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The DiCecco Daily: Looking At Eagles Trade For Tank Bigsby · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody? Welcome into this edition of to check
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  O Daily.
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  Speaker 2: It's Andrew de Checko and Eagles Chiefs Week continues to
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  churn on the inside the Birds platforms, and of course
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  right here on to check O Daily, and the Eagles,
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  speaking of churning, continue to churn the bottom of the roster.
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  On Monday evening, it was announced that Howie Roseman and
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  the Eagles initiated another trade with the Jacksonville Jaguars for
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  the second time in two weeks, this time acquiring running
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  back Tank Bigsby. And for Tank Bigsby, that is an
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  upside edition. I'm expecting any time a player like that
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  is available, Howie Roseman's going to take a swing. But
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  for perspective, Bigsby a twenty twenty three to third round pick.
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  He's twenty four years old. He rushed for seven and
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  sixty six yards last season and had five carries on
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  Sunday in Jacksonville's opener. Now, it is a bit of
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  a crowded backfield there down in Jacksonville. They drafted a
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  young running back in the fourth round who they're probably
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  looking to elevate into a more expanded role. And I
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  guess it just didn't seem like Bigsby had much of
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  a role. But in Philadelphia he fits in and joins
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  a running back room that includes Saquon Barkley, Will Shipley,
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  and AJ Dillon, giving them a very versatile four headed
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  rushing attack. So Will Shipley, of course, suffered the ribs
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  injury in the season opener on the in the line
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  to go into the locker room. I saw him on
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  the other side of that barrier walking out while we
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  were waiting. Seemed like he might have been walking a
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  little gingerly. I caught a brief glimpse as I saw
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  him pass, but that has something to do with it.
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  To add some more depth, But the Eagles really want
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  to explore big Be as a kick returner. This is
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  something that the NFL is prioritizing in light of the
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  new kickoff rule.
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  Speaker 1: They had Shipley, they had AJ Dillon.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even be surprised if Ben Van Sumerin would
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  have been in the mix. Just the Eagles trying to
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  find different ways to make that more of a dynamic
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  aspect of what they do. And for Bigsby, he has
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  a really good downhill approach, that inside zone look that
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  you get on these kick returns that the Eagles are
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  really focusing on this season. Plus, he has two years
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  remaining on his rookie deal, so he's not just an
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  addition for the here and now, but even looking towards
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  the future. The Eagles gave up a fifth and a
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  sixth round pick to get him, so that compensation suggests
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  that it's not There's more that meets.
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  Speaker 1: The eyes, not just for special teams.
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  Speaker 2: They view him as a piece of the backfield in
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  the future, and even someone who can help them this season.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: To be clear, I still view will Shipway as the
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  eagles number two running back. Unfortunately, he now dealing with
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  a rib injury and his timeline to return is still undetermined.
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  But obviously that's not a good thing, especially for someone
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  who looked like he was ready to carve out a
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  really big role in the opener, and then in the
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  second half he wasn't even spotted on the sideline, So
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  something to.
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  Speaker 1: Keep an eye on there.
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  Speaker 2: But the Eagles add another player from the Jacksonville Jaguars
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  and strike another deal, so Bigsby joins the eagles fifty
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  three man roster. The signing was made official Tuesday around
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  eleven thirty just before coordinators spoke, so they had to
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  make a corresponding move, of course, So that means that
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  someone on the fifty three is no longer going to
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  be there, and that was the case today with the Eagles,
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  and they had to make a difficult decision. They waived
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  defensive lineman Gabe Hall from the active roster and they
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  released running back Montreal Johnson Junior from the practice squad.
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  Montreal Johnson Junior was signed on Monday, and then on
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  Tuesday the Eagles parted ways. Now we've mentioned the four
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  running backs on the active roster, they also have former
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  Notre Dame running back former draftee of the Denver Broncos,
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  Audric Estimee also on the practice squad. So not quite
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  sure you need six running backshould The Eagles made it
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  five and they also signed center slash guard Jake Majors
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  to the practice squad. So for those who don't know
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  about Majors, he's six foot three, three hundred and six pounds.
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  He signed with the Bucks as a rookie free agent,
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  spent five years at Texas and for Gabe Haul. He
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  played five snaps in his NFL debut against the Cowboys,
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  he now goes on waivers presumably should he clear waivers,
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  and that's far from a guarantee. Anytime you have a
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  young defensive lineman with upside and a skill set being
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  six foot six and versatile, that's never a certainty that
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  they clear waivers. But should Gabe Haaul clear waivers, my
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  expectation is that he would join the Eagles practice squad.
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  Really interesting that the team did not opt to you know,
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  I guess parse the seven edge rushers. One of these
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  seven edge rushers from that room. That's an unprecedented number.
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  But the Eagles are also a team that once rostered
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  seven defensive tackles on the fifty three man roster.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: Contavious Street was that seventh defensive tackle. So they prioritize
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  that it gives them optionality. Patrick Johnson, who was signed
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  to the fifty three on Monday, gives them the special
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  teams versatility and game day value, whereas someone like Azizo Jalari.
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  Speaker 1: And Obo Okoronquell and.
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  Speaker 2: Zadavius I'm sorry, Zadarius Smith, and he gives you that
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  veteran presence who brings sixty nine career sacks, so he
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  will be the third edge rusher once fully onboarded, and
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  then Aziz Ojulari, Andre's josh Usha, but Obo Ocaronquall, they
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  all round out that room behind No.
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  Speaker 1: One Smith and Jaylox's Hunt and.
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  Speaker 2: As he's o Jelari, I still believe that there's something there.
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  Perhaps the light hasn't went on yet. But you look
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  at someone who's twenty five years old. He has the pedigree,
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  he has twenty two career sacks, and he's healthy, which
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  is the most important thing for Ojilari, who struggle with
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  injuries throughout his young career. That's not somebody that I
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  think you want to set free and part with this
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  early on. You got to continue to work with someone
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  like that if you feel like there might be something there.
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  But he's not quite ready to help in the immediate future.
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  Obo Okoronkwo is thirty years old. He's been around for
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  a while. He's been on a number of different teams.
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  I think the Eagles are his fifth team. He adds
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  a veteran presence who's been in a number of different schemes,
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  so he has value as well. But for now, the
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  Eagles are sticking with their seven edge rushers and they
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  instead pull from the defensive tackle room. Gabe Hall was
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  waived and that now gives them five defensive tackles at
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  the position with Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Moro, Ojima, Ty
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  Robinson the rookie, and Byron Young. So there's been an
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  update on the Jalen Carter situation. So the NFL is
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  viewing Week one as a suspension. Remember, Jalen Carter did
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  not play a single game, a single snap in that
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  game after spitting on Dak Prescott and being ejected in
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  that game. So there's going to be no further suspension
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  for Jalen Carter. He'll be eligible to play Week two
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  in Kansas City, and the NFL was finding him fifty
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  seven thousand, two hundred and twenty two dollars, so a
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  hefty fine for Jalen Carter, but no further suspension. That
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  was handed down Tuesday afternoon around for o'clock. So there's
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  the Jalen Carter update that everyone has been anxiously awaiting.
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  The Eagles coordinators also spoke Tuesday, as they will every
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  Tuesday throughout the season, caring a weird schedule or maybe
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  a holiday, but so we heard from defensive coordinator Vic Vangio,
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  special teams coordinator Michael Clay, and offensive coordinator Kevin Patullo.
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  Just a couple quick notes from Vic Vangio, Always direct
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  and to the point, always someone who doesn't pull punches
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  that were mince words. When asked about a Dori Jackson,
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  he said, you know right now, yes, is the plan
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  for the Eagles and that defense to continue on with
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  him as the starting corner. And he also mentioned safety
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  Drew mccooba, the rookie, and how he fared in his
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  NFL debut, and he said he did okay, and then
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  he went to talk about him. He said he had
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  two major busts and coverage and he's hoping that he
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  improves that moving forward to next week. But he's very
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  blunt and very honest, and that's something you can always
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  expect from Vic Vangio. And then when asked about Cooper
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  degene about his prospects of playing on the outside, he said,
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  preferably they'll keep him at nickel. And that's something that
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  really isn't a surprise to me when you go back
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  and listen to what Vic Fangio had to say in
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  the summer about that they're still looking to find a
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  nickel corner that they have to have someone who they
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  feel comfortable with putting him in there. Cooper Degene is
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  already among the best nickel defenders in the game, so
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  to take him from that spot move him outside creates
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  a significant void that can't easily be replaced. Remember Avonte
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  Maddox was the starting nickelback last season to start and
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  got picked on in the middle of the field. The
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  middle of the field was grossly exploited and it wasn't
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  really until they plugged Cooper Degene in that nickel role
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  coming out of the bye week that the defense started
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  to take shape and was able to kind of build
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  on that momentum. Whenever you're able to plug the middle
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  of the field the way that he can. And again,
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  receivers have two way gos. You don't have the sideline
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  as a barrier. You have to be a willing participant
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  in run fits and you also have to know all
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  three levels what their responsibilities are.
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  Speaker 1: So you have to have a considerable football a high
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  level football IQ to play the nickel role. So he's
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  ideal for that.
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  Speaker 2: But Dori Jackson, he said, right now is the plan
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  to have him start the game in Kansas City, and really, honestly,
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  that's probably the right decision. The starters don't have a
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  lot of reps with one another in a game setting.
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  Training camp is one thing, but the regular season is another.
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  If certain players are going to be afforded grace, if
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  you're being objective, that includes a Dori Jackson. He should
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  be included in that. And it wasn't a great effort.
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  I mean, believe me, that was not a good effort
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  in his Eagles debut, But he does deserve another opportunity
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  to go out there. He's a veteran, he's played a
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  lot of football, and Vic Vangio indicated they, I guess
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  it was a couple of weeks ago now that he
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  was going to afford whoever was the cornerback two opposite
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  Quenya Mitchell a bit of a leash. So we'll have
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  to wait and see how long that leash ultimately is
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  if he runs into trouble in Kansas City. I'm not
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  suggesting that they kind of just accept it and kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of ride that out in that game.
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  Speaker 2: You have to make a decision, and if they filled
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  Jacoreyan Bennett is a better option, then you have to
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  put him in there. But the last thing that the
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  Eagles would probably want to do I have to imagine
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  is pool of Dori Jackson early at the first sign
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  of struggles, let him work through that and try to
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  build that chemistry in the secondary. You also, when you
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  have a rookie like Drew mccouba and you had a
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  Dori Jackson there, you want to try and keep that secondary. Ideally,
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  obviously the play is going to be the determining factor,
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  but you want to try and establish continuity there, which
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  helps from a communications standpoint and just overall functionality for
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  the defense. So he's obviously going to have to elevate
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  his play, but Dori Jackson's played enough football that maybe
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  you want to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Put him out there.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to be as prolific as an aerial
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  attack as what he just saw against Dallas, and who knows,
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  But what I will say is after the game sometimes
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  you see this.
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  Speaker 1: You don't always see this with younger corners. It depends.
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  Speaker 2: But for Dory Jackson, someone who's logged a ton of
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  snaps in the NFL, he didn't look like he was down.
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  He didn't look like he was low, he was even
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  keel and kind of just you know, bouncing back, you know,
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  looking at week two is another opportunity take one on
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  the chin. Gave himself a C for his performance and
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  kind of has that mindset that you need to have
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  as a corner where it's got to be next play
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  good or bad. You have to have a short memory,
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  and that's really a fascinating element to being a cornerback
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  in the NFL. And I've had a lot of really
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  good conversations over the years, namely with James Bradbury. I
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  remember talking to him in LA about what it takes
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  or what goes into the approach of having a short
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  mindset and is that something that's inherent or something that
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  you had to develop over time, And he gave a
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  really insightful answer, and so did Dori Jackson when I
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  spoke to him after the game on Sunday. So he'll
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  be out there, Drew mccouba will be out there. And
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  he also highlighted the play of Jordan Davis and his
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  conditioning and that had it not been for that conditioning,
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  then Vic didn't seem optimistic that he would be able
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  to go out there and play those fifty three snaps
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  eighty seven percent of the total and play at such
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  a high level in which he did that was and
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  I don't think this is hyperbole, the best game Jordan
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  Davis has played as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles.
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  So interesting takeaways from Vic Vangio and oh, I'll also
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  add this, and again, Vic doesn't mince words, so if
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  you kind of read between the lines and listen to
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  his answer or even his expression when talking about Jalen
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  Carter as it pertained to the incident on Thursday night,
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  he was asked about Carter's maturity behind the scenes, and
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  Vic said, plain a day, actions speak louder than words.
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  So really good sessions from Vic Vangio, from Michael Clay
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  and from Kevin Patulo. Week one, there will be plenty
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  of coverage on all of the Inside the Birds platforms,
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  all the different podcasts on Inside the Birds dot com.
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  I'll have another one for you tomorrow. You'll hear from
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  Jeff and Adam, and we have a ton of cool
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  stuff coming down the pike. We're just getting started and
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  week two is fast upon us.
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  Speaker 1: This has been to check O daily.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dcheco and I will catch you on the
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  next one,