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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Fan Reaction to Miles Bridges Trade · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 1: It's not a step back. It's basically just taking advantage
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Speaker 1: as far as where they think their roster is and
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Speaker 1: their roster they felt was not. You know, they weren't
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Speaker 1: going to run out a sixty win team with this
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Speaker 1: group based on what they saw in the second half
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Speaker 1: of the year. I would trust the front office. Every
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Speaker 1: move they made so far has turned out to be
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Speaker 1: really good. But as I said, the one thing you
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Speaker 1: never want to be is just stuck. You don't want
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Speaker 1: to be stuck with your roster. You want to have
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Speaker 1: the maximum flexibility that you potentially could have.
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Speaker 2: That is Bobby Martz giving the Hornets praise yet again.
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Speaker 2: Jeff Peterson a company some praise yet again for what
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Speaker 2: they have done when it comes to a trade, this
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Speaker 2: time it is Miles Bridges four. Let's see here, Miles
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Speaker 2: Bridges a first in twenty twenty nine, a second in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven for Grayson Allen Royce O'Neil, and the
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Speaker 2: biggest asset of this of this trade for them is
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Speaker 2: a second unprotected pick in twenty thirty three. They acquired
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Speaker 2: one in the LaMelo trade as well. So there's a
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Speaker 2: lot to discuss here. Bone there is, and there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of texts that have come in over the first
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Speaker 2: hour plus where it seems like a lot of fans
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Speaker 2: have just picked up the anger from last week post
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Speaker 2: LaMelo trade and carried it through here.
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Speaker 3: They were never going to bring Bridges back, and then
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Speaker 3: we had to report yesterday Mac and there was a
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Speaker 3: million things going on yesterday. I think it was a
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Speaker 3: Phoenix base radio personality that said this was not a
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Speaker 3: bring Miles into Phoenix and then have them for one year.
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Speaker 3: They planned to re sign Miles for maybe three years,
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Speaker 3: eighty million that territory.
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Speaker 2: So were you.
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Speaker 3: Willing to do that? Hornets fans? Were you willing to
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Speaker 3: bring a guy back for huge money?
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Speaker 2: That?
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Speaker 3: What was his role? Because Nos reads the four Steinbach
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Speaker 3: is a drafted four. You've got Miller and Conn that
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Speaker 3: roamed the wings. Where was Miles fitting in to this core?
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Speaker 3: Moosa on the texta line says, how do you get
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Speaker 3: rid of to your top four players? A Lamello was
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Speaker 3: a top four player, no doubt Tyles bridge is going forward.
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Speaker 3: Was not as valuable this team as Kobe White, as Con,
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Speaker 3: as Miller, as Nos reed, and as Musa. He just
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Speaker 3: did not fit in anymore, and his contract expired. That's
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Speaker 3: a great job by Jeff Peterson to get some players
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Speaker 3: for the now role, guys like Grayson all I know
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Speaker 3: people will make a lot of jokes about it because yeah,
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Speaker 3: you know, you know, the heels coming on people's legs
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Speaker 3: ran into his a lot. But he's been a very
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Speaker 3: productive NBA player, a pretty weethol shooter. And then Royce
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Speaker 3: O'Neil is a better version of Josh Green. So you've
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Speaker 3: built for the future, and you've also added, if they
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Speaker 3: stay here, some pretty good bench players at Allen and
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Speaker 3: Royce O'Neil. Yeah, I'm going over with that either here.
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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about that because I like both those guys.
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Speaker 2: I like those guys as bench guys. Guys that have
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Speaker 2: played in playoff series, bring a little bit of playoff experience.
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Speaker 2: And the number one thing is they both can shoot
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Speaker 2: the basketball. And this team, clearly they brought in Anderson,
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Speaker 2: this team clearly bone wants shooters. They want shooters. Nas
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Speaker 2: Reed stretches the floor unlike Bridges. Bridges had one good
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Speaker 2: three point shooting year. It was the aberration. He played seven,
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Speaker 2: would have played eight if it wasn't for the year
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Speaker 2: he missed because of you know the domestic violence situation,
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Speaker 2: and you talk about Bone as he a top four
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Speaker 2: Hornets player. This isn't just me saying this. The Ringers
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Speaker 2: top one hundred ranking says this too. We had five
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Speaker 2: players last year during the second half of the season
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Speaker 2: that were consistently in the top one one hundred of
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Speaker 2: the Ringers rankings, and they were Ball, Miller, con Musa,
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Speaker 2: and Kobe White. All five of those players are better
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Speaker 2: and more important than Miles Bridges. Miles Bridges' athleticism had declined,
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Speaker 2: his finishing at the rim had declined. He was never
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Speaker 2: a consistent outside shooter. How many times did he fall
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Speaker 2: asleep off ball defense. I'm not saying Bone that there
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Speaker 2: wasn't a fighter in him, that there wasn't a leader
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Speaker 2: in him, that the guys didn't look at him as
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Speaker 2: a leader. But like we have been saying, like they have,
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Speaker 2: they have been attempting to trade him for a while now.
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Speaker 2: They flirted with Phoenix among other teams about it. They
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Speaker 2: were not going to bring him back next offseason. They
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Speaker 2: didn't want to let him leave for nothing, though, so
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Speaker 2: they got They end up making this trade. Now, am
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Speaker 2: I surprise? Bone? We had to give up the first
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Speaker 2: round pick in this trade. I am this is a
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Speaker 2: you know, it's a rare moment where we had to
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Speaker 2: give away a first round asset. But if you read
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Speaker 2: more about that trade, Bone, that's a pick that actually
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Speaker 2: Phoenix gave to us. I think in the Mark Williams deal,
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Speaker 2: we're just sending it back to him and it's one
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Speaker 2: of those bone where it's the best they did send
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Speaker 2: Mark Williams back, though it's one of those picks, thankfully,
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Speaker 2: one of those picks that is like the second worst
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Speaker 2: out of four teams. It's one of those deals it's
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Speaker 2: not seen as near as valuable. And I'm not just
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Speaker 2: saying this. It's all the NBA media gurus you know
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Speaker 2: that study this. Matter of fact, we can play the
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Speaker 2: Sam Quinn clip in a second where he gives this
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Speaker 2: trade at a plus from CBS. But the twenty thirty
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Speaker 2: three unprotected pick is the gold one considered way better,
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Speaker 2: even though it's four years later than the twenty twenty nine.
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Speaker 2: And I think it goes back to what you said
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Speaker 2: Bone in the first hour of the show. We are
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Speaker 2: accumulating these things not to put a roster together that
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Speaker 2: is the best sixth graders in America. Currently, we're accumulating
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Speaker 2: these things because if we go as deepest twenty thirty three,
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Speaker 2: then we can get these picks to be unprotected, and
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Speaker 2: unprotect it means they're seen as golden assets. I fully
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Speaker 2: expect all these assets boned to be used to acquire,
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Speaker 2: you know, studs also at some point in time if
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Speaker 2: it continues to go the right way for Conen Miller
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Speaker 2: and they're a part of this for a long time.
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Speaker 2: Matt CON's only twenty one, how old's Miller now, So
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Speaker 2: what is their age going to be in twenty thirty three,
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Speaker 2: So either they're going to have pieces assets to add
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Speaker 2: on to what those guys are doing in trade before that,
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Speaker 2: or they add young players to what we think will
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Speaker 2: be a good core. So it all works out.
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Speaker 3: By the way, you mentioned the Ringers top one hundred,
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Speaker 3: wanted to point out nos Reid is seventy seven on
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Speaker 3: that list right now.
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Speaker 2: Oh so then we had six guys then that were
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Speaker 2: on there and Bridges wasn't one of them. Yeah, we
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Speaker 2: upgrade a Bridges position and it lists has two of
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Speaker 2: his best attributes. Now think of Miles Bridges and the
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Speaker 2: way you described him in the first hour, Nos Reed, finisher, spacer. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that is that how we describe Miles Bridges in this offense.
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Speaker 2: Finish surely not spencer. He would attack the rim, don't
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Speaker 2: get me. You see at the rim was lost or
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Speaker 2: has dropped, and his athleticism clearly had dropped as well.
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Speaker 2: Also six two sixty four, we got a Haws in
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Speaker 2: there now. Also Yeah, and like you said, just a
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Speaker 2: cult figure in Minnesota. I mean people are getting tattoos
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Speaker 2: at this, you know what I mean, six man player,
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Speaker 2: six Man of the Year. I think he's ready to start.
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Speaker 2: I saw somebody sharing his numbers bone when he does start,
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Speaker 2: and he was putting up regularly about seventeen and eight
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Speaker 2: when a starter. You know, I'm not saying his defense
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Speaker 2: is the greatest in the world, but floor spacing and
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Speaker 2: shooting like this team is not letting up on threes
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Speaker 2: anytime soon. They've added Anderson nas Reed, Uh, Grayson, Allen,
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Speaker 2: Royce O'Neil, they all can shoot it. We're gonna keep
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Speaker 2: chucking threes. We're gonna have more spacing of the floor
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Speaker 2: now that we have.
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Speaker 3: Live volume shooting two from Allen and O'Neil, which Charles
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Speaker 3: Lee kind of likes that where he comes from. We
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Speaker 3: liked a lot of threes.
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Speaker 2: We have lost bone Lamello's ability to create off the bounce,
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Speaker 2: which when he puts it on the floor draws attention.
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Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden the shots get open on
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Speaker 2: the outside. You know, Con and Miller are gonna have
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Speaker 2: to step up their game in terms of creating grace.
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Speaker 2: Allen can drive it a bit. I think it was
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Speaker 2: Richie Randall from Buzzby said he was averaging ten plus
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Speaker 2: drives a game last season, so he'll still put it
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Speaker 2: on the floor. Most assist he's ever had in like
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Speaker 2: three point eight, and again he got HERR.
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Speaker 3: Last year he was averaging. He got a pretty healthy
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Speaker 3: deal in Phoenix. I think he averaged mag top of
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Speaker 3: my head with it sixteen points per game the previous
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Speaker 3: year in a role more of a definitive role. Last
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Speaker 3: year we got injured and wasn't the same. By the way,
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Speaker 3: if if Reid wins a championship, I will get a
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Speaker 3: nasty tattoo magg right there in my arm, nasty right there, baby,
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Speaker 3: nasty like nasty, nasty right down.
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Speaker 2: Mark it down.
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Speaker 3: If the Hornets do what win a title with him,
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Speaker 3: that'd be getting t right there, baby, We'll win a
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Speaker 3: title when the sixth graders bone or in their third
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Speaker 3: year in the league. All right, so twenty thirty six,
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Speaker 3: you go to be getting that tattoo at some point.
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Speaker 3: So anyway, what do you guys think about this Bridge's trade?
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Speaker 3: Does what we're saying makes sense to you?
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Speaker 2: Again? It was another deal bone where the graders absolutely
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Speaker 2: loved what the Hornets did, and this one I agree
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Speaker 2: with the graders on the mellow one. You know, it's
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Speaker 2: still one that I'm working through. But it's obvious that
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Speaker 2: Jeff Peterson has a vision. The owners, like you say,
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Speaker 2: Bone Schlocking, believes in letting him execute his vision. But
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Speaker 2: look what the national media said about this trade. Charlotte
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Speaker 2: got a B plus, the Sun's got a D plus
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Speaker 2: on ESPN, the athletic B plus for Charlotte, B minus
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Speaker 2: for the Suns, clutch points B for Charlotte or no,
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Speaker 2: was it a A for Charlotte, B plus for the Suns
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Speaker 2: and then CB sports A for the Hornets D for
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Speaker 2: the Suns. So it was another trade where those that
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Speaker 2: cover the game aren't emotionally attached. Like I just saw
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Speaker 2: somebody that says Adam says, I'm gonna miss mellow to
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Speaker 2: Miles Lobs. Yeah, I mean, I think I'm not gonna
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Speaker 2: say bone that there weren't some really cool memories that
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Speaker 2: highlights those boys produced together. Once they traded Lamello, I
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Speaker 2: think you could easily see, Oh, they're definitely trading bridges,
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Speaker 2: changing a.
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Speaker 3: Changing of the times Miles simply, I just both in
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Speaker 3: game and just where they're headed. And then it's also
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Speaker 3: the contract stuff that plays into this too. Miles is
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Speaker 3: not signed past this year, and when you've added forwards
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Speaker 3: that are gonna play over him, and where where was
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Speaker 3: he fitting into this? It's just sometimes it's time, and
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Speaker 3: that was the case for it was just time to
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Speaker 3: move on. And I'm saying, you know what, people that
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Speaker 3: are mad, I'm actually it's kind of surprising how long Miles,
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Speaker 3: considering all that went into everything here, both in team
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Speaker 3: and in his personal life, Miles lasted a long ass
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Speaker 3: time here.
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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, he did, and this regime
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Speaker 2: gave him that three year deal. But one of the things,
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Speaker 2: like Walker said, like Walker Male said all along, that
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Speaker 2: was a very tradable deal at some point, and they
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Speaker 2: have tried to trade him now for a couple of
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Speaker 2: years Phoenix had sniffed around him like it just it
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Speaker 2: to me the Bridge's parting was inevitable. They went out
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Speaker 2: and got something for him, and it's a pretty damn
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Speaker 2: good asset. Matter of fact, listen to Sam Quinn from
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Speaker 2: CBS Bone he gives them the A plus on this trade.
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Speaker 2: He is a Jeff Peterson believer, as so many in
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Speaker 2: the national media are. Listen to him talk about the
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Speaker 2: Hornets winning this trade.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is an a for the Charlotte Hornets. So
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Speaker 4: two years ago, at the twenty twenty five trade deadline,
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Speaker 4: the Suns traded their twenty thirty one first round pick
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Speaker 4: for a bunch of bad first round picks, with the
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Speaker 4: idea basically being, we are going to turn one good
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Speaker 4: asset into several worse ones.
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Speaker 2: So we can make several trades.
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Speaker 4: Immediately after that trade, Justin Zanik of the Jazz came
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Speaker 4: out and said, yeah, we got the best asset on
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Speaker 4: the trade market this deadline. That's sort of how I
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Speaker 4: feel right now. I know that twenty thirty three first
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Speaker 4: round pick is seven years in the future, it's hard
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Speaker 4: to really know what it's gonna be worth. That is
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Speaker 4: one of the most valuable draft picks out there in
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Speaker 4: the entire NBA. Because the Sons have none of their
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Speaker 4: own first round picks between now and then, how are
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Speaker 4: they going to rebuild? Devin Booker is either going to
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Speaker 4: be retired or at the very end of his career
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Speaker 4: at that point, They're gonna have no method to build
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Speaker 4: back up. And something that I keep hammering home here
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Speaker 4: on HQ and everywhere else that I talk, we don't
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Speaker 4: know what the lottery rules are going to be after
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty nine. For all we know, the rules are
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Speaker 4: going to change in a way that makes that pick
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Speaker 4: even more valuable when you look at these picks in
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Speaker 4: the twenty thirties, just as a point of comparison, when
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Speaker 4: Minnesota traded Theirs, they got LaMelo Ball, one of the
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Speaker 4: most valuable, one of the most talented players in the
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Speaker 4: entire NBA. The Phoenix Suns went from being a play
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Speaker 4: in team to being a play in team, and they
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Speaker 4: gave up such a valuable draft ass that.
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Speaker 2: So there you go. It's all about to Sam Quinn
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Speaker 2: in many that twenty thirty three unprotected pick, where he
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Speaker 2: is saying the Suns have no draft picks really before
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Speaker 2: then to improve themselves. Booker will be aging. So again,
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Speaker 2: it's not I don't think Bowe when he says all
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Speaker 2: that it's about man Hornets just hold on for seven years.
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Speaker 2: They ain't gonna have a hell of a high pick. No,
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Speaker 2: it's the other gms around the league. When you are
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Speaker 2: trying to make a big move and you throw that
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Speaker 2: one in, it's them thinking what Sam Quinn just thought, Yeah, oh,
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Speaker 2: this Phoenix team's not gonna be good in twenty thirty three.
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Speaker 2: That's gonna be a hell of a pick, and then
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Speaker 2: you use it to deal. We have twelve first round picks.
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Speaker 2: That number stayed the same because we gave one away
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Speaker 2: that doesn't appear to be near as good as this one.
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Speaker 2: We acquired this one in twenty thirty three. We have
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Speaker 2: twelve first round picks in the next seven years, second
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Speaker 2: most in the league. This texter says, we got cap room,
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Speaker 2: We've got the forty plus million dollar trade exception. They're
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Speaker 2: not done. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think Jeff
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Speaker 2: Peterson has done this offseason, and he's certainly not done
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Speaker 2: bone however long you know, until he makes a really
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Speaker 2: big move, you know, cover long.
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Speaker 3: It takes a couple of text points here Max, Someone asked,
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Speaker 3: did they get Grayson Allen to fight the Pistons? Is
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Speaker 3: this is either Duncan Robinson stopper Grayson. Also, someone else asks, Fiddy,
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Speaker 3: what are your plans for twenty thirty three? Is that
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Speaker 3: what your strequill in?
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Speaker 2: Not looking likely? Boy, cold cold.
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Speaker 5: If we get to twenty thirty three, that means the
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Speaker 5: streak would have ran to eleven years, and then you.
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Speaker 2: And Flounder will just get married. You'll run off to
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Speaker 2: Vegas and it'll lope.
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Speaker 3: Mac I alluded to it the other day, but I
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Speaker 3: think it fits in again here in the summer of
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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six, so we're going back thirty years on
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Speaker 3: this point. Here, the Hornets traded a fan favorite and
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Speaker 3: Larry Johnson. That sort of signaled the changing of the guard.
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Speaker 3: Zoe was gone, lj was gone, and they brought in
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Speaker 3: a former six Man of the Year award winner and
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Speaker 3: Anthony Mason. And guess what happened. Mace comes in as
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Speaker 3: a starter, goes sixteen eleven and five, has a great
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Speaker 3: three year run as a Hornet. Well happened to Larry Johnson,
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Speaker 3: Mack He went to the Knicks and yeah they won.
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Speaker 3: Larry Johnson with that back injury was never quite the same.
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Speaker 3: You can make the case that Anthony Mason was more
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Speaker 3: productive as a hornet than Larry Johnson was as a
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Speaker 3: New York Knick. So ultimately, you never know. When there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of nas read, I think comparisons with when
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Speaker 3: they got Anthony Mason there thirty years ago.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been here, you've been going with that one.
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Speaker 2: So that's definitely an interesting one. Nazria is not going
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Speaker 2: to like handle the rock and distribute and dish assist
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Speaker 2: the way and they so.
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Speaker 3: But you can see the numbers for nas Red as
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Speaker 3: a bench guy are productive. But let's thick about what
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Speaker 3: he might do as a full time starter, which we
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Speaker 3: haven't seen a lot of. Bubba, those numbers are going
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Speaker 3: to be I think pretty good man. Bub And Charlotte says,
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Speaker 3: I don't think.
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Speaker 2: I don't think Jeff Well what Dwight Hapten, dhit Hayton
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Speaker 2: said he's gonna be an all star in Charlotte. You
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Speaker 2: see that one. I missed that one. They tweeted that out.
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Speaker 2: Bub And Charlotte says, I don't think Jeff Peters is
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Speaker 2: going to be making these picks awesome in theory, but
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Speaker 2: you need to to keep your job in the meantime. Yes,
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Speaker 2: Well to the whole point about twenty thirty three, I
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Speaker 2: don't think any GM Bone is planning on making picks
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Speaker 2: in seven years. I don't think he's acquiring these picks
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Speaker 2: and saying I'll be here definitely in seven years. What
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Speaker 2: he is going to do, though, Bone, is he is
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Speaker 2: going to use them probably in the next what two years, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: in order to just give a buttload of first to
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Speaker 2: somebody and acquire a big time player. That that's you
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Speaker 2: know what I mean? And you might and you might
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Speaker 2: have enough to acquire multiple big time players. Fitty, what
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Speaker 2: are you challenging over there? What's wrong? I think it's
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Speaker 2: important to bring this up to you.
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Speaker 5: Brought this up during the break Mac. He's making all
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Speaker 5: these moves with the backing of ownership. One percent ownership,
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Speaker 5: believes in whatever the vision is that he is selling
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Speaker 5: them because when they first showed up on the scene,
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Speaker 5: what was their motive, what was their misshit.
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Speaker 2: Whole Mitch to trade Rogier or trade PJ. That was
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Speaker 2: before Peterson got here.
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Speaker 5: So these fans might think that he might not be
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Speaker 5: here in twenty thirty three, to make these.
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Speaker 2: Picks and maybe he won't, maybe he won't be.
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Speaker 5: But at some point Jeff Peterson will cash in on
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Speaker 5: all these assets that he has accumulated. Yeah, because he's
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Speaker 5: got the backing of ownership.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. That No, that's true. And you know, I would
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Speaker 2: go as far as to say, because they had this
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Speaker 2: vision of acquiring assets before Peterson got here, I would
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Speaker 2: bone go as far to say, it's a great point
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Speaker 2: there by the fit Daddy. I would go as far
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Speaker 2: to say, bone when they are when they were hiring
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Speaker 2: a GM, they were looking for someone who had this
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Speaker 2: sort of vision, right, Yeah. They didn't want to hire
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Speaker 2: someone who wanted to come in with a quick fix,
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Speaker 2: So I would so, yes, I think to Fitty's point, Bone,
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Speaker 2: Jeff Peterson's got a pretty darn long rope here. He does.
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Speaker 3: He has the vision, and the ownership allows him to
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Speaker 3: have that vision. They get him room to operate. They're
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Speaker 3: all we talk about alignment with the panthers, and that's
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Speaker 3: the word they use a lot. You could clearly see
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Speaker 3: there's alignment here with the Bobcats and hornet tears. There
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Speaker 3: was never alignment because they would all do the work
18:01
Speaker 3: and MJ would come in and say let's try this,
18:02
Speaker 3: let's do this, and who's going to argue with him?
18:04
Speaker 3: So they Right now, it feels like this ownership group
18:07
Speaker 3: needs a watter of credit too for allowing the chef
18:10
Speaker 3: to put the meal on the day.
18:12
Speaker 2: Have a plan. They have a plan, and listen, I
18:14
Speaker 2: get why it's not popular with people right now, the
18:16
Speaker 2: little mellow part of it. I don't understand why everybody's
18:20
Speaker 2: shocked and heartbroken over the Bridges thing, But we'll talk
18:22
Speaker 2: about that as the show goes on. Mac.
18:24
Speaker 3: We haven't talked much college football here recently because the
18:27
Speaker 3: Hornets have taken over our wives. For a few minutes,
18:29
Speaker 3: we're going to talk to Bill Bender of the Sporting News.
18:32
Speaker 3: Their preview magazine is out for the first time in
18:35
Speaker 3: fourteen years on newsstands. But where do they have Mackers
18:40
Speaker 3: the game Cocks ranked in the SEC? Oh boy, you'll
18:43
Speaker 3: find out.
18:44
Speaker 2: Next. Sports Radio ninety two to seven, Sports Radio ninety
19:15
Speaker 2: two to seven, wfn Z, Mack and Bone hanging out
19:18
Speaker 2: with you on a Monday. I hope everybody had a
19:20
Speaker 2: great weekend. Jeff Peterson was working this weekend. Miles Bridge's
19:24
Speaker 2: trade and it's getting mixed reviews. It does seem like
19:28
Speaker 2: some people Bone as like, hey, I could see the
19:30
Speaker 2: vision here, there's a plan. I could see the vision there.
19:32
Speaker 2: And there are other people Bone that will hit us
19:34
Speaker 2: with this sort of thing. Stop with the hornets talking points.
19:38
Speaker 2: Already clearly they emailed these to you, and now all
19:42
Speaker 2: of a sudden you're carrying their water. This team is
19:45
Speaker 2: gonna be a train wreck next season. Yeah, because it's
19:48
Speaker 2: really a train wreck. Really when you hear that Phoenix
19:52
Speaker 2: may give pending free agent Miles Bridges three years, eighty
19:55
Speaker 2: million dollars, y'all wanted that back here with no defined role.
20:00
Speaker 2: He's gonna be that to a team what he was
20:02
Speaker 2: never gonna be back your guys, he was never going
20:04
Speaker 2: to be back here. So the point he was informed
20:07
Speaker 2: only just let him walk in free agency with three
20:09
Speaker 2: words fringe core player Stephen and Waxhall, I said, stands
20:16
Speaker 2: Curvage Guardblyir, Fridge Guardblyir. The way the roster is constructed,
20:20
Speaker 2: they are worse than they were last week. I'm waiting
20:23
Speaker 2: on another move. Hopefully it's coming. But don't shawl like
20:26
Speaker 2: it's not about Bone. How good they are now, how
20:30
Speaker 2: good they are this season even and I would like,
20:32
Speaker 2: there are some people saying this is the tank is
20:34
Speaker 2: on or something. This dude said Peterson driving the tank.
20:38
Speaker 2: This is not a like, look at the team that
20:40
Speaker 2: they have. This team. To me, Bone, this could still be,
20:43
Speaker 2: you know, a team playing area honestly, absolutely, and then
20:47
Speaker 2: we don't know what he's gonna add. I'd love to
20:48
Speaker 2: see Mitchell Robinson ad but we'll talk about this stuff.
20:50
Speaker 2: But anyway, I just Kobe White still pretty good. Guys.
20:52
Speaker 2: What's not for him either in the toll equation. I
20:55
Speaker 2: don't get the I don't get the negativity after the
20:58
Speaker 2: Bridge's trade the little mellow one get. But let's give
21:02
Speaker 2: it a little break. There's a lot of Jalen Brown
21:04
Speaker 2: coveting on the text line too, and we'll deal with
21:06
Speaker 2: that coming up in the near future in seventeen minutes
21:09
Speaker 2: at seven forty five. But let's talk a little college
21:11
Speaker 2: football's everybody settle down now, Bone, Let's let's preview the
21:15
Speaker 2: college football season with Bill Bender from The Sporting News.
21:19
Speaker 2: The Sporting News, after over a decade, right here, Way
21:23
Speaker 2: Bone is back in the printed preseason magazine business, and
21:27
Speaker 2: Bill Bender is here to celebrate that with us. Pick
21:30
Speaker 2: it up. By the way, wherever you get your magazines,
21:32
Speaker 2: Bill Bender, Sporting News is with us. Hey, Bill, what's
21:34
Speaker 2: going on? How's your summer going? Man? Bill? What's happening?
21:41
Speaker 2: How you doing? All right?
21:46
Speaker 3: There?
21:46
Speaker 2: That was a noise bone that I have never heard before.
21:48
Speaker 2: It's not like something just clumped. I get the feeling
21:52
Speaker 2: that noise is not what we were looking for when
21:54
Speaker 2: Finny try to bunch them up on the phone lines.
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Speaker 3: All right, I guess I'm gonna have the magazine page one.
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Speaker 3: You start reading, you're just gonna read. I will not
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Speaker 3: read the Duke Carolina portion of this out to you
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Speaker 3: out wow yet? Well yeah, not a good not a good,
22:07
Speaker 3: not a good thing here.
22:08
Speaker 2: I did say to people that you know, there's heightened
22:11
Speaker 2: you know, fire and passionate about this Hornets right now,
22:14
Speaker 2: and some of it is negative. I said, everybody's going
22:17
Speaker 2: to get to relax now. Uh, when we start telling
22:19
Speaker 2: you where some of the local teams rank and their
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Speaker 2: conferences in this magazine, it might not relax you though. Yeah.
22:26
Speaker 3: I bought this to check out my team's back and
22:28
Speaker 3: I don't really know what's going on here with some
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Speaker 3: of these not not.
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Speaker 2: Bill back there? All right? Do we got them? O?
22:33
Speaker 2: Let's see if this works. Bill Bender, what's going on?
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Speaker 6: Man?
22:35
Speaker 2: How you doing?
22:36
Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going?
22:37
Speaker 2: How are you guys? There we go? Thank you guys.
22:39
Speaker 2: We got them. I thought we perhaps didn't pay the
22:41
Speaker 2: bill on the phone. Hey, we're celebrating the fact Sporting
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Speaker 2: News has the Preview mag back it. When I was younger,
22:49
Speaker 2: it was all it was my go to, you know,
22:51
Speaker 2: preview mag. I'm not just saying that because Bill Bender.
22:54
Speaker 2: The Sporting News is with us, So I think that's
22:56
Speaker 2: definitely cool. And I think a lot of fans that's
22:58
Speaker 2: what they do this time of year, head to the
23:00
Speaker 2: beach and take football magazines with them. So Sporting News
23:03
Speaker 2: is back out there. Let's talk some Let's talk about
23:06
Speaker 2: some college football. Bone had mentioned checking out where some
23:11
Speaker 2: of his uh favorite teams are and how low they
23:14
Speaker 2: might be in their giving conferences. One that sticks out
23:17
Speaker 2: to me. And listen, it's a bear of a conference.
23:20
Speaker 2: But the Sporting News. I know you're not the sole
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Speaker 2: one involved in this, but the Sporting News has South
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Speaker 2: Carolina at twelfth. What's what's up with? What's up with
23:31
Speaker 2: that ranking? He dropped again? Of that noise? Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: feared that noise. I noise sounds like my old car
23:40
Speaker 2: when the engine fell out. It sounds kind of like
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Speaker 2: that old I.
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Speaker 3: Gotta tell you, Mack, you only have and you're in
23:46
Speaker 3: your You're aging gracefully, but you only have so many
23:49
Speaker 3: questions left in the tag gear. You can't keep it
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Speaker 3: repeating yourself.
23:51
Speaker 2: Over and over again. I h're a limit here. I
23:54
Speaker 2: try to talk through that noise, hoping if I just
23:56
Speaker 2: keep talking, he'll still be there. But I had a
23:58
Speaker 2: bad feeling. That noise sounds like the price is right
24:02
Speaker 2: boom boom boom when someone would lose bone, they lose
24:04
Speaker 2: all their money up prices. Yeah, bo boom. But it started.
24:07
Speaker 2: It sounds like the start of that sound effect.
24:09
Speaker 3: Fitty's holding strong right now, but I have a feeling
24:11
Speaker 3: if we clank one more time, Fitty.
24:14
Speaker 2: Could ring to be a meltdown. He could have got
24:16
Speaker 2: on a brandon Ie you type, tie rate the bone.
24:19
Speaker 2: If if this phone line let's just down a third time,
24:22
Speaker 2: I believe in it right now, all right to your point,
24:24
Speaker 2: I've got to ask this question very quickly and see
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Speaker 2: if we can actually start an interviewing August. You can,
24:29
Speaker 2: all right, Bill Benders, Sporting News. We still got you.
24:33
Speaker 2: I'm here, all right, our phone line stinks. We're not
24:35
Speaker 2: mad at you. Our phone line apparently stinks. Okay, so
24:38
Speaker 2: South Carolina the store, the publication seems to have South
24:42
Speaker 2: Carolina at twelfth in the sec. Do you do you
24:45
Speaker 2: agree with that?
24:49
Speaker 6: All right?
24:49
Speaker 2: So I'm not that's not going well.
24:51
Speaker 1: Man.
24:52
Speaker 3: What happens there's that noise that I've never hated a
24:56
Speaker 3: noise more mack, do I just do you want to
24:58
Speaker 3: just read this thing to you?
25:00
Speaker 1: Oh?
25:00
Speaker 2: God? All right?
25:01
Speaker 3: So anyway, EPISODEA Golden Gophers pj F has been rowing
25:04
Speaker 3: the boat. Now we'll just tell the I'm sorry, I'm
25:06
Speaker 3: just stop there.
25:07
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out on a limbone and say there's
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Speaker 2: something wrong with our phone line and we may need
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Speaker 2: to address it.
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Speaker 3: Or Bill Bender, by the way, we adjusted about four
25:15
Speaker 3: different times and now it doesn't workcause the Hordees.
25:17
Speaker 2: Last week you kept rescheduling him. Yeah, and now he
25:21
Speaker 2: tries to do this at seven twenty five in the morning,
25:24
Speaker 2: and this is what happens. He's not gonna be happy
25:26
Speaker 2: with us at all. We got to make sure we
25:28
Speaker 2: apologize to Bill Bender. But anyway, let's just talk real
25:31
Speaker 2: quick about like the local team's angle of this. Since
25:35
Speaker 2: we can't get into with Bill, where does he rank
25:38
Speaker 2: some of these local teams? Because South Carolina twelfth in
25:40
Speaker 2: the SEC, I'm actually pretty bullish on South Carolina. That
25:44
Speaker 2: feels low man.
25:45
Speaker 3: I mean, if they finished twelfth in the SEC, that's
25:48
Speaker 3: that's good night for BHG done right. He can't survive that.
25:51
Speaker 3: I know the conf're gonna try to reschedule. Uh, Shane
25:53
Speaker 3: Beemer or Shane Shane Bender, Bill Beemer? Bill Bender here.
25:59
Speaker 2: Bill Bender has stelled it a hunts and off phone lines.
26:03
Speaker 2: All right, anyway, so let's talk about that South Carolina
26:05
Speaker 2: twelfth bone. I just I feel like a bounce back
26:09
Speaker 2: season is coming for this team. I think the back
26:13
Speaker 2: season is coming for Lenora's Sellers. The schedule seems to
26:16
Speaker 2: be a bit more doable too. It's rather backloaded.
26:20
Speaker 3: Obviously in the SEC, there's always going to be stretches
26:23
Speaker 3: of terror, but it feels like, for once, there's not
26:27
Speaker 3: a gautlet where you would say, oh, if they can
26:30
Speaker 3: go you know, two and three or three and four
26:34
Speaker 3: and manage it. It feels like they should get off
26:37
Speaker 3: to a start for once back where they can actually
26:39
Speaker 3: pile up some wins. Maybe four or five wins and
26:42
Speaker 3: go from there. For them, it's always can they get
26:45
Speaker 3: to six or seven and see where they go? I
26:46
Speaker 3: think this year eight is definitely possible. I think what
26:49
Speaker 3: Nora Sellers has gone from a college football darwing to
26:53
Speaker 3: maybe kind of forgotten about it a little bit too.
26:55
Speaker 3: Can I saw a quarterback ranking the other day. He
26:58
Speaker 3: wasn't even the top fifteen quarterbacks. The other day ranking
27:00
Speaker 3: that US all.
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Speaker 2: South Carolina went out their bone and addressed their despicable
27:04
Speaker 2: offensive line from last year that I think was the
27:06
Speaker 2: number one factor in Seller's disappointing season. And they went
27:09
Speaker 2: out there and got seven or eight dudes out there
27:13
Speaker 2: in the portal, including Peak from NC State. It sounds
27:16
Speaker 2: like I know he had the injury, but it sounds
27:17
Speaker 2: like he's gonna get healthy.
27:18
Speaker 3: If you want to test season, do you want to
27:20
Speaker 3: text any questions of Bill Bender.
27:21
Speaker 2: I'm with him right now on the phone. Know what
27:22
Speaker 2: you're trying to do, we'll try to do it like that.
27:25
Speaker 2: So South Carolina that seems low. And then you said
27:29
Speaker 2: Duke and UNC thirteen and fifteen the ACC that's not shocking.
27:35
Speaker 3: Where UNC has kind of been listed at times, I
27:39
Speaker 3: Duke get thirteen is the lowest that I've seen.
27:41
Speaker 2: That is surprise. Now they lost our crap ton as
27:44
Speaker 2: you well know, obviously Mensa and Barcade are the two
27:47
Speaker 2: headliners going to Miami. But they did lose a ton,
27:51
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. And I would expect to
27:53
Speaker 2: drop a step back from when they won the dang Conference,
27:58
Speaker 2: but thirteenth with the job, DZ to your to the
28:01
Speaker 2: point you've been making is, hey, don't look now, Meda
28:03
Speaker 2: has done a pretty damn good coaching job in two
28:05
Speaker 2: seasons North Carolina. I don't want to be like I
28:09
Speaker 2: know people say Max and Belichick, heyter Max hating on
28:12
Speaker 2: the tar heels. I just they got to show something
28:15
Speaker 2: to me man like. And by the way, I thought
28:18
Speaker 2: the high school recruiting was something that was a strong
28:22
Speaker 2: point for this Belichick Lombardi regime. I just read a
28:27
Speaker 2: piece in the Athletic about like the recruiting bone for
28:30
Speaker 2: the upcoming class, the first class they got good grades
28:33
Speaker 2: on or good ratings on because of just sheer volume. Right, Yeah, well,
28:38
Speaker 2: this this class, apparently, this high school recruiting class does
28:41
Speaker 2: not appear to be going great for UNC.
28:43
Speaker 4: No.
28:44
Speaker 3: And again, you know he they finished fifteenth. Belichick will
28:48
Speaker 3: not be back, either by choice or he'll just he'll
28:51
Speaker 3: just ride off into the sunset with Jordan on a horseback.
28:56
Speaker 2: And that doesn't seem far fetched to me. On a
28:59
Speaker 2: horseback them Finch fifteen. I want to talk about all
29:02
Speaker 2: that craziness.
29:03
Speaker 3: They've got NC State nine here right blow below Cow,
29:08
Speaker 3: which is interesting. Here's one thing. I brought this up
29:11
Speaker 3: when you were gone a week or so ago, Mackers.
29:16
Speaker 3: Last year, we didn't think anything of wake Forest entering
29:20
Speaker 3: the season, and Jake Dicker goes and has a great year,
29:23
Speaker 3: they win the Duke's Mayo Bowl, and this year there's
29:27
Speaker 3: still nothing really thought of wake Forest our twelfth in year.
29:30
Speaker 3: Do you think that we're making the same mistake again
29:33
Speaker 3: that we're sort of underrating wake Forest and what they
29:36
Speaker 3: can be Like many d as in year one under
29:38
Speaker 3: Duke they came back year two, we didn't think they
29:40
Speaker 3: could do something again that was special. Do you think
29:42
Speaker 3: a back that for all these teams that have problems,
29:45
Speaker 3: that wake Forest may actually be a team that's pretty
29:47
Speaker 3: good again. We could We'll see what they Go Lopez now.
29:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, go Lopez, But he is there with his O
29:53
Speaker 2: coordinator from South Alabama, so it'll be a scheme that's
29:55
Speaker 2: more friendly to him than Carolina did. But then again, Robbie,
30:00
Speaker 2: look what they got out of Robbie Ashford last year
30:02
Speaker 2: to year that point, they did lose it. They they
30:05
Speaker 2: did lose some real talent on defense. They lost some
30:07
Speaker 2: couple of guys to the portal for big money. So
30:12
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah I do. I could see
30:15
Speaker 2: them overachieving their expectations a bit. I definitely couldn't. They
30:20
Speaker 2: have student in the passed all the time with Grobe
30:23
Speaker 2: and Clauston.
30:24
Speaker 3: This is an interesting spot for Clemson now Entery twenty
30:27
Speaker 3: twenty six, they have them fifth in the ACC behind Miami, Willisville, SMU,
30:34
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech. If they finished fifth, how would Clemson fans
30:38
Speaker 3: feel about that? Because that's nowhere near where they used
30:41
Speaker 3: to mix. The fans going to go off, They're going
30:42
Speaker 3: to go off, and then what's going to freak out?
30:44
Speaker 3: Then what does that do for the future of dabbo.
30:46
Speaker 3: They finished fifth in the conference, finishing fifth in the
30:49
Speaker 3: nation for a while for them with unacceptable.
30:51
Speaker 2: I have to tell you this is not going to
30:53
Speaker 2: be a season of high expectations for teams at the Carolinas.
30:58
Speaker 2: It's really not. There's gonna be more talk bone about
31:01
Speaker 2: what you have been talking about during this segment. Does
31:05
Speaker 2: this coach stay? I fear we could do a lot
31:08
Speaker 2: of talk about that. Is this coach gonna be fired?
31:10
Speaker 2: And that's no damn fun at all.
31:12
Speaker 3: Best team entering the season. We actually had this conversation
31:15
Speaker 3: briefly the friday you were out. You know, NC State
31:19
Speaker 3: does bring back a legitimate, very good quarterback, mac is Ecu.
31:24
Speaker 3: The team that we would trust the most. They might be,
31:27
Speaker 3: but you either do either get to their total or
31:29
Speaker 3: exceed it. They might they might be.
31:31
Speaker 2: I love, I love what Harold's done there, but obviously,
31:34
Speaker 2: like everybody, they lost a ton too. They lost hous Er,
31:37
Speaker 2: a quarterback, A team that you said this I might
31:39
Speaker 2: have been off the ear, A team that is impossible
31:43
Speaker 2: to analyze it any way, shape or form. With app State,
31:45
Speaker 2: I have no idea how to even analyze what they have.
31:48
Speaker 2: I have no clue what app State is. Yeah, it's hard.
31:51
Speaker 2: It's hard to analyze a lot of this stuff nowadays.
31:54
Speaker 2: I mean, I sucked at trying to make pretty y'all
31:56
Speaker 2: know this. I mean times I hype up a local
31:59
Speaker 2: team that was due to all right, NC State ce
32:01
Speaker 2: NC State that year they made all the transfer portal editions.
32:04
Speaker 2: But like now, there's so much unknown now, like how
32:08
Speaker 2: that we had Chris Doring on from the SEC network. Right,
32:11
Speaker 2: great analyst knows the game and says, I can't really
32:14
Speaker 2: tell you who's gonna be good? You know, so how
32:16
Speaker 2: the hell is my I couldn't when you're supposed to
32:18
Speaker 2: be able to figure it out, I couldn't.
32:20
Speaker 3: By the well, he says, this segment's great. You should
32:22
Speaker 3: get ana. It's on to talk about these things. Rachel's
32:25
Speaker 3: got a theory for what happened. She thinks your new
32:27
Speaker 3: puppy Murphy is here and chewed the phone lines and
32:31
Speaker 3: that's what happened to the to the phones right there,
32:33
Speaker 3: he mat The other day he handed me the remote control,
32:36
Speaker 3: which is not a good sign that he had the
32:38
Speaker 3: remote control. He said, here you go, you have this.
32:40
Speaker 3: I know, why do you have that? Brought out brought
32:43
Speaker 3: out the wastebind from the bathroom, but just threw it
32:45
Speaker 3: on the ground.
32:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of these days he's going to hand your
32:47
Speaker 2: remote control through his backside. He's gonna choot the whole
32:50
Speaker 2: thing up. You will be waiting for it in the yard.
32:51
Speaker 2: He's gonna change the rope by squatting. Big Pain says
32:56
Speaker 2: that segment requires clean up on aisles four, five, and six.
33:00
Speaker 2: Yeah it was an idea, y'all, but you're the most
33:02
Speaker 2: patient audience in radio. Is our problem or Bill Bender's
33:07
Speaker 2: problem on this?
33:09
Speaker 5: I think it was a Bill Bender issue, but I
33:12
Speaker 5: have reached out to engineering.
33:14
Speaker 2: To try to get the issue resolved. All right, Fitty
33:17
Speaker 2: wants the ball bone, he wants to do an update,
33:19
Speaker 2: and who are we to stop him? What do you
33:20
Speaker 2: got over there? Fit? It's all right, A little hometown
33:26
Speaker 2: or a big old city.
33:28
Speaker 5: Might as well shared, might as well smile lives How
33:35
Speaker 5: all right, guys, This update is brought to you by
33:38
Speaker 5: H and S Roofing and Gutter Company. Something mac that
33:42
Speaker 5: we get excited to talk about is when the Yankees lose.
33:46
Speaker 5: And the Yankees I only lost once this weekend, not twice.
33:49
Speaker 2: This weekend.
33:51
Speaker 5: They lost three times over the Wartimes on their way
33:54
Speaker 5: to a four game sweep at the hands of the
33:57
Speaker 5: Boston Red Sox.
33:59
Speaker 2: Bone.
34:01
Speaker 5: How are you and Yankee Nation holding up after a
34:04
Speaker 5: rough stretch here for the Pinstripes.
34:06
Speaker 3: It's not a it's it's an interesting thing. Back that
34:08
Speaker 3: the Yankees lost four in a row to a team,
34:11
Speaker 3: and that team is now twelve and a half back
34:13
Speaker 3: of the Yankees. They got swept by a team that
34:16
Speaker 3: is twelve and a half. I'm sorry, eleven and a
34:18
Speaker 3: half behind them.
34:19
Speaker 2: Now they're making a move, baby, they were fifteen and
34:21
Speaker 2: a half when the series started.
34:22
Speaker 3: Fitty House thing, he's going for you over there, eighteen
34:24
Speaker 3: seventy eight, all over again. How's your burrow going over there?
34:26
Speaker 5: We're one and two?
34:29
Speaker 2: Fitty had nothing all this is a New York on
34:32
Speaker 2: w f A N. By the way, Philly's Fitty, give
34:34
Speaker 2: us something better than this damn New York baseball level.
34:36
Speaker 5: I was gonna talk about Wimbledon. You were you were
34:39
Speaker 5: gonna complain about Wimbledon.
34:41
Speaker 2: What else would you want me to talk about? Mac?
34:43
Speaker 2: How about this? You do the update? Did you want
34:46
Speaker 2: to complain about the update? I'll come create you an
34:48
Speaker 2: intro and then you can give an update. You could
34:51
Speaker 2: do the read, you could do it all. I talk
34:53
Speaker 2: so much I need to rest my voice for a minute.
34:55
Speaker 2: Bras are are still floundering. Here will be lost another series?
34:58
Speaker 2: How many we got They have lost straight back. The
35:01
Speaker 2: Phillies all last eleven of eighteen out of break or no,
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Speaker 2: it's eleven of fifteen.
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Speaker 3: Now the Braves of there, they're ten and fifteen in June.
35:10
Speaker 3: Since the Phillies hired Don Mattingly end of April, they
35:14
Speaker 3: are thirty eight and eighteen thirty eight in eighteen.
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Speaker 2: How about that job by Don Mattingly.
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Speaker 3: When we come back on the Mac and Bone radio program,
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Speaker 3: Fitty calls himself off there a little bit. We have
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Speaker 3: conflicting reports on the Hornets interest in Jayalen Brown. Would
35:29
Speaker 3: you want that to be the next Hornets move? That's
35:32
Speaker 3: another thing Fiddy will get mad about. Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 3: two seven WFNZ.
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Speaker 6: There's mixed feelings about him. When you talk to teams,
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Speaker 6: the analytics of Jalen Brown is not good. I'm more
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Speaker 6: of an eye test guy. There are some people out
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Speaker 6: there that look at that a little bit more deeper
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Speaker 6: than what the I test says. I had one not
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Speaker 6: an executive, but an analytics guy saying, way, yeah, we
36:24
Speaker 6: view him as like a like a seventh best player
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Speaker 6: on a team. I was like, holy crap.
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Speaker 2: Like get it.
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Speaker 6: There's a wolf for analytics and stuff. But well, I
36:33
Speaker 6: guess they call it. I joked, I guess we call
36:35
Speaker 6: that strategy now and we where So I was like,
36:42
Speaker 6: wait a minute, it's a little bit. That's a little
36:44
Speaker 6: bit of a stretch there.
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Speaker 2: So that went viral. That was Bobby Marks on NBA
36:52
Speaker 2: Radio making it clear though bone that he doesn't think this,
36:57
Speaker 2: but that there was one analytics person league that said
37:01
Speaker 2: they believe based on analytics, Jalen Brown should be regarded
37:04
Speaker 2: as a seventh best player on a team type player,
37:07
Speaker 2: which is absurd. He was an MVP last year, put
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Speaker 2: up like twenty eight six and five last season with
37:14
Speaker 2: Tatum out for much of the season, and the guy's
37:17
Speaker 2: a pretty damn good defensive wing as well. That led
37:20
Speaker 2: to Jalen Brown getting mad. Now, Jalen Brown being mad
37:24
Speaker 2: is not necessarily bona headline in and of itself. That
37:28
Speaker 2: man called that getting twitchy. He doesn't go the full
37:31
Speaker 2: eye yuk, all right, but that man is well voice
37:34
Speaker 2: his displeasure right see Stephen A. Smith and many other things.
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Speaker 2: So he then called out on social media Bobby Marx.
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Speaker 2: Bobby Marks had to say, this isn't what I think.
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Speaker 2: I was just explaining that there are some vastly different
37:48
Speaker 2: opinions about Jalen Brown, including this analytics burson, and.
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Speaker 3: Then it put Bobby Mark's full quote of that he
37:54
Speaker 3: was not saying that day he was, so they just
37:56
Speaker 3: put up that Bobby Mark send and all the trolls
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Speaker 3: went after Bob when he was not saying that. He
38:02
Speaker 3: was saying it's absurd that that dude would be seen
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Speaker 3: as the seventh best player on a team. So no,
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Speaker 3: Bobby Marks wouldn't saying that. He got told that by somebody.
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Speaker 2: Did you see how it ended with Bobby Marx trying
38:13
Speaker 2: to clear it up. It wasn't me, It was an
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Speaker 2: analytics guy, and Jalen Brown said, state your source. Then
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Speaker 2: Jalen Brown wants to know which analytics dorton to go after.
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Speaker 2: Why does Jalen Brown care about one analytics dort giving
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Speaker 2: a quote to Bobby Marks.
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Speaker 3: He's got a lot of time on his twitch streams.
38:28
Speaker 3: Did you see what Josh hart Max said about analytical
38:30
Speaker 3: people this weekend? It's just nerdy white guys that want
38:33
Speaker 3: to be part of the game, same as sports radio.
38:38
Speaker 2: A lot of nerdy white guys that couldn't.
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Speaker 3: Cut it in spots. I gotta tell me yap about it.
38:43
Speaker 3: I support Josh Hart. There is nothing worse than a
38:45
Speaker 3: nerdy white guy. That is exactly what this radio station
38:51
Speaker 3: has made up of many of us. But anyway, all right,
38:54
Speaker 3: so let's talk about the Jalen Brown thing here Bone,
38:57
Speaker 3: because a popular text to the show today is what
39:00
Speaker 3: the hell is is Jeff Peterson doing? Another popular text
39:05
Speaker 3: is if he can go get Jalen Brown now, then
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Speaker 3: this will all be worth it. Then I'll be back
39:12
Speaker 3: on board. What do you think?
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Speaker 2: There were a lot of reports this weekend Bone about
39:16
Speaker 2: the Hornets and Jalen Brown. It's and let me uh,
39:22
Speaker 2: the number one from Michael Scotta was kind of the
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Speaker 2: most popular one, That's what she said. Michael Scotto said
39:29
Speaker 2: that the Hornets and the Celtics had exploratory talks about
39:35
Speaker 2: a Brown deal Boston. In this deal, he says, one
39:38
Speaker 2: in nas reed to Boston. Charlotte and Boston exploratory talks
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Speaker 2: have cooled, according to Scotto. Mark Stein says Charlotte not
39:50
Speaker 2: actively pursuing Brown. But how does that jibe with Scotto? Well,
39:54
Speaker 2: maybe they did have the exploratory talks and now they've
39:56
Speaker 2: kind of backed off. Uh do you think? Seam said
40:01
Speaker 2: something on Friday that Boston has told some teams, Hey,
40:05
Speaker 2: we'd like four first round picks for Jalen Brown. What
40:08
Speaker 2: do you think about the idea of the Hornets going
40:10
Speaker 2: after ja, Like, do you want them to do this? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this guy's a winner, championship pedigree, he's
40:17
Speaker 3: a leader. You can do so many different things with them, Mac,
40:21
Speaker 3: whether it's the wing, small ball four. He's got the
40:25
Speaker 3: relationship already with Charles Lee. No, this to me is
40:29
Speaker 3: a no brainer. Last year, Boston played way over its
40:33
Speaker 3: head without Jason Tatum for most of the season. They
40:36
Speaker 3: were an unbelievable story, Mac, all things considered, Why do
40:39
Speaker 3: we think that was? Yeah, it's the culture, it's Missoula.
40:43
Speaker 3: But why do we think, Mac, they had a great
40:45
Speaker 3: year in the regular season without Tatum. It's that dude
40:48
Speaker 3: right there. That dude kept it together all year. He's
40:52
Speaker 3: a great player. Sam Amoc of The Athletic has a
40:55
Speaker 3: report overnight that the front runner right now is Portland
40:59
Speaker 3: and it's first rounders. If you didn't have to give
41:02
Speaker 3: up a lot of players for him, and it's a
41:05
Speaker 3: bunch of the first rounders that you own, and you
41:08
Speaker 3: could have a core will you throw him in with
41:10
Speaker 3: the core of the team. That's a no brainer to me.
41:13
Speaker 3: Would you give up nas Reed?
41:14
Speaker 2: Though? Like, if that's true and they're asking for nas Reed,
41:16
Speaker 2: are you giving up nas Reed to get Jayleen Brown?
41:19
Speaker 2: I think I think so. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I love Nazrid, but Jalen Brown is a all world player.
41:24
Speaker 3: I yes, that's a superstar. Nos Reed is really good.
41:28
Speaker 3: He's not the star that Jalen Brown is. Jalen Brown's
41:31
Speaker 3: a dog.
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Speaker 2: He's a two way player, and two way wings man
41:34
Speaker 2: are gold in this league. I just I don't know, Like,
41:38
Speaker 2: are we ready to make that big move now? And
41:42
Speaker 2: I know fans right now are screaming at the radio. Yes, yes,
41:44
Speaker 2: because as fans Bone, we have waited four years to
41:48
Speaker 2: see something worth the crap and we got it at
41:51
Speaker 2: the end of the year last year. So fans aren't
41:53
Speaker 2: wanting to take a step back. But does Jalen Brown.
41:57
Speaker 2: How old is Jalen Brown now, Bone approach, Uh Jalen Brown.
42:02
Speaker 2: Top of my head, I want to say he's twenty eight,
42:04
Speaker 2: but I will double check here, Like I'm just trying
42:06
Speaker 2: to think of the timeline, and he's got three years left.
42:09
Speaker 3: Jyalen Brown turns thirty October twenty four. Yeah, that's what
42:12
Speaker 3: I thought. So I don't know, And then what do
42:15
Speaker 3: we do? Are we trading Brandon Miller? He's an NBA champion,
42:18
Speaker 3: NBA Finals MVP, five time All Star, two time All NBA.
42:24
Speaker 2: I mean like this is this is a level above
42:28
Speaker 2: the guys trading Miller. Are you trading Con?
42:32
Speaker 6: Like?
42:32
Speaker 2: Are you willing to trade either one of those guys?
42:35
Speaker 2: I would together. I think they would ask for Con.
42:37
Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade Con. I would trade I would trade Miller.
42:40
Speaker 2: So that's your limit, and then I would have let
42:41
Speaker 2: go Con.
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Speaker 3: I would have Kobe. If you don't think you could
42:46
Speaker 3: win with Kobe, Con, Jalen Brown, and Nas Reed, you
42:52
Speaker 3: can win with that?
42:53
Speaker 2: And then what if you're trading nas Reid in this thing? Oh?
42:56
Speaker 3: I thought we're trading Miller, though we trade both of them,
42:59
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm gonna take I trade first rounder
43:03
Speaker 3: in one of the players. I wouldn't trade both players
43:05
Speaker 3: because I think Kobe, Kahan, Nas and Jalen Brown and
43:09
Speaker 3: then of course some a big and then you've got
43:11
Speaker 3: all the young.
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Speaker 2: Guys that you've drafted. Are you gonna win with that?
43:15
Speaker 2: Flat out? You can win with that. I mean, you
43:16
Speaker 2: could win with it, but what like how much are
43:18
Speaker 2: you winning? Because this team is more than forty four games?
43:21
Speaker 2: Just so yeah, but that's again, that's not the bar,
43:23
Speaker 2: right because we all said with the we've all been
43:25
Speaker 2: trying We've been trying to say here lately, but it's
43:27
Speaker 2: not about this year's win total necessarily, So like, is
43:31
Speaker 2: it the best long term move for us to make
43:34
Speaker 2: or we better off just waiting here a little bit.
43:39
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm conflicted. I love him as a player,
43:42
Speaker 2: but part of me would like to see this con
43:44
Speaker 2: and branded on the wings thing through, build around that
43:47
Speaker 2: young core, decide on on Brandon's contract extension. Listen, am
43:52
Speaker 2: I gonna be mad if they go out there and
43:54
Speaker 2: trade for Jalen Brown? Hell though, the guy's an absolute star,
43:57
Speaker 2: you know, But I don't know. I'm trying to process.
44:01
Speaker 2: Do we do something like this right now, take on
44:02
Speaker 2: salary bone of close to sixty million dollars a year?
44:06
Speaker 2: Or do we hold off? I would do it. I
44:11
Speaker 2: would do I'd get Jo and Brown in here. What
44:13
Speaker 2: do you think, FITTI, you are the Jalen Brown hater
44:15
Speaker 2: of the show. You don't want any part of this guy,
44:17
Speaker 2: do you.
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Speaker 5: I'm not as big as a hater as Flounder, who
44:20
Speaker 5: said on Friday he will not be in the NBA
44:23
Speaker 5: or the Basketball Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 2: My biggest hesitation is just why are we debating that.
44:29
Speaker 5: We had a whole debate before the West and Walker
44:31
Speaker 5: show on Friday. He will, he will be, He'll be
44:34
Speaker 5: in the next When they do the NBA Top one
44:36
Speaker 5: hundred players, Dyalen Brown will be on that list.
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Speaker 2: My hesitation Mac.
44:40
Speaker 5: Is I don't want to trade I don't want to
44:43
Speaker 5: trade away Miller or con and I think that, yeah,
44:46
Speaker 5: they cover at the first round picks, but I think
44:49
Speaker 5: they're going to want an established player, if not two
44:52
Speaker 5: established players back, because they're trading away an all NBA guy,
44:55
Speaker 5: a former Finals MVP, and I just don't know if
44:58
Speaker 5: I want to do that.
44:59
Speaker 2: He's a hell of a player.
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Speaker 5: And when you get a two way star, those guys
45:06
Speaker 5: don't grow on trees either. But I'd like to see
45:10
Speaker 5: what con Kinipple and Brandon Miller could develop into it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of want to. I kind of want
45:15
Speaker 2: them to develop a little bit here and kind of
45:17
Speaker 2: see where we are with those two guys. As the
45:20
Speaker 2: main offensive cause on the Ringers updated top one hundred,
45:24
Speaker 2: which they do all the time. He checked in as
45:27
Speaker 2: of June sixteenth as the number fourteen player in the NBA.
45:30
Speaker 2: This franchise has never had a guy that was a
45:32
Speaker 2: high ever as a fourteenth. They've been some great players
45:36
Speaker 2: Kemba and your l J's in your Mornings, they've never
45:38
Speaker 2: had a guy right's highest fourteen. And I would argue
45:40
Speaker 2: he's top ten last year. I mean, he's really good.
45:42
Speaker 2: And if they make the trade, okay, let's rock, let's
45:45
Speaker 2: rock and roll. I just I don't know what should
45:48
Speaker 2: the timeline be for this, Like should we try to
45:51
Speaker 2: go out there and do a move like that right away?
45:53
Speaker 2: Do we pause a little bit? Do we use that?
45:57
Speaker 2: Because you can't use the trade exception on him? So
46:00
Speaker 2: do we?
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Speaker 3: The NBA stars are just scrundled every year. They don't
46:03
Speaker 3: just all of a sudden want to be Oh, that's right,
46:05
Speaker 3: who's the next crop?
46:06
Speaker 2: Next year? We go after? But anyway, so the last
46:08
Speaker 2: time we just scrolled star got moved. But anyways, there'll
46:11
Speaker 2: be more next year, you know, I guess to that
46:13
Speaker 2: point that you're just making right there, there'll be more
46:14
Speaker 2: next year. But I don't know, man, Jeff Peterson makes
46:18
Speaker 2: the big bucks. He's got to try to figure this out.
46:20
Speaker 2: He's got to know when the appropriate time is to
46:23
Speaker 2: hit the gas and that sort of thing. I'm not
46:25
Speaker 2: gonna scream and and stomp and moan if we make
46:29
Speaker 2: the move though, you know, yeah, you don't stop in
46:32
Speaker 2: moan a lot. That's not your thing. I would never,
46:35
Speaker 2: would never stomp and moan. Seems like most of the
46:37
Speaker 2: Texters agree with Bone, like trade Miller, but not con.
46:41
Speaker 2: I'm not in a hurry to trade either right now.
46:43
Speaker 2: I completely get the Jaylen Brown what he is, but
46:47
Speaker 2: it's just I don't know, man, is hard Bone. This
46:50
Speaker 2: whole thing is this team has changed right in front
46:53
Speaker 2: of our face, and we don't know what Peterson's doing.
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Speaker 3: It's tough, man. It's hard to be to figure out.
46:58
Speaker 3: It's hard to be in an America's basket team right now.
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