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QB Rankings God's Style! · The Fantasy Football War Council

• Jonathan: Okay. ⁓ let's start with our Q rankings. Take us away. Take us away. Daniel: Consensus industry number one, Josh Allen. Jonathan: I mean it's yeah, pretty fitting. Yeah, it's a massive TV. So yeah, like you said like you said before, he's he did it last year. They didn't change anything. He's gonna do it again. It's a good way of putting it. I like what you did earlier, so Daniel: It's a it's a given, right? Like everybody everybody Dynasty redraft, not much to say. All right. Not Last McGeee: Not not much to say here. you Jonathan: Welcome in mortals to another meeting of the fantasy football war council behind your God of War Jonathan. As always I'm joined by the gods of war, brothers of mischief, Mario, no longer champion. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. That that's right. ⁓ number two, John and I have the same player and Mario's got a surprise. So ⁓ go ahead, John. Who we got at number two? Jonathan: We're just old past champ champs. That's what we are. We're just old past champ champs. We have to think about the time of win. The time of win. The time of win. Yes, man. So hey, what are we... This is an exciting episode. We have a lot of news to get to. We have the quarterback rankings and we have our wide receiver rankings this week. Because last week was our running back and... It Lamar Jackson and as we were saying before before we cut out, ⁓ the running ability is there, the throwing ability less and less so, and his receivers ability less and less so. And Daniel, you were saying the coaching change. Offensive coordinator. Are you you said they're getting a ⁓ defensive minded coach instead now Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: So if you missed last week, go back and listen. So these things matter and I don't know. I think you gotta move him down. I don't think he said the two. Running ability and throwing ability is what puts him here at two. But if throwing abilities capped a little and his wide receivers are gonna struggle, and it's just him running the ball with Derrick Henry, yeah, they could do it and they're gonna do well. But is it number two levels? Daniel: Yeah. Let's go. All right, first one. ⁓ Baker Mayfield has not signed an extension and gives a deadline at the beginning of training camp. After that, the ⁓ he won't do contract talks because he needs to concentrate on football. So he is currently the sixteenth highest paid QB and is looking for a $14 million raise, which would make him the 11th highest. He says they are not close at all in their figures. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Mm. Not Last McGeee: I I I think I've seen the metrics on Lamar and Lamar actually is one of the better passers in the NFL, but his his receivers his receivers are not reliable. ⁓ Jonathan: Maybe like four or five. We have a cheap team and he's not asking for a big, big giant pay raise. I think it's very fair. ⁓ I know Mario, you agree with this one, but I think it's incredibly fair. But I love the fact that he's going to just say, hey, you know what? By this deadline, I'm going to play because I need to play. And he his mind on playing instead and will bring, circle back, you know, we'll circle back the wagons. ⁓ Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: ⁓ absolutely, but they're not giving them any good. Mm, or garbage. Not Last McGeee: And so that's we have to see what the new rookies do, but they're rookies. And I if Flowers has growth, that's great. But having a defensive minded head coach, he's not gonna want him airing it out. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: So I mean just you you put everything together and I actually dropped him down to number seven. And that's not a knock on Lamar Jackson. I just think last year overall quarterbacks had a lower fantasy rating and ⁓ Jonathan: Get back to thinking about it. Daniel: Yeah. Then I'll let his agent take care of it. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, very professional. speaking of, that's right. Jonathan: Yeah, like, that's... I know football. Hey. Daniel: I mean it works for both because if he happens to like have a epic year and go through and like win a Super Bowl or an ⁓ V P or something like that, that's gonna be a massive discount to sign him now rather than in the future. ⁓ Jonathan: Hold on, I'm gonna say look at who I've got at number seven and who sits at number two. That's a really good change and swap of what you got. And you're I see what you did there. And Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: It both well. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: Who you got at number two, Murray? Jonathan: Absolutely. Let's see that happen right here in Los Angeles. Let's see it. Come on. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Dang. Not Last McGeee: Justin Herbert. He's got Mike McDaniels now. Yeah. Daniel: Mm. Not Last McGeee: They've only added to his passing. QJ learned how to catch last year. ⁓ you just have w when you look at the physical traits of Josh Allen and why he's number one perennially, and you look at Justin Herbert, and now you've got a play caller that can kind of help him grow that way, plus what they've done with the offensive line and the offensive line being healthy, I just go, okay, well And then speaking of someone who had a big discount, that discount is over with Patrick Mahomes. He had a very long team friendly deal before and they just reworked his contract to add two years to it and a quarter of a billion dollars on top of that bring his overall per year total to about 64 million per year making him the highest paid American Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: Yeah, region. Healthy is the key there. Not Last McGeee: sea ceiling call, I put him next, ⁓ and that's kinda where where we're at with that. football player in history and yeah I don't think anyone's batting an eye at this. Jonathan: Yeah, I I feel better about that ceiling call than I do about Lamar Jackson. My goodness. ⁓ my. My. I think I have to switch that. I think I have to go to I gotta go to the Mario site on this one. I mean, it's good for him, getting his money. ⁓ yeah, I hope it doesn't hurt the rest of the team, you know? That's what I'm thinking. I'm starting to think like, hey, that money could have been a player or two, but you know. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Yeah, you so Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Okay. ⁓ Duh. Daniel: Alright, so I happen to like Mario's number three, but I'm gonna go with the one that ⁓ John and I both ranked three, which is Jaden Daniels. Bounce back year, new offensive coordinator, some more tools in that offense. Should be a good year for him. Tip typically these contracts do balloon out at the end. So they're expecting the salary caps to be going up and stuff like that. I just I think I see a regression in how much the quarterbacks are going to be making per capita. I because teams aren't just gonna be willing to pay them fifty, sixty million dollars a year anymore because of the fact that look at how many quarterbacks have been successful after getting those large contracts. There there aren't many of them. Not Last McGeee: you Jonathan: And and this is what I I don't feel strong about putting him here. It was a dirty pick for me. But it's more the fact of he has the running ability and when he comes back he runs. He's the dual he's the dual threat guy. And if he's healthy, he's gonna be here. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: ⁓ especially because the teams, you know, they can't put the money elsewhere. So, you know, it it it beforehand, like a year or two ago, and be like, this is gonna be the a quarterback's gonna be like eighty million dollars a year by then. But I think that teams are seeing that it's not actually paying off, so I will it'd be a coin flip on seeing if it's gonna be a deal for Kansas City or if he's gonna be, you know, making far more than everybody else by that time. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: But again it's the running ability like we talked with Lamar. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, you you can't knock that. He's Jonathan: He's got passers. I mean, Scary Terry goes to his ears. He's got a good year and then he's got the scary year. That's why they call him Scary Terry, right? Daniel: Yep. Jonathan: Well. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, and I think that Mahomes setting the market here at 64, which is only 4 million more than Dak Prescott, is actually a good cap on that market. Because before it was a team friendly deal. the agents... Well, I think so. Because I think that the agents were like, it's a team friendly deal, and we know it's a team friendly deal. So we're going to fight for our guy to get more than that, because we're going to get paid what we're going to get paid. Jonathan: I don't know. I think he kinda played okay last year and I think he was in a scary year. That's what's kinda scary to me. I'm a little over mm. Daniel: Qu qu I mean, quite possibly, but ⁓ Well Jonathan: When it came to my rankings, I almost dropped him off the top twenty five list completely. Not Last McGeee: No more things. Jonathan: It ain't gonna be a cab. Daniel: Wow. Jonathan: Let's see. Let's see. I contemplated it. He's on the list, but I contemplated just 'cause ⁓ I've got a name yeah, I've got a name there that should be there, I believe. And I'm like, who do I take off? And every time I scour that list, he's the name that I come across and I go, That'd be the name I remove, you know. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. That's why it's a dirty pick to me, Jaden Daniels at three. I I Daniel: He's here for his ceiling. Jonathan: Yeah. I would like to see it be the cap because I think things have been very inflated. A lot of contracts have been super inflated and like certain positions aren't and the money should be spread around more, right? but... ⁓ Daniel: Yeah. Move from the list completely. Not Last McGeee: I think teams can look at this and say, are you worth more than Patrick Mahomes? We don't think so, because this is what Mahomes thought he was worth. Daniel: Well I ⁓ Yeah. Ha. Jonathan: I put it there because of his dual thread ability and what he can do and I and his ceiling ability. But honestly, like he's got a hit of ceiling. True. Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: Correct. Yep, I can see that angle. Jonathan: Speaking of the pie chart of your money, Jared First has a huge week. Good for him. After receiving news that he has been packing his things to move to Cleveland, he ends up welcoming a daughter into the world. What a huge and emotional time for him. Congratulations, Jared First. And showing up to camp and wearing number eight and stealing gay reels. Just straight stealing gay reels. Not even like, hey, Daniel: He did it as a rookie with less, is the way I put thought. He did it as a rookie with less and then he got hurt last week. He was f he was fantastic until he got hurt last year. I like Mario's number three though. A little high for my blood, but I love it. Not Last McGeee: He's yeah, he's he's undisputedly se second or third best on legs. Jonathan: Got hurt though, yeah. Yeah, got hurt. Daniel: Man. Jonathan: See, it's a little high, but if I were to drop da if I were to drop Daniels down, yeah, I could see Caleb Williams being put into the three or four slot. So it's not a far off yeah, it's not far off, so Daniel: Stealing Gabriel's number. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Hey, I will wear this number and then we're going to talk about it. Daniel: Yeah. No. I think ⁓ what yeah, I think Ianacho, ⁓ on like ESPN was like, Bro, he didn't think about you. You've you're a third string quarterback. You're lucky if you're even on the team when the year starts. No, he doesn't owe you a cent. He's the franchise. Like I think I think you're he's like I I think you're ⁓ you the s have a self inflated portion of worth there, buddy. Not Last McGeee: That was so cold. Yeah, for for me I just look at all the tools, a second year of Ben Johnson, all those things coming together and it it almost makes me not want to draft a single bear on offense because Caleb's gonna be able to and we know he can process putting it everywhere on that field and and getting through. And so so I'm I'm like with all that Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Thanks. Daniel: You don't know. Not Last McGeee: The team should have said something, though. Jonathan: He went over thinking, who's number? Yeah. Mm. It's just spread it around. Daniel: I was like, dang. Jonathan: He did you- he just did you a solid by giving you something, that's all. Not Last McGeee: It's really hard. It was really hard for me to knock him down and he just kept coming up on my thing 'cause I I actually went down a projection calculator that I made to figure it out and I have he's just he's up there in the mix with these next four where any one of them could make it right here in this range of within a couple points for the year and Caleb just came out on top, so his his legs and Daniel: Yeah. All right, Alvin Kamar was traded to the Packers for a twenty twenty seven third round and a conditional twenty twenty eight fifth round pick. Guess this also fits under Josh Jacob news. Yep. They're hedging their bets. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yep, that's smarter than. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: Worth it for a third. Jonathan: For a third, if you get Kamara and he runs a Kamara of old, sure. absolutely. If he doesn't, it's only a third, so... Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: And his ability there, he's he's my third guy. Be gone. Jonathan: Yeah, okay. All right, all right. The next four? Mm, yeah. I don't know. Not Last McGeee: Okay, and then out of Brown's camp, we've got... Daniel: I he's easily here if he puts his completion percentage up to 64, 65% range, even 63% range. His completion percentage last year was like a low 59. It was one of the worst in the league. And so ⁓ another year in that offense with Ben Johnson, it's an achievable thing. ⁓ and so if he's able to do that this is definitely feasible because he also Not Last McGeee: some news of the Who's the QB one should do Sanders looks like he's overtaking that role not on paper Watson still listed as the QB one, but from camp they're saying that she's much more consistent and Deshaun Watson has better highlights much better boom or bust place They're like when he buzz you're just like what are you doing? Have you ever played quarterback before? Jonathan: He's gotta get his completion right there. Dude, the floor was like Yeah. That was fifty acres yet. Yeah, yeah. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Daniel: is sneakily a dual threat quarterback. Like he does run a decent amount. You're not talking like, you know, sixty, eighty, hundred yards like some of these other guys, but he'll he'll do thirty to forty yards a game. Mm-hmm. And a touchdown. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: for. And then the other throws are like, wow, this is the guy. And Shidora is just consistently dinking through the field, diagnosing the defense and doing what you would expect a decent quarterback as starter to do. ⁓ with Deshaun Watson, they're Yes. Jonathan: Enough that you gotta put a a spy on ⁓ which takes a waves somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Opens the spot up. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. He he could get a sneaky four hundred yards. Little little first down here, little first down there. like a little Mahomes plus when it comes to those little rushing. Yeah. At Jonathan: I saw the highlights. I will point out the really nice one arm throw down or the one arm catch down to Bond. Isaiah Bond was really nice. And then I would like to point out the immediate grab by you was even nicer. Just ⁓ very nice because I was like, hey, I bet nobody has Bond. Mm hmm. Which is detrimental. Yeah, he doesn't need to be running the field. He's just de enough to be detrimental that you have to put somebody on him. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I I think that his chemistry with his ca pass catchers, ⁓ is why I bumped him up because he's very ⁓ prone to not have interceptions, so he throws away. I think ⁓ one sec, one set. But now with one year more with them, I think he's gonna try pushing those windows a little tighter, which could really, really launch his numbers. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: I'm Jonathan: I should look at that. And then there was a notification, I'm like, well, I don't need to look at it. ⁓ well. Someone else is already on it. Daniel: Yeah. Dude, I traded Mario Bond because I was like, I still think he's got something in the tank and I he dropped him and I almost immediately picked him up when he dropped him. And I was like dude That's I was so cl and then I was like I'll yeah we'll see how that goes I guess but yeah I was so close Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: He's down to it. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. It it could be his coming out party this year. He's gonna, you know, so I that's how I feel about that. All right. ⁓ I actually have Herbert here at number four. I'm second highest on Herbert for all of those ⁓ same things that Mario was talking about. ⁓ Mario has another one that I'm really happy to see this high. This is Trevor Lawrence. ⁓ Jonathan: Mmmmm Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Because of the trade you should have. Not Last McGeee: I know that is Daniel: And then and then I heard some news this morning and I got caught up at work and then all of a sudden I saw him go and I was like, Yeah, that was good job picking him back up because I almost I almost I almost said, Okay, fine, took him right back. Jonathan: I don't know. Not Last McGeee: Ha ha ha. Jonathan: Hmm I was swiping Yeah, I was swiping and I saw a video and I'm like, ⁓ that's a really nice video and I kind of swiped out of the app I moved over and you're doing the whole scroll to be like who should I draw and that's when the notification came through and I'm like That's been the third player in the last week that I've lost because I'm not That's too rich for my blood. No way. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. I know. I I had a hard time with him here, but my numbers kept coming up, putting him up high. Daniel: ⁓ Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: ⁓ QB two the last f three weeks of the season. Last four weeks of the season. T Q B number two. Once that offense started clicking. So you know, he have a fluctuations of the season. Jonathan: Mm. Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: It was a small too small of a sample size for me to wanna trust it all year long, you know what I mean? And I'm in the add drop phase and it happens then and I'm like, I'm not quick enough in the add drop phase. I don't have that. Like I don't have a name. That's a good thing not to have. I don't have a name ready because I like a lot of my players. So it's a better. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Well, I mean, y it it gives you that momentum into this year with having that new head coach, second year in the system, you know, players getting more used to it. In that situation, it's like good things, not a regression as much as what you'd think. So yeah. Yep. Yep. Not Last McGeee: my body, it belongs to my screen and my bag. is. Daniel: Mm-hmm. That's yeah. And we have sixty three roster spots, and yet we still have not enough for the players. ⁓ I love it. All right. Not Last McGeee: Well to my back. It's so hard. Jonathan: No, it's not I I agree. It's but I mean with changes of a coach and things like that, it's I don't know, I just I didn't I I I I didn't see that much of an ingr increase. So I yeah, you're higher than again, you're higher than me though, so you're way higher than ever. So I'm the lowest doctor ever, Lawrence, for sure. Yes! ⁓ Not Last McGeee: Yeah. You can come. Jonathan: I got like three or four kickers and I still don't have it you. I was like, think you're too worthy. Not Last McGeee: Okay. Daniel: Hey, I don't have him at four either. You know, Mario's got him at four. I am higher than you. Yes. Yeah. Who are you who Yeah. So funny. For sure. I've got like eighteen running backs on my team, so Not Last McGeee: Hahaha Yeah. So y there's So there's there's one more point to why I bumped him up and that's because the BTJ has shown up to OTAs. Jonathan: Yes, I know, yeah. You're running back king over here. We all need to come to you and bow and be like, please sir, we need a running back. We need us, please, we need them. We need them. Daniel: Well I mean this is a dynasty strategy, yes. Not Last McGeee: And started developing chemistry with Trevor Lawrence. And whereas if ⁓ n I don't think a quarterback can sustain on some of the shorter dink plays and choppings that built the Jaguars last year. But having that deep threat and if he gets those long air balls that give us a lot of fantasy points, ⁓ that mixed with him using his legs more last year, all of those numbers that started coming Daniel: ⁓ they just keep on being there when I'm ready to draft and I'm like, All right. Jonathan: There are none! Yeah, are none. We literally need one. Please give us some. Yes, please. Yeah. One of them's gonna hit. Yeah, someone's gonna hit out of that stack you took of them. Last year it was way worse. It was just like... Daniel: That's right. You know, their trade capital. You know, I get six of those eighteen that hit. I mean that that's right. Yeah, I only drafted three this year. ⁓ I've got nineteen. I wasn't considering Heidenreich because he's on my taxi. I've got night nineteen. But ⁓ all right. Jonathan: Mm. Not Last McGeee: Coming together with the possibility of BTJ just being a little more in the mix, and what it looked like when Travis Hunter was in the mix for those two games where he shined. ⁓ that slight expansion into the offense would infuse a lot of points in Trevor Lawrence. And so I just took half of what that could be, added it to Trevor Lawrence, and it gave him kind of this projection here. Jonathan: So, taxi's gone, gotta feel the taxi. Alright, one, two, three. Yeah, is! This is the time, you need to bond, you need to make friendships, you need to like, learn to catch with your guy, you know? I mean, this is where you connect with somebody and make those connections and make- Daniel: Ha ha. Not Last McGeee: Okay. Jonathan: Mm. Okay. All right. last team, right? mean, come on, this is a fucking... This is where you become really best friends for a very long time because if you do, you get contracts and contracts and you stay on the same team and win and win and win. Daniel: And John, what you got? Jonathan: ⁓ for n ⁓ my number four I put ⁓ Caleb Williams. ⁓ I I'm really ⁓ Daniel: It's t Mm-hmm. You were convinced. Jonathan: I was convinced. Well, I God, I bet I'm high on him already, and I wanted to put ⁓ higher, but I just again ⁓ these two names that sit at two and three are strong names because of what the dual threat ability they bring, regardless of the rest of the team around them. And the they have the ability to carry it, and that's what an amazing players like that do. And if you could Daniel: It it's it's typical rookie growing pains though, right? How many times you hear a rookie receiver having a ⁓ pulled hamstring or growing in in the year or training camp coming out? Better for him to get it now and get conditioned in and then you know be able to go through training camp when the pads are on and stuff. So hopefully he's good by then and it doesn't linger because that would be bad. Mm-hmm. All right. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Or is it a fact that something like that keeps happening? Yeah. Amstrings linger. Yeah. You know. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. It's a good sign for Stowers, though. He's getting the chemistry instead. That's a lot of strong pass catchers there to compete with. But I think Lemon's pedigree already has him where he can rest up and make sure he's fully healthy for the season, though. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Put those players around them to make them better. Boy, does that elevate the le the playing field of everybody around, right? So no, I I think that's why Caleb goes up is because he's got the dual threat ability. He's not as fast or as quick as Lamar or Jaden. He's not ⁓ he's you know, but ⁓ he can do it, he can run and he's he's gotta think a better team around him than the others do, so Yeah Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Mm. Daniel: Yeah, I like what Philadelphia's offense is gonna look like, Sans AJ Brown. I think that was such a good move on their behalf, but ⁓ we'll we'll we'll go back to hamstrings here. Christian Watson got paid like a new wide receiver one in Green Bay with a team friendly four year hundred and ten million dollars hundred and th or ⁓ thirty one million dollar guaranteed contract. Good. Not Last McGeee: Me too. Jonathan: ⁓ smart. Absolutely. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: I think that his ceiling is what Mahomes was supposed to be throughout his career. That's his ceiling because that's his style of play. Jonathan: Yes. Yeah. They just couldn't put that they couldn't put those better players around the homes 'cause they paid ⁓ too fucking much money. That's the that's the problem. So Yeah, yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, I got ⁓ Yeah, he needs to stop paid. Good for him. Daniel: I think he's got And we have a consensus number five. Kinda it it's kind of a enough said one though too, right? Joe Burrow, number five, healthy, enough said. That's Jonathan: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. ⁓ Mm-hmm. Daniel: mean, he was their most efficient receiver when he's actually on the field, so hopefully he's healthy. Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Healthy. If he's yeah, healthy he sits here. He's got boy two of the best I mean, honestly, like Jamar's the top five and with T Higgins, if he's healthy, again another healthy guy, ⁓ he can stay healthy, that guy has the ability to be in the top ten. Ability to be in the top ten. But health I think is a big issue with Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: When he's on the video Daniel: Mm. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. ⁓ Jonathan: interesting to see where we have some of the rankings. Not Last McGeee: Yep. And in other news, out in the barren deserts of Arizona, Jacobi Brissette is doing a hold in. He's shown up to camp. He's doing his work on the plays, but he is not taking to the field. And, yeah, that's, that's embarrassing. And then, so I mean, he's got a little more ammunition after, ⁓ Yeah. Daniel: Yeah, it's a healthy Joe Burrow as a top five quarterback, just flat out. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm-mm. Not Last McGeee: Yep. And his the they've always drafted for upside and it looks like with all the pieces that they've added to that offensive line, it looks like they're finally got enough knowledge under their belt and everything to wear. It's a decent offensive line too, so it should keep him healthier. Miles Garrett went to the LA Rams and he's just like, no, no, no, no. When I said I wanted more money, like you're gonna protect me from that? No. Give me more, give me more. Jonathan: Mm interesting. Interesting. Well, that's a good consensus, I think. Number six. This is interesting. Three straight different names across the board. I like it. ⁓ Drake May for myself. Drake May, Drake May, Drake May, Drake May. ⁓ doing Drake May things. And I think, you know, I hate I ha I do not like AJ Brown, but the addition of a new receiver does kinda help a quarterback out. So I think I'm gonna put his numbers up a little more. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: I don't think he has any ammunition honestly I think they're gonna be a top pick a top three pick a top three pick For next year's draft grabbing a quarterback. They're gonna replace him. There's no need to throw I Will say the bank but there's not even a need to throw the grocery bag at this motherfucker Because he ain't worth it and honestly, I'd rather see what Carson Beck Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: ⁓ because of it he jumped up my board a little bit. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, stylistically they fit really well together too. Jonathan: does for the year and take us to that number one pick and get us somebody better and say hey you know what we at least tried and see what our our rookie did then pay you a bunch of money just to get to that spot anyway. Yeah. They should yeah, they should do really well, I think, but Ugh God he's a plague. Brown's a plague. I hope he doesn't hurt Drake May. Yeah, don't hurt Drake May. I like Drake May. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Ha ha ha. Yeah. Daniel: You're the highest on Drake May. This other one, th this this line are all players that we are the highest in. Mine is Matthew Stafford. ⁓ at six. He was QB two overall last year. Jonathan: Yes, I was. Daniel: Yep. Jonathan: So. Daniel: They he's Jacoby Brissett's got zero leverage, which is why they're like, Yeah, all right, that's cool. We're just gonna make sure we have the number one overall pick next year anyways, and and you know what? We'll put him out there. And if he does good, maybe we'll get Jeremiah Smith with that number one overall pick instead. You know? And so mm Jonathan: No, yeah. Exactly. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: And you Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Nothing's really changed. Why is he falling so far? I mean, we already dropped him pretty far, from two to six. So I I mean, he's always he's always doubted, but dude just puts up points, you know? So Jonathan: Absolutely and Smith next Harrison my goodness like Yeah. Not Last McGeee: I Daniel: Mm-hmm. And McBride and Love. Not Last McGeee: year. Jonathan: And McBride, oh my good man, that offense is like prime for a good quarterback just to step right into it and be like, hi, I'm a rookie. This is now the best situation a rookie has ever been into. Goodbye, Raiders. You know, and be like. He doubted, but the dude's got a canon. And I don't think it's doubt. I think it's more age and age of some of the players around him. ⁓ his number two receiver is getting old as well. ⁓ Puka I like Puka, but Daniel: Mm. Not Last McGeee: So stupid. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Or I mean, if Carson Beck, like, ⁓ he fell off last year after he had like a shoulders or elbow surgery. So like what if a year after he's recovered from that he's the player he was the year before, which he was the talk of being the number one overall pick at that point in time, like Not Last McGeee: Yeah, he needs to mature though. Daniel: It's ⁓ Stafford's Stafford's like that sleeper s sleeper build of a car, right? He's he's like a a ⁓ Prius with a V eight in there. Like you look at him and you're you don't think of it as anything and all of a sudden you're like, Holy shit, what was that? You know, like so he's not enticing with the way that he plays, but he just pulls up numbers and makes some crazy throws and and you know he's not gonna run, but Jonathan: He does need to mature a little. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: It was very good. And he decided to stay an extra year in college at that point, yeah. Not Last McGeee: When daddy's done with work, I'll put a band-aid on her, okay? Daniel: And he had to have surgery, which took power away last year, so it made him look bad. But I mean, a year after that, let what if he's able to get stronger throughout this year and he really actually shows out. So they're like, Well, we got our franchise guy in the second round. We had ⁓ Jillian love ⁓ with our other pick, and then we've got, you know, if it maybe it's not first or overall next year, but then they can use it on a massive skill position at that point or Jonathan: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Get it in there. Okay. Daniel: Like I said, he didn't have any legs last year. Finished Q B two. So Not Last McGeee: So I I I dropped him a little lower for a completely different reason. in the offseason, the Rams fixed all their problems on defense. So now their their D B room and their line are stronger and their defense can hold the games better. So I don't think he's gonna need to have an as aggressive as an offense. I don't knock Stafford at all. I think what's that? Ready, Mason? Jonathan: If you Daniel: Or double down at quarterback and see what they've gotten both those guys. More you know, heighten your likelihood of actually hitting. But Jonathan: you Daniel: Hmm. Jonathan: No, absolutely. mean, yeah, 100%. Okay, let's see. Sean out? Yeah, can Sean Booty has asked to be traded from the Patriots to a less crowded wide receiver room? Because, you know, you're not going to get used at this point with the addition of AJ Brown coming to town. So it's time to find a new home. Yeah. Daniel: nein Jonathan: You mean last week they fixed Yeah, you mean last week you mean last week they fixed all their problems when they brought Miles Cameron. I think I think you got that mixed up. I'm sorry. Yeah, I think you got that mixed up. No, I know. I'm joking. I'm joking. I thought it was a good joke. Not Last McGeee: It no I I think I I Daniel: Yeah. No, because they got two new cornerbacks. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. I I th I think moving from Jared Verse to Miles Garrett is a bump. And then if they have the Aaron Donald signing, that will be exponential on top of that. And so so I I I think they're gonna be able to win with defense. And so why why risk the ball? You know? And so I I think Matthew Stafford's gonna be his efficiency numbers will be even better than last year, but I don't think the yardage Jonathan: Then the boat be somewhere else. Daniel: Yep. I mean that's a good move for him, especially since you don't want to be in the same room as this guy. ⁓ AJ Brown is just yapping all over town, spreading as much gossip about the locker room and different players and the front office and Philly trolling Philly fans and they're getting pissed at him and it's just a nasty Not Last McGeee: That's right. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: No! I'm just playing! Not Last McGeee: That's so cool. will be there as much because they won't have to. And ⁓ that's why I knocked him down. Jonathan: No, it'll be touchdown dependent and handoffs to ⁓ it'll be low numbers, right? It'll be like Tom Brady numbers. It'll be like number eighteen. It won't be a high quor ⁓ quarterback. I can see that. I put ⁓ low. I'm with you. I I I had him low on my list. So Daniel: nasty situation. It he's just ⁓ i I think he feels like he's like vindicating himself by saying all of this stuff, but it's just proving how bad he was in that situation. It's doing the exact opposite than what he's thinking about. So it's just an embarrassment, man. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Daniel: Mario, who are you the highest out of all of us on? Not Last McGeee: You want this one? Jonathan: He was made some comments on social media the other day that I was reading it and like as I'm this I'm getting like Not Last McGeee: Jalen Hurts. I think ⁓ Cha Jalen Hurts has always done really well. and he's doesn't have all the tools that Stafford has, but now he has all these weapons. And I think with the tush push still being viable and all these other things, I think it only adds to his abilities and he's always been a top five before and here I have him at six. Jonathan: Hmm. It's not AB, it's BA. ⁓ I'm seeing our problem receiver that ran off the field while he played Arizona taking off his clothes and running away. It's Antonio Brown, right? It's fucking AB. It's, because he's beyond BA on his personal, it's easy. I see it like the shit that he spews. Not Last McGeee: What? knowing that his overall offense is going to improve. So yeah. Yeah. Daniel: Nice. All right. ⁓ we've got our number sevens. ⁓ go ahead and just lead into you th your number seven, Mario. Not Last McGeee: It's a nice sound. Jonathan: It's what Ake was doing on his socials the other day and you're just like, this guy, you're a plague to a locker room. Why would someone want to play you? Shut your mouth and just play, right? Go out there and do your job. And then when you're everyone wrong, talk at that point, but you have no leverage to talk right now. All these people, you know. I don't see it. I don't see it. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Okay. My number seven here is Lamar Jackson because I could not drop him any lower than this. ⁓ I have everyone scoring more than they did last year, and I have Lamar Jackson also scoring more than he did last year. just but he's last year was kind of a fluke of him not doing so well. Anyone who had Lamar Jackson was very frustrated last year with him. I see him going back towards typical top five scoring, which Yeah. Yeah, and then... Daniel: Not high on AJ Brown. We'll see later. Jonathan: I don't know. I don't know. Hmm. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, we'll see later. ⁓ Speaking of someone who's no longer in the NFL, we've got ⁓ Broncos former first round pick QB Paxton Lynch. He becomes the first and only quarterback to ever be benched in the NFL, CFL, XFL, and UFL. That's beyond trifecta. ⁓ He's going for the quads there. that's, you know. Which actually puts him at number seven for next year for what I see offenses and defenses doing. Daniel: Nice. ⁓ this is where I have Trevor Lawrence. I think he's gonna have a big year, but I also hedged my bets a little bit and dropped him down. And then ⁓ John, who you got at number seven? Jonathan: Justin Herbert. ⁓ I wanted to put him a little higher, honestly, but this is where I have him slid it in. Yeah, this is where I talked. Like I'd move him to two and I think I'd move Chan Lamar Jackson down to seven. I think that's a nice fit. Like what Mario did there. Like what Mario did. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Quite an accomplishment. Jonathan: You would think first player to be benched from all those. Yeah, XFL wasn't around when Johnny Manziel was here, so that's why. That's why that's a record for someone to fill. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. All right. Now eight, we've got consensus, Dak Prescott. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, well he went to the UFC so he's only one letter off. Jonathan: So, yeah, okay, that makes sense. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: They just is that Jonathan: I mean, behind that offensive line o any of us could throw the ball like that, honestly. Let's be honest. Yeah! Daniel: He's consistently underrated but puts up tight end one numbers. I mean number eight's a great player for that one. Alright, number nine. That's yeah, two be one numbers. My bad. Go ahead, Mario. Who's your number nine? Jonathan: very nice very nice i like that yeah ⁓ man that was a bad fight speaking of god that was a fight okay that Not Last McGeee: ⁓ that was awful. C Q V one, yes. Okay, number nine, I have Drake May. ⁓ I see him having a little bit of regression this year because of the schedule, but I still have him being a super high performer. Daniel: Woo, I am way low on Drake May in comparison to the two of you guys. We'll get down there. How low can he go? That's right. ⁓ I have Caleb Williams here. I think that I want him higher on my list, but I have so many more justifications for those other guys to be ahead of him, which is why he ended up being down here. But this is the one for me that feels dirty. Jonathan: How low will he draw, ⁓ not? Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: John. Having Caleb Williams that low feels dirty. I just don't know where he would go up that list for me. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah above Dak Prescott would be my opinion, but that's just ⁓ above Trevor Lawrence, yeah, above Matthew Stafford, and I think Daniel: Mm. I know he's he's above it on yours. I just ⁓ not I can't do it on mine. I just there's so many other positive things with these other guys. I just didn't I felt dirty. But I'm gonna keep it. Jonathan: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: D Daniel has a lot invested in him for Dynasty, so he's hedging his emotional bets there. Daniel: I do I am Jonathan: Is yeah. You're thinking you're thinking with your heart and with what you want. Yeah. You usually where you fail. Yeah, it's you you can't do that. You can't do that people. Do stick with your brain. No Daniel: I I am. I'm being conservative. Hmm. I I am and my brain says be conservative to be nice to my heart. All right ⁓ John, who you got at number nine? Not Last McGeee: Yes. Jonathan: Understood. ⁓ number nine, Jared Goff. I mean, I really I think he's gonna do ⁓ better this year. I think they're gonna start to turn things around. He needs to step up a little more. ⁓ Jamison Williams is back. Jameson Williams is doing better now. Jamison Williams is gonna be a top receiver in my rankings. ⁓ number thirteen. ⁓ yeah, I I I I have him kinda high you're I'm not as high as you, but I have him I I I when I saw your rankings, I was like, ooh. Not Last McGeee: What? Same here, yep. Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ I like that. But I like I couldn't put him that high. I just I couldn't. I could swap him with number eleven on my list. Maybe number ten, but that's about it. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, I I kinda Daniel: ⁓ Not Last McGeee: Yeah, and Goff quietly got over his dome narrative l last year. So I I I don't hate on this. Daniel: Yeah, we'll get into the receiver ones. ⁓ Jonathan: Could you die? It could be nine. No, I yeah, I think it's actually a good one. Daniel: All right. All right, John, go and ⁓ your number ten player. Jonathan: Baker Mayfield. I mean, I love this guy. I mean, come on. We all love this guy. And I wanted to put him higher, but I think there is a slight regression. I think ⁓ the loss of Mike Evans is gonna hurt him a little bit. ⁓ you know, yes we have Amika. Yes, we've got some really good players surrounding with ⁓ Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Dang, I like Scottie Miller there and I really like ⁓ McMillan. ⁓ McMillan and he got hurt. Yeah, I really wanna see him come back and do a little better ⁓ this season. So ⁓ God see Godwin is looking aged though, and I don't know how much he has left in the tank. I'd rather have liked to see us keep Evans than Godwin in my opinion, because I don't think Godwin has as much left as Evans did. So yeah. Daniel: Jalen McMillan. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: says Johnson Not Last McGeee: And God went back. Daniel: Godwin back. He's looking like he's Not Last McGeee: I agree. I agree. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: I agree with with that assessment also. Mario, I was really surprised that we were consensus on this one. ⁓ I thought I was Jonathan: I I actually before you start before you start, we all three had Tyler Sug here. I moved him. ⁓ yes, we all had ever he was Tyler, Tyler, Tyler right here at number ten. And I I I just I I I it's not based off of him. It's based off of who he has. Not Last McGeee: Yes. Daniel: Really? Mm. Jonathan: And that's really what it comes down to. It's not ⁓ like take away the quarterback, ta any quarterback in that team situation that's gonna be very good because you got Olave and and the other rookie on the other side. I think they're just gonna play off of each other and play really well. It opens up the field, your quarterback has left and right to throw to and it's hard to stop, right? So when you got twin towers Not Last McGeee: Yeah, they added three rookie pass catchers. One tight end and two two big body threats. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: ⁓ big time. So Yeah, the tight end. Daniel: Kellen Kellen Moore as a ⁓ head coach, I think does a lot here. And you know what? He was when Tyler Shuck was took over starting on that team, I think he was like QB eight last year. So you figure, all right, he's if he has a little bit of regression and has the whole season and some of these other guys are gonna be improving too, that might be dropping him down the list, which is why I figured ten for him. Jonathan: Yeah. Okay. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, I sa same. I think with everything around him and more more time with the team and not only that, I love what they did with their draft in New Orleans and so I think all those things only helped him. Daniel: All right. Jonathan: It's a good spot. I actually I had Baker at twelve. I'm I I swapped him in Baker. I just I don't know. I I I I I I had to, yeah. It's a one e there here there was my heart pick, Daniel. There's my fucking heart pick right there. Yeah, I had Tyler Stringer, so Daniel: Agree. Not Last McGeee: Sorry. Daniel: Had to. Not Last McGeee: What's better? Daniel: Yeah. All right, well tell it tell us about your number eleven player. Jonathan: ⁓ this one's dirty to me. It's Jalen Hurts. It's Jalen Hurts. ⁓ yeah, I like what some of the offense was done. ⁓ yes, the departure of Brown will help things I think, but I also don't see it as a high passing offense. ⁓ You know. I don't know. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yep. I mean I I have got Hertz at twelve. I am I am the lowest on him at twelve, so ⁓ you know. Jonathan: Yeah, it's a run for profits. Not Last McGeee: I so I actually if Brock Purdy were in charge of this Eagles offense, I think he'd be number two right behind Josh Allen. I think this is such an easy button offense. It's gonna be a lot through the air and punishing through the ground. I think this is about the easiest offense any QB could be in. That's why I had him up where he is. I couldn't let him slide. Daniel: Ha ha ha. Jonathan: See, I personally see the Eagles going away from Jalen Hurts in the next season or two. ⁓ they drafted a quarterback this year. I see them starting to groom the next quarterback to come in. I don't see them doing a long term contract and keeping Hertz anymore. So I he'll finish up this contract. I don't see him staying any longer, in my opinion. But that's just me. That's just me. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: We'll see. I I mean, he's also had a cancer in the locker room for the last three years, so there's a lot of things that that go along with that too. You know, holding not trusting your receiver. Not Last McGeee: But that I Jonathan: True. Very true. If he turns it around this year and is QB three, then I'm foot in my mouth right now. Yeah, absolutely. But at this point, like I see them straying away from him after this if i if things continue along the lines that they have been and what I expect where I have ⁓ I have ⁓ at eleven, but I honestly I had a penciled in at fifteen, so Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Yep. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. I I Daniel: Hey, I got ⁓ at twelve, so ⁓ I'm not Not Last McGeee: I totally I totally agree with everything you said, but that doesn't mean his fantasy production will be low. If the team moves away from him, it's just because they want to save money. And what the what he produces a lot of other QBs in the NFL could do. But I think with e all the easy buttons he has, there's no reason for him not to produce in fantasy. Daniel: Rolling. Jonathan: I think certain schemes, like the Sean McVeigh scheme, you know what I mean? We talk about a lot. ⁓ you can replace a quarterback in that scheme and it's a it's a go to in that in in that. And then the Eagles, I think that's the scheme where you can replace that quarterback and anybody would do fine there. I don't I don't think Jalen Hurts is anything special in my personal opinion, but that's just me and I'm I consider myself a little quarterback guru, so I don't think anything special of him. And yeah. Daniel: Yeah. All right, an eleven I've got block Brock Purdy. I am the highest on Brock Purdy. I think when he's when he's healthy, he's a top ten quarterback. So let's give it to him. So Jonathan: See? That's a bad. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: And the addition of Mike Evans is pretty damn solid. Not Last McGeee: And he's got Mike Freakin' Evans. I I I wanted to keep putting him higher, but I just ⁓ yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm. The only thing that doesn't the only thing that stopped me from putting Brock Purdy 'cause I have him at thirteen. The only thing that stopped me from putting him higher is ⁓ George Kittle does not start the season. Daniel: But yes, I agree and that typically was something that had happened. But he has Mike Evans instead of George Kittle. Jonathan: Okay, but he's got Mike Evans and C ⁓ C and that's that's it in my opinion. Like per sale per sales there, but this kid Daniel: Instead of Mike Evans Yeah, in instead of Kittle and CMC though, right? So that doesn't so that doesn't hurt the production. And then he'll have all three at the end of the season. So but still same ballpark, you know? Not Last McGeee: I think that stretches the field and gives defenses a harder time. Yeah. And the new the the new medical update on Kittle is he'll be there by week two. Jonathan: Kittle blocks better than Evans. I don't know. Kittle blocks better than Evans. And I mean he catches better than him, so I don't know. Evans is was the fifty fifty ball drop guy, right? So I do love him. I'm not gonna miss that fifty fifty ball drop on him. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ yeah. All right. Yeah, as Buccaneers fans he I'm not gonna miss I'm not gonna miss those drops, but it yep. All right. Mario, who you got at eleven? Not Last McGeee: I have I have Kyler Murray here and it's another five It's it's it's another Kevin O'Connell offense and you're putting a capable person who has legs in there. Typically those people have always produced at QB eight to QB four rating, and I have Kyler Murray here down at eleven. So Jonathan: Holy moly Hey ⁓ So what you're saying, and I'm just gonna throw this out there, the last few quarterbacks that have gone through the Minnesota system and exited, Sam Darnold, all these others, ⁓ th they've come out better for their wares, right? And done better. So you're telling me that Kyler Murray is going to break his Call of Duty addiction and and and study football? Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. If you listen if you listen to the interviews of him and JJ McCarthy, JJ McCarthy I think is wearing on Kyler. And Kyler's actually like, I I'm gonna do this because this dude's pissing me off. And I think that's just enough for him to do it for one year. Jonathan: That makes no sense to me. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ See, you know. Daniel: I think they're gonna unleash him without any training wheels. I think they had the training wheels on him in Arizona and multiple quarterbacks have come off of that team and said, I learned how to be a professional football player in Minnesota. So, you know, if it's the time for Murray, it's the time for Murray. That would be fixing the call of duty stuff, having that learning how to be a professional football player. If he learns how to be a professional football player to the kind of level that they've all did, Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: That's what we have seen. Mm-hmm. Hey, we That's fucking huge. On his size, joke on everything else, he has the ability to be QB one in this league. He does. We've seen it. We've seen it. He has the ability. And they get players like Marvin Harrison and then ⁓ the rookie wide receiver next year. ⁓ they get him, ⁓ Smith. ⁓ they're gonna they're gonna Daniel: It would be huge. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Daniel: Jeremiah Smith. Jonathan: Yeah, they're gonna be a team to reckon with. So they're gonna they're gonna be something scary. ⁓ so yeah. ⁓ but but but ⁓ Kyler's not there, what am I saying? But Ky ⁓ Kyle Kyler w if he's better, yeah. He'll be a he'll be something to reckon with, I think if he like you say Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Minnesota is like the whispering team, right? They're coming out training and they Yeah. ⁓ something something something's in the water there. Daniel: Yep. All right. We've got number twelve, John. Jonathan: ⁓ Tyler Shoog. See, this is where I moved him down at ⁓ Baker and that's where you know, we rotated with Baker, so it was a heart it was a heart move. Heart move. Got to do it. ⁓ Daniel: I got Jalen Hurts at twelve. Mario? Jonathan: And Mario. Not Last McGeee: at twelve I have Jaden Daniels. I think we're gonna start seeing him progress from this point every year, doing better and better and better as his team is built around him better and better. But I think right now so many people are so young or so old on his team that this is just where it ends up because of opportunities. Jonathan: See All right. I like your next pick at thirteen. Not Last McGeee: Okay, my next one is Bonix. ⁓ bo Daniel: Go ahead. Jonathan: Mario? See, I wanted to put ⁓ higher on my list, but I have injury concerns with starting the season. This is just like I I I Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. But, you know. Not Last McGeee: I I I wanted to put him higher than this because of Jalen Waddle. Jalen Waddle's gonna open up a lot for him. Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm, yeah, yeah. It's called winning. Yes, it's called winning. Yeah. Yeah. It opened up a lot for them. Daniel: ⁓ Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. ⁓ thirteen I have ⁓ Baker Mayfield. ⁓ I just think he's gonna be solid. I he could be higher and he could be lower depending on injury. So ⁓ thirteen thirteen's a safe safe pick. All right, John. Jonathan: Good spot. Could be higher. That's a good spot. Hey, you bought your you bought your mouth. Yeah, it's a good pick. It's a good pick. Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy. Yeah, Brock Purdy. It's you know, ⁓ addition to Evans, this is where I thought he'd sit. He's you know, just on the fringe of a Q B one at thirteen, in a twelve man league, so Daniel: Brock party. Yeah. This is ⁓ like where those guys live. They're like they could definitely be like top guy top top five guys, but you're just not sure, you know. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. Mm-hmm. They're the fringe players, yeah. And and that's my next few players, is all these guys could be right there on the cusp of QB one, but they sit right here in the twelve to fifteen, twelve to sixteen range. So that's a lot of these players. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Yeah, I I look at who else is in his division and everything, and I'm like, yeah, Brock Burdy's fallen a little bit, but he's got Mike Evans, so it kinda put him in the next group for me at number fourteen. Daniel: All right. Jonathan: Okay, yeah. Daniel: Nice. I this is where I have and I am the lowest on Drake May. Jonathan: And speaking of the lowest, Trevor Lawrence. I am the lowest on Trevor Lawrence, yeah. No, this I think so. We had a spot where we were all the high on everybody and it was all lined up in the same spot and then we did all the lows. Check it out. I like it. Yeah. Daniel: I Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. That's alright. Now we're on the lowest side of things, that's right. And speaking of lowest, Mario is the lowest on Brock Purdy too, right? ⁓ alright. Mario on one that he's the highest on. Go ahead, Mario. Not Last McGeee: Yes. Yeah. ⁓ I'm way higher on this one. ⁓ Malik Willis, ⁓ I have here in ⁓ at number 15. And that's more of like what did Justin Fields do? What what did Justin Fields do in points? It wasn't because he was a great quarterback. He was running for his life, and he was hitting some awesome balls every now and then. And I think that's the kind of Jonathan: Evidently high. Yeah. Daniel: Hey yo. Not Last McGeee: season Malik Willis is gonna have. He doesn't really have a lot behind him. they're not really playing for anything, so they're just gonna let him go out there, do his thing, run his butt off, and hit some really super nice plays, and the rest of it's gonna be like, wow, that was kinda awful, but fantasy-wise, he's gonna put up some huge games and some terrible games. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Alright. ⁓ this whole row of fifteen, we're all the highest on these players out of all of us. So mine is ⁓ Jared Goff, you know, Timu Matthew Stafford. It's just straight up. Jonathan: Interesting. Not Last McGeee: ⁓ ouais. Jonathan: ⁓ I I'm nine. Nine, buddy. Nine, buddy. I was big higher. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: John had him at nine. Daniel: ⁓ my bad. All right. You are way higher on golf. So high that it wasn't even in my screen anymore. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah. Way higher. ⁓ yeah. I think ⁓ Cam Ward. Cam Ward. And I do think ⁓ they will turn things around, ⁓ bringing in ⁓ Robert Saylor and I think they're just they're gonna turn things around and build around this young kid and he's gonna be something special for Tennessee. So Daniel: Nice. All right, John, go ahead. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. I I think he's gonna do so much better this year. Daniel: Yeah. I'm higher on him than I am Jackson Dart. Not Last McGeee: Same here. Daniel: For sure. Jonathan: Yeah, I am as well. Yes. I get Dart is bottom of my list, but yeah. Not yeah. Yeah. Daniel: Yep. I ⁓ I like Cam Ward. I think he showed out the end of last year. I'm actually pretty excited about him. I'm just reserved because that team still has a lot of building to do. And Sala's track record at the Jets wasn't very well. But I also like the fact that that Dayball is there too. So I'm I like n him. I just Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: I think it was just the Jets maybe. So Yeah. Daniel: Yeah, it could it could definitely be that. All right. ⁓ let's see. This is w at sixteen, this is where I have Kyler Murray. ⁓ Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Hey. That's ⁓ you're the middle guy here, 'cause ⁓ Daniel: Middle guy and then ⁓ Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: And it's a good gap. It's a good gap both ways. You're closer to me than I we are to Mario. But yeah, okay. ⁓ Mario. Mario. Lowest on Not Last McGeee: This is where I finally have Baker Mayfield. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, lowest on Baker, man. Interesting. That's okay, that's all right. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. And this this is just the the improvements throughout our division and ⁓ different things going on there that ⁓ I just have him scoring around what he has been. And like I said, because of the changes to the NFL and different things of different weapons everyone else got, I just have them scoring more points. So that kind of dropped him to where he is here. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Definitely spot. ⁓ my, we're at forty minutes. We haven't even touched fucking Rogers. ⁓ my god. Number sixteen. Alright, seventeen. I have Patrick Mahomes. And look at that. We are all consistent. Patrick Mahomes at number seventeen. Daniel: Excuse me. Yeah, we'll finish this up and receivers next week. Let's do this. All right. I'm trying to help us move forward a little bit here. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. There you go. Jonathan: What do you think of that? Okay. Yeah, I mean it sounds about right. Gonna have ⁓ your your wide receiver one, you don't know if he's gonna be starting the season, having suspended or who knows? ⁓ in jail. Fuck, who knows? I mean he's in jail right now with his knee, right? So, you know. Daniel: Yeah. What would be that's ⁓ h where would Patrick Mahomes score without his scrambling and and without being able to run behind and make that Mahomes magic happen? He'd be a low end quarterback number two. That's exactly where I have him here. 'Cause he's not gonna be doing what he did normally with recovering from that ECL this s entire season. But he could be healthy by the time the playoffs roll around, right? So you know, yeah. Jonathan: Well Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: No. No, and then Mm. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, and they they got Kenneth Walker and they got rid of Juwan Taylor for a reason. They wanna make sure that he's comfortable in the pocket and so his line will be better and he's got a better outlet to dink for the running back. And you know, with with with all that ⁓ with all that being said, I think he's he's gonna do well 'cause he's Patrick Mahomes, he's gonna Jonathan: Gotta have the L. Daniel: ⁓ God. He broke my knee, fire him. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Do some awesome things but ⁓ yeah, I put ⁓ right here. Daniel: That's so funny. All right. ⁓ one guy that I am the highest on. As a matter of fact, I think he's I'm the only one that has him on our list for top twenty-two. Jonathan: Yes. You were the only one. Daniel: Yeah. Sam Darnold Sam Darnold. I you know, I'm s I'm starting to drink the tea a little bit. We'll find out this year. I do like the things that he's been saying about his own mental health and his journey and his confidence that could make a huge difference 'cause he's always had the tools. And so I I think I'm I'm I'm starting to drink the tea a little bit with for Sam Darnold, maybe to my own detriment. Jonathan: ⁓ it's ⁓ I am two but no so here's the to my own detriment, I just these couple la next couple names ⁓ they were like they were so good that I could not have them on the list which pushed him down off of it. And that's no detriment to him, it's just I these next couple names really need to be on it. So ⁓ I have George Love at eighteen and I again I just he's got a good team around him Daniel: Not all yeah. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Right. Yeah. Jonathan: Christian Watson can stay healthy then I mean th like they're gonna be good, right? Bringing in ⁓ bringing in Alvin Kamara Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yep. Good place for him. I I think he definitely has the potential to be even higher on the list there if he takes a step forward and actually has some viable receivers. If Christian Watson plays like he should have been playing all along, y you know, Jordan Liv might be higher on this list in general. Jonathan: I don't know. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. If Christian Watson Watson is healthy, that's that's all it would take to bump him up. Jonathan: Okay, here's the lowest Number nineteen. We are the lowest on these players. So Mario go Not Last McGeee: I and I had Cam Ward there at eighteen. finally got him in the mix. Jonathan: Okay, okay, you know, at eighteen sorry, apologize. ⁓ you in nineteen you are the lowest on your cross. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jared Goff. Yep. I am. I think the Lions are still great. I think he's ⁓ fixed his whole dome narrative. And I think the Lions defense will be better. And I think Dan Campbell's gonna try to do things smart, less aggressive, ⁓ but s just smart play to wins, and bomb Jameson Williams. Yeah, we'll we'll see what happens. Yeah, that could that could put Goff anywhere on this list. But I I went safe with it. Daniel: Less aggressive. Jonathan: Yeah. All right, all right. ⁓ Daniel Lois on Daniel: Alright. Have you seen his leg? I am the lowest on Bo Nicks. Not Last McGeee: No ⁓ Jonathan: No. And I'm not gonna look because it'll change my opinion, so as the resident lake issue guy, so Daniel: I I have been scared away. I am worried about this individual on how he's going to be able to throw. So, ⁓ Jonathan: Yeah. Damn it, I don't wanna hear that. Don't tell me that. Don't tell me that. ⁓ man, I like I like Bonex and the addition of Jan and Waddle. Damn it ⁓ Daniel: I don't I hope better for him. I that they're saying it is a you know because he had like an infection afterwards and like it it it's like Alex Smith light, which is still really bad. and I've seen pictures of it and it's like that doesn't look like a good leg anymore. Not Last McGeee: I I don't think he's the quarterback of the future there. Jonathan: Yeah, man, that sucks. Well Not Last McGeee: I Jonathan: No Daniel: How is he supposed to be planting and twisting and doing what he needs to generate power off of that leg? ⁓ so I saw that and I'm like so Not Last McGeee: Thank you. Jonathan: ⁓ that's bad news. That's like ⁓ fire in the room. We're good. I'm fine. I'm fine. Yeah. I'm fine. Yeah. Well shit. Well that's bad. Okay, well I'm the lowest on Kyler Murray and we all know why. It's Call of Duty, it's this dude's laziness. Absolute laziness. And I know the motherfucker can go number one and it's just you know you could do better. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah, yeah. I'll be okay. Just cut it off. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Shame on you. And you know, fuck you, you're at nineteen, so ⁓ all right, bring it around the twenties. Wow, Mario, okay. You and me, consensus here on Matthew Stafford. Check us out. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Doof disrespect. Not Last McGeee: Matthew Stafford cannot not be a top twenty quarterback, no matter what happens. So Jonathan: No, and that's the thing is I had Darnold here and I went, ⁓ well, Stafford's gotta be on this list. When I heard Stafford at six, I'm like, Holy shit, Stafford's not on my list. Wait, you need to be on this list and I threw him at twenty. So it was disrespect, yeah. Yeah, w it wasn't disrespect, it was just, man, I had some names on here that good and deserved to be here and I don't have a penciled high this year. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. He's he's just not that shiny player you don't think about. That's absol absolutely true. ⁓ I have Jordan Love here. I I am hedging my bets. I think that he's talented and I'm hoping that he finally gets some help in this year. That should be good for him. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah, yep, salt pick. Okay, twenty-one. Twenty one rounds us out. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Whoa. All right, this is where I have Cam Ward. Jonathan: Like a good cause see, Cam Ward's on your list. It's good that you got him on your list. He needs to be on someone's list, but you are the lowest on him. ⁓ Gino Smith Mario. I what's in the water where you're at right now? I gotta know, dude. Are you okay? I've seen some names on your list that really make me question you're drinking something other than water. I guess I gotta know. That's old. Daniel: Yeah. I am the lowest. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. De definitely. ⁓ yeah. I I think No, well here's the thing is we always have we always have quarterbacks that aren't performing at top twenty level, but in fantasy, they're there. Daniel: That's a bold one. Jonathan: You would have been better off throwing fucking Fernando Mendoza here at twenty one. Not Last McGeee: No, I think ⁓ I think this could this coming year's Jets Daniel: Good things. Good things. Jonathan: That's just saying You would have been better off throwing that motherfucker at this spot. Gino Smith going back to New York. In New York, ⁓ man. Not Last McGeee: That's that's that's not a terrible take. That's not a terrible take. Daniel: I know. He's saying it as a joke and you and I are like, Meh, we like it. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, I f Fernando Mendoza might, you know, with that with that so what what did Ku Kubiac do for Sam Darnold? Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. No, I see I'm I'm not saying it as a joke. I'm saying I'd rather I I'd rather see if you're putting names there, I'd rather see Fernando Mendoza at twenty-one above Geno Smith on his list. That's my point. I got early or Geno Smith at twenty one. I'm just grossed out. That's all. It's yeah. I'm gonna ask the vomit button. Daniel: ⁓ Not Last McGeee: I I think the Jets this year are much better than the Raiders last year for an environment for a quarterback. And Jonathan: ⁓ barf off screen, you're saying Jetsy. Daniel: I I agree one hundred percent. They were he was set up to fail last year. And the last three years before last year, he actually was a viable fantasy quarterback. I'm surprised to see him on the list because of what happened for last year, but I don't disagree with your point. I think that's a very good point. I think coaching matters for everything that in the NFL. Jonathan: Yeah, well Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: I think coaching matters for Gino though. I think coaching Absolutely. But they didn't have they yeah, they were stacked to fail in New York. Or yeah. Well in Las Vegas. Well they wanted the pick. They wanted the pick in Vegas. I mean, let's see, bring it in peak Carroll, come on. One year deal, B Carroll, which is really fine. Daniel: Dude. In Las Vegas. Not Last McGeee: So he so with with as awful as it was in Vegas last year So ge Geno Smith finished as the QB twenty two last year. Jonathan: Just saying, just saying. Okay. Not Last McGeee: So, I moved him up one spot knowing he's gonna be in a much better situation. Daniel: No It's just the jets and makes John vomit. Jonathan: Much Much Yeah, it's much Using these big words like much better. I ow ⁓ god, much better. I don't know about that. Yeah, it's not positive than Jets. ⁓ we're gonna get a bad letter written in at the fucking show about it. Not Last McGeee: Much much better. ⁓ no, cause c ev everyone keeps sweeping under the rug. They They they keep sweeping under the rug that Chip Kelly never even handed out his plays. Geno Smith was flying blind out there, and ⁓ and he still made it to QB twenty-two. Daniel: No positive adjectives for jets. Jonathan: You know Smith is blind, but that's how I see him. Someone's gonna sucker punch him in his locker room 'cause he's cheap, so Daniel: I like this. You know, I I'm I'm hearing waterbit levels of disagreement here. Jonathan: Yeah, it's been a while since we've done one of those. Ooh, it's been a while since we've done one of those. Okay. Yeah, I mean I could get on board with that. I can get on board with that. Not Last McGeee: ⁓ yeah Let's do it Daniel: I All right, so let's see. Terms for the water bet. Geno Smith will be a top fifteen quarterback or not. Jonathan: Ooh, no not Wow. Not Last McGeee: Ooh, fifteen you said. Daniel: Marit? Or do you say top twenty? Where do we go? Twenty? Not Last McGeee: I say top twenty. Top twenty. I can I can do a water bet for top twenty. Jonathan: Twenty. And I still say no. And I still say no. Twenty. Jeez God, no. No. Daniel: No Okay. All right. Now we need to make a note of this in the dock because Geno Smith ⁓ Jonathan: Yeah, a water bed was nice. Yeah, absolutely. Daniel: I will work on that. And we will see how that pays out. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ tr I need a like this is the way. I need a this is the way drop. I totally do. For when we make water beds, this is the way. Yeah, well I I need one of those. Okay, I'll have to do that later. Alright, ⁓ let's round this out. We'll finish our quarterbacks off. Twenty one. ⁓ Daniel, you had Cam Ward, Gino Smith, and I have Daniel Jones. Cause I really needed to like not throw shade at this man and i i and he needed to be on the list because Not Last McGeee: Ha ha ha ha. Jonathan: I mean he did phenomenal last year until he got hurt. So injury issues. Please come back week one for them. It says he's slated to come back week one for them. So as long as things stay on par, I think he'll be fine. And this kid he's gonna be phenomenal this year. Just you know, Jonathan Taylor doing Jonathan Taylor things behind that line. Yeah. Everyone yeah, yeah. Yep. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Yeah. His top targets are still there. Jonathan Taylor's healthy. There's no reason for him not to be a top twenty. And for us to have him just outside a top twenty, I think is more than safe. I have him as my last QB on the list at twenty-two. And I I think same thing. Him and Geno Smith, you know, should definitely be up there. Ha ha ha. Jonathan: Danny Dives is back. Absolutely good. All right. ⁓ Yeah, ⁓ I'm gonna do all right. Daniel: John just sighed. Jonathan: Doing it. Not Last McGeee: Ha ha ha. Jonathan: Doing it. And I'm taking off I'm taking off Jackson Dart to do so. Cause you know what? Yeah, injury concerns, the whole the whole neighbors is gone. He ain't gonna be in the fucking top twenty of nothing. So Fernando Mendoza twenty two. Here it is. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Fernando Mendoza. I love it. I love it. Good job, Daniel. Yeah. Cheers. Fernando Mendoza for sure. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. I did the same thing. Not Last McGeee: No. Dart Dart won't be. Daniel: Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's right. And Mario's got Daniel Jones here at twenty two. Daniel Jones did not make that list, but it it that also doesn't make sense when you look up my receiver rankings. So you know, just justify that, I don't know. Jonathan: Yeah, just just doesn't like I look into some of my rankings and going, Wait, I'm that doesn't line up. That doesn't track. How is he higher and he's lower on that? Wait a minute. I gotta do something better in my fucking rankings. We need people to listen to us. Guys, don't don't stop listening to us. We're we're geniuses. We're not idiots, okay? Even though it sounds like we're fucking idiots. ⁓ okay, so we are at an hour. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Mm. ⁓ Not Last McGeee: Ha ha ha Daniel: Mm-hmm. Yes. Not Last McGeee: N numbers don't lie. Jonathan: Well, do you guys want to push wide wide receivers in next week and we'll just do a whole wide receiver show and we can even add a couple there. ⁓ my god, we can add more. Daniel: I think ⁓ yeah, 'cause we're gonna it's gonna be an hour of talking through twenty five wide receivers at least, so yeah. Let's let's make sure we ⁓ take care of that next week. Not Last McGeee: It's sh Jonathan: It'd be shit show. Absolutely. It's gonna be a shit show. Yeah, fuck yeah, it'll be a shit show. Okay. So, ⁓ right into the show, yeah, we'll push wide or we're gonna push ⁓ wide receivers to next week. So right into the show, FFWC two three at gmail dot com. ⁓ check out our website, the fantasy footballers war council, ⁓ dot riverside dot com or any of our social medias, Facebook, Instagram X, ⁓ YouTube, chat, I can't remember where we all are. We're everywhere. It's on our website. Go check it out. ⁓ like, review, rate, subscribe, subscribe. Hey, we have a newsletter, but you gotta subscribe to the show on the website to get the newsletter. But we got a newsletter. So, you know, ⁓ check us out. And as always, hey, I'm you know, yeah, yeah, keep going. Do your homework, yeah. I like that. It is overtime. Daniel: Keep conquering. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Do your homework. Due diligence. It is homework time. Not Last McGeee: That's right. Jonathan: It's homework time. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. Daniel: Ha ha ha. Not Last McGeee: Yeah.