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The Unconscious Mind in Healing with Dr. Brian Alman · The Trauma Therapist

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Trauma Therapists podcast. My name is Gimick person.
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Speaker 1: So five four, three, two and one, our folks, welcome
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Speaker 1: back to the podcast. Very excited to have as my
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Speaker 1: guest today, Doctor Brian Allman. Brian, welcome, Thank you guy.
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Speaker 3: Guy.
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Speaker 1: You are welcome. Love it. Doctor Brian Alman, the renowned
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Speaker 1: Doctor of Last Resort, is the world leading authority on
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Speaker 1: accessing the unconscious mind for healing trauma, resolving stress, and
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Speaker 1: activating inner wisdom. After more than twenty five years helping
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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people worldwide transform their mental and
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Speaker 1: physical health. His evidence based methodology has become the gold
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Speaker 1: standard for those who have quote tried everything without success.
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Speaker 1: As a treatment solution expert for the landmark ACE Study
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Speaker 1: alongside doctor Vincent Filetti, doctor Almond bridges the gap between
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Speaker 1: understanding charlot to trauma and providing practical healing solutions. His
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Speaker 1: work has helped reduce medical visits by thirty five percent
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Speaker 1: and emergency visits by eleven percent in studies, with one
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five thousand people, saving Kaiser billions in
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Speaker 1: health care costs. All right, Brian, obviously, just a little
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Speaker 1: bit about you before we start, share a little listening listeners.
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Speaker 1: Where you're from originally and where you are currently.
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Speaker 2: Originally from Boston, Massachusetts. So if you hear that I
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Speaker 2: don't use rs in my words like pock the car
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Speaker 2: and set up, you'll know where I'm from. And then
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Speaker 2: the day I graduated undergraduate school college in Boston at
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Speaker 2: Suffolk University, I moved to San Diego because I wanted
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Speaker 2: to get trained by doctor Milton Erickson who was in Phoenix.
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Speaker 2: And doctor Erickson was the mind body expert to all
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Speaker 2: the medical psychology educators, nurses, teachers, and I had the
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Speaker 2: good fortune of being able to get trained by him
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Speaker 2: in mind body healing. So he insisted I get an mdophd.
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Speaker 2: In psychology, which I did because I wanted the training
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Speaker 2: so much. So I moved to San Diego, got my degree,
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Speaker 2: traveled back and forth to Phoenix for four years, and
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Speaker 2: helped me write my first book. We just finished our
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Speaker 2: sixteenth book.
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Speaker 1: And who wrote sixteenth book? Yes, my god?
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Speaker 2: So Erikson was how I got from Boston to San Diego.
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Speaker 2: And then once in San Diego, I got connected with
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Speaker 2: doctor Vincent Filetti, who hadn't started the Adverse Childhood Experience
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Speaker 2: to study of the A study, yet he was referring
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Speaker 2: people to me from Mind Body Healing of people that
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Speaker 2: were traumatized, weren't getting better, the system was not helping them,
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Speaker 2: and they were going through the typical biomedical laws of
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Speaker 2: medical problems. You know the immune system, and you know
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Speaker 2: cancer and heart disease and autoimmune illnesses and addictions. So
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Speaker 2: he would send them to me one on one, which
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Speaker 2: I did, and then I create a follow up system
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Speaker 2: because even once you help people, you have to make
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Speaker 2: sure they integrate the techniques into the daily lives, and
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Speaker 2: he asked me to be the founding director of the
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Speaker 2: ACE Treatment Solution Division, which I did with him at
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Speaker 2: Kaiser for almost three decades. We've been meeting every week
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Speaker 2: for that long and he's now part of my company,
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Speaker 2: truce Age and my app Enlightened. I just finished the
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Speaker 2: book with him, from Trauma to Enlightenment, and so doctor
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Speaker 2: Fileddi and I were the step after my training from
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Speaker 2: Milton Erickson, and you know that's what I'm still doing
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Speaker 2: to this day.
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Speaker 1: So how did this start for you, this interests, this passion,
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Speaker 1: Where does it begin?
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Speaker 2: It's very interesting guy, doctor Philetti and I Vincent got
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Speaker 2: into the field of aces and treatment solutions and adverse
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Speaker 2: life experiences at any age for the very same reason.
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Speaker 2: We both we found out after a while of collaborating
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Speaker 2: and we've actually helped each other and we've done videos
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Speaker 2: on this. Had the experience of neglect. That's an adverse
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Speaker 2: childhood experience. That's an ACE. It's traumatic to be neglected
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Speaker 2: by a family member for whatever reason that is. And
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Speaker 2: as young boys growing up, both of us had fathers
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Speaker 2: who were very consumed with putting bread on the table,
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Speaker 2: you know, roof over your head, not home very much
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Speaker 2: with work or after work activities. And so we both
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Speaker 2: grew up with that feeling, that experience of neglect, and
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Speaker 2: both were traumatized when we found out that our parents
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Speaker 2: were going to get a divorce when we were still young.
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Speaker 2: And just to show you the emotional, psychological, physical connections,
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Speaker 2: he got such a bad headache he ended up in
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Speaker 2: the hospital, dropped out of school for a semester once
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Speaker 2: you heard that they might get a divorce, meaning his
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Speaker 2: mom and dad. I was traumatized a little bit younger
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Speaker 2: than that, I was still in high school by the
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Speaker 2: same thing, that neglect that we both had turned into
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Speaker 2: a divorce that actually occurred. And that's traumatic because all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, your life is ripped up economically, emotionally, parents, family,
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Speaker 2: where you live, you move, all that. So that created
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Speaker 2: the passion in both of us to want to help
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Speaker 2: people who have been through a traumatic experience of any kind,
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Speaker 2: from a natural disaster to a family domestic situation, to
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Speaker 2: sexual abuse, to whatever the traumas were, and how they
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Speaker 2: manifest emotionally, psychologically, and in the body. So that is
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Speaker 2: what got both of us passionate about doing the ace
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Speaker 2: work creating the questions. Started off with about forty questions,
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Speaker 2: got down to ten. Now it's twelve questions. We added
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Speaker 2: two about five years ago we added a positive Childhood
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Speaker 2: Experiences assessment twelve questions as well. We added an adverse
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Speaker 2: adult experience because not all traumas happened between birth and eighteen.
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Speaker 2: And so my job is the treatment solution partner with him.
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Speaker 2: His job is the assessments and getting to the root
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Speaker 2: cause and then handing it over to me to help
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Speaker 2: people resolve the root cause and then integrate the skills
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Speaker 2: into the daily lives so they can be happy and
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Speaker 2: healthy and you know, have a very good life after
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Speaker 2: struggling usually for years and decades and thinking they'd never
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Speaker 2: get better.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian share with us even before that this this
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Speaker 1: interest you had. Where did this come from?
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, unfortunately, and I know some people would
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Speaker 2: say it was fortunate. I was born missing part of
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Speaker 2: my back part of L four and L five, So
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Speaker 2: why chronic back pain is a get So PE was
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Speaker 2: a big issue for me. To get through the physical
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Speaker 2: education classes sports which I love, to be able to
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Speaker 2: be on a team and stay on a team was painful.
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Speaker 2: It was difficult, and of course no one believes a
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Speaker 2: kid when they say they're in too much pain to
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Speaker 2: go back and play. But it was so painful because
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Speaker 2: all the nerves you can see it in the X ray,
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Speaker 2: are being pinched in between the L four H five
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Speaker 2: part of the vertebrate that's missing.
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Speaker 3: So a physical.
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Speaker 2: Disability difficulty is traumatic for a kid because you don't
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Speaker 2: fit in, you made fun of, you're bullied, you know,
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Speaker 2: you feel less than you feel worse. And so I
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Speaker 2: had to do a lot of activities that were solo,
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Speaker 2: such as hiking through the woods of Massachusetts on my
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Speaker 2: own from a young age and just learning from my
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Speaker 2: teacher called Mother Nature. And interestingly enough, Milton Erickson, he
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Speaker 2: had polio as a kid. He wasn't even supposed to
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Speaker 2: make it to twenty years old. I met him when
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Speaker 2: he was seventy five. So he found in Mother Nature
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Speaker 2: also challenges, but also ways to prove himself that he
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Speaker 2: could actually deal with things and overcome challenges, whether it's
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Speaker 2: the river, the creek, the trees being lost, the rocks,
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Speaker 2: whatever the fear difficulty was. So we both went to
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Speaker 2: Mother Nature as a way of proving that we are worthy,
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Speaker 2: that we're capable, we can handle difficulties. So it all
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Speaker 2: started for me in my lower back with doctor Erickson,
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Speaker 2: and all started with him with the polio and with
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Speaker 2: doctor Filetti, as I mentioned, our neglect, our ace of
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Speaker 2: what was happening in the family. So those were the
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Speaker 2: drivers and still are to help people in difficulties that
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Speaker 2: they didn't think there was any help out there for
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Speaker 2: because they've already typically tried everything.
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Speaker 1: This topic of mind, body, the unconscious mind, how did
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Speaker 1: that come into your focus? When did that come into
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Speaker 1: your focus?
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Speaker 2: The book that I wrote with doctor Ericsson's help was
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Speaker 2: a book called Self Hypnosis, and it became very popular
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Speaker 2: around the world, translated into a lot of languages. I'm
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Speaker 2: in my early twenties now I'm teaching at the university.
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Speaker 2: Because of doctor Ericsson, I did the book. I published
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Speaker 2: a very well known article in this serie Mind Body
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Speaker 2: Healing that he helped me with, and actually doctor Filetti
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Speaker 2: got it published in the Kaiser Permanente Medical Journal a
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Speaker 2: few years later.
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Speaker 3: And so I was.
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Speaker 2: Always interested in how the mind could help the body,
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Speaker 2: like my back, like issues like neglect, like sexual abuse,
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Speaker 2: like the reasons people become obese, what causes cancer. What
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Speaker 2: causes cardiovascular disease are the root causes? That was fascinating
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Speaker 2: to me for myself and to help others. And so
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Speaker 2: I got invited because of this first book to India
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Speaker 2: to teach meditators and yoga teachers how to go deeper
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Speaker 2: into meditation and yoga. And I thought, well, this is interesting.
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Speaker 2: You know, guy from Boston, from California writes a book
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Speaker 2: and some guru saw it and thought that this could
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Speaker 2: help the meditation yoga teachers go deeper because he's using
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Speaker 2: self hypnosis. So they have to trust themselves, They have
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Speaker 2: to cooperate with themselves. Nobody's hypnotizing them. It's not losing control.
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Speaker 2: It's actually they're letting go of some control to gain
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Speaker 2: a greater control.
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Speaker 3: So I go.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to see if anybody was enlightened. That was
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Speaker 2: my own personal agenda. I could teach. I practiced, I studied,
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Speaker 2: I figured out the best techniques.
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Speaker 3: I was ready. Workshops went great.
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Speaker 2: People loved it, they went deeper than they had ever gone,
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Speaker 2: and so that's really fund Of course, we did videos
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Speaker 2: about that, and so that experience in India brought me
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Speaker 2: to the question, is anybody really enlightened? And can I
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Speaker 2: teach these techniques go deeper into yoga meditation, which I
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Speaker 2: was successful at and people really loved and appreciated. And
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Speaker 2: then when I was leaving one of the wonderful teachers,
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Speaker 2: I met great women and men said well, what do
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Speaker 2: you think enlightenment is? That you search for an enlightened group?
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Speaker 2: Because you said you haven't met one yet. What do
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Speaker 2: you think it is?
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Speaker 3: And I said what I said to you guy.
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Speaker 2: In the moment above it all transcendent, always in the zone.
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Speaker 3: Things don't bother. You said no, and I said, uh, oh.
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Speaker 2: Rambling around what I'm looking for the wrong, what's going on?
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Speaker 3: I've left my body for a moment. Oh my goodness, gracious.
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Speaker 2: And he said to me, enlightenment is unconditional acceptance of yourself.
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Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, that's what doctor Fleddie and I've
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Speaker 2: been teaching for decades. That's what doctor Erikson I wrote
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Speaker 2: the book about, and teaching clients and patients forever.
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Speaker 3: That's what we do.
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Speaker 2: So we we Dector Felly today and I were building
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Speaker 2: our ace app our a solution app. We changed the
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Speaker 2: name immediately to Enlightened. We didn't want to call it
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Speaker 2: enlightenment because we want people think what we thought. So
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Speaker 2: he shortened the name he and l I g HTN
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Speaker 2: and made it enlightened, which is all about your aces,
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Speaker 2: your positives, all your life experiences in delivering individualized solutions
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Speaker 2: to people to resolve trauma, stress, chronic stress difficulties. And
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Speaker 2: so it came out of my lesson. I'm there to teach,
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Speaker 2: and I actually got more lessons than I taught. Mind
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Speaker 2: body healing, What is health? What is well being? How
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Speaker 2: do you resolve issues? Mind body, emotion, spirituality? All of
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Speaker 2: the above holistic, And that's how it evolved.
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Speaker 1: This interest in what's the umbrella term week, holistic medicine,
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Speaker 1: holistic approaches, mind body enlightenment. Did this come about because
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Speaker 1: of your own situation with your back and the struggle there?
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Speaker 3: It did?
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Speaker 2: That was the root cause for me, was the back
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Speaker 2: being born missing in the pain. Then, of course everything
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Speaker 2: is biopsychosocial. We're not just biomedical where a psychological relationship.
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Speaker 2: Where biological, we're also spiritual love relationships of the most
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Speaker 2: important things to us.
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Speaker 3: So yes, it was.
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Speaker 2: For my own pain, my own problems, that I was
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Speaker 2: able to utilize and go deep into the acceptance, the understanding,
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Speaker 2: the letting go even the judging, all of the drama
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Speaker 2: inside to get to that unconditional acceptance of my traumas,
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Speaker 2: unconditional acceptance.
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Speaker 3: Of my lower back.
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Speaker 2: I used to be in pain guy ninety percent of
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Speaker 2: the time, and now I'm free of pain ninety five
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Speaker 2: percent of the time. It's still my barometer if I'm
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Speaker 2: repressing emotions, if I'm stressed, or if work not taking
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Speaker 2: care of myself. My lower back tells me, hey, guess
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Speaker 2: what you're going to be on comfortable because you're not.
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Speaker 2: So we all have to practice what we teach, and so,
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Speaker 2: of course doctor ericson doctor flating myself. We practice the
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Speaker 2: techniques that we developed for the A Solutions on a
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Speaker 2: daily basis ourselves.
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Speaker 3: So you have to be.
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Speaker 2: Able to integrate all of this deep inner learning, mind, body, emotion, spiritual.
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Speaker 2: Have to integrate it into your daily life so that
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Speaker 2: you're taking care of your biopsychosocial system, your mind, your body,
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Speaker 2: your emotions, your love, your relationships. So being accepting yourself,
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Speaker 2: being healthy and happy is a full time opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Full time opportunity. You didn't say full time job. You
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Speaker 1: said full time opportunity. Easier said than done. Why did
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Speaker 1: that become so important to you, maybe more so, if
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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, maybe more so than therapy or other treatments.
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Speaker 2: True, I actually didn't know if I would ever get better.
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Speaker 2: I actually didn't know if I would ever get free
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Speaker 2: of the pain, because I tried everything, all the medical,
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Speaker 2: all the orthopedic, all the medication, all the physical therapy.
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Speaker 2: Everybody tries everything. I tried everything, and when I was
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Speaker 2: working with doctor Erickson, it wasn't right away.
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Speaker 3: It took me almost two years until I felt, wow,
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Speaker 3: I can actually be free of this pain. This is
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Speaker 3: incredible now only for short periods of time at first,
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Speaker 3: and then longer periods of time. I integrated the skills
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Speaker 3: that I was learning, and I appreciate the value of therapy.
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Speaker 2: You know PhD in psychology, I teach physicians, therapists, nurses,
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Speaker 2: social works. I value that approach. For some people, it's
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Speaker 2: a bridge, it's a part of the journey. It can
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Speaker 2: be very I recommend it. However, to really be able
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Speaker 2: to get like you use the term holistic, and we're
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Speaker 2: talking about whole system, whole you, and that requires more
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Speaker 2: than therapy. Therapy is a bridge to get to your unconscious,
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Speaker 2: to get to so you have a conscious, you have
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Speaker 2: a subconscious, and you have an unconscious. You have a
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Speaker 2: guy movie. That's your conscious mind, your everyday life. You
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Speaker 2: have a fifteenth throw perspective of the guy movie, watching
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Speaker 2: what's wrong, what's not perfect, what could be better, doubting, skeptical,
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Speaker 2: whatever it is. That's your subconscious. That's your junkyard, your
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Speaker 2: basement where your conscious mind pushes things down. It doesn't
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Speaker 2: know what to do, so they stay there. Therapy and
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Speaker 2: most treatment solutions go from the conscious to the subconscious
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Speaker 2: conscious from the movie to the fifteenth throw perspective. So
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Speaker 2: from the movie to the observer. The observer's judging the
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Speaker 2: movie's feeling. It's the emotions fighting with the mom back
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Speaker 2: and forth. The unconscious is a last row perspective.
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Speaker 3: Of the movie.
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Speaker 2: So now you're in the very back row. You're in
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Speaker 2: the last row. This is the relaxed, distant enough yet connected,
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Speaker 2: engaged but detached. This last row is your unconscious inner,
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Speaker 2: not conscious yet, not thought of, yet brand new. You
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Speaker 2: can't program it, you can't give it training, you can't
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Speaker 2: give it a formula. The last row is always present.
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Speaker 3: It's the creative you.
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Speaker 2: I call it your inner doctor, your unconscious mind is
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Speaker 2: this last row perspective that sees you have a fifteenth
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Speaker 2: throw that's been critical and judgmental and never satisfying. You're
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Speaker 2: never good enough and you're not perfect yet, so you're
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Speaker 2: not okay. It knows you have a movie, your body,
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Speaker 2: your relationships, your work, your money, your life. So it's
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Speaker 2: the unconscious which is where you'll get all your best
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Speaker 2: answers from your inner voice, your inter truce age, your innerdoctor.
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Speaker 3: And you're not.
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Speaker 2: Getting rid of your fifteenth throw critic. This is what
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Speaker 2: I learned in India, is what I learned in America,
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Speaker 2: all the fifty countries that I've had a chance to
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Speaker 2: present or teach or learn. People in therapy try to
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Speaker 2: get rid of their subconscious judge, critic, satisfied, never go
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Speaker 2: enough part of them. And I tell people that has
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Speaker 2: a lifetime membership, you couldn't get rid of it with
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Speaker 2: a lobotomy. It would be like our lives are a
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Speaker 2: tree and all the rings of the tree represent a
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Speaker 2: different age and stage of our life. You can't cut
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Speaker 2: a tree and have dig out the drought, trauma, rainy years,
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Speaker 2: glue the tree back together and think it's going to
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Speaker 2: grow the same screw about us as people. We have
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Speaker 2: to be unconscious, our present ring, our last row, our unconscious,
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Speaker 2: and take care of when our fifteenth row, fifteen year
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Speaker 2: old self comes in, when our one year old is
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Speaker 2: crying and upset and one our twenty year old is
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Speaker 2: triggered and doesn't know what to do. Our present ring,
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Speaker 2: our last row perspective, our unconscious has to be able
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Speaker 2: to support, take care of, reassure, understand, heal, help, whether
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Speaker 2: it's a two year old US, fifteen year old, U
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Speaker 2: twenty year old was conscious subconscious. So the unconscious is
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Speaker 2: where we find our best answers. That's our inner wisdom,
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Speaker 2: that's our inner doctor, inner wise woman in her wise
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Speaker 2: man in a truce age. That unconscious, that last row
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Speaker 2: can take care of all of us. And yet it
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Speaker 2: is holistic. We are all the rings of the tree.
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Speaker 2: We are also our subconscious is a part of us,
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Speaker 2: like our fingers and toes.
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Speaker 3: Conscious is a part of us.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So two questions here, how do we how
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Speaker 1: do we access that right? I mean that sounds like
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Speaker 1: a very simple question, but also how do we utilize
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Speaker 1: that in our own healing or as you've talked about
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Speaker 1: healing anxiety and healing trauma. How does that come into play?
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Speaker 2: Well, it is a simple question, it has a simple answer,
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Speaker 2: and as you said, it actually takes patience and perseverance.
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Speaker 2: It takes work to be able to integrate this into
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Speaker 2: your daily life. It starts with awareness, and that's why
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Speaker 2: we give people the twelve questions. The adverse Childhood Experiences
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Speaker 2: Assessment takes five minutes to answer. You'll learn a lot.
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Speaker 2: Why we give them the twelve question positive Childhood Experience
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Speaker 2: assessment take you five minutes, You'll.
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Speaker 3: Learn a lot.
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Speaker 2: So you have to have awareness of at what age
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Speaker 2: did I first start to gain weight? And what age
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Speaker 2: did I first become addicted?
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Speaker 1: At?
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Speaker 3: What age do my stomach ache start at? What age?
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Speaker 3: Do my insomnia begin at? What age? Did so? At?
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Speaker 3: What age? What stage? Which ring of the tree?
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Speaker 2: You need that awareness and I would even follow that
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Speaker 2: up to help you be more aware.
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Speaker 3: Why then, why not two years earlier, two years later?
22:07
Speaker 2: What was happening in your life? How did it impact you?
22:11
Speaker 2: And how is it still impacting you? So awareness is
22:15
Speaker 2: the first step. The second step and this is counterintuitive
22:19
Speaker 2: and yet it's absolutely essential. Is we have to go
22:22
Speaker 2: from awareness to acceptance. Okay, that was my life. Then
22:27
Speaker 2: that was my traumatic experience. That's when my headachesperience, when
22:31
Speaker 2: my stomach problems begin, that's when my body started to
22:34
Speaker 2: feel broken. Okay, you need to be able to accept
22:37
Speaker 2: it because it's so counterintuitive, because what everybody does is
22:40
Speaker 2: they judge it. I'm mad at my body. My body's
22:43
Speaker 2: not cureing me the way it should.
22:45
Speaker 3: It's not working right. I'm not happy with it.
22:49
Speaker 2: And that judgment closes us off inside and we're no
22:52
Speaker 2: longer open to evolving, understanding, changing. So we have to
22:58
Speaker 2: go from awareness to judgment because we're going there anyway.
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Speaker 3: To acceptance.
23:03
Speaker 2: We have to get to accepting our traumas, our stomach,
23:08
Speaker 2: our head, our issues, our problems. Acceptance opens the heart,
23:14
Speaker 2: it opens the mind. There are exact techniques, they're very simple,
23:18
Speaker 2: they're easy to individualize, and acceptance is the next move
23:23
Speaker 2: after awareness, then the big move. And by the way,
23:26
Speaker 2: awareness and acceptance aren't enough for their bridges, then you
23:29
Speaker 2: go to letting, go to releasing. This is where the
23:32
Speaker 2: catharsis comes in, and this is where the dancing meditation
23:35
Speaker 2: comes in. This is where the journaling comes in. This
23:38
Speaker 2: is where the therapy comes in. Where we have to
23:40
Speaker 2: learn how real, how to how to let go in
23:43
Speaker 2: ways that work for us individually, whether it's working out,
23:47
Speaker 2: whether it's walking, whether it's sitting quietly, journaling, journaling with
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Speaker 2: non dominante and singing, whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean by let go? What does that mean?
23:58
Speaker 3: Release the press?
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Speaker 2: Sure when the tension from our minds, our bodies, our emotions,
24:03
Speaker 2: our rings of the tree to release, because what we're
24:06
Speaker 2: doing is we're repressing, We're pushing them down, we're holding
24:11
Speaker 2: amin we're creating more tension. We're becoming fearful of being afraid,
24:17
Speaker 2: we're becoming judgmental, of judging ourselves. So all of that
24:21
Speaker 2: tension has to be released in ways that work for
24:25
Speaker 2: each one of us individually, which can take a while.
24:28
Speaker 2: That's not enough either, that's a bridge. You know, we
24:32
Speaker 2: know about primal screen, we know about Kundolini dancing meditations,
24:36
Speaker 2: we know about all the breath work, all the therapies,
24:39
Speaker 2: all the different approaches. Letting go is as important as awareness.
24:43
Speaker 2: And it's still not enough. Okay, So still more movement then,
24:48
Speaker 2: And this is the part that's probably the most surprising
24:52
Speaker 2: for people and the most counterintuitive, is that after we
24:55
Speaker 2: have awareness, and acceptance, and we're letting go. We still
24:59
Speaker 2: tend to be judgmental of ourselves. But I haven't accomplished
25:02
Speaker 2: this yet.
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Speaker 3: And look at the mistakes I made, and look at.
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Speaker 2: The people I've got evolved in, and look look at
25:09
Speaker 2: all the frogs I've kissed.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, you know, look at my life.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So we all have this fifteen throw inner judge
25:16
Speaker 2: subconscious we have to do the same thing. We have
25:20
Speaker 2: to become aware of that. We have to accept it
25:23
Speaker 2: because you're not getting rid of it, okay, And then
25:26
Speaker 2: we have to let go of that inner judge. Now,
25:29
Speaker 2: most people just wanted to go away, get rid of it,
25:32
Speaker 2: stop it mission impossible. You have to learn to be
25:35
Speaker 2: aware except and let go because it's part of us
25:39
Speaker 2: and it can be helpful sometimes. Get you to stop
25:42
Speaker 2: at red lights when you're driving, get you to discern
25:44
Speaker 2: maybe who's good, who's so it has value. You just
25:48
Speaker 2: don't want to have that be running your life because
25:51
Speaker 2: you'll be stopping yourself, controlling yourself, and you'll be tense
25:54
Speaker 2: all the time.
25:56
Speaker 3: So then after all of that, then we.
25:59
Speaker 2: Get to go to our unconscious are into wisdom because
26:03
Speaker 2: all that awareness, acceptance, letting go judging. Letting go of
26:07
Speaker 2: the judging, it gets us to a much more relaxed
26:10
Speaker 2: place inside where we have more peace of mind, our
26:14
Speaker 2: bodies actually feel comfortable. It's so interesting to have this result.
26:21
Speaker 2: Now there are exact techniques to accomplish this that are delightful, enjoyable.
26:26
Speaker 2: All of this journey feels right because it is right.
26:30
Speaker 2: And then once we get to that unconscious, then we
26:33
Speaker 2: find our own best answers because you know, I know,
26:37
Speaker 2: you can travel the four corners of the earth looking
26:39
Speaker 2: for somebody to give you the best answers, and ultimately
26:41
Speaker 2: the smartest people are going to turn it right back on.
26:44
Speaker 3: Us and say, well, what do you think is the best?
26:47
Speaker 3: What a minute?
26:48
Speaker 2: I just travel halfway around the world to get to you.
26:50
Speaker 2: You're the you're the expert, you're the teacher, and you're
26:53
Speaker 2: asking me.
26:54
Speaker 3: If I knew.
26:55
Speaker 2: But they give you so much space and so much
26:57
Speaker 2: acceptance that it connects you with your own conscious mind
27:00
Speaker 2: and you're like, huh, maybe I do know the answer
27:03
Speaker 2: to my work, my relationship, my life, my body. So
27:08
Speaker 2: that unconscious, that inner wisdom we have to get from ourselves,
27:15
Speaker 2: because even after travel into the full corners of the earth.
27:18
Speaker 2: Ultimately we all find the best answers inside of ourselves
27:21
Speaker 2: after we've journeyed and tried everything and met everybody. Yes,
27:25
Speaker 2: that's part of it, but ultimately it comes from yourself.
27:30
Speaker 1: So we've all heard about hypnosis, meditation. Is that what
27:37
Speaker 1: we're talking about here, just relaxing to the point where
27:41
Speaker 1: we're just like, I've been listening to hypnosis tapes recently
27:48
Speaker 1: and at least two of them, and they all both
27:52
Speaker 1: have this thread, this commonality, which is you're going lower,
27:58
Speaker 1: either you're getting on a you're going downstairs, and you're
28:01
Speaker 1: going lower, you're getting an elevator, you're going down lower.
28:04
Speaker 1: Is that what we're talking about here, this idea of
28:07
Speaker 1: getting lower or deeper or.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's really being able to get through the conscious
28:15
Speaker 2: and subconscious, the feelings, the emotions, the judge, the critic,
28:21
Speaker 2: all of the mind issues, all the body issues. So
28:25
Speaker 2: the sixteenth book we just finished, it's called All Hypnosis
28:29
Speaker 2: and Self Hypnosis because we want people to understand that
28:33
Speaker 2: when you can connect with your unconscious, you're in a wisdom.
28:37
Speaker 2: It's because you're cooperating with yourself, your emotions, your mind,
28:42
Speaker 2: your body, your history, your rings of the tree and
28:45
Speaker 2: because you can trust yourself all. So self hypnosis is
28:50
Speaker 2: about self trust and cooperation, collaboration with all the different emotions,
28:57
Speaker 2: all the different body experiences, all the traumas. So self
29:01
Speaker 2: hypnosis is a device, a technique. We really appreciate it.
29:06
Speaker 2: It's not the answer. It's like a boat, you know,
29:09
Speaker 2: it's like a car. It can get you places. And
29:12
Speaker 2: ultimately it's not like thank you boat, thank you car
29:16
Speaker 2: for getting me here, you saved my life. No, no,
29:19
Speaker 2: it just got you to what you're saying about that
29:22
Speaker 2: deeper inner. It got you to your unconscious I think
29:26
Speaker 2: if it sometimes as more you know up more, you know,
29:30
Speaker 2: a higher self, more of a connection with life, with
29:34
Speaker 2: mother nature, with wisdom.
29:36
Speaker 3: With God, with God. Is you know? So uh?
29:40
Speaker 2: Self hypnosis is a bridge, it's a technique. It's how
29:43
Speaker 2: to like a device, like a like a car, like
29:47
Speaker 2: a boat, all of those things can get you across
29:49
Speaker 2: the river and get you across the city. Ultimately it's
29:52
Speaker 2: to get you, me, all of us, to our inner wisdom,
29:57
Speaker 2: our true authentic self, who we really are. And so
30:03
Speaker 2: self hypnosis would be the maybe a ride or meditation
30:07
Speaker 2: of mind body healing. But then you have to get
30:09
Speaker 2: out of the ride the boat, of the car, across
30:11
Speaker 2: the train and the.
30:11
Speaker 3: Plane and live your life.
30:14
Speaker 2: And it just got you to where you deserve to be,
30:19
Speaker 2: which is connected and integrating who you really are, not
30:24
Speaker 2: dependent on anybody else or anything else. The device got
30:28
Speaker 2: you there. But it's not the device's you know deal,
30:32
Speaker 2: it's you, It's us.
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Speaker 1: And that requires what that requires self trust? Huge?
30:41
Speaker 3: Huge?
30:42
Speaker 1: What else does it require?
30:44
Speaker 2: The ability, the tools, the skills to know how to
30:48
Speaker 2: collaborate with all of you, all of your different emotions.
30:53
Speaker 2: And usually people have a lot I call them committee members,
30:56
Speaker 2: rings of the tree. People have a lot of emotions.
30:59
Speaker 2: You know how many thought people have. The most powerful
31:02
Speaker 2: pharmacy in the world is between your ears, so you
31:04
Speaker 2: have thousands of thoughts in our I mean, the mind
31:07
Speaker 2: is incredible what it can do for us or cause
31:12
Speaker 2: problems for us. So that collaboration with your emotional selves,
31:19
Speaker 2: your mental psychological neuroscience, synapses, dendrites, the cooperation with your mind,
31:29
Speaker 2: and then of course the cooperation with your body, and
31:33
Speaker 2: then your history and then whether it's intergenerational or just
31:37
Speaker 2: from your parents, whatever it is. So there's a lot
31:40
Speaker 2: of cooperation and collaboration that's needed to be able to
31:45
Speaker 2: really be able to celebrate that self trust and then
31:50
Speaker 2: be able to utilize it in your everyday living.
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Speaker 1: So as we kind of wind down here, you've written
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Speaker 1: sixteen books. Jesus, congratulations, thank you. You're hanging out with
32:08
Speaker 1: Mount Merrickson, Vincent Filetti. I mean, what would you say,
32:14
Speaker 1: Brian at this point? Is your mission? I mean, obviously
32:19
Speaker 1: you have a passion for this.
32:22
Speaker 3: No question about it.
32:25
Speaker 2: Helping people live happier and healthier from now on and
32:31
Speaker 2: learning to your point, Guy, the word you use was
32:34
Speaker 2: one hundred percent correct. Utilizing all of their past experiences,
32:40
Speaker 2: utilizing what's going on emotionally, mentally, physically, relationships, spirituality, utilizing
32:47
Speaker 2: all that to help yourself through my mission to be
32:53
Speaker 2: healthier and happier than you've ever been. Doctor Fletti did it.
32:57
Speaker 2: He had a stroke and he was struggling terribly and
33:02
Speaker 2: healed completely and even healed things that he didn't even.
33:06
Speaker 3: Know were unhealed.
33:08
Speaker 2: You know, you've got doctor Erickson with a polio who
33:11
Speaker 2: lived seventy years past his expectations. So miracles, amazing results
33:19
Speaker 2: are possible when we tap into our inner wisdom and
33:22
Speaker 2: the ace. The adverse childhood experiences. That's the book, that's
33:26
Speaker 2: the app. The Enlightened app is our thirty years of
33:30
Speaker 2: work doctor Fleddie and I. The recent book From Trauma
33:34
Speaker 2: to Enlightenment is the result of everything we learned in
33:37
Speaker 2: the a study also and to your point, the books,
33:41
Speaker 2: the app, the mission. Of course, I work with wonderful people,
33:46
Speaker 2: and of course it takes a community. Of course, it
33:49
Speaker 2: takes a team. And so I'm very fortunate, as you said,
33:53
Speaker 2: with doctor FLETTI, doctor Ericksson, many other people in my
33:58
Speaker 2: life now who are really great people, high integrity, on
34:03
Speaker 2: the same mission, doing great work. So there's a lot
34:08
Speaker 2: of collaboration on the inside and there's a lot of
34:10
Speaker 2: collaboration on the outside. And that's my mission. That's my purpose,
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Speaker 2: is to bring this to the world. You get billions
34:17
Speaker 2: of people on our app, you know, get billions of
34:20
Speaker 2: people reading our books and teaching people how to help
34:25
Speaker 2: themselves immediately and long term.
34:29
Speaker 1: When you talk to therapists, when you're on podcasts such
34:34
Speaker 1: as this, what do you want to therapists and coaches
34:37
Speaker 1: out there who are listening to this, What do you
34:39
Speaker 1: want them to get to hear? What do they need
34:41
Speaker 1: to hear well?
34:42
Speaker 2: Number one, do the work on yourself, do the deep
34:48
Speaker 2: inner healing, do the trauma to enlightenment, the enlightened work.
34:52
Speaker 2: Do the work on yourself so that you're healthy. Because
34:56
Speaker 2: all therapists I talk, I train all the time. You
35:01
Speaker 2: can get burned out. It can be really difficult. You're
35:04
Speaker 2: taking on a lot.
35:05
Speaker 3: You care.
35:06
Speaker 2: That's why you're in the profession. You want to help people,
35:09
Speaker 2: so it's so important. For example, our sessions are oftentimes
35:14
Speaker 2: anywhere from two to eight hours when we work with
35:17
Speaker 2: people one on one, So we take a day off
35:20
Speaker 2: before to prepare ourselves, get ready, get healthy, do our
35:24
Speaker 2: own work.
35:25
Speaker 3: We take a day off afterwards.
35:27
Speaker 2: So every one day session is three days of work,
35:31
Speaker 2: so there's before, during, and after, so self care, doing
35:35
Speaker 2: the work, the conscious, subconscious, unconscious, all the things we've
35:39
Speaker 2: been talking about. Therapists will really serve themselves well to
35:44
Speaker 2: do this for themselves, their family, and it'll work for
35:47
Speaker 2: their clients, patients, community that they're helping, and then it'll
35:52
Speaker 2: be much more trustworthy and much more real, much more
35:56
Speaker 2: true when they're teaching their clients, patients, community, men members
36:00
Speaker 2: how to do it for themselves because they're living it.
36:04
Speaker 2: They're practicing what they teach, and then it's much more
36:07
Speaker 2: believable and trustworthy for the person that they're helping and
36:11
Speaker 2: the work flows a lot better. And doctor Erickson, doctor
36:16
Speaker 2: FLETTI usues them examples. They live the same approach that
36:19
Speaker 2: I do. We all approach people the same. Now we're
36:23
Speaker 2: in an app. Now we've been doing groups. It's much
36:25
Speaker 2: bigger than one on one. You know, I'm only seeing
36:28
Speaker 2: five people at a time, but you know the app
36:30
Speaker 2: is getting to you know, millions of people. So our
36:33
Speaker 2: goal now is to make it available to everybody. And
36:38
Speaker 2: that's our mission at this point, because we know what works,
36:43
Speaker 2: and we know we have to individualize it, and we've
36:46
Speaker 2: been able to put it into a digital form. We've
36:48
Speaker 2: added AI of course you know how we can help
36:51
Speaker 2: people so that it's available twenty four seven. You don't
36:53
Speaker 2: have to reach any of us. You can just go
36:56
Speaker 2: to it and it's all custom version to fit Guy,
36:59
Speaker 2: Brian and whoever we are. And therapists need this as
37:04
Speaker 2: much as the clients of patients that we're all working with.
37:08
Speaker 1: Beautifully, beautifully said Brandon. How do people learn more about
37:12
Speaker 1: you and everything that's going on?
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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you can reach me.
37:16
Speaker 2: I post videos and all kinds of posts every day
37:21
Speaker 2: on LinkedIn, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, so you can find
37:26
Speaker 2: me there at doctor Alman. You can go to doctor
37:29
Speaker 2: Brianolman dot com, you go to Amazon, you can Google me,
37:34
Speaker 2: and if anybody wants a deep dive into connecting with
37:39
Speaker 2: their unconscious mind, I created a special technique for a
37:45
Speaker 2: guy and his community before the podcast because I saw
37:49
Speaker 2: how generous guy is in his podcast, and I said, Okay,
37:52
Speaker 2: how can I match that generosity A technique a deep
37:57
Speaker 2: dive into the unconscious that if you connect me on
38:00
Speaker 2: social media or by email, you can find me in
38:04
Speaker 2: Google and mention this podcast that we are in right now.
38:10
Speaker 2: I will send you the link with the technique and
38:14
Speaker 2: all you'll have to do is press click and you'll
38:17
Speaker 2: get that connection, that deep dive into that ability how
38:23
Speaker 2: to really live with the collaboration and self trust of
38:29
Speaker 2: your unconscious mind.
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Speaker 1: Love it, Brian, Thank you so much, super inspiring, super passionate.
38:36
Speaker 1: I can feel it, and I love it. I'd love
38:39
Speaker 1: to have you back at a liter date.
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Speaker 3: I will be there. I love being with you.
38:43
Speaker 2: I had a great feeling about it, and it turned
38:45
Speaker 2: out even better than I thought.
38:47
Speaker 1: I appreciate that thanky.
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Speaker 3: Thank you guys,