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  do one or something but we always do cold openings anyways
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  right Reagan I just got
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  a text from Ed Diehl all right we'll look at that later it's
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  probably not asking to
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  come on about the governor's race uh okay so that'd be good
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  that'd be good
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  SPEAKER_00: conversation actually that is a good idea
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  SPEAKER_00: But let's get to local results, okay?
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  SPEAKER_00: All politics is local.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not really anymore if Donald Trump gets involved in your race.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then if he doesn't, you do get to have local politics.
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  SPEAKER_00: And some of the local politics in Oregon is getting weird.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would say there's a lot of stuff about data centers.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to talk about Benton County.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that was a referendum on the Coffin Butte.
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  Decision There Relating To The Landfill There's A Lot Of Weird
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  Stuff And Local
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  Politics Is Very Much Not Right Left It's A Lot More
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  Environmentalist Versus
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  Builders And NIMBYS Versus New Residents Or Newer Residents
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  Anyway Well And Even
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  SPEAKER_01: That Data Center It's Not Even A Data Center In Lapine It Failed
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  in Lapine it failed like a unanimous decision to go forward
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  with the data center
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  was that at the city council is your dog joining us yes
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  apparently he has a buddy
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  here today so let me go get my clicker for that what's that
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  maybe they should go
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  outside the problem is we live close to a road and he's
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  definitely run across the
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  SPEAKER_00: street before to the neighbor's house and or almost got hit
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  SPEAKER_01: If they're bad dogs, they'll never get hit on the road.
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  SPEAKER_01: Good dogs die on the road, bad dogs never get hit.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's so true though, Brian.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also, our people may notice we might be on video here.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how this is going to work,
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  SPEAKER_00: quite honestly,
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  but we're using the Substack video platform because it bugs me
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  about it every time
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  SPEAKER_00: we upload an episode,
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  SPEAKER_00: so it's worth trying.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it's fun So Brian,
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  the first one we need to talk about while I go off video and
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  put my dogs in the
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  kennel is Clackamas So I'm going to pull up Clackamas County
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  And I would say this
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  is the basically second election cycle in a row With 2024 also
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  being one where
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  Clackamas is disappointing Republicans They don't want to help
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  us out anymore
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  Clackamas had been really fun there for a bit And now it's
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  getting depressing
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  SPEAKER_00: It's it's failed us on
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  SPEAKER_00: Closed races, even in 2022.
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  So really the third election cycle where Clackamas,
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  you know,
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  does not perform for Republicans.
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  SPEAKER_00: So starting out in commissioner position two,
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  which is funny because it's actually going against the grain of
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  what we said.
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  SPEAKER_00: So overall, the commission is going to get more Democrat.
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  But this race is hilarious because former county commissioner
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  Jim Bernard,
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  SPEAKER_00: who is a Democrat aligned candidate,
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  SPEAKER_00: came in third.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the two candidates moving forward are Paul Savas,
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  SPEAKER_00: who's kind of considered like a reasonable Republican.
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  and has been on the commission for a lot of years is going to
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  face off against
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  we'll say disgraced commissioner Mark Schull who was
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  unceremoniously booted after I
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  SPEAKER_00: don't know numerous scandals slash saying dumb things online
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  So he's going to go to a runoff against Savas And I would
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  imagine Savas is going to
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  get a good chunk of the Democratic vote Along with any
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  Republicans who like him
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  over Scholl And so he will win easily in that race But he'll be
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  the lone Republican
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  SPEAKER_00: now on the commission So you have Diana Helm,
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  SPEAKER_00: who's a non-affiliated She goes to a runoff against a Democrat named R.W.
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  SPEAKER_00: Smith
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  Yeah Right And then the big Letdown of the night Really is Ben
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  West Against Sonia
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  Fisher Fisher gets 51 Almost 52% Of the vote Against Ben West
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  47 Isn't that crazy
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  Yep That one really Surprised me Just because I mean Ben put a
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  lot of work Into
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  that Campaign And I just It was You would think too I mean he
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  beat her before I
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  SPEAKER_01: mean that's truly Just Yeah
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that a Republican turnout thing?
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  SPEAKER_01: What's your take on that?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really hard to know because of how weird the other two races are.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't have any clear R&D matchups that are normal.
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  SPEAKER_00: This position two race is weird.
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  SPEAKER_00: A Democrat only gets 25% of the vote versus 51% in Clackamas.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a hard one to explain.
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  and I mean we could look at and see if I could pull up the
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  local results from state
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  contests to see what because I'm going to go ahead and guess
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  that Measure 120
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  SPEAKER_00: failed enormously 85 to 14 so I
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't really see what would be driving that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if anything,
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  SPEAKER_00: you have him,
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  SPEAKER_00: I would say,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he endorsed Drazen or not,
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  SPEAKER_00: but he was probably going to benefit from Drazen in the governor's race.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I don't have a good explanation for this one, to be perfectly honest.
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  SPEAKER_00: You would think,
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  SPEAKER_01: well,
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  SPEAKER_01: what happened was in the 120 stuff,
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  SPEAKER_01: we thought that was going to drag up a lot of the commission candidates.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it turns out it really didn't.
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  I have a theory on that Brian and it has to do with ballot
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  structure so you would
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  think or at least I would think if you've got a statewide
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  measure everybody votes
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  on it so it's on because you have three types of ballots
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  remember Republican
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  primary ballots non-affiliated small party ballots and
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  Democratic ballots they
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  don't all show the same candidates but they all show the
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  statewide ballot measure
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  SPEAKER_00: okay different than November where everyone gets the same ballot
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  So on at least two counties,
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  but I would assume most counties structure their ballot like
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  this.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have federal offices first, which sort of makes sense, right?
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  They're above,
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  you know,
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  everyone's going to vote on the federal offices,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You have U.S. Senate, you've got Congress, okay?
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  SPEAKER_00: After that, you have state statewide offices, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So same geographic districts,
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  SPEAKER_00: but for state level offices,
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  SPEAKER_00: your bully commissioner,
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  SPEAKER_00: your governor's race,
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  SPEAKER_00: stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then you might think your measures for statewide would go next.
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  SPEAKER_00: But on my ballot,
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  and at least on the Marion County ballot of some friends that
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  were asking for help
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  SPEAKER_00: with voting,
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  SPEAKER_00: it was on the back.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so you've already voted by the time you get to Measure 120.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that has a lot to do with that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a combination of the outcome already being known, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Nobody ran a campaign because they knew it was going to get demolished.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no pro campaign.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no opposition campaign on Measure 120.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's on the back of the ballot.
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  I think both of those things combined to basically make it so
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  that it had no
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  SPEAKER_00: effect,
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  SPEAKER_00: no measurable effect on the election results.
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  SPEAKER_01: I agree with what you said.
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  I think it does matter that you think it's like basically
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  people vote the front
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  SPEAKER_01: side and they turn it over and they vote no and they're like,
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  Well geez Who's the one Who's the no gas tax guy For my county
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  commissionaries
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  Because the reality is Most voters look at Ben West And his
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  opponent I forget her
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  name Sonya Fisher Sonya Fisher right Like tells you Like I'm
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  fairly informed And I
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  have no idea What her name is So the average voter Literally
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  has like No clue Right
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean their recall Is probably 10% Of each of them maybe So
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  I think what really has gone has done us really harm and it
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  does in Marion County
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  they don't do it is that we go to these stupid non-affiliated
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  voter or non-party
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  commissions we need to go back to are you an RRD or are you not
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  affiliated or are
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  you libertarian are you whatever like your voter registration
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  should be on the
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  SPEAKER_01: ballot
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  and I think that I think I think we lose because of that I
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  think people intend to
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  vote conservative because they want to vote for that and they
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  know that Republicans
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  are against the gas tax but they don't know Ben West and Sonia
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  Fisher from the
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  freaking hole in the wall and well yeah partly because even in
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  legislative
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  SPEAKER_00: elections name idea isn't super high and in the elections except for like
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  Healthcare and abortion Democrats message the same they're like
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  oh we need to keep
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  taxes low oh you know we need to grow businesses and jobs I
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  mean we need to fix
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  education like they use they can look at the polling and they
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  run on and talk about
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  SPEAKER_00: all the same things that we do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then they don't.
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  SPEAKER_00: The thing is,
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  they get elected and they don't actually fix the problems
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  because they're beholden
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  SPEAKER_00: to the teachers unions.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're beholden to the public employee unions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that's the difference.
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  So come election time,
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  it's really hard to distinguish without the party marker.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then you have the counter argument, which is I was watching.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you saw this.
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  Brian Kemp in Georgia,
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  one of the greatest governors in our country,
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  honestly,
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  said,
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  SPEAKER_00: He just signed a bill.
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  SPEAKER_00: He basically forced the legislature into special session,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think,
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  and signed a bill to make all of the local races nonpartisan in
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  the metro Atlanta
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  SPEAKER_00: counties where they've started.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's a flawed way of thinking I think that's a Republican state
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  thinking that they can try to hold on to the metros from going
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  to blue by going
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  SPEAKER_01: with the non-affiliated stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like Brian Kemp too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Donald Trump doesn't really like Brian Kemp.
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  SPEAKER_01: They don't get along very well.
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  But I just think that's a red state Not knowing what has
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  happened to blue states
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  like us Because we could probably tell him a reverse story True
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  That it's not
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  helping us at all In these county commission races and these
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  local races I think
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  SPEAKER_01: that it's the only way I mean,
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  we're more partisan divided now than we ever were And if you
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  try to blur those
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  lines Democrats still aren't They love it They'll play that
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  game all day long
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  Right Their ability to Especially in a blue state Their ability
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  to go out And
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  actually valid harvest And beat us is Tremendously higher
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  Especially in a spot like
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  that Where you have a head-to-head Because the same thing
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  happened in Deschutes
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  SPEAKER_01: County We'll get to that Anyways,
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  SPEAKER_00: let's move on
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  SPEAKER_00: All right,
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  SPEAKER_00: so next up,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I'm just going kind of in order of population here,
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  SPEAKER_00: we've got Lane County.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I guess,
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  SPEAKER_00: hold on,
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  we should talk about Washington County just because I think it
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  matters real quick.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you have both Pam Trees and Nafisafi,
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe,
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  SPEAKER_01: are on the commission now,
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  SPEAKER_01: and they're running for the at-large
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  SPEAKER_00: Commission District, whatever it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nafisa Fai is ahead a little bit.
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  She's obviously,
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  she's much more progressive than Treece,
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  but I believe they're both Democrats.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're going to go to a runoff.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what the breakdown,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think Jenny Kamperath was the Republican candidate in the race,
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  SPEAKER_00: so that's the available vote that's up for grabs.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if it breaks more for Treece,
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  SPEAKER_00: she'll win and it'll push Nafisa Fai off the commission,
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  SPEAKER_00: which would be
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  SPEAKER_00: and improvement.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I don't know anything about the District 2 candidates.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll skip them if somebody has something they want to write in.
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  And then Steve Calloway,
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  the mayor of Hillsborough,
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  in a big distributed vote here.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of spread out vote.
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  SPEAKER_00: He gets 32%.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's the clear leader.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he'll run against Kipperlin Sinclair in November.
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  SPEAKER_00: But getting,
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  SPEAKER_00: if Pam Trees beats Nafisa Fai,
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  SPEAKER_00: that would push the local government,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think,
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  SPEAKER_00: a little less
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  um a little less liberal although they are losing um I think
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  it's Jerry Jerry Wiley
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  off the commission who's the more like Republican candidate now
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  let's see if I can
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  pull this up here we're gonna you're gonna watch me google in
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  real time Washington
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  County Commission yeah but don't you think like in that
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  Hillsborough mayor is gonna
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  SPEAKER_01: get because uh he's been kind of for data centers and he's just you
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  He's going to get eaten alive in that general because it's
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  going to be all about data centers.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 100%.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I mean,
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  SPEAKER_00: that was the issue that really weighed in in that Senate race,
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  SPEAKER_00: which was won by the second Solman,
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  SPEAKER_00: Solman number two.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is the current breakdown of the commission.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you have Harrington not running again.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's been a bit of a controversial
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  I love this She agreed to stop having Budget meetings with
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  staff And then she said
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  SPEAKER_00: that staff Was struggling with the Complex or difficult nature
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  SPEAKER_00: Now Lane County Sorry Multnomah, we don't care
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  do something interesting and have Portland City Council
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  actually see November will
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  be fun because you've got the Portland City Council ranked
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  choice voting junk there
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  that will be fun so we'll talk about you guys in November Lane
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  County so position
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  SPEAKER_00: one Ryan Senega this this district would be
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  SPEAKER_00: Like the Alabama, the West Commissioner race.
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  SPEAKER_00: This would be the Alabama of Lane County.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is very conservative.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dems don't compete here at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: Springfield is Commissioner 2 position.
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  SPEAKER_00: David Lovell, not all press is good press for David Lovell.
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  He does get 40% of the vote,
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  but he gets defeated by a non-affiliated former Republican.
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  Also,
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  generally well-liked Mayor of Springfield,
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  I think Sean Van Gordon and
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  I don't know that this This definitely pushes the commission a
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  little more
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  SPEAKER_00: to the left or at least to the center by losing Lovell,
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  SPEAKER_00: who I think is definitely more conservative.
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  Sad to see that because I think despite the controversy,
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  did a lot of good things there.
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  SPEAKER_00: But this is not necessarily a win or a pickup for Democrats.
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  And then incumbent commissioner Heather Buck down to Jake
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  Pelroy,
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  friend of the pod.
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  SPEAKER_00: Heather Buck looking at a close race
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  SPEAKER_00: here.
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  And what's really funny is on her Facebook page,
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  I'll see if I can find it real quick.
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  She did a post talking about the election because obviously
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  she's going to make the
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  SPEAKER_00: runoff,
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  SPEAKER_00: but you kind of have to explain why you're at where you're at there.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're Buck, who's won two races.
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  SPEAKER_00: So she won
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  She won a race eight years ago to get on the commission Then
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  she won again to stay
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  SPEAKER_00: on the commission four years ago So she writes,
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  with a well-connected Republican getting big money from his
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  friends We were in a
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  tough fight to hold this seat Says the two-time incumbent
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  commissioner trying to
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  turn herself into the underdog Last Tuesday was just the
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  beginning I feel confident
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  that we can hold this seat in November I think she's betting on
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  a big blue wave
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  which I think we've talked about before probably doesn't really
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  boost a lot one
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  because of the nonpartisan nature of this race and then two
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  because we already have
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  very high turnout in Oregon already a blue wave is likely not
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  going to adjust that
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  very much that's my prediction could be wrong but there's the
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  late counting results
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  it'll be I mean that's the problem with these ones that get
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  punted to especially
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  SPEAKER_01: something like this and you know it's going to be spendy
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  SPEAKER_01: There's another one of those where,
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_01: you could probably say Bob Seibach was a spoiler He was,
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  absolutely I think Jake would probably agree with that
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  assessment But I think,
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  SPEAKER_01: big man on campaign,
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  SPEAKER_01: yeah
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  SPEAKER_00: He raised a ton.
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  SPEAKER_00: We need to double check these.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll have him back on.
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  SPEAKER_00: He raised 295.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm guessing he broke 300.
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  Now he's probably going to have to raise and spend about the
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  same amount for the fall.
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  As well Would be my guess And the question is Where does Buck
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  go Does she Get Do
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  the Dems parachute in More money for her To try to Get her
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  closer Right Or win So
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  be fascinated It's pretty close Man I mean I She's She's right
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  If they can organize
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  SPEAKER_01: And put together the That's the problem With Lane County Now those other
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  commissioners And all the You know The The boomer hippies That
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  live in Eugene Can
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  SPEAKER_01: go out and help her
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  You know,
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  I don't know,
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  she might be able to get it done,
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  but that one's going to be tied.
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  SPEAKER_01: I bet it's going to be fairly close to what you're seeing right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it's hard,
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  SPEAKER_01: when people made their choice in the spring,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's hard to get them to change their mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they're literally fighting over Bob Zybach's, what, 1,200 votes?
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  SPEAKER_00: And Zybeck, I mean, I was talking to Pell Roy.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Zybeck says he's not a partisan candidate.
• 18:12
  But he basically spent all of his time on Lars Larson and in
• 18:15
  conservative circles
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: and in conservative Facebook groups.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I would say Jake has a much better shot at picking up those voters.
• 18:23
  Buck is going to have to go out and find and educate voters
• 18:26
  maybe who don't care
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: about this race.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: or who didn't vote the first time or only voting in November.
• 18:32
  And I think he's got,
• 18:33
  I mean,
• 18:33
  Jake is a brand new candidate in this district too.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: And his profile obviously registered really well as a veteran,
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: as a small business owner,
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: all of that stuff.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I think she's got a tough job ahead of her,
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: but Jake obviously can't let up if he wants to win this in November.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: No, and I didn't follow, well, I have to ask him at some point to see.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: I know he was kind of tied up in the garbage, the whole garbage thing.
• 18:59
  Yes Another one of those local issues He also hit her pretty
• 19:06
  hard And I think this
• 19:06
  was a great strategy On his part for campaign He voted to raise
• 19:10
  their own pay And
• 19:11
  people hate that stuff They just absolutely hate it And I don't
• 19:14
  know why candidates
• 19:15
  do it It never wins too Because remember Jackson County They
• 19:20
  voted to cap their pay
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: They
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: They voted to cap it at $75,000.
• 19:27
  What's clever,
• 19:28
  though,
• 19:28
  I guess,
• 19:29
  about those ballot measures is there was three of them.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: It was nonpartisan, it was bigger commission, and it was cap the pay.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: They were built in such a way that...
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: If the other two didn't pass,
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: the pay limit didn't pass or go into effect either,
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: which I think is interesting.
• 19:44
  So the pay limit was how they argued that expanding the
• 19:47
  commission wouldn't cost
• 19:48
  more is because they would hold down the pay or cut the pay of
• 19:52
  the commissioners.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so it didn't actually cut their pay.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: But people loved that one.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: They were like,
• 19:56
  Pay politicians less Absolutely I'm not getting my money's
• 19:59
  worth And it's hard to
• 20:00
  argue with them Alright so let's go through Deschutes County
• 20:03
  Commission A little
• 20:03
  bit in your neck of the woods In some races you did And did not
• 20:07
  work on That you
• 20:09
  can talk to I think So let's start with The big loss of the
• 20:12
  night Which is really
• 20:13
  sad Is long time incumbent I think he's been on He's been on
• 20:16
  the commission since
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: 2010 I think Tony DeBone
• 20:21
  great guy uh you know what do you think about this race Brian
• 20:25
  and what was going on
• 20:27
  with this one well and I think this is again an example of they
• 20:30
  they used to be
• 20:31
  partisan offices they changed it in for the 24 election they
• 20:38
  they changed it to
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: non-partisan and then in 22 Tony won 54 percent of the vote
• 20:47
  in May over a Democrat so which they thought the Democrats
• 20:51
  thought they were going
• 20:52
  to win in November and 22 and I think this is where and Jamie
• 21:00
  the guy running
• 21:00
  against him just made himself seem like a rational normal like
• 21:05
  even a moderate
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Republican
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: And he just,
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Jamie Collins just lied out of his teeth about stuff,
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: tried to get the development community.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: This guy wants nothing to do with development in Deschutes County.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: He's going to shut the door on everybody now that he's there.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: Tony got hit hard with the data center stuff at the end of the campaign.
• 21:26
  They really blamed Tony for all of it or tried to for the pine
• 21:32
  data center that
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: they were proposing.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: So
• 21:35
  um it really really was a campaign and we only were you know we
• 21:41
  raised about 100
• 21:41
  grand not 300 like old Jake so um yeah you know and Jamie
• 21:47
  Collins had double that
• 21:50
  yeah the Sierra Club the Climate Cabinet the Run on Climate
• 21:54
  those guys are all big
• 21:56
  on building I see his Central Oregon Yimby but I honestly think
• 21:59
  that that is a fake
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: group that pretends to be for housing but also co-signed
• 22:05
  all kinds of crazy environmental garbage Indivisible Band and
• 22:09
  Indivisible Sisters
• 22:11
  very notably normal organizations that believe in all kinds of
• 22:16
  normal stuff
• 22:17
  obviously yeah he's endorsed by all the people who don't want
• 22:21
  to build anything
• 22:22
  anywhere ever no they're all bananas so I think it's going to
• 22:28
  be a real and you
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: know it's also a changing demographic because you still had
• 22:34
  you know roughly we got to see what all the all the precinct
• 22:38
  data was show and
• 22:39
  stuff and see how many more people from ben voted that are not
• 22:42
  affiliated voters
• 22:42
  versus outside of that but another one of those two were
• 22:46
  measure you know 120 you
• 22:48
  know went down in flames and then you know yet they just still
• 22:52
  didn't vote you know
• 22:54
  and debone we had a we had a pretty clear margin in some
• 22:57
  polling we did back in
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: march and then uh
• 23:00
  you know just to shoot the bed on it so it's just a bummer for
• 23:04
  Tony and I think he
• 23:06
  really took the grunt of all of that negative energy on the
• 23:11
  data centers and all
• 23:13
  the stuff and really hit Tony anything development wise water
• 23:17
  all the stuff was
• 23:18
  like Tony Tony Tony yeah that is too bad but I think he did a
• 23:24
  great job while he
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: was there and really kind of became I think the
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's the biggest problem.
• 23:43
  The problem now is now there's no check and balance now in
• 23:46
  Deschutes County.
• 23:47
  The commission acted as a counterweight to Bend with Redmond
• 23:51
  not too far behind in
• 23:52
  terms of being a bedroom community for Bend and also moving
• 23:55
  more left than it had
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: been.
• 23:58
  There just isn't a counterbalance in Central Oregon anymore and
• 24:00
  I think you're
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: going to see some negative consequences unfortunately for that.
• 24:04
  If you go back because Phil Chang won in 24 you know about that
• 24:09
  same percentage so
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: if you go back and you see
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: Deschutes County swapped Republicans for Democrats.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: So in 24,
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: we saw that with,
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: the non-affiliateds and the Democrat,
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: they're more active and the non-affiliateds are voting more left.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's Deschutes County at this point, I would just say it's gone.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's gone to the likes of Bend and there's no turning back now.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I think
• 24:37
  We'll see this fall kind of how blue Deschutes plays into the
• 24:40
  statewide numbers and
• 24:42
  if those voters – because the key is what I think happened is
• 24:45
  all the Republicans
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: basically fled Bend for any number of reasons,
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: traffic,
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: housing costs,
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: too many liberals from California,
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: whatever the reason is,
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: they fled.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so the question is, did enough of them stay in Oregon?
• 25:01
  in other places to counteract the move or did they all go to
• 25:05
  Idaho and Utah and
• 25:07
  Montana and Texas and Florida and if they left the state
• 25:09
  that'll be a problem so
• 25:12
  we'll have to see Commissioner Position 3 this one's
• 25:14
  interesting because these are
• 25:16
  basically all new names I mean I've seen Charles Bear Charles
• 25:19
  Webster Bear's name
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: before but he didn't win in anything
• 25:23
  So all these guys are all new to me So you had Lauren Connolly
• 25:28
  With 37% And Amy
• 25:30
  Sabadini With 30% Where does Connolly fall politically Versus
• 25:36
  Sabadini Schmoller
• 25:39
  worked on this race And we worked together on it So good for
• 25:44
  Lauren's She is
• 25:47
  technically a non-affiliated voter But I think she leans right
• 25:50
  So she was endorsed
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: by
• 25:53
  Deschutes Republicans and stuff so she's going to move forward
• 25:57
  but I think she's
• 26:00
  going to have to make the case we had some split voting going
• 26:02
  on because there was
• 26:03
  a lot of D on D crime in that position three you know Amy
• 26:08
  Sabadini and Amanda Page
• 26:10
  were first fighting to see you know who could be further left
• 26:15
  but you can't beat
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: that what's not Sabadini the other one
• 26:22
  Amanda Page Page is like she grabs every left I mean wing thing
• 26:28
  you can find and
• 26:30
  she's on the front lines of it she is you know the blow horn in
• 26:34
  front of the ice
• 26:34
  facility chick right so like she's just off the off the rails
• 26:40
  but but Sabadini is a
• 26:43
  little bit more normal so what will really I mean even as you
• 26:47
  can see even in her
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: What is that?
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: A bunch of sickles?
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: Communist sickles?
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: What is that?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's all just
• 27:05
  So I always I'm always interested to and I don't know that this
• 27:08
  impacts the
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: election at all,
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: but it tells you a lot about a candidate,
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: how they lay out their endorsement page.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: So like we just saw Jamie Connolly,
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: if you were watching the video,
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: Jamie Connolly trying to run as a moderate to beat the bone,
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: who was the most qualified,
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think,
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: Republican running.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: And he started with here's all the great names of people who are popular.
• 27:28
  She starts with,
• 27:29
  here's Oregon Working Families Party and Sierra Club and
• 27:32
  NextUp.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're,
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: and this is the thing I love about Bend Democrats is they are just like,
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: what will work in Portland absolutely works here.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: NextUp Action Fund is so Portland.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: No one's heard of it.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: It used to be called the Bus Project.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Color Pack, Oregon Futures Lab.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: Those are all Portland-centric organizations that
• 27:54
  and then but she lays them out on her page like people are
• 27:57
  gonna know who they are
• 27:58
  out here and I think that's hilarious isn't it it's pretty it's
• 28:03
  pretty wild I mean
• 28:04
  she obviously I mean she came in third so I mean it didn't work
• 28:10
  well because I
• 28:11
  think Democrats were kind of divided in that it was a whole big
• 28:14
  fight within the
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Deschutes Democrats too on that race
• 28:18
  uh because there's five people in there but the question will
• 28:21
  be in which they will
• 28:22
  because Democrats are way better at it than Republicans they'll
• 28:25
  coalesce that that
• 28:27
  group and they'll come together and it's going to be pretty
• 28:30
  difficult for Lauren to
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: make the case in the fall that she should win you know but she'll without
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: compromising maybe who she is so we'll see I don't know
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: What will end up with that,
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: but I think it will be interesting to watch that one kind of play out.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: Lauren had a tough time raising money, so it's going to be a hard sell.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: for me if I was a donor to give a lot of money to that phrase.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Did Jackie Dingfelder, former Portland state senator, move to Bend?
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: Why did she have Jackie Dingfelder in her endorsement?
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: These Democrats, man, they crack me up.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: See,
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: this is what reminds me of that,
• 29:17
  remember that Oregon Lives or the Oregonian they did with DHM
• 29:21
  and they said these
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: people are thinking about leaving Portland.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they all are moving to Bend.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: No joke.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's the problem.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: They'll leave Portland and move to bed.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just like, oh my gosh.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then Rick Russell versus Chet Wambolt.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: So who's Rick Russell?
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: Chet was the Republican candidate, right?
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: But tell me about Rick Russell.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: Rich Russell basically ran to keep his job,
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: which is a non-profit doing housing for homeless people.
• 29:58
  so now he needs to keep his job so yeah some people like him he
• 30:03
  comes off as a
• 30:04
  likable guy I mean even I you know you can hear him like on
• 30:08
  some of the debates and
• 30:09
  stuff and he tries to come off as a fairly you know moderate D
• 30:13
  I think is what he
• 30:14
  probably sells himself as so he got he did get some support he
• 30:21
  got to you know
• 30:23
  where other people didn't he got some builder support he got
• 30:26
  some realtor support
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: so
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because Chet just didn't really have the breadth of,
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: resume that people were comfortable with.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: But Chet's a nice guy.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: He really cares about the community.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: He's a firefighter, a good guy.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, all the things.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: But that is what,
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: when I look at that race,
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: there is what I stare at when I'm looking at the,
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: the fall.
• 30:52
  Yeah And that's Deschutes right there That's the partisan break
• 30:57
  On Deschutes in a
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: lot of ways And then the last position So Chang,
• 31:02
  the only one who does not Face election this time And you've
• 31:06
  got these two
• 31:07
  positions That you'll have to run again in two years To stagger
• 31:09
  the commission
• 31:10
  properly But you've got Rob Imhoff And Morgan Schmidt going to
• 31:15
  the runoff Ron Rondo
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: Buzel continues to be the funniest name On the ballot of all time
• 31:20
  doesn't get a lot of votes but it is funny to see there and
• 31:24
  then I'm assuming
• 31:24
  Jennifer Letts was like a liberal spoiler against Morgan
• 31:28
  Schmidt Mayor Sisters yeah
• 31:31
  she's um so she she definitely was I don't think Rob could have
• 31:38
  Rob would have got
• 31:38
  some of those votes that would have been I think a little bit
• 31:41
  closer but probably
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: probably break to Morgan Schmidt so um
• 31:48
  Yeah Rob Rob's gonna He did a great job You know Fundraise Come
• 31:51
  a long ways As a
• 31:52
  candidate Um You know Really cares about The community And I
• 31:56
  think that But You
• 31:58
  know She was labeled As MAGA Rob And all this sort of stuff Um
• 32:03
  You know What are
• 32:04
  you gonna do Yeah And then that's a Again It really depends On
• 32:08
  what November is But
• 32:09
  if Deschutes is blue It's just gonna be tough Ultimately Yeah
• 32:12
  For Rob Uh But I
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: really do like his website And his logo It's good stuff Uh
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: Indivisible Bend Gosh,
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: Individual Bend and Sisters One,
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: it's a hard thing to say And two,
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: it's just the biggest wackos of all time And in that Lyonna group,
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_01: they're for open borders Oh gosh I mean,
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: that's like,
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: that's how bad Like their local seven,
• 32:35
  that's the local group But the national group is for open
• 32:38
  borders They want
• 32:39
  Americans' borders to be open These are the kind of people that
• 32:43
  were elected in
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: Deschutes County
• 32:45
  Deschutes County and Bend and Redmond Bend doesn't really have
• 32:52
  a urban core as much
• 32:55
  as like a Portland or a Eugene or even a Salem does it's kind
• 32:59
  of one giant suburb
• 33:01
  and it's the reason we get clobbered is because we are not a
• 33:03
  suburban party right
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: now we're a rural party and we're a working party and
• 33:10
  but we just get absolutely blown up in the suburbs and and Ben
• 33:13
  is just one giant
• 33:15
  white suburb yes it is uh crazy town all right we gotta move
• 33:24
  faster here Douglas
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: County Douglas County here we go these will go faster so Douglas uh uh
• 33:32
  A hilarious quirk of state law puts all the Douglas County
• 33:35
  Commissioner positions
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: on the same ballot.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: One, two, three.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: They're nonpartisan.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: They've gone to the legislature to change it several times.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: And the commissioner that wants to go off cycle will go and say,
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: can I have a six year term one time?
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: And they go, why don't you have a two year term?
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: And the guy was like, I was elected for four and I'm not doing that.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so they never fix it.
• 33:55
  And so it'll just continue like this Until that standoff ends
• 33:59
  This may be forever
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: Tom Kress,
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: business guy out there Wins handily Tim Freeman,
• 34:06
  former state representative Wins handily The only race that's
• 34:10
  even sort of close Is
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: Chris Boies vs.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: Steve Hammerson His wife is,
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: I guess,
• 34:16
  a controversial internet figure And so he gets 25% of the vote
• 34:20
  He's like me I'm not
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: expecting that
• 34:24
  You're not a controversial internet figure You're a lovable
• 34:27
  internet figure Brian
• 34:30
  Yeah His wife was the one Who's a big Ben Eto Like freak show
• 34:34
  person Yes Yes And I
• 34:36
  don't know if Steve campaigned on his own Or he used the Ben
• 34:40
  Eto campaign I mean
• 34:42
  this is about What a Ben Eto campaign group Would put up About
• 34:46
  25% That's their
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: typical Percentage I'd say Average 25 In whatever race Primary General So
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's funny Yeah,
• 34:57
  Chris should win that He'll cover that So they'll be fine Those
• 35:00
  guys are all
• 35:00
  actually pretty good commissioners They are really good They
• 35:04
  are really good I'm
• 35:05
  going to open Yamhill And then very quickly close it Because I
• 35:09
  don't think there
• 35:10
  was anything interesting that happened there Kit Johnson Who's
• 35:14
  an incumbent wins
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh,
• 35:16
  Jason Fields Former state rep candidate Good for him He wins
• 35:20
  there Still moving on
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: That tells you that a guy like that
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: who loses,
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: worked his tail off to run state rep,
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: parlays it into,
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 35:31
  he ran for Park District or something and won the following
• 35:35
  year and then now he's
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: county commissioner.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's pretty awesome, man.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: Good for him.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: If you lose a top race, set your sights lower and try to win.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's the answer.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Worked for our Robinson.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_01: He started back at the bottom,
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: which is,
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: what I told him to do after he lost that state rep.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: I said, don't just stay, keep, because he was going to,
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: Just stay and keep going and I'm like,
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_01: go run for like,
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I said park board.
• 35:59
  I said like city council or something,
• 36:00
  but I don't think he lives in this city.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: So he found something that he did and then he built a base and then,
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: but he's a hard worker,
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: man.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: That guy probably knocked on 20,000 doors.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's a lot.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: Just south, Polk County.
• 36:16
  Here we go Friend of the Pod Throws an absolute just monster
• 36:22
  result up there 60-40
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  SPEAKER_00: for Mr.
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  Swanson Now Polk County Commissioner 2 He'll take office in
• 36:31
  January I don't know
• 36:32
  anything about this other position So we're just going to
• 36:33
  ignore it It's all
• 36:34
  Swanson all the time It's all we care about The good part about
• 36:37
  John is he can
• 36:38
  probably pick what he wants in that second position Now he can
• 36:41
  play in the November
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: race to see who he wants to win
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a great point.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: Benton County.
• 36:52
  So this is the one I referred to earlier,
• 36:54
  and I'm going to pull up an article here.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have the incumbent commissioner in the Democrat primary.
• 37:00
  So they still have partisan races in Benton,
• 37:02
  which surprises me a little bit.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: There's no Republican candidates, though.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: They get about 25% of the vote in the fall, sometimes 35.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: Pat Malone, defeated by John Wilson.
• 37:12
  and uh the challenger I think is based on the fact that Benton
• 37:16
  County approved
• 37:17
  originally an expansion earlier this year for the Coffin Butte
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  landfill and if
• 37:22
  you've ever drawn driven through Benton County and Corvallis
• 37:25
  you see all the signs
• 37:26
  stop Coffin Butte expansion um they just there's some locals
• 37:31
  there that really do
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_00: not want the landfill to expand um
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think any strategist could have told you,
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: based on those signs,
• 37:39
  that if you vote a couple of weeks or a couple of months right
• 37:43
  before your election
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: as an incumbent to expand the landfill,
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: you're probably going to lose.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: And that is exactly what happened here.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: That was a pretty easy one,
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: I think,
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: honestly,
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: if you have all the information in front of you to just say,
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: yeah,
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: this guy's toast.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: Where do they want the trash to go?
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's a great question.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: They want it all to just stop magically.
• 38:05
  They want us to stop throwing things away Corvallis is another
• 38:08
  town full of boomer
• 38:09
  hippies They're just a fight looking for a spot That coffee
• 38:18
  view thing just lands
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: on it You're right,
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_01: it's a kryptonite
• 38:25
  Absolutely All right Josephine County Josephine is probably the
• 38:31
  most fun county to
• 38:32
  read about and the least fun county to live in That's my read
• 38:36
  on this is that if
• 38:37
  you're a resident there local politics probably makes you feel
• 38:40
  pretty insane and if
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: you live everywhere else you're like oh okay it could be worse
• 38:46
  And that's Josephine So you've got two commissioner positions
• 38:49
  up It looks like they
• 38:51
  are both going to be Contested in November The most interesting
• 38:54
  one is Recalled
• 38:56
  Commissioner John West Is trying to get back into office His
• 39:00
  comeback bid is
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't say terribly strong.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: He does poll almost 30% of the vote,
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: calling Martin,
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: who I think is the incumbent commissioner here,
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: 46% of the vote.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: But yes, he was recalled, and that was back in December.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: That was a special election of December 2024, in fact.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: So that's fun stuff there.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm very aware of that loser, John Webb.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: He was...
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: You mean that in the literal sense, as in he lost the race, right?
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: But he was a huge,
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: huge hater of Christine Goodwin and really led the charge of,
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 39:41
  trying to file a lawsuit against her that she didn't live in
• 39:44
  the district and all
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: this sort of stuff that,
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: against Noah Robinson back in 24.
• 39:49
  And that was probably the biggest reason why Christine lost
• 39:53
  that race is just this
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: lawsuit,
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: this fake lawsuit that he filed
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: And then pulled the lawsuit because he had no basis for the claim.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: So they pulled the lawsuit.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: Literally the next day after we lose the primary,
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was 54-46 or something like that,
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: he pulls the lawsuit.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then a short,
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_00: what,
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: two months later,
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: he resigns because they were recalling him because,
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: he's just a P.O.S.,
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: And remember that for like six months to a year,
• 40:26
  they didn't have a functional commission because two of them
• 40:29
  had resigned.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: One got recalled, John West.
• 40:31
  The other commissioner's name,
• 40:33
  I forget,
• 40:33
  resigned and they had one commissioner.
• 40:36
  And so then they had to have what ended up happening was all
• 40:40
  the other county
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: officers form a board under state law.
• 40:44
  Your assessor And your treasurer And your sheriff And whatever
• 40:47
  They form a board
• 40:48
  And they pick commissioners Which is funny to me I'm shocked
• 40:51
  It's not the governor
• 40:52
  That picks them Honestly I wouldn't They do if they don't If
• 40:57
  they don't get one
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: picked I think it's like 45 days Or something
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: It does default to the governor.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_00: There's fallback.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: So guess what?
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: If you're trying,
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: as Josephine often does,
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: anarchy,
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: we have safeguards in place to prevent total anarchy.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: So Josephine continues with mostly anarchy.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: Fun place to operate, I'm sure.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: Quick trip.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: We're in Southern Oregon.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: Let's jet over to Klamath.
• 41:27
  County,
• 41:28
  home of Governor Candidate Christine Drazen,
• 41:31
  or at least her hometown.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: She doesn't live there now.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_00: She's in Clackamas,
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: but she's a small town Klamath Falls girl,
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: if you remember the 2022 election.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: You said that a couple times?
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: It works, because I literally never forget it.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's the second thing I think after I hear the word Klamath Falls, so...
• 41:47
  uh so this is an incumbent uh that got beat and and beat um a
• 41:52
  pretty wide margin
• 41:53
  Brian do you know anything about this race you've got Steve
• 41:56
  Bitzer versus Kelly
• 41:57
  Minty Kelly Minty is a incumbent commissioner I think she got
• 42:02
  she got tagged pretty
• 42:03
  hard as not being right enough you know as a as a county
• 42:08
  commissioner she's been
• 42:09
  there I think a couple cycles and you know she's been up in the
• 42:12
  legislature a lot
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_01: she's done a lot of lobbying done a lot of good I mean she's
• 42:16
  she seems I mean she had a lot of support I mean even Mark
• 42:19
  Albertson endorsed her
• 42:21
  from Lake or Lake County which is the neighboring county I mean
• 42:24
  she had I think a
• 42:26
  lot of support and then but there was just a run of people that
• 42:32
  were just against
• 42:34
  her and you know and sometimes stuff like that just get when
• 42:38
  you get hooked is
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: you're not
• 42:40
  This is one of those counties that went right and I think Dave
• 42:44
  Hensley was the one
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: that was leading the charge on Bitzer.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Look at that Bitzer stuff.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't it look like it's all AI?
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: It is all AI generated.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: What's interesting and I want to put this warning out there.
• 42:57
  This is totally the wrong time to do it because it's in the
• 43:00
  middle of a totally
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: different episode.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: We'll need to do an episode on this.
• 43:04
  You guys that are working on campaigns that are experimenting
• 43:07
  with AI,
• 43:08
  good for you.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: We have a law
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_00: in Oregon.
• 43:11
  It is the synthetic media laws passed by Senator Aaron Woods
• 43:15
  was the one who championed it.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: I think you might have done it with Hansel and some others.
• 43:19
  Get up to speed on what the disclaimer requirements are for
• 43:23
  synthetic media because
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: I kid you not,
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: in all these fall races,
• 43:27
  in order to damage candidates and with AI having a pretty low
• 43:31
  approval rating on
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: its own when you ask people if they have a favorable view of AI,
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: you're going to get hit.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be the same thing.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's
• 43:40
  Complaints Campaign Finance Complaints And Failure To Disclose
• 43:44
  AI Complaints So Get
• 43:47
  Familiar With Oregon's Law It Just Requires A Disclaimer It's
• 43:51
  Usually A Pretty
• 43:51
  Simple Disclaimer That's The Only Thing But The Penalties Are
• 43:54
  Huge If You Screw It
• 43:56
  Up So Especially If You Put Any AI Generated Material On TV If
• 44:00
  You Put It On Mail
• 44:01
  If You Put It On Social Media With A Spin Get Familiar With
• 44:05
  Your Disclaimer
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: Requirements And Get It Right That's My Warning My Reminder
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_01: Steve Bitzer,
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: he may be a great guy too,
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_01: so I don't know him I don't know him,
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_01: 100% I just thought it was very,
• 44:19
  just because she was an incumbent to get walloped like that
• 44:22
  pretty hard It was
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: really pulling all the stops out But Kelly,
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_01: she was a good commissioner,
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: was there long enough Sometimes,
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 44:34
  you could probably say this about Tony Sometimes people stay
• 44:38
  too long at the table,
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: man
• 44:41
  It just takes the right cycle and the right person to come run
• 44:44
  against you,
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: but that's why we have elections,
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: I guess.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: Another messy one out there in Lincoln County, Position 1 especially.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you know anything about this one or just the other ones,
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_00: Brian,
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: but Position 1,
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: what a mess.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: Jungle primaries out on the coast.
• 45:07
  Lots of people run because nobody wanted to get into the
• 45:10
  position three race
• 45:13
  because that was that so everybody else that was this guy
• 45:16
  Walter Chucks run before
• 45:18
  this Curtis Landers right pretty close race like what 300 votes
• 45:21
  looks like so
• 45:23
  nobody wanted to get into that so everybody else goes into the
• 45:26
  other the other race
• 45:28
  right and I forget position one or two was the lady that died
• 45:32
  yes but I forget I
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: think she was position one so
• 45:40
  I can't remember if he was forced to resign or he got recalled
• 45:47
  or whatever,
• 45:47
  but there was some controversy around him and fighting with the
• 45:50
  other commissioners
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: about how they were doing business
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: My read of it,
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_00: and I could be totally wrong with this,
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_00: that Casey was trying to bring some transparency and stuff.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: And his other commissioners,
• 46:00
  I had heard they put him in a separate office building and
• 46:03
  stuff and tried to
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: attack him on some other things.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know anything for sure.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, he's going to make a runoff against Kathy Rigby.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's hard to even follow the drama that happens out there.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's true.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's constant and Senator Anderson lives there.
• 46:23
  So I'm out there a lot,
• 46:24
  but I never,
• 46:25
  he'll read me up on all the crazy stuff that's happening.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I think Casey Miller is the incumbent in position one.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: So it was position two that was the lady that died and I forget her name.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: But that's going to be interesting.
• 46:43
  But there's always,
• 46:44
  this is another one of those counties,
• 46:45
  kind of like Benton County where
• 46:47
  you have Newport which is just full of I know Gomberg hates it
• 46:51
  when I call them all
• 46:52
  boomer hippies but I apologize but I don't know what it's just
• 46:55
  the best way to put
• 46:56
  people that because if you drive in the Newport they're there
• 46:59
  every day with their
• 46:59
  signs like that says I hate Donald Trump right I mean so
• 47:03
  there's just like that
• 47:04
  group of people and they're just and they've been the same ones
• 47:07
  that are fighting
• 47:08
  like the the ice facility that they were talking about putting
• 47:10
  into the Newport and
• 47:12
  they went all crazy on that like they're just always looking
• 47:15
  for a fight on
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: something
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 47:17
  and then now it's or it's the eelgrass or it's like they're
• 47:21
  just constantly looking
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_01: for something to fight and some cause right to go after and,
• 47:29
  and sometimes it pulls over into your elected officials so it's
• 47:33
  got to be a tough
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_01: like Josephine on the far right.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_01: This is like Lincoln County on the far left, right?
• 47:40
  So just constantly battling whoever's in power for some reason
• 47:45
  because you didn't
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_01: vote left enough or right enough.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_01: So those counties are kind of interesting that way.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_01: They're the same but different.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_00: And Casey Miller,
• 47:54
  I can't tell his political affiliation because he doesn't have
• 47:56
  any endorsements on
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: his website or anything like that.
• 47:59
  Rigby,
• 47:59
  on the other hand,
• 48:00
  Color Pack,
• 48:00
  Oregon Futures Lab,
• 48:02
  again,
• 48:02
  Portland-centric organizations.
• 48:04
  Endorsed by Melissa Bird,
• 48:06
  who was the crazy far-lefty running against Hoyle.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she's very clearly...
• 48:10
  the left-wing candidate so if Miller can consolidate the rest
• 48:15
  of the vote he'll be
• 48:15
  in good shape uh for the fall to hold his seat uh oh Carter
• 48:20
  McGinty I feel like the
• 48:21
  McGinty family I know that name are they the most chatterbowl
• 48:25
  folks yeah yeah he's
• 48:26
  around a few times he keeps running I don't know if he keeps
• 48:30
  expecting a different
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: result but
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: But Carter, he's a good kid.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: He's younger.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: He's the daughter of, or the son, sorry.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well,
• 48:39
  when you Google and one of the first things you find is his
• 48:41
  wedding website,
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_00: he probably is young.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_01: Nice guy.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think he cares about the community and stuff.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_01: So he's a good kid.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_01: He's one of those where you got to say,
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: dude,
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_01: you need to go get on like,
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: budget committee or something,
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: right?
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: Run the water district or whatever.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:01
  Yeah Get yourself going on a little bit more but yeah it's an
• 49:04
  interesting county to
• 49:05
  say the least I think that you know it's funny I was listening
• 49:08
  to gosh dang I'm
• 49:09
  trying to give him the right credit it must have been Joe Rogan
• 49:12
  or one of these
• 49:12
  guys on Joe Rogan because they said if you take the far far
• 49:17
  left and you take the
• 49:17
  far far right eventually both of the and then all the
• 49:21
  conspiracy theories and all
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_01: the craziness that happens in the far far right and the far far left they
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_01: ultimately will end up at the same spot
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, you're exactly right.
• 49:31
  It's not,
• 49:31
  it's,
• 49:32
  people look at politics as a spectrum,
• 49:33
  right,
• 49:34
  to left as a line.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's not, it's a horseshoe.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's a horseshoe, yes.
• 49:39
  Such a horseshoe,
• 49:40
  and I think that's a good way to put it as a horseshoe,
• 49:42
  so.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: All right, Brian, here's our county, here's our county list.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_00: That was good.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_00: So here's our list.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_01: To Wasco County.
• 49:55
  Wasco Okay we're headed to Wasco County Let's go back to our
• 49:58
  map I do love this map
• 49:59
  by the way To click on the election results It's fun that it's
• 50:02
  a county shape Good
• 50:03
  job Good job elections team Whoever put that Now just There's
• 50:08
  Wasco It's got Home
• 50:11
  of the Dows So Both these commissioner races I think are going
• 50:15
  to be interesting
• 50:16
  Because they both moved to run Yeah So there should be some But
• 50:21
  there was some
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: pretty
• 50:24
  you know interesting discussions there because data centers
• 50:26
  because Google's in the
• 50:27
  Dallas and that's yeah that's gonna play out I'm only flagging
• 50:32
  it because I do
• 50:32
  believe and I tweeted this and I we just got a text to from
• 50:36
  Dave that said he quote
• 50:38
  tweeted my text or a quote tweeted how did you if you text it
• 50:42
  how do you how do you
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: refer to that he took my ex post and he put it in a text to us
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_01: And because I just said talking about data centers,
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_01: I just said it might be the defining issue of the 26 campaign season.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I just got a feeling it might be.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: I got a feeling it is the defining issue of it.
• 51:03
  And I think it's going to be hard for Republicans to take a
• 51:07
  position on something
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: because we the Dallas is benefited greatly by Google.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: being in the DAOs.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_01: It provides a lot of jobs,
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_01: a lot of income,
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_01: a lot of property taxes,
• 51:20
  a lot of things that that community is building around has
• 51:24
  happened because of
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_01: Google's presence in the DAOs.
• 51:28
  And I think that this is one of those issues where you got the
• 51:32
  far right and you
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: got the far left emerging on the hate of data centers.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: And we're already in a position where
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: You can't do other high tech,
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  SPEAKER_00: at least very effectively,
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  or other manufacturing base because you can't put together big
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  enough land masses
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  SPEAKER_00: to build these things on.
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  SPEAKER_00: They keep trying in Hillsborough, and we're seeing how that goes.
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  Every time they bring it up,
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  the land use nuts go at it like it's the end of the world.
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  if they can read in well this doesn't ban data centers
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  immediately that bill
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  promotes data centers and they just go absolutely after it to
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  where even the
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  governor and her prosperity bill which didn't even deal with
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  data centers had to
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  put in a one-year moratorium or something in that bill I mean
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  that's that's how far
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  SPEAKER_00: it's gonna go and I think that is gonna bleed into and you already have
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  SPEAKER_00: Some anti-social media folks on the right,
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  SPEAKER_00: remember how they were bringing in the social media companies,
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  SPEAKER_00: especially under Biden,
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  SPEAKER_00: and talking about how biased they are,
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  SPEAKER_00: that if the R's go against it from the biased side of things,
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  SPEAKER_00: saying Facebook still isn't friendly enough to conservatives,
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  SPEAKER_00: Google still isn't friendly enough to conservatives,
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  SPEAKER_00: those kinds of things.
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  And then you have these coming out from the left on the data
• 52:54
  center angle.
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  SPEAKER_00: These guys are going to be in a tough spot.
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  and funny enough I started getting ads for a promoting of data
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  centers group called
• 53:03
  Oregon Connects we may have talked about it last episode but
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  it's very basic it's
• 53:07
  creating jobs and creating opportunities and stuff like they're
• 53:09
  going to have to
• 53:10
  get much more aggressive much bigger spend to push back on a
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  lot of this stuff and
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  like you said too I don't even know if it's possible at this
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  point they may have
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  SPEAKER_00: already lost the battle for the data center and AI battle
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that position one, the Lisa Gamby, John Grant?
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Scott Hage, he's running for House District 52.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that his seat there, position one?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that's an open seat, and then Phil Brady's incumbent.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you can even see, as an incumbent, he's probably taking a beating.
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  because you've got two other people that have gone against him
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  and they're probably
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: hitting him up for his votes on data centers.
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  SPEAKER_00: 35% isn't great if you're the incumbent commissioner.
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  SPEAKER_00: You'd like to be in the 40-somethings.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: That means 65% voted against you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's not great.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: That means, so that makes it pretty tough.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think he wanted to go to Union County.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that was the only other one.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Union County, and I'm fascinated by this.
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  I don't know enough about the local politics to really get
• 54:17
  serious about it.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_00: I know two things here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mark Simmons,
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  SPEAKER_00: former Speaker of the House,
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  SPEAKER_00: who ran County Commissioner two years ago,
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  SPEAKER_00: has tried again,
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: did not win.
• 54:27
  I don't know if Corey Miller is the incumbent though that's the
• 54:29
  thing I'll have to
• 54:30
  check here let's see if we can find the Union County Oregon
• 54:34
  Commissioners there it
• 54:35
  is and see who's currently on the commission so it's an open
• 54:40
  seat I think it might
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_00: be Paul Andrews' seat actually if he's position number one
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  SPEAKER_00: that they're replacing out there.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_00: He's been a commissioner, yeah, position one for a long time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so Corey Miller wins that race against former Speaker Mark Simmons.
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  And again,
• 54:57
  I don't know the local politics,
• 54:58
  but I did think that was notable.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you've got a runoff.
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  Scarfro,
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  an incumbent against Donna Beveridge,
• 55:03
  who retired,
• 55:04
  I think,
• 55:05
  left the commission.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_00: Is back.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's a battle.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_00: Friend of the pod.
• 55:13
  Isaac Insinko,
• 55:14
  actually related to,
• 55:15
  I think it's his grandma,
• 55:16
  Donna Beveridge.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: I saw a Facebook post about it.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_00: He's the chief of staff for Todd Nash.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, there's some longtime family out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: That one's going to be probably interesting to watch this fall because,
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_01: again,
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_01: 39% as an incumbent,
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_00: eh.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not where you want to be.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_01: Not where you want to be.
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  And then if,
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  you know,
• 55:39
  you're Isaac,
• 55:41
  I wonder if Isaac's working on that campaign.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'll ask him.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure he better be, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not exactly a big area.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, not a big area.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: 26,000 population.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: Probably 12,000 of that live in La Grande.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_01: Or right around La Grande.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then you got all the people out and about.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, it's going to be
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: Some of these will be interesting to watch.
• 56:10
  However,
• 56:11
  probably only two or three people are really going to care
• 56:13
  about.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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  I think the big ones that people are going to that is probably
• 56:17
  could shape up to be
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: big races is going to be Jake's race,
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_01: Poirier's race to Lane County.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that'll be a big expensive.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_01: We're really going to watch.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_01: We'll watch this one at Union County just because we know the players.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_01: And then,
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: Clackamas County,
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_01: just it's fun to watch Mark Scholl,
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_01: who basically does nothing.
• 56:38
  He doesn't run a campaign In fact he specifically said he
• 56:40
  wasn't going to He wasn't
• 56:41
  going to spend money I mean I think Savas should win easily
• 56:45
  Because the Democrats
• 56:46
  will vote for him I think so That shouldn't be a problem there
• 56:50
  for him But that's
• 56:51
  going to really make a huge difference For us in Clackamas
• 56:55
  County Because our
• 56:56
  legislative seats Christine Drazen I would imagine doesn't have
• 57:00
  a path To winning
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_01: the governor's race Unless she performs well in Clackamas County
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, definitely not.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_00: But it's her home county,
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_00: which is helpful,
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_00: but she does need it to perform differently than it did here in the fall.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I think also,
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_00: you think about that,
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_00: the biggest,
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_00: I would say,
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_00: so the story in terms of is there a shift is it's a blue shift in county
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_00: commissions for some of the bigger counties.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_00: Clackamas flips from being a swing
• 57:29
  County right with two R's two D's and an independent to three
• 57:32
  D's and R and an
• 57:33
  independent and Deschutes goes from being Republican controlled
• 57:36
  to Democrat
• 57:37
  controlled and I think it'll be interesting to see what happens
• 57:41
  to you know like
• 57:44
  AOC and some of these other groups right is there a big shift
• 57:47
  there they're
• 57:48
  structured a little different internally so it may not actually
• 57:51
  make it a big shift
• 57:52
  but it's going to have an impact I think at some point in terms
• 57:56
  of this in terms of
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: the direction for stuff so
• 58:01
  Well there's the local races Reagan look at that we covered
• 58:05
  them 40% 40.01% voter
• 58:09
  turnout great job that's pretty good for a primary honestly 40%
• 58:13
  turnout especially
• 58:15
  since a good chunk of our voters here are NAVs not actually
• 58:18
  voting so they're not
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_01: actually involved there's an Oregonian article that came out today
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_01: We had a 6% spike roughly in non-affiliated voters,
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: and then we had about the same percentage growth in...
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's crazy I don't It's not my computer anymore
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_00: That is so strange.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_00: I can't find anything on mine either.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_00: So look at that.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's just ringing.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: We're not logged in.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: Look at it.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_00: Look at it.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_00: We've never claimed to be technically proficient.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_00: We're just here.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_01: We're on a new platform.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm looking at my phone.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, nobody's calling me.
• 59:16
  I will say though,
• 59:17
  this worked a lot better than the other platform that we tried.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_00: So kudos to Substack.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_00: It didn't break.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't get booted.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's all been very clear.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_00: We've been recording for 59 minutes and 33 seconds.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: I do like that you can do the screen while we do it.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of cool.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's cool.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_00: Here, I'll stop sharing so people can see our faces.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: Whoa!
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_00: We don't want that.
• 59:39
  We don't want that Look at that My Arizona office Look at that
• 59:45
  Is that the cow behind you?
• 59:48
  And I got the pool The pool's right here Look at that Vicky's
• 59:51
  out there laying by
• 59:52
  the pool So we're gonna come home today though The fun's over
• 59:55
  We're gonna get back
• 59:56
  Got a graduating senior So it graduates next Friday Huge So we
• 1:00:01
  have to get home We
• 1:00:04
  waited down here Because my oldest son Just got back from his
• 1:00:06
  mission trip
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: in Central America.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_01: So he was down there for 10 days after his junior year of college.
• 1:00:14
  So now he's,
• 1:00:15
  he just left this morning and went back to Prineville and we're
• 1:00:19
  flying.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I'll see you tomorrow.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_00: Drive-ins for the birds there.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_00: Congratulations.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_00: Good job, Britt, as we might say in the office.
• 1:00:32
  on that so that's awesome really excited for you guys and also
• 1:00:37
  what are you going
• 1:00:38
  to do now that you're an empty nester Brian or or here's the
• 1:00:41
  thing though they're
• 1:00:42
  both probably not all the way on their own just yet so you you
• 1:00:46
  got a little bit of
• 1:00:47
  time left probably before they both be home for three months
• 1:00:50
  over the summer yeah
• 1:00:52
  you're actually going to wish you were an empty nester this
• 1:00:54
  summer that's what
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_00: you're going to wish
• 1:00:56
  from the end of August like don't you guys got to go to school
• 1:00:59
  by now aren't you
• 1:01:00
  leaving off you know and I had this and I will end it but I
• 1:01:04
  just got it really kind
• 1:01:04
  of just because it's on the forefront of my mind just there
• 1:01:08
  there was a study came
• 1:01:09
  out that I basically have two-thirds of Americans think higher
• 1:01:13
  education is
• 1:01:14
  worthless yeah you know and it's really because of all the woke
• 1:01:18
  bullshit and stuff
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_01: like that that people teach both my kids are
• 1:01:21
  my oldest goes to Grand Canyon University down here and my
• 1:01:24
  youngest is chosen to go
• 1:01:26
  to school here as well it's different at Grand Canyon
• 1:01:31
  University it's a private
• 1:01:32
  university it's not a you know they their job isn't to keep you
• 1:01:36
  there forever their
• 1:01:37
  job isn't this isn't an advertisement for Grand Canyon I'm just
• 1:01:40
  saying if you well
• 1:01:42
  it is because if you want your kids to get a quality education
• 1:01:47
  in a Christian
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_01: environment where they actually believe in God
• 1:01:51
  um and they and they they have worship service every Monday and
• 1:01:55
  inside the
• 1:01:56
  basketball arena and stuff like that and they really push it
• 1:01:59
  and they just want you
• 1:02:00
  to learn my son's graduating a year early because they said hey
• 1:02:04
  get yourself out of
• 1:02:04
  here and you can do stuff online to get yourself it's not there
• 1:02:07
  just to take my
• 1:02:08
  money and I think they're great and they've done wonders for my
• 1:02:12
  oldest son because
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_01: he was not even going to go to college
• 1:02:15
  and I wasn't sure what he was going to do but he found a home
• 1:02:18
  at Grand Canyon and
• 1:02:19
  he's made some wonderful friends and it's a great university
• 1:02:23
  and I couldn't
• 1:02:24
  recommend it highly we looked at a lot of schools for Britt to
• 1:02:26
  go to to play golf
• 1:02:28
  for and he talked to a bunch of them and he just said dad I'd
• 1:02:32
  rather go to Grand
• 1:02:33
  Canyon and he's going to play on the club team there for a year
• 1:02:38
  or so he doesn't
• 1:02:39
  and then kind of see if he can make the real team but yeah it's
• 1:02:42
  been fun it's been
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_01: good to see them go and I
• 1:02:45
  and I do like the fact that they're heck it's Reagan probably
• 1:02:48
  half the reason why
• 1:02:49
  they bought a house in Arizona so Vicki could be close to her
• 1:02:52
  boys which you'll
• 1:02:53
  learn that as your kids get older mom will go wherever they are
• 1:03:00
  there you go that's
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_00: a great place to wrap it up
• 1:03:04
  So enjoy what little bit of the Arizona you got left before it
• 1:03:08
  gets too hot to
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_00: enjoy Arizona and I'll see you soon.
• 1:03:13
  We'll probably take a little bit of a pause here unless we get
• 1:03:16
  like an amazing
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: guest or we'll do an
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yes
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_00: in two weeks or so.
• 1:03:35
  We'll see you guys at least for ledge days,
• 1:03:38
  but we'll probably have a little bit of a pause.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_00: Enjoy your summer.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_00: Go have a great time with your families.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: Do some fun things.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_00: We'll be back to business soon enough.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening, everybody.