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INTERVIEW: Robin Evans On Educating Women To Use Firearms And Self Defense With "Chicks With Triggers" · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Warning everybody, it's dj n V Charlemagne the gud We
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  Speaker 2: are the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, Founder.
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  Speaker 2: And CEO of Chicks with Triggers Firearms Academy, Robin Evans.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome, Robin.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing.
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing good?
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  Speaker 1: How are you good? Good?
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  Speaker 3: Good?
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  Speaker 1: Did they patch you down before you got here today?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 4: And thankfully you know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good thing a bad thing,
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  Speaker 1: in safe or not. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Surprise, surprise, Tell the people what Chicks with Triggers isis.
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  Speaker 5: With Triggers is a self defense company that I started
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  Speaker 5: down in Greenville, South Carolina. We deal primarily with firearms,
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  Speaker 5: and we teach women how to use guns. We teach
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  Speaker 5: women how to get certified to get pistol permits. We
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  Speaker 5: teach women self defense. We teach women how to use knives, basically,
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  Speaker 5: how to stay alive.
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  Speaker 1: No, I agree with it one thousand percent.
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  Speaker 2: Right before you walk and I was telling Charlemagne that
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  Speaker 2: my wife carries Okay, my assistant carries I carry okay,
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  Speaker 2: and my daughter who's twenty one, I have her taken
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  Speaker 2: the training class right now, so she can carry.
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  Speaker 3: So they know how to use.
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  Speaker 1: Though we go to range very often, okay, very often.
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  Speaker 3: We do.
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  Speaker 5: But are you are y'all good because a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people be at the range and they be and they
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  Speaker 5: looking crazy.
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  Speaker 2: They do they don't, they don't use. But you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm not, I'm not afraid to ask for help.
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  Speaker 2: My dad is a retired police officer, so he goes
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  Speaker 2: with me sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, y'all got that in coom.
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  Speaker 2: It shows how to aim and in this, that and
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  Speaker 2: the other, and it's very important. One thing my dad
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  Speaker 2: would would always tell me guns weren't a big thing
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  Speaker 2: in my house because I guess he was always open
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  Speaker 2: to sharing information about firearms, so it was never a
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  Speaker 2: thing when when I see my dad's going like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, it was dad's fire arms.
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  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, and a lot of black like a lot of
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  Speaker 5: black households, guns are not talked about, like you can't
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  Speaker 5: have them and stuff like that. But in the like
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  Speaker 5: in my in my experience in the white community is
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  Speaker 5: all the kid we started five years old and down
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  Speaker 5: in South Carolina, at five years old, they have the
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  Speaker 5: shooting camps and you go to the shooting camp and
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  Speaker 5: then it's all summer. Then we go to the range.
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  Speaker 5: But the black kids aren't in that yet, correct, And
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  Speaker 5: so the black and brown kids, I'm trying to get
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  Speaker 5: them into it too, because at some point, like you said,
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  Speaker 5: you got to learn about it, because if not, then
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  Speaker 5: the streets are gonna teach you about it. So if
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  Speaker 5: either your parents are gonna teach you or the internet's
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  Speaker 5: gonna teach you, and we can't have that happen.
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  Speaker 2: The scariest thing about firearms and especially all the laws
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  Speaker 2: is the law's changed so much, right, and that is
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  Speaker 2: the biggest thing.
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  Speaker 4: No one tells you about it.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody tells research.
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  Speaker 2: It, and that is the biggest fear I have with
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  Speaker 2: my daughter carrying a firearm, or my wife carrying a firemarm,
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  Speaker 2: or even myself because the law something will change over
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  Speaker 2: night and you don't know, and you would drive you
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  Speaker 2: with your firearm and then you get locked up and
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  Speaker 2: there's no way around it.
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  Speaker 1: That is the scariest thing. So what do you see as.
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  Speaker 2: Problems when you face with trying to teach all these
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  Speaker 2: not only men, but people of color about firearms.
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  Speaker 5: So I make sure that because everybody says they got
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  Speaker 5: a gun, but nobody knows how to use it, nobody
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  Speaker 5: knows the laws associated with it. And I always say,
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  Speaker 5: ignorance of the law is not an excuse, right, They
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  Speaker 5: still lock you up regardless.
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  Speaker 4: So I make sure that I keep everybody updated.
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  Speaker 5: As soon as something changes, it's on my social media,
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  Speaker 5: so people know, hey, this is changing, we need to
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  Speaker 5: do this, we need to do that. I tell people
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  Speaker 5: all the time how to carry in their cars. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: the state of South Carolina, we don't need a permit
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  Speaker 5: to have a gun, Like you need a permit to
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  Speaker 5: lead the state, but you don't need a permit in
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  Speaker 5: the state.
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  Speaker 4: Of South Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: Newsey, New York you do.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, y'all not gun friendly at all. But
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  Speaker 4: we're working on that.
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  Speaker 1: Jersey Jersey, but.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jersey's a lot better. But we're working on New York.
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  Speaker 5: But so I try to keep I of try to
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  Speaker 5: keep them up to date with how to do stuff,
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  Speaker 5: because unfortunately, we don't get the black and brown communities
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  Speaker 5: don't get the benefit of the doubt like other communities, right,
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  Speaker 5: and as soon as something happens with us, that's a
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  Speaker 5: felony where and other you know, in other cultures, that's
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  Speaker 5: maybe an intervention program of some sort. So I try
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  Speaker 5: to keep everybody up to date, because if not, if
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  Speaker 5: I don't tell you, they're not gonna look it up.
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  Speaker 4: And the police, damn sure ain't gonna tell you. And
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  Speaker 4: now you screw it up.
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  Speaker 3: You know, South Carolina has been in the top ten
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  Speaker 3: states of women murdered by men for the last twenty
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  Speaker 3: seven years. You know, many of those years they were
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  Speaker 3: number one on the list. And I've heard you say
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  Speaker 3: that violence against women is a public health issue.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, why you consider it.
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  Speaker 5: That, because it's it's I feel like women are the
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  Speaker 5: especially black women, are the most unprotected in this whole
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  Speaker 5: entire country. In South Carolina. Domestic violence is a joke.
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  Speaker 5: It really is a joke. I've had women that have
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  Speaker 5: come to me like they've been beat and face broken,
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  Speaker 5: all kinds of stuff, and the guy got a thousand
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  Speaker 5: dollars fine and was sent home.
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  Speaker 4: It's not taken seriously. And so that's that's where ICON
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  Speaker 4: come in.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm trying to teach women how to defend themselves,
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  Speaker 5: like we don't need a man to defend us, because
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  Speaker 5: clearly y'all not doing it right.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of men in the communities.
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  Speaker 5: That talk about protecting black women, protecting women, protecting women,
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  Speaker 5: and then they don't do anything. They're actually the ones
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  Speaker 5: hurting us. And so I'm trying to teach women that
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  Speaker 5: you don't need anybody. We don't need the cops, we
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  Speaker 5: don't need anybody. All we need is a gun and
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  Speaker 5: learn how to use it and we can be our
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  Speaker 5: own first respond And.
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  Speaker 3: Pisces you off when you see these videos of like
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  Speaker 3: women being assaulted by men and the men just standing around.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they just they just recorded and they don't
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  Speaker 4: do anything.
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  Speaker 5: And then everybody's in the comments talking about what they
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  Speaker 5: should have done, but actually no one did anything. But
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  Speaker 5: on the flip side of that, right on, there's a
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  Speaker 5: there's a there's a double edged store because on the
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  Speaker 5: flip side, then the government will come and now you're
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  Speaker 5: in jail because you were trying to help somebody else.
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  Speaker 5: So it's kind of like a flip side of what
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  Speaker 5: you want to do because you thought you was helping
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  Speaker 5: and now you're in the jam.
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  Speaker 2: If a woman is listening right now and they're interested
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  Speaker 2: in maybe a class, and if they're not from South
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  Speaker 2: Carolina and they're from it, what first of all, what
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  Speaker 2: gun would you advise for a woman's person.
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  Speaker 5: Nope, because I believe that everybody should pick out that gun.
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  Speaker 5: So here's the thing about guns. Guns are non refundable, right,
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  Speaker 5: so you have to try them before you buy them.
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  Speaker 5: What works for me may not work for him, may
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  Speaker 5: not work for your your daughter, your wife, whoever. So
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  Speaker 5: I say that a lot of people go towards small guns,
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  Speaker 5: and they'll say, oh, I want to buy a small
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  Speaker 5: gun because if it's in my purse, blose block.
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  Speaker 4: Smaller guns are harder to shoot.
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  Speaker 1: Smaller guns.
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  Speaker 4: We need bigger guns. We can handle bigger guns.
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  Speaker 5: But a lot of women don't believe that they can
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  Speaker 5: because when they go into these rangers, when they go
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  Speaker 5: into these gun stores, all of them are ran by men,
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  Speaker 5: and the men take them to the purple guns and
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  Speaker 5: the pink guns and the little the little piece of
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  Speaker 5: shit guns, and they don't matter. That's exactly where they
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  Speaker 5: take them. And we can handle better than that. So
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  Speaker 5: what I carry is a Smith and Wesson shield. Plus
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  Speaker 5: I carry that it's a nine millimeter, but I mean
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  Speaker 5: I could bust your ass, but a three eighty, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean, So it doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like we it has to fit the person.
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  Speaker 4: We have to try it out.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all need to know, Robin's not a first generation shooters.
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  Speaker 3: You come from a long line of ASKI because they
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  Speaker 3: shooters just want to put that up.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask.
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  Speaker 2: You know a lot of people feel like they need
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  Speaker 2: a big gun. They need a forty caliber forty five?
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  Speaker 2: Can you tell the reason why, Like I carry nine
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  Speaker 2: milimeters And the reason i carry nine milimeter two is
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  Speaker 2: if I'm in the house and I gotta shoot somebody
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  Speaker 2: in the house, I don't want it to go through
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  Speaker 2: the wall and.
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  Speaker 5: I need a little deuce in your boot, which, well,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, So now milimeter is very popular, right,
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  Speaker 5: but then you I mean, people get killed with twenty twos.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I have some women that twenty two is
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  Speaker 4: where they are right now.
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  Speaker 2: He used to laugh at me, right because back in
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  Speaker 2: New York you could not you know, you couldn't carry
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  Speaker 2: a gun. But in New York was very, very deadly,
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  Speaker 2: very very a lot of crime as growing up as
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  Speaker 2: a teen, right, So we.
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  Speaker 1: Used to go to the club. We used to I
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  Speaker 1: used to carry like a little two.
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  Speaker 3: Two in his manolo blonics my shoe because that would
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  Speaker 3: be the only way that I can walk around with
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  Speaker 3: the gun.
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  Speaker 2: And they made fun of me, but they don't know
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  Speaker 2: that the two two could do. Damn is like anything else.
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  Speaker 4: Stand in front of it. I bet you he won't
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  Speaker 4: stand in front.
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  Speaker 3: I bet you couldn't get it out of his boots.
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  Speaker 4: I can't.
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  Speaker 5: So I think that the gun has to fit the
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  Speaker 5: person and we won't know until we try. So like
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  Speaker 5: from my company, I offer a service called Try before
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  Speaker 5: you Buy, where I bring eight to ten one of
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  Speaker 5: the most popular concealed carry guns and we sit there
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  Speaker 5: one on one and we try every single one. So
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  Speaker 5: that way, when a woman goes to the gun store,
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  Speaker 5: they are confident in what they came to buy, because
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  Speaker 5: if not, they're gonna try to talk you into this
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  Speaker 5: little pink.
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  Speaker 4: Gun over here.
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  Speaker 5: So when they walk in they say, no, I want
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  Speaker 5: the glock forty three X, No, I want the glock nineteen.
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  Speaker 5: They are very aware of where we are because we
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  Speaker 5: already did this process.
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  Speaker 2: I like the the glock is the shorthanded glock is good,
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  Speaker 2: easy to to nobody can see it when you put
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  Speaker 2: a shirt over it. But I noticed what a lot
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  Speaker 2: of women is. It's hard to conceal that gun.
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  Speaker 5: So but women have to all right, yeah, ready, so
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  Speaker 5: women have to use what you got, right, So women
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  Speaker 5: can use their their breasts to conceal everything like that.
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  Speaker 5: We have different ways of doing it. We just can't
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  Speaker 5: do it like guys because we don't wear what guys wear.
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  Speaker 5: But there are different ways to conceal that. You would
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  Speaker 5: have no idea that there was a gun.
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  Speaker 1: On this woman?
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  Speaker 3: Do you like conceal or open carrier better? Like? What
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  Speaker 3: do you think makes.
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  Speaker 4: You I don't believe it. I believe that your gun
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  Speaker 4: should be your surprise.
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  Speaker 5: No one should know that it's on you until it's
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  Speaker 5: actually time to pull it out and get to work.
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  Speaker 5: I don't believe that we should just be walking around
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  Speaker 5: with guns.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the law is that that let me get
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  Speaker 2: your opinion on it. Right, So in certain malls right right,
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  Speaker 2: they don't allow you to have a gun in the store,
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  Speaker 2: right right? What do you think about, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: malls not allowing you to carry your weapon or certain
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  Speaker 2: areas where you wouldn't need it, right, because yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: might not eat any more. But then when I got
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  Speaker 2: to walk to my car, and when it's dark, it's
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  Speaker 2: hell outside and I got to get to my car
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  Speaker 2: and try to put my key or open the door,
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  Speaker 2: That's when somebody's gonna get me.
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  Speaker 1: That's when somebody's gonna try.
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  Speaker 3: To ride me.
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  Speaker 4: I believe be able to have them in there. Especially.
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  Speaker 5: I believe that we should, like forget the parking lot,
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  Speaker 5: we need it in the mall. The mall be having
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  Speaker 5: all kinds of crazy stuff's going on. Their shooting is
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  Speaker 5: going on. You don't know who's in there, all telling
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  Speaker 5: people with mental health issues. We don't know what we're
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  Speaker 5: gonna run into. So I believe that we should have
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  Speaker 5: it in the mall. I believe we should have it
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  Speaker 5: in the movie theater. I believe we should have it
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  Speaker 5: everywhere because and I went to the movies the other
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  Speaker 5: day and I couldn't even feel comfortable because it said
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  Speaker 5: like Noca sillaboard. So I left my gun in the car. Right,
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  Speaker 5: I'm law abiding, and so I left my gun in
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  Speaker 5: the car. And the whole entire time, I kept thinking,
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  Speaker 5: if something happens right now, we're screwed, Like if somebody
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  Speaker 5: came in here like the guy who did the Batman movie,
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  Speaker 5: like we are screwed. I was looking for exits there
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  Speaker 5: was only one way in, one way out, and I said,
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  Speaker 5: I can't even enjoy the movie.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I saw you say one in three women
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  Speaker 3: in the US will experience domestic dating violence in their lifetime.
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  Speaker 3: So would you encourage women to take guns on a
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  Speaker 3: first date?
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  Speaker 4: Yes? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: You never know who you're meeting up with, especially these
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  Speaker 5: dating apps and stuff like that. You never know who
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  Speaker 5: this person really is. There's been a lot of like
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  Speaker 5: serial rapists connected to dating apps and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 5: So I would highly recommend that a woman, but not
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  Speaker 5: just have a gun, know how to use the gun.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of people have guns to flex with and
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  Speaker 5: they're not knowledgeable about the actual gun. So I believe, yes,
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  Speaker 5: you should have a gun on every single date. On
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  Speaker 5: a fifty fourth date, there should still be a gun.
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  Speaker 3: How would you encourage women to get are just people
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  Speaker 3: in general to get over their fear of fire?
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  Speaker 4: See, that's where I believe the instructor.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like, whoever you team up with, that's where
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  Speaker 5: that comes into play. Because if you team up with
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  Speaker 5: somebody who's macho macho and think we about to join
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  Speaker 5: the military tomorrow, then you get turned off by because
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  Speaker 5: you're already intimidated. So I believe that's where you have
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  Speaker 5: to find an instructor that you vibe with. Right, Like, So,
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  Speaker 5: my whole business is a vibe Like we're a vibe
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  Speaker 5: I have a vibe check. You can't come unless you
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  Speaker 5: pass the vibe check. I've turned down people because they
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  Speaker 5: vibes don't match my vibe check.
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  Speaker 4: Ratchet yet educational, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: So like but hoursness, but so yeah, the vibe check.
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  Speaker 5: I've had people come and they're here for the wrong reasons. Right,
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  Speaker 5: They're here because they are malicious. They're here for not
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  Speaker 5: They don't want to learn how to protect themselves. They
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  Speaker 5: want to learn how to do damage to something else
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  Speaker 5: because they got something else going on. I'm not here
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  Speaker 5: for that. I'm here to teach women how to defend
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  Speaker 5: themselves against threats that may come your way.
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  Speaker 1: I think reps too. I think the more you do it,
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  Speaker 1: the more you get used to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the first first time anybody goes into range and
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  Speaker 2: you shoot that one time and it's loud, and it also.
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  Speaker 5: Depends on the gun that you shoot. For the first time,
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  Speaker 5: I start everybody off for twenty two. It's as low
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  Speaker 5: as we can go. I start everybody off there and
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  Speaker 5: is a confidence building. They say, oh, this wasn't as
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  Speaker 5: bad as I thought it was going to be. And
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  Speaker 5: then next thing you know, we move up to a
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  Speaker 5: three eighty right, so it goes twenty two three eighty
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  Speaker 5: nine millimeters and we slowly work our way up that ladder.
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  Speaker 5: And then when they're next, next thing you know, they
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  Speaker 5: do have a forty or forty five because they we
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  Speaker 5: took that process together.
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  Speaker 1: I do believe when somebody you is that firearm, it
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  Speaker 1: should be to kill.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I believe that. Don't pull it out if you
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  Speaker 4: ain't serious.
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  Speaker 2: About it, okay, because you know a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: and I can tell a lot of these people that
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  Speaker 2: don't have firearms. They always say, well you can injure
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  Speaker 2: somebody shoot them in a leg.
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  Speaker 5: But see, the the thing about it is right when
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  Speaker 5: you when you pull out your firearm to use it,
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  Speaker 5: you are trying to truly stop somebody, right, So if
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  Speaker 5: you shoot them at other places, the adrenaline can keep
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  Speaker 5: them going through things like that. So I teach women
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  Speaker 5: about organs. I teach them about like placement, because what
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  Speaker 5: we're trying to do is drop the blood pressure. If
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  Speaker 5: you drop the blood pressure, you drop the person. And
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  Speaker 5: so that's what we're trying to do. So we're trying
• 11:33
  Speaker 5: to hit you in organs every single time. Where can
• 11:35
  Speaker 5: we hit? We only got one shot. We got to
• 11:37
  Speaker 5: make it work. The arm ain't it hold on?
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: That sounds it sinister? You said, drop the blood pressure? Yes, samn.
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: So you're going to triggers.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: So you you teach all your people how to just
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: shoot to kill. Yes, okay, but I deal with.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: A law enforcement shoot the kill when you when you
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: pull your firemont, it's to kill.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: It's not too.
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: That's what they don't want to That's what you know
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: a lot of activists don't.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: But what she said, when that adrenaline is running and
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: somebody's coming towards you, you want to make sure you
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: eliminate the threat.
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: The threat right, and they still keep coming.
• 12:09
  Speaker 5: So I mean that's what I trained women to do.
• 12:11
  Speaker 5: Like I said, I deal with a lot of domestic
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: violence victims like stuff. You you couldn't even believe it
• 12:15
  Speaker 5: if I told you right now. So I've had women
• 12:17
  Speaker 5: had to use their firearms to defend themselves. And that's
• 12:20
  Speaker 5: how we train. We train the way it's going to be.
• 12:22
  Speaker 5: We're not training for your arm. We're training to put
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: you down.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: What change the concentration on victims of domestic violence solely
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: or just women in general.
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: It's women in general. It's women in general.
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: However, once I started, all the domestic violence victims started coming,
• 12:36
  Speaker 5: and they all like, they didn't feel comfortable taking the
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: men's classes. They didn't feel comfortable sitting in the classes
• 12:40
  Speaker 5: with all the men. So they started finding chicks with triggers.
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: And then they coming even the like at the local rangers.
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: They'll say, women never talk to us like they talk
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: to you, but it's a different vibe, you know what
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: I mean. So they come to me and they say, listen,
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: this man has stalked me and he's trying to kill me.
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: I've had that a million times, you know. This man
• 12:53
  Speaker 5: have had me in the hospital and I was on
• 12:54
  Speaker 5: a feeding tube.
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: Of three months. I've had that a million times.
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: Or he's getting out of prison and he said, like
• 12:58
  Speaker 5: he already called and said he's coming, so we got
• 13:00
  Speaker 5: to get ready.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: The only thing I don't like about a lot of
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: states where they allow you to have a firearm at
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: a young age or twenty one, you know, get only
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: a permit or don't don't need a license?
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: Is I feel like everybody should have to take a class, right?
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: Now, okay, so I do agree with that. I believe
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: that you have to prove, you should prove that you're competence, but.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: Not only that, you should know what the consequences are, right,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: because a lot of people you get a fire on.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: My I remember I got my first farm at twenty one, right,
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: I went to him University at twenty one.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: You could get a gun in Virginia. So I got
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: my first handgun at twenty one.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think I was mentally capable of owning that gun,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: right because at that age anything you mean, you could
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: get into a fight in a club and I'm automatically
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: going to grab my fire on, But you don't necessarily
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: know the consequences of what that means. And I think,
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you have to take a class to
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: get a license, you know, you have to take a
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: class with so many different things, Why shouldn't you have
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: to take one to get a fire off?
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: See, I believe that you. I believe that you should
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: at least have to take a class.
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: I really do believe that I know a lot of
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of organizations that don't believe that, Like,
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: you should just.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: Be able to go buy a gun. Now. Granted, in
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: South Carolina, we could just go buy a gun. You
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: don't need the class.
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: But my direct clients tell and most women they want
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: the class. It's the men that's the problem. Most women
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: want the class of. Okay, I had this gun for
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: however long, but I don't feel comfortable using it because
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: That's about it.
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: So it's just been sitting in the box. And that's
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: where we start from there. I might even have a program.
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: It's called Learn Your Gun. It's for women that already
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: have a gun, and they come in. It's a four
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: week program and every single week they come and we learned.
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: So week one we learn how to break it down,
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: take it apart. What are all the names called? What
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: are all the parts called? Then the second week is malfunctions.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: If it jams, what are we going to do? Like,
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: we can't just excuse me, sir, you know before you
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: rate me, can you give me fifteen minutes? And then
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: the third one we go for accuracy. That's where I
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: talk about the placement and stuff like that. We go
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: to the shooting range and then the fourth one we
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: learn how to clean it and oil it and keep it,
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: keep it functioning properly.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Why do you think most men don't want to go
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: to classes.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: Because men think they know everything that's facts.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: Men think that guns are just like built into them.
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: Like a lot of men do that. A lot of
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: men at the rangers, they don't know. They ask from
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: their elbow, but they out here shooting and giving people advice,
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: and the target look a mess.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: You should be embarrassed.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask what changed, because, you know, a
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago, all my life growing up, you know,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: guns weren't allowed in certain states. But in the last
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: couple of years it's opening up more for different states
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: people are allowed to carry. So what change where people
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: are actually allowed? For instance, I lived in Jersey, I
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: think twenty years or something like that.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Twenty years.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: For eighteen years I tried to get a firearm and
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I couldn't get it. Two years ago the floodgates opened
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: up and I was able to get it one, two three.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: So what changed with the world where people are now
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: allowing people to own firearms.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: I think people got tired.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: I think people got tired, you know, I think that
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: once once COVID hit and everything like that, like people
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: was worried. People saw all the evil in the world.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: And I think people are just tired. They don't want
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: to play victims anymore. I have women that are in
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: their eighties that come and take my class, Hands to God,
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: and they come and take my class and they'll say,
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: you know, we never thought we would be here, but
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: this is where the world is right now. So the
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: world changed, you know what I mean, and where we're
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: going along with it. So I truly believe in guns.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: I believe everybody should have a gun. There's a lot
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: of politicians out there and stuff that don't believe in guns.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: But I'm telling you this right now. All of them
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: have armed security guards. But they're telling you don't need
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: a gun, and we don't need guns in these neighborhoods.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: While they go to their armed houses with armed security
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: guards and their kids are at armed schools.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying. So I believe that everyone.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: Should have a gun until you prove that you're incompetent,
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: and now we got to take it away.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Now do you think everything should be on a national scale?
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Meaning see, another big problem is the rules are in
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: New Jersey are not the same rules that are in Virginia,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: which are not the same rules of South Carolina. For
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: somebody who carries a firearm, it's difficult to go through
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: every rule and regulation for each state, and a lot
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: of people get caught up for that be could they
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: have a legal firearm, but you're in the wrong state.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're in the wrong state.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: So that's where the and I think that's where like
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: the permits and stuff come in. That's where knowing reciprocity.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: So reciprocity is an agreement between states saying like, if
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: you let our residents come over here with guns, we'll
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: let your residents come over here with guns. I think
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: that's part of the education because I always tell people
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: in my classes, you have to follow the rules of
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: the state that you're in, not the state that you're from.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: And that's where people don't research. People don't research when
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: you're driving through these places, how is this gun supposed
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: to be?
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Where is it supposed to be, etc. Etc. And that's
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: where they get jammed up.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Do you notice any men in your life change the
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: way they approach you because they know you got a gun.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I think they always thought I was crazy. I'm just
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: gonna be honest.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: I think they always thought I was crazy, But no,
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: I think that. You know what, though, when I first
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: started Chicks with Triggers, I think that a lot of men,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: especially in South Carolina, they thought it.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Was a joke.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: They thought like because they think down on women. They
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: think women like, what can a girl possibly know about
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: a gun? And I think now that they've seen what
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: we can do is changing because women are not playing anymore,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: women are not being the victims anymore, like we are
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: busting ass out here.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: And I think now it's starting to change now.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I've I've seen your pictures of your classes on Instagram.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: It's hundreds of people there. What was the first spark
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: that made you say, this is what I want to do.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I want to turn what I know into you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: my actual teaching experience.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: So it was, for one, it started during COVID and
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: everything was going crazy and there was kidnapping women from
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Greenville and Charlotte. They was kidnapping women and they were
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: throwing them in white vans and stuff like that. And
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I said, you know what, I'm gonna teach women how
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: to defend themselves, like I wonder if.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: They know how to use the gun.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: And every single girl that I asked, every single friend
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: that I had, they said, my boyfriend knows how to
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: use it, my husband knows how to use it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: But they didn't know how to use it. And I said, well,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: how does that help you if they're not here?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: And then so I thought about it. I played around
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: with it, and then I went to the range. I
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: went to the shooting range because the range was deemed
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: what was it essential?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: The range was essential during COVID in South Carolina.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: And I went to the range and I I'm short, right,
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: so I'm little, and the thing was up too high
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: for me. Put the target up and it was these
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: two white men next to me, and they said, I said,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: can y'all put the target up? Because they raised it
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: and I'm too short And they said okay, and they
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: said when they once they did, they said, be careful,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: don't hurt yourself.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: And I was like, what the fuck? Like, what do
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: you mean? That rubbed me the wrong way?
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: And then after I started shooting, they was quiet, they
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: was looking and they was quiet, and they was quite
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: in their target looked a mess. And on my way
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: out I said, now, y'all be careful and don't hurt
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: your fucking stuff. When I got in the car, I
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: called him. I called my father and I said, I'm
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: a teach woman how to use gun. Because I did
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: that rubbed me the wrong way.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: What do you mean, don't would so you did all
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: head shots after that? Or chess with which I mean.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: You know, I can't reveal my my taxtics, you know
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: what I mean. We don't air. I can't reveal my
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: taxic you know what I mean. It might come back.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: So how can women in your area get their firearm lessons?
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: So I do for the state of South Carolina, North Carolina,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: and Georgia.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: So I do all over.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: They can contact me. And if you're not in South
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: Carolina and you want to come to South Carolina, I'm
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: always open to do groups. I'm always open to travel.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: I'm all over the place. So if they want to
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: come down, we have we have beautiful shooting ranges. It's
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: very it's very welcoming as far as like New York
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: versus South Carolina, like you could damn there get a
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: gun at the welcome center to South Carolina. Right, So
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: I always encourage women to just just reach out. There
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: is no sign up on my on my website because
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: everyone has to pass that VIBE check. So when you
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: fill out an inquiry form, you have to then talk
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: to me and I gotta know what's going on in
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: your life and I gotta know. I gotta feel you
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: out first, and then if I if you pass that,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: then we move on.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: To the next level, which is actually booking the class.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Do you help women in the project? Is getting licensed
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: and purchasing.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I do license them. So I license them
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: through the State of South Carolina.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: So I get there.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: You do the license.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, we'll say to South Carolina, but I'm the
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: one that signs off on it to let the State
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: of South Carolina know, Hey, she does, she can have
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: a license.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: And so I sign them up for the concealed weapons
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: permits and then after that we do we go through
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: the purpose of purchasing the gun, finding the right gun
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: for them.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Going if I have to go with you to buy it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: I have done that before too, because the don't feel
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: comfortable walking into the like Palmetto State Armory.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: They don't feel comfortable. So if I have to go
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: driving my car and go with you. Then we're walking in.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Now you know I'm not licensed South Carolina, which is crazy.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: South Carolina don't have reciprocity.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Right yeah, South Carolina, Illinois, California.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: In Oregon, in the states that I can't carry, Yeah,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: we don't have which is crazy South Carolina.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I will tell you I can't carry. So when I
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: travel South Carolina can't carol for.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: But you can drive through it and go to Florida.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Now I'm playing with y'all, and that legal, I promise
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: you see. South Carolina is a red, red red iron. Nope,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not putting on a plane. I am messing with y'all.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: You can drive the room. But yeah, so I am.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: But a lot of men come to me too, which
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: is crazy. A lot of.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Men come, Like I just had a group of like
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: eight guys last weekend and they all came. But again,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I think it's because it's the vibe and a lot
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: of men of color don't want to go to the
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: white instructors, so they come. Even if it's girls they're
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: coming over here.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Is it possible for you to face liability? Like if
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: a woman you train, you know, uses her gun and
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: like misuses her firearm. Will that come back on you?
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: We signed waivers, okay, but it is I guess I
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: don't see how it's possible because we have a standard
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: list of what we are allowed to teach and what
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: I taught you, So you signed off on that before
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: and that goes to the state, and I keep a copy.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: So there's no there's no question about what this person
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: knows because I taught them this in the class, they
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: took it on the test. You got to do all
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: this stuff. So what you do after you leave is
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: your business. I mean, I taught you to I can.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: I can only do what I can do.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: What success stories have you had, like meaning you know
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: sadly a woman was assaulted and they were able to
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: defend themselves.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I had a woman that a man, a man that
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: she knew, broke into her home and she.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Had to use her firearm and she killed him. Wow.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: And I asked I remember asking her afterwards. I said,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: I said, how do you feel? And the first thing
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: she said to me was she had never said in
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: two years to me, was I finally feel free, Like
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: I'm not scared anymore, I'm not looking over my shoulder anymore.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: I feel free and she said, I never thought I
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: would feel like that because for the past eight years,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: this is how I felt, and so he would stalk
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: her everything. Because it's not even if they stalk you right,
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: it's hard to get a restrained in order and a straightener.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: There is just a piece of paper. The cops are
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: not here to protect you, so we have to do
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: it ourselves. I feel like, especially with domestic violence, it's
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: only gonna end one of two ways. Right Domestic violence
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: is out of control right now, and it's only gonna
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: end one of two ways.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Either men are going to step up and say, you
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: know what, we're not gonna do this anymore.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: We're not gonna beat women anymore, we're not gonna treat
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: them like this anymore, which that hasn't happened yet. Or
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: women are going to step up and they're gonna say,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: you know what, we're gonna be our own first responders,
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: and if anybody poses an imminent threat to me or
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: my family, we're gonna put them down.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: And that's what I teach them how to do.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: How else do you think women can protect themselves while
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: they're waiting on the process to go through the access
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: to fire on knives.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: We teach knives, we teach self defence. There's so many
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: different ways.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: You don't It doesn't always have to be a gun
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: because a lot of places you can't even have a gun.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: So what are we gonna use? So we teach them
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: stick fight and we teach them where to hit. We
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: teach them knives, how to stab, stuff like that, things
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: that you can use around your house. We teach them
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  Speaker 5: to be prepared from every single angle.
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  Speaker 3: Can we talk about the background, because I know people
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  Speaker 3: hear that and they'd be like, what you know about
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  Speaker 3: all of that?
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  Speaker 1: About a lot?
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  Speaker 3: Can you let them know your father's father.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so my father when you're tired, NYPD And he's
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: also brand master of Martin Bis, which is a martial
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  Speaker 5: arts system. So we kick ass around here from every
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: single angle, you know what I mean, every angle You're
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: gonna get your ass well, every single every single way
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  Speaker 5: we can.
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  Speaker 3: Professor Robert Evans, you've heard me talk about it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: written a bottom in my books, Great mentor of mind.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Yes he is that, he is him. Yes, So don't
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  Speaker 3: think Robin don't know what you're doing. I know, we
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking.
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us to say thank you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: so much for having me love it.
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  Speaker 3: The information everything is chickswick.
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  Speaker 5: Trigger So Instagram is Shakeswa Triggers. My website is shackswad
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  Speaker 5: triggers dot com. Facebook is shackswaw Triggers, but Facebook blocks
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  Speaker 5: me a lot for all the guns. So if you
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: want to have a good time, Instagram lets me live
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: my best life.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's Robin Evans. It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning for
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.