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Brno’s Back, Baby: Tyre Pressure's & Rider Tension Explode · Pit Talk

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  Speaker 1: Mono GP went back to the Czech Republic for the
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  Speaker 1: first time since twenty twenty, and a boy did it deliver.
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  Speaker 1: We had a legend making his comeback. The other legend
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  Speaker 1: put on a masterclass and a fiery on track clash
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  Speaker 1: that has sparked just as much drama off track. Pittok
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  Speaker 1: podcast is brought to you by Shannon's Insurance. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Ronita vmullin, and joining me is the man who's been
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  Speaker 1: around since before Bruno was on the calendar, mister mac Layton. Matt.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to start off this podcast before we get
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  Speaker 1: into all the craziness. Can you believe it the first
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  Speaker 1: race of the year that there's only been one new
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  Speaker 1: caddie on the podium and three different manufacturers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, bizarre, two caddies in the top ten. The way
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  Speaker 2: you're doing that, excuse me, the way you're doing that
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  Speaker 2: intro there, Ronita, I thought you were going to come
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  Speaker 2: and knock me off my chair sort of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like a Bijuan miir for this podcast and just fall
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  Speaker 2: in a heap on the ground. But that's a discussion
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  Speaker 2: for a today. But yes, it was a strange woe,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't it? Because We're so used to multiple de caddies
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  Speaker 2: being on podiums, and there were many races at the
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  Speaker 2: start of the season where you know, or five of
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  Speaker 2: the sixty caddies were in the top five, and the
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  Speaker 2: race that happened multiple times. I'm wondering, and we can
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  Speaker 2: probably get into this a bit later, whether Bruno was
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  Speaker 2: kind of the way the rest of the season might
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  Speaker 2: pan out. Now, going back to something we were talking
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  Speaker 2: about before about how the GP twenty four is going
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  Speaker 2: to become more and more outdated as the season comes along,
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  Speaker 2: But you look at the other manufacturers. At the moment,
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  Speaker 2: Aprilia is going really well. Katim had a really good
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  Speaker 2: weekend and so this was one of those rare weekends
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  Speaker 2: where I don't think that Mark Marquez had the best
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  Speaker 2: bike in the field this weekend, but he still won
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  Speaker 2: anyway because he's Mark Marquez. But maybe that's something the
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  Speaker 2: other manufacturers coming up is something that we'll see over
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  Speaker 2: these last ten rounds of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Well before we get into the riders and the manufacturers.
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  Speaker 1: One of the biggest headlines from this weekend was Saturday's sprint,
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  Speaker 1: and that was the fact that we have both the
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  Speaker 1: factory Duke caddy riders Mark and Pacovanyaya both sit up
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  Speaker 1: and move themselves back due to tire pressure warnings. Now,
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  Speaker 1: for those of you who might not understand, maybe you
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  Speaker 1: come from an F one background or whatnot, let me
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  Speaker 1: give you a quick rundown of what happens. So during
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  Speaker 1: the check GPS sprint, several riders are flagged for potentially
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  Speaker 1: running below the minimum permitted front tire pressure. So that
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  Speaker 1: included Pecobanya and Mark Marquez. Right, So Moto GP's tire
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  Speaker 1: pressure regulations they were bought in to improve safety and
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  Speaker 1: the guideline. And I say that an air quotes here
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  Speaker 1: for the minimum front tire pressure is one point eight
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  Speaker 1: bar and they have to hold that for a certain
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  Speaker 1: percentage of the race. Now that can go oh, we
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  Speaker 1: can go down depending on whether they have clear air
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  Speaker 1: in front of them or how close they are, if
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  Speaker 1: they're in a pack, if they're further down the field.
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  Speaker 1: So I heard that this weekend the tire pressure minimum
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  Speaker 1: change because there's a guideline, it was around one point
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  Speaker 1: seven six. So we saw Mark Marquez and Pecobonna drop back.
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  Speaker 1: You could go back and watch you see, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: it's peker Vanyaya he's sitting up, and then one writer
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  Speaker 1: comes past, then multiple writers come past, then a few
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  Speaker 1: laps on we see Mark. Mark has actually slow down,
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  Speaker 1: constantly looking behind him to see what's going on, and
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  Speaker 1: then let Pedro Acosta come past and immediately sit on
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  Speaker 1: his rear wheel. So we saw this happen. We knew, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's tire pressure. There's got to be something here. But
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  Speaker 1: there's two different, two very very different stories as to
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  Speaker 1: why that happened. And Matt, I'm hoping you can give
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  Speaker 1: our listeners a bit more of a detail because for
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  Speaker 1: both of them, yeah, it was tire pressure warnings, but
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  Speaker 1: they weren't the same reasons why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Banyaya one's the easiest one to explain, because
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  Speaker 2: there was an erroneous setting, some finger trouble within the
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  Speaker 2: Docadie garage, so the sensor was going off on the
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  Speaker 2: dash even though it didn't actually need to, So that
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  Speaker 2: was one issue there, But the biggest issue was that
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  Speaker 2: the tire pressure measurement was actually setting correctly, so it
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  Speaker 2: was telling Mark that he had he was outside the window,
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  Speaker 2: as they liked to call it, in terms of the
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  Speaker 2: number of laps he was within the mandated pressure so
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  Speaker 2: it was basically sending erroneous warnings to several riders during
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  Speaker 2: the race. And if you'd watched that sprint race, the
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  Speaker 2: thing you remember afterwards that it flagged three riders up
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  Speaker 2: for potentially breaching high pressure rings.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of that race.
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  Speaker 2: It was Iogura, Alex Rintu, well outside the top ten,
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  Speaker 2: and Mark who had won the race. So there was
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  Speaker 2: this confusion at the time. From Mark, he was receiving
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  Speaker 2: messages to say that he was outside of the high
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  Speaker 2: pressure window. The team was fairly relaxed about it because
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  Speaker 2: they knew that he weren't. So there was a translation issue,
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  Speaker 2: I guess you could say, from race control or the
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  Speaker 2: measurement of the tire pressures to Mark, so he was
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  Speaker 2: getting information that was different than to to Caddie, and
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  Speaker 2: he was also getting information that was incorrect. Mark being Mark,
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  Speaker 2: he thought, well, this is not working very well. I'll
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  Speaker 2: just go and sit behind Pedro Acosta for a few laps.
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  Speaker 2: When he knew then that he was going to be
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  Speaker 2: within the window had there been an issue with his
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  Speaker 2: tire pressure. He just passed a cost and gapped him
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  Speaker 2: by nine tenths of a second. Did one and a
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  Speaker 2: half lapse anyway because he's Mark Marquez. So I guess
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  Speaker 2: there's a case of no harm, no foul here in
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  Speaker 2: terms of everyone got the correct results and there was
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  Speaker 2: kind of nothing.
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  Speaker 3: To see here.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not great for a series of this caliber.
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  Speaker 2: This is supposed to be the absolute pinnacle of Grand
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  Speaker 2: Prix motorcycle racing. We can't have finger trouble or incorrect
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  Speaker 2: sense of data being given to riders. But I think
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  Speaker 2: the wider picture with this is you spent ninety seconds
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  Speaker 2: very correctly and eloquently describing what it is that was
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  Speaker 2: going on. Does the average sports fans slash motor gpfan?
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  Speaker 2: Do they not just want to watch a race between
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  Speaker 2: people over ten laps or twenty one laps or whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is. This is a byproduct of all of the
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  Speaker 2: arrow that's crept into these bikes over the last few
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  Speaker 2: years and the way teams have to run these front tires,
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  Speaker 2: and the issue of safety is paramount here because given
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  Speaker 2: the choice, the teams would run the front tire virtually
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  Speaker 2: flat because they know that the tire temperature and therefore
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  Speaker 2: the tire pressure is going to increase when you're running
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  Speaker 2: in a pack. The silly thing about all of this
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  Speaker 2: is that you are kind of predicting slashes, guessing what
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  Speaker 2: your front tire temperature needs to be based on where
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  Speaker 2: you are on the race track during the race. The
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  Speaker 2: biggest example we got of this is you remember all
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  Speaker 2: the way back in round four in Kata when Maverick
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  Speaker 2: Vinalees is suddenly on the Grand Prix podium for KTM
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  Speaker 2: and was given a sixteen second time penalty for incorrect
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  Speaker 2: tire pressure. Because his team had figured that he would
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  Speaker 2: be riding in the pack for the entire race, and
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  Speaker 2: because Maverick has those two days a year where he
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  Speaker 2: masquerades as the world's greatest rider, he got his way
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  Speaker 2: to the front and took the lead of that race.
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  Speaker 3: He passed Mark.
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  Speaker 2: Marquez on track, spent a whole heap of time at
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  Speaker 2: the front of the race with no with losing tire
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  Speaker 2: temp and losing tire pressure in a race that's at
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  Speaker 2: night as well the other factory at all of that,
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  Speaker 2: and then Maverick basically was too fast for his own
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  Speaker 2: good and cross the line in second place and was
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  Speaker 2: classified fourteenth because he got a penalty, which I believe
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  Speaker 2: we said at the time is the most Maverick Vinyal
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  Speaker 2: listing to do of all time, so this will be
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  Speaker 2: there's a resolution to this, and it's called twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven when we get these new eggs that come in
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  Speaker 2: and we take all of the era off the bikes.
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  Speaker 2: And everyone loves the performance of these bikes. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the speeds and the lap times they're doing is absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 2: But when you are making something that should be fairly
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  Speaker 2: simple to understand really really convoluted. And the worst part
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  Speaker 2: about it was because it's a sprint race and they're
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  Speaker 2: over in basically twenty minutes. We spent the best part
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  Speaker 2: of twenty minutes wondering who was in the tire window,
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  Speaker 2: who was outside the tire window, what pressure are people
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  Speaker 2: running this and that. Meanwhile, there's twenty two guys having
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  Speaker 2: a motorcycle race and we're trying to understand what's going
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  Speaker 2: on on track through the lens of all of these
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  Speaker 2: would be penalties or possible penalties on who's in and
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  Speaker 2: out of the window. They've created an enormous mess for
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  Speaker 2: themselves with this. It's hard to follow, it's hard to watch.
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  Speaker 2: It's a massive turnoff for people who just want to
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  Speaker 2: watch a good bike race. We do have a solution
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  Speaker 2: to this. I will give the I will give Michelin
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  Speaker 2: and the teams a little bit of a pass on
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  Speaker 2: this first time we've bring to Bruno in five years.
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  Speaker 2: And Friday was kind of a wipeout anyway because it
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  Speaker 2: was so wet, so one done any dry where they're running.
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  Speaker 2: No one really had the data. There was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of guesswork going on on Saturday. And I think you
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  Speaker 2: could see the benefits of it being dry on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: because on Sunday were we talking about tire pressure penalties
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  Speaker 2: at all? In the Grand Prix, No no one even
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it because everyone had the data to set their
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  Speaker 2: tires correctly.
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  Speaker 3: But here we are about what.
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  Speaker 2: Six minutes into a podcast, and we've spent five and
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  Speaker 2: a half minutes of it talking about tires, which you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're black and round and they go around in circles
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  Speaker 2: and that's all great, But it's not why people tune
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  Speaker 2: into watch, is it.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're right, it's not why people tune in to watch.
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  Speaker 1: And I do think like a fan who or sorry,
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  Speaker 1: maybe just someone who's casually tuning in or tuning in
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  Speaker 1: for the first time, going, oh, it's a Saturday afternoon
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  Speaker 1: in Europe. I can watch a sprint or hear in
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  Speaker 1: Australia and then they see the race leader sitting up
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  Speaker 1: and letting the guy behind him pass. Is that going
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  Speaker 1: to entice someone to want to tune in again and
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  Speaker 1: want to keep watching Moto GP.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it makes it unnecessarily confusing because my
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  Speaker 2: first thought is my first thought when I saw it,
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  Speaker 2: was Oh, maybe there's a technical problem here, or it's
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  Speaker 2: made a mistake, or maybe there's a breakdown with one
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  Speaker 2: of these machines. That's your first thought. Whenever you see
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  Speaker 2: anyone in motorsport in that sort of situation checking up,
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  Speaker 2: you usually come to the conclusion that there's a mechanical
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  Speaker 2: that's about to happen. Fair assumption, right, And so I
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  Speaker 2: think if you're trying to entice the casual fan or
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  Speaker 2: the person that's only intermittently interested in things like the sprints,
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  Speaker 2: it is a turn off because it adds a layer
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  Speaker 2: of complexity that you're going you went through a really
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  Speaker 2: detailed description which was completely correct, but for the casual
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  Speaker 2: fan that's just too much overloed, quite frankly, and even
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  Speaker 2: for the participants within the race and the teams and
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  Speaker 2: the TV broadcast. It adds an unnecessary layer of complexity.
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  Speaker 2: There is a solution to this. This is probably not
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  Speaker 2: going to be the last time you and I talk
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  Speaker 2: about this, but I think it was exacerbated a little
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  Speaker 2: bit by the fact that we hadn't been at Bruno
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  Speaker 2: for five years.
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  Speaker 3: You look at a picture of.
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  Speaker 2: A motor GP bike from twenty twenty when Brad Benda
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  Speaker 2: won there at Bruno, and go side by side with
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  Speaker 2: the picture of a twenty twenty bike. It's almost a
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  Speaker 2: different sport. It's the best visual demonstration of how much
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  Speaker 2: this sport's moved on in the past five years. The arrow,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the gend's out of the bottle when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to the erro stuff right, you can't stuff it
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  Speaker 2: back in. And fortunately we do have an ind date
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  Speaker 2: for this for bring on twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: I think, well, yeh so, because twenty twenty seven like
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  Speaker 1: the real changes that matches said, but we've also got
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  Speaker 1: the new time manufacturers Parelli you're coming in now like
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  Speaker 1: for qualifying though I don't know if a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people know this, but they actually do run quite a
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  Speaker 1: low tire pressure for qualifying. So even if the safety
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  Speaker 1: is there, because there's a potential if the tire pressure,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is at that minimum, that there could be
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  Speaker 1: an issue where it comes off the wheel or something
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  Speaker 1: at a rider could get injured. It's crazy to think
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  Speaker 1: that they actually are running a lower tire pressure when
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  Speaker 1: they are doing qualifying anyway, the fact that they are
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  Speaker 1: doing it but they're not. But then Michelin, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to bring in a new front tire. Now they're not.
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  Speaker 1: But we've got Parelli in twenty seven. It's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to solve this problem now, but is
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  Speaker 1: it going to be still what we're talking about in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would doubt it because you've got a few
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  Speaker 2: factors at play there. You've got eight fifties rather than
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  Speaker 2: one thousand cc bikes, you've got no ride height devices
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  Speaker 2: front or rear, you've got no limited arrow, and you've
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  Speaker 2: got a new tire supplier. So by gracing being what
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  Speaker 2: it is, there will be some sort of new gray
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  Speaker 2: area for the teams to exploit. Because that's what this
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  Speaker 2: comes down to, right, It's a performance issue. If you
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  Speaker 2: under inflate your tires, it's generally for performance reasons, but
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  Speaker 2: you've got to try and tiptoe the line between performance
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  Speaker 2: and safety. Like you said before, the last thing we
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  Speaker 2: need is an overinflated tire coming off of RIM at
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  Speaker 2: three hundred ks an hour, because that's an aeroplane accident.
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  Speaker 3: We don't need to see that.
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  Speaker 2: And so there will be something else in the twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven rags that we can't foresee yet, and it
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  Speaker 2: will become sort of the topic DJUR or become the
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  Speaker 2: thing that we're talking about. That's a controversy because you know,
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  Speaker 2: in any form of motorsport, right, it's not so much
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  Speaker 2: what the rule book says, it's what the rule book
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  Speaker 2: doesn't say. And so will look at the rule book
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  Speaker 2: and say, well, it says that we can't do this,
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  Speaker 2: but it doesn't say that we can't do that, And
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  Speaker 2: so teams operate in the gray areas because that's how
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  Speaker 2: you get an advantage over the others. There'll be something
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  Speaker 2: else that comes up in twenty seven. We just don't
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  Speaker 2: know what it is yet.
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  Speaker 1: No exactly, and that's what we get to look forward to.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly what I thought was really interesting now that I've
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  Speaker 1: gone back and I've thought about it, or I think
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  Speaker 1: that not the only hindrance to Peko's weekend. But you
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  Speaker 1: look at what happened when Peco sat up and then
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  Speaker 1: he let one bike pass, he slowed down, and after that,
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  Speaker 1: I think another bike came past pretty much straight away.
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  Speaker 1: Then you look at where Mark did it. Now, Mark
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  Speaker 1: kind of was looking around him for a while because
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  Speaker 1: he was already gapping Pedro. He waited for Pedro to
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  Speaker 1: come pass, and sat right behind him like he's already
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  Speaker 1: on the throttle as Pedro was coming past. I think
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  Speaker 1: that Peco made It's hard when the warning's up and
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to figure out and now I'm not riding
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  Speaker 1: a bike at three hundred comers now. But I think
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  Speaker 1: that maybe the choice of when he did his drop
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  Speaker 1: down and everything, I think that definitely hindered him. We
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  Speaker 1: know he had the light was on and the issue
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  Speaker 1: and everything there, but look, he didn't have a great
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  Speaker 1: weekend to start with, which we'll go into more detail,
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  Speaker 1: but how much of that really came into play of
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  Speaker 1: just that that MILLI second decision?
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  Speaker 3: Right, it was two things.
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  Speaker 2: For me, what you what you said is completely right,
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  Speaker 2: it's when he did it. For me, it was a
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  Speaker 2: bit of what he did afterwards, because all year Pecko
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  Speaker 2: was talked about not having the confidence on the front
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  Speaker 2: of the decade. So if you're on a bike that's
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  Speaker 2: capable of winning the sprint, which Mark Marquez clearly was,
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  Speaker 2: it's the same bike. Pecko doesn't have the confidence on
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  Speaker 2: the front end of the bike or the decisiveness in
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  Speaker 2: traffic to be able to let one to however many
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  Speaker 2: riders go and then just when at a time of
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  Speaker 2: his choosing just to immediately go back past people, And
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  Speaker 2: so to me, as you were watching it, when you
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  Speaker 2: saw Banyaya drop behind probably more riders than he wanted to,
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  Speaker 2: never at any point did I think, well, that's fine,
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  Speaker 2: he'll just get all those back, Whereas when Mark dropped
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  Speaker 2: behind a Costa, you're just thinking, well, he'll just decide
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  Speaker 2: to pull the pin. Whether it's two laps to go
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  Speaker 2: or one lap to go, he's just going to sit
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  Speaker 2: there and stalk and stalk and stalk, and when it's decided,
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  Speaker 2: when it's time to go. I felt like a Costa
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  Speaker 2: could do nothing about that. It was completely on Mark
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  Speaker 2: when he wanted to go back and win the race.
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  Speaker 2: Whereas once you saw Bangyay buried inside that top five
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, you're thinking he's not coming back from this,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the difference to me between two riders on
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  Speaker 2: the same bike this year. It's funny like that sort
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  Speaker 2: of mid race change of position kind of summed up
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  Speaker 2: the entire season for me because there was never any
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  Speaker 2: doubt that Mark was coming back to take the lead,
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  Speaker 2: and there was never any doubt in my mind that
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  Speaker 2: Banyay was stuck.
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  Speaker 3: Where he was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the narrative of this year. You've hit the
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  Speaker 1: nail on the head exactly. The peker Bannoel, Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: we want to I want to touch on him because
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  Speaker 1: from what I've heard, he chose a wrong tire Friday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: It was guidance from his team, but he wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go a different way. They said no, And then I
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: believe my Alex chose the time that he wanted to
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: and look at where Alex ended up, right, So we
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: had that wrong tire choice Friday afternoon. We knew the
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: weather was pretty crappy anyway on Friday, the wet wet
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: sessions secured pole. On Saturday managed to come through from
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Q one into Q two secured Pole, but only because
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Mark crashed out when he was on that flyer and
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: said he got spooked by I think it was.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: A Zarko crashed in front of him.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But then so you see this downer on Friday,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit up on Saturday, then that downer on
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Saturday's sprint, and then on Sunday with the Grand Prix
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: he got the whole shot and then ran white again.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: It's like, and we know Peco it has to be
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: perfection for him, but I also feel like when he's
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: got the opportunity, he's not making the most of it.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: But it's kind of two variations of the same problem
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: in that he's not a guy who traditionally can just
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: and this is to his great credit, he's not someone
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: who can park his brain and just go for it. Sometimes.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: He's so analytical in the way that he of the
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: way that he thinks in that we saw this last year.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: If you get a bite that is in the sweet
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: spot and you give him the sharpest possible tool to
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: exploit it, he's unbelievably consistent with it in that he
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: didn't you know, once he got himself to the front
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: of races, he would just beat you like it's death
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: by a thousand cuts. Alright, He just takes a tenth
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: or a tenth there next thing you look up and
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: it's four tenths and it's eight tenths. And he doesn't
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: have that volcanic Marquez pace, nor does he have Mark's
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: ability to sort of push the envelope. That's not who
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: who is. And the thing I do like about the
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: way the two of them go racing when they're both
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: at their best is that they're trying to achieve the
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: same thing very very differently, which is always fun to
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: see which of the two sort of styles and mindsets work.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: At the moment.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: You could argue that Peco needs to maybe think a
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: little bit less and maybe take a few more chances,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: but that's not in his DNA. That's not who he
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: is as a rider. And we talk about this on
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: a previous episode in that there's a lot of Johe
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Lorenzo in the way that Banya operates in that when
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: everything is just so in the sweet spot, you look
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: at him and go, how's anyone going to beat this guy?
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Because he's so unbelievably good, Whereas Mark is the is
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: the sort of improviser he's prepared to dance on the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: tightrope a bit more, he's prepared to take a little
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: bit more risk. He's a lot like Casey Stoner was
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: in Casey's heyday, who would just live on rawability and
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: his wits. But the thing for me with this version
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: of Mark, and this is something that it was quite
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: interesting watching him in the post race presser on Sunday night.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: He's the same writer with the same name as the
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: writer that won those six world championships in seven years.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: But there's something really different about Mark now and that
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I think he in the past, I don't think he
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: could necessarily control his natural instincts on when to push
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: and how to push. Now, I think he knows that
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: he can push, but he's better at when he deploys that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: And maybe that's just a product of him being a
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: bit older and a bit wiser and maybe realizing what
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: it was that he lost with those sort of five
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: years where he was in the wilderness through injuries. Because
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: and he's never shied away from this. Let's remember that
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: when things changed him in twenty twenty with the first
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: of those the first accident and the first surgery, there
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: was no one or nothing to blame but himself for that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: He knew that he had overreached that day, just in
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: his sort of anger and adrenaline to try and get
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: back to the front of that Spanish Grand Prix. It
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: was his impetuosity and his decision to push the envelope
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: that day that pretty much ruined five years of his
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: career with everything that followed. I reckon that's been a
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: really heavy burden for him to carry around for the
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: last five years, because it's not like he can say, well,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: the bike spapped me off, or the tire was defective,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: or the team did something or someone else, you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: someone punted me off or whatever it was. It was
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: completely of his doing. And so there's this sort of
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: like thirty five thousand foot view of Mark now where
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: he sees things and he represses his instincts necessarily, And
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: it was so telling to me on Sunday after the race,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: where he knew that he had the race done, and
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: to keep himself sharp and to keep himself intense and
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: to keep himself interested, he'd occasionally just go out and say,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I think I might try and set the fastest lap
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: on on this lab and really really push for a lap,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: and then he might ease off a little bit and
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: then he'd really really push again. And this goes back
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to this narrative that we've been talking about for months
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: now in that the biggest opponent for Mark this year
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: is Mark. And it's only now because of the fact
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that Alex Marqus has had a couple of ropie weekends
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that we've actually seen the championship margin blowout and it's
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty points now, that to me feels
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: like an accurate representation of Mark and whoever is the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: next best rider this year, because I think he has
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: been that much better than everybody. It's just taken us
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: the last couple of rounds to get to where that
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: margin should be, and that to me feels real now.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Is like when Alex was twenty thirty points behind, Never
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: in my head did I think he's only really twenty
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: or thirty points behind. Mark's kind of kept him in
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: it through some mistakes. Now Marcus stopped making the mistakes.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: This is where you see the difference, right.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that up about Mark and
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: what was happening in the Grand Prix, because when I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: heard the same thing, I just went, You've got to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: be kidding me, Like, who does that and then I go, oh,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it's a Mark Marquez thing. You know, the Mark's accident
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: happened July nineteenth, twenty What date was the Czech Grand Prix,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and what date did he break the record? For you,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Caddy and all? That was around July nineteenth, twenty twenty five,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: so it was almost a five years right to the
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: day that he did that. I thought this weekend, I thought,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: you know what Mark is gonna like this circuit because
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I kept hearing Matt Bert say on the commentary or
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: this is like Michello. It's similar to Michello. It's the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Czech Michello. And then you could see it during the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Grand Prix, whereas like and the sprints as well, turn
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: three was his passing opportunity and he would turn three,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: turn three. It's just it's Mark Marquez coded. It's funny
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: because it is not a Saxon ring and it's not
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a coder, but all of a sudden, it's like, well,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: this is a Mark Marquez track once again.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Well, and this is the impressive thing with him this
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: year because he's done well at the tracks that we
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: expect him to do well, like when he went and
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: dominated Saxon Ring. Everyone kind of just shrugged their shoulders
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: and went sure, because that's what he does. The most
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: impressive part about his entire seat was two things.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: For me.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I thought that it would be super close with him
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and Banyaya for the entire year because Pecko's the incumbent.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: He's been in that team for so long, you know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Pecko's in the last four years, Pecko's won two world
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: championships and very narrowly lost to like Gould have one
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: four World championships in a row. The fact that Mark's
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: come into that team and dominated Peco in Peco's backyard
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: is one thing. But there's this, there's just this difference
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: with Mark now in that I think he he's riding
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: much more intelligent and not that he rode unintelligently before,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: but like an underrated thing with him is that why
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: does he never seem to get into tire trouble? Right,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: He's always the guy that manages his tires better. He's
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: become so much more of a complete writer. I mean,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Matt Bert said it to us a few weeks ago.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: This is the best version of him we've ever seen.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: And I do wonder that had he not gone through
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: what he'd gone through since twenty twenty, as you were saying,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I wonder if we'd we would see that version. I
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: wonder if that version would have existed, all have come out.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe it took him the trials and tribulations of that
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: five year period for him to find something new within
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: himself to be able to become the writer he now is.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: But you know what's super interesting to me is that
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I love priding myself as being an amateur reader of
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: body language. I'm like sort of a body language doctor
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: in my spare time. I should get a degree for
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: this or something. I love the fact that publicly he's trying,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: he's not keeping a lid on it, but he's not
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: going absolutely crazy when he wins these races like he's
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: very you know, this could happen to me.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: This could happen to me like this.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: You know, the sky's always fall again, because when you've
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: had an accident like he has and it changed the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: course of his career, He's not going to properly celebrate
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: this until it's done. And I think when it is done,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: which is something I have crunched some numbers on that
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I want to share with you. When it is done,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to see this really rare occurrence
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: of Mark really letting his guard down in that he's
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: all of those sort of repressed feelings and emotions and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: everything that's driven him and he's held in for the
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: last five years. When it's done and you can't take
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: this title away from him, the one that he's wanted
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: for the last five years, I think it's going to
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: be really revealing. I think he'll let his guard down
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: and I can't personally wait to see that because it
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: shows that more human side and the development of him
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: as a person necessarily not just as a racer. He's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: so keeping a lid on it because in the aftermath
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: of Bruno, when Alex Marquez scores no points for the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: first time all year, all of a sudden, that championship
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: lead is you know, you can start doing that. When
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: is he going to wrap this up conversation? Because it
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: is real now those championship lead is so much, But
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: even he's still holding himself back and maybe sort of
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: repressing how he really feels inside because he doesn't want
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to sort of go too.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Early with that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: And one of my favorite little marxisms in his Spanish English,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: he says he uses the word injure when he means injuries,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and when he was asked what might stop him from
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: winning the championship, he said he could be injure. In
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: other words, he could be he could have injuries. One
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: of Mark's little set of quirks that he has with
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: his Spanish English that I love that, but it's still
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: in the back of his mind that every time he
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: stands in front of a mirror, his whole upper body
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: is marked with scars and signs of all the surgeries
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: that he's had. He doesn't need too much reminding us
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: what can go wrong. He sees it every single day, right,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: and that's God, and that's got to be in the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: back of his mind. So it's not going to be
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: over until it's over. But the question for me now is,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know whether you've looked too far ahead in
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the calendar. You know, there's actually a strong chance that
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: he could win the championship before we head to Asia.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: That's actually really in play now. Although the more likely outcome,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I think, and this would be very on brand for Marquez,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: he probably win it in Japan, because whereas he won
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: most of his he seems to win all of his
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: world championships in Japan. It always seems to happen there.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: But this thing could be over in the best part
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: of ten rounds to go. This thing could be over
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: five rounds from the end of the season, I think,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: which is wild.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And I was actually going to ask, you know, when
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: do you think Mark is the going to win the championship?
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Because it's inevitable. But yeah, looking at that, I've heard
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: other people say similar. I originally thought, oh, probably Indonesia.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: You know it's not long before Philip Iiland. Then there's
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: only a few to go after that. But Matt, I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: know you're the stats man, so I know you're gonna
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: pump out some numbers. So what's he going to take
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: for Mark to win it? Before they head to the flyways?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Let me just consult the document that I have very
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: sneakily named Marquez points lead needed to win title Niga.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: So in case you're wondering, no mystery there, So here's
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: this is interesting for you, right, So he wouldn't need
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: to be two hundred and twelve points ahead to win
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the title at Massano. He's one hundred and twenty at
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: the moment. He needs to be one hundred and eighty
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: five points ahead to win it after Japan. That sounds
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: like a lot of points, right. Here's here's the key
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: stat for me. In the past three rounds so Czech Republic, Germany, Netherlands,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: he's outscored Alex Marquez by eighty points in those three
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: rounds eighty eight zero points. The previous three round he
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: only outscored Alex by eighteen points because Alex was constantly
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: finishing second or third. Alex has been remarkably consistent all year.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: That's been the hallmark of him staying in this for
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: so long. But we saw what happened to Alex. He
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: had the crash with a Costa at Asen, and he
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: had the double non score this weekend, terrible start in
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the sprint, seventeenth across the line, had the early accident
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: with juardmir in the race at Bruno, so he scored
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: no points. Mark has won perfect Sprint Grand Prix double
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: in the past five rounds. He hasn't dropped the point
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: since Silverston. Basically, that's how long this run has been going.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: All it takes is for Alex to get a little
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: wobbly like he has in the last couple of rounds
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: or more likely For me, it feels like a twenty
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: twenty five Apulia is now a match for a twenty
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: twenty four Ducady. At certain tracks, a twenty twenty five
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: KTM is going to be a match for a twenty
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: twenty four Ducati. So instead of Alex is doing a
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: really good job and finishing second and a distant second
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: behind Mark, there's going to be a Bazeki, or there's
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: now going to be a Joge Martin because he's now back,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: or you're going to have Petro Acosta there. There's going
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: to be other interlopers that could potentially get in the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: way of Alex just banking these points, and that just
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: accentuates Mark's gap even more so. In a roundabout answer
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: to your question, mathematically, I could see him winning it
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: at Messano, which winning in Rossi's backyard.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: That'd be funny, wouldn't that go down? Will?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: More realistically, I think he wins it in Japan, and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: almost certainly by the time everyone gets to Phillip Island,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I think he will be a seven time Motor GP champion.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you? Oh? That would be wild
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and god, I'd love to be a Flanel.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Well, they're just about rubbing his nose at my goodness.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow. Okay, well, okay, there's there's the stats there,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and there's something to kind of grow by. So you
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: said two hundred and twelve points, he'd needs to be
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: a head at Mazano to take the crown, one hundred
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and eighty five ahead at Japan. Okay, So you mentioned
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Alex Marquez a few times there, and I really want
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to to bring this up because Alex Marquez Juan Mia
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: another collision. That was the drama that I was talking
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: about in the intro. But let me say this, how
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: much bad luck does one guy mean to get in
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a season? You think? Okay, Juan Miyer, we know he's
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the DNF and the crashed out king, but half of
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: this or majority of it is not even his fault.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: He's not the one crashing out. He's being taken out, right.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I've always been so many of these which you are
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: mea this year that I've almost forgotten which ones were
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: which year and which ones were his fault. And the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: common thing with a lot more of these recent ones
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: is that not many of them are his fault anymore.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: No, no, And like we saw this, what happened, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: we saw Alex being handed along lap penalty after by
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the stewards, which, okay, you could tell I heard that
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Alex wasn't even looking or it wasn't trying to overtake.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: He was looking in air quotes to try and overtake.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: But apparently Duan said no, you know, he'd been getting
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: close and what not. But for me, it was the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: fact that the broadcast was showing them for like a
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: solid amount of time. You could see that Juan he
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: was very, very heated, as he deserves to be because
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: he's constantly being taken out, and Alex was like a
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: little bit apologetically. Just the fact that Juan just kept
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: going and going and going. He wanted to make it
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: clear that that was not his fault.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: It was so funny.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It was one of those conversations where I reckon that
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Juan mid ninety five percent of the talking and Alex
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: is trying to walk away, and Mia is just walking
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: around in front of him, looking through that little hole
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: between the uplift advisor and the bottom of his help
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: but trying to make eye contact with him to make
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: his point.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: He wasn't making a different point, he was making the
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: same point.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Because he is so utterly sick of you know, seven
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: days previously he got timpin bowling style by Ayagura in Germany.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: You remember at the start of the French Grand Prix
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: when in Aabastian and he crashed in the wet took
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: out Banyaya and then Mia managed to crash in avoidance,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and the person that missed that crash by about recentimeters
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: was Joan Zako, who won the race about forty five
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: minutes later. So I don't know what it is with Jama,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: whether he's you know, encountered a black cat or walk
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: under a ladder or broken a mirror or done all three.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: At the same time.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: But the guy is so unbelievably unlucky. And I'm sure
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: you're probably going to go into that number that I
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: threw at you yesterday because we were talking about this
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: offline and was like, how many DNFs does you and
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: me have? I don't know whether you've got it handy.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I can go through it if you like.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, come you're the stats man. So yes, I
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: did ask Matt because I wanted to do a post
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: for the Fox Motorsports Socials just to say basically why
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: this guy should be handed the crown now for DNFs
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: this season, so come on, Matt. Okay.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: So there's a maximum of twenty four starts this year,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: so we've had twelve rounds. Me is only done twenty
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: three because he missed a CATA sprint because he had
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: gastro in the desert. That would have been heaps of
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: fun this year. On the DNF table, he has eleven DNFs,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: so he's only finished one more race that he's actually
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: dnf'd in twelve finishes eleven DNFs. The next most DNFs
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: on my list here is Bradbinder with seven, so he's
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: basically got almost fifty percent, again more than the next worst.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: But I reckon minimum fifty sixty percent of these aren't
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: his fault. Yes, he will crash and overreach, as we know.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I do admire the fact that he's not prepared to
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: sort of be patient and that he's going to rag
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: this thing to the end of its life and try
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: and see what he can.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Get out of it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: But man, can this guy just have some good luck?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: And this was the thing right He qualified fifth at
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Bruno on a Honda, which was an awesome performance at
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: a track that no one's been for a really long time.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: He's best qualifying nearly two years, so he was right
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: in the position to do something good about it and
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: still managed to score no points because he got caught
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: up in other people's accidents.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: He's just the unluckiest guy.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I murder GP and you do hope for his sake
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: that one day, all of these terrible events is payback
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: for him, and that he somehow sails through and finishes
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: second at a race or something or other, because I
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: don't think there'd be too many people that would be
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: supported for him, because the guy has just had the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: worst possible luck for a very very.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Long time, and the fact that he technically is a
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: world chammian as well from twenty twenty and then you're
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: seeing this now just crazy, but you just said like
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the unluckiest rider. It also made me think of Takannakagami,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: who filled in this for the injured Yes, who then
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: got taken out during Saturday's sprint, and then he's injured
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: his knee. I believe it was the ligament or something
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: in his knee. So filling in for an injured writer
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: gets stickn out in Saturday's sprint, and now he's injured
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: so who's the next person to fill in Alisha Spiro Honda.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: That LCR Honda second seat needs. It needs like an
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: exorcism or something. It's been pretty cursed as far as
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: this year has gone, because people have been injured when
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: they've been riding the bike, and it's so Chantra's bike
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: and he's only managed to score one point in the
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: first half of the season anyway, so it's Lucio might
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: want to ride it himself. At this rate, there's not
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: many too many other options that are going around.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Lucio couldn't do worse. I'ld say that he couldn't do worse.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: But let's go from unlucky to finally being back on
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the bike and having I would call a pretty successful weekend.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Jorge Martin, Now we're actually talking about him being on
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: track and for the first time in what feels like
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a few months, we're not going to talk too much
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: about all his contract drama because Matt, you wrote a
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: really cool article on Fox sports dot Com to au
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: F Slash Motorsport from Jojey Martin and his pre race
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: press conference where you sent me a message. Go and
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: watch it, and guys, if you're listening to this and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you can haven't watched it, go and watch it because
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to see Jogey Martin skirting around the fact of him
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: admitting that he made a mistake in causing all that drama,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and you know, Massima Rivala basically welcoming him back and
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: not getting blown well out of proportion compared to what
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it could have. I thought that was just just fascinating
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to read. But Matt, I wanted to talk to you.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Obviously P seven on Sunday in the Grand Prix like phenomenal.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: But the seing that that stuck out for me in
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the midst of everything was Jjey saying about Mark Muckers
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: texting him, don't make a decision when you're down, and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like that was Jorgey kind of going, I've
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: made a mistake here. I admit it, but I'm gonna
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna utilize this and not say I'm sorry. But
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: then we hear that, you know, hey, got sat down
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: for this team and he's like, I'm all in, like
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: let's do this, let's do this. And then to come
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: out on Sunday at P seven, your first race back
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: on a new manufacturer, you've been out for nine months
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: injureds what a weekend.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, huge props to him and to the team for
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: two reasons. I mean, he sat there and did a
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: twenty five minute press conference on the Thursday of the
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Bruno weekend, remembering not in his native language as well,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: which is a barrier that you know a lot of
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: us can't even get our heads around. And he stood there,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: sat on a stool on that stage by himself for
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: twenty five minutes and had all of the awkward conversations
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: that you would never want to have. He didn't duck
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: any questions, He was very open, He was pretty emotional
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: at certain points. There are a couple of points in
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: that press conference where he really had to sort of
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: stop and compose himself as a performance goes. These guys
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: are performance athletes because of what they do on the
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: bike in terms of handling a really really difficult situation. Yes,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: a situation that he put himself in, but nonetheless to
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: handle that situation the way he did was hugely, hugely impressive.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: No matter how much coaching you've had but done beforehand.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: That was really really well done.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: On track.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Perfect weekend in that he played himself in. He did
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: some long tire running, he rode in the wet on
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: that bike for the first time, he managed to tick
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of boxers. Most importantly, he didn't hurt himself,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: which is the absolute best outcome of the entire weekend.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: And he can look at that and say, well, look,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm half cooked or whatever it is here.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Marco Poseki finished second in that Grand Prix, so it
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: shows you there's more performance in that bike. And you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: a fully fit Jorgey Martine versus a fully fit Marco Perzki,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: we kind of know where the balance power lies there,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: so that's something for him to aim towards. But I've
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: got to say the way Aprillia has handled this in
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: that they've stuck to their messaging from day one with this.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: You could have excused them for taking like a real
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: victory lap here in terms of everything we said has
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: come true, told you so, like puff your chest out
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: and so to have a.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Bit of a swagger around.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I thought the way they put their arms around Martin
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: off the track and the way they greeted him in
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the box after the qualifying and the sprint and even
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: after Friday practice when he managed to get himself into
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Q two. If your johe Martin, and you've been at
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: this really low air mentally because you've been hindered and
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: then you were agitating for change while you were injured
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and frustrated that you weren't on the bike. That's got
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: to mean something. And I think if your Martine and
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: you have a decent strong end of the season, you
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: can compete with some podiums here and there. You see
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: that the bike is the best thing that's not a
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: du caddie on the murdor GP grid. There's a non
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: zero chance that he stays there if the going is good, necessarily,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: But I just don't think that Aprilia could have handled
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: that better in terms of you're our star rider, You're
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: our big asset. We moved heaven and earth.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: To get you.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: We really want you here no matter what happened. Let's
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: the ward, the water's gone under the bridge. Now let's
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: start from zero and let's build here. I thought both
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: parties came out of the weekend with a lot of
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: positivity and add to the fact that you know, Bazeki
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: for the last what four rounds now has been genuinely
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: up there most of the time. You know, we saw
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: what happened to asen he's been really really impressive as
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: he's got to grips now with that bike. He's coming
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: on really really strongly at the moment, and if you
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: take all of the decade runners out of the equation,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: like he's just about being the most impressive guy over
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the last probably four to five races. That boats really
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: well for Martine because you know, once he has this
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: big break now gets himself more physically ready by the
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: time we get to the flyways and there's a few
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: tracks on the Flyways that he really goes well at,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: particularly Australia.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: To be honest, he's going to be.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Pretty formidable because that bike is clearly quite good and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: he's good enough that he might be able to take
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: it over the top. So do I think Aprili is
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: going to win a Grand Prix before the end of
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: the year.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to win another one or two
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: before the end of the season. And you know, Martin's
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: been amazing at Philip Ireland for the past few years,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: like probably the quickest guy, just not the guy who's
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: what the Grand Prix because of what have Woode Jones
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Zarco in the Saturday race a couple of years ago,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: and he had Marke to deal with last year on
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the Grassini Decaddy. But if you were ever going to
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: put down a race, all, hey, Martin might win for
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: the rest of the year. I reckon Philip Island's fairly
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: high on the list.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I think you can add to your talents not only
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: body language reading but mind reading. Because that was what
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, what do you think
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Joy Martin can win a race this year? But you
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: answered that straight away, you know, when you were talking
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: about Marco but Zechi there as well and saying you
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: know how good he is. It also made me think
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Raul Fernandez this weekend, Oh yeah, it seems like he's
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: made a set. But then I've also heard that he
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: was like no, no, I mentally was there. It was just
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: working to get into this position. Was he the first
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: satellite team satellite writer to across the line? Phenomenal weekend?
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: But was this just because it was in a Prillier
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: suited circuit.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: A little bit?
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's the overnight sensation that took four years
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: to come to fruition. It's funny is that came off
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: one of the great Moto two seasons and we've been
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: waiting for him to do anything in Motor TP Basically
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: since then last few rounds he's actually been really good,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: and I think part of that is, Yeah, the Aprillia
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: is clearly I reckon. The Apprilli has made the biggest
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: step over the last probably six races relative to all
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: the other bikes, even the Ducati. Necessarily, I think Aprilli
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: has been extremely good. Isn't it so so much psychological
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: percentage of a rider's output is psychological in this game,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: right he feels that the factory is listening to him,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and they're taking care of him, and they value him
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: as an asset, and certain guys just need certain things
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: to stimulate them or give them confidence, or to make
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: them feel wanted. He feels like a valuable writer in
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: that project right now. And isn't it funny how the
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: narratives changed with that particular team, because at.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: The start of the year you were there in Thailand.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: It's like, man I.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Agura, this kid's aren't beelievable as a kid, he's a
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: twenty five year old. This Motor two champion guy's unbelievable.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: How bad is Fernandez? He's been there for three years,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: He's getting shown up by rookie. That thing has totally
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: flipped around. In the last probably four or five rounds,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: A goura has really gone off the boil, and he's
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: also been injured. This is the best Ralph Fernandez we've
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: ever seen, and you know, I think I'm right to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: be skeptical that I'd like to see it for a
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: bit longer because I don't one hundred percent trust it yet,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: because it might just be a good run of a
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: few races. But what he did on the weekend, like
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: you saw him just outside the top five, hovering around
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: six seventh through the entire weekend. At no point did
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I look at the timing tower and go, well, that
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: feels like a fluke. I looked at it and thought,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: that feels legit. That feels absolutely where he should be.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: He didn't owe to any great attrition or anything else.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: He was just really really good. Not in a podium
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: position good, but certainly better than a lot of other
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: guys on better machinery. He was very very good this weekend.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: And that's about three weekends in a row now, and
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I've been on record for a while saying that I
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: think he's just overmatched as a MotoGP rider and probably
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: is He's had his chance and probably needs to be
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: moved on. But at the moment there's a nice slice
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: of humble pie waiting for him. Me if he keeps
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: doing this, and I shall gladly eat it if that's
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: what it comes down to.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: And I can just see Brivio sitting back there being
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: like I told you guys, so, I told you so.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: None of you listen to me.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: He's the master at this though, is he? We shouldn't.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: If there's any rule in motor GP, we should learn
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: don't doubt Daviadeo Brivio because he has the touch with
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: these guys that you think back to Vignalees and Rins
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: before he got injured and Chuan Mira. You know, no
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: one when when Juanma came into motor GP. I don't
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: think anyone was saying, oh, yeah, that guy's.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Gonna be a world champion.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: He's so good at spotting these guys. He's probably the
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: best in the business at doing it. So if Davadao
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Brivio says that you're good at something, we probably should
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: just nod our heads and say, yes, okay, David Day,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: we believe you.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: So maybe that's the lesson in all of this.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe it is. But before we wrap up Motorgib, because
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: there has been so much to talk about these guys
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: this weekend, I want to bring up Pedro Acosta double
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: podiums for KTM and I think I messaged you yesterday,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Matt going, when was the last time that Pedro was
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: on the podium on a Sunday? Thailand twenty twenty four. Yeah, Thailand,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: it was two hundred and sixty something days since he
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: was on a podium on a Sunday. But my question
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: to you, is this Pedro Acosta back or is this
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: because Bruno's circuit haven't been there in five years? Everyone
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: was on an even playing field. Circuit's been resurfaced, which
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: made me think less chatter for the KTMS, which I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: think is why we saw an Abashanini up the front
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Pedro Costa. You know, like, is Pedro back or was
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: just situations aligning? The stars were kind of almost in
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: that perfect line for him.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon, if I'm going to split this percentage,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to go forty sixty. I was gonna say
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: thirty seven sixty three just to be stupid, But I
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: was say forty sixty Pedro was better. Clearly look at
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: what the other ktms were doing. Seeing an AA Bastianini
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: fighting for something meaningful is like, where have you been
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: all season? Because we've not seen that. And the other
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: one for me, Paul Spargo, who's in there as an
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: injury replacement for Maverick Vinales and he's finishing in the
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: top ten in the Grand Prix and he hadn't ridden
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: since Migello last year. And Pole's very good. Pole's a
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: very very good Grand Prix rider when he was in
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: his heyday. But it's a sure sign how good that
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: bike is when you can get a guy who's not
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: raced all year and then he's up there in the
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: top ten. He was incredibly impressive and without sort of
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: dissing Pole and how good he is. If you can
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: come in effectively off the bench with a week's notice
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: to replace an injured rider in Maverick Vinales, it shows
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: you that the combination of that bike and that circuit
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: married really well over the course of the weekend. So yeah,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: A Costa was better, but I think KTM as a
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: whole was better. And the thing I kept thinking about
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: when I saw a spargo randomly is that Vinales has
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: been the best. He's not scored the most points, but
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I think he's been the best KTM rider of the
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: four for the entire season, and we know that Maverick
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: has those weekends where he can be pretty awesome. I thought,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: man a fully fit Vignales on a really good KTM
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: at a circuit that seems to suit it to my mind.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: He's probably sniffing around the same sort of area that
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: a Costa is, and maybe even better. So yeah, look,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: a Costa was clearly better. We needed him to get
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: back on a podium because it had been, like you said,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty something days and we'd almost forgotten
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: what it was like to see him up there. But
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I think KTM on the whole was much better, and
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: you know, they showed up a couple of the deucaddies.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Whether it's circuit specific one off or not, we don't know.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: But of course the next round, once we eventually get
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: back after the break, is Austria, right, So if ever
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: a Red Bull backed KTM team needed a good result,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: it's probably at the circuit that underwrites the entire show
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: for the weekend.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: So let's see if that one lasts.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: But yeah, certainly good signs for them.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I was reading articles in the build up to
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the Grand Prix even after of Peguacosta's saying about how
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: he it's been feeling like fire was his words, and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I guess that's translating is the anger possibly or just
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the frustration that he's been dealing with at KTM. But
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: how he goes this podium, this double podium as well,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: and how beneficial and important that was. But that's one
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: thing that you just said that Pedro mentioned. He goes crucially.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Our next race after some break is the Red Bull Ring.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: It's our home Grand Prix, right, we need to be
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: strong there and I think that confidence coming through from
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: this weekend to there is going to be so beneficial.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: But talking about Paula Spargaru, he beat Brad Binder and
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Brad Binda was the winner here back in twenty twenty,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: So what is this saying about Brad and his year
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: that he's having with the KATM.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: He's lok being maybe other than Bastian and he probably
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the most disappointing guy this year because you look at
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: the past few years with Binda, he's just he was
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: always that guy there that would pick up the crumbs
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: if anyone drop the ball. He's just been like a
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: permanent top six championship finisher for years now. He is
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: no we are near that this year. I think he's
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: something got twelfth in the world championship standings, as I
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: call up my pdf here on a live podcast, which
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: is always good, Yes, twelfth, I was a good guess.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, look, he's just been kind of anonymous the
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: entire year. And the stat that's really alarming for me
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: is he hasn't out qualified a cost of once this season,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: if you can believe that. And this is a guy
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: who we know binds not a fantastic qualifier, but he's
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: a good racer, and neither of those things has happened
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: for him this year. So he's kind of been a
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: bit a woll this year. It was interesting on a
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: weekend where all the other ktms had reason for optimism,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: there wasn't a heap to be optimistic about on that
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: side of the garage. When you think he was going
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: back to the track where he won his first gron
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: PRI back in twenty twenty.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's wild to me. I just couldn't believe it.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: But the fact that Paul's barger a top ten. I
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: was writing that graphic and I did it before the
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: whole firmin Al Deger penalty. Everything came through, and I'm like,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: tenth tenth for Paul, that's crazy. But who actually did
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: get ten for the end. After we had that, and
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I'd gone to bed because by this time it was
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: like one am, and you know, we got to get
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: up for a Monday morning to come back to Fox
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Sports and work Jack Miller. So thankfully from Furman's penalty
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: that Jack then was able to scrape through a top
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: ten finish. But the Yamas they struggled here, huh. Like
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: in the race qualifying Fabio, he was front from yeah,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: and you could see it as they took off, especially
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: that main race. You see that you caddies. The Aprilia
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: is just grow straight pass and then he comes off
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Fabio on the Yamaha. It's crazy the difference, right, So
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: over a one lap they're good, but it's it's that
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: when the new engine comes it's going to be phenomenal.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Hopefully that it works.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it doesn't get off the line
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: very well. It's the probably the worst bike in Motor
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: GP in terms of getting off the line and the
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: biggest problem that bike has.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: It's amazing in.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Corners, but it can't it can't outdrag anything on a straight.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: And so this is where I feel a little bit
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: sympathetic to Quaturo this year, in that the pole positions
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: he's taken this year, I'm not sure there's any other
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: rider on that bike that could have done those up.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: He's phenomenal on one lap with the risk he's able
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: to take and the positions he puts himself in, but
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: it makes it look even worse for him, where the
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: natural order of that bike is probably finishing somewhere between
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: sixth and tenth on a good day, and you look
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: at the starting and finishing positions a lot, well, that
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: looks really bad because he qualified on pole and finished eighth,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: but eight is the realistic result. Pole is not the
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: realistic result. And a little spoiler alert for your spoilm
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: own story here Wednesday, Australian time. Tomorrow, I'm going to
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: be releasing my top ten Riders of the Season rankings,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: which I do every year, so people can yell at
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: themselves or yell at me, or yell at somebody. That's
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the way these things tend to work, and no spoiler
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: or alert to know who's going to be the best
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: rider of the first half of the season. I think
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: we covered him in the first fifty minutes of this podcast.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: But Quatauro is one of those guys that's really really
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: hard to assess where the best to put him in
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: these rankings. I don't think his championship position reflects how
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: good he's been. And you can only judge someone based
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: on the equipment they have at their disposal, and it's
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: hard for me to imagine that someone could have done
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: much more with the equipment that he's had this year.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I think he's reminded us this year why he's a
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one world champion and why, to my mind,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I think he's still the second best rider at Motor GP.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: I just hope that at some point we get to
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: see it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this circuit just had no way of showing that.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: When there's a part of the circuit called horsepower here, yeah,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: good luck with that, and it's a Yamaha like, yeah,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: it's not going to happen, But I'm interested to see
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: your top ten. So if you guys also want to
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: check out Matt's top ten that'll be on Fox sports
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: dot Com to aufd slash Emotorsport, and you'll find that
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: on our social media channels as well. Might even throw
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: throw my pick in there too, so we'll see how
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: that goes. See if it's different. I said to Matt, though,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: it's probably going to be more on vibes and less
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: on statistics because that's why we work well with each other.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Vibes plus stats and do you get the right result
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: of the yeend.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: That pretty much sums up though the whole Moto GP
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: weekend from the Czech Republic. Now, we had a lot
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: to cover there because, like I said, the writers haven't
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: been there, Motor GP hasn't been there since twenty twenty.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Let's also go through the Aussies like we do. Moto
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: two Senate ages, he struggled. I saw in his post
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: race that he had issues on his bike from lap
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: one so only managed to cross the line or p
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: fifteen finished, But hey, another point in the bag, right,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: and Senate, it's only his second year. It's still about learning,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: still about being consistent, hopefully as he comes back from
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: some break head back to the Red Bull Ring a
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: circuit that and he's ridden a lot more than we
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: know he has done it in the Czech Republic so far.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: He's having a strong year, right and we say this
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: every weekend. He's having a strong year for his second
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: year in the World Championship.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, I mean, I think if you were to
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: look at where he might be based at the start
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: of the year compared to where he is at the midpoint,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I would say he's ahead of schedule right now. He
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: won that Grand Prix Silverston, he's been on the podium
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: in other rounds. He's probably in a better position than
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: we would have thought he was going to be at
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: the beginning of this year.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: And as long as the.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Arrow keeps going up and we know where it's going
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: to be next year, he's already resigned for next year,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: So look a quieter round in the Czech Republic. There
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: was circumstance and you could understand why that happened. But
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: on balance, I think he's first half of the year
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: it's slightly more than half, isn't as twelve out of
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: twenty two whatever that is, his first half of the
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: year's been better than probably we would have thought coming
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: into it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: So big tick for him, I think, and.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Quite rounds let's say that for our Aussies in Moto three.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Because Joel and Jacob both had massive crashes this weekend.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: We know Joel was declared unfit for Sunday's race due
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: to a fracture in his right foot from Saturday, but
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: also Jacob he had a massive crash as well. I
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: just don't think he fully recovered from that. He also
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: said that he just struggled this weekend, but he crossed
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the line in fourteenth, So two points in the bag
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: for him. Now, Jacob's season so far, we know he
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: had that crash in the off season that has taken
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: him a while. But I don't know he's struggling. And
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I also know he's got depression now of he hasn't
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: got that right for next year and we're coming into
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: the some break right that's going to be weighing on
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: his shoulders also, Yeah.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Needs I think he needs a break in, a reset,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: and he needs probably you know, we talked about those
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: races before Motor GP heads out of Europe. I think
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: there's no formal before we head out. Those four need
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: to be good, don't they, you know, to we need
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: to there's a new circuit in there of course as well,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: with Hungary coming in. But those four races before we
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: leave Europe and a lot of decisions are made pretty
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: big four races for him. We know that he's best,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: is good enough, we've seen that, but it's been a
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: real sort of stop start year because of injuries and
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: some form.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Stuff and a couple of crashes.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: But as far as Joel goes, I do wonder how
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: much of the decision. I mean, obviously it's taken out
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: of his hands to a degree, and that you've got
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: to be past fit to race, but the fact that
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: we've got four weekends until the next Grand Prix, like,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: rather than risk it and do something at Bruno when
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: you're not quite right, he gets that extra time out
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: and doesn't hurt himself anymore, and he can get himself
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: right for Austria. Because the thing with this back half
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: of the season, we describe it as being a back half.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: We don't go racing again until the middle of August.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: These last ten races are packed into just under three months.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: It goes super fast from here because we've got basically
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: five double headers.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: The rest of the way.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: It's double headed, double headed the rest of the way.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: The end of the season comes really really quickly from here.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Now's not the time to be carrying a lingering injury
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: because you know, effectively the second half of the season
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: happens in about twelve weeks or so, so.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: You've got to be right for that.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're thinking long term here, right, because like
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: you said, you've got to get the season done. So
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I think from Joe Okay being declared unfit help. But
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I also think, you know, taking that extra we can
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and getting back stronger so you can come in, like
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: you said, and not have something longer because he's I
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: think he's in the top five in the points of
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: the championship. I haven't, but I know obviously Ruaida was
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: his main title opponent that he was fighting for. I
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: think he got overtaken I heard on the broadcast. But
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: if Joel's going to have any chance of fighting for
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: this or getting that first win this season, he needs
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: to be strong for the second half.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's some good tracks for him in the
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: back half of the season as well, So he's going
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: to finish higher in the championship than he has finished previously.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: We know that based on what he's done, but you
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: know that there'll be give him half a sniff and
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: there's going to be an opportunity for a home win.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: He's approached Australia the way he has the past few years,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: and that, you know, like pressure is a funny thing
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: for a home rider, right like some guys wilt under it.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Some guys find all.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Of the stuff outside of the track and the commitments
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: and the appearances and the attention. It's a little bit
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: much compared to some of the other races where he
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: can sort of just be in your own bubble and
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: do your thing. Joel's just like, bring it on, I'll
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: sign everything, I'll take a selfie with everybody. He's right
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: there for it and loves being in the center of it.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: It's no surprise that he's done well here in the past,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: so I reckon that's one that will be circled. And
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: as if it's like every other Philipilon weekend, there'll be
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: about one hundred and twenty people from Joel's family. He'll
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: be turning up at the same time, so he might
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: not get any sleep until he gets on the plane
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: going back to Malaysia.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I know you're the stats man, But I just pulled
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: up the championship standings for Moto three because I just
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: want to clarify. So Joel Kelso he has moved back
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: to six. He's on one hundred and ten. Now he's
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: thirteen points behind Munyo's that's who overtook him. I remember
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: now Matt saying, and he's one hundred and eighteen behind Ruaida. Okay,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: but I think for Joel to get like fight back
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and be in that top five at the end of
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: the year in Moto three, that's phenomenal when you're looking
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: at in the first five is Spanish Spanish, Spanish Spanish.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Well and also because of just how deep that field
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: is now, Like you look at Moto three these days
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: and you scan your eyes down those championship standings and
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: you have to go a long way down before you
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: find a reason to not think a guy like a
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: winner Grand Prix, like it's a super even field at
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: the moment, it's really deep. So for him to be
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: paddling in those sorts of waters away from home with
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: a whole imata of Spanish writers against him, yeah, he's
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: doing really well.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Now most of the riders are going to go on
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: their three weeks or four week in Joel's case, so
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I'm a break. But for a few of them are
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Moto GP and one writer who we briefly mentioned but
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about again, Jack Miller. He's going
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: to make his way to Japan in August for the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Suzukah eight Hour, one of the most prestigious motorbike endurance
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: races that there is on the calendar, and to be
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: invited to do that as well by Yamaha. In Jack's case,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I thought it was really really interesting. I mentioned it
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: in previous pods. But Matt, I wanted to ask you
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: about the rumors circulating Jack Miller at the moment and
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: potentially going to the Factory team alongside Fabio Kudura and
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: replacing Alex Rinz. That's the latest rumor that we've been hearing.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: What have you heard? What's your thoughts on that?
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: The Alex Rinns problem, and it is a problem for
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Yamaha now because Fabio Couaaterero is kind of a one
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: rider team there with that Factory team right now, because
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: through absolutely no fault of his own and through no
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: lack of effort or commitment on Alex's part, he hasn't
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: been the same rider since Magello twenty twenty three when
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: he had that really really bad league break. He's just
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: not the same rider. And we know a fully fit
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Alex Readings is a really really good Grand Prix racer.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: We saw what he did at Suzuki. He won a
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: race on NELSI R Honda. He's an absolute top shelf
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: motor GP rider when he's fully fit. The keywords in
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: that sentence are when he's fully fit, because he hasn't
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: been for so so long now, and this feels like
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: a sort of career cul de sack that he's gone
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: down now that I find it really hard to imagine
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: that he's going to turn it around, not because he's
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: not trying and they're trying to do everything to help
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: him do that. It feels like that ship has sailed
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: a little bit in terms of where he is physically.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: The gap between him and Couato in every single session
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: on the Stopwatch and then in the standings is pretty
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: stark right now. It's interesting to me that Jack is
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: being linked with that seat alongside Quasurero simply because I
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: think when they formed the whole Pramak Yamaha thing. It
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: was very much supposed to to be a developmental team
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: of let's bring guys in and see if they're up
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: to it, with the logical progression the graduation, if you like,
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: to the main team. That was kind of why this
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: team was established, if you like, to bring Yamahara into
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: line with having four bikes like a lot of the
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: other manufacturers, but also to use it as a bit
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: of approving ground for riders who can then potentially step
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: up to the main team. And the analogy here. To me,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: this always sounded a bit like a four wheel thing
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: for me, in that it's like the two red Bull
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: teams in Formula One and that you have whatever they're called.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: They're called racing balls. This year they were called Alpha,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Tauri and RB and a million other terrible names. But
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: that team when they were called Torosso that was basically
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: where they'd bring in all these young rookies and see
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: if they sunk or swam. So guys like Sebastian Vettel
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: started there, Max to Stappan started there, Daniel Ricardo started there.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: The ones that were really good graduated up into the
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: main team and then did what they did in the
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: main team and the ones that didn't quite stack up
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: were cast to the side and the next new group
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: would come in. And so if Miller was to move
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: to the factory Yamaha team alongside Quatrero, you've got an
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: absolute a listor in Quatrero with someone who's super experienced
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: like Jack Is, who's really good at sorting out new
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: things on a bike and will be quick enough that
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: you'll really get a translation of what Yamaha are bringing
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: to the bike that I don't think Rins can provide
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: right now. It doesn't feel like he's physically capable of
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: doing that. And then that would leave Pramack to probably
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: run with perhaps an LL rookie lineup for twenty twenty
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: six with topre As Gatalioglu and perhaps the Yogo Marrera
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: and Marera. Is the interesting one in that we know
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Brazil's coming onto the calendar for next year.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: It's clearly a.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: New burgeoning market for motor GP. You can imagine the
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: ticket sales of the attendance and the sponsor interests and
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: everything else when we go to go on to next year,
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  Speaker 2: So that's super interesting for me. He's also the right age,
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  Speaker 2: he's super young. We don't know what his story is
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  Speaker 2: yet and the raz Gataliol Blue thing. As exciting as
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  Speaker 2: he is and amazing as he is to watch and
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  Speaker 2: is dominant as he's been in World Superbikes, there is
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: an element of risk bringing him into Motor GP because
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be a twenty nine year old rookie.
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  Speaker 2: That's really unusual, right, So for all the will in
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  Speaker 2: the world, he might be absolutely fantastic, and if he is,
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  Speaker 2: then maybe he's the one that ends up in the
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  Speaker 2: factory team. But it's one of those we need to
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  Speaker 2: see it before we can say it. And he's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a twenty nine year old rookie. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't care how good you are in World Superbikes, you
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  Speaker 2: are still a rookie in Motor GP. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of new things to get used to. He might be
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  Speaker 2: so talented that he can just come in and make
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  Speaker 2: it work from day one, and that wouldn't necessarily surprise me,
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  Speaker 2: but I also think it might take him a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of time. And so if you're looking at that
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  Speaker 2: Pramak Yamaha set up as being the proving ground for
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  Speaker 2: guys to go into the main factory team.
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  Speaker 3: Jack Miller's motor.
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  Speaker 2: GP career is kind of you know, the clock's at
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  Speaker 2: quarter to twelve or ten to twelve. You know, we're
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  Speaker 2: nearly at the end of the ball here. But he's
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  Speaker 2: been around for a very, very long time. He's the
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  Speaker 2: perfect second rider in a main team. We've seen that
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  Speaker 2: as recently as when he was at Decadie with Pacobana.
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  Speaker 2: We saw the impact that he had there. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of reprising that role as Jack goes into the fire
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  Speaker 2: or a few years of his career. But isn't it
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  Speaker 2: funny to think that two months ago we were talking about, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: Jack Miller doesn't have a contract. Miguel Olivera does have
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  Speaker 2: a contract for twenty six top racs coming in. Does
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  Speaker 2: this mean the end for Miller? He might end up
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  Speaker 2: being in a stronger situation now than he was even
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  Speaker 2: two months ago. And you just look at it from
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: a statistical point of view, there's no case for Yamaha
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  Speaker 2: to get rid of Jack relative to Olivera or anybody else.
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  Speaker 2: It's fifty two points to six. It's twelve zero. Jack
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  Speaker 2: leeds in qualifying for the season over's teammates. And someone
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: mentioned this and I forget who it was. On a
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  Speaker 2: podcast I was listening to the other day, so apologies
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  Speaker 2: to whoever mentioned it. Jorge Martin scored more points in
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: one Grand Prix last Sunday than Miguel Olivera scored this year,
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  Speaker 2: and that's a pretty damning statistic. So in terms of
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  Speaker 2: do I think that Pramak are probably going to part
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: ways with Olivera, I would say almost certainly yes, But
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's necessarily a case of Jack staying there.
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  Speaker 2: I think Jack might even have a chance of being
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  Speaker 2: promoted up to the factory Yamaha team, because Yamaha has
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  Speaker 2: this rins problem that won't go away. And as hard
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: as it is to say, I don't see how another
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  Speaker 2: few races or even next year is going to change
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: a story that we've been seeing for two years. It
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: feels like Alex Rinza's physical decline is real, and maybe
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: that's the reason he gets shoehorned out.
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  Speaker 3: Of that suit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of speechless because I thought you were
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  Speaker 1: just gonna be like, I reckon, Jack's going to move up.
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  Speaker 1: But the fact that you've really thought about this in depth,
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  Speaker 1: and my original thought was Okay, yeah, Jack will move
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  Speaker 1: up be a teammate to Corderrero and yes, top Racs
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  Speaker 1: next year. I actually thought that they that Pramac would
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: bring Arbilino up because he's in their development team in
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Moto too, right, But yes, Diogo Morera, we spoke about
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: this last weekend. Obviously he made that silly mistake, but
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: we've seen the consistency and Brazil coming back onto the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Moto GP calendar for the first time in forever. There's
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: a sales point to it as well, and that's the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: thing with motogib is not just always about what you
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: can do on the bike, it's also outside factors.
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  Speaker 3: Well, another factor two.
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  Speaker 2: We heard overnight Monday night Australian time there's going to
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: be an Argentinian Grand Prix in twenty twenty seven. We're
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: not going back to Turmas in twenty twenty six, but
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: there's going to be a race quite near Buenos Aires
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven. And we go to this new
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  Speaker 2: regulation set having a South American rider on the grid
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  Speaker 2: for a South American race. It sounds like a bit
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  Speaker 2: of a no brainer to me, and imagine, well that's
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: going to do for tourism dollars and getting people through
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: the gates and potential new sponsors for the sport and
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: so on and so forth. It sounds like a bit
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: of a can't lose, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it makes sense what you said actually makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: It was different than what I had thought of my head.
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  Speaker 1: But like you said, looking at the points, Fabric Cordoro
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  Speaker 1: is currently ninth in the championship and one hundred and two.
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  Speaker 1: The next Yamaha is Jack on fifty two, and he
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: is fourteenth, and then we go down to eighteenth and
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  Speaker 1: it's Alex Rinz who's on the factory bike, and then yes,
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  Speaker 1: all the way back down in twenty fifth is Miguel
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  Speaker 1: Oliver who's only a head of so Chantre who scored
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: his maiden point, and Alicia swagrou So the numbers speak
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  Speaker 1: for themselves.
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  Speaker 2: What Kuatero has scored two more points and all the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: other Yamaha riders put together, there's a step.
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  Speaker 1: For you that just shows you what Cordero is like
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  Speaker 1: as a writer and why he is number one at
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Yama and why he deserves to be another world champion
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  Speaker 1: if he gets on that bike that can then go
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  Speaker 1: head to head with Marquez or twenty seven just sounding
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  Speaker 1: more and more exciting everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: I cannot wait for twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: I know we have to get through the rest of
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  Speaker 2: twenty five and or the twenty six, but bring on
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Bring on twenty seven. And for those of you listening
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: at home, bring on the Suzuka eight hour because we
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: have it on Fox Sports and KO. All of the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: action you guys can watch on channel five oh six
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  Speaker 1: on Fox Sports and like I said, on KO Sports.
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  Speaker 1: But from Matt Clayton and myself Ronita Vermulin, I think
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: that pretty much sums up the Czech Grand Prix. We're
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: not going to be having a summer break though. We
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: are still going to be here bringing you guys as
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: much morotog news as we can and maybe even a
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: few guests along the way. But for now, if you
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: want to keep up to date with all the latest
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: MotoGP news, you can on our website, foxsports dot com
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: dot Au, Forward Slash Motorsport, and also on our social
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: media channels at Fox Motorsport everywhere. Like I said, from
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Matt Clayton myself, that is goodbye from now and we'll
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: be back real soon with more Moto GP. Pittalk