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Murder In Moscow: The Goncalves Family And Their Comments After The Arrest · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: And welcome back to the program. Ever since this horrendous
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  Speaker 1: ordeal first started, Kaylee Gonsalves' dad, Steve Gonsalves, has been
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  Speaker 1: very vocal about what happened and about the investigation overall.
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  Speaker 1: And he went so far as to hire a lawyer
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  Speaker 1: to handle the communications between him and the investigators. There's
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  Speaker 1: no doubt that at times it was rather contentious. Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Gonsalves making statements in public and obviously he was grieving
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  Speaker 1: and wanted answers. But there were some out there who
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  Speaker 1: wanted to deride him, wanted to make fun of him
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  Speaker 1: and act like he was going to destroy the chances
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  Speaker 1: of ever arresting somebody in this case. And I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was Looney Tunes then and I think it's Looney
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  Speaker 1: Tunes now. None of us know how we're going to
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  Speaker 1: react if our daughter is killed. Never mind in a
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  Speaker 1: sensationalized story such as this. Then you go, what, 47
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  Speaker 1: days without any answers, no suspect? And for me and
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  Speaker 1: you sitting here on the sidelines, it's one thing for
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  Speaker 1: us to say, hey, look, you got to have some patience.
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  Speaker 1: It's a whole nother thing when your daughter's not at
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  Speaker 1: the dinner table on Thanksgiving. I'd like to see how
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  Speaker 1: you react if it was your daughter. So that's why
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't so hard on Mr. Gonsalves and understanding about
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  Speaker 1: him speaking out in public the way he did. The
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  Speaker 1: man wanted answers. He was frustrated. He was sad. He
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  Speaker 1: was grieving. And he wanted to know who was responsible
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  Speaker 1: for the murder of his daughter. Well, according to the authorities,
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  Speaker 1: now him and his family, they know who did it.
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  Speaker 1: And Mr. Gonsalves and his wife, Christy, they gave an
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  Speaker 1: interview to Fox News. So today, we're going to dive
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  Speaker 1: into that interview, and we're going to see what Steve
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  Speaker 1: and Christy Gonsalves had to say about the arrest. This
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  Speaker 1: article was published by Fox News. Headline, Parents of Idaho
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  Speaker 1: Murder Victim Speak Out After Arrest of Koberger. We Feel
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  Speaker 1: Lucky Knowing We Have Somebody. This article was authored by
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Carnahan. Steve and Christy Gonsalves, the parents of murdered
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  Speaker 1: Idaho student Kaylee, said they feel lucky knowing their daughter's
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  Speaker 1: alleged murderer is behind bars nearly seven weeks after her
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  Speaker 1: death Tuesday on Hannity. And I can only imagine what
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  Speaker 1: a relief it must be to think that the person
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  Speaker 1: who is responsible is behind bars. Now, of course, I'd
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  Speaker 1: have the feeling in the back of my mind, because
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  Speaker 1: I just have anxiety anyway, that it wasn't the right
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  Speaker 1: person or what if he gets off. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: that Mr. Gonsalves and his wife, Christy, are going through
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  Speaker 1: a whole range of emotions right now. And I won't
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  Speaker 1: even begin to project what they're feeling because none of
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  Speaker 1: us can even imagine it. Never mind, try and walk
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  Speaker 1: a day in their shoes. Nothing feels worse than having
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  Speaker 1: nobody and just nothing but doubt. In seven weeks of that,
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  Speaker 1: or close to seven weeks of that, that was a
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  Speaker 1: tremendous amount of pressure on us, Steve Gonsalves said, and
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  Speaker 1: you know the holidays added to it. And this sick bastard,
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  Speaker 1: if he is the one who did it, chose to
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  Speaker 1: do it around the holidays for maximum impact. Keep that
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  Speaker 1: in mind. You know, your children look for you to
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  Speaker 1: tell them what's going to happen and how things are
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  Speaker 1: going to go. And you can't. You can't control anything.
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  Speaker 1: And you just sit back and you just wait. And
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  Speaker 1: it's very hard to get over. And it's that feeling
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  Speaker 1: of helplessness, right? Being a dad, you want to protect
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  Speaker 1: your child. You want to help. You want to be
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  Speaker 1: there to step in and make sure nothing happens to them.
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  Speaker 1: And when you're not able to do that, you feel helpless.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how Mr. Gonsalves felt going through this because
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  Speaker 1: there was nothing he could really do to affect the outcome.
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  Speaker 1: When my girlfriend was diagnosed with breast cancer, I felt
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  Speaker 1: the same way. Like I wanted to be more active.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to help more. I wanted to be involved,
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  Speaker 1: but you can only do so much. And Mr. Gonsalves,
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  Speaker 1: that's what he ran into as well. He wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do more. He wanted to find the person himself, but
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  Speaker 1: obviously that's not in his power. So he was frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: And you add to that all of the grief and
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  Speaker 1: all of the just emotions that are running through him.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, he's going to say some things out
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  Speaker 1: in public and lash out at the investigators because the
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  Speaker 1: person responsible wasn't around to lash out at. Now that
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  Speaker 1: they have a suspect, however, well, as the trial moves forward,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure Mr. Gonsalves is going to focus that rage
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  Speaker 1: and that anger. Kaylee Gonsalves, Madison Mogan, Ethan Chapin, and
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  Speaker 1: Zanna Kernodle were stabbed to death at an off-campus home
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  Speaker 1: on November 13th. The Moscow Police Department offered few updates
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  Speaker 1: on the investigation at times, causing critics to question if
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  Speaker 1: the small-town force could handle the case. I certainly was
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  Speaker 1: one of the people wondering if they were going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to handle it. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: I was also aware that they were our best chance
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  Speaker 1: of solving this. And whenever you have a small town
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  Speaker 1: police force that is dealing with something like this, you
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  Speaker 1: have to have a few questions, right? It's a show
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  Speaker 1: me type of industry. And what I mean by that
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  Speaker 1: is results. That means arrests. That means prosecutions. That means convictions.
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  Speaker 1: And up until this point, we weren't sure if they
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  Speaker 1: were going to be able to bring this home. But
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  Speaker 1: now that they have, or at least they think they have,
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  Speaker 1: they certainly should be given a tip of the hat.
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  Speaker 1: Because when all was said and done and all the
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  Speaker 1: chips were pushed into the center of the table, they
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  Speaker 1: got the guy that they said is responsible for this.
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  Speaker 1: Now getting the conviction, that's the next chapter. But the
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  Speaker 1: police work here, at least as of now, seems to
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  Speaker 1: be solid. Steve Gonsalves, who was critical at times of
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  Speaker 1: how the case was progressing, said investigators did a tremendous job.
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  Speaker 1: And look again, Mr. Gonsalves, he understands what's at stake
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  Speaker 1: here and he just wanted somebody to be caught. And
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  Speaker 1: he felt that if he pressured the investigators, if he
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  Speaker 1: kept them on their toes, that that would create some accountability.
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  Speaker 1: And in the end, Everybody wanted the same thing, and
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  Speaker 1: that's somebody to be captured here, somebody to be brought
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  Speaker 1: to justice for these horrific, grisly murders. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's never fast enough for a father. You're impatient, and
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  Speaker 1: you want to know everything right then and there. But
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  Speaker 1: I feel good. I feel like they've done a tremendous job,
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  Speaker 1: he added. I know that they've been working hard. We
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  Speaker 1: just had a lot of holidays. These guys were working
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  Speaker 1: out of town. I really appreciate all the effort that
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  Speaker 1: they gave. I mean, there were times where I was
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  Speaker 1: tough on them, but I know these are strong men
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  Speaker 1: and women, and I know they can handle just a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of pushback, and we are where we want
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  Speaker 1: to be, and they put us there. So that's a
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  Speaker 1: very noble thing for Mr. Gonsalves to do, to come
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  Speaker 1: out here and, you know, say, hey, look, I know
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  Speaker 1: I was tough on them, but they did a tremendous job.
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  Speaker 1: And for the investigators, the police, they can hold their
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  Speaker 1: heads up high as well because they did do a
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  Speaker 1: good job here. Whenever you go and get somebody and
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  Speaker 1: bring them into custody and do your part of it, well,
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  Speaker 1: now it's up to the prosecution to make sure they
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  Speaker 1: slam it home. Host Sean Hannity asked what the appropriate
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  Speaker 1: justice would be in the case. Well, considering that this
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  Speaker 1: person went in there that night with the intent to
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  Speaker 1: kill and showed no mercy, unprovoked, and killed our daughter,
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  Speaker 1: her best friend, and their two friends, we are glad
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  Speaker 1: we live in the state of Idaho with the death penalty,
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  Speaker 1: Christy Gonsalves said. Koberger waived extradition and will be brought
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  Speaker 1: to Moscow, Idaho to face charges. So Idaho definitely is
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  Speaker 1: a death penalty state. Will they go for the death
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  Speaker 1: penalty here? Will they get it? I don't know. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have to see how everything shakes out. But if I
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  Speaker 1: was the prosecutor, I'd be going for the death penalty
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  Speaker 1: here if my case was strong and I knew without
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  Speaker 1: a shadow of a doubt that I had my guy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if there was ever an instant where the
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  Speaker 1: death penalty should come into play, shouldn't it come into
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  Speaker 1: play when you murder four people? You're obviously a danger
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  Speaker 1: to the rest of us. You're never going to be rehabilitated.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the point? Keep you in prison, pay for you,
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  Speaker 1: let you write letters and have a fan club and
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  Speaker 1: all the rest of it? I'll pass on all of that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm usually not a fan of the death penalty in
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  Speaker 1: most instances because I don't think the state should have
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  Speaker 1: the power to kill citizens. But in certain instances such
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  Speaker 1: as this, There certainly is a discussion to be had
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  Speaker 1: about there being a death penalty because people like this,
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  Speaker 1: they're never going to change. This man went in there,
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  Speaker 1: according to the authorities, in a premeditated manner with the
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  Speaker 1: idea and the intent to murder these four kids while
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  Speaker 1: they were in their bed. If that's not grounds for
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  Speaker 1: the death penalty, I don't know what would be. So
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  Speaker 1: if this doesn't go to the death penalty, why even
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  Speaker 1: have it in the state, right? What could be more grisly?
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  Speaker 1: What could be more horrendous than what we witnessed in Moscow?
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  Speaker 1: Because that is some of the most gruesome stuff you're
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  Speaker 1: ever going to see. Four people in bed sleeping and
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  Speaker 1: someone coming in and murdering them like that. That is
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  Speaker 1: just beyond the pale. That isn't, you know, a robbery
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  Speaker 1: gone wrong. That isn't I had an altercation with you
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  Speaker 1: in the street. That is I sat around and I
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  Speaker 1: cooked up this plot. And then not only that, I
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  Speaker 1: acted on all of my sick, disgusting thoughts that I premeditated.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what the authorities are saying. Brian Koberger did.
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  Speaker 1: So if that is the case and they get the conviction,
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  Speaker 1: I would hope that they go after the death penalty
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  Speaker 1: as well, because somebody like this obviously deserves the death
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  Speaker 1: penalty if they're guilty of these crimes. So it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be interesting to see which way Thompson goes and
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  Speaker 1: see what the other families have to say, because that
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  Speaker 1: does play into it. They'll ask the victim's families, do
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  Speaker 1: you think they should be put to death? Ask them
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  Speaker 1: for their input. And while it's not the final decision maker,
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  Speaker 1: it certainly does go into the decision making process being
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  Speaker 1: put together by the state and the prosecutor. So that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be an interesting facet of this, folks, as
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  Speaker 1: we move forward. Either way, Mr. Gonsalves and his wife
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  Speaker 1: going on the record with Hannity and talking about the case,
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  Speaker 1: the investigation, and now the arrest of Brian Koberger. All right, folks,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this one. If you'd
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