker 2: the burner and here is the problem it is so
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  Speaker 2: rampant it is such a big problem that to deal
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  Speaker 2: with it successfully is going to take virtually all the
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  Speaker 2: assets that a city or county has right now the
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  Speaker 2: numbers we have are 48,000 people that are homeless people
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  Speaker 2: that don't live any place or live in their cars
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  Speaker 2: that's a homeless that's a homeless issue August 26, for example,
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  Speaker 2: that's the date in which LASA has to submit an
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  Speaker 2: application for $ 240 million in federal funding.
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  Speaker 1: And according to HUD, they're not eligible.
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  Speaker 2: They can't even submit the application because of the allegation
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  Speaker 2: of fraud and mismanagement. So LASA files a lawsuit challenging
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  Speaker 2: HUD's action. And here's the argument, is that the attack
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  Speaker 2: on LASA is strictly political in nature. This is Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump and the administration going after LASA.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. It's political.
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  Speaker 2: And then the question is, well, how about the number
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  Speaker 2: of homeless people that have increased? Do you think anything
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  Speaker 2: is part of that? How about the allegations over the
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  Speaker 2: years that it is mismanaged? How about the allegations of
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  Speaker 2: fraud that have been so rampant?
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  Speaker 1: And here's the argument that I'm going to make.
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  Speaker 2: One or two people arguing fraud is one thing. Dozens
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  Speaker 2: of organizations and people in government saying there's fraud and
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  Speaker 2: mismanagement is very different.
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  Speaker 1: It's like someone alleged for sexual misconduct. Right.
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  Speaker 2: One woman comes forward and alleges misconduct against politician one.
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  Speaker 1: OK, I didn't do it. All right. There's an argument.
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  Speaker 2: What happens when 20 women come forward and make the
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  Speaker 2: same allegation?
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  Speaker 1: That seems to be the case here. It is a lot.
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  Speaker 2: And a huge number of allegations going on. And here's
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  Speaker 2: the issue too. And I think a lot of it
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  Speaker 2: has to do with the way LASA works. LASA does
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  Speaker 2: not control all the programs. LASA funds, gets funding on
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  Speaker 2: behalf of 140 different homeless service organizations. How do you
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  Speaker 2: keep track of 140 different organizations? What kind of bureaucracy
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  Speaker 2: allows you to do that?
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  Speaker 1: And so what does LA do? What does the county do?
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  Speaker 2: Set up its own homeless outreach where all the employees
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  Speaker 2: work for the county. Not for these nonprofits. They are
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  Speaker 2: now employees of the county, which of course is impossible.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely impossible. So it's a no-win situation. And for Bass,
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  Speaker 2: it's seriously a no-win situation because She is in a
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  Speaker 2: huge fight to get reelected. Normally, you would think it
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  Speaker 2: would be just she would skate into a second term.
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  Speaker 1: Not at all. Not at all.
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  Speaker 2: She is in a fight for, well, basically her political life.
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  Speaker 1: All right. We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of her either. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think she's done a very good job, but that's my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, it's my opinion. Or even better off, it's
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  Speaker 2: your opinion. I'll tell you what your opinion is. That's
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  Speaker 2: what this show is about.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on with the Lindsay Clancy trial? Of course,
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  Speaker 2: the entire country is riveted to this. She is accused
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  Speaker 2: of killing her three children. I think that's pretty well established,
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  Speaker 2: that she killed her three children. And then defense says
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  Speaker 2: she was in a psychotic state. such that she was insane, effectively,
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  Speaker 2: and should be not guilty by reason of insanity. That's
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  Speaker 2: one of the charges that she can be convicted on.
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  Speaker 2: The other ones are first-degree murder, second-degree murder, and manslaughter.
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  Speaker 2: First-degree murder, life in prison, second-degree murder, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: 25 years, and manslaughter, it could get 15 years, if
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. I don't really know what Massachusetts law is,
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  Speaker 2: no circumstances.
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  Speaker 1: So the jury is deadlocked.
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  Speaker 2: The jury's been deliberating 36 hours and cannot come to
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  Speaker 2: a decision. And it has to be unanimous. So now
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  Speaker 2: what happens? Well, the judge sent the jury back, which
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  Speaker 2: always happens. Jury foreman says, we are deadlocked, Your Honor.
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  Speaker 2: We can't make a decision. We just can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Go back in and go through it again. It's important
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  Speaker 2: that you make a decision. Okay, second time out. Comes
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  Speaker 2: back and says, we are deadlocked, Your Honor. We cannot
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  Speaker 2: make a decision. Now, Massachusetts law says that you can
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  Speaker 2: only go back twice. And after that, it is a mistrial, deadlock,
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  Speaker 2: which means that you start all over again if the
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  Speaker 2: prosecution wants to retry the case. However, under Massachusetts law,
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  Speaker 2: the trial, they can go back a third or more times,
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  Speaker 2: as many times, with their consent is one possibility. The
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  Speaker 2: other one, if the jury has asked for jury instructions,
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  Speaker 2: if they've asked the judge for instructions.
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  Speaker 1: That opens it up wide open again.
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  Speaker 2: And now deliberations, the third go, is what the judge
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  Speaker 2: is able to force them to do. And that's exactly
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  Speaker 2: what the judge did. However, based on the jury question,
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  Speaker 2: it had to do with reasonable doubt. The defense has
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  Speaker 2: come in and said, Your Honor, based on what that
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  Speaker 2: instruction is and what other jurors have said, this one holdout,
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  Speaker 2: one holdout, which makes it, of course, not unanimous, is
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  Speaker 2: not paying attention to the law.
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  Speaker 1: And here is.
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  Speaker 2: Where that line is so thin that it has to
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  Speaker 2: be navigated. And that is, if the juror is not
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  Speaker 2: paying attention to the law, for example, says, I don't
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  Speaker 2: care what the evidence says. I know he's not guilty.
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  Speaker 2: That's not paying attention to the law. If the juror says, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen what's being presented.
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with you. It's 11 to 1. I
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  Speaker 1: don't agree. It's that simple. And it's a holdout.
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  Speaker 2: That becomes a directed where that becomes a mistrial and
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  Speaker 2: it's legitimate.
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  Speaker 1: The juror is allowed to do that.
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  Speaker 2: There is nothing that stops the juror from disagreeing with
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the jury. So which one is it?
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  Speaker 2: Which one is it? Is it, I don't care. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not paying attention. Not guilty or guilty. Probably in this case,
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  Speaker 2: not guilty, I would guess.
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  Speaker 1: Or is the.
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  Speaker 2: juror simply following his or her conviction? It's a his
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  Speaker 2: because the foreperson said he is not following the law.
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  Speaker 2: So there is a hearing coming up. The jury is
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  Speaker 2: back in court. Tensions were flaring. The defense attorney was
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  Speaker 2: going crazy, asked the judge to declare a mistrial.
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  Speaker 1: The judge said no.
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  Speaker 2: And now there's going to be hearing to find out
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  Speaker 2: if that lone juror, and the judge is going to
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  Speaker 2: question every juror on the bench, and if that lone juror,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, did not follow the evidence, for example, and
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  Speaker 2: simply made a decision based on his beliefs alone. what
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  Speaker 2: he thinks, then it's over. Then the judge does declare
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  Speaker 2: him as trial. She doesn't walk free. She's back in prison,
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  Speaker 2: of course, in jail awaiting trial. I mean, she's not walking. Well,
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  Speaker 2: she can't walk anyway. She's in a wheelchair. She tried
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  Speaker 2: to kill herself. It's just a very weird case.
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  Speaker 1: It really is.
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  Speaker 2: And I was talking to Neil about this. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: in the jury room, but when you think about it,
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  Speaker 2: How does someone kill their three children, strangle a toddler,
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  Speaker 2: a six-year-old, a newborn, 18 months old? How does someone
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  Speaker 2: do that without being crazy? The prosecution said she knew
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  Speaker 2: exactly what she was doing. She wanted to kill the kids.
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  Speaker 2: The defense is saying, look at all the drugs she
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  Speaker 2: was taking. Look at the depression she was under. She
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  Speaker 2: had asked for help. and then brought in a bag
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  Speaker 2: full of jars or full of bottles of medication, which
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  Speaker 2: looked like there were 30 of them in there that
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  Speaker 2: she had been taking. And the defense says she was
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  Speaker 2: looking for help. She asked for help and then went
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  Speaker 2: into a psychotic episode. Enough so, so if the jury
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  Speaker 2: determines she is not guilty by reason of insanity, because
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  Speaker 2: she was simply insane at the time, then she goes
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  Speaker 2: to a medical facility, and is dealt with for psychiatric care.
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  Speaker 2: And at that time, a couple of things could happen.
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  Speaker 2: She's in for the rest of her life. She's in
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  Speaker 2: for a number of years, or she's in for a
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  Speaker 2: fairly short period of time. And the psychiatrists say it was,
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  Speaker 2: she was crazy at that time. She's not now. Now
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  Speaker 2: that almost never, ever happens. So she is looking at
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  Speaker 2: medical care. Which, if I am looking at either going
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  Speaker 2: to prison or being in a psychiatric institution, where do
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  Speaker 2: you think I'm going to go? Where do you think
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  Speaker 2: you're going to go? We'll see what happens with the
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  Speaker 2: jury today, what the judge says.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: There is a poll that just came out. And, man,
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  Speaker 2: I had no ideas of these numbers. So this is
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  Speaker 2: a survey conducted by the American University's Sine Institute of
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  Speaker 2: Policy and Politics. It was published on Tuesday, and 70%
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  Speaker 2: of the respondents, age 18 to 34, so we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about young people, said they weren't proud of where America
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  Speaker 2: is heading as a nation. The same number, 71%, said
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  Speaker 2: the same when asked about the state of the U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Today.
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  Speaker 2: They are not proud of the U.S. They are not
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  Speaker 2: proud of being Americans. Now, do I think America is
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  Speaker 2: going in the wrong direction? You bet I do.
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  Speaker 1: Do I think it's going to hell in a handbasket? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Do I blame Trump for most of it? I do.
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  Speaker 2: Now, there are other factors. We went through COVID, which
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  Speaker 2: was no fun. We're going through this war in Iran,
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  Speaker 2: and that's a Trump issue. It has just not been
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  Speaker 2: very much fun. But to say I'm not proud to
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  Speaker 2: be an American... Maybe because I'm an immigrant and immigrants
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  Speaker 2: are more engaged in being Americans than people that are
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  Speaker 2: born here. It's because this is an adopted country. My
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  Speaker 2: parents adopted the United States and they gave up their
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  Speaker 2: citizenship in Brazil. They were Brazilian citizens and wanted and
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  Speaker 2: became American. Today, you can have dual citizenship, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going for Polish citizenship, okay, because I want to
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  Speaker 2: be a member of the European Union, and I still
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  Speaker 2: keep my American citizenship. And I still have a Brazilian citizenship.
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  Speaker 2: So I have three passports. And so today it's very different.
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  Speaker 2: But back to the survey. Now, 59% versus 70% of
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  Speaker 2: these respondents, these young people, said they do feel proud
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  Speaker 2: of the U.S. and what it did in the past. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that part, I'm part of that. And young people are
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  Speaker 2: navigating what is a rapidly changing America. That is one
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  Speaker 2: of the big issues. And there's growing doubt about where
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  Speaker 2: we're going surrounding the Trump administration, handling of the war
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  Speaker 2: in Iran, handling of the economy, handling of social programs
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  Speaker 2: that are disappearing like crazy, medical views under RFK Jr.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of issues going on. And right now,
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  Speaker 2: the president's approval rating is sitting at 39%, disapproval, 57%.
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  Speaker 2: Those numbers are upside down for a president. So what
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  Speaker 2: does all of this mean? Well, it means that we, well,
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  Speaker 2: if you had talked, if you had done a survey
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  Speaker 2: in World War II, for example, you'd see 98% of Americans.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just throwing that figure out there, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: just an overwhelming majority of saying we are going in
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  Speaker 2: the right direction. We are fighting a moral war. We
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  Speaker 2: are behind FDR. You always go behind the president, stand
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  Speaker 2: behind the president whenever there's a war that just does something,
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  Speaker 2: which is why leaders like to put people into wars
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  Speaker 2: when they're losing approval ratings. They like to engage in
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  Speaker 2: wars because the country stands behind their leader. And so
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  Speaker 2: right now we are up in the air as to
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  Speaker 2: where we're going, where we've been. I will tell you,
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  Speaker 2: in my lifetime, I have never seen it this bad
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  Speaker 2: in terms of people saying, I don't like America. I
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  Speaker 2: don't like where it is, where it's going. One of
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  Speaker 2: them is my wife, who wants out. And there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people I know that are getting out.
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  Speaker 1: Now, back to my Polish citizenship.
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  Speaker 2: I've applied for Polish citizenship so I can have a
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  Speaker 2: EU passport. I can go anywhere in Europe and I'm
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  Speaker 2: a citizen of Europe, so I don't have to worry.
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  Speaker 2: It was supposed to come in a year ago. The
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  Speaker 2: backlog is so great on those applications that it'll be
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  Speaker 2: another six months or a year.
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  Speaker 1: There are so many people that have made that application.
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  Speaker 2: And if you look at the number of people that
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  Speaker 2: are leaving this country, does that give you some indication
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  Speaker 2: of where Americans think, where we are going? And it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't bode well. It really doesn't. And the shame of
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  Speaker 2: it is, is we are a great country. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to say we're the greatest country in the world.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an exceptionalist. I believe for me, it's the
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  Speaker 2: greatest country to live in. Now, as far as medical care,
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  Speaker 2: you can go to any other country. as far as
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  Speaker 2: dealing with gun control. Well, you don't need gun control
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  Speaker 2: in those other countries because you can't have guns. And
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  Speaker 2: so there are some issues of which I have a
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  Speaker 2: real problem with the United States. But bottom line, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm proud to be an American. Matter of fact, it
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  Speaker 2: was when my parents became an American citizen and I
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  Speaker 2: was there, it was, I think, at LA Convention Center
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  Speaker 2: at the time. And there were thousands of people in
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  Speaker 2: this big hall and a federal judge who can swear
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  Speaker 2: American citizens in, because it has to be sworn in,
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  Speaker 2: raise your hand. And I just get, I still get
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  Speaker 2: upset or I still feel it. And there were 3,000
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  Speaker 2: people crying, literally crying.
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  Speaker 1: As they became American citizens. Different world. Nah, they probably
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  Speaker 1: do that again.
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  Speaker 2: Because all in all, how great they feel America is
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  Speaker 2: for an immigrant still way up there. Okay, now, a
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  Speaker 2: story that grabbed my attention, and it has to do
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  Speaker 2: with travel and vacations. Going back in history, if you
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  Speaker 2: go to July of 1861, just as Civil War started,
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  Speaker 2: There were hundreds, if not thousands, of people coming out
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  Speaker 2: from Washington, D.C., overlooking the first battle of the Civil War,
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  Speaker 2: first major battle. And they had picnic baskets, and they
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  Speaker 2: looked at the South totally.
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  Speaker 1: Decimating the Northern forces. Oops, that's not a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what used to be a morbid spectacle now has
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  Speaker 2: emerged on something called dark tourism. travelers who actively seek
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  Speaker 2: out war zones, radiation sites, volatile borderlands for their vacation.
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  Speaker 1: And there are two different kinds of dark tourism. One
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  Speaker 1: I am in the middle of. This is me.
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  Speaker 2: One simply visiting nations that are just dangerous. North Korea, Afghanistan, Haiti.
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  Speaker 1: U.S. State Department says do not go there. Just don't
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  Speaker 1: go there.
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  Speaker 2: And as opposed to a couple of countries where it's
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  Speaker 2: illegal to go there. For example, North Korea, but people
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  Speaker 2: still do. Or historical sites where horrific things have happened.
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  Speaker 2: For example, Jonestown. Not dangerous, but man, you talk about
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  Speaker 2: dark tourism or going to Cambodia's killing fields or Auschwitz. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I have been to two out of those three places.
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  Speaker 2: For me, it's historical where horrible places, horrible things took place.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't joke about that because it reaches levels
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  Speaker 2: that are so deep. The killing fields of Cambodia, for example, Cambodia,
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  Speaker 2: where during Paul Potts tenure as the leader, Thousands, millions
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  Speaker 2: of people were killed in the killing fields where so
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  Speaker 2: many took place. It was, you go out there and
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  Speaker 2: it's bucolic, rolling little mounds of dirt, grass.
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  Speaker 1: There are trees.
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  Speaker 2: And underneath those, there are hundreds of thousands of people
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  Speaker 2: that were buried. Another one that is historical and very deep,
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  Speaker 2: you talk about dark tourism, is going to Auschwitz. If
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  Speaker 2: you're ever in Poland, I'm suggesting you go there to
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  Speaker 2: just feel how deeply dark human beings can be. Auschwitz,
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  Speaker 2: where over a billion and a half or two million
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  Speaker 2: people were put to their deaths, including my grandparents. And
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  Speaker 2: as I visited Auschwitz, I came out to the train
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  Speaker 2: tracks and was looking at the place where my grandparents lived.
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  Speaker 1: Got off of those.
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  Speaker 2: Cattle cars after a three-day journey, crammed into cattle cars,
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  Speaker 2: standing up. They couldn't move. And people were dying. So
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  Speaker 2: the person next to you was dead. No food, no water.
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  Speaker 2: And then they go off the cattle cars and were
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  Speaker 2: selected out. You over to the left, you go to
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  Speaker 2: the gas chambers. Of course, people didn't know they were going.
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  Speaker 2: You to the right, you get to work. And my
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  Speaker 2: grandparents were in their 50s, so off they went. And
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  Speaker 2: the thing that hit me the hardest, and I didn't
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  Speaker 2: realize the extent and the depthness of the dark parts
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  Speaker 2: of humanity at Auschwitz, is that people who got there
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  Speaker 2: and were sent to the gas chambers basically were there.
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  Speaker 1: For half an hour. That was it.
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  Speaker 2: You think of Auschwitz where people work and then they
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  Speaker 2: go to the gas chamber and you think, it's a
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: half hour journey getting off that train track and being
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: marched about 900 yards into quote, the showers. And man,
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  Speaker 2: if you go there, you talk about dark tourism and
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  Speaker 2: particularly for me, more than many people, more than most,
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  Speaker 2: it just hits you so hard.
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  Speaker 1: You are silent. That is one kind of dark tourism.
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  Speaker 1: That's me.
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  Speaker 2: The other one is just going to those places that
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: you're crazy to go to. For example, North Korea. And
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: there was one guy that was interviewed. It's a CNN story.
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  Speaker 2: And they did a bunch of interviews and said, the
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  Speaker 2: reason I like to go to North Korea is it's
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  Speaker 2: just safe. You betcha it's safe. No one is going
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  Speaker 2: to pickpocket you. No one is going to hold a
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  Speaker 2: gun to your head. No one is going to say,
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  Speaker 2: give me all your money. That is not going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably one of the safest places on earth to
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  Speaker 2: go to. It's North Korea. Also, I would not make
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: jokes about Kim Jong-un either. That's not a good thing
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  Speaker 2: to do. So where do you go on vacation? Also,
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  Speaker 2: when you go to those places, there are no other
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  Speaker 2: tourists or very, very few tourists. When I visited the
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  Speaker 2: killing fields, there was almost nobody there. When you visit Venice,
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  Speaker 2: which I did last summer, it was sardines. It was
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: going over these little bridges and you were on the left.
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  Speaker 2: The people going the other way were on the right
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  Speaker 2: and you were crammed together.
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  Speaker 1: That's tourism.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll talk plenty more about tourism because I have
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: a trip coming up. And just to let you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: by the way, I'm thinking, and I am going to
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  Speaker 2: start a podcast, a travel podcast, just to share my experiences,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: my crazy ass experiences that I have when I travel.
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  Speaker 2: All my disposable income goes to travel. That's where I
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: spend my money. And the experiences are kind of fun.
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  Speaker 2: For example, the first time I went to France, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: wanted to learn a French phrase. which I did to
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: deal with waiters. And the phrase that I learned in French,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: mind you, was your mother was a Nazi collaborator during
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: World War II, wasn't she?
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  Speaker 1: It didn't go over well. Those are just some of
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the stories I want to share.
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