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Patriots Unfiltered 11/22: Jets Takeaways, Vikings Thanksgiving Preview, Tuesday Practice Report · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: said Tuesday Egelette Stadium, short week here. Fred is is
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  Speaker 1: in fact out today. It's got things very busy, Paul,
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  Speaker 1: he's very important, so he's got things to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: But pat show, I think, I mean, we have a
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  Speaker 1: Bill at eleven and locker room at five thirty, so
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  Speaker 1: there'll be some much employee, some tone, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of tone. We have a little news. We do have
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  Speaker 1: some news. Let's start the show. Let's fire away. We
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  Speaker 1: don't We're not gonna wait for Evan to come in
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  Speaker 1: on the second hour. We're just going to tell you
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  Speaker 1: right now. David Andrews out at practice, was actually out
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  Speaker 1: there in uniform. Did not look to be moving great.
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  Speaker 1: But the fact that he was out there, based on
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  Speaker 1: what Ian Rapperport tweeted after the game that he had
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  Speaker 1: suffered a serious thigh injury that was thought to be
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  Speaker 1: possibly season ending, the fact that he's out there practicing
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  Speaker 1: or at least present for practice, um would would indicate
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  Speaker 1: that it's not a season eating injury. It's not a
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  Speaker 1: broken femur. As we were kind of speculating a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: What other thigh injury right would end your season. It's
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  Speaker 1: the bruise Drews broke his thigh. We would have heard
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  Speaker 1: it from the press box. That would be nasty. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's a serious contusion contusion. I think it's probably something
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  Speaker 1: like that, but it's not serious. I try to see
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  Speaker 1: he's out there, you know, evidently with a chance, I
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  Speaker 1: mean Scott Zolac, we should probably add that layer to it.
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  Speaker 1: Scott Zolac called it a bad report yesterday on his
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  Speaker 1: show UM on the Sports Hub and said that it's
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  Speaker 1: a it was a bad report and he has a
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  Speaker 1: chance to you know, he's going to see how it
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  Speaker 1: responds to treatment, and he'll have a chance to go
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night. So he wouldn't even Zoe wouldn't even rule
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  Speaker 1: David Andrews out for Thursday night, let alone for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the season. That's crazy, I mean. And Rappaport
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  Speaker 1: followed up by saying, after a battery of tests, there's
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  Speaker 1: it's thought to be a chance that it won't be
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  Speaker 1: the season ending, but still expected to miss significant time.
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  Speaker 1: So my guess is it's somewhere in between. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he'll play Thursday night. He I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: looked like he was moving very well in the clip
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  Speaker 1: that I saw, UM, But I don't think it's season
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  Speaker 1: ending either. I think he'll be back, you know. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's good news maybe for the Buffalo the prospect of
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  Speaker 1: trying to go the rest of the season with James
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  Speaker 1: Farrens and get this offense on track and you know,
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  Speaker 1: playing some kind of productive football here down the stretch.
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  Speaker 1: That just seemed like such a tall task to ask
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  Speaker 1: of them. You know, I know James Farrens, he's backup.
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  Speaker 1: He's been you know, reliable as a backup, but they
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  Speaker 1: struggle with with big interior guys. You've seen it over
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  Speaker 1: the last few games. So, UM, I don't think we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have Andrews back this week, but it's at least
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  Speaker 1: a positive sign. Isaiah Winn wasn't out there though. Um
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  Speaker 1: so it does continue some questions along the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: as far as the health. For what it's worth. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: The Boston Globe did come in with a report backing
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  Speaker 1: up Zoe, Jim McBride and Nicole Yang called David Andrews
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  Speaker 1: day to day, day to day. Well, we're all day
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  Speaker 1: to day, aren't we. We are? Well, let's interest Tamaris here,
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  Speaker 1: Alex's here, Paul is here, as I said, Douce here,
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  Speaker 1: Evan will come in a little bit. He's got a
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  Speaker 1: full day as well. So, um, yeah, we heard from
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  Speaker 1: Bill this morning. They're grinding away on Minnesota. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: into that, but let's let's start with the Jets and
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, kind of a couple days later here. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to throw it off the top. And
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  Speaker 1: I said it a little bit in the postgame show
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  Speaker 1: that I thought Mac Jones had an average game. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it looked like Mac Jones of old, nothing, you know, spectacular.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to make it out to be a
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  Speaker 1: huge deal, but I thought some of the plays he had,
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  Speaker 1: particular third down pass to Jacobe, just you know, looked
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  Speaker 1: in rhythm. He looked calm, He didn't make the mistakes,
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  Speaker 1: didn't put the ball in harm's way. I know we
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  Speaker 1: took a lot of sacks, and believe me, I'm ready
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  Speaker 1: to kill the offense still. But I just thought Mac
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  Speaker 1: played pretty good. Played pretty good. Yeah I don't. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about pretty good, but I would think
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  Speaker 1: I would agree with overall assessment of Mac. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they have so many problems offensively. They're having problems running
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  Speaker 1: the ball, They're having problems protecting the passer. I think
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  Speaker 1: they have problems with play design. I think they have
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  Speaker 1: problems with consistency and penalties. I think it runs the
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  Speaker 1: game at the negative plays are killing them. I think
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  Speaker 1: they hit double digits again in that category, and they
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  Speaker 1: can't move the ball and they can't score points. It's
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  Speaker 1: really unfortunate for Mac that he I don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: played a single game with a healthy OH line doesn't
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  Speaker 1: seem like it's certainly, I mean, at least in the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the year you have one. But then it
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  Speaker 1: felt like everybody wasn't really playing well. It was it
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  Speaker 1: was really Zappy that benefited from them kind of being
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  Speaker 1: healthy and those two games where they played pretty well,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know, yeah, it's how that works. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously short turnaround or I'm not allowed to say that.
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm getting We know how you feel about
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  Speaker 1: slapped out back. I did think that they strung together
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  Speaker 1: a few series that I really liked, but they just
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  Speaker 1: ended poorly, like they just they moved the ball down
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  Speaker 1: the field, got into the red zone, and it was
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  Speaker 1: just like I think it was like in the second quarter.
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  Speaker 1: They had a couple where and I mean we talked
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  Speaker 1: about on the show where it's just so frustrating because
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  Speaker 1: they start to put something together, they string together a
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  Speaker 1: double jed drive, they start to get close, they're getting
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  Speaker 1: some momentum, and then it's negative mistakes, negative players, penalties,
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  Speaker 1: the penalties. They started one red zone drive first play
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  Speaker 1: in the red zone first and ten from the fifteen penalties.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the same thing we've seen since Week one.
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  Speaker 1: Drive one in Miami, great drive just oh penalty. Oh
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  Speaker 1: now we're kicking consistency. The one thing that I you know,
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  Speaker 1: in terms of encouragement in this game, and it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be kind of surprising to hear, is I thought
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  Speaker 1: that they did some things differently in terms of their
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  Speaker 1: approach with play design, and at times I thought they worked.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I mentioned they didn't move the ball
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't score any points. Okay, So they had
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety seven yards of offense, which was
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  Speaker 1: a bad number. Okay, no matter how you try to
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  Speaker 1: spin it the way Bill try to spend it after
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  Speaker 1: the game, it's even worse when you consider they had
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  Speaker 1: about I think it was seventy eight yards on three plays.
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  Speaker 1: They had a thirty yard run in, a twenty two
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  Speaker 1: yard run by Damian Harrison, a twenty six yard catching
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  Speaker 1: run by Jonathan Smith. But the reason I bring those
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  Speaker 1: plays up is I think those plays were really encouraging
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  Speaker 1: because two of them came from a formation that I
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  Speaker 1: haven't really seen all year, with both tight ends in
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  Speaker 1: the backfield. With a running back, and they had some
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  Speaker 1: different plays off of those same formations, which stopped me.
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  Speaker 1: I know, this is a little surprising. That's coaching. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's game planning, that's play design, and I think
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  Speaker 1: there were some signs that there were some different things
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  Speaker 1: that were being done. There was a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: I thought, play action, a little bit more first down throws. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't always successful. A matter of fact, it mostly
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  Speaker 1: wasn't successful. First down of the very first down of
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  Speaker 1: the game resulted in a sack where it didn't look
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  Speaker 1: like the offense was on the same page. It looked
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  Speaker 1: like it was supposed to be a little swing pass
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  Speaker 1: to Damien Harris, and other people didn't get the memo.
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  Speaker 1: Cole Strange is out blocking in front of Damien Harris,
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  Speaker 1: which tells me it was some kind of a screen
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  Speaker 1: and looking backside to Hunter Henry. So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who's at fault. I don't know if there was a
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  Speaker 1: miscommunication or whatever, but I did find it encouraging that
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  Speaker 1: they were able to get some chunk plays and then,
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  Speaker 1: like Tamara said, they get down there and it's like
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  Speaker 1: you get around the twenty twenty five yard line and
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  Speaker 1: you immediately start going backwards with sacks, with penalties, and
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  Speaker 1: you you know, in a weather game like that, you're
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  Speaker 1: a field goal range with some of those. Yeah. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think Paul that some of those new formations that
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  Speaker 1: we saw were because of the defenses being able to
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  Speaker 1: immediately figure out what the Patriots were doing and how
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  Speaker 1: they were calling it out. I mean, it could be.
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  Speaker 1: It could be, you know, they're seeing an opponent that
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  Speaker 1: really shut them down, you know, the previous time, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe they said we can't just line up and do
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  Speaker 1: the same stuff that you know, c J. Mosley was
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  Speaker 1: figuring these things out. I thought it was interesting that
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  Speaker 1: Bill was asked about Shack Leonard won that question about
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  Speaker 1: the calling out of the plays, and he offered up
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  Speaker 1: that c J. Mosley was doing the same thing the
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  Speaker 1: previous week. So yeah, I think there's a chance that
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  Speaker 1: they maybe dialed up some wrinkles that were designed to
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  Speaker 1: sort of give give the Jets a look that they
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  Speaker 1: thought was familiar and then they went with something different. Again.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was some encouragement there, just not enough, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: easy to kind of help the tackles maybe a little
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  Speaker 1: bit from those spots too, with where they were putting
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  Speaker 1: the tight ends. I don't know if they did enough
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  Speaker 1: of that, but it's like, did you feel like that
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  Speaker 1: they moved the ball well in the Jets game at
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  Speaker 1: the Meadowlands. Not in hindsight, no, right now, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you know they ended up they ended up with
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  Speaker 1: nine more yards in this game. It was two eighty
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  Speaker 1: eight to two ninety seven, and for some reason, people
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  Speaker 1: acting like they moved the ball better well. To your point, though, two,
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  Speaker 1: it's like like some of those players were schemed up
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  Speaker 1: and they were open, and some of the play actions
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  Speaker 1: were open and that you know, those are scheme stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing has been easy for this offense this year. So
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  Speaker 1: to see them execute a play action pass where the
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  Speaker 1: defense bites on it and then you have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: an easy throw um, those things were just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of encouraging to see overall. And now of course
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  Speaker 1: we're seeing Zach Wilson is now sounds like he's in
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback competition down there, and he should be. He
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  Speaker 1: should be. And I think it's more I mean, not
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  Speaker 1: that we have to take this into a Jets confidential
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  Speaker 1: to use our buddy Dan leberfeldt Um. He didn't play well,
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  Speaker 1: and that's fine, but to me, it's more off the
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  Speaker 1: field stuff that he's not their guy. I agree. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like from after that first press conference where he
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  Speaker 1: was like, we'll see them again in two weeks, I
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  Speaker 1: was just like, like, it was just very and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's trying to be emotional, but like, don't do that
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  Speaker 1: at the podium, and then also to come in in
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  Speaker 1: the like coming into the game like no one knows
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  Speaker 1: what's going on and saide, this building is up for us. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he needs a coach, he needs a media coach. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think coach. I think Paul could just
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  Speaker 1: give him the talk that heat. Paul gave his son
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  Speaker 1: the other day about it. But I'm sorry, it wasn't you.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't you. It was Aaron. I'm sorry. I've mixed
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  Speaker 1: up Aaron and Paul and I feel like I'm in trouble,
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  Speaker 1: but you are. It's like I was talking to Nicolette
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, you really see the
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  Speaker 1: value in the Patriots players being media coached. When you
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: look at someone like that who's at the podium and
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: is asked, do you think you let your defense down
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  Speaker 1: only scoring three points? No? No, I said the same
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  Speaker 1: thing to Cole Strange when he was just like asking
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  Speaker 1: about some of like the small finicky things in here
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  Speaker 1: doing an interview, and I'm just like, honestly, you should
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  Speaker 1: be thankful. Yeah, like you're just a rookie. You should
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  Speaker 1: be thankful that there's this much like I sight on
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  Speaker 1: you and people just want to make sure you don't
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  Speaker 1: stumble over your own words. Yeah. Yeah. To me, it's
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  Speaker 1: not about what he said. It's about his mentality. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's not the leader in the locker room. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: there's no media coaching that can make him the leader
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  Speaker 1: that he isn't. And that's why I'm sort of I
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  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, remained intrigued by his physical ability,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think it'll ever, you know, and just
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  Speaker 1: watching his demeanor, watching the way like Garrett Wilson, you know,
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  Speaker 1: was you know, like has grown exasperated by it as
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  Speaker 1: a rookie. Yeah, that's a guy that's not he's not
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  Speaker 1: in charge. He's not in command. And even like, you know,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: go back to our pregame show Mike with with Dan,
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  Speaker 1: when we had Dan Leberfeld on and he was talking
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  Speaker 1: about Mike White being a better option and that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff comes from inside and in the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: and there's doubt that he's the guy. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: about ability, because he has ability. It's about his It's
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  Speaker 1: about his willingness to take command of the offense and
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  Speaker 1: to take responsibility, take you know, take ownership and leadership
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  Speaker 1: of the offense. You score three points, yeah, which I
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  Speaker 1: think to draw a parallel almost to Washington with Taylor
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  Speaker 1: Heineke and not not not exactly the same kind of situation,
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  Speaker 1: but Heineke's a kind of guy, not the most talented,
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  Speaker 1: has been around, was here for a bit, but like
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  Speaker 1: seems to have the team on page with him, you know, like,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that like to your point, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: really worth a lot when you feel like the team
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  Speaker 1: believes in this guy, and I think, I mean they
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  Speaker 1: don't believe it. Yeah, that's a perfect way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like it. So it sounds like he's gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a little competition. We'll see what happens to the Jets.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're still in the mix. And needs to
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  Speaker 1: be careful too, because I thought initially he was like
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  Speaker 1: that's out of the question, and the next day he changed.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's a good I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: good sign for the Jets that he was willing to like, Okay,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: you know, we can look at the film and look
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  Speaker 1: at the fallout from kind of over I think it's
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: more the fallout because the film like this is gonna
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: sound really stupid, you know, Like we said, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think mac Jones played terrible. I don't think Zach Wilson
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  Speaker 1: played terrible in the first half. It was when he
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  Speaker 1: the second half he was like he had never played before.
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  Speaker 1: And it's kind of started with that throw over the
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  Speaker 1: middle that he hit mccordy in the chest when he
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  Speaker 1: had Conklin wide open, he just threw it over his head.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was kind of the beginning of the end.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he was terrible terrible until then. Then
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  Speaker 1: he was terrible, I mean really bad. And then scoffing
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  Speaker 1: at the question about the offense not helping the Jets
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  Speaker 1: defense just really did not do him any justice. No,
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  Speaker 1: And I mean I wonder, I wonder what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen this week. I mean, it's it's got to be
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: tough for the Jets because this, I mean, yet again,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: there's been a comedic loss to the Patriots. Which, like
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I just I found myself over the years, even as
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: a Patriots fan, just shaking my head. How do you
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: bounce back from at and then you know, kind of
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  Speaker 1: change quarterbacks? Like I don't think it's crazy to think
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: they bring in Mike White and the team kind of
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  Speaker 1: rallies around him and the Jets make a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a push here. Yeah, and it complicates I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I've seen stranger things because I think that
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  Speaker 1: defense is pretty good and I think they have some
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  Speaker 1: decent weapons on offense. They just don't have anybody to
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: consistently get the ball to them. Well, we got a
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: couple of early calls here. I'm just going to jump
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: on the phones. That all right? Is that? Is that kosher? Here?
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: We got a couple of all timers here with Christian
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: and John both in LA. So the West coast is
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: checking in. Christian right in at the top, Hey Christian,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: how's it going? Guys are up early? Hey you guys
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: happy a Turkey week? Thank you. But I'm going to
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: get right into what I consider the bad means, because
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: but you guys want to put a positives been a
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: not after a week to prepare for a team that
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: you've beaten thirteen times in a row, and you just
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: beat the week prior. The fact that this offense only
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: mastered mustered the three points is absolutely there's no way
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: to get around it. We are not and cannot go
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: any further into the postseason until we make some major
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: major changes. But are they. I'm not sure. I'm not
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: the coach. I'm not. I'm not a you know, um
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: pro like you guys are. But I'm a fan, a
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: long time fan, and I'm watching this and I'm just
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: putting the pieces together and going there's no absolutely no
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: way we can go anywhere with this team. I'm exasperated. Guys,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: help me out. I wish I could. Thanks. Christian uh Well,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to look at the
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: defense and just wonder if they can continue to play
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: at the level that they're playing or something close to it,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and continue to get the pressure on the passer that
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: they have, And I think that's their Their keyest success
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: in the last seven games is is defense. I don't
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: think I did write about that. A matter of fact,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: it's probably on Patriots dot Com now the notes. God
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: knows you won't be able to find it otherwise. Yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I just uh. I mean, I think the bottom line
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: is they're a bad offense. They're they're bad, They're not good.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: They're one of the worst offenses in the league. And
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: you know, you can parse it out however you want
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: in terms of blame. But you know, I I thought
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Mac played okay. I mean, I thought they did kind
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: of what he asked of him. And I think what
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: was on display for me that game. We talked about
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit with Evan last week too, was just
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really feel like there's a plan. It just
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: it feels like they're just calling plays. You know, there's
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: not and there isn't an offense. It's just kind of
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: a random smattering of this and then that. And you know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I think it's just what's their identity right now? We
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: always kind of come back to that. I don't think
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: they have an identity other than defense. Yeah, I mean,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: defense is the team's identity and special teams obviously with
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones, but offensively, there's nothing. I mean, and even Romandra,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: what he gets is kind of like what he's able
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: to grind out on his own, umspite the protection and
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: to spite getting hit two yards behind the you know,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage and then being able to
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: jump out. It's just I they got a lot to
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: figure out. I mean, I think you can kind of
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: sweep it on the rug with a two game, three games,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: three day turnaround right now with the Vikes. But let's
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: let's hop over to John John and la Hey John,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey guys? First of all, I just
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: want to say how genuinely grateful I and I'm sure
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of other listeners are for the show.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: It's you guys are awesome. I love it. I believe
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that you're actually smart about these things in balance, and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: it's a credit to the Craft for wanting it to
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: be a show that's like honest criticism and praise and whatever.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: So just thank you for that. I'm grateful. I am.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Last time I call, I was reasily wound up about drafting,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and I still am. If it were up to me,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: we would have taken Devin Lloyd and I would have
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: taken Georgie Pickens in the second round, and I feel
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: like that would have been pretty good. However, whatever it is,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: what it is, and you know, who knows, Tekwon Thorton
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: might end up being awesome. He's having a rocky rookie season.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Lots of people do. I'm I'm annoyed by the Matt
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Patricia thing because Matt Patricia. I think the reason so
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: many of us aren't happy with it is that he
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: was bad when he was here. I know there was
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: there was a success. I get it, But if you
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: ask most Patriots fans who watched closely, most listeners did
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: this show. I'll bet if you're talking about a defensive
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: coordinator during the Belichick time, the ones that you don't
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: like are what's his name who went to the Ravens
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and then was part of sort of part of the
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: flake Gate Patricia. And maybe it's just because he left
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: after we get a thousand points in the super Bowl
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and then did a crumby job in Detroit and said
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that thing about the Malcolm Butler interception, sort of taking
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: some credit for it. So he already wasn't somebody who
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: we felt affection for, like a Florid or a Dable
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: even Uh. Now he comes in and he's put in
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: this position that's not a guest entirely his fault. Bill
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: wants him to coach, call the plays and coordinate the offense.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And coach the offensive line. I mean, what has happened
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: has been if you had the Taylor, if you had
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Taylor mate, the worst case scenario for Belichick in terms
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: not that he cares about the media, but in terms
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: of what everyone was saying. This is it, this is
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: what we said was gonna happen, and it's happening. It's
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: really frustrating. Um So that's all. I just wanted to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: say that, And I really appreciate so rant. Thanks John.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I liked it. Good rant. And that feeds into a
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: rant that you know, I've heard Paul do plenty of
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: times too back in that which is well, no, just
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: that the I mean, and I was right there when
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Flores came in and they all of a sudden were
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: so aggressive. I mean, my impression they were better playing
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: off at dawn Off at John's point, was just that
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: it seems like Patricia's just obsessed with playing the odds
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and Ben don't break and not being aggressive and send
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: in three guys and sending two guys and you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: just waiting for the other team to screw up, and
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: certainly it worked a lot. Super Bowl forty nine coming
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: as an example, right at the very end, but overall,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: there were certain times when it didn't work, and then
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're getting lit up by a
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: quarterback that you never expect to light you up. I mean,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that happened, you know, a number of times. So I
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: get John's point. I also just to say, though, I
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: don't feel like mat Patricia was put in a position
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to succeed this year, and the two things that he's
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: been charged with are the two things that are getting
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: overwhelmed right now, the overall offensive coordination and the offensive line.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I think most people are saying, you know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: as we talked about, get him some help at something.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, at some point do you just take the
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: offensive line and way do you bring an offensive line
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: coach in the off season. I don't want to get
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves into the off season already, but it's
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: there's a lot on his plate, and I get everything
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that John said, but I also, you know, I do
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: have a feeling of what did you think was going
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: to happen? Did you think that all of a sudden
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: he was just You're gonna unleash this creative And I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: think that's the biggest issue, like the biggest issue with
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the offense. Is is the coaching, you know, like in
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: all of that. But I agree with Mike. It's not
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia's fault that he was asked to do this.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: It's Bills and Bill said told us many times during
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the summer, this is on me. Blame me if it
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't go well. This is what everybody talked about all
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: spring and summer. And now it's been ten games of
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: nothing offensively right. Can't find the stride, can't find consistency,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and it's not getting and it's not getting better. I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: know there are elements that I like I said, I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: think there's like individual things like we talked about with
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: some of those different formations that led to some some
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: chunk plays. There are little things that are you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: they're improved, but it just covers up another shortcoming to me,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: like with the penalties and the negative plays, and now
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: they can't they can't run the ball. Suddenly they can't.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I mean Romadre Stevenson averaging less than two yards of
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: garry right in that game, you get Damien Harris like
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: bouncing to the outside, like you know, catching them two
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: big runs down. Yeah, and even with those two big
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: it's like no I'm not taking away the already in
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the twenty two count those they averaged less than four
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: yards to carry in the game. Yeah, with a thirty
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and twenty two yard run. I just this was the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: first time that they didn't have like great feel position,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I would say, and they were able to move the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: ball down the field. And then I just don't know
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: why I keep stalling out at the red zone. It's
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: like for the first time they are getting aunt moved
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it that far. Like yeah, well, and I thought that
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: was interesting today from from Bill's press conference that we
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: didn't take a lot. But Mike Reas you know, pointedly
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: asked him, you know, a good red zone offense, what
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: do you see? Um? Balance? Balance? That was it. You know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you can run the ball, you can throw the ball
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to the multiple people. I just I don't know. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. I know what Mike was getting
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: at because they had been terrible. The question was pointed,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: you know, and then it's so then the question is,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: so do you guys You guys don't really have balance,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that's fair. I don't think
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: they do either thing. Well, like it's not like they
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: can only do one thing when they get down there,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and that's why they started. They can't even got a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: one thing. They don't have a thing. Last year you
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: had Hunter Henry, you know, well last year I think
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: they had Damien Harris fifteen rushing touchdown. Yeah, yeah, you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: not good, not good. Well, but balance in the red
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: zone is what Bill says is the key to scoring
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. Five five pats five hundred is
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the number to give us a call. Here full of
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: lines are ope, and we got a bunch of emails
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: coming in. We'll get to those in a little bit, though.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm not ready. Don't you read ready?
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Should I read them already? We're not ready yet. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: haven't eaten yet. Did we want to flirt a little
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: bit with Minnesota? Are we flirting? If you're going to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: do that, well, I don't know if I have I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: don't know if I have my game anymore. So. I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that um Bill mentioned today that
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: they started looking at some Viking stuff during the by
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: just because they knew this week was going to be
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: a short week. Yeah, it seems like it's all on today,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Bill said, today's there, they're busy day of install but um,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you know before before we get into Minnesota, though, I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: got to point out right now, it is the last
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: time the Patriots played on Thanksgiving. You know when that
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: was tomorrow? What was I love ten years ago, ten
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: years ago, twenty and twelve in November, and uh it
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: was also the anniversary today A big play. Yeah. I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: asked Matt Morrell to uh to pull to pull some
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: sound for us, so you know, to remember the great
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: butt fumble play. So ten year anniversary, I'll never forget
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: where I was. Everyone does. Yeah, Matt, oh years ago
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: we talked to Tom Moore than at Indianapolis the offensive pool.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe you gotta busted play here. And then then Sanches
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: gets hit. The ball is loose and it's alive. I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: have never seen this before in my life. Watch this.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Vince will Fork is gonna throw Brandon Moore back into
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: his quarterback. He's gonna fumble a football. This is what
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Reggie White used to do to people. Fork lift him
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and just lift him off the ground. Mark Sanchez not
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: expecting it, and it was the backside of Brandon Moore
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to knock the ball out. Well, there it is were
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you we were at that one, Paul was That's so
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: when you were I was up in the No that
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: was we were doing pre impost game at the time,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and I was up in one of the conference rooms
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: watching Yeah, Andy, and I just sitting there saying, I
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: can't I can't believe I'm wasting my Thanksgiving night on
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: this game. It's like eight hundred to nothing, which and
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: like that wasn't even like alone is the terrible plays everything.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: They scored three touchdowns in fifty six seconds, So I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: believe it was the butt fumble followed by who's the gentleman,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: who's the Jag running back Joe McKnight. I want to
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: say fumbled, the kick returned on the writing and sewing
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: kickoff Edelman returned it for a touchdown, and then I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: believe they went three and out in the Patriots through
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: a little swing pass to Shane Vereen for like one
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: hundred and eleven yard touchdown. It's like an eighty something
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown. There's good three touchdowns in fifty six seconds.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Three comedy of arras, comedy of as. I would love
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: to see that now. I mean, they're gonna they could
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: use they could use a couple of plays like that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Let's go to William and film right now, checking in says, hey, William,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: what's going on? What's going on? Pretty good? Pretty good? Okay?
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: All right, Um so I'll say, what a game? Jeezus?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Another close another close one? Gee? Um at one at
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: how I said at one point, basically, I just want
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to say that this team is going to get exposed
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and need of me. Y'all them pictures and filter. You're
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: not gonna be laughing telling me that it's not gonna
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: be the how long you think you're gonna keep this up?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: The team is going to get exposed more than ever.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: All right, it's bad enough you can't really push the
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: ball down the field or anything. The defense gonna get
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: tired out. You know what I mean. If you remember
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: how the Jaguars was at one one time they had
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: exposive defense. The offense was all right when they had
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Blake Bortles and whatnot, but look what happened somewhere later?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: They got tired. The defense can't keep it up forever.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So at some point, you know what I mean. I'm
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: just I'm just going in, like you know my effectation.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I don't have enough for this team. I didn't have
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: enough when the season and start, you know, when they
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: was putting the roster together and knowing that, I was
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: just there's no way I'm going to It's enough for
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I see about this team. It's like, I'm just we're playing.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Every time we play a team and we we family
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: get to, we get to, we get through. Okay, we're
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: gonna get disposed at some point, ladies and gentlemen, so
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: we're gonna see. If it's funny, then ye have a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: good one. Yo. Thanks. Sounded ominous, kind of sound like
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a warning is warning y'all be careful. I just would
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: say the only only, my only account of that is
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I would take Jack Jacksonville season. I would take that
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: in a heartbeat, like that team was missed, referees call
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: away from going to the super Bowl. R Miles Jack
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: picks up that fumble and runs it back for a touchdown.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: That game's over. Yeah, I mean, you know, losing in
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the conference championship game right now, you know people wouldn't
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: sign up for our season like that. I would take that.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I want to get into the class. But I get
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: his point, and I feel, yes, I get his point.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: That's why during the Jets game, especially with those possessions
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: as we were coming down in the fourth quarter, it
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, boy, don't fail us now, guys, don't
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: fail us now, because it just felt like, and I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: mean I said it a couple of times, I felt like,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: here comes a shot to Garrett Wilson, you know, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that was what that game hung on. And so you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: when I think we're none of us are any illusion
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: of what happens if the defense comes out with a
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: slow start against the next you know, against Minnesota, against Buffalo,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you know, against these teams, a fourteen nothing hole. It's
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're staring up up the top of the
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: mountain right there. Um. But I get the point. Um,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I just I just wonder if Minnesota can
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: do it, you know. And that's what we're kind of
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: getting into today with the with the Vikings. And you know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I pulled a couple interesting stats I thought, and I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: just want to throw this, did you know, if not
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: not so much a stat as much as um, you know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: some of the comparisons. I mean, and obviously no last
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: week is last week, but you know, just as far
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: as like the comparisons between the two offenses, I mean,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: they were both completely dreadful last year. Um, but you know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: looking at the Vikings, seeing Justin Jefferson, a player that
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Fred tak about that, everybody that calls in here, anyone
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: if you want Jefsin Jefferson on the Patriots, I mean,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: of course, right Bill, Bill called what he's done so
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: far historic history. I think anybody here would probably take
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. I mean maybe not over Vermond er Stevenson,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: but but somewhere around there, right, Like, I mean, yeah,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I mean this there's an argument to be made. Adam Feeling.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Is anybody taking I mean, you're taking him to love
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: him as much, but he should probably take him over
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Baby just about anybody but Jacobe Myers, right like, yeah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, would you take Hawkinson over Hunter Henry and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: John H. Smith? Yeah? Probably? So what's the disconnect? Like,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: because I feel like, why don't they score? What we're
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: looking at right now is the perfect scenario for the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Patriots with mac Jones, Because everybody compares Kirk Cousins to
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Oh you know, he's Kirk Cousins. So all right,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: this is mac Jones. Is this what we're hoping for?
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Because it's not that great, you know, I mean, agreeing
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: people this all year. So what's the disconnect in Minnesota,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and is the problem the quarterback? And are we stupid
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: to think that if we just get a Justin Jefferson
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: with Mac Jones, that we're gonna be a top five
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: offense in the league. Yeah, you will be a top
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: five offense if the quarterback becomes a top five quarterback. Yep.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm not dismissing that from Mac Jones. If the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: pass protection improves and all that stuff and he gets
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a structure around him, maybe he has Maybe he has
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: that in him. But that's the way why he looked
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: at Alabama. He had everything that he needed. He had
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: a great line, great talent around him, like it was
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a really everything was perfect. Yeah, But I mean that
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: that just doesn't happen in the NFL, though, Like you're
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: just never going to go into an NFL game and
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: have way more talent than I mean, maybe playing like
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the Jags or something back in the day, but everybody
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: not in real games, Like you're not going to run
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: roughly because you're so much more talented than everybody you play, Right.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you probably look at Minnesota
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure there are plenty of callers that call
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: in here that would just you know, all day would
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: tell you how much more talented Minnesota is than the Patriots,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and they're probably right. I just the question though, the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: other question, not comparing to the Patriots is just thirteenth
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: in points, eighteenth in yards, nineteenth in Dvoa. You know, like,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: what what's the disconnect? You know? Is is it all
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: on Cousins? Is that? I think Cousins is average, But
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I also think the only special player is Justin Jefferson,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: And it's hard to just like, I don't think they
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: have a great offensive line. I don't think Adam Feelin's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the same guy. I don't think he's the same player.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe with Hawkinson, maybe he's better than Irf Smith,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: so maybe they can get to a better level. They
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: don't run the ball great. I mean, Delvid Cook is
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: a big play kind of running back who I really like.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: But I don't think they consistently run the ball great.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Their numbers aren't aren't great. I don't know. Maybe it
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: is all about the offensive line. Maybe that's it's simple,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: simple solution. But I think that if you had, you know,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: a better quarterback in place there in Minnesota, I think
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the offense would be better Dad, you mentioned the word explosive.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: That's something that stood out to me the last couple
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: of days. Bill, the guys talking yesterday, explosive, explosive, explosive.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: It seems like taking away the big plays, it's going
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to be a big priority this week. I mean, he
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: talked about justin Jefferson, some of the plays. He's as
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: covered as you can possibly cover somebody, and he's still
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: making plays. Um. But I think, especially when you talk
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: about that eighty one was eighty one yards, I think
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook ran against Buffalo that that got them back
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: into the game untouched. It looked like, I mean, shot
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: like a rocket up the sideline. But you know, that's
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I think the kind of things that I mean, clearly
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the Patriots aren't can't handle that. If they're giving up
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: big plays, big scores, getting in holes with you know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: no time involved, it's it's it's not not a good situation.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: My one fear in this game is just the fatigue factor.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And you know, a short week, you got to travel.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I think Thursday night games for the road team are tough,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and I think when you add in the fact that
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it's a team that they are overly familiar with, you
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: know that. That's my one fear. I think that this
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: was a regular week, I i'd really be bullish. I'm
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: picking the Patriots. I'll tell you now where we'll do
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: our picks tomorrow. I'm I'm picking the Patriots to win
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: this game, and I don't I would not consider it
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: an upset if the Patriots winning. I'm like, I was
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit obviously coming off the Vikings emotional win
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: over the Bills, I was a little bit surprised that
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: they lost the way they did against the Cowboys. I mean,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: not as not surprised that they lost, but forty to three,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, seven sacks. I mean, it's it's it's remarkable.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Like I said before, like what you know, I mean,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make the comparison, but just you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: based on what they did, I mean, both teams put
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: up three points. Patriots had two ninety seven, the Vikings
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: had one eighty three. Patriots are four for fifteen on
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: third down, the Vikings were one for eleven. Uh, none
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: of the team. The Patriots are over two in the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: red zone, Vikings world for on turnovers they had seven
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: set they just won on the first drive, but it
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: was the pressure, I think, and just the losing their
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: left hand defense is not very good. Michael Parsons is no,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: the Vikings defense, it's not very good. I mean statistically
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: there you know, you know Bill was raving about the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: secondary they had thirty first in the league. See, these
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: are the things that like vone Fredzierry gets mad at
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: me for pointing out, you know, when he talks about
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: when you play like Green Bay and you held him
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: to quote held him to twenty seven, but he ignores
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the fact that they average eighteen. Do you know what
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I mean? Yea, Like those are the kinds of things
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: this is. This is a defense to This is a
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: get right week for the Patriots offense. And I know
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: that saying a lot. I know it's a dangerous, dangerous
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: assumption I'm making and maybe people will be, you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: making fun of me Thursday night on the postgame show
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: when they go out and score ten more points. But no,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: but I think, but at least the glimpse of Mac
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Jones kind of looking like twenty twenty one Mac Jones
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: in this game, you know, like I'm a little bit
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: more willing to say that that maybe they will be
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: able to execute those kind of you know, schemes and
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: short passing game and all those things that he's good.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I just like hearing Paul say how their secondary isn't
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: that great or their defense isn't that great. It's like
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see, like how they were able to
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: like fool, I guess Josh Allen didn't he have two
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: interceptions in that game? Or they were they with thirty
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: whatever points? Like true? You know, like they can't stop
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: they can't stop anybody. I mean, you can get ten rivers,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: will you know, always be the equalizer. But they didn't
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: slow down Buffalo's offense at all in that game. It
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: feels like we're their trap game. It wasn't for forty
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: if they hadn't just lost forty to three. Yeah, see,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I think that works for the Patriots advantage. I think
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: they would shook. I mean, you lose forty to three
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: at home, it's absolutely time to put it behind you,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: either with a quick turnaround. And people have been calling
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: them kind of frauds all year or so now they're
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: like they were right about us year. I mean, I'll
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: just end to my left, we'll go. This is this
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: is my favorite stat for the Vikings, and I know,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, Oh, he's just trolling. He's trolling. I don't
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: do that. I'm not. I just I deal in what
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I think. Pause the receipts. I love it. But this
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: is the only team in the history of the NFL
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that's kind of a long time, that has ever had
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: an eight and two record or better and been outscored.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: It's the only time ever because that's happen. They've They've
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: won eighty percent of their games and have been outscored.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Like it's kind of weird because I think if if
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: a team like the Patriots were doing that and didn't
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: have the elite talent, you'd be kind of like, this
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: is all smoke and mirrors. This is when we're doing
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: around here to our own team, right like people are
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: doing it to the Patriots, and rightly so. Like three
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks, they've beaten so of the Vikings, they've beaten
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of backup quarterbacks. They're beating a lot of
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: teams that are and that They've had a lot of
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: close games against bad teams that could have gone either way,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: like the Commanders one. Actually, I honestly thought that Taylor
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Honeke was going to pull that one out. Yeah, I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: mean it's easier, it's easier to kind of not believe
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that narrative because you've got talent, like you know, you've
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: got Justin Jefferson like he's doing the greedy like you
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: feel great. But at the same time, but that's probably
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the most every probably the best win. And now what
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: is green Bay? There were three and seventeen, you know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: like everybody looked at them. Wow, they blew doors off
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of Green Bay in week one? Yeah, they did, so
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: does everybody else except the Patriots. We were calling it
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: a quote unquote moral victory to lose to them, and
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that that just hasn't totally know it's but I mean,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I think that we're willing to pick apart the Patriots
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: and for all their flaws because this is our team.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: But everybody's like, oh, Vikings eating too, They're great, they
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: have a lot of flaws. Let's go back to the
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: phones and uh here from Eldred down to North Carolina.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Hell there, what's going on? Hey, tell us, how y'all do? Good?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Good lady, let me give you some insights into the Viking. Okay, yeah,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: the reason why the Cowboys dumped them like that they
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: know Kirk cuz they played against when we were Washington,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and like like one of my like my families say,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the only thing you gotta do is pressure him, get
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to him, he'll freak out. But against the Bills, it
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: was it was a personal thing because they got tired
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of people saying you want to beat back up quarterbacks,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: so they had to beat the Bill and the Bills.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I mean it was color what it was. They were
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: down seventeen in the fourth quarter and Josh Allen fumbled
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: a snap in the end zone, like that was a fluid.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: But if it was personal, yeah, they said it was personal.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: But anyway, do you think we can score like like
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys did? Like our offense get like the Cowboy No,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think they can score forty points without turnover snow, Okay, okay,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: no turnover. They show that they can score seventeen yet great,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I mean, just the offense,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: not not big leg Nick, not with the defense. I'm sorry, no,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: doctor late, that's Nick Foles. You know what I mean?
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: You have dating both. So what I'm so, what I'm
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: saying is, you know I don't like this game on Thanksgiving?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I know that eight thirty and you know how how
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: we do back with Brady. We we play a team,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: we pulled the beat, but we lost. Then the next
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: team next game was to get right game. That's what
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling about. Just get right with Minnesota. You might
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: be right I feel about it. I'm not telling you
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that there's no possible way the Patriots can lose this game.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about the short week road trip and all that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about this game. I think the Patriots are
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: just as good as Minnesota, even though there are two
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: games difference in the standings. I think it's just the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: thanks Elder, appreciate it. I hope you didn't have another
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: question there on the drap. Okay, so this makes me
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: want to ask. I don't even know who asked this
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: question last week, but Paul, would you take Kirk Cousins
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: or Mac Jones? I would take mac Jones. But there's
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: no pause there, no because because I know what Kirk
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Cousins is. And I think there's a chance now you
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you you're gonna ask me how confident I am not
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: very but I think there's a chance that we don't
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: know what mac Jones is yet and he could get
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to a level that's better than Kirk Cousins. Yeah, so
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I would take Kirk. I would take Mac Jones because
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I think there's an unknown quality there Kirk. Also, he's
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: just like the ultimate, like he probably won't win you
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: a game, he probably won't lose a game. He's just
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: the barometer. He's the face of it. And we want
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Mac to be better than that, right, Yeah, Ultimately, you
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: want your quarterback to be better than just okay, And
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you know, I think that's all king enough people are
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: talking about the Kirk Cousins primetime effet. I was just
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: going to bring that up, and you know, a couple
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: points though, ten and eighteen career record in primetime game
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: six and nine one Minnesota four and nine. Watching it. However,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard any mention of this in with Washington
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen against Dallas, he did throw for four
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine yards in an l Maybe it's
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: just like Peyton Manning, like you know, uh sorry, he
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: did lose that game thirty one, twenty six He did
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: beat the Giants in twenty seventeen on the night game.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It wasn't quite the epic passing performance, but yes, he
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: did fall short. And interesting, Yeah, so he has had
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: he's had some struggles and I'll even you know, and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I don't have the numbers for it. I'm assuming what
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: was the what was the record at ten and eighteen.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just assuming that those twenty eight games are all
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: actual night games. I actually count a game like Sunday
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: when it's a four to twenty five start on you know,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: one of those you know, an NFL Game of the
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: week whatever they call it, the Fox, you know, football
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: game of a Week or whatever, and they lose forty
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: to three. Like I know, it wasn't a primetime game
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: per se, but that was a national game with everybody
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: everybody was watching. You're eating one Vikings go against what
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: everybody thinks is a pretty good team in Dallas, and
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: you didn't even compete, especially because that was a home game. Yeah,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I was just a little bit I don't know, like
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I was. I was all in on Dallas in that game,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: but like you said earlier in the show Tomorrow, I
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: didn't expect you know, thirty four seventeen, you know, like
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: you know, like the other team is better than you.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I thought Dallas was better, but not like that. Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones. Mark from Bolton, Hey, Mark,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey, guys had a couple of things. Um,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I'm a Mac defender, but not an apologist. Um, I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: think he's there is a fine line there, sure, sure, yeah,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: makes sense. Well, I mean I think that the show
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: shocking started in training camp. Um I was there six times.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: You know, there was just he just was getting broken
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: in on. But I think he came out of that
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit against the Jets in that his feet
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: were more solid. Yea, and okay, took some sacks, but
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I mean those were pretty quick sacks. Yep. Um my
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: point on the offense, though, My second point is in
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the red zone. If you want to score in the
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: red zone, you've got to get the ball to the
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: end zone. And they never get the ball to the
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: end zone. And some of it is because okay, there's
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the holding penalty. They never get to the red zone.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Some of it is you know, he's Mac getting sacked.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: But you got to get the ball in the end
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: zone if you want to score. It's like playing the lottery,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I would agree. I would agree they
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: don't get to the red zone enough to give themselves
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: chances to score. They got to the red zone twice Sunday. Yeah,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the other team, which had the single worst offensive performance
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I think i've ever seen, got to the red zone once.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: But even when they get there, I mean, even when
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: they get there, you've got to get the You gotta
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you guys throw the ball into the end zone, or
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you've got to have a play that uh you know,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Okay Blans or something. Yeah, I know there's a there's
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of Again, I think that the number one
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: problem is coaching. I do um so I'm with Mark
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: in general, but there's been a lot of the play
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: calling in the red zone short circuits them, and it's
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: not entirely the fault of the coaches. Like I mentioned,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the first time they got down there on Sunday, it's
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: first and ten from the fifteen yard line. First snap
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: they got called. They could call for a Peltic, but
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't holding. No one missed a block. It
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: was illegal formation. Like I'm sorry, that's not Matt Patricia's fault.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: That's not Bill Belichick's fault. Like, so all of a sudden,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: now it's first and fifteen. They threw the ball three times.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: You know it was incomplete, and then they ended up
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: short of getting the fifteen They ended up with fourteen yards,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: and that was the drive that they lined up up
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: to go for it. Change their minds or whatever called
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: time out and wound up kicking the field goal, which
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: thank god, because otherwise you may have lost the game
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: three nothing if you didn't kick that field goal on
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the fourth and fourth and inches in the start of
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: the second quarter. But there's too many negative plays when
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: they get down in the red zone and it's hard
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: to throw the ball into the end zone when you're
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: going backwards. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I mean they had a
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: third and two, and you know, I feel like the
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: ninth Yeah, that was the other time they were in
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the red zone and Marcus right on it. Third and two,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Yadney Kuld just gets beaten immediately and Mac is forced
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to scramble. May or may not had the first I
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: think officially on the game book it says he got
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: three yards. I thought he was short live when we
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: were there, but a call for holding, so now it's
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: third and twelve, and then they get sacked again in
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: our out of field goal range. Like the offensive line,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the play calling, the structure of the offense. I'm sorry,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: but the play off Mac Jones is also part of it. Um.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: They have They have a litany at problems. They have
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of things going wrong. Thanks, Mark, appreciate the call. Uh.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy because in the pregame show, I was like, Wow,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: this is going to be the first game that mac
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Jones is going to have like his offensive lineback, everyone
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: everyone healthy. And later Yeah, I know, I was watching
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: a little of that game last night and just kind
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: of watching Trent Williams a little bit of you know what,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: like a really badass was still tipped? Was he still
• 46:28
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• 46:31
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• 46:34
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• 46:35
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• 46:38
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• 46:40
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• 46:42
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• 46:45
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• 46:48
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• 46:50
  Speaker 1: round billing that you selected him. And it feels like you,
• 46:54
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• 46:58
  Speaker 1: the first round, and then he plays ten years, drafting
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Nate Solder and he plays, you know whatever, he played
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: seven eight years for you. They just have gotten away,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: like they've gotten away from the preparation. Like it was
• 47:09
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• 47:12
  Speaker 1: coming to the end. And a year before that, when
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: you have Matt Lytton Sebastian Volmer establishes your tackles, we're
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: gonna take Nate's Solder because whether it's this year, next year,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: or the year after that, we're gonna need Nate's Solder
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: to step in for one of these guys. It's an
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: important position, right, and Solder ended up playing quite a
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: bit as a rookie as an extra tackle tight end.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Then I think he replaced Volmer. I got hurt and
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: you were ready to go, and then Light retired and
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: bang you had Solder. Now it's like we went in
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: like thinking that Trent Brown and Isaiah Wynn were going
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: to be seventeen games stalwarts when they've never done that,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and then we flipped sides and we put now and
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: now evidently reportedly Trent Brown didn't start the game for
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: coaching decisions like somehopley of the bye yeah right, so
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: which again and they don't have an option. We think
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: something happened after the during the preseason two when he
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: was mysteriously not dressed for the same night that Kendrick
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Bonne got all the attention. Trent Brown wasn't dressed that
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: night against Carolina. So it's just it's it's frustrating because
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: and I think, you know, and I will say, like
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: flip side of the coin, wrong about cornerback, Like I
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: felt like they really need a cornerback. They figured it out,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: they were able to move Jonathan Jones. That's been you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: that hasn't been a major problem yet, right. But I
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: would also say with that, I yes, I was wrong
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: about that. They ended up we should be you know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: fair because Jack Jones and Jonathan Jones have been able
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to fill that void. I think it's more about the
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: front seven and the immense pressure you're putting on quarterbacks.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: It speaks to your point to Paul, where you're like
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: the consistency and the preparation. It's like at corner we've
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: clearly for many years now been prepared for someone else
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: to move up be the next guy up. The training
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and development is there, and it's just but where's But
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: even like even when it wasn't because I mean, you know,
• 49:03
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• 49:06
  Speaker 1: years ago, but like even when it wasn't as meticulously
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: planned out as Paul said, Like, they just are good
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: at developing guys. That is one spot that they've had
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: good young Jonathan, you know, like Jack, So they just
• 49:17
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• 49:19
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• 49:22
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• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Like I think they've been good enough to coach up
• 49:25
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• 49:27
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• 49:30
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• 49:34
  Speaker 1: than they have the early picks. The early picks have
• 49:36
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• 49:39
  Speaker 1: get these emails here from from the NFL that just
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  Speaker 1: kind of point out killing everywhere. And I don't know
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: that I like paper though sometimes definitely I'm I'm making
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I'm making fun of Mike. But I have all my
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  Speaker 1: stuff in front of me, type the game book and
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• 50:01
  Speaker 1: has his little like printed like planner well done, well done,
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  Speaker 1: right there. I just bought a new one two Tamarri.
• 50:06
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• 50:08
  Speaker 1: my fifth different book of two year little paper calendar
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  Speaker 1: that I'm always like kind of nerding out and looking.
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  Speaker 1: He lost it for a few days and I think
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  Speaker 1: he remember, remember I was just walking aimlessly through the halls,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't know where I'm supposed to be. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have my paper calendar. That's how I feel about
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: my iPad too. See, I'm more of like a Google
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Apple calendar gal, like I can see it on my phone,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: and I like that stuff too. I just there's just
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: like something about having a calendar that I can just
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  Speaker 1: like whip out and look at at anytime I want
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  Speaker 1: to start writing. It's the physical writing down for the
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: pencils arresting. Let's put that calendar away. But back to
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: my point end, And they included this with the with
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the email that we got just the next gen stats
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: that you know again, and I made the point I
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: think last week or the week before, Patriots have played
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: cover one on forty one percent of their cover snaps,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the only team to a click forty percent. So, I mean,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: just again, so much conversation this year, they're gonna go
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: to more zone. They gotta play more zone. They can't
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: play me in like they don't care, like they just
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: kind of continue to do what they do some you know,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: just some interesting, some interesting things. Justin Jefferson leads to
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: the NFL with plus one hundred and fifty five receiving
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: yards overexpected against cover one this season. He's tough. He's
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: tough to cover one on one. Yeah, And I would
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: be surprised if they tried to do that. And I
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: also am going to be very interested in the rest
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: of the way because the backups are done well as
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: of now. That will change because guys will get hurt.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: But the backups are done and the just the really
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: like low octane offenses, yeah, are done. I mean, I
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: think even the bad teams that they play from here
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: on in have the ability to move the ball and
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: score some points, like the Raiders in the in the Cardinals,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: like they're bad teams, but you could certainly understand, like
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: if you went to if they go to Arizona and
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's back healthy and he's throwing the ball to
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, you know in Ron del Moore, who, by
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the way, got hurt less. I mean, just heaven decide. Sorry,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I never do this, as you know, I never do this.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: How do you Last night when he went out, I
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: lost by point two? Do you know why I lost
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: by point two? Because Ron del Moore got point minus six?
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, negative points point six. He had one carry
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: for minus six yards and then left the game. If
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: he just didn't play, I would have won. If he
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: caught a pass for for a loss of six yards,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I would have won anyway. Yeah, so I'm not I'm
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: not bitter at all. But if you saw, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: accept that one though, because I think that that's enough
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: of a weird, tough loss and you're not like and
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: then I needed seven points from this guy, but I
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  Speaker 1: benched him to put this guy you know I need.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I needed seventeen point nine points between DeAndre Hopkins in
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: in Ron del Moore. I got eighteen point one from Hikins.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Have lost Anyway, Um, if if if the Cardinals like
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: move the ball and they have success throwing the ball
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: to Hopkins and Moore in aj Green and even that
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Greg Dortsch guy was was pretty good last night? Um
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. And you know James Connor is making plays.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think people will say, Wow, that's embarrassing you
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: allowed that to That's that's a team that has the
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: ability to move the ball and score. Sam Ellinger with
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: without Jonathan Taylor did not have the ability to move
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the ball. That's great. So there is gonna be there's
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be a change, and we'll see how the Patriots
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: adjust to the cover one. To illustrate all your numbers.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Can they pay some zone against the team, Can they
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: play differently or can they you know when when they're
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: actually tested, because I think in the handful of games
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: that they've been tested, they haven't looked great defensively. Grab
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: a call back to the phones. Todd from North Carolina,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Hey Todd, what's going on? Hey guys, was there a
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: chance John would have gotten in if when he fumbled
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: that ball? Yeah? So I think you had the whole sideline. Yeah,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: so I did read Evans piece and he did say
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: that there seems to be a fair number of positive
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: things with respect to the offense and even max play.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: So I don't know why, but I got a feeling
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: that we might actually be Okay. Well, I think this game,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: this could be a win for us because I think
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: that if the defense can and how how do I
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: put it? In the pregame was by asked we play
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: if we play offense so that not to lose and
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: our defense steps up. Really well, I think we got
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: a shot in this game, especially if we can run
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, I agree, all right, thanks Todd. I
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: mean I kind of divide these inner games of like,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: you know, conventional offenses, mobile quarterbacks, and then just I
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: think Buffalo and Miami are their own thing. They're a
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: division opponent. You know very well we know what those
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: two offenses are capable of, But you know, I don't
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I just think if the game unfolds right in a
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: game like Minnesota, you know, we'll see what Cincinnati they're
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: getting chased back. But you know, like Lamart, the thing
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: with Arizona, it's just Kyler Murray. They struggle with mobile quarterbacks,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I just how how's that going?
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like, I know the Cardinals aren't a
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: good team, but I would rather play the Vikings than
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Yeah, me too, Like defensively, I'd rather play
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: the Vikings than the Cardinals. Let's take one more before
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: we take a little break. Go to Patty and I
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: go on, Hey, Patty, what's going on? Hey, what's going on? Everyone?
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Not much, so just to sort of touch on what
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: you guys were talking about. Um when Bill said earlier
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: the season and during the season that this is sort
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: of on him, like the whole offensive philosophy and play
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: calling in et cetera, et cetera. Do you think at
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: some point, let's just say that they stagnate, they don't
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: they win maybe two or three more games for the
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: rest of the year. And I know Kyler brought this
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: up of a post game, but do you think perhaps
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: comes to Belichick after the season and says, look, this
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: is you know, this is your this is your business.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Let's figure it out because we have to be better
• 55:56
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• 55:59
  Speaker 1: we're not going to We're going to be in the
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: same situation we are next year than we are this year. Yeah. Thanks,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Patty appreciate it. Uh, I mean, I don't think anybody
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: needs to explain it to Bill like that, it's been terrible.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: But I do think there's a chance that Robert would go,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: do we need to do something more conventional in terms
• 56:15
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• 56:18
  Speaker 1: that'll go, Like, I mean, get them some help. Can
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: we get Matt Patricia something? Guys think we'd go into
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: next situation with the same offensive I don't want to believe.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that's why when we talk
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: about this speculation, it's like, well, at least bring an
• 56:32
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• 56:39
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• 56:42
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• 56:44
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  Speaker 1: nice tease, nice tease. Hopefully you guys all caught all
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  Speaker 1: twenty two Catch twenty two this morning with Evan close
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  Speaker 1: enough and uh barthy, what were you guys running about?
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  Speaker 1: I heard a little bit in the background there. I
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  Speaker 1: got pretty fired up about Matt Patricia. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think this is an old belichickism that players win
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  Speaker 1: games but coaches lose games. And in that game, if
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  Speaker 1: they had lost, I would have put like probably seventy
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  Speaker 1: five percent of the blame on the play caller. Now,
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  Speaker 1: obviously some of it has to be on the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line for giving up six acts, there's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 1: But in general, and we were talking about this upstairs
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  Speaker 1: and I wrote about it, and after further review, they
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  Speaker 1: have no foundation. There's nothing, there's no basis to this offense.
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  Speaker 1: Like when you look around in the league and you
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  Speaker 1: look around at the best offenses Buffalo, Kansas City, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, you can tell this is they
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  Speaker 1: are a outside zone team. They are a spread offense,
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  Speaker 1: Like this is what they do, Like, this is who
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  Speaker 1: they are and yeah, they have different variations off of that,
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  Speaker 1: and they have game planned wrinkles and all that good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll ask, like, what is the Patriots offense? Like
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  Speaker 1: what what are they? A random collection of plays that
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  Speaker 1: they try to execute that that's the That's the way
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  Speaker 1: it looks to me, Like what what are they? They
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  Speaker 1: are wanted? I'm not enough. I mean, I'm being good serious.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know offensive systems just to watch and say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's this, that's that. But I did want to ask
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  Speaker 1: you about some specific plays that they ran that I
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  Speaker 1: hadn't really seen in terms of formations. I thought they
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  Speaker 1: had success with the two tight ends in the backfield.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about this little house, yes, and I think
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  Speaker 1: twice it worked for big plays. Once, I think it
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  Speaker 1: caught the edge for a twenty two yard run, and
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  Speaker 1: I think they did a wrinkle off of that with
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  Speaker 1: a little dump to John or Smith for like twenty
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  Speaker 1: six Yeah, thirty yard run. Oh so it was a
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  Speaker 1: thirty yard run that was off of that formation, not
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  Speaker 1: the twenty two. Okay. So, Like my point was just
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  Speaker 1: that you haven't been able to move the ball all year.
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  Speaker 1: You haven't been able to score any points all year.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't move the ballo score any points in that game,
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  Speaker 1: but they dialed up some chunk plays, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: they most of the chunk plays they got were dialed up,
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  Speaker 1: schemed up with some things that the coaches did. So
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  Speaker 1: am I a little giving him a little too much credit? No,
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  Speaker 1: not at all. The full house package was a nice wrinkle,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's something that they can build on
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  Speaker 1: moving forward. I think the big thing is when you
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  Speaker 1: don't have a dominant offensive line, putting those two guys
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  Speaker 1: in the backfield as basically fullbacks, it helps, right, it
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  Speaker 1: just opens up bigger holes. Now, on Damien Harris's thirty
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  Speaker 1: yard run, he actually bounces it right because the flow
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  Speaker 1: the place sucks everybody into the into the trenches and
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  Speaker 1: sas Gardener kind of gets pulled in a little bit
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  Speaker 1: off the edge and he bounces it out the back
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  Speaker 1: door and there's nobody there. So whether it's going straight
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  Speaker 1: up the middle or it's bouncing it, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: everybody gets sucked into the full back action or what
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  Speaker 1: have you, that it generated an explosive And then later
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  Speaker 1: on in the game you run the tight ends through
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  Speaker 1: like you're doing the same exact thing. And what do
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  Speaker 1: you know, the linebackers jump up to step up to
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  Speaker 1: the run and he sneaked Johnny behind him and it's
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  Speaker 1: a twenty six yard play action pass. So these are
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  Speaker 1: the types of things that they put on tape that
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  Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, this is complimentary. This is building. We're scheming,
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  Speaker 1: we're sequencing, you know, this is coordinating an offense, this
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  Speaker 1: is play calling. But then what happens is is they
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  Speaker 1: get down to the Jets thirty yard line, let's call it.
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  Speaker 1: And they've gotten down there by running the full house package,
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  Speaker 1: by running the football and incorporating play action off of it.
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  Speaker 1: And now we're in the shotgun. And so now all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, we go from two back to back
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  Speaker 1: explosive plays from under center to get into Jets territory
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  Speaker 1: and we throw that out and we spread the field
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  Speaker 1: and we go into the shotgun and mac Jones goes backwards.
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  Speaker 1: And that, to me is the frustrating part, is that
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  Speaker 1: there's no it's one play at a time right now
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  Speaker 1: for them, right yeah, And I'm not telling you that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, let's let's give these guys a pound on
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  Speaker 1: the back. And they scored three points when they were
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  Speaker 1: under three hundred yards, Like I'm not. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: that it's a slog right now. So to find some
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  Speaker 1: some chunk plays, at least to me, that was the
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  Speaker 1: progress in that game. No that I know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of other people like it looked much better. Don't think
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  Speaker 1: it looked much better. I think they had some chunk
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  Speaker 1: plays in the game, and I was very encouraged by that.
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  Speaker 1: I think from a plate like to you a point, Evan,
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  Speaker 1: from a play to play standpoint, the sequence of plays
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  Speaker 1: didn't look all that much better than me. No, it
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't have good offenses. Marry everything up right, everything
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  Speaker 1: has a purpose because they're gonna run this and they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna show you that, and they're gonna run something else
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  Speaker 1: off of the same look. Okay, so everything is foundationally
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  Speaker 1: put together like that where you know they ran the
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  Speaker 1: fake toss bootleg they hit Hunter Henry for twenty yards. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was another one that I would put in there. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so they faked the toss to him, they bring him
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  Speaker 1: in motion, and they bring him into the formation like
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna crack block on a crack toss. It's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what they would do in that situation. But instead they
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  Speaker 1: hit play action. Great, so on the next play, run
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  Speaker 1: crack toss, right, Like, that's how you build up these
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  Speaker 1: types of things into an offense because now all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, we've shown you the bootleg. We've shown you
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  Speaker 1: that we actually will toss it. So now you got
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  Speaker 1: to worry about both things, and then you sequence off
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  Speaker 1: of that. So now maybe you know, you get cracked toss,
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  Speaker 1: then you get a bootleg, then you get a rollback
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  Speaker 1: play where they kind of toss it but he ends
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  Speaker 1: up coming up back through the middle. Like this is
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  Speaker 1: how you sequence together plays to move the football, and
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  Speaker 1: this offense, it's like we're just picking plays out of
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  Speaker 1: a hat, Like, okay, we ran a crack toss. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fake to Hunter, Henry comes across the formation,
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  Speaker 1: catches a twenty yard completion, and on the next play
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  Speaker 1: where you do something completely unrelated and totally different to
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  Speaker 1: the last play. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. Let's hop
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  Speaker 1: to the fund's real quick. Rashot and Baltimore had the
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  Speaker 1: fortunate elect to call right as we broke for lunch,
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  Speaker 1: ra shot where we're back, we're on what's going on? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll stop up everybody, Hi, Hi, I just want to.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to, So I'm not gonna I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be negative, but I gotta say, like, the offense
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  Speaker 1: like it is, it is what I thought it's Niven.
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  Speaker 1: It is like it's worse like that game that game Funday,
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  Speaker 1: like three to three, three to three. I'm like, we're
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  Speaker 1: lucky if we can even get We're lucky if we
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  Speaker 1: can even tie. Like I mean, I'm Musket Jones, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy that. I'm happy that he made a play.
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  Speaker 1: I'm loving that. And then Jack Jones, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: loving I'm loving the development. But the offense it's less
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  Speaker 1: it is less than desirable. It's it's just like it's
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  Speaker 1: just what I gotta watch every week every week. Well,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: got Timetown games coming up. That was bad. I mean
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: that was I think the Jets games in the in
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: the Colts game, those three, I think those were particularly bad.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I haven't seen them. Look at but and
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say that the opponent had something to
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  Speaker 1: do with that little bit. I think that the Jets
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: and the Colts have pretty good defenses. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna see that kind of a defense respect to
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: the Jets defense, because defense give them some credit. It
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  Speaker 1: came to play. Yeah, it's just like, you know, like,
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  Speaker 1: let me just put it this way, rashod like I
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  Speaker 1: would say that a lot of people have given a
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  Speaker 1: lot of respect to the Patriots defense for what they
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  Speaker 1: did on Sunday, holding a team to one hundred yards
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: and no, no, no, you know, I'm trying to be
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  Speaker 1: fair here. Like around here, the focus has been on
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: the Patriots defense was dominant. In other places, they'll say
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: that was one of the worst offensive performances you'll ever see.
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  Speaker 1: More accurate. Yeah, you know, but you know what I'm
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: saying is so like, let's give the other team a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of credit. I would give the Patriots some credit.
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  Speaker 1: I think Zach Wilson missed a number. We talked about
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: this the Three of Us Live. We saw guys that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: he was missing, especially that one with Conklin. To me,
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  Speaker 1: that changed his whole day. I don't think he was
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: miserably bad until he missed that throw, and then the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: second half was like he was playing left handed. That's
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  Speaker 1: how bad he was throwing the ball in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for appreciate it. The only way that you can
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: watch the Patriots defense and I hate doing it, but
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: you have to keep in mind, well, how is this
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: going to look against Buffalo? How's this going to look
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: against Miami again, Cincinnati? Like those are the teams that
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to compete with. They're not trying to get again,
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  Speaker 1: that's all. That's all fair. And the concern that I
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  Speaker 1: had after watching it back was if they play a
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: better quarterback on Sunday. There's a lot more plays on
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: that field than Zach Wilson was able to hit. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: even though you talk about the one to Conklin over
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  Speaker 1: the middle where he threw the ball to the open
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: guy but just sailed it over his head, there was
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: others that he missed. You know, they they want to
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: try that they got into scoring territory when they kicked
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: the field goal. Patriots busted a coverage guy wide open
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: in the end zone like this, jumping up and down
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: trying to get I didn't see that trying to get
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's attention. I think it was Garrett Wilson who
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: went off after the game. Well, there was a slant
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: that on a third down that he threw behind in
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: low to Mims yeah, that Garrett Wilson was underneath for
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: the first down, easy throwing jetch and that was one
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: of the ones that Ye, Wilson's like, so he's a rookie,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: he's played ten games and he's already got it. They
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: switch released it, and so the Patriots didn't pass off
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: the switch properly and busted the coverage completely like nobody
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: within twenty yards of them. So I think in a sense,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I look at it and I say, Okay, well that's
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  Speaker 1: good because Bill's gonna come in on Monday when they
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: go over corrections and be like, hey, guys, you're not
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: that good, like what's this? Yeah, you know, and they
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: can build up and learn from that. So in some ways,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's not a bad thing that they're making
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: some of these mistakes. But I just think I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if Kirk Cousins can do it, because they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: put him in a lot of pressure, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think I don't know if that's gonna end up
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: being a game where they're really tested in the secondary.
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  Speaker 1: But a week from Thursday, if they play coverage like
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: they did against the Jets against Josh Allen Hill drop
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  Speaker 1: forty on them here like that. That's just a reality.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: That's the elephant in the room that I think since
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: they didn't force upon back in Buffalo, that we've all
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: just kind of been like, no matter what, the defense
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: kind of does until they go back up against Josh
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Allen and actually, you know, they can be a speed bump.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: I know that's this thing. You don't have to play
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: the hits. I just want to make said the offense.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: It was easy to tire. You don't need to play
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: the hits. My favorite tweet from Sunday's game was Mina
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Comes tweeted, Jets Patriots has been a masterclass in coaching,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Like you don't trust your quarterback? Well, that's uh, that's
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: about it. So that was a comment that I made
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: on the postgame show that I got attacked them all
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: and now suddenly that means that I'm killing Mac Jones,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: which I am not. I think Mac Jones is on
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: the list of problems. He ain't at the top of it. Yeah,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about that in the pregame show too,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: and behind enemy Lines he's like, how many games can
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: you win when when you don't trust Zack Wilson. But
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, it's the same way. How many games
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: can you win when you don't trust mac Jones. It's
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: trying to trying to games. Can you win with just
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: defense and special times? Not easy. Let's let's jump ru
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: real quick, NAT Santa Cruz, HEYNT what's going on? Hey guys?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: So so, I actually I was just thinking about this
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: with the going for it on fourth down and then
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: some of the short yardage plays, Like I didn't have
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: a problem with going for it on fourth down just
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: because it looked like Dack Wilson like had throws that
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: he missed, Like it very well could have been the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Jeff could have scored six or nine on a ten
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: points in that game. So I guess the fact that
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: that they wanted to go for it. What I had
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: a problem with was in short yardage, You've got remond
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Ring Stevenson in there. You've got a quarterback who is
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: still recovering from an injury. So at that point, as
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: a defense, don't you think that the defense just says, oh,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: it's a run play to Remondring Stevenson, we can sell
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: out with everything we have on a run play, because
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna do, isn't that what you're doing
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: should yard is nine times out of ten like to me,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: to me, like, I hear what you're saying about the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: throws that Zach Wilson missed. To me, it would be
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: the opposite reason. I would say, pin him down and
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: make him make four or five throws as opposed to
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: give him the ball to thirty six yard line and
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, if he makes a throw
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: one throw, they potentially are in field goal range and
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: I can lose. That's why I would have punted on
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: that play. Then the one. If you guys disagree, that's
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: fine too, like with I mean, that's what these football
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: decisions shouldn't be universally agreed. You know, there's a lot
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: of different ways to look at it, and Nat just
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: brought up a different way. At the time fourth and
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: three from the thirty six, I'm like, punted, pin him
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: inside the ten and see if you can get off
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: the ten yard line again. The last time you got
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: away with it and they punted. Let's see if he
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: could do it again. And then that's how I'm gonna
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: win this game. Eventually, I'm gonna take over close enough
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: to field goal range. I don't have to do anything.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kick a field goal. I didn't have
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: as much problem with the decision to go for it
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: as I did the play call. I just think, you
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: look at that whole sequence. It goes back to what
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I was saying when I first sat down, which is,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: you know, first down, first and ten. They actually pulled
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Trent Brown, and the Jets defense wanted no part of it.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Like they got three and eighty pound Trent Brown coming
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: downhill at him. They gave six yards at second and four.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Then I'm thinking, okay, well you just did that. The
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: Jets defense a hadn't really seen that in the game yet,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: and you don't run it a ton on film either,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: so they're probably a little surprised by it. So I
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: would say, just run it again, right like until until
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: they stop it, Like let's just hoss crack, let's keep
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: running again. Or you know, I know this is next level.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: Or we pulled Trent Brown and it's play action, right,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: so he pulls, but we actually don't run it. We
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: actually play action it. And now your linebackers are coming
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: flying because they got to take on the freaking mountain
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: coming through the hole. And now you hit a big
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: playoff of play action like they were doing all afternoon,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: but instead they ran outside zone and David Harris gets
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: hit by three guys in the backfield and loses three yards.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Now it's third and seven, so it's just a get
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: I just don't know what they are. And then then
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: shotgun fourth down and a shotgun run a sweep out
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: of the gun on fourth and three. That's your play call.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: My real problem. Yeah, I think everything you said is
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: spot on with that sequence. I don't know how I
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: want third and seven. So okay, so you did what
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: none of us wanted to do when you lost three
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: yards on second down. Third and seven, we're just gonna
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: run off tackle and you know, yeah, and then say well,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go We're gonna go fart on fourth down anyway.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: So like, I just feel like you didn't even give
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: yourself a shot. Third and seven, we're gonna say two
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: runs here? What are we? Navy? Well, Evan, where are
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: you at? Because I feel like last maybe last week
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: or the week before, you were kind of you were
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: out of Matt Chillen's under center. And now it sounds
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: a little bit like you're saying they're having some success
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: under center, and you've got some issues with them. Conflicts. Now, yeah, conflicts.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: It's very true. I've flip flopped a little bit on this.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: I think, what this is my inner struggle with this
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: situation because I want them to be a spread offense,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: right like I want them to be Alabama Like. I
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: want them to be RPO spread offense. Hit guys in
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: stride and watch them create after the catch. That's what
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: I want them to be. Okay, but right now, because
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: of mainly I would say their offensive line, they don't
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: have the line to be that unfortunately, because you're you know,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: shotgun drop back, you're dropping, you're setting to about you know,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: ten yards eleven yards. Mack joneses say, he's got to
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: have the tackle play to be able to run those
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: guys by, which they just don't have. And then if
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: you don't have the tackle play, then you have to
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: have the interior to step up in the pocket, which
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: they just don't have. So that's one thing. When you're
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: a shotgun based team running the football out a shotgun,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: you need to have a really good offensive line to
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: do that because you're really just blocking with five guys
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: and trying to just you know, make it happen. So
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: as much as I want them to be a shotgun team,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they can execute shotgun. And the
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: things that they've done well really going back to Zappy
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: is the seven guys in the protection, two guys in
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: the route, hard play action off of something, and then
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: you know, stressing the deep part of the field with
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: the coverage and hunting those chunk plays. So that's just
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: been their most successful stuff has been that, and they
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: weren't running it very well with Mac, but in this
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: game they found some wrinkles, you know, of the full
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: house formation. They had some of those Zappy style play
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: actions if you will, where there's seven guys in the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: protection plus the back, so it's really like an eight
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: man almost like a max protect situation. So that that's
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: been their best offense, and unfortunately that's just kind of
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: how they have to play. How did the Andrews look?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: We mentioned on the radio, we don't have to do
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: a whole Evan's back from practice thing, but we saw
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Andrews was out there. When did you what did you think?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: How was he moving? I think he's crazy. I mean,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I think he's out there. He was moving pretty well.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: He looked like he was locked in and like trying
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: to participate in some capacity in this practice. So we'll
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: see what the injury report says. I think a lot
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: of the reports that came out were wishy washy, because
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I agree one, I think that reporting on something not
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: to take any shots at the Big Jay's, but reporting
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: on something an hour after it happens on game day
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: when he hasn't undergone any sort of testing whatsoever, is
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: probably not the best approach. Oh, it doesn't look good
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: season ending. I mean, I don't know. We thought he
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: had a broken steamer, right, I'm sorry, I heard serious
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: eye injury, possibly season ending. I'm thinking that they think
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: he may have broken the steamer. Yeah, that's what I'm think.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Femer torn quat, you know, completely like he would have
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: torn quat. Yeah, I mean, I guess you're right. That's
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: probably pretty serious to climb up the leg like it's
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: just completely detached. Yeah, Like, uh, well that happened to
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Steff right, Oh right that Miami game year and then
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: he was on pup to start the following season, right, Yeah,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: So I guess, yeah, that's pretty I think that weird though.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: Do you watch the play like the play I can't
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: tell what the heck happened. He just kind of gets
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: out in space, he's kind of adjustin to block, and
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: then he just kind of gets spun a little bit.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: It's hard to see what the contact. Yeah, I think
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: that they you know, I think some of the reports
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: that are coming out now or after the testing and
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: after the imaging, it's not severe enough that for a guy,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: you know, David Andrews wants to play through it and
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, I think play playing on Thursdays.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine he's playing this crazy, But I don't know.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe I would. I would say the next two Thursdays
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: is probably pushing it. But then you have that long
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: break until the Cardinals game on Monday night. It's like
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: a ten day break or something like that. Maybe maybe
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: he's able to play. I think that's sort of been
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: the thinking with Christian Barmore as well, is you know,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: let's shut him down and then we have that long
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: layoff and and will hopefully get him back, you know,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: for the last four games of the season. Hopefully they
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: can use him for meaningful games at that point. Right disappointing.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: I just thought was one thing coming in um I
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: wanted to see, wanted to bar more season, but I
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: haven't gotten much of it. Uh, let's go to the emails, Paul.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: They're stacking up, and I have I've ignored them. I
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: haven't ignored them, but we've been talking about a lot
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: so UM. But let's power through them. We really appreciate
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: everybody writing in. UM gonna start here. I don't know.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting from Ford Hello World's original podcast.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I believe defense doesn't win championships except about every seven years.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: The Ravens, the Seven Giants, the fifteen Broncos. In the
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: twenty two Patriots. Could the Patriots sneak into the playoffs
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: and make a run on defense? He's kind of drawing
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: the comparison to the Seven Giants. Do you think do
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: you think something like that could come together for for
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: this squad? Not without offense. The thing was like Eli
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: just played out of his mind. Yeah, I think. I
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: think there are different things. I think people look at
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: like the individual super Bowl itself, and they're like, well,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: the better defense beat the better offense, so defense wins championships.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: But they don't take into consideration that the Patriots don't
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl, say in eighteen without scoring
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: forty plus points in the playoff games or at thirty
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: seven in Kansas City to get there, Like, that's what
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: it took to get there. Like, you didn't get there
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: in the back of your defense. You got there in
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: the back of Tom Brady, who was out of his
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: mind in those first two playoff games. Yeah, they won
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl thirteen to three. The defense won that game.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no one says the defense can't win a game.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: But it's hard to win a title like that. It's
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: hard to imagine you go down the stretch and win
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: enough of these games against Buffalo, Miami, Arizona, Vegas, and
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati to get to the playoffs, and then get to
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: the playoffs and then beat those teams again to get
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl without any offense. That's all defense.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: That Yeah, that's the biggest thing to me is that
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: you have to in order to win a Super Bowl,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: you have to be able to play different types of games, right,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: because not every game is going to go perfect the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: way that you planned it. So in order to win
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, you have to be able to win
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: a shootout. You have to be able to win a
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: thirteen to three game, you have to be a weather
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: games snow. You know, they put up thirty seven points
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: that night on the Chiefs in arctic temperatures it was
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: like ten degrees. You know, you have to be able
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: to do these types of things and these games, because
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna beat Josh Allen or Patrick
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: Mahomes in a playoff game, you know, ten to three,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: Like that game is gonna is gonna be in the
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: thirties if you're gonna win that game. So there's there's
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: some games like you could be the Titans ten to three, right,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: like that game could turn into a slot that kind
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: of a game. But that's just one game. Ray and
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: Pa writes in now this a little bit how the
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: sausage gets made here by the media. Thought occurred to
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: me during the great Mac Jones ankle watch of twenty
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: twenty two, and hit me again today with the early
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: practice reports. Is it forbidden for the media to zoom
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: in on a particular player during practice available. I just
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: opened Twitter and four or five different reports that David
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Andrews is taking part in practice today and is moving great,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: moving well, which is great, But then you're forced to
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: watch a wide angle video of the entire press. Yeah,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: I saw a video that did not look like he
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: was moving all that great, But uh well, I think
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: you're allowed to. But I think everybody's just got their phone,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: so we all know how crappy it is when you
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: try to zoom your phone. And some of the TV
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: outlets should have better floatage obviously with real canvas. Get
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: it turned around. Yeah. Just also just to add to that,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: so media reporters, like beat reporters, where we have to
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: be in a corner of the end zone. That is
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: in one corner, and David Andrews was diagonally across a
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: hundred yard football field. That's the angle I saw in
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: the other corner, and we have to stay in that
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: ten yard box. So especially you wander. There's also a
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: certain time allotments exactly you've been allowed to take photos.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah there, so what are you really going to see
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: when someone is like stretching, I would say, David, that
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: seventy five yards away from us. Yeah, when those photos
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: were being taken, and as good as iPhone cameras are now,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: zoom that zoom is only going to get you so far.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: You got to go to Mark Daniels binoculars outside of
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: the a Pruter film, right, isn't that what marked us? Yes? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: a couple of guys. I'm not going to go there.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: You think that that might be like a something that
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: you might invest in. Is just buying like a little
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: camera that's high quality that can zoom in pretty well.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, the new iPhone camera that three zoom
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: is better than my DSLR. I regret buying myself a
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: DSLR camera. Yeah, mirrorless, yeah it is. I don't know.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: It might if one of us Beat reporters walks in
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: with the with an actual camera, it might be frowned.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not gonna lie. It's just not all
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: that important. I'm sure it will. Neil from Um not sure,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: Warwick writes in Happy ten year butt fumbled, everybody, thank
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: you you too. Let's celebrate quick one. What's your favorite
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: dishes for Thanksgiving? Anybody? I'm not good at this. You
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: guys can go. You like food? Yeah, I don't like
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving all that much. The food the day could you
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: kill I'm not a big Turkey guy. The dessert as yeah, yeah,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: sweep potatoeat sweet potato par my mom is an incredible
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: chef like incredible. I look forward to Thanksgiving all year.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Mine's not an it's nice. Her stuffinggendary. Her stuffing is legendary.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: We all go out on Thanksgiving Eve, me and my friends,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: and traditionally my friends will come to my house after
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: the bar three am. We roll in. My friends want
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: to know if the stuffing is made yet. That was
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: my house when my grandmother was still alive. Because my
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: grandmother lived with us and she was an amazing cook,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: and everybody would be like, ye, shout out, Cathy, is Nana?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Do you think Nana is up? I go, Nana's always up,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: what do you want? And we would just go. We'd
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: just walk in the house and she'd stop cooking. It
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: was like good fellas, I'm not lying. But if we
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: come in, like all of us would be bleepe faced,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: and she'd be like, sit down, my mom. And she
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: never went to bed, right, She never went to bed.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: She stayed awake and waited with a big momo coat
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: with like gravy stains all over it. That was my grandmother's,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: My whole life. So we've been to everybody's pulling people
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: in the locker room this week asking Thanksgiving questions, And Mike,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: we're gonna start with you first. Would you rather cook
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: or clean up? Cook? Absolutely? Paul, clean up, Alex cook clean? Wow,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: what do you cook? Cook? I think I can't cook.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: I can't cook. I don't think I could cook at turkey.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: But you're leaving up. It's so many dishes. Well, one time,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: wake up early, cook the dishwasher. Everything can't hit in
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: the dishwasher. When I lived in la I worked as
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: a caterer briefly, and I was I had to go
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: to this house in Brentwood where they basically just hired
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: me to be kind of their white Why am I now,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: I'm envisioning like a random I was just there exactly,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: and so it was funny because you know, lady, you're
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: helping set things up. You know, it's this lady, very nice,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: very nice house in Brentwood, h you know. And then
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: and then the dishes start coming off the table, and
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's what's the protocol here? Might like supposed
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: to do all the dishes like I did because I
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: didn't know what else to do. But I just started
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: cleaning all the dishes and I did the whole thing.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: But it's just one of those random Thanksgivings where you're like,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: I catered for a rich family in Brentwood, California. Also,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: could you pickture Thanksgiving without football now? And that's what
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: we're writing about on the round table today. I miss
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: I miss the high school football. That was one of
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: my favorite things was just the ten am. The games
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: meant something. Everybody comes back, you know, it's it's the
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: precursor to the dinner. So you get up in the morning,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: you know, you see all the kids are coming back
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: from college that you haven't seen in a couple of years.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: You know, you're you're your friends are playing on the field,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: all their families are there. This is the biggest game.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, it used to matter so much more in Massachusetts.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: It used to be these games were to go to
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls and you know, and now sometimes they're just
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: kind of exhibitions against what were what used to be
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: your rival. But talking to some of the guys in
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: the press room, same kind of thing, like, just those
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: games used to be so big. It was my favorite
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: part of Thanksgiving, just the whole atmosphere of that. You know,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: you come home, you're cold, you're starving, like you would
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: have breakfast a few hours ago. But now you're like ready,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: the house smells, your grandparents are here all of a sudden.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: Now it's like the good teams are just sitting all
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: their players for the super Bowl, and the bad teams
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: cut Like those games kind of mean something because it's
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: the seniors last game, but it's like they're not in
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: the playoffs for a reason. Right, So it's like you
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: watch those Needham Wellesley will always mean something. I can
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: tell you that I covered it once. Yeah, yeah, I
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: covered them. My dad played in it. Ye just got
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of good, good Needham Wellesley memories, like the
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: oldest isn't like the oldest rivalry and and yes, yeah,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: I mean we like to say that I do, and
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: isn't it yeah yeah? And f Wellesley always how did
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: you do at? I was coaching Wellesley at that time,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: uh one, our senior years storm the field. That was
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: fun at Needham. Um. Now they they they beat up
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: on us a little bit. We were We were much
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: better than Wesley. Guy now well I used to three
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: to ninety seven. I coach baseball and I coached football
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: in ninety seven, ninety six, ninety seven. Let's let's check
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: in with La again, our third caller from the beautiful
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: state of California and Los Angeles. There, hold on chat button,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: all right, there are chat Hey, what's going on? Hey?
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: How are you guys doing good? I got so enthralled
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: in turkey talk I almost forgot about the pat Um
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: that's the idea. I Um My question though, is about,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: um the little spell that mac Jones had with the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: injury during the game. Um, have you guys talked about
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: that at all? And then, you know, has there been
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: any zappy talk since what injury we're talking about in
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: this dam? Yes, there was, there was something with his ankle.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: I think during the game he did go down a
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: little bit awkwardly on a scramble on one play, But yeah,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: didn't didn't seem to. I didn't notice. I didn't even
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: notice any histrionics with that one. I didn't wasn't an
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: injured port yesterday. No, I didn't really notice anything. Um. Yeah,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything anything with Bailey Zappie coming
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: that I'd be stunned. No, thanks, Chad, um Claire. I
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: think he continues to move reasonably well, like you know,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: considering he had a high ankle sprain and missed the
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: time that he did from the day he came back
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: against Chicago. Yeah, I do not see mobility as being
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: a huge issue. I thought I thought this was the
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: this game. He looked like he had some pocket presents back.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: It looked like he had a couple of throws. He
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: took a couple of steps, he delivered it with with
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: guys kind of closing in around him. It didn't look
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: like he was panicking as much as as maybe he
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: did in the past. But um Claire writes in Hello everyone,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: harmering after the game, haven't tweeted out his prediction of
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: the old line now going forward left to Trent cole
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: Farns and when you could just, of course David Andrews
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: could throw a wrench in that with his amazing ability
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: to get back out there. Do you all think this
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: would be a good idea to sacrifice an extra spot
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: to cannon like in flex to help out could just
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: seem to struggle, and we know strange has issues when
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: there's no Andrews. Um I'll sure what she meant by
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: the canons still on, still on, irm, But I just
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: I'm number one, number two. I think you could make
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: a strong argument that out of all of the performances
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: of individual offensive lineman, he'd be among the worst. Cannon
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: I know, and I think just has been better than
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: Cannon and to day, I know, And that's what I
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: was going to say. I mean, that was I kind
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: of had like that like false hope of like I
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: don't know, we haven't seen yadmikns just yet. Eke. I
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: mean that was like it's just as bad. And that's
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: what's just so frustrating. It's been a problem. I mean,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: the past protection is an issue. I know they're the
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: sixth ranked offensive line in football, but it really just
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: makes you wonder, like why the past protection has been
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: an issue? It just the yeah I did that on purpose. Yes.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: The way I think the biggest thing is with the
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: tackle play is that on some of these plays, like
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: the quarterback just doesn't have a chance. Right. It's not
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: even just that, Okay, if you give up a sack,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: you know, three and a half seconds into the down,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: you're like, all right, well, you know, get the ball
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: out QB, right, But when your quarterback gets hit at
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: two point three seconds after the snap, it's like, like
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: we we gotta get more of an effort than that.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was one play. One of the sacks
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: happened in two point seven seconds and both tackles end
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: up flat on their faces, both tackles, And I'm just
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like embarrassing, we just got in the
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: first play of the game was a sack. I was like,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be, but it depends on our season, Like
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: they've just been the liability all year. What do you
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: think happened on that first play, because I mean, I know,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: look sometimes like offenses, they mirror plays and they'll and
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: they'll do different things on each side, and if it's
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: a certain coverage, they'll go to one side. But like
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: that opening play, Cole Strange is pulling out its like
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: there was going to be like a little screen pass
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: of some sort. But Matt just doesn't even really he
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: looks that off instantly and looks to the right side,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: and either of those guys are even open. He clutches
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: it once and then boom, he's on the ground. It's
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: a package play, so you have a it's kind of
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: like a guarpo, except it's a screen instead of a run.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: So they have a screen to one side and then
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: they have two routes to the other side, and just
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: based off of C. J. Mosley as the player that
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: he's reading in the middle of the defense, if Mosley
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: goes out towards the screen, then he's going to come
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: to the routes on the back side. If he stays
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: in the middle, he's going to throw the screen because
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: it's a number. It's a numbers game right now. I
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: thought that they probably might have had the numbers anyways
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: on the screen if he wanted to throw it the safety,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: the deep safety would have been unblocked. But that's kind
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: of that's Damian Harris's guy, right, Like, you got to
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: make somebody miss at some point. So I think maybe
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: they could have still thrown the screen. But I think
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: what he was expecting to happen when he came off
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: the screen and came back to Hunter Henry and then
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: they were bringing the blitz. I think he thought Hunter
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: he was going to look for the ball right away,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: and instead Hunter Henry still kind of went into the
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: route right and if he was looking right if if
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry gets his head around right away and they
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: just hit it, you know, at two or three yards
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: instead of you know, six yards, then maybe that play
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: would have been available just because the blitz comes in
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: the safety to over the top is taking Hunter, Henry
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: and man coverage in YadA, YadA, YadA. But yeah, it
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: was a cool like I don't mind the play design.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: I honestly, I think it's kind of a cool thing
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: to do if they can execute it properly. But they
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: just I think, you know, time and time again, when
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: it comes to blitz pressure, it just doesn't seem like
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: everybody is aware that the opponent is blitzing. And it
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: goes back to Week one against Miami on the strip
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: sack right right off out of the gate. It just
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they are aware that, okay, blitz is coming,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: like now I gotta get out of this break faster.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: I gotta get my head around quicker. And some of
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: the checkdowns too that they designed also, like you know,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: everybody's like check it down, check it down. It's like
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Remandre's back is still to the quarterback like he's not
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: even in his route yet. So they got to get
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: some of these things faster, right, Everything needs just needs
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: to be faster. Um with the way that they they
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: are running their routes in the timing of the passing game,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: Kareem Rights in first, give me a little shout out, says,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of like Drew Bledsoe in two thousand and
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: one replacing Tom Brady in the AFC Championship. Here with
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: my stellar hosting, I would want to go to Super
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: Bowls couplet A couple couple of near interceptions there to
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: James Harrison, Um, but is that question, do you feel
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: confident in the Patriots winning any of the remaining games?
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: Some of them are clearly harder than the rest. Uh,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: But I can't see the Patriots being favored in any
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: and they certainly won't be favored probably. I mean maybe
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: maybe in Arizona, but I don't know about Arizona in Vegas.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: But there's a chance. But yeah, they'll win games. They're
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: not gonna go winless the rest of them. They're not
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: gonna lose the last seven games. I feel confident. They're
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: feel really confident in that. I feel confident they're gonna
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: be Minnesota and they're gonna win one of Arizona in Vegas.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: I I would feel very confident about that, probably with Arizona.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: I just think the question is is two Buffalo, one Miami,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: and one Cincinnati and those are, you know, the good
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: teams in the AFC. I don't know, I really don't
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: know what should have three of those at home? But
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: will it matter? So you shouldn't lose all four of
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: those games. They should three of them at home. They
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: should win both of the West Coast games. They should
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: beat Arizona, and they should beat the Raiders. They have
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: the Raiders one I think is a little sneaky, just
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: because of the McDaniels angle, and that game is going
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: to obviously mean a lot to him, and Belichick's record
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: against his former assistance is not very good, especially the
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: first time that they play, so there's that angle to it.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: But they're they're a better team than both those teams
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: and Arizona's and as much shambles as Vegas is right now,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if Cliff Kingsbury is going
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: to make it there, but their injury situation, to me
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: is worrisome because if those guys come back, Yeah, if
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: you get Kyler Murray back and he has a full compliment,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: then I would say that they're capable of scoring points. Yeah.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: I think they're deeps are both bad Cardinals, and I
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: just think that there's something about Kyler, And I know
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: the last time they played him, he was a little
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: banged up in that game too. He had like an
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: ankle or something like that, so he wasn't he wasn't
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: running at one hundred percent. So I know that mobile
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: quarterback ankles going to terrify people with Kyler, But with
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you know, there's like an area of the
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: field that they're just not going to throw too. And
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: that's like the middle of the field for Kyler because
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: he's a little bit of a short guy. Yeah, and
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: so he's just not going to throw it to the middle,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: the short middle or the really the intermediates, intermediate middle,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: eitherstring hamstring. That's a weird quarterback. Yeah whatever. I just
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: think that if he plays, they have the ability to
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: score twenty points. Yeah. And if they scored twenty points,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: you can beat the Patriots. I'm like, it's too high,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I'm not telling you that twenty
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: will win. I'm saying if you can score twenty against
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, you have a very good chance of winning. Yeah.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: Brennan for Nettington, it's a little little physic, isn't very Canadian?
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Is mac Jones the fourth best Jones on the team.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's why. Maybe he's a second. I still
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: think he's got the two rookies. I don't know about
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: Jay Jones though he's j Jones is balling out right now?
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: Which one there's two? John Johnny Johnny. We call him
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: Johnny around here. Um. Another one here from Eric from
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: ams am Hurstberg, am Hurstberg. That's that's a new one. Um.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: I agree with Evan on the play calling. The old
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: line play calling looks like my friends playing Madden. They
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: call random plays and hope it works. I feel like
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: that's what Maddie p is doing. Get an all old
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: line and a real play caller and see how our
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: offense works with any QB. I prefer Mac, but don't
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: care who plays as long as we keep winning. Happy Thanksgiving.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: There was no question in that one. I kind of
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: why I took that, you know, I started walking down though.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: That's like the ass There a question here, thoughts. They
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: just love to give their take. Thoughts. Yeah, here's my take.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: Ye what do you think? Do you agree with my comment?
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Talk about my take, talk about it, talk about it
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: all right, hopefully hopefully right. From Saint Louis, got a
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: good question in here. I'm gonna jump right in one
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: question off the top of all your heads, what is
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: the biggest head scratching decision Bill has made of all
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: time that you can remember. Mine would be in the
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: wildcard game against the Titans when we didn't have a
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: returner back to receive the punt, forcing us to try
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: and make a comeback deep in our own territory that
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: isn't had market Jones. Then that is your most head
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: scratching decision he's ever made. Bill. Yeah, I think we're
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: living it right now. I think this is it for me.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: That's my sweet spot. Malcolm not playing against I was
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: gonna say that's one big one for me personally, that
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: one kicking in overtime against the Jets, putting Chris Harper
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: back to return to punt up fourteen, and now the
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: Titans wild card game with not putting her return her back,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: that's the biggest I'm sorry, mortar kick up fourteen against
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia at fifty. You could play the Hits running Stephen
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: Jackson one hundred and eleven straight plays when all you
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: need to do is win a game and get the
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: number one sit. There's a lot fourth and two we've
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: really tell you this is this is Miami miracle. Yeah.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: Another one that's certainly a special place for Malcolm Butler
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: because it's a super Bowl and that was a competitive
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: and this is a conversation about number two. Tom Brady
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: is the best player in the history of the papers
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: have gone by Butler and I still don't know Jack,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: but like the other ones, are all individual bad in
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: game weird decisions like this for me right now with
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: the offensive situation, when you had a first round quarterback
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: and you were just kind of like, let's see what
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: top five this is? This to me, top five is major.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: It's played out exactly like it did in our worst
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: nightmares coming into this season. And I don't know how
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: much confidence I have to think. I think you can
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: make the argument that Malcolm Butler also had a long
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: term impact like that they got I'm not gonna say
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: they got lucky and eighteen, but they kind of struck
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: lightning in eighteen. I don't think they thought that team
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: was going to win a Super Bowl. But that was
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the end. To me, like that, that
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: was sort of the beginning of the end of Brady
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: wanting to leave in the first place, so in that respect,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with Mike that this decision to
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: mess with Max development, with this set up on offense
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: has a long term impact on the franchise beyond this season,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: Like this could have put them back another five years,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: you know, if he if they end up, if they
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: end up ruining him, absolutely, and then they have to
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: start all over again, and big picture things like that.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: You know, it's one hundred years ago now, but um,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: the O six season and going in and saying, yeah, sure, we'll,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll let David Gibbons walk in free agency,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: and you know, we'll you know, we're not going to
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: give de Branch anything and we'll we'll Kyle Taw and
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: trade him. And then we're gonna chase wide receivers all
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: the year and as a result, we're going to be
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: a wildcard team and as a results of that, we're
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the road back to back weeks in
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: the playoffs and blow a chance to win a Super
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: Bowl because that hanging, said riche Calwell catches the ball,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: we're not talking about no, no, But if that game's
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: not in Indianapolis, we're not talking about this. Yes, and
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: that game shouldn't have been piping in odd noise. Don't
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: forget the flu that they were pumping into and get
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: the flu. The whole team got the flu. The whole
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: store got the flu. Speed rights, and happy Thanksgiving to
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: you all, even Evan Speed. He wrote that at the
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: tail end of the postgame show, Fred said the following,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: I think that God, wait, what is that that? I
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: spell that on my shirt? Now? I think that if
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: the things Mac were responsible for we're looking okay, people
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be as freaked out because you can fix the
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: other things. But when your quarterback is having trouble, now
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: you suck. Even though Mac was thoroughly average on Sunday,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: I feel seen by Fred question how different similar does
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: Max seem this year too, relative to post back post
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: by Mac last year? Speed, buddy, that's topee tough. I
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: respect the hustle, but we gotta we gotta move on
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: from this this conversation, Like we gotta let it go,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: Speed Okay, Like we all are on board peace that
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: that Mac has not been playing well, but he gave
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: you no no, because it's just every single time it's
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: how bad is Mac? Now? Like he's not been good?
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Like how it is he compared to post By Mac
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: last year. I mean, I don't know, but you know,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: one of the few that talks like that, like it's
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: past protection, it's coaching. He hasn't been good. You include that.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: A lot of the people don't. Yeah, he hasn't been good.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: I think that what I have learned and this is
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: not are shattering or something that a lot of second
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: year quarterbacks aren't in the same exact bucket. I mean,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: we just watched another second year quarterback play probably the
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: worst football game I've ever seen a quarterback play in
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: a while, when Zach Wilson. So it's not like he's alone,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: but he's a product, like I hate to call system quarterback.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: I hate using that that phrase, but like he's a
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: product of things going well around him. And I think
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: you know, when things are are going well around him
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: in the offense, is is well coached and well coordinated,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: and the offensive line and can protect and then he
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: can distribute the ball. I mean, Hunter Henry said it
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: to us after the game. When we keep him clean
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: and we give him opportunities to make throws, he's great. Yeah,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: they know it, Like you know, he's saying right to
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: our faces. Like, when this guy gets under pressure, he's
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: not very good, you know, and that's that's that's the
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: book right now, right. I mean, he's one of the
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: worst passers in the league while under pressure. So he's
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: not doing anything to elevate a bad situation. There's there's
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. No. But but I think what
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: we saw from him against the Jets is, you know,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: kind of what you want. That's what I wanted to
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: get to that too before we finished. Like, I think
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: that that was kind of kind of a return to
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: what he did when he was at his best last year.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: You know, twenty three for twenty seven, you know, two
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: hundred and nothing even close to a turnover, right, he didn't.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: He didn't throw anything anywhere near harm's ways keep going.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: I know he took six sex. Yeah, and I think
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: that's part of of the browbeating of stop turning the
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: ball over, and that's why you're not throwing the ball
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: away at times when I think you have a chance.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think you had a chance six times to
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: throw the ball away, but I think at least one
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: once when they were in field goal range on the
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: field goal that hit the crossbar. I think it was
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: one of them. So what I'm what I'm getting at
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: is this was a little bit of a departure from
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: the way they were going about the passing game earlier
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: in the year, when people were saying, why don't they
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: get back to what they would do in last year?
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: It worked? No, it didn't. Yeah, and it didn't work
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: Sunday either. It looked better. The numbers looked great, twenty
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: three for twenty seven. Anybody would sign up for that
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: any day of the week. Nine yards per tien absolutely
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: three points and I'll even say should have had nine points.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: They missed two field goals, yeah, right, the one that
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: he's doing good enough, the one that he's doing you know,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: he wants Nelson Agalore on a on a corner route
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: against cover two, and it's not not there, right Like,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: it's not it's decent coverage and it's a little bit
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: of like a contested throw, there's no doubt about it.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: But you know, if he puts that ball in a
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: Nelson or Nobody spot, right like, either Nelson's gonna go
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: up and catch us, make a great catch along the sideline,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: or it's going to be incomplete and there's there's no
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: in between. Then I think that there's a chance that
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: at the worst it sails out of bounds and they
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: kicked the field goal from a shorter distance, and at
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: the best, Nelson Agiler does what against did against Pittsburgh
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: and losses the guy and catches a touchdown. So there's
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: those types of throws on the tape now that he's
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: not pulling the trigger on because I think those interceptions
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: happened earlier in the season when he was trying to
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: make those types of throws, and in his mind, he's thinking,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Nick folks nails like, we're forty four yard
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: field goal from this spot, and I agree with Paul
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: that he should have taken in the wind into account,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: but in his he's saying, anything inside forty five Nick
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: is putting through. So I'm just gonna take a sack
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna kick the field goal and get these
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: three points. Now, knowing the situation in the game and
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: the conditions of the weather and all that kind of stuff, like,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe that should have been different. But I
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: think a quarterback with more confidence, in a quarterback that
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: isn't so concerned about turnovers, probably dots that throwing Nelson
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: Agilor and we're talking about something totally different. And I
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: just bring it up because I feel like there's been
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of criticism of why the wholesale changes, and
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: I think that the thought process was we need to
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: find a way to be more dangerous. Yeah, And I
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: think this was a glimpse of a lot of things
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: going on. Right. This is why a lot of people
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: look at that game and said, oh I saw progress,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: because it looked different. Yeah, Like it wasn't one hundred
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: and forty yards passing, it wasn't like fifty eight percent completions,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: it wasn't three turnovers, but good plays like Baltimore. But
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: the result is you didn't score, just like you didn't
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: score against Indianapolis the previous week, and you didn't score
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: against the Jets the week before that. Yeah, So yeah,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: it might look different, but I think this is what
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: the coaches were thinking when they decided to try to
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: make some changes to the office. Now it hasn't worked.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying like, see, it wasn't right
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: earlier in the year, like Evan said, when turning the
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: ball over at an alarming rate. Yeah, well you don't
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: want that either, Like my hope is that you saw
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: a game kind of like old Mac last week, Like,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: you know, can he re establish that confidence and get
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: him back to feeling all right, I know what I'm doing.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: And that's why I go back to, like, do we
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: really need to tear up the whole offense? Like could
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: we have not kind of stuck with similar kind of
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: stuff that we were we saw in the last game
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: of what he does well and say, we know we
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: have to get more explosive, but that doesn't mean we
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: can just rip everything up and start from scratch and
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: try to figure out again what he's actually good at.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: Like I just wonder if they didn't bring enough from
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: what they were successful with last year into this kind
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: of new plan and they say, nope, we're starting that's
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: fair and build off of these, you know, these wrinkles
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: that I think that they you know, they got some
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: chunk plays, build off of that finds, you know, you
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: find two or three other things that you can have
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: success with. Now you have opponents in the last five
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: or six weeks saying we got to account for this, this,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: and this that we didn't have to account for last
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: year or earlier this year because they having success with it. No,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: no defense wants to give up thirty yard plays. And
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean they had, like Jets defense is
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: designed to do the axact opposite, and they had and
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: they had like they had like a third of the
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: yards on four plays the other day, like they had
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: I think twenty six, twenty two, thirty and twenty four
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: something like they had like one hundred yards on four plays. Yeah,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: it's frustrating because that that throw to Agle or like
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: early season, Mac pulls the trigger like he rips it
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: and as it completed, as it intercepted, like that was
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: the fifty fifty element of what was going on in
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: the first three weeks of the season. But I really
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: believe that early season Mac rips that throw. What was
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: the what was the hundred one you said he missed? Yeah,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: so there was one. Two Hunter Henry James Ferrins does
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: get beat very very quickly by by Quinnin Williams. So
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, but with Hunter Henry that
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: the route combination worked right, Like they run acrosser with
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: john it's twelve personnel and they have the two tight
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: ends together on the same side of the formation and
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: Johnny one runs one way Ramandre runs into the flat
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: to kind of stretch that that zone underneath, and Hunter
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: Henry is just gonna like curl it up in between
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: the two zones and he's there. And if Mac throws
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: it with a little bit of anticipation and trust that
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry is just going to come out of that
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: route and curl up and make that catch, the play
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: should have worked. Now. I will allow for the fact
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: that Quinn Williams might have batted the ball down into
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: Mac's face because he's right there already, or whatever the
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: case may be, but the throw was there for him
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: to make it. I thought he got a little bit
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: of happy feet there in the pocket. Now, I think
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: that overall, although I I'm nitpicking by putting two of
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: these sacks on Mac, if I'm being honest, it's probably
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: more like one and a half because I think that
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: that one quinnin was in the backfield awfully quickly. But
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: there's just no no trust, there's no anticipation to his
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: game right now where everything needs to be. It needs
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: to be open for him to want to make that throw,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: and if it's a little bit dicey, he's not throwing it.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: Opportunities to get right against Minnesota for Mac Jones, they're
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: allowing the second most passing yards in the league to
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: play action ten point two yards per attempt against play action.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: So this is a zone it's a zone coverage system.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: They runs a lot of zone. They're they're bad against
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: play action because they're a fast defense that wants to
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: fly around and if you can get them with misdirection
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, you can beat them. And the
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: other thing I would say, this is one of those
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: games from a passing game standpoint that you're in a
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: dome and I need to see some things from from
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: Mac in the passing game from this no excuses, Like
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: it's like when they go down Stevenson as a receiver
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: after what Paullard did, Yeah, you could do some of that.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: I mean it's like what they did, you know down
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: in Houston, Like I think Cam's like best passing game
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: was in like Seattle and Houston, like you know, and
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: the weather was nice in Seattle and then Houston. They're
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: playing in a dome and like you know, when you
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: play these games and domes, like you should be able
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: to throw the ball. This is not going to be
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: can't playing the wind on them? Having a bad passing day.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for us. The playbook
• 1:59:27
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• 1:59:29
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• 1:59:31
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• 1:59:36
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