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Colts-Titans Preview with Will & Dave Retherford (The Colts Report, 3.81) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to a special edition of the Culture Report with Will and Dave Rutherford.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their preview of the Coltone game against the Tennessee Titans on Sunday, and it's only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome Colts fans of the Central Indiana Sports Report for this week's Colts Report with Will and Dave Rutherford here talking a little about the loss in Pittsburgher than looking ahead to Sunday's game against the Tennessee Titans and after going to Europe coming home and then having to go to Pittsburgh for a game in one of the worst places to play in the NFL, awfully nice to see the Tennessee Titans next on the schedule.
0:52
[SPEAKER_00]: You got it, dad.
0:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely, I mean the titans are just not pretty good.
1:02
[SPEAKER_02]: They are 0 and 5 and they are a true 0 and 5, I think.
1:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So, now with that said, you know, there are some things that make me at least a bit concerned and that is that I think the titans defense is their stronger unit
1:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Our offensive unit is shaky at time, so we are going to need to do a better job of putting up 7 this week instead of just kicking elbows.
1:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And likewise, the Titans' offense is certainly their weakness, but our defense is also a weakness at times.
1:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess it really is going to come down to, you know, Ken.
1:53
[SPEAKER_02]: The cold offense can they be strong against a stronger Tennessee defense, at least on that side of the ball and can we get seven points instead of three.
2:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm looking forward to this game.
2:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it is a much needed game and the titans are truly not very good, but there is a little bit of a reason to at least have a level of concern.
2:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with what Dad said.
2:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that it's fair to say that the Titans strength to their roster is absolutely their defense.
2:32
[SPEAKER_00]: They play a base, four, three, and you know, really you look at their,
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[SPEAKER_00]: depth chart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've got some guys there.
2:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Jeffrey Simmons is an awfully good defensive tackle.
2:41
[SPEAKER_00]: They brought in John Franklin Myers from Denver who has a stud last year.
2:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not played up to, I think the contracts they gave him, but he's still an awfully good football player.
2:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They drafted Anthony Hill Jr. out of Texas in the second round.
2:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's a better unit than what it looks like on paper.
2:58
[SPEAKER_00]: A money hooker is going.
2:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I believed to play.
3:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It was limited in practice
3:06
[SPEAKER_00]: But the colds can exploit them.
3:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see an awesome nickel and Marcus Harris.
3:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that we're going to get to see Tyler Warren kind of get unlocked even more than he was.
3:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So last week in Pittsburgh, it did feel like there was a definite
3:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Hush from Shane Steichen to get the ball his way.
3:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Daniel Jones used utilize his check downs better last week than he had in previous weeks.
3:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Now came back to kind of buy them in the butt because they weren't able to push the ball down the field and that did stall some drives, especially once they got in the Steelers territory.
3:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Luckily, we were able to take three away, but as Dad said, if you settle for three against this Titan's team, they're going to cover the spread and it's going to be a lot closer in the fourth quarter than you'd like to see
3:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Termino and five team, but they're still paid professionals, I think they have pretty good special teams unit.
3:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Their offense is atrocious and they're really going to struggle moving the ball, but this cold defense has been lackluster the entire year.
4:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to put a ton on how Houston's offense looked a week three and I'm sure his hell not going to put a lot on a third string quarterback plan in London two weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if the Titans are looking at this game as a potential
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[SPEAKER_00]: get right game for them as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's enough players on that side of the ball that you definitely have to take this team seriously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of the record.
4:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the Colts are good enough to not take anybody seriously for one thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number two, the Titans are completely helpless.
4:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not one of those teams that you can...
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[SPEAKER_01]: take it easy, the week and not have to worry much about it.
4:42
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not that bad.
4:44
[SPEAKER_01]: My point is they have played five weeks and four really good teams and having to go to Europe and then having to come back and go to Pittsburgh.
4:54
[SPEAKER_01]: The Titans at home is the best possible situation for this week.
4:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, they lose this one and it's just, you might as well pack things up.
5:06
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree, you know, I think this is one where the culture a little bit of looking their chops, thinking that this maybe is going to be a game that they can really really get right and move forward for the rest of the year.
5:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just hoping they're not overlooked in this team because they're still a division rival.
5:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, while they're 0 and 5, their defense doesn't necessarily give up a ton of points.
5:34
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is they just don't score very many.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so if our defense can continue, you know, can hold them back, then I think this is a game that we should pretty easily win.
5:47
[SPEAKER_02]: But I got to say that my gut just tells me this is going to be a lot closer than it should be.
5:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, guys, let's look at some matchups and what the keys are to victory on Sunday.
6:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it has to start with the Colts Offensive Line dominating the line of scrimmage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was some struggles on the line last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no sugar coating that it was definitely not a perfect effort.
6:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But they were not bad again and I think the reason that the culture going to be pretty consistent is they can dominate upfront and they're going to have to and I think they're going to and I think this is a big day for Jonathan Taylor
6:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a game that, I mean, our offensive line is one of the largest strengths that we have, they did not open up holes like they have been this past weekend, I don't think that this Tennessee, you know, front for us as good as Pittsburgh's front for, but it's also not uncomfortable.
6:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, either so.
6:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And the titans aren't given up a lot of points either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think this is a game where they should be able to dominate at front.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if that's the case, then Taylor could have a really really good day.
7:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think he's going to have to.
7:09
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, I think 150 is possible this week.
7:15
[SPEAKER_00]: If all things go right.
7:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree that Taylor's voice for a big matchup.
7:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that the Steelers defensive line is a poor matchup for the Colts feet.
7:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Just look on paper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They really kind of stuff the Colts run by having five big defensive linemen out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not really historically been the Colts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: bread and butter they're more of a zone running team so they're trying to get to the second level especially with the interior three offensive linemen and the big bodies kind of absorb contact and it makes it difficult for them to get a push and move to that second level.
7:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious to see how Tennessee uses that Pittsburgh film to try to mitigate what Taylor can do but he's historically been really good against the Titans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that Tennessee has the
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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of struggle in the gap running scheme as well because they're not great one on one run blockers at more double teams climbing to second level that's their bread and butter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be an interesting chess match to see early of how the culture able to scheme run fits for Taylor and can mitigate, you know, the Titans.
8:24
[SPEAKER_00]: just coming in and loading the box with eight.
8:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to try to force anal Jones to beat them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were times in the Pittsburgh game where he missed on some really open throws.
8:35
[SPEAKER_00]: One being the stalk and go that he threw to Tyler Warren in the second quarter, Warren ended up dropping me took a huge hit on.
8:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's one of those balls that Daniel Jones has to complete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a touchdown.
8:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not just a touch, Shauna.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's able to lead to either Warren, and he walks in, he doesn't have to absorb a hit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The big frame tied in, you're not super worried about it.
8:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's little hits like that over the course of a season that can kind of result wearing down, and inability to play in a week 12 and 13.
9:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So that stuff that is going to, I think, begin to show up if Daniel judges is able to improve on areas he struggled in from weeks prior.
9:15
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9:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Will and Dave will be back this weekend with their reaction to the Colts game against the Titans.
9:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And Dave mentioned that the strength of the Titan's defense is probably up the middle on the defensive line, particularly Jeffrey Simmons.
9:55
[SPEAKER_01]: How convinced are we at this point that Jalen Travis is good enough to go up against some of the best defensive linemen in the NFL from what you've seen?
10:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I would say that he performed well against the Steelers.
10:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I only gave up one sack.
10:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you do a nice job of forcing TJ Watt to get further up the field.
10:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And that him stretching him vertical allows Daniel Jones to step up in the pocket to deliver a ball.
10:20
[SPEAKER_00]: That did look, that I think my concern with them would be his inability to win one on one in the run game.
10:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It does feel like that that right edge.
10:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of pressure and Taylor's having to force guys to miss at the line of skirmish, which he paid Johnson Taylor to do.
10:33
[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of,
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[SPEAKER_00]: his staying is he's very elusive at the point of attack he's great behind the line of scrimmage but that isn't sustainable for success beyond the regular season if that's where you're looking at if you're getting too much run pressure then it really does start off you're running back timing gets different the exchange can change and I do think that there is a lack of running threat from Daniel Jones it doesn't seem to be that they're running a ton of zone option and read option with Jones having the threat to run but even a finer
11:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Adjustment there can really force the D into half to play it on us and give Taylor a little bit more time up field.
11:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So all pump the breaks on judging Travis in terms of playing poorly, but I do think there is room for improvement in the run game as you would expect.
11:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's a second-year guy, he's not going to be perfectly polished yet, but I think in the past game, he is being helped on ships by Tyler Warren.
11:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Taylor is going to a good job of giving him assistance there.
11:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've done a nice job of scheming slot receivers for ship and releases.
11:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they're doing their best to mask wherever his weaknesses are.
11:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully that can continue and schematically they're able to evolve from that as we start getting into the, you know, colder,
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[SPEAKER_00]: weeks of the season.
11:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I think all the signs are positive on Jalen Travis along with Gonzalves and Wardelini.
11:57
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been fantastic conditions over the last couple of years to the line.
12:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, Travis did not participate in practice on Wednesday with an ankle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gonzalez, of course, has been out with his concussion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there are some concerns there, but I think it's, I think the offensive line has been so good, not perfect clearly, but so good that it gives you kind of hope every week going into every game that if you can control the offensive line, you can win a game.
12:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I, the Steelers gave the book on how to beat them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's play a five-man front and stack your biggest bodies inside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that it limits what, Gonzalves, Boralini, and Quit Nelson are able to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of what I talked about my intro in terms of them getting to that second level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if Tennessee's able to do that, we're going to see the same thing we saw this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: against Pittsburgh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to see them struggle to establish a level of run game that allows the linebackers to play up field and joins to take some shots in that second level in the intermediate zone.
12:58
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think this Titan's team is as good as Pittsburgh.
13:02
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not the matchup issue, but division of opponents are always going to play it tougher than a team that you don't see every year, although it does feel like we play the Steelers eight times
13:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, it leads me to believe that while the Colts can win, some of the issues that this line is having tells me that they may not be as elite as what I have talked to them into being, I still believe they're a topic in the league note question, but if that front three and interior three are able to climb, they're going to struggle to establish a run in any game they plan out.
13:43
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big part of why they're so good is because they block downfield.
13:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that that's easy to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could say that about any offense aligned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're not able to effectively get to the second level and blocking, your team's going to struggle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this cold scheme really, those having a five downline and defensive scheme with big bodies, even if they're less athletic, that is post bits for this cold team in the Stichen era.
14:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and guys, let's be honest, I mean, it's not like our past game has really helped support the run game, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of the deepens has been able to really pinpoint down on Taylor, and we haven't made him pay for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so until we do that, I mean, they're gonna pack in the box and they're gonna make it more difficult for us to run.
14:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're gonna have to figure out how to release some of that pressure.
14:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Say, you know, they need to run the damn ball, but they also have to keep the defense honest and I just I don't know that we always do a great job of that, you know, where we're too predictable sometimes in our play calling.
14:51
[SPEAKER_02]: But we we need both sides of of that that offense to to click in order for us to get to the next level and be able to consistently be offensively.
15:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the industry is still packed with wider sewers and dueling, still not participating.
15:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Josh downs now limited in practice list.
15:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not a good situation there, which gives you some concerns going in.
15:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But I will say that the receivers they've had have performed admirably for the situation.
15:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that.
15:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that Daniel Jones struggled.
15:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We're glad this is what you want to say with the receivers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He struggled making connections.
15:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I know some of that is communication.
15:44
[SPEAKER_00]: The receivers not necessarily running the route the way that he envisions it, but it's just little things like missing behind a guy like Tyler Warner, a guy like Josh Downsworth says, you've had plenty of reps with them.
15:55
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not on them.
15:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting to their spots.
16:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've started to see some conversation on social media about Anthony Richardson and what level of package or where you can get him involved in this scheme and it does beg the question of is it time to consider having some level of red zone package, some level of gold-a-go situation, but we're able to bring him in and truly make teams have to play
16:32
[SPEAKER_00]: confidence in his ability to take off and run.
16:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know every week we hear the commentators talk about Oh, you see the way Daniel Jones gets to the edge and you can tell that that the killies and Dres in an issue, but I don't see his mental confidence in his ability to take off and be it guys to the outside being there and They've really struggled in the red area this season.
16:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They've settled for a lot of field goals
16:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I'm feeling like, I'm not going on the whole.
17:00
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to quit start Daniel Jones.
17:02
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to completely write shit because we've been Anthony Richards and Homer's for four years.
17:07
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just, I'm curious as to why we're leaving a plus athlete on the sideline in the situation.
17:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We could probably utilize his legs in goal line, goal to go situations and take a little pressure off Daniel Jones in that area.
17:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious is what to you guys think because I kind of like the idea of it now, I'm starting to see where people on social media are beginning to question Jones is efficiency as a quarterback, you know, when you consider the fact that our wide receiver room is so be deaf right now as well.
17:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not getting the best out of the annual Jones necessarily because he doesn't have the weapons to throw to.
17:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So we need to capitalize a little bit on what Anthony Richardson brings the table that maybe Jones doesn't bring.
17:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you're struggling to really effectively pass and you only have Jonathan Taylor running the ball, you can do a little bit more read option things with Richardson that maybe you can't do with Jones.
18:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree, I think it's time to at least throw in some packages where we can see again, and see where that will take us and maybe keep the defense a little bit more honest.
18:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never understood why every team doesn't do that much less a team that has a guy like Anthony Richardson, but at this point I think we're just wasting our time with that artwork.
18:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't understand it.
18:36
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been really good runner and I know that you couldn't talk about the injury and issues like that, but what's he doing on the sideline.
18:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what's he really providing you, if you're not going to utilize them at all, it's you've clearly like Riley limited enough to keep him on the roster.
18:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So if Richardson goes down, then I guess you play Riley Leonard, but it's fair to, I think, question Daniel Jones.
19:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're, I get that they just extended them for one more year, but it's literally bad.
19:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you and right conscious could say that
19:10
[SPEAKER_00]: He's worthy of getting an extension after this year.
19:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He's done three touchdown passes.
19:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, we're going in a week six.
19:15
[SPEAKER_00]: He's done four picks.
19:16
[SPEAKER_00]: This quarter, this QBR is 41.
19:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, about 10 points below the average.
19:24
[SPEAKER_00]: He's had one game this year that he's had a QBR over 51 at this point or we really, I mean, Anthony Richardson could give you what Daniel Johnson's done.
19:37
[SPEAKER_00]: really he could he can absolutely Daniel Jones is done.
19:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I going to again give Daniel Jones a little break for the lack of weapons.
19:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's been horrible.
19:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you guys are overselling a little bit how bad he's been.
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: There have been times he's been pretty bad.
19:56
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of it is just three touchdowns that get in the red zone and the ball goes to Jonathan Taylor.
20:02
[SPEAKER_01]: That's part of that.
20:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: As you know, as I've been saying for three years, what are they doing with this guy?
20:09
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the purpose of Daniel Jones?
20:12
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the point to go nine and eight and hope you get in the playoffs because that's the best you're doing with it and let's you have a great team around him and they don't.
20:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that part of the issue with Daniel Jones is I don't think stipend trust him in the right area to be completely honest with you.
20:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Why you're You turn on the game on Sunday and you see these elite quarterbacks good quarterbacks.
20:33
[SPEAKER_00]: They're willing to throw in the red zone the cult's arc and
20:38
[SPEAKER_00]: their feed and tail iron, they're standing.
20:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, I believe he's the best peer running back in the league.
20:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You could argue top two or three behind Derrick Henry and whoever else you want to throw in that conversation.
20:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't like that we just don't seem to take shots in the red area at all.
20:54
[SPEAKER_00]: We're okay getting field goals because we're living and dying by Taylor being successful in the run game.
21:01
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not I don't like that.
21:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I and I Daniel Jones has I get you can say that, you know, we need to cut up some slack.
21:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He's getting paid $40 million.
21:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to cut them in.
21:12
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the issue.
21:14
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the issue.
21:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a single ounce of slack.
21:16
[SPEAKER_00]: There are throws every week that he's missing that are making these differences in games.
21:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the best quarter of action to league would struggle with this group of receivers as all I'm saying.
21:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And I agree with that.
21:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And two Daniel Jones credit, at least against the Steelers, I think I thought he took care of the ball a little better.
21:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I did feel like he stepped up in the pocket a little bit better and wasn't quite as antsy on his feet.
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, part of that just could be rust and things coming back from the injury and whatnot and not really having the noff season.
21:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, with that said, we're, you know, we're getting ready to be, and, you know, game six, we're getting ready to be the week six, some of those excuses of being rusty and some of the excuses of, you know, that he doesn't have weapons or whatever, you're as always so much slack we can give the guy.
22:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and as well said, you just get paid a lot of money to be our, our QB1, and I don't think we're getting QB1,
22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: statistics out of him right now.
22:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So just being objective, he seems like about a top 10 to 15 quarter back to me, but I just again, I'm wondering what's the purpose of what's the plan here?
22:34
[SPEAKER_01]: What is Chris Ballard trying to build?
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make any sense.
22:39
[SPEAKER_01]: The Daniel Jones is amazing.
22:41
[SPEAKER_01]: We've had that with this cross.
22:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He's done an awful job with this roster construction.
22:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Somehow, they're in a worse spot.
22:47
[SPEAKER_00]: They receive a position than they've been in 20 years.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Somehow, they have the worst line backing rim in the league with a position that he historically has been done a good job of drafting and developing.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have not seen our number two.
23:00
[SPEAKER_00]: The second round draft pick played all, you know, we draft Bryce betcher in the fourth round.
23:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not really ready to see the field, which is okay.
23:08
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a fourth round draft pick.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He's more developmental.
23:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But what's the point of C. J. Allen?
23:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, why couldn't we have made any move to go get a guy like Jacob Rodriguez?
23:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Just played awfully good as the green dot Miami and Anthony Hill Junior playing in Tennessee.
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: These are guys that were
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: in the position for Chris Baderd to go make him move to get him if he didn't feel like he loved the prospect of CJ Allen.
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Where is that accountability?
23:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I completely agree with you.
23:34
[SPEAKER_00]: There are two positions that he's completely butchered and it's receiver in linebacker.
23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He struggled to find a developmental running back to get Taylor, you know, office feed a little bit and not have to be a
23:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no sympathy for Chris Ballard.
23:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm beginning to have little sympathy for Shane Steiken because I think there are other coaches in the league that are doing more with less.
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm really, I'm so tired watching Daniel Joe's play.
24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I really am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I sat here much Carl Wins play in 2021 and he was way better with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty poor talent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Andrew look had receiving rooms that were as bad as Daniel Jones is and we're not getting anywhere near the production we did and I get it's difficult to talk about generational type players but it's leaving a lot to be desired and I think this poor quarterback play is going to be their Achilles heel on top of poor drafting poor roster management and just poor play elsewhere.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the question right now is Dave is Daniel Jones good enough to lead the Colts to a win on Sunday at home against the Titans your prediction.
24:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm going to predict a Colts win.
24:49
[SPEAKER_02]: They're at home, I guess that 0 and 5 team and I think it's really truly it's a must win for the Colts.
24:57
[SPEAKER_02]: If if they lose this game, they might as well pack it in.
25:02
[SPEAKER_02]: go ahead and fire the general manager in the coach now and that's figure out what we're going to do moving forward.
25:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think they'll get the job done.
25:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be a closer game than it should be.
25:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say the Colt win 27-21.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is Daniel Jones makes Will rather for eat his words game, and he's going to look like an MVP candidate again for one week.
25:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And the culture going to win this game, 38 to 13.
25:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Greg, that my parents mortgage that Daniel Jones doesn't do that.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think that he plays better than he's played because if he played much worse, he truly should get bent for Anthony Richardson, and I mean that that's how poor he's played.
25:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been far from impressed for a guy that's getting a shit ton of money to do it, getting paid top of the position across the league.
25:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So
26:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't, we're not tied to him after this year either.
26:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So it does, if he plays poorly, we move on, cut bait and just see what we can do.
26:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Just the easiest bed of the entire week, I'm not in just sports gambling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you are, would be the Tennessee Titans to cover the seven point spread.
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be a nail bite or down to probably three seconds left to go.
26:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And Spencer Schrader asked to hit at 75 yards or to win.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And he does that because that's the type of player he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: ingest.
26:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But seriously, I do think it probably comes down to a field goal.
26:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's ugly.
26:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say 23, 20, Colt's win.
26:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I think trader has to make his money once again, like he has all year.
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been the best kicker in the league.
26:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I think special teams matter.
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the Colt's matchup.
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: In the punning game, I like it in the field goal game, and I think that they've shown improvement in their kickoff coverage and return game.
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope we can get the job done.
26:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, I just feel so indifferent about this franchise.
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: They've made me not enjoy watching them and I hate it.
27:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that the, I hate the bolts have to do this.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's, I know it's, I know it's late guys, but real quick for a little bonus time.
27:11
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the plan?
27:12
[SPEAKER_01]: What, if you're asked Chris Ballard, what's the plan?
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to tell you it's to win a championship.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Where the hell's that plan?
27:21
[SPEAKER_01]: If this makes no sense, you can't pay Daniel Jones all at money and then a what?
27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: 25th best wide receiver of the league, all at money and when a championship, what the hell are they doing and why is he still the general manager?
27:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Greg, that's a great question.
27:39
[SPEAKER_02]: This guy's been at the helm for 10 years now, and this roster continues to regress.
27:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I feel like he was inherited a better roster and is just progressively gotten worse every single year.
27:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't figure the guy out, I mean, he spends two first round picks to get
28:05
[SPEAKER_02]: to get a corner back that, but then doesn't, I mean, we didn't bring in, linebacker help, we didn't bring in, pass rush help, we didn't bring in wide receiver depth help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, at what point do you just kind of like say that, that like this is just an apt, the guy is an apt at doing what he's been doing and he's been on that he's been at the home for 10 years.
28:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It's time to move on from this guy and see what somebody else come in, analyze our roster, figure out where we can build around and start over, because right now we're just going to be continuously in a team that this is going to be just good enough to win five, six, seven games, and you don't get a real good draft pick.
29:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but not good enough to do anything more than that.
29:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and what does he do with the draft picks?
29:06
[SPEAKER_01]: What he does have good ones.
29:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I would send him pack and now bring somebody in to be doing that the rest of this year analyzing what we have and try to build around it and and move on.
29:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I would cut bait with him tomorrow.
29:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot to is the, um, millstone around that neck, man.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but can buy him is too.
29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: He's played awful this year.
29:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if it's the system I don't know what's going on.
29:34
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been bad.
29:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you turn on the film and it's like, where the hell are you going?
29:37
[SPEAKER_00]: A team Davis Gaser.
29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: There are a couple reps he had, right?
29:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you going?
29:42
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you reading?
29:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see it because you're a middle line-backer, you see a run-fit, you see a hole, why are you playing out to the outside?
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand it.
29:51
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no guard pool, there's nothing.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: All the right guard does is take a right, a slide step to his right, and Davis Gator shakes his boots.
30:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I watched Tyreys Halleburton break his Erathomson, and Davis Gator got broken
30:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It befuddles me as to how Chris Ballard has won, been able to keep his job this long.
30:16
[SPEAKER_00]: To how he's able to somehow do the whole, you know, you snake oil salesman tactic on the city of Indianapolis.
30:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's just cool with it.
30:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate
30:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Dan Dockage.
30:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he acts like an asshole on social media and awful lot, but I think he's spawned on with what he said about the Indianapolis media and Chris Ballard.
30:34
[SPEAKER_00]: They just kiss his feet and say, my god Chris, what a talker you are.
30:37
[SPEAKER_00]: A guy needs to run for Senate somewhere, because he's a hell of a speaker, he can sell you on a bunch of bullshit, and that's what he's done to this cult organization that's what he's done.
30:46
[SPEAKER_00]: To Gemmer say it's what he's done to his daughters and I hope that they have the backbone to say enough is enough.
30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It is time to re-establish the centerpiece of this organization with a better general manager.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Shane Stichens is going to be guilty by association.
30:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I really do think he has the capability of being a good head coach.
31:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that the quotes are going to get rid of him.
31:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to go somewhere with more talent and that he's going to take a team to an AFC championship one day.
31:10
[SPEAKER_00]: He's down there.
31:10
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was going to say.
31:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And often to play collar.
31:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Great game planner.
31:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: The rest I'm not sure about he doesn't seem like a very good leader to me But he's a good game planner.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: All I know is that any's probably gonna get a no see job after this And I think he's probably built to be a great OCE.
31:27
[SPEAKER_00]: He's already wants to pause no see even if
31:29
[SPEAKER_00]: The, the baller reeler, that guy is going to make a shit ton of money this off season.
31:34
[SPEAKER_00]: When they sell whatever house they have in Zion's field, Westfield or Caramel, feel great for that guy.
31:40
[SPEAKER_00]: His wife and children are going to be well taken care of.
31:42
[SPEAKER_00]: They might get a pool put in their backyard this year.
31:45
[SPEAKER_00]: From the bonus he gets from selling the baller house because his ass needs to buy a U-hole and get back and go somewhere else.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with it.
31:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Get the step and get the step.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Be feet, my man.
31:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's worse than I don't remember the last guy's name, but it's worse than that.
32:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, everybody always says that weathermen get paid too much for being wrong.
32:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Ballard's gotten paid way too much for being wrong.
32:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I can promise you that.
32:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm admiring.
32:17
[SPEAKER_00]: He loves his guy.
32:18
[SPEAKER_00]: He loves this team, you know.
32:20
[SPEAKER_00]: He loves everything about he thinks that they've got a bunch of bunch of all stars on their roster.
32:25
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Three or four players that
32:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Pete, to other teams would be interested in if they were available.
32:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's funny how, I mean, that I don't know.
32:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what professional franchise, what professional franchise, keeps a general manager and that seat for 10 years and consistently loses.
32:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, is there one?
32:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, is there another one out there?
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: At least after those seasons, he's out of winning.
32:53
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not one that's kept the same guy.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: GMs and they've all sucked, but good teams don't do that.
33:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a good game plan, but it's been there 10 years.
33:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not a good game plan to keep change in general managers, but neither is keeping the same one that keeps losing.
33:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, he's about 500, didn't he since he took over that?
33:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, he's just good enough.
33:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess to convince them that he's just good enough.
33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand the plan at all.
33:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, 500 because he won games at the beginning because it was with a team that he didn't build.
33:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, once he got the hands and and I get that he's had, I mean, the Andrew Luxaga was was was hard and and I'm sure that set him backwards a little bit and I can't necessarily blame Howard for that.
33:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's just been, it's just not been good.
33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the roster as a whole has just not been good enough to win an AFCX South.
33:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not good enough to do anything and a playoff run.
34:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not good enough.
34:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not acceptable.
34:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not acceptable to the fan base and it shouldn't be.
34:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, you know, it's time for him to move on
34:13
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to get somebody in here.
34:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Squeak in the playoffs was good enough in 1987 or 1993.
34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not good enough anymore.
34:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just feel like we need to get somebody.
34:24
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to get our next guy in as soon as possible.
34:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Let them start making some analysis of what we've got and start then start thinking about what.
34:35
[SPEAKER_02]: 2 or 3 years from now might look because it's going to take that long for them to reconstruct this roster to a point where it can be a true winner.
34:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Dad, I get the whole sentiment with the Andrew Luck thing, but I'm closer to my first prostate exam than I am to Andrew Luck, retirees.
35:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's been eight years since you're tired.
35:02
[SPEAKER_00]: That it's not an excuse anymore.
35:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Find a way to build a team.
35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
35:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I don't understand.
35:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Denver Broncos should be an awesome case point of that.
35:14
[SPEAKER_00]: After paid manning, retired.
35:17
[SPEAKER_00]: They really struggled finding a quarterback trying to quarterback after quarterback for a year.
35:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And it didn't work in the quotes of just done the same exact thing.
35:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Almost in a timeline that follows parallel Denver, and they've been okay with that.
35:32
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got to make a change of the executive level.
35:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I hear that their assistant GM is going to be a guy that gets potential looks good luck, man, because I think Chris Ballard is a black tower that contaminates anything about him.
35:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's arrogance and his...
35:53
[SPEAKER_00]: willingness to give himself credit where it's not due is his downfall and you know GMs are it's a job where you kind of get one shot at it.
36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see him probably get another one You know he's a 72 81 and one is a general manager.
36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's below 500 he is a one one playoff game and he's not one of the big So it's worse than I thought
36:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, that's just, I mean, it's just unacceptable.
36:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's been doing it for 10 years.
36:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus you got unbelievable.
36:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Damn man, the brewer's about to sweep the Dodgers aren't thing.
36:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus we got Kevin Purchered in with the Pacers who is the absolute opposite of Ballard.
36:38
[SPEAKER_01]: and a much worse situation in the NBA when you're a small market than you are in the NFL.
36:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It's much harder to build a winner and he keeps having bad luck and bad situations happen to him and all he does is turn it into a positive and it's the exact opposite of the baller.
36:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't agree.
36:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't agree more.
36:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just it's sad that we're still in this
37:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean under the right circumstances could potentially sneak into a playoff spot, but it just is that good enough?
37:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not really, you know?
37:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks guys, that was fun.
37:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for the bonus time.
37:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.
37:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty much the worst.
37:31
[SPEAKER_00]: What's that?
37:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The bonus time went well.
37:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Please win one force, Tyrease.
37:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You're our only hope.
37:38
[SPEAKER_00]: The WMBA is never gonna let Caitlin win one.
37:42
[SPEAKER_00]: The quotes are never gonna win a Super Bowl again my lifetime and Tyrease, you're the only hope, man.
37:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, do it for us.
37:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought coming into this year, they may be the fourth of fifth best team.
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not so sure they're not the best.
37:57
[SPEAKER_01]: They look incredible.
38:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I went on and on from there about the Pacers because I can't help myself speaking of which joined me and my rich for the Pacers report coming up sometime really soon we're going to have hours and hours of Pacers reports with our previews and predictions all that stuff.
38:27
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38:35
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