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Birdemic: We are all James · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Greg Sestero, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: Leave your stupid comments in your pocket.
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  Speaker 2: Movie Meltdown It's showtime.
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  Speaker 3: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 3: Picture Association of America.
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  Speaker 1: It is intended for mature audiences and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 4: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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  Speaker 5: Kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 6: To provide more cooling in the containment chamber.
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  Speaker 7: To your stations, we have a rebound.
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  Speaker 1: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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  Speaker 1: I have no bird. I have no bush. God has
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  Speaker 1: taken my bird and my bush.
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  Speaker 7: I liked it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just fucking time consuming.
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  Speaker 8: It is.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't do it and do this anymore.
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  Speaker 9: I was like, one or the other.
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  Speaker 1: This takes as much time too.
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  Speaker 10: And that is the difference between amateur and pro, honestly,
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  Speaker 10: is the amount of editing that you're willing to do.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and that you... have time to do because you
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  Speaker 1: have the money coming in to do it like if
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  Speaker 1: you're a professional filmmaker you don't have to go to
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  Speaker 1: work every day so you can devote 12 hours to
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  Speaker 1: sitting in front of your computer if that's what you
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  Speaker 1: choose to do for the.
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  Speaker 10: Day but well the equation is and I don't know
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  Speaker 10: why we're not recording this because this is.
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  Speaker 1: Gold it might be on right now the equation is
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  Speaker 1: what is it money time monkeys Yes. Pretty sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: It's money, time, and monkeys.
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  Speaker 9: Pick two.
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  Speaker 1: Pick two. Money, time, or monkeys. Now, again, if we're
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  Speaker 1: going spider, anyone you get tail action, that's an extra
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  Speaker 1: prehensile action. You can make use of that. I think
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  Speaker 1: definitely monkeys. So, you're definitely going to go monkeys, especially
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  Speaker 1: if you got the tail that works its way in there.
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  Speaker 5: But if you didn't have money and time, you could
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  Speaker 5: get enough monkeys that could write Every Shakespeare novel, right?
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  Speaker 11: Is that where we're going?
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  Speaker 1: So you could actually exclude the monkeys altogether. You just
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  Speaker 1: say money and time.
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  Speaker 11: And then you just get monkeys.
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  Speaker 1: Boom shakalaka, you're made. If you got enough monkeys, you'll
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  Speaker 1: always get the money. That's also a possibility. If you
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  Speaker 1: have time and monkeys, eventually you will.
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  Speaker 9: Write the best script ever. You'll get money.
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  Speaker 1: And then millions will come flowing in. Or at least
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  Speaker 1: Transformers 3. 2. Two is even more offensive than three.
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  Speaker 2: Is it?
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  Speaker 6: It really is.
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  Speaker 5: I've never seen them.
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  Speaker 1: It really... I don't even... I didn't... I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: make it through two. It was on, like... I think
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  Speaker 1: I saw two. It was on, like, Made for Cable channel,
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  Speaker 1: and it was probably edited, and they left all offensive
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  Speaker 1: stuff in.
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  Speaker 9: And, like, I still.
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  Speaker 1: Like, it was just on someone else's house, and I
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  Speaker 1: was watching it going, oh, my God. Like, this is atrocious.
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  Speaker 1: How is Michael Green still standing? People like dumb stuff.
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  Speaker 1: That's the world we live in.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I mean, you know, if I'm going to go
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  Speaker 11: see a movie, I want to see stuff blow up.
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  Speaker 1: I love those stuff. I don't want something touching. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but see, it's different. I like that at home. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just explosions because, I mean, granted, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I love watching things ignite. Are we on? Would you
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  Speaker 1: like to officially get rolling?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I was going to say, if we're on, we
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  Speaker 5: can say this brings us to the point of things
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  Speaker 5: that explode in movies.
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  Speaker 1: And you like things that explode.
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  Speaker 5: But I thought that exploding birds in Birdemic was.
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  Speaker 11: A bit worse.
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  Speaker 9: We haven't gotten there yet. They weren't exploding.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there were some that exploded. We'll get to that
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  Speaker 1: because I have some questions about that, by the way.
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  Speaker 10: My point with Transformers was that it wasn't just that
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  Speaker 10: they exploded or that there were explosions.
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  Speaker 1: They transformed. They transformed. but that that was not enough
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  Speaker 1: to keep me engaged the fact that there were explosions
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  Speaker 1: and cars transformed into robots still was not enough to
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  Speaker 1: keep me engaged that is the mark of an incredibly
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  Speaker 1: bad film The LaBeouf? The LaBeouf didn't do it for you?
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  Speaker 1: He didn't rope you in with his LaBeoufiness?
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  Speaker 9: He didn't do that in the Indiana Jones film either.
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  Speaker 1: Oh God, that was terrible. In the Crystal Skull thing.
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  Speaker 1: The Crystal Skull main. Yeah, yeah. He had quite a
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  Speaker 1: run there.
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  Speaker 5: I wish I could like fall and hit my head
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  Speaker 5: in the brain, the area of my brain that would
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  Speaker 5: make me forget that movie.
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  Speaker 1: Just that. There's moments in it I don't hate. I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to look on the good side. There was times
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  Speaker 1: when I was like, There's a little of that feeling again.
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  Speaker 1: I see it. It's like it would start. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it had a good start. I feel like they
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  Speaker 1: went too far with it. Like there were Nazis and
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  Speaker 1: there was a chase scene.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: And there was like a rope. Rope whip.
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  Speaker 1: Rope i think if they didn't if they didn't deliver
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  Speaker 1: on that like if because everybody went oh fucking aliens
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  Speaker 1: so i'm like what if we just got that tease
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning and then that was it like we
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  Speaker 1: get to the him running around trying to get a
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  Speaker 1: box out of this warehouse or something and in the
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  Speaker 1: end we pull back and it's area 51 you're like
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  Speaker 1: oh shit and he was involved in area 51 and
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  Speaker 1: like that's it They never expand on it, like nothing
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  Speaker 1: else ever comes of it, and there aren't any other
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  Speaker 1: weird alien tie-ins.
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  Speaker 11: So then what would the third one have been about?
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  Speaker 1: The third one, well, I mean, if you think about it,
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  Speaker 1: with the exception, those first two, the stuff that goes
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  Speaker 1: on in that little pre-credit teaser is entirely different than
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the plot. The third one has its
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  Speaker 1: weird flashback, and we get young Indy because we want
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  Speaker 1: that to tie in later. But those first two, it's
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  Speaker 1: like an entirely different adventure we come in on. We
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  Speaker 1: kind of watch the end of it, and then we're like... Oh,
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  Speaker 1: and now on to this new thing. So it's like,
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  Speaker 1: why would four have not been okay to do that? So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it would be interesting if we
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  Speaker 1: just went a little bit of an alien tease and
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  Speaker 1: then be like, but we don't.
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  Speaker 9: Know what was going on. Why don't we rewrite the
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  Speaker 9: fourth Indiana Jones film?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, what would have been your fourth?
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  Speaker 1: We can do that. Where would you have.
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  Speaker 5: Wanted to see it go? Like, there's a whole Spear
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  Speaker 5: of Destiny, but by that time it's the 60s.
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  Speaker 1: Spear of Destiny, right. You're getting into these Christian... It
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  Speaker 1: was always kind of Christian-y, though. I mean, two out
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  Speaker 1: of three are Christian things he's looking for. Well, that
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  Speaker 1: was the thing. And those two were the successful ones.
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  Speaker 1: The second one... It's pretty damn fun. It's ridiculous, but
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty damn fun. Ridiculous, yes. It's very ridiculous.
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  Speaker 8: That is true.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's the thing. People bitch about the fourth one
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  Speaker 1: because all these crazy over-the-top things.
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  Speaker 11: But Temple of Doom was totally over-the-top.
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  Speaker 1: Why couldn't you revisit the Ark of the Covenant at
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  Speaker 1: Area 51? And it ignites a whole... So the aliens
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  Speaker 1: brought us the Ten Commandments, and then that's going to
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  Speaker 1: piss off some religious fanatics. There you go.
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  Speaker 9: There you have it. God is an alien.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my lord, what did you just say? A lady alien.
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  Speaker 9: Ooh, that's really going to piss people off.
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  Speaker 1: Pushing the envelope.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 11: Where would you go with it?
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  Speaker 1: The thing is, they had so many other good stories
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  Speaker 1: already out there that I don't know them all. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that they pulled from any of them. I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming that was all original. But like, I remember as
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  Speaker 1: a kid, I got right on board with the Marvel
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  Speaker 1: run of comics. And like, there were some really cool
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  Speaker 1: stories in those. And I'm like, I didn't.
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  Speaker 11: Even know there were Indiana Jones comics, really.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, like after Raiders.
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  Speaker 1: Like early on, they just immediately went, this works. All right,
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  Speaker 1: so Marvel picked them up and they did a whole...
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  Speaker 1: Several years worth of stories.
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  Speaker 6: That's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 9: I actually like to read those. Why did they wrangle
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  Speaker 9: in those writers?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I'm like, they're right there.
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  Speaker 1: Storyboarded for you already. Just make these movies.
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  Speaker 9: George Lucas had them all killed.
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  Speaker 1: Probably. He's like, I'm busy with my room full of
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  Speaker 1: monkeys making this other screenplay. Don't you worry. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to have aliens.
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  Speaker 9: Monkeys plus money equals victory.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be great. It'd equal Star Wars. The prequels. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the prequels. Let me be clear here. Just the prequels.
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  Speaker 1: Just the prequels. Horse Moments in special edition.
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  Speaker 11: You know, so we went to.
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  Speaker 1: See Rogue One.
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  Speaker 12: All right.
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  Speaker 5: And I begrudgingly went because I feel like X-Files, I've
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  Speaker 5: been burned so many times that I was like, don't care.
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  Speaker 11: Don't care.
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  Speaker 1: The second movie wasn't their fault, man.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 1: I only heard that recently.
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  Speaker 5: I actually thought it was really phenomenal and loved it.
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  Speaker 1: I did too. Rogue One. We're back on Rogue One, right?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I liked Rogue One. We didn't get to talk
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  Speaker 11: about this yet.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't. You weren't there at the special Rogue One
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  Speaker 1: holiday event that we had. It was an event.
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  Speaker 5: Did you like it?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what did you think?
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  Speaker 9: I liked it.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody died.
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  Speaker 9: Spoiler alert.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. You ruined it now.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody died.
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  Speaker 9: I actually just revisited it.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to. I thought it was good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing because it's so its own thing,
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  Speaker 1: and it's so... not part of the series so it
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  Speaker 1: can do its own thing and can bring in its
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  Speaker 1: own characters it can kill people if it wants like
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  Speaker 1: you can't really do that like one through three you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't do that like gee i wonder if obi-wan's gonna
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  Speaker 1: die in this scene no guess what he's not he's
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  Speaker 1: in three more movies like all right maybe one but
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  Speaker 1: like we know where he turns up later so it's
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  Speaker 1: like there's a lot of the like tension that's not
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  Speaker 1: there in one through three because several of those characters
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  Speaker 1: we know what happens to so Rogue One it's like
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  Speaker 1: you really don't know what's gonna happen and guess what
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  Speaker 1: happens so like it's kind of amazing that they have
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  Speaker 1: that kind of freedom and they're that they're that detached
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  Speaker 1: from the series and while on the other hand and
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  Speaker 1: sort of the backside of the same hand it is
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  Speaker 1: so jammed in the middle of episode four it's amazing
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  Speaker 1: like the fact that so many tie-ins and so many
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  Speaker 1: like and a few hours later this happens called episode
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  Speaker 1: four like it's so directly connected and yet It's so
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  Speaker 1: its own thing. It's kind of amazing.
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  Speaker 11: Which I thought was totally genius.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they did a phenomenal job. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: amazing that they made all that work. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: the folks behind the curtain making episode four, five, and
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  Speaker 1: six occur. Yeah. Because you always wonder. A total tragedy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, from the time when we were kids, because we're old.
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  Speaker 5: And you sit down and you see that ship pass
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  Speaker 5: overhead in the scroll.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, what happened?
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  Speaker 11: How did we get here? And then to realize.
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  Speaker 1: You had to put all your faith and trust in
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  Speaker 1: the scroll.
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  Speaker 11: Right, you did.
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  Speaker 1: It told me all I need to know.
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  Speaker 11: But then to realize as a.
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  Speaker 5: Grown-up, which it was pretty cool to realize that it
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  Speaker 5: was hours later that that's where it picks up.
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  Speaker 11: Because in your head.
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  Speaker 5: You're like, was it a month?
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  Speaker 1: Was it a week? Was it a couple days?
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  Speaker 11: But really it was hours later.
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  Speaker 1: It had to be pretty quick because Darth leaves to
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  Speaker 1: go get that ship that he ends up on. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. People died. I did bring this up
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  Speaker 1: on the special holiday fun that we had, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to get your opinion on it. Does it make
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  Speaker 1: it a little less of a thing at the end
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  Speaker 1: of episode four now that we already saw all this
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  Speaker 1: other stuff that happened the day before?
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  Speaker 9: Like, all these other peoples.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I was watching it again this past week, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that entire giant space battle at the end
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  Speaker 1: of Rogue One... it's not really less impressive than what's
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  Speaker 1: in episode four. So I'm like, does that take away
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  Speaker 1: from the amazing fanfare that was episode four? Now that like,
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  Speaker 1: we know the day before all these other people died
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  Speaker 1: to make this happen.
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  Speaker 11: Like they're terrible, tragic.
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  Speaker 1: All this.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: This is amazing. And that's the thing. I was like the,
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they enter that, um, once again, the, the,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell is that? The hammerhead Corvette. that scene
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  Speaker 1: is so amazing i'm like well now you've also come
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  Speaker 1: up with the idea that like why didn't we do
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  Speaker 1: that again the next day why were we letting those
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  Speaker 1: ships kick our ass the following day did we break
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  Speaker 1: our hammerhead corvette like i don't know i was just
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  Speaker 1: like but that scene is so amazing that then watching
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  Speaker 1: it the next day you're like oh well we just
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  Speaker 1: had that other cool thing happen too you know like
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  Speaker 1: does it take away a little bit from what goes
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  Speaker 1: on at the end of episode four Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: And I mean, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Take that, George Lucas. We just fucked up your movie.
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  Speaker 6: It does.
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  Speaker 5: And like her whole, you know, the tragedy of losing
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  Speaker 5: her father or whatever. It's kind of like, as a woman,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that was more poignant to me than Luke
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  Speaker 5: whining about his Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru.
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  Speaker 1: I like Luke. I've come full circle. I think Luke's
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  Speaker 1: kind of.
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  Speaker 5: A badass character. Actually, Luke is pretty cool now. Now,
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  Speaker 5: in the new ones, that was my favorite part of whatever.
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  Speaker 11: See, I didn't like it as much. What's the other one?
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  Speaker 1: Episode 7?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Force Awakens? The Force Awakens.
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  Speaker 11: I'm okay with it. It was pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: See, my take was, again, on that episode, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm probably going to revisit Force Awakens
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  Speaker 1: more because I think it's more fun. I think those
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  Speaker 1: two are great. Their new characters are great characters. I
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  Speaker 1: love the way they work together. I'm probably going to
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: want to revisit that more where Rogue One is a
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  Speaker 1: good movie.
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  Speaker 9: But it's pretty grim.
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  Speaker 1: Even in the beginning.
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  Speaker 9: I have a feeling, though, that Force Awakens.
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  Speaker 10: Will be more interesting in context with the one that's
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  Speaker 10: coming out this december.
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  Speaker 5: But it did i'm with you it brought me full
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  Speaker 5: circle like thinking luke was pretty cool again i'm like
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  Speaker 5: luke's kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Well luke's gonna be even cooler yeah i think in
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  Speaker 1: general like it was one of those it got fun
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  Speaker 1: to kind of it got popular to kind of make
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  Speaker 1: fun of his whininess especially in that first movie which
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  Speaker 1: he is i'll give you but at the same time
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  Speaker 1: he's just at the same time like he's also like
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  Speaker 1: this nobody kid from a desert planet that within the
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  Speaker 1: span of because time has no meaning in the star
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  Speaker 1: wars universe so we really don't know what the.
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  Speaker 5: Until well until now because now we start to have
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  Speaker 5: like well that one.
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  Speaker 1: But i'm saying like the stuff that goes on like
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  Speaker 1: when they get on a ship how long is it
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  Speaker 1: we don't ever really know like is it really the
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: two minutes that we spent on this other scene on
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  Speaker 1: the death star or is it been two weeks you
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: know it's like You can't tell when you watch Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars what the time periods in between scene to scene are.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Time is space. Yeah, I mean, like, so... You know what?
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  Speaker 5: We're all a little short for stormtroopers here.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: The hell you say? Just saying. I've been hanging by
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  Speaker 1: my ankles for weeks.
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  Speaker 9: I'm going to make it.
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  Speaker 1: You just wait. Except for that one guy that hit
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  Speaker 1: his head. Then you'll be glad you're a little short.
• 14:57
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  Speaker 1: That's not the appropriate area.
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  Speaker 6: No, it's not.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: It's not recommended. Just stick it in the sink.
• 15:28
  Speaker 9: Now it's touched plastic.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so. That's That's carcinogenic.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I can't use that. It's BAP-free.
• 15:37
  Speaker 9: But it's loaded with.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: BAPs. BAPs?
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: BAPs.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Like Black American Princesses? Your favorite movie? Are you naming
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: your favorite movie of all time? BAPs? I knew it.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: and we're.
• 16:05
  Speaker 14: Back thanks for hanging around yeah where were we star wars.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Probably introducing ourselves uh yeah yeah yeah what's up and
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: welcome to movie meltdown i am brian Joining me this
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: week are.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: You go first.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: What is my name?
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: Paul.
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: Paul.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I'm Paul. I'm Gina.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: And you've... Technically, you've both been on the show before.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Have I been on the show before? I was thinking
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: today you were as well. Oh, I have. It took.
• 16:40
  Speaker 9: You have?
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I have photo evidence that I think you took. I
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: think you selfie'd it. Anyway.
• 16:45
  Speaker 11: I'm so old it was probably the first selfie.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: No, you're not Thelma and or Louise. Somebody back me
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: up on that. Is that the first time we see
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: a selfie in cinema?
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: In something?
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Thelma and Louise?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: No, surely not. Well, I'm trying to think, though.
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: No.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: We're sidebar here, but when did we first see someone
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: take a picture of themselves, specifically, I guess, in a movie?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Because that's the first time I kind of knee-jerk remember
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: seeing it.
• 17:13
  Speaker 9: Can you Google box that? So Susan Sarandon might.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Well, I was really going to work on my public
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: radio voice for this tonight.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody likes that. I really wanted to have a
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: public radio voice. Public radio is useless. Podcast is where
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: it's at, man. So anyway, you have been because it
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: was the same weekend. Because all those other weirdos you
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: used to hang out with have been on the show
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: a lot. But the only time you crossed over, Paul...
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: was when you were laying on the floor in the
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: middle of Winterfest. Oh, yeah, and he fell asleep. Actually,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: that's the cover shot of that episode is you on
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the floor going, no, no more. You know, I thought
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: he was dead.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I thought I had lost my husband. No, he was
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: babbling at that point. The babble came full effect at
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: that point. There was a point where.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: He wouldn't budge, and I thought I was going to
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: leave with a Cylon that would.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Be replacing you.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: So, whoo.
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: If you go back.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: An owl's Cylon.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Dedicated listeners. If you want to go back about three
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: years now, I think it is.
• 18:12
  Speaker 11: Was I on that one?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: And you were not on that one. But that same weekend,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: we did many episodes with different guests. And one of them,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: there's a segment. that some crackhead was hanging out at
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the table, and I'm like, here, hold this mic. So
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: there's a good segment of you and I babbling on
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: about movies and some sort of nonsense.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: You know, we always end up babbling about movies.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: That's why I started this show.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: That's what I do anyway.
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: He directs all conversation towards movies.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: But I kind of do that in the real world.
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: Like, it's not the show.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: It's a conspiracy.
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: I just made it the show because I was already
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: doing it anyway.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Like, as a grown-up. Well, that's smart.
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: You're a tax business person.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Functional, if nothing else. Taxes.
• 18:48
  Speaker 11: It goes back to taxes.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, like, I realize as a grown-up that I
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: probably shouldn't think there's a Simpsons quote for everything. So
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: I've really been able to, like, tune that in, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: dial it back, but I still in my head think
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: there's a Simpsons quote for everything.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You're probably right. I mean, it's been on for, like,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: 35 years. Yeah, it's kind of true. It also works
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: with Seinfeld.
• 19:08
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but the Simpsons ones are usually more charming.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to, but those are like
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: TV people. So if we're bringing it back to movies,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you can always work in like a Yoda quote for everything.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: There's clinking glasses.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: But anyway. Anyway. You have both been on the show before,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: but this is your first official like co-hosting segment. So,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you know. For an actual episode.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: And you know, I'm totally worried that I don't have
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: enough things to say.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's bullshit. I know you. You always have shit
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to say. I'm a wallflower. I know her too.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I'm married to her and I know that she has
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: enough things to say. I tried to talk you out
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: of it, but you didn't listen. I've known both of
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you for quite a while. I've known... Paul in passing
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: for more years than I want to think about, actually.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: That's true. Really? It's a long time. This is actually
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: not the first time I've been to your home. We
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: are recording live from Paul and Gina's house. Kitchen. But no,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a long time ago, I went to an apartment. I
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: remember boat nail art. You had boat nail art? Like
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: ships made out of nails.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: String and nails?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew I was not delusional.
• 20:18
  Speaker 11: Cappy Moeller.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 20:20
  Speaker 11: What happened to him?
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: Oh, I don't know.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Wow. I don't know.
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: I think I found that at a yard sale, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: I was like, I must have that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: It seemed fitting, actually. Yeah. Well, that's how they referred
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: to me in the past, was Cappy Moeller. That's... It's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: all come full circle today. Aye, aye, Cappy Moeller. Cappy Moeller.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It's been a long damn time.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Well, that's crazy.
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: And you've been around for years.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even.
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: Know how I met you, to tell you the truth.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I think I was trying to figure
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: out who was doing that weird art that I liked.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, who is this weirdo chick that's doing
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: these art projects? And it was, I believe, the first
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: time I saw your art that led to that was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the same show that you met Paul at. I was there.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: We were all in the same place at the same time. Seriously?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Pretty amazing, isn't it?
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: You know, there's a photographer in town that swears up
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: and down he introduced us because we were standing together talking.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Well, that's not true.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: He does.
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: I thought we blamed Ben for all this bullshit. Yeah,
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's... I blame most things on Ben.
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: It's okay.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: But it's funny because the guy was like, why I
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: introduced you two? Even though we had just met, but
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: we were standing talking to one another and then he
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: was like... Paul, do you know Gina?
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: Do you know Paul?
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: So he thought he introduced us.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: He thought he did. Yeah, I let him have that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: He didn't actually do it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: You know, 12 years later.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: But I probably, like, I was probably there and, like, accidentally, like,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: shoved you into this person and, like, domino effect and
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: then this all happened and you came together.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: That's crazy.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: So. There you go.
• 21:57
  Speaker 11: So it's been a while.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: But I'll still blame Ben for everything. It's okay.
• 22:01
  Speaker 10: I think, yeah, Ben and I actually moved alcohol from
• 22:04
  Speaker 10: downstairs to upstairs so that we could get free alcohol.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: That sounds like those shows. I'm not naming those shows,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: but those shows were mostly about alcohol. Mostly about alcohol.
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: A little bit of art.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Mostly about alcohol.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: And occasionally a stripper.
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there was some fire involved too, I think.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Yep, fire.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: I don't think there were any strippers.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: This is why I started my own shows at that point.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what's going on here.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I'm going to start my own, and then I think
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I recruited you into it. So this is how these
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: things fell into place.
• 22:33
  Speaker 11: You had good shows.
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: You put good shows on.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's my public radio voice.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Those were good shows, yeah. Weirdo artist. If you have
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: any questions about that, you can get those answered at
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: your local public library. I'm not getting any public funding,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: so screw that voice. I don't have to use that
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: voice because nobody's giving me any tax money. Sorry, damn it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Can we cuss?
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: As much as you want.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: See, that's the beauty. That's right, fucking weekend.
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: Public radio is just.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Like, gosh darn it, I wish you'd send us some
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: more funds. I'm like, look, fuckers, if you don't send
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: me money, I'm going to die in the street.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, Shazbot.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: That's true. Just like Edgar Allen Poe. Mm-hmm.
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: That's about to happen.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: He died in the street?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. And I'm not even drunk. I
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: drink coffee, and I'll just die in the street of
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: a heart attack.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: Actually, you'll just get diabetes with as much sugar as
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: you put in it.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I was impressed. Well.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be a slow, slow death. Your feet will
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: go first.
• 23:26
  Speaker 14: Cool.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I can still work the computer and keep making episodes. Suckers.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: I'm sure we just offended someone.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Someone with diabetes. If you think that's the first time
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: we've offended someone on this show, you are sorely mistaken.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Diabetes is no joke.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: Mmm.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: After you give to the Diabetes Foundation, then send us
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: two bucks a month. That's all I'm going to say. Oh, man. Yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: So what are we talking about?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So this specific episode, now that we've done your whole
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: life history, this specific episode came up because last week
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I ran into you anyway. In a terrible movie. We
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: immediately started talking about bad movies. It might have been
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: because we were at a bad movie. On purpose, actually.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I always turn into terrible.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Movie talk anyway. So, as we're standing in the parking
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: lot after that bad movie, talking about other bad movies,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why are we not doing this on a
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: regular basis in front of microphones? Because that's what I
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: do anyway.
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: And that bad movie was, last weekend was Samurai Cop.
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: And this week it's, what are we?
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, let me go back to Samurai Cop.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I figured you'd want to recap. I love Samurai Cop.
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: Like, I love it.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I do too.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: I've now watched it like twice. Actually, maybe two and
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: a half times.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Because didn't you fall asleep? No, we've seen it three times.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: It may be three. I've watched it three times and
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: every time it's such a joyous, life-affirming experience.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I won't go knee-deep into that one because I feel
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: like it's its own episode somewhere down the line. But
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I will say, as I came out of the theater
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that night, I'm thinking to myself, and then it reoccurred
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to me earlier today as I was watching this week's movie,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: You see these kind of movies, and it really makes
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: you appreciate even middle-of-the-road, mediocre, competent filmmaking. Even just generic
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: crap you see on television, like bad TV shows. At
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: this point, if you're to the point of being on
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a network, even not one of the big three, four networks,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: if you're just on TV at this point, you've probably
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: got basics down like, editing or dialogue or recording the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: audio or any of these things that are just kind
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of bait most stuff it's pretty yeah that's not fair it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Takes a lot to make over the top look like
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: an oscar winner by comparison.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah which is pretty competent from.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Those points of yeah it's it's edited okay it is
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: but it has like a plot that it stays with
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: that doesn't Okay, go ahead.
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: Well, conversely, the other side of that is that those
• 26:14
  Speaker 10: quote-unquote bad movies are the ones actually taking risks and
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: challenging the whole situation.
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: Oh, no.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: That's true. And folks like George Lucas are not writing
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: great dialogue. But, and this is one, again, if we're
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: going back to the Lucas thing, like I've... come full
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: circle to the point of, like, I will totally give
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: him credit for, in his day, being a maverick. Like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the shit that he did back in the 70s was, like, well, again,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: if you go way back, if you're doing, like, THX,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the fact that somebody gave him money to make a
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: full-length version of that movie is insane. Like, at least
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: American Graffiti's pretty, like, normal. I can see that getting funding,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: even if it wasn't Lucas-related. But, like... Even when you
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: get to Star Wars, nobody was making science fiction movies
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: like that. Certainly not on that scale. And then even
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: more so, when you look at the way it's structured,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: it is not a normal movie. We're like 25 minutes
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: in before we get to humans in that movie. It's
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: nothing but guys in suits and robots for a good
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: 20 minutes. Think about that. No movie does that shit.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And we don't even hit the plot. The main plot,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: when you think about episode four, is going to the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Death Star.
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: The team fighting it out.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: It's like... halfway into the movie before we get to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: that part.
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: I think it took Saturn 5 like 30 seconds before
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: it got to naked Farrah Fawcett.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: It's right there. That's what we're here for, damn it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I want to see a big, cool looking robot and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: naked Farrah Fawcett. I've never seen that. There are two,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: arguably three things I came to that movie to see.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Harvey Keitel and Farrah Fawcett and oh, the guy that
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: was in Kirk Douglas. Kirk Douglas. Yeah, I was like, wait,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I know it. Kirk Douglas.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: It's a hell of a movie.
• 28:03
  Speaker 9: We'll get back to that in a future week as well.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I have not talked about that yet,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and I want to.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: If I would consider this week, can I say what
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: movie it is?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Drum roll, please.
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: I'll do the whole pitch, but go ahead now.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: No, you go for it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Do it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: Let me hear you pitch.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Pitch it. It's time for Sofa Theater. So, now you've
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: got a big payday with a big stock option, huh? Yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I earned it. All those big deals I did with NCT.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: And millions of dollars of revenues and sales. Well, you've
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: done a great job, Rod.
• 28:33
  Speaker 12: Meet Rod.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: Hi.
• 28:35
  Speaker 13: A young software salesman on his way to achieving his
• 28:38
  Speaker 13: Silicon Valley dream.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about opening up a green tech company.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Meet Natalie, a beautiful young fashion model driven by passion.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I remember you now. You were my English class.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: I was?
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So how come you never made a pass at
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: me in school? Throw true love into the equation and
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: anything is possible.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I was wondering if we can keep in contact.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: How big was the sale? One million dollars.
• 29:12
  Speaker 16: In other news today, the population of polar bears is
• 29:16
  Speaker 16: declining rapidly.
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: Hi, my name is Jerry Owens.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: I'm from Solar Power Accessories.
• 29:21
  Speaker 16: This morning, flocks of seagulls and crows were found dead
• 29:24
  Speaker 16: in downtown San Jose and along Highway 101.
• 29:27
  Speaker 17: Hey, I thought I told you to stand back.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: These birds are contaminated.
• 29:33
  Speaker 16: The crows and seagulls also caused an accident on Highway 101.
• 29:37
  Speaker 16: Authorities are investigating the cause of their death.
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: Let's get out of here.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I think they're eagles.
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: What's going on?
• 30:10
  Speaker 17: I'm not worried about the black bird.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: They're not the dangerous animal.
• 30:14
  Speaker 17: As a human species, it's a dangerous, menacing, terrifying animal.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Why would birds do something like that? I mean, why
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: would they just attack? I don't know. This week's Sofa
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Theater feature is Birdemic, colon, Shock and Terror. Shock and Terror.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: The year is 2010. The director is from the visionary
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: writer-director James Wynn, and the plot, according to IMDb, a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: horde of mutated birds descends upon the quiet town of
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Half Moon Bay, California. With the death toll rising, two
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: citizens manage to fight back, but will they survive Birdemic?
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  Speaker 1: Spoiler alert! I'm not 100% sure you can spoil this movie,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: but just in case, go watch it now. Did you
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: watch it? Okay, sorry about that. But now you're caught
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: up and you're ready to go, and we're ready to
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: ruin everything. So feel free now to talk about whatever
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the hell you want. All right. Shock and terror. Shock
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and terror. I keep wanting to shock and awe, because
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of in awe. It's like awe.
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: I think, Gina, you have your finger on the pulse.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Of the history of of bird no i don't you
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: do i mean i have a little bit but that's
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: almost like a side story because it i had one
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: approach to it when i watched it because this is
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: one of those like we were talking about last week
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: because you just watched it i knew of it from
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the beginning there i saw the whole crazy fanfare that
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: came with it and i'm just like what the hell
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: is this and like i knew about it i'd seen
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the special effects i'd seen little bits and pieces of
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: it but I never really wanted to run out and
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: see it. So I hadn't gotten around to it yet.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: And this was like, okay, it's a good excuse to
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: watch it. So I watched the movie and then I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: went back. I was just like, oh, they're right. This
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: is a bad movie. But then I went and watched
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the whole little side story about James Wynn, the director,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the writer, the man who created this masterpiece. It's a
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: different take after that. Like it really is. If you
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: find out a little more about him, it's like, oh,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: it does kind of change my, Really? What I want
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: to approach it now. I'm going to try to keep
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: that as a separate thing.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: Well, now I'm curious because I didn't see. I've just
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: taken it from its straight.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I think we should discuss the movie as it is
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: first and then I'll get to the story about the
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: director afterwards. All right. So the movie opens. The movie.
• 32:51
  Speaker 11: Let me, let me, what was I going to say
• 32:54
  Speaker 11: about it?
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: Hang on.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I had a very valid point about it. I had
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to start like, okay, wait, I need to write down
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: some of the things I need to address.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: I like that there was a typo when he was
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: advertising himself.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: You mean supporting casts? Casts. I'm like, how many movies
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: is this guy making at once right now?
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: A typo is always a great indication.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: And also when he was promoting it, He had it, like,
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: whatever on his cart that said.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: That's what I was just going to say. I was like,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and in his own advertising that he wrote, he spelled
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it wrong.
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: He spelled it wrong.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So, you know, he was excited, though. I can imagine being.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Excited about releasing your own movie and you're making your sign.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: A little snippet into our director, but.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't, like, you know, you don't have the experience.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Of being a... Think about it. You don't go to
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: one of your friends and go, could you spell check
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: this for me? Can you look at this? Does this
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: look right? Does anything look horribly wrong? I'm so excited.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go put it on my car. English
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: may be my second language. I'm not sure. It is.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Sorry, clinking glasses was not my intention. Yeah, I mean,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: the thing that I walked away with from Birdemic is
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: that I could take the most boring aspect of my
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: job and take it and then apply some other sort
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: of like bizarre scenario and.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Make a movie.
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: That's what I walked away with.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Like most, a lot of the movie was a guy talking.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: About his job. You could be a software sales person. See,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I went the other way of it. I went like, again,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I think because I had to. I was trying to
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: get through it. So I had to pause a few
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: times and be like, I'm going to go get some
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: chips or something. Isn't there something that I need to eat?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I need a cup of coffee.
• 34:32
  Speaker 14: I need.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had to like distract myself a few times
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: to be like, it's OK. It's OK.
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: So I get back.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: So I think I paused it right about at the
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: halfway point, which is before we get to birds and whatnot.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like at that point, I'm thinking to myself.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: this is a lot of time spent on these losers'
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: love life. Like, it's a good amount of them dating.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: And software sales. It's kind of soft.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: I didn't pick up on the dating so much as
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: the bizarre software sales.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: The thing is, I didn't buy the software sales. Like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's throwing in words that don't really
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: make sense. You bought the dating? But the dating, I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: felt like it's, awkward as hell but i'm just describing
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: my dating life so i'm just like no this part
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: feels about right this feels normal these awkward ass sentences
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: of like so what do you do i'm so sorry
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: brian that's nice i hope that works out for.
• 35:28
  Speaker 18: You i want a perfect girl good for you hope
• 35:33
  Speaker 18: you find it this is pretty close to many a Well,
• 35:38
  Speaker 18: there haven't been that many.
• 35:39
  Speaker 11: So what do you do?
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: I just got hired as the Victoria's Secret model.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Super.
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: Supermodel.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Well, again, and I'm like, so much of it is unnatural.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: And like, again, maybe it's a language barrier. But I'm
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: just like, the fact that it's like, if you knew
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: someone who was working in that, even low end of
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that industry, you wouldn't be like, oh, I'm a model.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I'm a fashion. I'm a fashion mom. Like, fashion had
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: to be worked in there in case you were questioning.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: Like, you see bad, like, 1970s... What was that artist's name?
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Nagel? You know what I mean? Those paintings? Oh, every
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: painting slash print you saw in the background of every
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: 80s movie? Yes, those. Because isn't it in Samurai Cop?
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Is there not one in the background of Samurai Cop? Probably.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: There should be. Which falls into the 90s, actually. But
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: it was hanging on.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: It was a.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still a thing.
• 36:28
  Speaker 11: It was an awesome.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Look that we all wanted in our home.
• 36:30
  Speaker 11: Yeah, so when I hear.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Fashion model.
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: That's what I think.
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: A fashion, Victoria's Secret fashion model.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: It's like, well, and then it brings me back to
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: the other movie that we all have to watch to
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: talk about, that Fateful Findings, where there's a character that says,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: future episode, he says, I am the, what did he say?
• 36:50
  Speaker 11: Like, I am the bank.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: You know, when he's like.
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: I am the president of the bank.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Of the bank. Are you in the bank right now?
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: At the national press conference, I am the president of
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the bank. And I feel like that's how all the
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: software talk goes. It's just like, yeah, I scored my deal.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: millions for me now like I'm just like it's so
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: awkwardly worded.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: One million ten million one hundred million.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: And like so like bullshit on the like cause then
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: like he's what can I do to get your business
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: today alright I'll give you 50% off I'm like dude
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you are fired wherever the hell you work you don't
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: give somebody 50% off you're not a Garage sale? You're
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: selling huge deals. Millions of dollars.
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: I feel as though that if you worked and lived
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: and worked in that industry, that movie would have spoken
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: to you somehow.
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: That it would have made sense.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: And you would have been like, God, this is riveting.
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: Oh my God, there's birds?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Except all those guys like killed themselves. There's a birdemic too.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: After like two weeks at that job, they went home
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: in awe for themselves. I can't take this life anymore.
• 38:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah, what does he say? Like, I scored my big deal. Oh,
• 38:06
  Speaker 11: is that his friend?
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Biggest deal of my career. Yeah, let's get laid. And
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I got stock options. There's stock options. I think that
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: was a direct line, Brian. Yeah, I got stock options.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: And a day not getting laid is a day wasted.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: or something I'm paraphrasing a little but that guy's a
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: treat let me tell you yeah I think he dies
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: early No.
• 38:28
  Speaker 11: It's pretty far in.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: He disappears for a long time. He disappears, period. He
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't die, does he? I thought he was back at
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the end.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: You know, I wish there was like a real deliverance
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: scene with him and that guy that they find in
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: the woods with the wig.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Deliverance?
• 38:43
  Speaker 11: He deserves it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: He feels like a pig and gets raped by another guy. Well,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, he just deserves a gnarly.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: That seems a little extreme. He's just a jerk. A
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: pig somewhere is upset.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: I've offended a pig somewhere.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Somewhere there's a school teaching banjo that's upset with you
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: right now. That doesn't sound right.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know, let's say shocking things about
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: a terrible film.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So, all right. I'm trying to bring us back in here.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: So let's just... Birdemic. Let's talk about just like by
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the time we get to the restaurant. Like we're like
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: two minutes in and I'm like... Wait, wait. Which restaurant? Wait,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: what happened? The restaurant's at the very beginning. Is it
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: the date? Yeah, they don't even do anything really or
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: we don't see anything. She kind of has a pile
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: of like, looks like wadded up bread on her plate
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: yeah when she leaves because i guess she's like no
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: carbs you know she's a fashion model but the i
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: mean everything are you talking about where he takes all
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that time to drive around and then park.
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: God, I kind of blocked that out.
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: Like, the parts that you remember.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: He drives around.
• 39:44
  Speaker 11: I thought they went to a bowling alley.
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: Am I misremembering?
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: His first 10 minutes is spent driving and parking, and
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: then he shows up at their restaurant. Yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: Because remember that truck behind him?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: And he's in a hot rod Mustang. That goes 20
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: miles an hour. It's a plug-in Mustang, so he really
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: can only go 20 miles an hour.
• 40:02
  Speaker 11: Oh, that's right, because he's like, my car's battery.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, he's a hybrid.
• 40:06
  Speaker 11: My car runs on solar panels.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: But that's a solar panel. But that explains why when
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: he's coming up the hill and that truck's behind him, like, oh,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: my God, get out of the way. Like, there is
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: a truck that is just like, for the love of God,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: why are you doing 20 miles an hour up this hill?
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Get out of my way. Like, I can feel it
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: in the scene. That's the most tension in the scene.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: Maybe that's the first movie shot on, what are those
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: cameras called that you attach to stuff?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Time lapse?
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: No.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: It took us four years to make this scene.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: You know, like, you can put them on your helmet
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: and crash.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, GoPros.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: It's probably the first movie filmed on a GoPro, just
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: in the driving.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, once again, if they want to kick in
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the licensing, because, I mean, there are, like, entire GoPro
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: film fests now. So, like, now it's a legit thing. Like,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: it really is stuff that people do. I think that
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the whole idea, though, was that, you know, his whole
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: shtick was.
• 41:05
  Speaker 10: Environmentalism, efficiency, gotta drive the hot rod at 20 miles
• 41:10
  Speaker 10: an hour.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, in bumper-to-bumper traffic. That's the one thing. And
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: still get 40 miles per gallon.
• 41:18
  Speaker 11: But he never talks about that, does he? He should
• 41:20
  Speaker 11: mention it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Like, really. But he does talk about the inconvenient truth. That's, yeah,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: my very subtle plug. That was, like, right off the bat, though.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: That was one thing I was like, okay, I'm gonna
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: give our director a little credit here. I'm like, I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: can see him having a little vision there. Like the
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: shots in the car were very, again, everyone always references amateur.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: It isn't professionally done, but I think there's a creative
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: aspect that I'm like, I do like what he's trying
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: to do there. Now, the fact that I can see
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the reflection of the lights the whole time and it
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: looks horrible isn't good, but the shots that he's trying
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to do, I'm like, okay, I do see he's got
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: a little- Like, I totally didn't get that. Well, again,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: he's totally stealing from Hitchcock. Anyway, the whole movie is.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: So to me, I feel like there's so much of, like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: vertigo that's him driving around up and down those hills.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I see the film fan in him.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I see him, like, I want to do an establishing
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: thing with the credits. And I really want to, like,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I do see a little bit of movie geek in
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: him trying to make this. This is his baby. And
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: this is what he wants to do. So, like, I
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: see that in the credits. I feel like it's falling
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: short in the technical aspects. Because even then, there's, like,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: moments when it's like it's just the camera's moving like
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you know or he's driving way too slow or like
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: all of these things it takes way too long too
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: but i see a little ambition in that opening but.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Wouldn't you edit it better i mean you could have
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: i would you could have.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Done that same thing but edited and had him drive
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: about 40 but whatever.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: I mean 20 and it was like it was like
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: a really like what was what is it uh oh
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: god what movie has that really long opening Rope. No.
• 43:02
  Speaker 11: Anyway. I can't think of it.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I'm useless.
• 43:05
  Speaker 11: But then they kind of repeat it in Get Shorty, like,
• 43:08
  Speaker 11: where they.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: Do that long pan in, you know, and it's, like,
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: kind of like, it's not, I want to say, like,
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: dial in for nerder.
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: But that's not what it is. That's your life.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: It's like, you know, having a conversation with me is
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: like playing $ 20, 000 pyramid.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, luckily my brain's kind of useless now.
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: And I don't remember things. So it kind of works
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: in the same way.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: So it'll balance out my not remembering most of the stuff.
• 43:31
  Speaker 11: It's like something murder. Anyway, it's a black and white film.
• 43:34
  Speaker 11: But it's all about this long opening shot.
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, there is a Hitchcock one. One of
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: his really early ones.
• 43:39
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but it's not Hitchcock.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: But one of his really early ones starts out at
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: sea and starts zooming in on this house and comes
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: into the house. And again, he's super inspired by Hitchcock.
• 43:51
  Speaker 11: But this is an Orson Welles film that I can't remember.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Not Citizen Kane? No. It's Rope, I'm telling you. No,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: that's Hitchcock. The Trial?
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: I thought you said it was The Magnificent Ambersons?
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: No.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: The Stranger? Well, anyway.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: So, anyway, yeah, I get it, but those are, like,
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: beautifully done, and this is, like, you're riding with your
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: slow-driving hands.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: And it's about the editing.
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: The editing is the piece that he is in this
• 44:17
  Speaker 10: throughout the movie.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: But those shots are not edited.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: They're, like, long, unedited.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: It needs to be edited. But then they need to
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: be edited. And that's the thing. I'll give him I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: see ambition there, but then, like, that's the thing. It's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: like that, you're just kind of like, well, okay, he's
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: getting going, whatever. Then you get to that restaurant and
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you immediately see, oh shit, like the most basic breakdown
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: of like filmmaking of like, and this is what I
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: kept seeing throughout. It's not just in that scene, but
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you start seeing it there. It's like shot hang time.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: It's like an extra four beats, not even one. Like
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: one already starts to get uncomfortable if it's the wrong situation.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: It's like, stop now. Wait, wait. Wait. Wait. Cut to
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: the next scene, and then they're waiting, too. They're at
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the next scene going, wait, wait. Okay, start my dialogue.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: So it's like every end of it is missing its mark,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: and yet they're just kind of jammed together. So it's
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: that part that I start going, oh, no, it's failing
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: on the most basic levels. It's timing. Yeah.
• 45:19
  Speaker 11: I mean, that movie could be half as long.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it's all those weird edits. And like, that's one
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: of those like, yes, it's still going to have bad
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: dialogue and it's still going to have horrible effects. But
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, if you just gave it to a real editor, like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: you can tighten up so many of the problems.
• 45:34
  Speaker 11: It could be on the sci-fi channel.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it could. Definitely. That's the thing. Absolutely. Watching it, like,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: we've talked about many bad sci-fi channel movies or... whatever
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: those Asylum makes those bad movies, like all of that
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: stuff is not that much worse than what this is here.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: If you had somebody editing the basic... No, I totally agree.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: clunkiness out of it like the level of dialogue isn't
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: really that much different than Sharknado you know it's like
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: it's just as schlocky as everything going on there.
• 46:03
  Speaker 11: But the delivery is pretty bad.
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: It is but what do you do for a living I.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Am a fashion model see that's what you delivered that
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: too quickly you needed to wait like four beats again
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: we'll jump ahead a little because this isn't necessarily about
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the director because that's the thing I'm looking at it
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: going these people are acting And they were. They've been
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: in other things.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: They are.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I feel like she almost could
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: pull stuff off. She's trying. The guy's just a dork.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Nothing works for him for me. I
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: feel like she could work in a different scenario. And
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. Once you get into it, you're like,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: because they're also speaking in this weird way. And it
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: turns out it's kind of in his broken English. yeah
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: because the our writer our writer came like in the
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: like when vietnam ended he basically came from vietnam to
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: america and he's like he's he's pretty good he's got
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: english down but there's still a weird broken english thing
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: going on and he wrote it that way and from
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: the like the the actress is like from day one
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: we were like this isn't working like can we change
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: our dialogue he's like no that's the way it's written
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: say it this way like he made them say the
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: lines the way that he wrote them in this weird
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: awkward english so it makes it a million times more
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: awkward as they're so again i think some of them
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: is performance but a lot of it is him.
• 47:32
  Speaker 9: He nailed them.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: To that to that dialogue the way that he wrote
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: it and that's just Binding their hands at every turn.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing.
• 47:40
  Speaker 11: I don't want to do something else. I don't want
• 47:42
  Speaker 11: to harsh anybody for making their dream. You know what
• 47:45
  Speaker 11: I mean? It's like we were talking about.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: And again, that's definitely where I'm going to come around
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: to by the end of this. Right.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: What does it matter if you have terrible friends that
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: are terrible actors or whatever, but if you want to
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: make the story and make it happen and.
• 47:55
  Speaker 11: You can do it, everybody should.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:58
  Speaker 11: If you want to do that, you should.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: If you want to make the world's worst album called...
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: space cougar then you.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Should stop outing your creative project which is why I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: totally TM TM we're claiming that already we can't steal
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: our thing.
• 48:11
  Speaker 9: Because I totally support fateful findings yeah and.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: That does lead me to that and like that guy
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: was actually hurt when people were laughing at his like
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: opening and it's like dude I totally get it it's
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: terrible but I get where you're coming from I can't
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: I can't hate on.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Something I mean that's my thing here it's like I
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: my initial reaction as the movie geek I am is
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: to be like no what the fuck so I still
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: kind of want to address that I still had all
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: these things that I have problems with. But, again, by
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the end, I'm going to come back around to.
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: Do what you love.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Like, do your thing, whatever it is. Even if people
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: don't like it, fuck them, do it anyway.
• 48:43
  Speaker 9: So, again, that's why I do this every week.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: But, I mean, it is kind of just a funny,
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: awkward thing.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: It is. And it's like, yeah.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: And I didn't watch whatever the... you know his backstory i.
• 48:56
  Speaker 9: Will recommend it to you later it's a very specific one.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: Read a little bit about it and so that i
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: can i can get that i don't want to like
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: make fun of anybody for for chasing their dream but
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: good lord like it's got you know like there was
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: a lot of hitchcock where you didn't really see what
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: was going on right and it was still scary but
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: you know you didn't need exploding birds.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: But the story also made sense, too. Well, the story
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: made sense, too. And that comes into play a lot
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: of times where it's just, and he wasn't a filmmaker.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: He didn't spend years and years, right? He'd made a
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: couple of other movies before this. I'm not sure, like, two.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't know how awkward they're pieced together, but
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is that learning basic storytelling. Oh,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: and I think they're all the same thing.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: Like, he's, the character in that is like some sort
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: of computer.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: It's all, yeah. And it's all like he, cause he
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: kept referring to himself as like a romance thriller. Like
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a bad sci-fi movie he was trying to make.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: He still considered it. That's why I referenced the romance part.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Cause to him, that's still the core of the story
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: is this guy and he meets the girl and it's
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: true love. Like even if you watch that trailer, like
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: it builds it up. Like it's a weird romance almost.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: It's very strange how that came into play. So, again,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like he genuinely buys that part of it
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: as the heart of the story. It's just awkwardly put together.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: But I think there are key elements in the storytelling.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: It's a romance driven by survival.
• 50:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, which it can work.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of movies that are built around that. Plenty.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: It's just being able to competently tell the story.
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: Yes, he just didn't do that. He just didn't do that.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: But when we get to, like, in the restaurant, like,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: he just is awkwardly staring at this girl. And then, like,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: chases her down the street to stop directly in front
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: of the State Farm ad. I'm just watching it going,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I hope they gave you money, dude. Because I'm... I'm
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: fine with taking money for stuff, but I'm going to
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: call you out for it. I'm like, if you got
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: a little extra money kicked in from State Farm.
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: His buddy who works at State Farm probably gave.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Him $ 100.
• 51:02
  Speaker 9: Or they went and bought you some extra Slim Jims.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: They were like, you look hungry.
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: Are you guys okay?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Well, they said most of the quote-unquote catering came from 7-Eleven.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: So maybe the guys at the State Farm office were like,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: if you shoot over here in front of our sign,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: we'll go buy you some Slim Jims and Yoo-Hoo. How
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: about that? And he probably took them up on it.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Jake from Steak Farm.
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: Khakis?
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Is he wearing khakis?
• 51:24
  Speaker 11: Is he wearing khakis?
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Khakis. He's got khakis on. So, yeah. So, I would like, so,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Where do we go from here? Mine
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: are just so many random things I kept taking note of.
• 51:38
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, because the whole thing was so random.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, but just moments of, like.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: Like, okay, so how I said it would be my
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: version of, like, my terrible, like, lame job, like, sitting in, like,
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: some disaster scenario.
• 51:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Also, like, and me making the worst.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: Decision I could possibly make in that scenario.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Every single time. And why focus on all of the
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: things at your job that you absolutely hate? Again, it
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: may come because that was him. Like, it's so based
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: on his life. he may not have realized that was
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: the weird stuff that nobody knows about or nobody cares about.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: When it's your life, you don't know that shit. You're right.
• 52:17
  Speaker 9: It's your day-to-day bullshit.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: You just told your day-to-day friend bullshit to an audience.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, to an entire group of people around the world.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: That happened?
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: I'm so sorry.
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: What a crazy job.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I hate that for you. You got the stock options, though.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: Oh, wow.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Really good. Sounds like that was important. Stock options. You
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: got Stargazers.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: And then that awkward applauding scene.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Well, that was the thing. I got
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: to that point, and once again, I went back to
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: the mechanics of it, and I'm like... Oh, the boardroom?
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: The boardroom. The boardroom, yeah. Editing on applause scene is
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: really hard to do. And I'm watching it going, yeah.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, that would. Literally, I'm thinking about it as
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a dork that edits audio all the time, and I'm like,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: you could never make that match up right. You would
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: have to find some way... To overdo the applause and
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: then still make the visuals match up with your new applause.
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: Oh, I didn't think about that.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I was being a tech geek going, that really would
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: kind of suck trying to match. Because he wanted to
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: get separate shots of all these people, I guess, because
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: he was like, I got eight people in a room
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: at once. I got to make sure they're on the
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: screen all at some point. You'd have to have your
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: live audio mixed with your cut-in audio. Yeah, you'd have
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: to fade in and out as you cut from one
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: shot to the other and have some overarching version of
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: it that didn't make it so choppy in between shots.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Because we get to points there where it stops, and
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: then the next scene's right back into it. No, it's
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: right back midway in at that next hard edit.
• 53:37
  Speaker 9: Audio drops.
• 53:38
  Speaker 11: And you're done, but you're not.
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 53:41
  Speaker 11: The audio drops in and out of that.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: Thing a lot.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: To the point, there's many times. Where you're like, what? Yeah,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: in any professional movie, you shouldn't be going, wait, what'd
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: you say?
• 53:49
  Speaker 14: What?
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: What?
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't be talking, well, I was probably talking to
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the characters a lot at the time, but I shouldn't
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: be going, wait, what? What'd he say?
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: But also, you realize that whatever you miss was probably
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: not that important.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Not that important.
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: Like, whatever, okay, okay.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Again, as like a movie person, that's just like, this
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen normally. Like, in studio releases, you don't go, wait, wait, what?
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: What?
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: What?
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: It's like, ah, ah, ah, ah.
• 54:12
  Speaker 8: No.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: They come in and overdub that and you hear everything.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: In this one, there is a lot of overdubbing, but
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: it's weird and awkward. There's times that I'm like, that
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: was four years later when they said that line.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Hey, what?
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Well, those ones in the car. He's at the back
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: of the car, she's at the front. She's like, yeah,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: that's a good idea.
• 54:32
  Speaker 11: It's like, where did that voice come from?
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't match any audio in the last five minutes.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: It's so in a room four years later when he
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: did the looping part of it. Yeah. Oh, man. There's
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: just so many things. Yeah, well, you know, I feel
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: like it's... Technically, it's terrible.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Well, the way that it's told is kind of the
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: way that I imagine, like, when you're a kid and
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: you're making up a story and you're playing.
• 54:54
  Speaker 11: You know what I mean?
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: It's kind of true.
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: You've got, like, the characters in your hands.
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: And you know, but then you're kind of like, wait
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: a minute.
• 55:05
  Speaker 11: But then you're like, maybe... Or maybe then they.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Go over here. And then a dinosaur. Yeah, and then
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: you're like. The birds were the dinosaurs in this kid scenario.
• 55:14
  Speaker 11: Oh, I don't want to do this part over again. Oh,
• 55:16
  Speaker 11: and then what happens?
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: Wait, wait, wait.
• 55:17
  Speaker 11: And then you go get a Coke or like in
• 55:18
  Speaker 11: your life.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you.
• 55:19
  Speaker 9: So he has chainsaws for hands. And then I forgot.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I forgot to mention that.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: And also.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: And also. Like you're just. He shoots lasers out of
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: his ears. He's winging it like every step of the way.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: But I kind of.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: That was one of the things that I actually kind
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: of liked about it. Because it reminded me of like.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: The whole thing's an episode of Axe Cop.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: Your mind works when you're a kid and you're like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: all these creative options are possible.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know?
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: And it's like, they're just kind of jacked up because
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: you can't quite reign them all in.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Well, but his was very narrowly limited to birds.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Birds.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: And exploding. Well, and on just the most... On the landscape.
• 55:59
  Speaker 11: Did they shoot lasers?
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: No, no, there were just birds exploding on impact. There
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: were moments where I'm not sure what they were doing,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: and we're jumping ahead to the birds. They were going
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: like this. There's at least one.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: We should explain that there's probably, you know, probably... Three.
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: Five-eighths of the movie is just dialogue and parking.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 56:24
  Speaker 9: Before we get to the... Parking, eating.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: dancing horrible dancing oh dancing oh yeah dancing if you
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: want to call it that well there's uh yeah there's
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and then when he says in.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: That line about that scene where the girl goes off
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: to it's i guess the first like death in that
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: group right and she goes off with the other girl
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: and the rude dude is like remember when she walked
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: she walks off and the guy's like she took.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: It or shit Oh, yeah.
• 56:54
  Speaker 11: I was like, what?
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Who talks about their drama like that? Yeah, I mean,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I guess. That's probably factual. Well, that was once the
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: birdemic had begun. But she was the.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: First of the group to get it, right?
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: And it was just so unceremonious.
• 57:08
  Speaker 11: And the way he said it, it's like.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: They were in survival mode. Maybe that was real. Yeah,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: we haven't even gotten to that part.
• 57:13
  Speaker 11: Maybe that was real.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: They were in survival mode.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: Because that dude was kind of a dick anyway, so
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: he would probably truly say something like that to somebody.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: He probably would. But yeah, we jumped ahead to the birds. Sorry, yeah. Well,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: now I'm still like, even the most basic setups of,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: and that's why I was saying, which is the storytelling,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: you have to kind of come at this like the
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: people sitting in the audience don't know, and you have
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: to explain everything to them. His characters don't even fully
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: do that within their own world, let alone to the audience.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: So you have the moment when he makes his big
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: score and he had the biggest business deal of his life.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: So now he's going to call the girl. So he
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: calls her up and there's that weird, awkward exchange. And
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: then they do it. Well, no, then it goes... okay
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: like hey let me take you out to celebrate your
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: big modeling job.
• 58:01
  Speaker 19: Okay he talks about his job the whole time he
• 58:03
  Speaker 19: talks about his job well no before but like when
• 58:05
  Speaker 19: they're still on the phone it's like okay i'll see
• 58:07
  Speaker 19: you then click i'm like what you'll see when where where.
• 58:12
  Speaker 15: Are you gonna like there's no exchange okay at the
• 58:15
  Speaker 15: thai restaurant yeah something it's.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Like they didn't say which one they didn't say when
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: this was a very small town there's only one thai
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: restaurant So I'm just like, even if you didn't feel like, okay,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: this is dragging on too long, just be like her. Go, hey,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: text me the address. See you later. Like, if you
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: could find a way to make it where you didn't
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: have to spell everything out. But you have to do
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: it on some human level that makes sense so that
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, now on a basic level, this relationship
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: could happen in the real world. I gotta say, I
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: loved it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: I loved every bit of it.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Just the relationship? Every moment. Or the movie as a whole.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Or their relationship. And the fact that he whined and
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: dined her and then they went out dancing.
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: And there was the guy that sang in the background
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: with the song.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: About the weird family? About hanging out with the family.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: just hanging out hanging out.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Having ourselves a party Just hanging out, hanging out Hanging
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: out with my family Having ourselves a party A.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Cool summer breeze Making me feel at ease The barbecue
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: is broad And Uncle Phil is scoring Big Mama's in
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: the kitchen And everybody's wishing That she's Hanging out with
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: my family, having ourselves a party.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Just hanging out, hanging out, just hanging out.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: This is another moment when I'm like, what world is this?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: You have to make shit.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 9: Function in a world that people recognize.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Why are they the only ones in this building? Like
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: there's nobody dancing.
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  Speaker 5: Like if you did that to me, Paul Moeller, I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: would be like.
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  Speaker 9: Are you kidding?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: What the fuck is wrong with you, dude? Sit down.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 9: That's prime time dancing.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: That's when I feel the most comfortable. There's no one
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: in here. We're setting the stage. It's creepy enough. This
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: dude just randomly popped up out of nowhere and is
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: singing an entire band's worth of music by himself.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 11: By himself. And you want me to dance.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: That's impressive. Including backup singers. I'm like, was this karaoke night?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Or is he really supposed to be?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 10: That expresses how confident and sure the protagonists are.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Don't forget White.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 9: Man, they are the whitest people in the world.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Based on that dancing.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 9: Holy shit.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: She's not nearly as white as he is.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: She's pretty bad.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: And then she makes eye contact with the camera, I think,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: at one point.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that has nothing to do with how white they are. No,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: when she was doing the good moves. Because she's like,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: you're getting this, right? You're seeing what I'm putting out. Uh-huh. Cut.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: White girl action. So, yeah, she was a little more ambitious,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: which kind of makes her more guilty in this scenario.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: He was just kind of like... I don't know. I'm
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: moving my arms.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 11: He was like.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: She was working it. He was being a typical white guy.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he was taking chances and risks.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: He's a dork. And being out there. He didn't want
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: to get too far past his dorky comfort zone. I
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: appreciated her.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 9: She was her robot.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: She was a robot.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: So, you know, the mom was in the other, the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: first movie, I think, right? Like, did you pick up
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: on that? Like, that the mom was in the very
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: first movie and may have played, like, the main doctor?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 11: I mean, I can't remember.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I'm still laughing at the thumbs up. I'm sorry. That's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: my girl! Pause, pause, pause, pause. Take your arm down.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Do you remember? Like, it's weird. Once again, I was like,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: did they mean to leave that in the movie? Like,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: she just, like, thumbs ups her. That's my girl! And then, like,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: it hangs. And her daughter doesn't say a line in response.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: In fact, she kind of looks at her like, are
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: we still rolling? It's like there's a moment of like,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: oh shit, what's going on now? And then she just
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: puts her arm down and they carry on with the conversation.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: And I was like, that's an edit point for God's sake.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 11: The whole thing is awkward.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's kind of like the best thing that
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: you can say.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: That's what I loved about it.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: Super awkward.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: I loved that it was just so off time. But
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: you know. It was a syncopated movie.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 11: But here's the thing.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: Okay, so here's my comparison to the other movie that
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: we need to talk about, which I keep talking about.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: Fateful Findings.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Fateful Findings.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 9: My favorite movie.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: This is like an innocent... There's something very innocent.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Birdemic is innocent. There's something very genuine.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 11: About what he's doing. Genuine and innocent about what he's doing.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Again, it gets worse as you get into his story.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's definitely very... earnest in the way that
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: he's doing this. It is. It's earnest.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: You don't think that he's probably a really screwed up
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: kind of individual or something.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 11: He really wanted to make a movie.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: That is why I avoided it all these years. I'd
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: seen enough of it that I'm like, it looks like
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: somebody trying to make a bad movie. It looks like
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: a bad sci-fi movie that they're very self-aware of what
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: they're making. And how bad it is.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah like it's intentional.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: And they're marketing it that way. Like they're trying to
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: short NATO. Yeah it's like you can't. Again you can't
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: make a cult film.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: It has to be a cult film. If you try
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: to make a cult film. It's crap.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: And like.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: The audience knows that.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: And like.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: It becomes the dumb sci-fi movies. And people watch that.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Ironically now. But like. Nobody really likes those.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: But I think that's really what we probably liked about weird,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: bad movies as.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 11: Kids, is they were genuine.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: They definitely. And you were like... Before the mid-90s, nobody
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: was ironic about anything.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Everyone just went batshit crazy on their movies, and it
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: was a thing. And that was it. That was the thing.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: That was genuinely what they were trying to do. The
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: entire Canon Films catalog. Exactly. Hercules.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 9: How did this happen?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Canon.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: Which is, sidebar, a great documentary.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: That was amazing and that guy that guy's crazy but
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: anyway both of the brothers or cousins whatever they were yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: Cousins Israeli cousins Israeli cousins.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: And I feel like they're like my Israeli family in
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: the sense that they're just ambitious and just know what
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: they want to do yeah and insane it's pretty awesome
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: and figuring out how to get it done that's the
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: cool thing But yeah, so anyway, so I feel like Birdemic,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: it was really sincere. But this other movie, there's something
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: more nefarious and dark about it. It's more disturbing.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: There's something going on under the.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 11: It's weird.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 9: Under the surface that you can't see.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: It's mysterious. It's like somebody making a David Lynch film
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: that has none of the.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Like artsiness. Yeah, I was just going to say.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: At least his is like ambitiously artsy.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this other thing is like this bizarre David Lynch
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: character made his own movie.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the character.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 11: A David Lynch character made his own movie.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Tried to make a terrible movie.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 11: That would be Fateful Findings.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: So we have to revisit that. Interesting. Fateful Findings, yes.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 11: But I mean, Birdemic had a real like.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: He was trying to make this thing. It's just... Okay,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: so let's see.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 9: When do the birds actually show up in Birdemic? Well,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 9: first we have to have our... Well, there's a love scene.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: They show up at the love scene.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: That's right. That's 45 minutes in.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: They happen to run into the friends, right?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Before we get to their love scene, when she calls her,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: we've got the other love scene. Because what I like
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: is when I get a good bikini grinding going on.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I want to lay in bed in a bikini and
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: just kind of do stuff, but not really. I mean,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: just kind of pretend like we're doing stuff.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 11: That's not what I noticed.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: What I noticed was the terrible hotel room.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: well no i was talking about the friend though the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: friend is most definitely which once again like i even
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: when we jump ahead to their love scene i'm like
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: why are you in a hotel like you both have
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: a home they didn't go out of town or anything
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: like oh they did they went to half moon i
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: guess i thought they lived there no that's where they
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: went they took a trip they took a day trip.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 11: They drove there and they went to the like.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Half Moon Bay? They went to Half Moon Bay.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: We've been to Half Moon Bay and that didn't happen
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: to us.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: But did you go to the Art and Pumpkin Festival? No, no, no, wait.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: But the part that I noticed whenever the two of
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: them got together... They woke up the next morning when
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: the birds came. He was still fully clothed. In bed.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. I'm just like, did they do something
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: and completely get dressed again? Or was this a night
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: of clothed cuddling? She's half clothed and he's fully clothed.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: But even then, okay, we'll say... As a woman, we'll
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: pretend like something happened, and then you put everything back
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: on before you go to sleep? Does that seem like
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: a thing? Maybe they're one of those, like, put a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: sheet between us with a hole in it couples. But
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: a bikini is the sheet with the hole in it.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: What really happened was they ran in while they were
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: cleaning the room and said, hang on, we've got to
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: film this scene.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 11: And then ran back out so they didn't have to pay.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: For a hotel room.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: They're like, we don't have time for you to take
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: your clothes off. Just lay down in the bed and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: look out the window at the bad animation.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 11: But really, you're looking out for the cleaning lady.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 9: So you don't get busted.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really. We don't want to have to clean the
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: room ourselves.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 11: But yeah, I mean, that was like, I don't understand.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: But he had on a belt.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: Who sleeps in a belt?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: But the other couple was the same thing. She was
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: on top of him when the phone rang wearing a bikini.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: It was not underwear.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: It had the weird metal ring. Like you don't wear
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: that under your clothes. She was wearing a bikini in
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: bed on top of him. And he was fully clothed
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: once again. And what is going on there? This is
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: the guy who's nothing but sex. This guy is sex
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, fully clothed, and his girlfriend wears
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: a bikini when they're doing things.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 9: So there's just a weird.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Again, I think it was just he didn't... Which, again,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I guess points to him in the real world. Like,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: if I were a director, I would be really... I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: would feel creepy being like, okay, so take all your
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: clothes off. We're going to shoot this. So I think
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: it was a little bit of like, I don't want
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: to make these girls get naked. So, but his alternative
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: was not, let's shoot it, Artie. Instead, it's, let's make
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: you wear a bikini in bed.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: So let's have scandalous sex scenes, but not actually show nakedness.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 9: We'll just have clothed sex scenes.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a whole lot of weird stuff going on.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: That was even too much to just even address because
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: it's like, I.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Don't even know. That's a lot of weird. I think
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: that was actually why. I think he didn't want to
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: make them get naked. He didn't want to show nudity
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: in the film. So I almost respect that angle of it.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: Why couldn't they.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Just put a sheet? With a hole in it. I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: think we're getting a peek inside your bedroom. But anyway,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: that aside. Where's your sheet with a hole in it?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: You're not supposed to out that on the show. I'm
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: doing something.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 9: You guys keep that in the other room. Hey, where's
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 9: the sheet with the hole?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Hey! But... And then the birds show up. Well, that's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: how you get the hole.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 9: They peck a hole through your sheet.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, finally! Bird hole. Bird hole. Bird hole? Gotta get
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: the bird hole.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 9: The holes for the birds.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: What are you doing to these birds? I don't think
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to do that. So they wake up the
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: next morning.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 9: He's fully clothed.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: She's in a... Yeah, but see, if you're saying that,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: if you're saying.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: That he doesn't want to show nudity, then how come
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: she gets up in a thong?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I know. He goes to the window and is like,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: where are these birds? That was not near enough of
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: that for me.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: It's full moon bay at that point. So yeah, I mean,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: if that's what he's concerned about, that, to me, then
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: that's just.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Sexist. Once again, no, I think it's just not, like, again,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: an artsier, like a bad art student that went to
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: film school would be like, okay, we, you know, I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: can't convince my friend that I am in class with
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: to take her clothes off. So instead, I'm gonna artfully
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: cut it so that, like, she's got the sheet up
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: around her, then we cut to her, a close-up of
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: her by the window. Sheet in the hole.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 11: You've already edited this thing way better than you ever have.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. I think somebody super artsy
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: would know, okay, I can work around this. It's like
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: he didn't know. It's like he just, it did not
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: occur to him to like, oh, we can work around
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: that and still make it realistic-ish. Instead, it's just like, well,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: I don't want to show nudity, so put on a bikini.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: You stay clothed. Good enough. Like, I don't think it
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: was good enough. I think it was just like, that
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: fixes my problem. Like, it's like those things didn't connect
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: in his head. It was just this problem here. I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: don't want her to be naked. I don't want them
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: to be in bed together naked. Okay, I fixed it.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Move on to the next scene. Like, I think it
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: didn't connect.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, I realize this could be an English as
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: a second language thing is what.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: We're talking about. You had to go to window to
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: see Bud. It's not that bad, by the way. He's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: pretty well versed in English, which makes this even more weird.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but how can it.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 11: Be like movies?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: Like, how can you have a concept of movies as
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: a third language?
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 9: I do kind of wonder that, though.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, being the movie... fan that he is right
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: like he really is hardcore about loving specifically hitchcock like
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: somebody who's that artful about the way they shot their
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: movies and the way they structure like He structured the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: hell out of his movies before actors even came along.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: So to have him as your hero and then.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 11: Not pick up on any of that. Yeah, like how
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 11: is that?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: It's not... It is a little weird that just, again,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: me being a movie geek, I'm like, I feel like
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: I could fix some of the problems just from watching.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 10: I think what it was is that he focused on
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 10: the emotional aspects of Hitchcock. So he was just trying
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 10: to capture the emotion of those... scenes in hitchcock rather
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 10: than the actual mechanics of doing scene to scene but
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 10: that's part.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: Of what makes those scenes so emotional well.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I totally agree but you know if you have both
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: to someone who gets that yes yes if all that's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: hitting for that's like.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: Not having any kind of like empathy right it's like
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: not having film empathy.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Like he might be on the spectrum he's on the
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: filmmaking spectrum and some of these things just don't occur
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: to him to fix He's on the far end. But
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: Because that is, like, if you're trying to convey emotions,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: then there's a way to edit things.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: There's a rhythm.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 9: There's a rhythm to that emotion. And a creative way.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Solo panels. And a creative way to fix your problems. Like,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: that's what makes a good director is, like, shit never
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: goes right for anybody, you know, in any job. Specifically
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: something this artistically based that then you have to cram
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: into real world scenarios. So like a good director and
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: one who keeps making movies learns on the job and
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: just goes, okay, here's what we're going to do. We're
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: going to shoot it this way. We're going to move
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: you out of the bed. We're going to go over here.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Like you learn to make adjustments that fix your problems.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: And I think he was just like, okay, this is
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: the way I'm fixing it. Like I don't, it just
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't an artful way to fix most of his problems.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Well, or maybe also. And it's just ignorance really. He'd
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: never really made movies in Hollywood.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: When you think about how you would shoot a film,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: like how you would do different scenes and different, you know,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: set up your camera in different spots to capture different whatever,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: he just has his one thing going on. And that's everything.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: That's kind of that whole movie.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 11: It's like one static scene.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: It's not like we have a B story going somewhere else.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, no, or even the way it's filmed.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: Like, it's not like there's very few instances where it's
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: like there's a cut scene and then somebody's filmed in
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: a different way responding.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 11: And the ones that are are really awkward.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Or super choppy, yeah.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 11: Yeah, for the other stuff, it's still always like, this
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 11: is happening here. This is happening here.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: You know, instead of like figuring out how to edit.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: Film different spots and edit it. Wow, we sound like
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: we should make a movie.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: I think we should. Start sending funds right now.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: I just want to be a showrunner because it sounds
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: like a great title.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: I'm a showrunner.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: At my job, I'm a showrunner.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Not this show, Missy.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 9: I am the showrunner around here.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: No, not this. I can't do this.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 11: I sound stupid on this anyway.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: When we start our Netflix series, go ahead and somebody
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: green light that so we can start making it. Let's
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: do that. Right now, you can show run that and
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: I'll find some tech job to do. I'd like to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: take this opportunity at this point in the show to
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: tell you the benefits of solar panels. What are those?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Solar panels. Solar?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 9: Solar.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Solar panels.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 11: Who sponsored it? Evergreen.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Sponsored by Green.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: Evergreen.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that the name of the? Solar panels. Let me
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: interject and say, I think $ 20, 000 is a little pricey.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 11: For a solar panel?
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: For a solar panel? Solar panel.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 9: Because he's getting like one, it sounds like. Over on
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 9: the corner.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 11: Which, is that what gave him the idea to start
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 11: his business?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: I guess. Then I guess he was just like, that
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: is a good idea. I want to be green.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be green, and those were expensive, and I.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 11: Could do it cheaper.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I could beat these bastards. Solar panels. Solar panels.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 10: Yes, so if you haven't picked up on that, yes,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 10: he is selling now solar panels?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 11: Yeah, he got his big deal.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: He was buying solar panels, and then he decides to
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: sell solar panels at a much cheaper rate than the competition,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: therefore making him a financial genius. Evergreen investment.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 9: Evergreen investment. Making him a genius.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Did he like seek out someone else that could do
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: it cheaper? Or did he like make a deal with
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: that dude in his driveway that's like, how about if
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: you do it a little cheaper and then we work
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: together and we jack up the prices and I get
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: you a better profit margin.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: So we got to hear so much about his big deal,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: but we never figured out how he truly became the
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: genius solar panel dude.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: How any of it. Like, does he make these? Is
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: he in the garage there? Like putting together solar panels?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Better yet, does the.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 9: Enhanced solar panel caused the Birdemic.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Well, they taught.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: No one discusses how the Birdemic begins.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: The Birdemic begins. It just begins.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 9: Or did it?
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Is he the catalyst of Birdemic?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 11: He and his solar panels.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: And his skanky... Solar panels. I was thinking maybe... The
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: hole in the sheet. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: they're a little rolling around in the bikini hay is what...
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Cracked open that seventh seal and pissed off the powers
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: that be. And we're like, oh, no. We won't have
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: any of that.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Bird plague. Soul panel.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: Unleashed.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: It was crazy. By soul panel.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 8: Really.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: And in the end, I mean, I know I'm skipping
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: ahead here because there's plenty more to discuss.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, there is. But the doves.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: What are the doves?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's at the end.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: You can't skip to the end. Okay, I'm not skipping
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: to the end. Don't skip it.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: So anyway, so yeah, they go on this like crazy
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: road trip.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 11: Who doesn't love a road trip film?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 9: With machine guns, with never-ending ammo.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 15: Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: First of all, he just runs into some other weirdo's room.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: And we're like, where did these guys come from? Who knows?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 9: It wasn't like... That's important.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. I thought it was their friend. No,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: that's not their friend. Totally different guy. Two other random weirdos.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Just as smarmy, but he has guns. I thought it
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: was their friend.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 11: I thought it was the same people and he.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Was with a different girl.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Totally different guy. That's the thing. Well, the other girl's Asian.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 11: That's what I'm saying. He was with a different girl.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 11: I thought it was the same dude with a different girl.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 11: And they were like, hey, how are you?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: That's a different douchebag. So this is like they just
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: wander into this other people's room and then there's like, hey,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: so you guys okay? Like it's just... You'd think if
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: the world were, you know, apocalypting around you, you'd be like.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 9: There's a bird light going on.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be like, um, what the fuck? Did you
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: see those birds? It'd be a little bigger response, but
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: just like, hey, you guys okay? All right, cool. Let's
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: get some hangers. Let's do this. Hangers. And I feel
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: like there.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: Should have been a lot of like, pew, pew, pew, pew.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: noises in all of this too.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I assume that was going on in your
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: head the whole time anyway.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it was actually.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: But that's... I was sitting next to you. You were actually...
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Was I doing that? You were mouthing. There was a
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: lot of pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. But that,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: it comes back to another like just lapse in like
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: just knowing how to tell a story because... This guy
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: jumps into his crappy minivan like it could have been
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: a soccer mom.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: And he borrowed from his mom.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: And then like a second later, he pulls out not
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: even a gun. Like if you had a handgun in
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: your glove compartment, all right, I'd buy that. Probably a
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: lot of people out there do. He pulls out a
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: fucking assault rifle and just starts firing out the window.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why does this guy have an assault rifle
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: in his minivan? Two of them? Doesn't he have two? Well,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: he's got the handgun, too. He's like, here, take this.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 9: And our dorky software guy goes, okay.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: And just suddenly knows how to fire a gun. I'm like,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: I would have guessed you'd never fired a gun before today,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: but somehow now you... Because he sells solar panels. Somehow
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: now you know how to fire this gun and didn't ask, wait,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: is this the safety on? And then he went and
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: shoots the guy. I sell solar panels. eventually later, once again,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: this is being too close to the project that you love. Later,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: the guy's like, oh, why aren't you in the Marines anymore?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, if we knew that at the beginning,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: like if he would have like, come into the hotel
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: room and went, like, it's cool, I'm a Marine. I've
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: got some ammo and some guns out in the van. Like,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: if we had set that up, it would make sense.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: But this is just a basic lapse in storytelling of, like,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: 20 minutes later. I have an entire trailer full of
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: ammo that we can draw upon throughout the remainder of
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: the film.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: Listen, full disclosure here, at some point I was looking
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: at Pinterest.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: Honestly. This is not the proper way to watch a film.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: I disagree with your film watching.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: I think I missed that because at some point I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: was looking at Pinterest probably. I think it was when
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: he started to go into like Al Gorspiel.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Well, that is reason to tune out a little bit.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: The one with the music behind it?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 15: Yes.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Where they're like patriotic music. Wait a minute. I have
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: to talk about the guy that they run into in
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: the woods.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: Oh, no.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. My response. Hold on. As
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: soon as we got to him, nice wig, hippie. It's
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: the worst wig ever.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 11: I'm like, did you borrow that from the samurai cop?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: It's the worst wig ever. They run out into the woods,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: and they run into this guy who has a tree house.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 9: Can we play in it?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: No. Oh, damn it. He's stolen the samurai cop's wig.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 9: The birds might come, and I can't play in that
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 9: tree house.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Just the kids. Oh yeah, that's why. I am being
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: eternally 11 years old.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 10: And then he goes on this long speech about the
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 10: environment and how we are ruining it.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: We are.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with either of the two or three.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 10: The politics are accurate, but the drama is probably inappropriate.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: And again, a little ham-fisted. Yeah. A little shoved down
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: your throat.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: I think the worst one. And then it's over. Like,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: almost as quickly as it comes, it's gone. Well, that's because... Wait, what?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: You have notes on this? I had to make notes.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: That moment in particular.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: Hold on.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 11: It is, but why? Because it's on fire. And how
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 11: is it not? Does he not know that it's on
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 11: fire before that?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: That's not the reason he leaves. Really? He leaves because, well,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I gotta go. I hear a mountain lion. Oh, that's right!
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: That's right, yeah. Many a time, I've ended an awkward
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: conversation with, uh, gotta get out of here, mountain lion. Not, not, oh,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: I hear a mountain lion. You all should come with
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: me to the treehouse. No, no. No. Fuck you. Go
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: up into the burning woods. You're on your own. Go
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: into the burning woods. And fight a mountain lion with
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: your fists.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna use that.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: Like, the next time I'm stuck in some kind of
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: bizarre conversation, I'll be like, I gotta go. I hear
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: a mountain lion.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: There's a... That's the way I'm going to handle telemarketers
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: from now on.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 9: Goddamn mountain lions.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Which they are kind of making a comeback lately, so
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, gotta go, mountain lion. You
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: just won a cruise.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 9: I gotta go, I heard a mountain lion.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Sorry, gotta go, mountain lion. You'll never have a mountain
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: lion on a cruise. Swimming mountain lion. He's got water wings.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 9: I think even more horrible.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: Than the hippie in the bad wig is the dude
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: with the surgical mask on when they're out there.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 17: But there is scientific evidence to show that because of
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 17: our burning of fossil fuels and creating greenhouse gases, which
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 17: is causing global warming, it's raising the temperature of the
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 17: seas and species like the krill are dying. So many
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 17: bird species can't find food, like the New Jersey crows.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 17: So they eventually starve and die and wash up on
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 17: the shore. It's also evidence that global warming is interrupting
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 17: the birth, mating, and migration cycles of many species. In fact,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 17: in the last few years, 40 species have become extinct
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 17: because of global warming.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like his speech is longer and a little
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: more Al Gore-y. On the bridge. There's an old guy
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: on that bridge.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 9: Hey, let's go talk to him.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: That guy is preachy as fuck. Yeah. Yeah, he's at
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: the beach. He's like, oh, yeah.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 9: You know, I don't even remember his speech, actually.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: I tuned out immediately. I was like, oh my God,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: you're bleeding heart bullshit. I agree with everything you're saying,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: but shut up. I'm like, yes, we're stupid. Humans are horrible.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: We're ruining the planet. Oh, that's true. I don't want
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: to hear you talk about it, weird old man.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: Aren't you afraid of these birds?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: The birds don't bother me because human beings are the
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: real danger in this world, which is true. We're the
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: most horrible animals on the planet. Turns out, it's man.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: You cannot fight that. That is the truth. Humans are
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: the worst thing on this planet. The human animal. Human animal.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: The human animal.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: That we all are.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: Charlton Heston.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 7: Mountain lion.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: Damn dirty.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: Gotta go. I heard a mountain lion.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 7: Mountain lions.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: That's what's bringing us all down.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 11: It was a bit.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: But his heart was in the right place.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 11: Let's go back to that.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Well, no. Which one? Surgical mask man?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Let's... Since we're... near the end of the movie.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: Are we?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: But I feel like we've skipped a lot. No, no,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: we don't.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: And the kids are like eating candy.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why do we have kids, for one thing? Well,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: because they're... Pretty mommy! Are you saying children are the future?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's because he's indicating that they have to.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 9: Repopulate the planet?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 8: No!
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: What are they talking about?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: Like 10 people in Half Moon Bay were killed in
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: this whole bird outbreak.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't know that, actually. We only saw about 10.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: We really only saw about 10. Because of the situation
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: that occurred on the road, they're implying that it is
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: a lawless situation. It's pretty much every man for themselves.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: The guy that.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: Steals her gas?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 9: Tries to. And then he leaves his gas on the
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 9: side of the road.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: A guy just died trying to take this from you.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: And instead, which you just paid like, I don't know,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: $ 500 for that thing you.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 9: Left on the side of the road. So point being,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 9: it's a lawless situation.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: And people are dying. They are becoming the... They're taking
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: a parental role and they're trying to raise these children
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: so that they don't die a quick, gruesome death by birds.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: The lawlessness also doesn't match up. Oh, I agree.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: Because when they're shooting the birds and everybody's just driving
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: by like in like rush hour traffic.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: That too. But again, that I feel like is very practical.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I can't stop rush hour traffic guys.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: I gotta go to work. I have no money.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 9: I can't block off this road.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: You guys just hang out and act like you're doing this.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: And again, this is a moment we get in almost
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: every post-apocalyptic kind of a movie. We get the moment
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: of like, okay, let's go hit the store and get supplies.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: So they get to that first win and it's like,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: pretty much wiped out like it is empty shelves and
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: like there's like one of each thing they take and
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: a couple of sandwiches but for the most part they
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: really did find like i guess a store that had
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: been closed or something because like most of the shelves
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: are empty so my first issue is like okay wait
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: it happened this morning so in the span of a
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: couple of hours like as far as we can tell
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: it was the morning when they got up after they
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: were having rolling around bikini sex And then like a
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: few hours later when they drive down the road, this
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: thing is already completely empty.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 10: Because Jan at the sandwich maker didn't show up to
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 10: make sandwiches for the gas station sandwich.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 9: So there's that.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: And you know, the only thing that was left was
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: like tuna or egg.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: And these haven't been refrigerated all night.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 10: The rotary hot dog maker, you know, no one was
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 10: there to put the hot dogs on the rotary machine.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: That one shriveled up one was the only one left.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants that. That's it. But then we get like
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: a day, not even, I don't know. When does all
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: this happen? Is it all one day? I can't tell.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: So a few hours later in this day that goes
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: on forever. We get to another store and it's kind
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: of normal. So I'm like, this is after, isn't it
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: after they've already even held up on the road? They
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: get to the, and the old man's just like, well,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: we don't have much. No, it was right before because
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: it's when he buys the gas. He's like, we don't
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: have much gas left, but like the shelves are fucking
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: fully stocked.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 11: If you need any food, you can come on back.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: I mean like the kids, like kids go pick out
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: some candy. Like this place is just overrun with stuff.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, It's not that much further down the
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: road from, you know, complete wiped out desolation. But here,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, then this is after. Like, if it was reversed,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: it would almost maybe make sense.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 20: A little bit a quick quick sidebar there's a lot
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 20: of them on this movie if if there was a
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 20: an apocalypse all right let's say it doesn't matter what
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 20: brand of apocalypse there was play.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: This game about once a day you know whatever if
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: you owned.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: A 7-eleven.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 21: Wouldn't you immediately bar the doors and say, Hey, you know,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 21: damn it, I've got an endless supply of gas, food, water,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 21: and a bathroom.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: What I need now is a lot of guns because
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: I need to protect this shit. And you probably already
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: have that. At least one by encounter. Why would you
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: not shut the doors? How would anyone else find it?
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The old guy behind the counter,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: just more or less with the exception of jacking up
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: gas prices, is still kind of running things business as usual.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: He's reasonable. He's reasonable. He's just level-headed.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: He's a pragmatist.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: That is not an actual apocalypse. It's just an epidemic.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: It's just a birdemic. A birdemic, you might say. It's
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: true they were shooting lasers. Well, I also feel like
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: one had a missile launcher at the gas station, actually.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: The one gas station that gets blown up. I swear
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: it's at the very end of the scene and it
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: kind of goes pew! And like it fires and then
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: their explosion hits one of the gas tank. Well, again,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: it doesn't hit anything. It's a bad layer over top
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: of everything. But it pretends like it hits a gas
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: tank or something and it explodes. And I'm like, where
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: did that come from and what was it? And I
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: don't understand so much. We barely touched on the eagles.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: I'm using quotes. eagles that come along although they constantly
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: reference the eagles and vultures did eagles and did they
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: look any different because to me i saw they did
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: about five different animations there were three birds there were
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: three birds they did that come on paul get on
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: board we're all doing the arm motion all right so
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: you guys can't see it but we're all doing the
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: arm motions we're the three birds we have wings so
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: they all do that arm motion with their wings and
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: occasionally they rotate Well, we get a different angle. We
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: get the flying towards the camera, like, pre-programmed shot. So, like, again, there's, like,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: five variations. No matter what, you can make it a
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: little bigger, further in the distance, maybe. But, like, you
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: can change the little bit about it. But for the
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: most part, we get about five animations that just constantly
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: get looped.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 11: It's so easy to make a movie about, like, bird wars.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: You're 16-bit bird animation. Yeah, pretty much.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: It's your Mario Brother bird animation.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 9: Mario Brother bird animation.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, 32. 32-bit animations of birds. It didn't bump its
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: way up the Nintendo 64. No. It was right in
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: the middle.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: 32.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: It's like a Sega Saturn level, maybe.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: It was just Zelda.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: Super Nintendo Zelda.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 7: Maybe.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe. So, anyway. So.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 5: That.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: It pretty much takes us to the end, I think. Wait, wait.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: We missed. After we get the food at the place,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: we're being attacked by creatures that fly in the air.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: Let's go sit outside and have a picnic.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: Why would they have a picnic? Outside. Like, I can
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: understand you need to stop and eat the food. Why
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: would you get out of the car or find a
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: building to go inside? Like, why would you go the
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: one place birds can get to you?
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: If you had hung out at Target for a few hours,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: you could have avoided this entire thing. Like, I could
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 5: have missed a birdemic if I was on a good
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: Target run.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 9: That's probably true.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: Was that the same... point when he was fishing or
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: was that before he.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 15: Was oh that was before that was okay fish like
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 15: has any have they never bought.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: A fish again i'm not a fisherman but i'm pretty
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: sure you don't just boil it engage in a lot
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: you don't just boil a fish i think there's cleaning
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: and you open it right because the kids were like Ugh, gross.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: And who got fucking seaweed? You're not making sushi, you weirdo.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? The boiled heart. Yeah, that's my favorite.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 12: Yay.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 11: Boiled whole fish with seaweed.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Boiled liver. Once again, I agree.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 9: My 11-year-old self agrees with those kids.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: I want a happy meal.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 9: I want a Happy Meal.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to eat that shit. And I want
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: a toy, damn it. I don't care if it's epidemic
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: or not.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 11: Look, if we wait this thing out for about two
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 11: more hours, we can get a Happy Meal.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, when you have a guy that sells solar
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: panels and a stripper making your food for a toy.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, though, while you were in
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: that Target, you might have picked up their tripod. Because this, again,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: being the tech geek, I was like, no, it's like
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: when they're doing this weird pan shot, which, again, points
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: to him for deciding to do a pan. But I'm like,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: it's a weird jerky motion. And that's from a cheap-ass tripod.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: I know, because I have one. And I think I
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: bought it at Target. And so if you're doing old-school
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: 35 millimeter, you can put it up there and prop
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: your camera up. If you put a video camera on it,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: it's not smooth. It's not expensive. So you get, even
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: when it's relatively moving fluid, it's this weird little jerky
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: thing that happens that's a crappy tripod. And I'm like,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: this poor bastard couldn't even buy like professional equipment. Like
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: I just, at that moment I was like, oh, that's
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: like shit I have.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 9: Like I feel bad for you, dude. Cause I ain't
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 9: got no money either.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: Like there was moments when I was just like, yeah, yeah,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: I know that move. That's It's why I don't paint
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: a lot in my short films. I set that bench
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: on the tripod and I move around to the other side.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 8: So.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: There's, yeah, there's so many.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: It's weird because it seems like it was a long movie.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 9: Well, it's because of all the horrible edits.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: Well, and we have like two movies, so we felt
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: like we watched two movies. Because there's like at least
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: half of it that's just non-bird related bullshit. And then
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of driving around with birds. Zero survival.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: I liked when they'd shoot the birds so they would explode.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: That really appeals to my inner eight-year-old.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Why did they make plane noises? I'm not complaining because
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: my internal 11-year-old was like, cool plane noises. But when
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: they first show up, there's a lot of.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 20: But then they don't have as much of that later on.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 6: They don't.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 9: Like you forgot he put that in.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: Because in the beginning, you had the wide shot where
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: you were looking at the city and the birds were
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: flying into.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 9: Buildings and blowing up.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of them were. That was where the sound
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: effect came in. Oh, yeah, yeah. But then, you know,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: when you've got like... And that's the worst part of
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: being a full-on face bird human.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 9: Again, tech geek.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: Moment when I'm like, we mentioned the sound, but that's
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: the part when I'm like, oh my god, the sound
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: needs to be leveled out. Because you can't hear what
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: they're saying.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 11: No, there's times where they're like.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: The sound effect for the assault rifle is so fucking
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: loud that I'm like, you're blasting that and then two
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: seconds you're like wait what'd he say so if you're
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: like if you're at home you're trying to turn it
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: down because like you're waking neighbors up with your assault
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: rifle noises but then two seconds later there's this bad
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: muffled mic from across the room that can't pick up
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: anything they're saying so you're like okay wait I gotta
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: turn it back up again and then they start firing
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: guns but then you realize you really missed nothing you're
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: like you realize well at least he's giving me something
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: to do now instead of just focusing on this story
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: it's interactive this is an interactive it's an interactive movie
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: So they go to the lighthouse, and they find that
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: their friend with the Asian girlfriend is dead. Which, by
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: the way, we all really should just imagine peace. Yes,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: imagine peace. She was really into imagine peace. She was
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: selling it.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 11: Someone was up with that song.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: Isn't there a song that was like a John Lennon
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: kind of imagine thing?
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: It was a ripoff of imagine, but that came after
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: they were actually on the bed.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 9: In the hotel room earlier in the movie. With the
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 9: blatant poster behind her.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: With the imaginepeace.org poster in the background. Do you know
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: that is, it's not just ripping off Imagine the song,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: that is Yoko Ono's website.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 11: Imagine Peace?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, is he, again, is Yoko kicking in
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: on making this movie, damn it? Because you're broke, obviously.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: She got a little more money than you. She's still
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: getting John's residuals. For God's sakes, cut him a check, Yoko.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he's blatantly shoving this message down your throat,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: even to the point where like, doesn't Imagine Peace have
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: better looking posters? Like you made that up yourself, much
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: like her t-shirt at the end. I'm like, that looks
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: like you went to the mall in 1984 and had
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: her t-shirt made.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 9: Like why do they look so ghetto?
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 11: So really it's a time traveler thing.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like shouldn't Yoko have kicked in a free
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: t-shirt and a poster for you guys? You're promoting her.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: Are you going to? I'm looking it up right now.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 5: Consulting the Google box?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: We're going to the Google box. Imaginepeace.com, not org. I
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: believe that's what it said, yep. Imaginepeace.com.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 9: Imagine all the people living a life in peace.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: Heard that before. Without birds. Et cetera, et cetera. So,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: once again. Yeah, anyway. I just thought that was a
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: weird little... plug for no reason because at first I
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: was like is this like a tie into his own
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: like is this really a bigger like green thing like
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: I really kind of there were moments when it got
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: super preachy and they had a website blatantly like shoved
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: down your throat I was like is it actually like
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: someone had this organization was like oh we need to
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: call attention to our like super green eco organization let's
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: make this bad movie and like sneak in all this
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: other stuff that along the way you're like oh i
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: do want to go to imaginepeace.com which worked because you
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: just did so like i guess it wasn't but it
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: almost feels like it should be like at least then
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: you'd be like oh well that's why it's so clunky
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: is they weren't really trying to make a movie they
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: were trying to get this message out there and the
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: movie is the Sheep's clothing that the wolf is sneaking
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: in with. It's a bird. It's a bird in sheep's clothing.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: Makes more sense.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 9: Or a sheep in bird's... Or wolf in bird's clothing.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: A bird that ate.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 11: A sheep in.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: It's a turducken. A wolf that ate the sheep and
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: the bird.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 11: Isn't that the thing where you put a turkey.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 14: In a duck?
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: Wolf, sheep, bird. That's as smooth as some of our dialogue.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: It's a wolf sheep.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 9: So we get to the end. Now, we're at the end.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 11: And the doves show up.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: And then the doves show up. And now, I briefly
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: zoned out. Were you on Pinterest? I like that there's
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of this going on. Just as the doves arrived.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 10: I zoned out as the doves arrived.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: So how... Exactly. Does that happen? How do the doves arrive?
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: The more ineffective moment is I don't know that I
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: realized those were different than the rest of the birds. No,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: they just look like smaller animals. That's important. Yeah, I'm like,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: that's kind of a key factor if that's the way
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: he's trying to end this movie. So I'm like... wouldn't
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: you make sure this looks very different and like you
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: tint them super white or.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 11: Like yeah but they were just like a smaller version.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was the same program that he just kind
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: of sized it down a little bit and i was
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: like i just thought we're looking at more birds and
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: now they're flying.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 11: Out to sea and they're not moving.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: Because it's actually seagulls birds live in the ocean And
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: that's why they're going home now. Like, why would they
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: be going out to sea? You're going to die.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 9: And they go out to sea for a very long time.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: To dive in and get in their submarine. Underwater birds.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: The evil submarine, because that's where the hawks, or the
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: vultures and the eagles live. The vultures are really the
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: overlords that are down in the submarine running things, and
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: they're calling the shots.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 9: The evil bird.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: God, this just got weird.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Underwater breakdown.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 10: So, yeah, and the doves show up to save us
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 10: all from that by forcing the eagles and the vultures
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 10: down into their evil submarine.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 5: And then the hawks come and screw it all up
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 5: because they don't take any shit.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: What about... No, I mean, that was weird.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: That was just weird.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Well, again, it's like, I can't really think of a
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: way to end this movie, so let's just kind of
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: make it like, oh, it's It's over now. It's kind
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: of a happy ending, right? The iceberg showed up. I
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: guess that's what really bothered me. That's what bothered me.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: I could have looked past all the other stuff if
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: they had ended it like... You know, oh, you know,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: he goes through all this stuff to save the girl
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: and then the girl ends up dying or something.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 10: And then he has to take these two kids. The
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 10: two kids who have disappeared at some point.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: They come back at the end. And they're like, oh,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: now I have to raise you two kids.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 11: That's the European ending.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: To be solo panelists. Salesman. But luckily, they weren't brother
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: and sister, so they can repopulate the earth. Were they
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: not brother and sister? There's only three people. No, because
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: there were different cars. The one was hiding under a car,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: and the other kid was in a trunk.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 9: That's right.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: The kid was in the trunk. Why was the kid
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: in the trunk? I can't remember that.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 9: There was a dad laying.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Right in front of the trunk, so I'm like, this
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: was almost decent storytelling. You can then put it together.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: The dad was trying to save the kid. He got
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: him in the trunk, saved the kid, and got attacked
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: by birds and died. That's better storytelling. Or the guy
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: was abducting the kid, and he got killed, and then
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: the kid went up.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: In the trunk.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 9: So the birds are the heroes in this.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: Sweet bird justice. Nice.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 9: The birds are the heroes.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: So were they evil? Were they wrong?
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 11: Were the birds so wrong?
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: And that's his question. That's James Wynn's question. As we get,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: if we want to transfer on over... That's what he
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: keeps asking is like, this is what to him makes
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: this a good story. Not just this relationship that we're building,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: but the big question is, why do they attack? What
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: makes them attack? Yeah, it's supposed to be... And he
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have the answer. He keeps posing that to
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: people as like the reason that this movie is a
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: good movie. No. It's because it makes you question why. No,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: they do. They do tell the... I do. I don't
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: remember much.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 9: I do remember it.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: They do tell the reason. Future episode. They do say why.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: And the answer to our people. But he kept asking
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: that question in the post-world. In the real world. Even
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: though he wrote the movie, it seems like he would
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: know that it's.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 6: In the movie.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: But in the movie, he says why. Global warming.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 10: He says because global warming and a chain of events,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 10: you know, because.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 5: Of global warming.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: That was surgical mask guy and hippie. If he would
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: pronounce it correctly, it would be global warming. global which
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: that's my new warming that's my new buddy cop series
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: that i'm putting out is surgical mask and the hippie
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: so those two are the ones that told us that
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: yeah but i kind of picture a whole side story
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: about those two also on a road trip wait.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 11: A minute does the one guy have a pet mount.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Lion oh yeah he rides in the back it's like
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: shotgun hippies shotgun Surgical Mask is driving and he will
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: not take off the mask. It really pisses off Hippie.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: Because he's like, there is no epidemic. Take that off.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: And he's like, no, I have to protect myself. And
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: then in the back is the mountain lion in like
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: a little kitty seat.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: It's going to be fun. Showrunner. Come on. We call it.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 11: What are we calling it?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, what's better than Surgical Mask and the Hippie?
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: Surgical Mask and the Hippie.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 11: Surgical Mask and the Hippie.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: I'd tune into that. Come on, guys. Send in your money.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: Winter is coming. That's great.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: Winter is coming. That's season two. First season, it's just
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: sort of fall. Second season, winter is coming.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: Winter is coming.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah. The plants come alive. So here's the thing,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: and this is after all the shit talk that we
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: just gave this guy. I afterwards I was like because
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: I again I wanted to go in kind of I
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: didn't really like I said know that much about it
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: so I was like I kind of want to go
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: in as clean slate as I can and just watch
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: this for what it is and then make my bitchy
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: comments like I did but then afterwards I was like
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: but I do want to know a little bit more
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: about what this thing is So if you go, there
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: is Evan Husney, I think is his last name. I
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: don't know if he did then, but now he works
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: for Vice and he put out this little short film.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: He's the guy that got it picked up. He's the reason.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 11: He's that behind it.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: So he's almost responsible, which is what you get to
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: in the end of his little short film is how
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: much he feels responsible. responsible for how this all came about.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: But he put together this, he actually, it is interesting
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: that he was there from the beginning. Like I thought
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: it was going to be like a little retrospect thing
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: that Vice put together. but like way after the fact
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: when it became a big cult hit this guy met
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: him before like he'd made the movie but before any
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: of this happened because he's driving around sunday he didn't
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: get accepted into sundance he drove around so he drove
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: around with a bird stuck on the side of his
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: car and these hand-drawn signs misspelled mind you with the
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: name of his own movie and like was handing out
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: flyers for like hey instead like he got him to
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: play it at a bar or something and he was
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: like giving people flyers come on over and watch my
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: movie kind of thing and this guy met him that
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: night and like was shooting pictures of him in the
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: car so they have all this like background stuff from
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: that far back in the thing and then they have
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: pictures of him and his friend go there that night
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: and see the movie that he was advertising and immediately
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: is just like this is the story to tell right here.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make a documentary. This is it. So
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: like these, these starts with these two guys and eventually this,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: this guy kind of continues on for years doing this
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: run with him that like, then he like, because of him,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: like it ends up kind of getting picked up by
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: this little distributor and then it gets all this attention
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: and then he goes with him and kind of documents
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: the stuff that's going on. So it's like this little
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: like documentary kind of thing is only about 26 minutes long,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: but it's got a good window of like, how it
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: comes together a little background then on him so that's
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: the thing as we get into this I'm just like
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: I still kind of was thinking going in like it
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: it may have been more of like a very conscious
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: thing of him like you know at that point sci-fi
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: had already started making those kind of crappy movies so
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: it does you could very easily assume that it was
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: made to be one of those and I think I
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: still had like even then I was like this thing
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: is really bad and like I think I went in
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: assuming that it was made to be a bad movie.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: And that's why a lot of this stuff kind of
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: falls flat and it doesn't work. Once you get in
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: and you start talking to the director, James Wynn, the
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: man who wrote and created this story, he's a hundred
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: percent earnest about it. And like, I didn't expect that.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: And you also get in and we pick up with
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: him like way after the fact and we go to
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: his house, but it's, I'm pretty sure it's his parents.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: And he's got a room there that's his studio that's
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: like an old school Dell that's like where he edited
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: the first movie. Like that's where he did it was
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: actually right there. Screw you, Mac. He doesn't need your
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: editing software. He's doing it the old fashioned way. So
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: I thought, but yeah, I'm like, once you get in
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: and he's got, once again, he's got all these Hitchcock
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: posters on the wall and like little autographed photos of him.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Like it's his fucking hero. So like you see all
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: this kind of unfold there and then you see this
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: guy that's like, the the filmmaker evan is like he's
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: watching like in retrospect i guess as he's narrating it
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: going well then the reason all this happens and he
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: gets like this big expectation because you you follow him
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: as he goes to this next level where then it
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: kind of becomes a cult hit and it gets picked
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: up by all this press and like everybody starts talking
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: about it and he's on like the there's a weird
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: little blurb at the bottom of like the la times
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: or something he's like look i'm on the front page
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: and it's like down here like it's like everything about
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: him is like dude you're killing me like this is
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: so depressing the more you get into it because then
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: he's like he really he's like so much oblivious a
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: little bit to what's going on that like, yes, people
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: kind of think it's funny, but he still feels like
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: he made a good movie like forever. He still is
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: like explaining why he thinks it's a good movie. And like,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: he is aware enough that he's like, there are times
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: when he's like, I believe the budget is $ 10, 000. So,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are moments when he's like, well, I mean,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: that's what you get for $ 10, 000. Like he's not stupid.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: And that's the part. It's like, if he really was
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: just like, this guy's clueless. Like he just doesn't know
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: what's going on. He's just aware enough that he's like,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: real world like he wanted to have better effects and
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: he's like well this is what i could get but
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: then he kind of convinces himself that those birds look
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: okay like there's like moments when you're like no that's
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: not okay dude like i understand you have no money
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: i understand that but this doesn't look good like so
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: there's that aspect and then you get further into that
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: and again i guess if you don't want to hear
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: it stop now and go watch the actual thing but
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: like at that point he gets like, Warner Brothers gets
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: a hold of him. He's like, we think we want
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: to make the sequel to it. You know, we kind
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: of like what you're doing and it's getting a lot
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: of buzz and we might be interested in putting something together.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: And again, being completely ignorant about the business, starts, like,
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: going on Twitter and announcing that Warner Brothers is going
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: to make the sequel. He goes on talk shows and
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: is telling people they didn't sign a deal. They just
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: said we're kind of interested. We're kind of interested. So
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: that kills it. And, like, already he's like, he may
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: not have gotten it anyway, but he definitely liked totally
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: sank the whole idea with this constant building it up
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: and running. Like you don't talk about shit like that
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood. That is not how their system works. And
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: he's just so outside the system. He doesn't even know that.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: So he screws himself on that one. And then at
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: some point, like he's going in, like somebody eventually backs
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: him to make the sequel. So there is that sequel,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: which I'm kind of interested, but then the more I
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: hear about it, it's like, he also kind of loses
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: control of it. It still doesn't have much of a budget.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: The effects still look bad, but now everybody else in
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: it is self-aware because of the first movie. So there
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: isn't any earnestness anymore. It's just a sci-fi bad movie
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: made to be a bad movie. So now it's kind
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: of lost that. And he lost control of a lot.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: Like even he's like, that's not the movie I wanted
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: to make. So now it's like, even the bad sequel
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: isn't what he wanted. So he's going in like, okay,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: I've got my hopes up. Like maybe we can make
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: a third one. And like, I can finally make the
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: one I want to make. And now it'll get picked up.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: So like, the i think again i think maybe it's
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: the director of this short film that's like gets him
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: a deal with this like agent or it's somebody in
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: hollywood that kind of knows the system and he's in
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: there again just so oblivious he's just like well you
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: know i i wanted you know like 20 30 million
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: dollars i want to put that into this third movie
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: and really make it the big thing i've always and
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: he's like yeah i don't like i mean it just
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: He's trying, he knows he's on camera. So it's kind
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: of like the, the James is kind of like trying
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: to keep it together, but like, you can see him
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: like just being deflated every, the guy's trying to be
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: as nice as he can, but like, yeah, I don't
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: see that happening. And like, even if somebody gave you
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: like $ 10 million, like there's no way you'd be able
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: to get them what they need. And like, I mean,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: he's just putting it as nicely as possible, but there's
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: no way this is going to happen. So like you're
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: walking out of this business meeting with him and he's
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: just kind of like, well, that was good. And he
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: had some good information for me and some advice. And
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my God, this is killing me. So,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, as we get into it, like you also see,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: and that's why it's interesting why you've got our Evan,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: the filmmaker that's just shooting this documentary going, I kind
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: of created this. Like none of this would have happened.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't have had this good thing happened that then
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: also built him up that like, Oh, now I get
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: to be, you know, I have this dream of being
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: a big filmmaker and now like, I'm kind of a joke.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: And the only thing I'm known for is this movie
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: that people make fun of. And like, I'm still not
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: going to get to do what I want to do.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: Like everything just kind of falls flat for him. And
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's still like, again, by the end, like
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: nothing is fixed. And like, you feel so bad for
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: this dude. And what's worse is I'm sitting there going, wow,
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: I feel a lot like James. Like, I really, like,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: I am pulling parallels like right and left and I'm like,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: son of a bitch.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 9: I'm like.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing's really working out, and I keep throwing myself
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: at doing this thing that I think is really cool
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: and effective, and maybe I'm just blind to the fact
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: that nobody else cares about it. But it's true. It
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: is one of those, you watch how much it does
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: not click with him. He still thinks he made a
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: good movie. He still thinks he's going to be a
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: big director in Hollywood. And I'm like, you wonder at
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: that point how deluded... are you about your own life?
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: When you're like the shit that I want to do,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: that's important to me. And I think I'm, I'm doing
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: a good job with, it only takes one little pivot
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: on the other side. And you're like, Whoa, you're way off. Like,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: and you don't necessarily ever see that. So it's like,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: there are those moments when I'm like, this guy's really
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: loves film and he loves what he's trying to do.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: And it's just not working out for him. And odds
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: are it's not gonna work out for him. And is
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: he ever really going to admit that to himself? So
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: there is that moment where I'm just like, oh, fuck.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: I'm killing myself trying to keep this dumb show together
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: that nobody cares about.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: I'm James.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but we're all James.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: And that was it. I'm like, to some extent, we
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: kind of all are. But I'm like, it is one
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: of those. And that's why I was like earlier, I
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: was like, and I'll come back around to that. Like,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: I guess the moral of it all is. do what
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: you want to do. And I guess don't set your
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: hopes that like you're going to be super successful about
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: it all. And hopefully you're just making what you want
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: to make and find a way to get by. Cause that's,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: that becomes the hard part is trying to do what
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: you love and even break even enough to survive. That's
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: the hard part. Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: If you, if you were doing what you.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 10: Half of what you want to do and people pay
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 10: you handsomely.
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  Speaker 9: For it, You're a lucky motherfucker.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: That is like a unicorn that, you know.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean, I think we all struggle with that.
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  Speaker 5: You know, especially if you're doing something artistic.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, if you're a lawyer or a doctor. You're
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 11: doing that.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't care.
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  Speaker 11: I don't think that you have that.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I can't say that.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: But even then, even those guys and girls out there,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: are they him as a software salesman? It's that same thing.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: Are they going through the motions of being a lawyer?
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: But really, I'm like, man, I just want to paint.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: I just want to go into ballet.
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  Speaker 5: And even in that, there's like... oh, well, I'm a
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: lawyer at whatever, but I really want to be a
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: lawyer here because I'm a joke as a lawyer at whatever.
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  Speaker 11: You know, so I mean, I think it's, everybody goes
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 11: through it.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 11: But yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 5: The main thing is, and that's what I thought about
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: that movie, is it was pretty earnest and like, dude,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 5: if this is your thing.
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  Speaker 11: Then do it.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: And I can be shitty and laugh about something, but
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 5: I can't be shitty about somebody. Yeah.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: I won't lie. I still think it's a bad movie.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: But again, it's like you almost need to watch the
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: documentary beforehand and you will see an entirely different movie.
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  Speaker 5: But I feel like it's a bad movie because I'm like,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: I'm not a filmmaker, but I've watched enough movies to
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: know that I should probably do something different than that. Right.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: And maybe that's it. Maybe it also is encouraging to
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: be like, okay, this is what you want to do.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: you got to put a good amount of work into it.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe beforehand, like maybe you need to figure out some
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: of the least basics of what you need to do
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: and how you need to get the message across of
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: whatever your art form is and get it out there
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: to people so that it lands and isn't kind of
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: weird and awkward all the time. I think this is
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: what I, to, to get back to fundamentals.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 10: I think this is exactly what I like about bad
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 10: film in, in that, it's very pure it is it's
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 10: very pure and it it is so honest yeah and
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 10: that is all that you get is this uh you're
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 10: you're getting an honest story poorly told.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: Perhaps but you know you're you're you're getting it honestly
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: told you i mean and it's super again i say
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's Also very pure in an artistic sense,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: even if you're a little better at it. That's, again,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: to draw from a recent episode, talking about a really
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: early movie with John Waters, they didn't know what the
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: hell they were doing. Again, I keep asking him this stuff,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: and he's just like, permits? We just shot out on
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: the street and then ran away when the cops came.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: You see, watching stuff like that always amazes me, too, because...
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: It's so pure and raw in its own weird way
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: that it really was.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 5: But there's still an understanding of how it all works.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, even he was calling himself out for
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: some of these. Like, that shot shouldn't have been in there. So, like,
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: he's learning, too. Like, it is a learning experience.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 11: But, you know, like, there's a whole, like, outsider art thing, right? Like,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 11: it was a thing on its own, and then it became.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 11: Like the sci-fi channel.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: But even going back to something like Multiple Maniacs was
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: the one he was shooting then. And I'm like, that
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: is like amazing almost because it just captures this time
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: and place and like Maybe that's why I'm more encouraging
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: of like, you go hang out with your friends and
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: shoot stuff because that's all he was doing. And he really,
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing, didn't have any aspirations that it was gonna
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: go win him an Oscar or make millions of dollars
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: because of as weird as it was. He was self-aware
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: enough to know it's me and my weird friends and
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: this is what we decided to do with our time.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: But like, I think it's very honest about what it
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: wants to be and about who these people are. Even
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: if they're playing, again, slight variation characters but they're still
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: kind of his weird friends and that's a lot of
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: what was you know really going on in that scene
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: so they made up a story but it does such
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: a great job of like capturing this time and place
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: and who his friends were and the kind of stuff
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: that was going on around them at that point in
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: time so it's like i love that kind of stuff
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: so i'm like that's the kind of stuff you need
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: to focus on whether or not you need to put
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: exploding birds in it Like, that's the part when I'm like,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: just go, like, make your stuff and make it pure
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: and good in your eyes. And, like, hopefully it's not,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: you know, laughed at by everyone. But even if it is,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: fuck them. So we return to Birdemic, which is completely
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: lacking in any kind of character depth or... But he tried.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: He tried. But he tried.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 5: But.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 10: That's one of those things that if you don't know
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 10: that fundamental, right, the fundamental of storytelling, which is development
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 10: of the character and so that the audience cares about
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 10: who's in peril, then, you know, there's no point in it.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 5: But.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: I still enjoyed it. I still enjoyed it. That's the thing.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: Once again, it almost backfired on him because it became
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: a cult hit. I feel like if it was one
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: of those, he made it out of pocket, I'm sure,
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: and then nothing came of it, it is one of
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: those much like John looking back at his friends. James
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: can look back and be like, oh yeah, this was
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: my friend Johnny and he worked in the convenience store.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: It is still just him shooting this weird idea that
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: he came up with so if it was just him
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: and his friends and 20 years sitting around looking at
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: it like it would still be kind of amazing it's
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: just it's the sad part is only that it became
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: a joke and it got his hopes up really high
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: that he could get to do more and so far
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: he hasn't.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 5: Been able to yeah i mean what's worse like just
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 5: making the cool thing that you had fun with or
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 5: making the thing that people start to laugh at you
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 5: don't realize that the joke is on you.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: Or is it, again, is it better to just get
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: by and have low expectations and have them delivered upon,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: you know, to actually do what little goals you set
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: for yourself? Or do you, like, reach the summit and, like,
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: you are the biggest thing in the world in your
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: little cult movie world and then just plummet to the
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: other end and never get it back again?
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 5: Because it goes back to what you said.
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  Speaker 11: You cannot make a cult.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: You can't. Film on purpose. I mean, it's pretty damn
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: hard to even make something that's self-aware that works for me.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: There's a few that are at least trying to do
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: that and are smart enough and write it really well.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: And it creates kind of something else, I feel like.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: But to do something like make a bad movie on purpose,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like that never works right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's contrived.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: You can't do that.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 5: It's weird.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: So do what you love, people. that's our sappy ass
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: message but.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 5: It's true we're old enough to know that the things
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 5: that we care about probably most people.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: Don't I certainly know that I was.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 5: Thinking about something Paul did and I thought it was
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 5: totally genius and then I thought well you know I'm
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 5: kind of a weirdo like not intentionally and not whatever
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 5: but I've noticed that I tend to like things that
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 5: most people don't seem to pick up on.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: Paul's a good example actually I mean, again, I go
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: back to how far back I know you, but originally
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: that came from a musical endeavor. How many years later
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: is it and you're still putting music together?
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 9: Have you signed a multi-billion dollar deal?
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: Or are you just doing it because you put together
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: good music and like you actually like have good songs to,
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: you know, pass along to people. You're telling a story
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: in your own way. Well, the jury's still out on that.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: But it's not because I've heard it. You do have
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: legitimately good stuff, and whether or not it makes millions
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: of dollars or not, the stuff is there, and you've
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: captured it, and you've created it.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 10: That's actually something that I did want to talk about
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 10: in relation to Birdemic was that it doesn't matter... I
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 10: don't know what his goal was, but the goal of
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 10: any artistic endeavor, if it is truly, purely artistic is
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 10: that you put it out in the world because you're
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 10: driven to put it out into the world that you're
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 10: driven to create it and that you're driven to, um,
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 10: you know, assemble it in a, you know, artistic way that, that,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 10: speaks to you and you hope speaks to other people,
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 10: but it doesn't have to.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: You know, you're just taking a risk. You're taking a chance.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: You're doing it anyway. Or there are a handful of
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: people that it will still always work on. Like, again,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: I still have... Burdemic worked on me. I have a
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: CD that you put together, like, umpteen years ago that
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: I still listen to. I'm sure it was crap. It's...
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: I disagree. But I'm saying, like, for that, like, again,
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: there are probably a lot of people listening that don't
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: have that CD. But I do, and I still listen
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: to it, and I still think it's good. I still
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: have a couple of Gina's paintings that I'm... when I
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: find a home because I'm poor and broke like James,
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to hang them back on the wall. Like
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: once again, even if you're not creating new paintings now,
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: all that stuff you did somewhere along the way, found
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: it to people and it's probably still hanging in someone's
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: home and they care about it. Like there are parts
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: of this artistic endeavors that we do that I still
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: reach people. Like even if you're not super successful about it,
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: if you reach these individual people, it still works. Your
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: mission is accomplished whether you made money on it or not.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: It's like if it reaches even a couple of people,
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: it's working on some level. The goal is to communicate.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you don't put stuff out there
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 5: because you think you're going to be a.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: I hope not. And again, it's like I don't think
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: we think about that sometimes, especially the industry that Hollywood is.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: It's like you're still... It's not making money. He didn't
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: get signed to a $ 30 million deal after this. So
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: it does seem like, oh, now it's a failure. But
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: how many people saw this movie? Like, how many people...
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: How many people get to make a movie? That's what
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. How many people make a bad movie on
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: their computer at home and then maybe they put it
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: up on YouTube now, but even then, how many of
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: them have 200 hits on YouTube versus how many people
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: have seen this guy's movie? Whether they think it's bad
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: or not, how many people did he reach with this
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: concept that he had that got out there to people?
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 9: Like, it's impressive, really.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like the same with music.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, are we reaching a time when.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 5: The common man, woman, woman, can make a movie.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: I want to make a movie. I'm going to make one.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: Who cares?
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 11: I'm going to put it out there.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 5: You know, I mean, it's a cool time.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 5: You can be whatever you want. You can be an
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 5: accountant and a movie maker. You can work at Kroger,
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 5: like cutting ham, and you can make a movie.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's awesome. Massaging ham. I'm going to job
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: massaging ham. I think that's a movie right there. Yeah,
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: it could be a movie. It's probably for the internet, too.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: On a very special site but you know what I'm
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: saying that we should start right now I feel.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 5: Like it's fun to make fun of bad movies but
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 5: you know I applaud people for putting it out there
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 5: and doing it.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: And the ones that I do respond to the most
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: are the most earnest ones like and that's why I
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: almost go back when I look at like what are
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: supposed to be bad movies that I really like they're
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: almost always dated like it's rare this is like a
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: really recent one as far as bad movies go but
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: like When I look at ones that I love, it's
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: like stuff from the 80s or the 70s where they're
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: super unaware of how cheesy this stuff is that's going
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: on as far as special effects, if you even have those.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: But that kind of stuff, to me, becomes endearing as
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: time goes on. Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean, maybe, again,
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: maybe if we fast forward another 20 years and you
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: look back at these horrible bird animations... it's going to
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: be like 8-bit graphics. Now people love 8-bit bullshit. It's
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: like the 8-bit music, 8-bit graphics are now so beloved
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: by weird kids that didn't even play it originally because
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: they're too young. It's the same thing.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 5: It's like liking Captain Beefheart when you're a kid.
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 10: I'd like to point out in the early 1960s, Attack
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 10: of the Killer Shrews, starring James Best.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: Exactly. TV's Roscoe P. Coltrane. I met that man briefly,
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: right before he died.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 10: And he was in a movie called Attack of the
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 10: Killer Shrews, and they had these giant killer shrews that
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 10: were actually dogs that had these.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: Dogs with a fur coat strapped to their head.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 9: Fur coat tied to their body.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. And they would attack. Very obvious, that's what
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: it is. It was so... It was such horrible, obvious
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: special effects, but it was still riveting for the storytelling
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: and it worked and it was still cool.
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 5: I think I feel that way about Motel Hill.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: Motel Hill? Again, all of these decades were so like,
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: innocent in a way like motel hell was something i
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: watched as a kid which explains why i am the
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: way now i would watch it anytime it was all
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: that crap on cable that i should not have been
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: watching i was watching every night It is one of those.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: It's just a weird, earnest, we want to make this
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: weird story. Nobody questioned them back then. Now I think
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: everything boils down so much to money. I mean, I
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: guess Hollywood's always been like that. But it seemed like
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: they used to let you take a shot sometimes back then,
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: where now, if anything happens now, it's because you're doing
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: it yourself on your iPhone. Like, it's rare that studios
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: are going to get behind something that weird. Same for
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: music industry, too. Yeah, that's true. They used to take
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: way more chances.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 10: Now it's down to an.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: Algorithm, right?
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 9: If you don't fall into the category, then I'm sorry.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 5: Movies and music, at least now there's the ability to
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 5: do it on your own.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: Way more than there ever was. So now you just
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: do it by yourself.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 11: And who cares if it sucks?
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: Just put it out there. Yeah. I mean, that is
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: a good example, though. I mean, think how many people
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: were in bands. Like, in high school, I was in
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: a band. And you think back on it and, like,
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: if you play the music now, maybe the person who
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: was even in the band is like, oh, that's terrible.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: But those, like, times that they had may be the
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: best times of their life. You know, it's like you
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: do have these tie-ins to whatever you were involved in
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: back in the day that, like, were creative outlets for you.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: And maybe you went on to become a lawyer or something. But, like,
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: it does have this, like, special place. For you, and
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: this experience turned you into who you are. So I'm like,
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: maybe James, he's going to be a cool, better dude
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: down the line. This was like a growing experience. I hope,
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: and I hope that he makes.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 9: 20 more movies, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: Is the third one supposed to be the sea eagles
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: or was that the same? Yeah, that's what he keeps. Okay,
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: so then that's it. Even in this documentary thing, he
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: keeps going up. That's the one he wants like $ 10
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: million and he wants a big studio to back.
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  Speaker 5: Which answers why the eagles are going out to sea.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: Because, you know, sea eagles. Sea eagles. Sea eagles. We
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: have to salute when we say that. Sea eagles. Sea eagles.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: Sea eagles. So, yeah. Steven Seegers. Which, that's, again, back
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: to being kind of sad. Like, the second movie is
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: the last thing he's done, according to IMDb. Like, he didn't,
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: so far, as of this recording, he has not made
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: a third one. He's also just not made another movie
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: since then on IMDb. So, I'm like, that's the part
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: that gets kind of sad is when You have all
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: these aspirations and the world beats them out of you.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: That like you just continue to be not successful or you.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 9: Don't get to do the things you want to do.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: I know. And it's the sad freaking part of the story.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: Life sucks.
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  Speaker 10: The problem is that you listen to the rest of
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 10: the world.
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  Speaker 5: It is.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: You have to stop. paying attention to the rest of
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: the world and look at you.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 11: Want to do you have to be the fool like
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 11: ready to walk.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 10: You have to be the fool absolutely yeah until you
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 10: were suddenly not the fool so flip.
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: That card over and that's right maybe it's death yeah
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: that's fine but that just means change sweet good sweet
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: death it's a change for you and you'll go on
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: and you'll become an accountant or a guitar player you'll
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: do whatever the hell you want to do and who
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: cares what people think yeah including us amen so everything
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: we just said never mind all that all those horrible
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: things we said about the movie never.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 11: Mind yeah no i don't want to say horrible things.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: Except for that part that where you do what you
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: want to do that's important that's take that with do
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: that do that and wear a bikini to grow oh.
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  Speaker 22: Yeah wear a bikini if there's oh and imagine peace
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  Speaker 22: If there's anybody that wants to volunteer for that, send photos,
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 22: and I can probably do it.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 11: You're looking for grindies?
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm much like the movie. I'm also
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: not taking my clothes off, so nobody wants that. BikiniPromotion.com.
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  Speaker 1: Doing you all a favor.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 5: Paul can get you a sheet with a hole.
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bikinipromotion.org. That's for the best, really. And we can
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: watch that ham slicing video while it's going on. Oh,
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: that's going to be so hot, dude. Ham massaging. It's
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: going to be so hot. Ham massaging. Oh, I was
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: taking a little. I was getting a little. Sheetwithahole.org. Slice
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: that ham. That's right.
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  Speaker 9: Sheetwithahole.org.gov.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: They have to buy all those sites now.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 9: Stop saying those.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: Sheetwithahole.gov.
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  Speaker 9: It's part of the park service. Actually, I can see that.
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  Speaker 20: This is our tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: And as we're speaking about making dreams come true... You should... No,
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: screw that. You should really go to our website and
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: support us on Patreon because otherwise I'm going to die
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: in the street. sheetwithahole.gov.
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  Speaker 9: That's not it.
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, sorry. I mean, if you give us, we'll make
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: that like a special level. If you give us enough donation,
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: then we'll give you a sheet with a hole in it. Now,
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 1: what you do with it from there is up to you,
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: but kick in like, you know, 30 bucks a month
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: and we'll give you a sheet with a hole in it.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: How about that? But other than that, screw that. Two bucks.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: That's all we're looking for to keep this train running.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: As I said, I feel a little too much like
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: James these days. So I don't end up like he does.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: The executive level. And I'm hoping he pulls it out.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: The executive level receives a sheetwithahole.gov sheet.
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  Speaker 11: It doesn't exist.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. Not yet. So we go buy it. Quick,
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: go to domain.com. And buy sheetwithahole.gov. And buy sheetwithahole.gov.
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  Speaker 8: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: MovieMeltdown.com. Hit the Patreon link. MovieMeltdown.com. Make this.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 11: MovieMeltdown.com.
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  Speaker 1: Make this show survive.
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  Speaker 8: Do it.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Dreams can come true. So, do
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: what you love, people. That having been said, otherwise that
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: about does it. We will return next time saying Geek Feed.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Just a small.
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  Speaker 6: Town girl living in a lonely world. She took the
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 6: midnight train going anywhere.
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  Speaker 12: Just a city boy born and raised in South Detroit.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: He took the midnight train going anywhere.
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  Speaker 6: A smell of wine and cheap perfume.
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  Speaker 12: For a smile.
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  Speaker 5: They can share the night It goes on.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 12: And on and on and on Strangers waiting Up and
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 12: down the boulevards and shadows Streetlight people, living just to
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 12: find emotion.
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: It's been hard.
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  Speaker 12: To get my feel Everybody wants a thrill.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 8: Paying anything to roll the dice Just one more time
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  Speaker 8: Some will win, some will.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: Lose I'm about to sing.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: The blues And while the.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: Movie never ends It goes on and.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 12: On and on and on Strangers waiting Up and down
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  Speaker 12: the boulevard There's shadows searching in the night Streetlight.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: People Living just to.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 12: Find emotion Hiding.
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  Speaker 2: Don't stop believing. Hold on to that feeling. Stay like people.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 2: Don't stop believing Hold on to that feeling Streetlight people Don't.
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  Speaker 5: Stop Two hours later Is it sheet with a hole
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  Speaker 5: or hole in a sheet?
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: Sheet with a hole Sheet with a hole Sheep with
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: a hole. Oh, that's a different one.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 11: I think we leave on the third.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: Those sheeps have a hole, too.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 9: And from what I hear, that's what goes on out
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 9: in those Shepard areas.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: Shepardsville? Yikes. That happens in Shepardsville?
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
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  Speaker 1: It exists. $ 10 a year. Sheetwithahole.com. Well, they all exist.
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 11: No, it was sheetwithahole.gov.
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: It's just whether or not you claim it. Gov's going
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: to be a little harder to get. Yeah, that's... If
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: you want org, I have like 20 domains if.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 2: You need one.
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 11: You don't have sheetwithahole.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: Which, by the way, sheetwithahole.org is only $ 15 a year.
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 9: I can get a better deal, actually. Better than $ 15
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 9: a year. That's a little pricey.
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: Sheetwithahole.space is only $ 3 a year. I didn't know that
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: dot space was a thing.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 11: What about dot co dot uk?
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: That's the weird thing. You can kind of dot anything now.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: It's really weird how much it will allow you to.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: Sheet with a hole dot hole. Dot co. Probably. Dot uk.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So if you guys are ready. You can come back
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: in a future episode. If you guys listening, don't ever
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: want them to come back. Just email in and let
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: me know.. co. uk is $ 30.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 5: Because I think that I sound okay. Then I hear myself.
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: Right after you hit that Patreon link, then you can
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 1: email me and tell me if you want them to
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: come back.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 5: Let them know by mailing sheetwithahole.com.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 10: Sheetwithahole.co.uk is $ 30 a year if you.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: Go to domain.com right now. We're not being backed by them.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: Screw those guys.
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 9: Sheet with a hole dot design is $ 40 a year.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: Who wants that? Sheet with a hole dot news.
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I need to keep up with all the sheet
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 11: with a hole news.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: Is there a dot biz? Oh, my God. There's a
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: sheet with a hole dot ninja. I told you you
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: can do anything dot now. Oh, my God. Any kind
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: of dot that you want.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 11: Can we make sheet with a hole happen?
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know why not.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 11: All you need is a sheet with a hole.
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 9: Send your donations now for a sheet with a hole. sheetwithahole.fun Oh,
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 9: it is. If you're doing it right, it is.
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: Sheetwithahole.net is $ 11. How come no.
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 5: One's taking sheet with a hole?
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You were slacking is why. Get on
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: this shit.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 9: I'm telling you, it's the perfect art project.
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: You have like a sheet with a hole blog. Of
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: all of the fun you can have with a sheet
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: with a hole.
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 11: No, it's just a sheet with a hole every day
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 11: that you take a picture of.
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 1: The same one. Yeah. But are there other things on
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: the side of the sheet with a hole?
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 8: Maybe.
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait, wait, wait. I think I've got it. Maybe
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: you take the sheet with a hole out into the
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 1: world and every day you take a picture of it,
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: but where you are, you get different things behind the hole.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 15: Or in the hole Or climbing through the hole So
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 15: we went to the grocery store yesterday We were at
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 15: the grocery store every day For some reason And there
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 15: was a guy picking out bananas Two hours later Another
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 15: woman and.
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 10: A guy And they're all standing there Gina rolls up
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 10: and she gets her banana And she goes, oh, here's
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 10: the banana I grab it and I put it in
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 10: the basket And she's out And we're still wandering around
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 10: And we're like, okay, let's see Let's see what else
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 10: we need.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe some squash, maybe some avocados, whatever. Eight hours later.
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  Speaker 9: I got to tell you, he's my favorite Kroger guy.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 11: More than belligerent meat guy?
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 10: He's way better than belligerent meat guy. He's like the
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 10: guy that narrates your exit.
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: From the Kroger.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 10: He tells you everything that you purchased, and more so,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 10: and more.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 9: With more feeling and gusto than the automated teller.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: You scan.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: She gets sassy.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 5: But we have the belligerent meat guy, so you ask
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 5: for something and he's like.
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. Oh, God. Eyes crossing. I guess I can
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: massage this ham, but it's really creepy that you're asking me.
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 5: I need you to massage that ham, sir.
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