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Best of Chuck & Buck 2-25 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: I got that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I hope that. I hope that's the case
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  Speaker 2: for everybody. Hope you got a smile on your face,
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  Speaker 2: a snap on your finger, and a pep in your step.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. It is Chuck and Ashley with you know,
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  Speaker 2: Bucky Jacobson, we'd Jazzy because he's not here, and we've
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  Speaker 2: got headlines coming up at seven o'clock. Also Greg Bell
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  Speaker 2: coming up at seven oh five. Last week, Bucky and
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  Speaker 2: I were in spring training. He liked it so much
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  Speaker 2: he saved he saved up some money to stay down
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  Speaker 2: there for a week. So Bucky's down there in spring
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  Speaker 2: and Arizona with his family having a good end old time.
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  Speaker 2: But last week we did our spring training coverage. Sawid
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  Speaker 2: Helbe Network was there yesterday. Good luck trying to top
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  Speaker 2: what we did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's gonna be even half of what
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  Speaker 1: you guys did.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of admire like the guts that Greg Amsinger
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  Speaker 2: showed in just showing his face a week after a
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  Speaker 2: week he.
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  Speaker 1: Probably felt foolish.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, anyway, that was a cute try. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: the mayor arners this week, I've spent a few segments
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  Speaker 2: talking about what I learned because we obviously didn't get
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  Speaker 2: into all of it last week. Here's another thing that
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  Speaker 2: I learned, and that is just how joyous this organization
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  Speaker 2: is right now. I mean, Justin Hollander was floating while
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  Speaker 2: we were down there. Jerry Depoto, I've never seen him
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  Speaker 2: happier and man, and he's deserved it. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: just been crushed by the media in this town and
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  Speaker 2: this fan base for so many years now consecutively, even
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  Speaker 2: though he'd created a winning product here in Seattle, and
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  Speaker 2: then he wins Executive of the Year and I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of those fans that were crushing him are
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  Speaker 2: starting to see the game plan come together. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this team pulled off, this organization, I should say, has
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  Speaker 2: pulled off one of the more difficult things to achieve
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  Speaker 2: in baseball. They've not only turned themselves into a championship
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  Speaker 2: contender right now, but it came without having to jeopardize
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  Speaker 2: the future as well. I mean, they are really set
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  Speaker 2: up nicely. They are a world championship contender, the American
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  Speaker 2: League favorite to make it to the World Series, and
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  Speaker 2: they're being discussed as having the best, you know, farm
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  Speaker 2: class and all of the sport. I mean, maybe not
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  Speaker 2: the top of the heap, but closer to the top
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  Speaker 2: than they are to the middle. That's true, I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you that. And Michael Arroyo yesterday was named on an
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  Speaker 2: article I saw at MLB Network as one of the
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  Speaker 2: five prospects turning heads in all of baseball at spring training.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a guy we've hardly even mentioned. Is Michael
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  Speaker 2: Arroyo their second baseman slash shortstop prospect who they've refused
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  Speaker 2: to involve in trades. And he's starting to turn heads
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  Speaker 2: and create buzz down there in Arizona now that the
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  Speaker 2: games are underway. And then there's Las Montes. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there just aren't a lot of prospects that you come
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  Speaker 2: across that, you know, people kind of project forty to
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  Speaker 2: fifty home runs potential for him in the future. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's a long way to go from prospect to hitting
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  Speaker 2: forty homers in a season, right, you know, And so
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  Speaker 2: we're not putting that expectation on him, and we are certainly,
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  Speaker 2: you know, not guaranteeing anything. You do open the door
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  Speaker 2: to the possibility that maybe it just doesn't click at
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  Speaker 2: the major league level. But he is a mountain of
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  Speaker 2: a man. He's about as nice a person as you
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  Speaker 2: could meet, and he has been the MVP every season
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  Speaker 2: wherever he's at in the league. Yeah, that's crazy since
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  Speaker 2: he started professional baseball, which is insanity. So we forget.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you've built a team that doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 2: have any really gaping holes right now, which is great.
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  Speaker 2: How often has that happen in Mariner's history. How many
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  Speaker 2: times you got into spring training and thought to yourself, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: there aren't really any significant holes. Maybe never Yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: then on top of it, you also have this layer
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  Speaker 2: of prospects that you're not accounting or expecting to do anything,
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  Speaker 2: but there is a potential that if they take their
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  Speaker 2: game to the next level during the minor league process
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  Speaker 2: this year, we'll elevate them. We're not going to be
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  Speaker 2: scared of elevating. We're in a championship window. We're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna be worried about stepping on toes or hurting feelings.
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  Speaker 3: If he's the.
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  Speaker 2: Better man for the job, we'll promote him, and we
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  Speaker 2: will promote him the moment that he's ready. And who
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  Speaker 2: knows what Las Montes can do if in fact, he
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  Speaker 2: is ready for the major leagues versus any one of
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  Speaker 2: the other four outfielders that are going to comprise the
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  Speaker 2: right field job and the DH job. I wouldn't anticipate
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  Speaker 2: Las Montes being a significant contributor this year, but they
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  Speaker 2: are certainly open to the idea that he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be ready sooner than later. And when he is ready,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to give them an edge that they don't
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  Speaker 2: have currently on the roster. A guy with forty to
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  Speaker 2: fifty home run potential right out of the shoot. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's what we're talking about with this young man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean he definitely told Bucky that he
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  Speaker 4: was ready to hit forty or fifty in the major
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  Speaker 4: They all say that, yeah, but to do and but
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  Speaker 4: I like the confidence, you know, and to say, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: whenever that time comes, I'll be there, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I just I mean, I just love the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they're not closed to the idea of it. And
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  Speaker 2: he probably won't be ready to contribute that heavily to
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  Speaker 2: this season, but we're saying there's a chance.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What we're saying is and what they're saying is is
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  Speaker 2: he's not that far away. And if he proves that
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  Speaker 2: he's closed the gap and he proves to us that
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  Speaker 2: he's ready, we won't be shy about activating him, and
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  Speaker 2: we will not limit our expectations for him, and those
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  Speaker 2: expect that ceiling is a lot higher than any of
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  Speaker 2: the four guys Canzone ref Snyder, Raley or Roblaze that
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  Speaker 2: they currently have occupying two positions right now on the roster.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Greg Bell's next also headline Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 6: Uh, it's interesting the combines have become a little bit
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  Speaker 6: more about, like I said earlier, about what the like
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  Speaker 6: free agency and trades and what's the spring.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna look like.
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  Speaker 6: And then like we just kind of the medical portion's huge,
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  Speaker 6: you know, basically started because you know, the Jets drafted
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  Speaker 6: a guy that was legally buying in one eye, So
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  Speaker 6: the medical parts huge for us. And then all the interviews,
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  Speaker 6: the character, the person, and then it all just kind
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  Speaker 6: of starts, you know, building. These guys are going on
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  Speaker 6: on Monday, they're starting to go to to schools, you know,
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  Speaker 6: to go to the pro days.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I just think it's like it's like it's like the
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  Speaker 6: it's like a I was just telling Jared, it's like
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  Speaker 6: a it's like a reset, Like all right, here we go,
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  Speaker 6: we're moving, you know, and we don't know what next week.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, here we go, like we're gonna be into
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  Speaker 6: the free agency next week. Like I can't tell you
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  Speaker 6: what it's gonna look like.
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  Speaker 7: As if today.
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  Speaker 2: John Schneider talking about the Pajama Party which will start
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow the NFL colm the week is underway. They're doing
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  Speaker 2: all the waiting and the measuring and all of that
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  Speaker 2: stuff and.
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  Speaker 1: Been weighed and measured.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, Heath Ledger, welcome. Well, the NFL Combine
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  Speaker 2: will be a topic with Greg Bell. He went to Indianapa,
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  Speaker 2: he took, he made all they went to all that
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  Speaker 2: trouble to get to Indianapolis. So we're going to of
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  Speaker 2: course chat with him here in a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, I mean, that's that's sort of the long
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  Speaker 2: and short of it. I still think that the NFL
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  Speaker 2: Combine is not going anywhere because it's now a TV
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  Speaker 2: event and it pulls ratings for the NFL network and
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  Speaker 2: for all of us that love Draftmas, it is a
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  Speaker 2: cheat code. It kind of is a cram session for
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  Speaker 2: all of us that didn't watch every single football game
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  Speaker 2: this year and yet want to be familiar with the
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  Speaker 2: players as we get ready for the draft process. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited for it. Can't wait to watch a little
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  Speaker 2: pajama party starting tomorrow, and we'll get the latest from
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  Speaker 2: John Schneider through the lens of Great Bell here in
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  Speaker 2: a minute and change this morning. But let's get to
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  Speaker 7: With the bell tolls.
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  Speaker 3: Here's Greg Bell with Chuck.
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  Speaker 2: And Bud Well. They were April first. I might run
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  Speaker 2: Greg today after he drove sixty five hours from Boston
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  Speaker 2: to Indianapolish, but he wrote his article about his conversation
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  Speaker 2: with John Schneider. You can check that out at the
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  Speaker 2: Newstribune dot com. And here he is our Seahawks insider.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell is with us. How are you.
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  Speaker 7: I'm good, Dan.
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  Speaker 5: You know I would life would march on if you
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  Speaker 5: do what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 2: That would be a little insulting, though, wouldn't it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: If I did it go on eighty five miles an
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  Speaker 5: hour through Ohio yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: I can do it.
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  Speaker 2: Indiana, Well, how are you feeling? Are you tired? Do
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  Speaker 2: you have like jet lag even though you weren't on
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  Speaker 2: a jet.
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  Speaker 7: No, that's just it, No jets, no lag. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: had a long time ago.
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  Speaker 5: It just to taking the entire Eastern times. Pretty flat
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  Speaker 5: Indianapolis just as flat as it was last year.
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  Speaker 7: It's telling as never seems to change.
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  Speaker 5: There, no snow and you know what is different though,
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  Speaker 5: Chuck for the Seahawks. This is almost every year increasingly
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  Speaker 5: gets this way, but more so than I can ever
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  Speaker 5: remember covering a combine. It's not about the college prospects
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  Speaker 5: in the underwear Olympics you're going to see on TV
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  Speaker 5: this weekend. It really is about John Schneider meeting with
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  Speaker 5: these agents for his free agents, chiefly the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 5: MVP kenath Walker, Rashiji he Greek.
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  Speaker 7: Willing, Kobe Bryant.
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  Speaker 5: That is the most important thing John Schnyder is doing.
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  Speaker 5: They are already meeting with those agents formally and formally
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  Speaker 5: coffee shops, meeting rooms, on the phone, and the Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: are already having free agent meetings here in Indianapolis about
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  Speaker 5: how they are, what their news, they're hearing, how much
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  Speaker 5: money it's going to cost. He's getting the initial intel
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  Speaker 5: from agents this week on what they're thinking in terms
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  Speaker 5: of annual salary going forward.
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  Speaker 7: The Seahawks will take that all back to rent next week.
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  Speaker 5: Their analysts will figure out what the cap looks like
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  Speaker 5: with their seventy menster is what Schnyder again emphasized yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: how it all fits in, and the party line continues
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  Speaker 5: to be just we said yesterday, he would say that
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  Speaker 5: he wants to bring everybody back, but he also says,
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  Speaker 5: we got to see how it fits into the seventy
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  Speaker 5: and in the NFL they pretty much legislate you can't
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  Speaker 5: bring everybody back and give him raises at the same
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  Speaker 5: time because of a Stellard cap.
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  Speaker 2: Before the playoffs, before ken Walker starred during the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: before Zach Charbonnet was injured, what was their mindset about
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  Speaker 2: whether or not they were how aggressive they were going
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  Speaker 2: to be toward keeping ken Walker, as you could read it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, not very right because they didn't even offer him something.
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  Speaker 5: They wanted to see Walker play an entire season injury free,
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  Speaker 5: and they saw that, and they wanted to see what
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  Speaker 5: Walker injury free an entire season would look like while
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  Speaker 5: in tandem with Zach Sharbering, and they saw that until
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  Speaker 5: the playoffs when Scharbennage gets hurt early in the provisional
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  Speaker 5: Round game. And then the only time all year Kenneth
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  Speaker 5: Walker looked was in the role that he was in
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  Speaker 5: for most of the first three seasons, the lead back
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  Speaker 5: role with unchallenged no job share. He has the best
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  Speaker 5: three to four game stretch of his career, especially during mistakes.
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  Speaker 7: And become Super Bowl MVP.
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  Speaker 5: So their approach has changed from now to what they
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  Speaker 5: had been doing all up till January and Starbony's injury.
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  Speaker 5: There's a price to that change, and right now the
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  Speaker 5: Seahoks are trying to figure out. Snider's trying to figure
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  Speaker 5: out how high do we want to go on that price?
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  Speaker 7: How much do we want to change what.
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  Speaker 5: We had already budgeted for the running back position going
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  Speaker 5: forward because of starbon Ay's injury, Slash Walker's emergents.
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  Speaker 2: And now now that he has had this, how desperate
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  Speaker 2: do you feel that they are, if at all about
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  Speaker 2: getting him signed.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they had the inside track because he just won
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  Speaker 5: a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 7: Ring with him.
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  Speaker 5: He's the only team he's ever played, They've ever he's
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  Speaker 5: ever played for Walker, and he's still only twenty five
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  Speaker 5: years old. Nobody's gonna know him, nobody's gonna use him
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  Speaker 5: better than Seahawks will. If it's a straight money grab, Chuck,
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  Speaker 5: you would think he's gonna go to free agency and
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  Speaker 5: see how many bidders he can get to drive up
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  Speaker 5: the price. Typically, in this situation, John Schneider asked and
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  Speaker 5: usually gets from the player and his agent a write
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  Speaker 5: a first refusal in that go ahead. We'll let you
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  Speaker 5: shop your first time in free agency, see what you get,
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  Speaker 5: and then come back with the offers you get, and
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  Speaker 5: let us try to match it and see if we
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  Speaker 5: can match it. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Sometimes
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  Speaker 5: players say, you're gonna let me test the market.
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  Speaker 7: I ain't coming back. I have a family. Walker would
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  Speaker 7: come back.
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  Speaker 5: If it got to that point and let the Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: try to match, then of course the number would become
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  Speaker 5: whether that number got higher than the Seahawks are willing
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  Speaker 5: to pay, and I think it will if it gets
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  Speaker 5: to that point, because, as I said, super Bowl MVP
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  Speaker 5: still twenty five years old, it's such an important thing.
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  Speaker 5: Having said all that, remember he plays running back. Remember
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  Speaker 5: this league is really hesitant for the reasons we've been
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  Speaker 5: talking about for a couple of weeks to give long
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  Speaker 5: term second rich second guaranteed money contracts to running backs
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  Speaker 5: for how much they get hurt.
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  Speaker 7: And that also plays in Seattle's favor.
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  Speaker 5: Greg BELLI, if you had to pin me down right now, Chuck,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, if you had to pin me down. I
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  Speaker 5: think he's probably gonna come back. But if if Walker
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  Speaker 5: comes back, then they may they may not get too
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  Speaker 5: many other core guys. They could get proad for sheets
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  Speaker 5: heat and lose the two defensive back of Bryan and Woman.
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  Speaker 5: If Walker does go test the market, I think he's gone.
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  Speaker 5: And if he does, I think perhaps the other three
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  Speaker 5: could come back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of have a feeling the other way.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of feel like he's gone. I think that
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  Speaker 2: there are teams out there that aren't as good as
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  Speaker 2: what they do as John Schneider, that are going to
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  Speaker 2: give a salary that he's just not willing to meet.
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  Speaker 2: So we shall see. Greg Bellis with us our Seahawks insider.
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  Speaker 2: And I do like your video. I mean you look
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  Speaker 2: like some you know CNN reporter outside the Capitol building
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  Speaker 2: with your smart glasses. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, okay, since I talked to you every day, I
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  Speaker 5: tell the inside story of glasses. First of all, they
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  Speaker 5: are for distance. I can I'm fifty going on fifty six.
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  Speaker 5: I can no longer see distance driving at night or
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  Speaker 5: score wards across the stadium.
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  Speaker 7: But I had a mouth surgery.
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  Speaker 5: Last week and my face fell up and I had
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  Speaker 5: a black eye.
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  Speaker 3: It was yellow yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: So I was wearing my glasses everywhere because it looked
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  Speaker 5: like my wife or somebody had just thrown a chair
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  Speaker 5: at my face and I absorbed the whole blow of
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  Speaker 5: a chair or something. But that's the whole reason I
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  Speaker 5: had my glasses on in that video.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think you should wear more often, think you
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  Speaker 2: look smart?
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: No, hey, that appreciate that. I'll tell my wife that
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: somebody said it made me look smarter, which means I'm
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: probably look pretty dumb most times.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks insider. You know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: we've chopped up the ken Walker story obviously, and Shaheed's
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: free agency, and we've even brought up Bryant a number
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: of times. We have really not discussed boy A Mafe.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: So what is their objective with boy A Mafe? I mean,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: what kind of handicap do you give? His chance of
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: remaining a Seahawk?
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: Not very high. I don't think he's the every down,
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: run stopping edge guy that Mike McDonald really wants. Yeah,
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: he can rush the passer occasionally, but even his production
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: there wasn't very high in last year or so. But
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: he's from drafted from a different regime obviously, as anyone
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: beyond two years here was. But seeing how McDonald plays
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: defense and how multiple he wants to be, especially with linebackers.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald would not have drafted boy Mafy in my opinion,
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: and so I don't think they're going to invest.
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: A big, big effort and try to get him back now.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Having said that, Mafey's low production means he may not
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: get too many suitors in the open market anyway, and
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: perhaps the X could bring back on a team friendly
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: deal minimum, so maybe a year or so at most.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Having said that, he's an edgdresser, still young, and those
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: guys coming to premium, but he just doesn't seem production
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: wise and style wise.
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: He's just not multiple enough. In my mind. It's how
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: McDonald likes to play defense.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Greg bell Our guests Seahawks Insider. He's at the Indianapolis
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: NFL Combine. The workouts start tomorrow. But as he wrote
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: today at the News Tribune, this is really about the
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: free agency trades. John Schneider meeting with agents and perhaps
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: other executives to try to craft the start to their
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: off season, and so we dive into some of those
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: topics here this morning with him. What else did John
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: reveal to you that you thought was noteworthy?
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Status quo on the team sale he's met with Jody Allen,
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: who told him and Snyder's words, go get it, let's
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: go rip it, and let's go run it back and
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: do it again. And therefore it's business as usual signing
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: players they'll still have. It's not like a new owner
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: is going to change the money they're going to play players.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: The salary cap in THEFL is what it is no
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: matter who owns a team, so all of that stuff
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: won't change. When I asked Snyder yesterday, does he think
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Jody Allen's still going to be the team chair by
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: the beginning of the next season, he said.
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  Speaker 7: I have no idea.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, Jody Allen's not about to tell him. Here's
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: when the sale is going to happen. From what I'm
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: hearing around the league, they don't have a buyer yet,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: but they just want on sale a week ago.
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: So that's not an alarm or anything.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Still unknown whether there's going to be multiple buyers or
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: just one. Seems like there would be multiple investors and
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: that's going to change. I talked to Snyder and how
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: he operates. I talked about that with him, and he
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: said sure. The actual interpersonal dynamics of someone that he's
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: been talking with and it was Paul Allen first and
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: until his death seven years ago.
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: Then Jody Allen.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: That's going to be a change no matter who comes in,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: but the football of it, no, and not of the
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: signing players and any of that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: He did say, as I told you he would.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: We knew he would. He wants to bring everyone back
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: because especially this year. He says that every year, but
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: he said especially because they just won the Super Bowl,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: and that he noted even during the parade, he said,
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: he noted the veteran players say.
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: Let's get everybody back so we can do this again.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Even though that's almost physically physistically impossible to do. Other
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: things I'm hearing around the combine, Chuck. The Seahawks are,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: I won't. I'll say a really good chance they're going
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: to play in a national game. But now the slaughts
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: are starting to fill up. This morning, the league announced
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: that the Washington Commanders will be involved in one of
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: the London games. The Seahawks have the Commanders on the schedule.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: The Dallas Cowboys are reportedly going to be in the
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: real game. Reo Nation are in Brazil, unknown whether they're
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: going to be The Cowboys will be the home team
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: of the busity team. The Seahawks have a home game
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: against the Cowboys scheduled for next season, so if the
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Seahawks were doesn't have the home team for real, that
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: could just keep seeably play there. But it looks like
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Madrid or Mexico City might be the games as of
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: yet unannounced that the Seahawks could slot into. So far
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: in this international series, the Seahawks have avoided giving up
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: a home game, and they really have tried to do that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: They want to maximize the chances for the Twelves to
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: sell out Bloomenfield and be on the waiting list of
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: season because and all that. But this year they have
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: nine coming up. This next season, I'll have nine home
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: game one extra. The normal in the league likes to
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: give the unbalanced seventeen game regular season. The years that
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: the teams have nine home games, they'd like to give
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: those guys the international home game. Give up one of
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: those games so you have the usual eight anyway back
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: at home. So just reading the tea leaves and what
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I'm talking to people around the league, there's if they
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: do play an international game, perhaps Madrid, perhaps Mexico City
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: against San Francisco which already is a.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: Home game for the Niners.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Last thing for you. I mean, we've talked about possible
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: early extensions for JSN and Spoon, So I won't bring
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: that up here today, but I will ask you about
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, I mean, a Super Bowl champion quarterback. Yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: he's under contract, but you know, is there any thought
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to like rewarding him giving him an extension himself for
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a higher salary next year? Is that even a part
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: of the equation this offseason.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: I'm chuckling as.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: You're asking, because I asked Snider that yesterday off the podium,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: and he looked at me, like, great, can't you do mas.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: We gave him a three year contract. He's only played
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: one of those three. Yeah, he has two years left.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: That's exactly what he said to me. And I laughed
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: and said, Okay, I just testing the waters to see
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: if might eat. Now he's not gonna tell me in
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: February twenty fifth, yeah, we're gonna go give a new
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: princeload truckload of money to him.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: No.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: No, but the point to him, he made it clear
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: to me. The point is we got to get these
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: decisions on Walker and she heat and Woolan and Bryan
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: and Massey. Then we they are going to give Jackson
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Smith a jig with a new deal this summer. It's
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: probably gonna be close to two hundred million dollars. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: then when they give the NFL Offensive Player of the
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Year and the money they're going to give Devin Witherspoon
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: the three time cornerbacktive money and those have been the
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: priority for the summer. Usually that's done right around the starter.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Others certainly after they started turning him, which is all
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: that long way to say, Sam Donald can wait his turn,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: and then this time next year they'll be talking about
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: that and he has already outplayed the contract that they get.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Well, technically you do have two years right on Spoon
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and on JSN, so you could wait until next year
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: by his math, because you just put the fifth year
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: option on them, so you do have two years before
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: you have to go.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: We asked him now yesterday and he said, we don't
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: see it that way. We don't consider their fifty year
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: option possibility as that precedent of let's not do it
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: all two years. He because we've talked about this. They
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: don't use the options very much. Franchise tags and options
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Snyder doesn't use very much, so he doesn't consider the
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: fifty year option a extra year to consider. Well, we
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: still got two years of those guys. He's considering JSN
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: and Witherspoon be entering the final year of their deals
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: in lieu of the fifty year option that he rarely
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: uses anyway, But good, good point bringing that up, because
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: we asked him the same question and he said, that's
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: what he said.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Got it?
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: Got it? All right?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna do anything fun in Indianapolis tonight. You're
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: gonna just cut it loose on the town. I think
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: you need to wear those glasses and get yourself a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: tweet jacket and find some you know, snooty upscale bar
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: and then just see where the night takes you. And Wendy.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Well, when he's back on working, you get to play.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: So part of the part of the reason that I
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: drove to Ohio was that was Cleveland was one of
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: the few airports I could get her home last night.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: So that's why we drive.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: I dropped her up at Cleveland with her parent mom,
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: and her mom drove to the airport.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Well I drove on to Yeah, she has the real
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: world of work to do with children's hospitals, so she
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: can't she can't play. I'm just looking for six consecutive
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: hours asleep, to be honest, with not much ripping here.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, uh, nice work, nice adventure. Can't wait
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: to hear the article about how you got to Indianapolis.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I figured John Schneider was going to say what he said.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: What I want to find out is about the event
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: that took place between Boston and Indie.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fun, man, that was one of the
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: that was that was one of the highlights of our marriages.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: We had a really good don't and you don't have
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: to read into our marriage.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: It was really that good of a time.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Well, God, very good. All right, Well, we'll check in
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: with you tomorrow. I'm sure.
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: All right. Happy Wednesday.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: There's our Seahawks inside of Greg Bell joining us from
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Indianapolis side of the NFL combine again the pajama Party,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: or as he calls at the Underwear Olympics. We'll get
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: started tomorrow. One more day to uh, you know, chop
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: it up if you're John Schneider with agents and executives,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and certainly I think the NFL network coverage starts today,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: which I always find a must watch at least some
• 25:56
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• 26:26
  Speaker 2: point three KJRFL. I'm allowing myself to get a little
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: reckless every.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Show, getting reckless with the Reckless.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: And normally this is when we do reckless at breakfast.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: So this is the least reckless of the breakfast. Feels
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: came if this is normal? This is normal. See, people
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: are used to be being reckless at least once a week,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: and so we designate this time to get a little
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: reckless at breakfast. This is where I get at get
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: to be a little loose hot takye. If you will
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: look out and I'd like to say without judgment, but
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: we all know that Bucky judges me, Ashley judges me
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: and all of you listening judgment consistently.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you've ever looked at the text line, I.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Mean a judgment, you, all of us.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: So today I'm gonna talk baseball. I've talked about the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: tanking issue in the NBA each of the last two days,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So let's talk baseball today. And one of the things
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: that pops up a lot is, you know, how will
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: the Mariners approach their four young starting pitchers that have
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: been the rotation now for multiple years and at some
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: point are going to have to be paid. They're gonna
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: hit free agency or bump up against free agency. They
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: are early candidates for extension.
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: And then how is that complicated? I wouldn't say complicated,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: but affected is probably the better way. By the fact
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: that Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan seem to be on
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the come and quicker and very quickly. At this point,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the objects in the rearview mirror are closer than they appear.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: And so how will that affect the futures of the
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: four horsemen if you will, that have been eighty percent
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: of the starting rotation for the last you know, year
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and a half two years here in Seattle. Well, I
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: think I've got good and bad news, and this is
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: just my interpretation of things. I know that they haven't
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: really started the conversation with Logan Gilbert, but my guess
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: is that what's going to happen because all of them
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: have multiple years remaining on their deal, and Gilbert's gonna
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: have two years this year and next year before he
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: is a free agent. And so there, you know, they
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: obviously have shown a willingness, maybe even a penchant those
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: that they have identified as core foundation members. Let's lock
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: them up. See if we can get a little bit
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: of a deal, which they clearly got with cal and
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: we get that's one thing that we can trust, that
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: we can rely on. I think Gilbert's the candidate for that,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and I think that that's will get done before next season.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: And I think there are a lot of reasons for it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Number One, he's very good. Number two, he's very grounded.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Number three, he's very loyal and very committed, not that
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the rest of them aren't. And then the col Raleigh relationship,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's a better one in the organization
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: than those two guys. And I think he really wants
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to be here. I think he wants to see this
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: thing through. So they're going to tap into all of that,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: and maybe Logan is the candidate that gives you a
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: hometown discount, since everybody looks for that. Because he does
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: not want to leave Seattle, he does not want to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: leave Cow, he does not want to know the leave
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the organization that he's ever had. I'm not saying that
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: George Kirby wants to do any of that, but I
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: do believe that the organization will make a choice between
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: the two of them. They can't resign all of these guys.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: They can't have They're not going to have two years
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: from now, four guys in the rotation making twenty five
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to thirty million dollars forty million. Who knows how high
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: it gets if George Kirby goes out and have a
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: cy young season this year, for goodness sake, all of
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: a sudden, we're looking at a market value of forty
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: forty five. I mean, if Trek scuble ends upsetting this
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: smart Kyle Tucker made sixty million dollars this season, what's
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Trek Scubale gonna make when he hits free agency? Sixty
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: five seventy million A year, and then that obviously affects
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: the pitching market as well. It's gonna drive up all
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: of those prices. George Kirby has that breakthrough season that
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: everybody expects him to have at some point, I mean,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: his value skyrockets, and so this organization, in my opinion,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I've been saying this for years, they're gonna make a
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: decision between the two of them and the other one.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: They will move while his trade value is high, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: that could be his earliest next year. So follow with me,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Walk along with me. Logan gets the extension because he's
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: a little more willing to play right now about the
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: hometown discount. And then you get that great year out
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: of George potentially, and even if you just get a
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: good year out of him, and then you move him
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: with two years left on the deal, and you activate
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Kate Anderson to replace him in the starting rotation, and
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: do you realize the treasure trove you get and a
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: George Kirby trade with two years left on his deal,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: with the need for pitching that is out there. I mean,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Jim Palmer salivates over George Kirby every time we face
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the Baltimore Orioles he's like, give him anything they want.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: And there's an element of that that the Mariners might
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: take advantage of this offseason. So you lock up one
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: of them because that feels good. We know what we
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: have in Logan Gilbert. The other one gets moved with
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: multiple years on his contract, you get a boat load
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: in return, so you're always restocking that farm system to
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: keep you a contender for years to come. And you
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: could also not just get prospects, you get a really
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: good player and prospects when you dangle at George Kirby
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: at his age, his level of accomplishment and with two
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: years left at a really cheap rate on his contract
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: before he makes big money. And then I think after
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: that you live with that rotation for a year. You've
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: got Ryan Sloan coming, and you'll eventually Ryan Sloan replaces
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Luis Castillo who's got two years left or is a
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: one year left. Should have known that, should have looked
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: that up as quickly. When Castillo is now expired, now
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Sloan replaces him, and then you will eventually have I
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: think the same choice a couple of years down the
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: road between Miller and Wu and injuries could take care
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: of that knock on wood. But let's just for the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: sake of reckless at breakfast, say that both are continuing
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to pitch well, growing, developing, and then then you'll make
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: the same decision between those two. And in the meantime,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: maybe it's that pitching prospect you got for George Kirby
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: that is ready to step into the rotation. And obviously
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: they do a really good job in the draft of
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: finding pitching talent. It probably is the strength of the
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: organization quite frankly, so, I think that's what it is.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's good news for people
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I look at it. I mean, it is a business,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: after all, we talked about it with Emerson Hancock last week.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: You're not they're not all going to stay together. They're
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: best of friends. They are so fun to be here.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: That's so cool to see the way that they interact.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: But they understand it's a business and this organism and
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: this rotation is not going to be able to stay
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: together forever. These four. He just can't afford it. It's
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: just not financially feasible. And that's the pain of developing
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: great talent.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's the good and the bad.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so my guess is that Gilbert stays, Kirby gets
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: moved in the off season while his trade value is
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: its absolute highest. Uh. And then in a couple of years,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: they'll think the same decision between Miller or Wu and
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: then they will trade the other one. And then that
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: next all season, Anderson replaces Kirby, next year, Sloan replaces
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Castillo full time two years from now. Uh, And that's that.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: And so they just keep the ball rolling, And there
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: is no reason to lessen your expectations based upon that
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: evaluation for how great this pitching rotation can continue to
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: be for years to come. They have got it smoking
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: right now. They have really got it clicking in this organization,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: and I expect it to be in the conversation for
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: best starting rotations in baseball for the next ten years consecutively.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: I really do.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: They sure seem to have it set up to go
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: that way. Yeah yeah, but you got.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: To make some Yeah, you got to make some difficult decisions,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: and finances play a part of that. And so that's
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: my expectation at this stage. And it'll be tough to
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: say goodbye to a couple of those guys, but that's
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: just that's the that's the price of business.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I just don't want to see any of them in
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a Yankee uniform.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Well that's another ways you trade them, so you don't
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: let them hit free agency. Yeah, and then you can
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: control that's what I Yeah, if you don't want to
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: see him in a Dodger or a Yankee uniform, you
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: can control where they go. Yeah, all right, coming up next,
• 35:07
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• 35:46
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• 35:50
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• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Be burnt to a crisp toasty. Uh.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I've watched individual freckles on that guy just burst into flames.
• 36:10
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  Speaker 2: the risk every time he goes out.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the risk is worth the punishment.
• 36:19
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• 36:23
  Speaker 2: from pajama party. The NFL Combine week is here. We've
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: got agents meeting with executives and representing players and trade
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: talk going on here over the course of the next
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: couple of days. In John Schneider's very own words, this
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: NFL Combine really is not about the draft process as
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: much anymore as it is getting in the same room
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: with agents and executives and kind of getting your off
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: season plan together and a little smooth yeah, just kind
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: of getting the lay of the land, really, and so
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: he's he's there to meet with the agents of I'm
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: sure his six top free agents, or at least get
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: him on the horn and see where they stand with
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Ken Walker and Kobe Bryant and Rashid shah Heed and
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Josh Job and Rique Woolan and boy A Mafey not
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: just a good group of free agents, but also ones
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: whose values have skyrocketed because they're Super Bowl champions.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and when you say that list that long, I'm like,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be when he's like, oh, we want to
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: bring them all back, I'm like.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be real hard.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to bring them all back. And
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: so but we do need to figure out which ones
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: we do think that they'll bring back. And so that's
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: what we'll do in today's Pajama Party preview, part two
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: right here on Chuck and Buck in the Mornings. And
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: so Greg Bell was on with us a little bit
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: earlier in the show, and we've kind of talked about
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: all of those guys that I just listed, with the
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: exception of really one and that was boy A mafe
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: we haven't discussed a lot. So I asked Greg specifically
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: about him free agency this year, and how eager the
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Seahawks may or may not be to bring him back.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Not very high. I don't think he's the every down
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: run stopping edge guy that Mike McDonald really wants. Yeah,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: he can rush the passer occasionally, but even his production.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: There wasn't very high last year or so.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: But he's from drafted from a different regime.
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: Obviously, it's anyone beyond two years here was.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: But my seeing how McDonald plays defense and how multiple
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: he wants to be, especially with linebackers, Mike McDonald would
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: not have drafted Bye in my opinion, and so I
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: don't think they're going to invest a big, big effort
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: and try to get him back now. Having said that,
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Mafey's low production means he may not get too many
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: suitors in the open market anyway, and perhaps the seas
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: could bring him back on a team friendly deal.
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: Minimum, so maybe a year or so at most.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: Having said that, he's an edgeresher, still young those guys
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: coming to premium, but he just doesn't seem production wise
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: and style wise, he's just.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: Not multiple enough. In my mind. It's how McDonald likes
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: to play defense.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels to me and you can hear the
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: entire Greg Bell conversation at ninety three three KJR dot com,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: our podcast, which is up every single day if you
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: want to all the intel that he gave us today
• 39:21
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• 39:23
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• 39:25
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• 39:27
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• 39:28
  Speaker 1: It seems like the smart move to me.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Of those six guys, this seems like the smart statement
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: to make. I'll see if you agree or disagree, Ashley.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Of those six guys I mentioned, Ken Walker, Rashich, Kobe Bryant,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Josh Joe, Riek, Wollen, boy A Mafe I didn't even
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: need to hear Greg kind of black and white for
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: us right there. He seems like the least lightly to
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: return next year, boy Mafy.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I would agree with you.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, he was a contributor for sure this year
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: on defense, but he was the standout that he had
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: been a couple and was it a couple of years ago?
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Really well, he flashes. I don't know if he's ever
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: been a standout. He does flash.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: He had some standout moments sure, for sure.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, but I didn't really see that this year,
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: and I don't know.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, it makes me sad because I loved him,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: especially two years ago. I thought he was awesome.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I think uh, I think he's probably
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's gone. I'll just I'll just
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: make it the statement that way. And again, you're not
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: going to be able to bring all these guys back.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to run it back.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: And as I said before, their market value all has
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: increased beyond what they probably should be getting paid because
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: they were part of a super Bowl championship. Somebody's out there, though,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: is going to see that size, that strength, that explosiveness
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and think to themselves, we can turn that guy into
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: a top pass rusher. And I don't think it's out
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: of the question. I mean, that's the that's kind of
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the scary part of losing a boy a MAFE is
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes players just need more of an opportunity
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: or a different scheme or a different whisperer in their ear,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you're like, oh man, that
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: guy's a twelve second per season guy. Where was that
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: in a Seattle uniform? He does have I think that
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: potential that tears down the road. He might be amongst
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the NFL sack leaders, and we here in Seattle will
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: be like, oh man, how do we ever let that
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: guy go? But I think it's more likely that he's
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: just a talented player that is part of a group
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: pass rush and yes he can get to the quarterback,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: but not consistently enough to miss him. So I love
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the what Greg said about Mike McDonald. Was not here
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: when they drafted him, and maybe he's not the complete
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: edge that he seeks. And so I think of the
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: six guys, he's the least likely that will return. And
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: yet I think we'll be surprised at how much money
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: somebody is willing to pay him because there are a
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: lot of executives, a lot of head coaches, and a
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: lot of defensive coordinators in this league who got hegoes
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: and they will see the talent that boy Mafe has
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and says that guy, I can do something good for him.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if he can make boatloads of money and not
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: demand boatloads of money from the Seahawks, than good.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well way to go.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I think that that's one of those decisions that's going
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: to be one of the easier ones. I don't think
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: that he will. He will be back next year. Now
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: on the other end of it, I would argue that
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I think the guy that with the best chance of
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: coming back on that list is Kobe Bryant, because I
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: think that his salary will be measured. I don't think
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: anybody looks at Kobe Bryant and says there's a giant
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: ceiling still yet to reach. I think everybody recognizes him
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: as what an excellent floor that he has, And so
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's going to be a bidding
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: war on the open market for a floor guy like'll
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: be Bryant, and so to me, the value is with
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: the person he's performed for. I think the value is
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: with Seattle. I think Mike McDonald loves this guy, and
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I think Mike McDonald will pay more than anybody else
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: in the National Football League for Kobe Bryant. So I
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: think Kobe Bryant has the best chance of those six
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: of returning next season, and.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I would love to see him back.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: And honestly, yeah, if if there's no bidding war happening
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: for him out there, you know, that's sad for him,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: But that's Seattle's gain right there, and I'll take it.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: They'll be interest, that'll be a huge interest in him.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I just don't think that it's gonna be one of
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: those situations where, oh man, I can wait, do you
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: see what? Well, you see what I can do with
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: this guy. I think there will be a well he's
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: really good, Well we could use him, and I don't
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: know if we can do anything better than what Mike McDonald.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to be at his best with
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald. Uh And and I think Mike McDonald doesn't
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: want him to go, So I think he's going to
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: be back. I think of all those six, he's the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: one I'm most confident is going to be back. But
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: who do you put second on your list?
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Walker, Shaheed job Woolen. What's your gut feel on
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: who the Seahawks will definitely try to get back into
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: the fold. I would.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: That is a tough one.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: I I I definitely understand what you're saying with Bryant,
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: just because of the cost and the fact that it
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: really does seem like Mike McDonald loves him, so it's
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: almost like a safe bet to go try to get him,
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: lock him up first and then try to go after
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: the bigger fish.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Well, not as I they'll do it first. I just
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: think he's the most likely.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: The most likely.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Oh got it, Sorry, I thought you were asking me, Okay,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: so most likely to say, yeah, I would, i'd I'd
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: say next, most likely to stay. I'm gonna go with
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: ken Walker. I think that they're gonna find a way
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: to bring him back.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling more that way with every day that passes,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: and I still am going to side on ken Walker
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: leaving because I think he's going to have such a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: vibrant market, and as I mentioned before in the show,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the agent is certainly going to play a role here. Yeah,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: and the agent is going to say, we're not signing,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: We're going to hit the free agent market. My client
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: is red hot right now. Everybody in the world saw
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: what he could do when you unleash him, like we
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: were waiting for you to do.
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: I mean.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Walker even made statements earlier this year about Sharbonnay, and
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: he was saying it tongue in cheek. I know their boys,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I know their buddies, but it was like he always
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: snipers my touchdowns. He made a statement about that earlier
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: in the year well, you know that the agent feels
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: that way too, and so he's gonna want his client
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: hit the open market and let's see what we can
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: do out there. And so from that standpoint, I do
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: believe I'm siding on someone out there who's more desperate
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: with cap space is going to make him an offer
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: that John Schneider is just not going to match. But
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I'm more about fifty five percent feeling that way, where
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I think even two weeks ago it might have been
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: like seventy five even eighty five percent feeling that way.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: But now that I'm sort of seeing the landscape and
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: being disenchanted with the free agents that would be a
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: replacement for him. And I know that they're going to
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: get a running back in the draft, but can you
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: count on that running back in the draft in the
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: second or third round that's going to be a replacement
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: for both Walker and Charbonnet, who's not going to be there. Yes,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: he'll add to the mix, but do you rely on that.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I really think they're going to make themselves uncomfortable financially
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: to keep him, which I don't know if I would
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: have said even two weeks ago, much less a month ago.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: But I still am going to side slightly with he's
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: leaving more than.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: He's staying, and that's fair.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: I just think with the Charbonney situation is the reason
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: why you can't go into this offseason not knowing what
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: Charboney's health is going to be coming back next year
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: and having nobody.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you've got Macintosh and.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Veilas Jones and people like that, but you don't have
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: those that starting running back, that person that you know
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: that can take the ball twenty five thirty times a
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: game and do something with it. And I think if
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: you get rid of Walker, you're putting yourself in a very,
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: very scary situation.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: And as I said yesterday with Ken Walker, and now
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I forgot what I was going to say, Oh crap,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Let's move on. Let's talk about Rashid Shahid, the wide
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: receiver kick returner, And this is another one. This might
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: be the guy that gives you the hometown discount. I
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: think when you've been in the league for a little
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: while and you've played with a perennial loser like he
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: has in New Orleans, when you get to an organization
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: where you feel, man, they do everything the right way.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: We want a super Bowl. Yeah, I was a big
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: part of that. This might be your best candidate for
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: he could give you the Super Bowl discount, the hometown discount.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: I don't want to rock this boat. Yeah, you're gonna
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: give me a pay raise, But they are. They're putting
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: projections out there like a fourteen million dollar player. I
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: don't think that with Tory Horton here in the organization
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: that John Schneider is going to spend fourteen million dollars
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: on Rashid Shahed, who was mostly impactful as a kick
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: returner this past season. But I mean, Hugh pointed it
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: out a lot, not really even being incorporated much into
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: the passing attack. He was most effective as a kick returner,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: then probably a running back, getting jet sweeps running backs,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: and then probably as a receiver. Tory Horton was more
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: effective in the passing game than what Rashid Shahed was,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: and Horton can return kicks. I do think they want
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: him back. I don't know if I go as far
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: as Greg Bell where he thought it was sort of
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a foregone conclusion it was going to be the first
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: thing they got done this offseason. But I just get
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: the impression that if that's the market value for him.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: There's no way John Schneider's going fourteen million dollars a
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: year when he's got a Tory Horton in the stable.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: So I'm about fifty to fifty on Shiheed right now.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: And whether or not.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: He returns, Yeah, and I would lean probably fifty five
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: percent that I think he'd come back, just because he
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: was such a difference maker so in especially in the playoffs,
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: and you think about those or was it the final
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: game of the which one did he run the ope? Oh,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: that was the first game of the playoffs against the
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: forty nine ers, right where he ran the opening kickoff back.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Just think you look at the explosiveness that he has,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: and I know that Tory Horton has those things too,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: but Tory Horton obviously didn't stay healthy this year, so
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: you don't really know with how young he is, how
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: durable he will be. And Rashid siheat is proven that
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: he can stay in this league for a long time.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: So I would love to see him back.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I'd love to see him back. It's just you got
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: to make the decision on what the price point is,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: and I don't think it's going to be what the
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: market is suggesting, or at least the websites that are
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: trying to represent the market are suggesting. If it's that
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling he's in another uniform. I do
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: think Riek Wolan will be gone. I think he falls
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: into the Mafey category. I think somebody's going to look
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: at that athleticism, that length, that explosiveness, and they're going
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: to think, to themselves, give me that guy, let me
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: coach him up. And so I think he's going to
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: end up going for more. I would put him right
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: next to mafe on the group in terms of the
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: most likely to leave. And then that leaves Josh Job,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: who you hate to lose two corners in the same offseason,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: and so if you lost Woolan, does that incentivize you
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: to pay a little bit more to keep Job. I
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: think Job falls in the Bryant category. I think that
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: executives are going to look at him and say, I
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: don't know if he's going to be any better than
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: what he is with Mike McDonald. And I think in
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Seattle's case, I think they value They're gonna end up
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: valuing him more than anybody else. But we've seen plenty
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: of cornerbacks that were part of the legion to boom
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: that when they maxwell comes to mind when they hit
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: free agency or like oh sticker shot what?
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how did that happen?
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: You're paying that much for that guy, He's like the
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: third best corner on the team. Yeah, And so maybe
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Joe ends up falling into that category. We shall see.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you recap those six names, and
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: the only one I feel great about is Kobe Bryant
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: being back next soon.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I think that's a fair assessment.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: And the only one that I feel like for sure
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: is gone is Boye Mafe. And I'm sliding a little
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: bit more toward Walker staying, and I'm sliding a little
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: bit more toward Shaheed leaving h And I think Woolan's gone,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: and I think that because Woollan's gone, will end up
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: being back. I think the Seahawks might make the best
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: offer there, But we shall see. I mean, they've got
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: cap space, they obviously have relationships. They want to run
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: it back with as many of them as possible. But
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: if they get half of those guys back, I'd be
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I'd be I wouldn't say surprised, but I wouldn't expect
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: any more than three of those six guys to be
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: back in Seahawk uniforms.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they'd bring them all back any
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: by any means. I don't think they have really the
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: opportunity to do that. I think they will get out
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: bid on a couple of them. But it is interesting
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: because the Reek wooland thing. I was one hundred percent
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: convinced he would be gone after this year a month
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: and a half ago. Now I'm leaning more towards I
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: could see him staying because of after his big screw
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: up against the Rams, it seems like maybe he figured
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: it out. I mean, his teammates stepped up and got
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: mad at him, and maybe I don't know. I just
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: I would be I would love to be a fly
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: on the wall in the conversation between him and McDonald
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: and see really how that's going, because I also don't
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: know that McDonald. Well, I know McDonald's not going to
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: put up with any of the attitude, but I wonder
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: if he actually got the message.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I doubt it, Especially when you make more money, I'm
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: going to let him be somebody else's concern and if
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: he unleashes all of that ability with another so be it, Yeah,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to let somebody else roll the dice
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: on that. If I am the Seahawks, I mean I
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: take him back for a song, but I have a
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: feeling his salary, he and MafA were both going to
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: come March tenth, eleventh, twelfth, We're going to be surprised
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: at how willing, how much money a team is willing
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: to pay for those two guys to try to tap
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: into that high ceiling potential that they have. And so
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: with three defensive backs out of the six, I mean
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: obviously another position as we get ready for the pajama
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: party that John Schneider might be paying attention to is
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: going to be that cornerback position. And right now the
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Seahawks have the last pick in the first round. I
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: don't suspect that they'll end up with the last pick
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: in the first round. I think they'll move out of
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: that spot and try to pick up another Day two
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: pick and so second rounders. I mean, it's pretty clear cut.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Not to get too far ahead of the draft miss
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: schedule here, but it's pretty clear cut. I mean I
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: looked at like twelve different draft websites, and almost all
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: of them have the three top guys as Delaney from LSU,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: who's been described as very instinctive, which you love in
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: a corner. Jermad McCoy out of Tennessee the main word
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: and his word cloud is versatile, and then Avian Terrell
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: from Clemson and skilled, slash fluid are the attributes that
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: are usually given to him. Those guys are all expected
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: to go in the first round and might be off
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: the board. So the two guys that you I might
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: want to check out if I were to circle, if
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: you really are looking for a couple of guys like
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I gave you running backs yesterday, that you might want
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: to check out that maybe the Seahawks entertain early in
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: the second round or even with that thirty second pick
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: if they have a cornerback hole. Colton Hood out of
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Tennessee known for strength at the position, and then Brandon
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Cease out of South Carolina spelled Cisse and he is
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: the fastest of the six or the five that I've mentioned,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: known for his speed. But I have seen a lot
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: of mocks putting Cease on the Seahawks on the Seashawks
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: on seas Yeah, for their mock draft. So I'm already
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: seeing a little bit of a trend in that direction.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: But I'm just trying to play the what guys right
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: now are kind of falling in that late first, early
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: second category. And I've never seen such consistent ratings at
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: a position that I'm seeing right now at these cornerbacks.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Those three seem to be a cut above. They're on
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: the top shelf. And then Hood and Cease seems to
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: be the only two guys that are getting mentioned in
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: that thirty to forty five range that you might be
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: interested in if you're wanting to take a cornerback with
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: your first pick. So a couple guys maybe to circle
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: think about if you, in fact do watch the Pajama
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Party this weekend. All right, coming up next on our
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: program in case you missed it. Last week we were
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: at spring training. We had all sorts of great interviews.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I'm replaying one per day this week, or at least
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: a chunk of one of our interviews from last week
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: per day and just picking the very best ones. And
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: so we're gonna hear from Brian Wu next Sports Radio
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM. We are going to chat
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: with Al Konski nine thirty today. But I want to
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: talk about uniforms. Because there are two things that are
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: abundantly clear, Okay, abundantly clear about our uniform situation here
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: in Seattle. Number one, both fan bases, Seahawks and Mariners
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: have made their affinity for a certain uniform universally, if
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: not maybe not universally, it's like an eighty five percent
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: rate what the fan base wants. Sea Hawk fans want
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: the throwback blues now modernized, so they don't it doesn't
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: look like they're just loose on a hangar like they
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: were on Steve Largent and Jim Zorn. Now we've modernized them,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: we've tailored them, and they just look so sharp. I
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: mean even the national broadcast suggests that it's the best
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: uniform out there and they can't get enough of it.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: And so here for helmet too, Yeah, yeah, and.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I even want to see the old home white one
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: as well, to bring that back too.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: With the silver pants.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Let's go, I mean like seventy five I'll bet you
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: seventy five eighty percent of Seahork fans want that uniform combination.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: So we have decided as a community, as a fan base,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: that's the uniform that we want, and yet we don't
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: have it right. The other thing that we have decided,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: and this isn't quite as clear cut, but I can
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: just tell you by the time we got to the
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: postseason last year with the Mariners, the number of the
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Trident looking uniforms and jackets and that old merchandise line
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: was dominating in the stands and it hadn't even been
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: brought back all that long ago. Whoever was buying anything
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: new of the Mariners was buying the blue and yellow,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: classic blue, classic yellow with the Trident insignia. That's what
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: the jackets that are being bought and right now at
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: the stores, and when I was down in spring training,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: everybody that was in attendance, they're wearing that sort of
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: color combination. We got to go back to that. It
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: looks outstanding, the old Seattle Mariner Trident blue and yellow
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: uniforms modernized.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, the city connects kind of you could.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Go off that play with that, Yeah, but BA black Pants,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: without question, that's with the fan base is gravitating towards.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: So that's the first thing that I know. Both fan
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: bases have figured out the uniforms that they want on
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: a regular basis and still have your city connect and
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: your other alternate uniforms and stuff like that, but the
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: primary uniforms need to be the modernized throwbacks, the Trident
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: blue and yellow for the Mariners and the Seahawks blue
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: and silver of the gem Zorn days.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually completely agree.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: And it's interesting too because the Mariners are due for
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: a new City Connect uniform, right, Yes, So you could
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: get rid of the one that's more of the classic colors,
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: move that towards your full uniform. You could have that
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: cream and yellow and blue that you had on Sundays.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: There's your kind of basis to start your new uniforms,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: and then you could actually make your City Connect more
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: of the Navy blue, teal, silver kind of that. So
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: that would be like the different one from going back
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: to the classic colors.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: The other thing that I know and that I've learned
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: and having these conversations with various people, is how difficult
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: the leagues make it to change your uniforms, like the long,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: tedious process. It's like a year's yeah, and I don't
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: understand why that. I get why they don't. They have
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: to set like you have to have these for a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: certain amount of time, but the moment that you ellipse
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: that amount of time. You should be able to say,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: we want to change them this offseason, and you should
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: be able to do that.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: And here's our design.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know why there would be so much red
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: tape to get to a uniform that your fan base
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: is yearning for, Right, It's just more money.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: They're all going to go out and buy more stuff.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: So apparently they're not even close the Mariners to the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: stage of overhauling the entire uniform concept. I had a
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: friend of mine in Kansas City five years ago that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: told me he was sick of the Mariners uniforms.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Really all in the Navy blue yeah, yeahah, the basic one.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not the Sunday one, not the City connect, but
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: the basic one. He was sick of the And and
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: here we are five years ago and we not only
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: still have them, apparently there's no end in sight to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: when we can get rid of them, because the process
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: hasn't even been started to try to overhaul the uniforms.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: But man, it just seems to me like we we
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: have spoken. The fan base is spoken. These are this
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: is what we want. The large majority of us four
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: out of five people want the throwback Sea York uniforms
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: and the Trident blue and yellow baseball uniforms as our
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: base combination, and yet we can't get there organizationally because
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: of all the red tape that has been laid out
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: in front of both teams.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's annoying. I wouldn't.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't anticipate that it would have taken that long.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: I would have thought it would have. It could just be, hey,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: we'd like to change our uniforms, here's our ideas, and
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: then who's gonna say no? Because again, you're just selling
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: more merchandise exactly. So it makes no sense why anyone
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: will shut it down. If a team wanted to change
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: the uniform every I mean not every year, that would
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: be a ridiculous.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I don't want them to change it every year every
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: five years.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: I think, okay, you should. If you want to do
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: an update or change something, go for it.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: I get why they have to put a time amount
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, but I'm sure we've ellipsed whatever time
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: amount that is, because we've had these uniforms since I
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: got here. Yeah, and this is my eleventh year. Yeah,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: I mean it can't be more than five or ten years.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: The Tigers are getting new uniforms this year. So, I mean,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: so I would think that we've that time has been
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: wiped away. Yeah, and we should at least be starting
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: the process toward getting the uniforms we actually won our
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: baseball team and the players want to wear them too.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like them.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: It's just such a sharper.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, let's get on that all right, coming
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: up next on the radio program. That's one situation. And
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: there are situations that we face in life, and then
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: there are situations that we face in life. And the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: NFL it's got a lot of situations going on right now.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ Rfmin'.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 9: Onna paddle it, don't kick it real hard. No, I
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: believe he's gonna paddle it. I don't believe that's a
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: proper description.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Well, that's how i'd characterize it.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 9: I believe it's more of a kicking situation.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, nine o'clock hour, Chuck and Ashley with you.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: And yes, there are situations in the world, and then
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: there are situations. And in the National Football League there
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: are a few teams out there with situation. I think
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks have plenty of situations that they're going to
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: be dealing with I mean, JSN, that's a situation we
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: got to figure out. Are we going to pay him
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: now or are we going to stretch it out and
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: maybe give him in his extension and wait until next year. Well,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: I can tell you this right now. Greg bell I
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: asked him of that about two hours ago, and he
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: said that the way John Schneider views the JSN contract
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: is that he's really a guy with one year left
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: on his deal. Sam Donald's got two years left on
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: his deal. So he made Greg do the math. Okay,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald's got two years left. Next year, when he
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: has one year left, we'll start working on his extension.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: JSN theoretically has two years left in a Seahawk uniform
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: because you could pick up his fifth year because he
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: was a first round draft pick option pay him like
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: twenty eight million dollars for that fifth year, so you
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: could save yourself time. But Greg informed us at seven
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: oh five that's not the way that John views the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: JSN fifth year player option situation. He views it as
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: that we've got one year left to work out a
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: long term deal, and so now's the time to negotiate it.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: And the expectation is the JSN is going to become
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: the highest paid wide receiver in the National Football League,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: and by a little bit of a margin, and I
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: think deservedly so, and please just get it done. Why
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: risk any ill feelings. Let's just solve this situation before
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: it becomes a situation.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if he's already out there saying, yeah,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: I would like to be the highest paid wide receiver,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: I think I've earned it. I think the play on
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: the field and in the community has shown that I
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: deserve it. So as you joined the man, as he
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: pointed out earlier, that price only going to get higher
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: next year with real wide receivers become the next highest
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: paid wide receiver.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: So it's his turn, So do it. It's his turn,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: make him the highest paid. Keep the great relationship. Even
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: the clubhouse will love you for rewarding JSN. So I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: think this will be a situation that will be easily
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: handled ken Walker. This could turn into a situation right now.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: The situation is that ken Walker is becoming free agent
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: at a time where he really did create some momentum
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: for his free agency, and so he's going to make
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: things a little uncomfortable financially for the Seahawks to try
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: to keep him, and if he ends up declining all
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: offers because his agent wants him to test the market,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna lose him. I think that's what's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: going to happen. So if we have a situation, it
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: is ken Walker and whether or not at this stage
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: in the process, John Schneider Mike McDonald can convince him
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: to stay for less than what he would make on
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: the open market, because I'm sure that once he hits
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: the open market, some crazy bastards in the National Football
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: League who are bad at what they do will overpay
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: him to try to fix their organization like overnight, and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: that's usually not the way to go, is to overpay players.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: John doesn't do that. That's why he's had a lot
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: of success, and so he doesn't want to even be
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: faced with that. So this could turn into a situation
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: before it's all said.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: I really hope it doesn't.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see see it make the transition
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: from situation to situation.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: I don't either, because.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: At that point there's a lot more out of your
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: control exactly.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: And so that's that's pretty much we're facing okay here
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: this offseason, But there are a lot of NFL teams
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: who suddenly, well they got a situation on their.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Hands, tell me all about it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going to start with the Philadelphia Eagles. And this
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: isn't suddenly. This has been brewing for quite some time,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: but recently at the NFL combine, Nick Sirianni gets quoted
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: and the headlines and everybody's running with the headlines I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: can't guarantee that AJ Brown will be back next year. Now,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: you want to talk about something that makes players, executives,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: coaches angry, it's when we have so many different media
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: sources and sure enough, one to ten of them will
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: end up taking a quote out of context and running
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: with it and splashing it on the headlines. Sports Illustrated
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: did it. A lot of people did it with it. Yes,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: he did say I can't guarantee that AJ Brown will
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: be back next year, but it was in the context
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: of him saying, I agree with Howie Roseman, you just
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: don't run around, run across great talent like this all
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: the time. We want him back, we think he wants
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: to be back, but can I guarantee that he'll be back.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: I can't even guarantee that I will be back next year. Yeah,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: and then then people run with it as Nouk surion.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: He can't guarantee that it well, of course he can't.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you expect if he guaranteed, he'd be
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: back of him and be like, oh, well, clearly the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: Eagles have signed A J.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Brown and nobody has told us.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: That said, it's still a situation. I don't think Nick
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Sirian he should be taking it this week. I don't
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: think he said anything wrong in that press conference, and
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: the media took him out of context and they've created
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: a mountain out of a molehill. But everybody knows they've
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: got a situation there in Philadelphia. What we don't know
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: is who's at the heart of it. Is it AJ
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Brown or is it Jalen Hurts. I mean, we are
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: at a lot of rumblings at the end of the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: year that Jalen Hurts is the problem in the locker room.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: He didn't seem that way on the surface. He seems
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: very you know, buttoned up and great leader, and every
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: time he's in front of a microphone he's soft spoken,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't say nothing. He seems to me like
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: a leader. But sometimes perception is not reality, and it
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: sounds to me like Philadelphia may have a clubhouse issue
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: led by their quarterback for goodness sake, that a lot
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: of more players are siding with AJ Brown's frustration than
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: what we realize. But we see the wide receiver pouting
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: on the sidelines reading a book. Yeah, you uninterested, And
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: it looks obvious to us that AJ Brown is a
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: problem with the Philadelphia Eagles and may have been one
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: of the reasons why they couldn't get the offense clicking
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: this past season and why they failed so miserably and
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: repeating as Super Bowl champions and they made the playoffs.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me wrong, maybe miserably is a
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: strong word, but.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: They was a disappointment for them for sure.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: They didn't get close. Yeah, they didn't get close, and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: they exited in putrid fashion. I will, I'll own that statement.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: But I just don't see how this is remedied. I
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: think he has to go. And I don't know if
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is the issue or not. Kind of sounds
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: like that he might be, But that still doesn't justify
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: reading a book on the sidelines and hosting press conferences
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: at your locker where you're admitting to your frustrations calling
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: out the offensive coordinator, calling out the quarterback. I think
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: he's going to go. I don't think there's any room
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: for this in a championship organization. I'm so glad we
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: didn't have this with the Seahawks this past year. And
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I think you could get good value of him still,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: because there will be a lot of organizations out there
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: that are wide receiver needy that could use an AJ
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Brown at his age, are willing to pay that price,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: and they get a fresh start with him. They don't
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: have any sort of locker room issue because he gets
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: to start fresh with that organization. Cleveland and Buffalo are
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: coming to mind, not just coming to mind, they're being
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: reported a lot of having a keen interest in AJ Brown.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: Well, and I just think too, if you have two
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: players who aren't getting along and one of them is
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: going out and making it a public thing, you just can't.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: You can't keep that person right. You got to get
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: rid of one of them. Then you get rid of
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: AJ Brown. You find out is Jalen Hurts really the problem? Maybe,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: and maybe he's the next to go, but you can't
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: if that once that relationship is fractured and he's taking
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: the private things from the locker room out to the public.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: You can't put that cat bat back in the bag?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Is that right phrase?
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that works.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, cat is out of the bag.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, back in there exactly once you let it out.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cat getting out of the bag is a situation. Yeah,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: trying to get the cat back into the bag.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: That's a situation one.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: And that's what we're talking about here today. It's situations
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: in the National Football League. So if this is the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: forty eight hour window of John Schneider's right, we don't
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: really care about the pajama party anymore. It's about trying
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: to hammer out all of these things to kind of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: set the tone for the entire NFL off season. Then
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: we need to address all the situations that are going
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: on out there.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Somebody's got to do it.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Forty nine ers have themselves a situation, and not with
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk. That's been resolved. Yeah, he's gone, and they're
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: going to try to find a trade partner, which they won't,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: and they're gonna eat a lot of money, there's no
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: getting around that. And he's going to play for another
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: team next year. And it wouldn't it surprise me if
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: he played well, so that was something that was a situation.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: But now they've resolved it. John Lynch has already said
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: he won't be back with us next year and that
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: the AYUK tentacles reach far. When you have a lot
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: of money invested in the guy, you get nothing from.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Guess what happens. It ends up pinching another guy and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: somebody that actually does perform. So I introduced you to
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: thirty seven year old future Hall of Fame left tackle
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Trent Williams, and it sounds to me. According to Mike
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Florio and Pro Football Talk, the nine had themselves a
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: Trent Williams situation. Suddenly it's gone from yeah, he's going
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: to be back next year, don't sweat it, to Trent
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Williams looking like he could be leaving. As a matter
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: of fact, the forty nine ers wow may actually cut
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: him for goodness sake because of cap reasons. So Williams
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: there's a chance that he could be traded. The forty
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: nine ers would owe Williams ten million dollars on April first.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: If they're willing to carry his cap number through March,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: they could attempt to trade him. But the story is
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: because he's driving such a hard bargain and because they
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: don't have cap flexibility because of Brandon aiyuk tight signings
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: in the past that at thirty eight million dollars a year,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: they might just release the thirty seven year old left tackle. Wow.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean wow.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: I mean I give John Lynch all the credit in
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: the world for going for it. I'm not sure there's
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: been a general manager in the NFL on the modern
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: day less needs in the conversation, but I don't think
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: even he has gone as far as John Lynch. John Lynch,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: when he saw an opportunity to win, he's like, you know,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: salary cap be damned, it's not real math. Anyway, we'll
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: figure out a way to just shove everybody in under
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: the cap and be as great as we possibly can
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: in this window. And they didn't win a championship doing
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: it that way, and now they're going to start feeling
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: the ramifications. And now we'll see if he's the type
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: of general manager that can pull a less need and
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: rebuild in record setting time. Because he drafts so well.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: I think I got to give credit to Sneed for
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: doing that. But it's not customary and we have not
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: seen if John Lynch is even capable of that. As
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: a general manager, he's very capable of recognizing other great
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: players on other teams, getting them to his organization to
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: add to his already great team. But he didn't win
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: a championship that way. And now all of that effort,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: now it starts to create the damage. You know, you've
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: got older players that can't stay healthy, making gigantic salaries,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: and at some point, you know, the poop hits the fan,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: and the poop is hitting the fan in San Francisco,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: and this could be just one of the dominoes that
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: could fall. This could be the first of the dominoes
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: that could fall in San Francisco. If they decide we
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: can't keep Trent Williams and we can't trade him at
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: thirty eight million dollars a year, We're going to cut
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: one of the best left tackles in the National Football
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: League just to give us some cap flexibility. That is,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: when you know you're.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Stretched, yeah you are in a situation.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: You are in a situation at that point, yeah you are.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: So that was a little bit of an unknown, but
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: that's the scuttle butt right now that Williams is like
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: in a staredown. He not only is not going to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: sacrifice any of his money now. He wants more money
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: going forward, even at age thirty seven, And the forty
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: nine ers are like, man, we might be an impass
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: here and he's not going to be easy to trade
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: and we would still have cap implications if we did
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: trade him.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: Well, and you think about too, It's not like they
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: can't be like, well, we don't need him, because all
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: we heard about going into the playoffs was that he
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: was going to be back, and what a difference maker
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: it was going to be just to have Trent Williams back. So,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: I mean he is a key person. He was yea,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: he was saying that is a key person. I would
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: not want to be in that situation.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: The Las Vegas Raiders. Then they got situations everywhere. They
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: lead the league in situations. Well Vegas, Yeah, it's the Raiders.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: I think that's more well yeah, yeah. But the news
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: this week is that we got a little bit of
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: breaker progress. We let it be known that we really
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: want Max Crosby back next year, and we also let
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: it be known that we think he'll be back. Has
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: anyone asked Max Crosby because I don't think he's going
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: to be back. I think that is them. Now, hey,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: we'll trade you, but let us act like you want
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: to be here, because your trade value goes down if
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: everybody thinks you're desperate to get out. So well, my
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: guess I think Max Crosby was so dug in and
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: so done with the Raiders organization that my guess is
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: their conversations he made it. I mean, cause that's be
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: a big turnaround with the same people you know, you had, Clint.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak made that big of a difference in Max
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Crosby's life.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, on the other side of the ball. Really kind
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: of He.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Went from showing videos of him being perfectly healthy even
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: though he wasn't activated for that week in the National
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Football League, to announcing to the world that I'm done
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: with an organization that gives up on a season, you know.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: And then Clint Kubiak is that much of a charmer
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: that he comes in and they have one meeting and
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: suddenly he's back on board. No, my guess is they
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: had one meeting. Crosby says, get rid of the get
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: rid of me, and they told him, well, let us
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: at least the best way for us to get rid
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: of you because we got to get some We got
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: to get the maximum for you. Is that least let
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: us tell tell you that there are some pro there's
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: some progress toward keeping him, and that will increase your
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: value versus decrease your trade value this offseason. That's my guess.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: I just can't imagine Clint Kubiak created a one eighty
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: turnaround that quickly after one meeting with Max Crosby this offseason.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: So I do think they still have a situation, even
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: though they're trying to play it off like they just
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: have a situation.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds to me like it's just a game
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: of Yeah, we're gonna make him look bad.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Look how much he loves it here. Oh, we don't
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: want to let him go.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: You're gonna have to pay us a little or you're
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: gonna have to give us a lot in return, because
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: look at how much he wants to be here versus well,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: he doesn't want to be here, So can will you
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: guys take him?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: I mean those are their two options basically.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think he should have trade value out there. Yeah, sure,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: mean there was stuff floating around about the Seahawks like
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: first round two first round picks for Max I don't
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: give up. I don't think he's worth two first rounds
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: well and not.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: His AGA and the Raiders just don't aren't in control
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: of that anymore.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if they can get a little bit of control,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: I think they are going to end up dealing him.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's not going to be the monster Joe Burrow
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: trade that I throw no out a couple of times.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, but I do think that he's going to
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: be moved. Speaking of Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson's situation has been a situation for so long
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: it's now just a situation because there is no way
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: you can do this again to him, to your fan base,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: to your locker room. Look, you've had plenty of time
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: to work out a long term deal or to work
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: out a trade. You can't possibly do again what you
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: did last year, where he doesn't show up at training camp,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: then he plays a few games half assed, and then
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: he gets hurt and you can't play for the rest
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: of the year. You can't do that again. So to me, yeah,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: it didn't turn out to be what you wanted the
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: relationship to be with with Trey Hendrickson, But you got
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: to cut your losses at this point. Let the guy
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: go and spend, because there is a benefit to just
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: letting a guy go. Sure, you didn't get anything f
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: for him in a trade, but you don't have to
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: worry about the headache number one. And then number two,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: you do get to take that money you were going
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: to give to him, and you can spend it elsewhere.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: So why do it again, Why even act like you're
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: doing it again. Let the man go, let him go
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: into free agency, and let another team roll the dice
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: on him and his future. Cincinnati Bengals need to be
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: done with Trey Hendricks.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, and that I think that is a
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: case of where egos kind of get involved. It's like, well, no,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: we we don't want to, you know, do the things
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: you want to do.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: We want you on our team, and blah blah blah blah.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, everybody's egos get involved, and then it turns
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: into the situation that it was versus.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you for using it perfectly in this segment.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: No, I'm happy to do it versus if you you know,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: if they could have just addressed to the situation the
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: first time round, you don't end up in this current situation,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: which is now a situation.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: You had a situation and then you turn it into
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: a situation, and then it was a situation for longer
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: than it should be, and it was such a situation
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: for such a long period of time. Then now it's
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: reduced to a situation.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and even fans are like, let's just move on
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: from this situation.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Yeah, it's very clear we can't do this again,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: so just let him become a free agent. Yeh, goodness sake,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: and then the final one to a situation, and it
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: might be the ultimate situation this offseason. They don't want him.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: They've made it very clear they don't want him. They've
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: hired people that despise him, including Troy Aikman, to be
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: a consultant for the new head coach and the new
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: general manager. They want to get rid of him. They've
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  Speaker 2: made it too obvious they want to get rid of him.
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  Speaker 2: He makes a lot of money, and they are even
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  Speaker 2: to the point they might be willing to give a
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  Speaker 2: team draft compensation just to take his contract off their hands.
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  Speaker 2: But that contract is like fifty six million dollars per
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  Speaker 2: year for a guy that might be one concussion away.
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  Speaker 2: From being done, and so I don't know what kind
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  Speaker 2: of draft compensation.
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  Speaker 4: You'd have to give up for him, two first rounders
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  Speaker 4: to just take yeah. Oh, I mean the Dolphins would
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: have to give yah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you'd have to give two first rounders just
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: to get a team to take off your hands the contract.
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  Speaker 2: And then what if he ends up because he's not
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: without talent, he's not without ability. I mean, I think
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: Hugh Mellen calls him one of the best pre read
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the National Football League. He could go somewhere else.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: You've given up two first rounders for them to take him,
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  Speaker 2: and he could still end up being good.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean Sam Darnold is the perfect example. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just because it's not working for a talented quarterback in
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: one situation doesn't mean that if he doesn't get to
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: a better situation and leave behind his situation, that he
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: couldn't in that new uniform. He's young enough to reignite
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  Speaker 2: his career again. And so I don't know what they're
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: going to do, but I will bring up another topic
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  Speaker 2: that I've discussed numerous times. I would trade him for
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray and if I could get him straight up,
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  Speaker 2: I'd do it, Yeah, straight across, and if I have
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  Speaker 2: to give up a third rounder or fourth rounder in
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: order to do it, because they hate their situation just
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: as much as you hate your situation. But maybe a
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: new environment for two highly thought of prospects at one time,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: one guy that went number one overall, a new environment,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: a new whisperer in the ear, a new system, a
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  Speaker 2: new community. I think it's worth the flop just to
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  Speaker 2: see if we can't, because there's not a great end game.
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  Speaker 4: To this, right, I mean, if you're giving up two
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  Speaker 4: draft picks just to get rid of him, you're losing
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  Speaker 4: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: You're losing a lot. But what if you could just
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: say you take our headache, we'll take your headache. Maybe
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: we've got the anecdote for your headache here in our city.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: And yes, Kyler Murray's doesn't seem to be as big
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: a problem as Tua, so we'll give you a third
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: round instead of giving up two first rounders to a
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: team just to take the entire situation off your hands.
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  Speaker 4: I'd just like to see that happen, because I don't
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: recall very many or if there's ever been just a
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: straight across trade of like you take our guy.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: We'll take your guy. Let's just see what happens.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's happened, has it? Oh it happens. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: I mean there have been plenty of teams that got
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: caught in situations. You just bail us out, help us,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: all right? Coming up next, Al Kaniski will be with us.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: This is the situation that faces us. The Kraken have
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: not played in three weeks. Are they going to come
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: out of the gates on fire or are they going
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: to be struggling and rusted? We can't afford that. We're
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: going to ask Al that question next on Sports Radio
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  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM color analysts for your Seattle Crack,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: and Al Kanisky joins us at every Wednesday at nine thirty.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: We did talk to him last week, so it's not
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: like we haven't reconnected with Al during this break. But
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: the team is back the Crack, the real Krack and
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Shady are back tonight to get ready to take on
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: the Dallas Stars in Texas, and so we had a
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: game to discuss with Al Kiniski today. Good morning out, good,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: I'm good. Everett did say yesterday that he missed you
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: while you were a part Do you share the same
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: sentiment I do.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, you know, for an eighty two game season
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 10: where you're together more than you're not together, it felt
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 10: kind of weird being away for three weeks essentially since
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 10: this team saw the ice. So yeah, it was a
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 10: little odd mid season going apart for true weeks.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: Did the players miss one another? I'm wondering how an
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: NHL locker room handles Canadians with so many Canadians in
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: the locker room versus US players. After that, and then
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: we've also got two fins against the Swede in our
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: locker room as well, there'd be some feelings in this
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: locker room tonight.
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  Speaker 10: Well let's just say that there were two fins that
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 10: had smiles on their face, and an even bigger smile
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 10: was Maddy Benier's because there was probably some internal competition
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 10: abt the Olympics about who was going to win, and
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 10: maybe some I don't know that's were made allegedly, but yeah,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 10: he was pretty happy about the outcome and it's nice
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 10: to see everybody back in the locker room together after
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 10: watching them compete on the big stage over in Italy.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: How did you handle it? How did you handle that
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: the US beat Canada two to one. Even though Canada
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: seemed to outplay them in the end, the US wins it.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: I am rejoicing in my voice, but trying to be
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: sympathetic towards.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: You, Chuck. I'll say all things that are true.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 10: Number one, Connor Hallibuts, the goalie for the US, played
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 10: fantastic and he's the reason that they were left in
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 10: the game because Canada had more than enough opportunities to
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 10: win it. Regulation Number two Canada had a five on
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 10: three opportunity they didn't score. Number three they had a
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 10: wide open net that Nathan McKinnon had a chance on
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 10: he didn't score. And then number three, yes, the US
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 10: one goal. They are the world champions of three on
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 10: three hockey, which is how the overtimes were played.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: Hey, I don't like. I don't like the big games
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: are settled that way either. I don't think it should
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: be settled that way. Obviously, though those are the rules.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: We played by the rules. But do you think they
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: will change it at some point to make sure that
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: when there's such a big thing at stake, that we're
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: playing true hockey and not you know, three on three.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 10: Well, when I put my fan hat on for a moment.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 10: I would love to see five on five hockey continue
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 10: until somebody scores a goal. I don't care how late
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 10: it goes. They might still be playing. Yeah, but when
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 10: you put your hat on of the ownership of the GM,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 10: of the coach, the team that these these players come from,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 10: chances are there are the better chance they get hurt
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 10: as those those overtime games go on. And so I
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 10: understand why they do three on three. It wasn't going
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 10: to go twenty minutes. It probably wasn't gonna go ten minutes.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 10: We felt like probably in the first five someone was
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 10: going to score goal. And part of the reason for
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 10: that is player safety. There's already enough guys coming back
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 10: to their teams with in some cases the season ending
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 10: injuries or in other cases the injuries that they are
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 10: just going to keep them out of the lineup for
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 10: a while. The cracking got the best outcome, which is
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 10: they've got to you know, for if you can't count
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 10: Oscar Fisker, mogor down in the Coachella four guys coming
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 10: back uninjured that have probably all heightened their games and
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 10: they're bringing that fighting game back to the lineup, which
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 10: I think is fantastic.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: How much do you think it will benefit the league
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: to get that momentum from Sunday going into this week.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 10: Every guy that was over there, that played certainly in
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 10: a metal games, has their chest a little bit, has
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 10: their like I said, their game heightened a little bit.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 10: The challenge for them is trying to keep that level
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 10: of game for the remaining twenty six games of the
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 10: season that the crack And have. How can you keep
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 10: that going because you tend to play at the level
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 10: of the people around you, and you know, it's not
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 10: to say there's a big drop up, but there's absolutely
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 10: drop off because you're playing with the best in the
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 10: world when you're in the Olympics. So trying to keep
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 10: that level as high as possible to affect the outcomes
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 10: of the games. And every just about every team has
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 10: somebody that was over there, and some teams have more
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 10: than others. But you know, the krack And face the
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 10: Dallas starsonnight and they've got a few guys that are
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 10: actually injured coming back from the Olympics, so you know
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 10: they're they're not going to see Jake Ottinger, who's typically
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 10: their number one goal goalie starter. They're going to see
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 10: Casey the Smith who's had success against the Cracking, and
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 10: they've still got Jason Robertson, they still got way Johnson.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 10: So it's not going to be an easy game, but
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 10: it might be an easier competition because of those guys
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 10: of the lineup. So the Cracking have to take advantage
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 10: of this opportunity because you know, they're three wins away
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 10: from Dean in first place or three losses away from
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 10: booking tea times for the summer. So you know, they've
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 10: got to take advantage of opportunities like this that they've got.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Tonight, And I would I think the whole season rests
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: on the way they come out and play starting tonight.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: The next five to ten games out I think determines
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: whether or not the krack and make it to the playoffs.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: So how do you feel, Yeah, I think you're right.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 10: You know, you go on a bit of a losing
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 10: streak and go two and eight in those ten or
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 10: you go the opposite way. Maybe you're six and four,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 10: maybe you're eight and two. This team is definitely in
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 10: a playoff spot. But I think it's about you know,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 10: maybe that thirty percent rule where you might end up
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 10: losing thirty percent. Maybe you squeak a few points in
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 10: overtime out of it, but you can't go any on
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 10: any extended losing streaks at this point in the season.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 10: They've already had that happen early in the season. It
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 10: can't be that way anymore.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: Well, they won six of their last eight heading into
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: the three week layoff, and it felt to me, and
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, I really got to lean
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: on you for this. It felt to me like that
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: search for a number one line was finally rewarded. I mean,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: it just felt to me like they had identified a
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: line that was scoring most every night to close out
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: those eight over the course of those eight games. And
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: I would assume they're going to start that way tonight
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: in Dallas.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's right.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 10: I think that the number one line, the line of
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 10: Veneers everly and the can is solidified, at least for
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 10: right now. I would not be surprised if they stay
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 10: together for the rest of the season. They've been playing
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 10: really well. I'm not sure they're really a gagline goal
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 10: a game line yet, but you'd love to see them
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 10: get to that point through the rest of the season.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: But I think that this team has always had success
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: with their depth. And when you talk about depth.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 10: And you see scoring coming from the blue line, from
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 10: their defense, and when you see Shane Rice has got
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 10: four goals in those last two games, you're starting to
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 10: see that scoring or not starting. But you're continue to
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 10: see scoring come from not just that number one line,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 10: but certainly the top three. And when your fourth line
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 10: contributes as well, this team's unstoppable. So if they can
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 10: continue to execute on that recipe, you're going to see
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 10: this team get a lot of those wins over the
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 10: next twenty six games.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: All right, give us, give us the key. I mean,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: whether you get as general as you want about it
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: or get as granular and specific as you want about it.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Twenty five games to make the Stanley Cup playoffs, What
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: will be the key to the crack and getting there?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean, I'll give you a little little insight
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 10: into my keys tonight, which i'll talk about in the
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 10: pre game, which is you've got to start simple, right
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 10: this first game coming out of the break, certainly the
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 10: month of March, but certainly the first game you're knocking
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 10: to rust off off your boots, off your hands. You've
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 10: got to play simple. That helps you knock that rust off.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 10: So simple as part of the key, at least for
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 10: the few first few games, but certainly over the next
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 10: twenty six it's continuing to put a priority on what
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 10: has had you've had success with, which is this lane
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 10: Lambert defense first mentality, but attacking when you get those opportunities.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 10: And then I think the third one is is and
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 10: you said it yourself, the starts. This team does not
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 10: have as much success win they give up that first
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 10: goal in the first period, when the first ten minutes
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 10: looks like the opposing team is all all over them.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 10: They've got to have good starts. You couple that with
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 10: great goaltending for the rest of the season. We're gonna
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 10: be talking about this team, maybe not just through the
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 10: first round of the playoffs, but deeper into the playoffs.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: Well, glad to have the gang back together. Can't wait
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: to listen tonight, Everett fits you Al Kiniski on the call.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: It'll be cracking at the Dallas Stars pregame at four
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: thirty five o'clock. They'll drop the puck. First game in
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: three weeks and time to get back on the winning track.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: So have a blast, Al, and we appreciate your time.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: As always, you got a chuck good there. He is
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Al Konisky, color analyst for yours Seattle Crack. In his
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• 1:33:48
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• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: I hope when I talk about food that people get
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: just as fired up as I get. Hearing Al talk
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  Speaker 4: I know, and I talk about dairy free cheese, people
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  Speaker 4: get super excited.
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  Speaker 2: I need to have a talk with you off there.
• 1:34:08
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  Speaker 2: the Kraken with open arms. We got a Stanley Cup
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: playoff to qualify.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: Starts tonight very first, not just tonight. In the first
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: ten minutes. Al's right, get off to a great start.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm not just talking about a win tonight. I'm
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: talking about the first ten minutes. I want to be
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