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INTERVIEW: Ava DuVernay & Aunjanue Ellis-Taylor Speak On 'Origin' Film, Intentional Filmmaking + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 2: That's right. I feel bloods black and Holly favored. Man,
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  Speaker 2: happy to be here. I was riding in the work
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  Speaker 2: listening to a great podcast, one of my favorite podcasts,
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  Speaker 2: Channing Crowder, and they had Daz Brian on man such
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  Speaker 2: men just being vulnerable. Was he discussing oh everything, I
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  Speaker 2: mean his upbringing and you know, his issues, not issues,
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  Speaker 2: but how he came up under his mother because you
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  Speaker 2: know his mother had him when she was thirteen. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, he was just explaining that dynamic and
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  Speaker 2: his own family. Like it's it's just good. It's good
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  Speaker 2: to hear Dez Brian in such a great space.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I love a great conversation. That's a great conversation. So
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  Speaker 2: Club of course this morning.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, all right, well we got some special guests joining
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  Speaker 7: us this morning, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Yes we do. Speaking of some great storytellers.
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  Speaker 7: We have areny Ellis, Aulis Elis and AVD. They'll be
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  Speaker 7: joining us Origin New Flip premiers January nineteenth in Selected,
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  Speaker 7: so we can be talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I've had the privilege of already seeing Origin. Let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you what Origin is based on. If you've ever
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  Speaker 2: read the book Cast, great book by Isabel Wilkinson read
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  Speaker 2: it a few years ago. It's based off this book.
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  Speaker 2: When I when I when I heard that they were
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  Speaker 2: doing a movie based off this book. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: how are they going to make a movie based off Cast?
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  Speaker 2: Like if it's not a documentary because the book is
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  Speaker 2: just full of facts and research. But she did it
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  Speaker 2: through the lens of Isabelle Wilkinson getting the idea to
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  Speaker 2: write the book Cast and the process of her writing
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  Speaker 2: the book. And that's who Agnew plays. She plays Isabelle
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  Speaker 2: Wilkinson in the movie. Correct. Yes, so we'll be talking
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  Speaker 2: to them this morning.
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  Speaker 7: Correct, And like you said, it's it's based off I guess,
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  Speaker 7: different things that happened in the past, what six seven years?
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  Speaker 6: No, what she researched? No, what was it?
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  Speaker 2: The book is what cast?
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  Speaker 6: What is the research on?
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  Speaker 2: It is based off the system that we live in
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  Speaker 2: and how how how the system of race was developed
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  Speaker 2: in the country in America.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, yes, all right, so we'll we'll discuss with them.
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  Speaker 7: And I said six years. I'm bugging because they go
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  Speaker 7: way back to slavery days, they go to the Holocaust.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it waspired, it was sparked. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: the idea was sparked by death for Trayvon Martin.
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  Speaker 7: Correct, Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. Because well, all right,
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  Speaker 7: well we'll kick it with them in a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: But let's get to some front page news. When we
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  Speaker 7: come back, Teslain, figure out will be joining us.
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  Speaker 2: They don't move.
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  Speaker 6: It's the breakfast club. Come morning morning everybody.
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  Speaker 7: It's DJ Envy Charlemagne the God. We are the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 7: Let's get in some front page news. Morning tis good morning,
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  Speaker 7: Happy Wednesday. DJV Charlemagne the God said, let's jump right
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  Speaker 7: into it.
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  Speaker 6: Let's talk Nicki Haley.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Once again, it wouldn't be campaign season if nobody was
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  Speaker 8: bringing up slavery and racism. So Nicki Haley was asked
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  Speaker 8: on Fox News if she belonged to a racist party,
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  Speaker 8: but she answered about racism in America.
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  Speaker 4: Take a listen.
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  Speaker 2: Are you a racist party?
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  Speaker 9: We're not a racist country, Brian. We've never been a
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  Speaker 9: racist country. Our goal is to make sure that today
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  Speaker 9: is better than yesterday. Are we perfect?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 5: I know I face.
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  Speaker 9: Racism when I was growing up, but I can tell
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  Speaker 9: you today is a lot better.
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  Speaker 2: Than it was then.
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  Speaker 10: Now.
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  Speaker 8: Her campaign affirmed her statement and said that America has
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  Speaker 8: always had racism, but America has never been a racist country.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit contradictions.
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  Speaker 8: If you've always had racism how can it not be
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  Speaker 8: a racist country?
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  Speaker 2: You know what's so interesting about that? Uh, that that
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  Speaker 2: that whole exchange. We've heard that before, you know, Senator
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  Speaker 2: to Tim Scott, you know, said that a few years ago.
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  Speaker 2: And guess who agreed with him, Vice President Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 2: Guess who also agreed with him, My OLG Jim Clyde Burn,
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  Speaker 2: And I remember Vice President Kamala Harris saying that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: America's not a racist country, but we need to talk
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  Speaker 2: openly about the racism in America. So it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: the same rhetoric.
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  Speaker 6: It's a racist country.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's dub but I'm just saying how it's
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  Speaker 2: just the same rhetoric I just doing. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: just it's just strange to me how we don't hold
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  Speaker 2: you know, everybody to the same level of account of accountability,
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  Speaker 2: because the problem is, no politician knows how to talk
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  Speaker 2: about race honestly in this country, none of none of them,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of what side there on. That's right.
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  Speaker 8: And my confusion is every year, like, come on, candidates,
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  Speaker 8: let's get it together. That should be the first thing
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  Speaker 8: in training, shout out to my training and push the
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  Speaker 8: line training and we trained about five hundred people every
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  Speaker 8: year to run for office. Maybe they just need to
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  Speaker 8: start knowing how to answer this question right out the gate.
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  Speaker 8: Ron de Santis also was asked about her comments on CNN,
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  Speaker 8: and this is what he had to say.
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  Speaker 2: Do you agree that the US has never been a
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  Speaker 2: racist country?
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  Speaker 11: Well, the US is not a racist country, and we've
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  Speaker 11: overcome things in our history. You know, I think the
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  Speaker 11: founding fathers they established a set of principles that are
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  Speaker 11: universal now. They may not have been universally applied at
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  Speaker 11: the time, but I think they understood what they were doing.
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  Speaker 7: I don't understand why people are mad, are scared to
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  Speaker 7: say it's a racist country. Of course, it's not back
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  Speaker 7: where when my dad was in school where he had
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  Speaker 7: to use different bathrooms in different water fountains.
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  Speaker 6: But it's still a racist country.
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  Speaker 2: Like listen, nobody talks about race honestly when the elected
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  Speaker 2: officials don't talk about race honestly because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Republicans are racists and Democrats are just afraid to talk
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  Speaker 2: about race. Democrats. Democrats advocate for, you know, anti racist policies,
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  Speaker 2: but then don't turn around and say things like America
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  Speaker 2: is not a racist country because they're afraid to turn
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  Speaker 2: off these hypothetical, imaginary swing voters.
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  Speaker 8: And just to be clear, is we know there's some
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  Speaker 8: racism going on in the Democrat Party as well, but
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  Speaker 8: it's about the overtly racist racism that you see on
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  Speaker 8: the other side of To make sure you put that
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  Speaker 8: point out there now.
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  Speaker 2: It bothers me, like when I when I hear somebody
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  Speaker 2: like Nikki Haley say that, I expect that from Republicans,
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  Speaker 2: like it bothers me more when I hear Democrats say
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  Speaker 2: things like that, because you can't lay out all these
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  Speaker 2: examples of systemic racism and then turn around and say
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  Speaker 2: America isn't a racist country because you just dismissed your
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  Speaker 2: own position.
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  Speaker 12: Sure.
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  Speaker 8: Sure, but again, like you said, they're trying to make
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  Speaker 8: sure they piss up, they don't upset right that are
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  Speaker 8: not voting for you, and keep telling you over, oh
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  Speaker 8: they're not voting for you. Doctor Ben Carson also he
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  Speaker 8: chimed in this week in Iowa letting everybody know that, hey,
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  Speaker 8: we shouldn't be ashamed about America's history.
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  Speaker 4: So take a listen to that.
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  Speaker 13: If there's anything unique about the United States and slavery
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  Speaker 13: that we had so many people who were vehemently opposed
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  Speaker 13: to it that we fought a bloody civil war to
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  Speaker 13: get rid of the evil institution. And that's what we
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  Speaker 13: should teach our children. Our history is nothing to be
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  Speaker 13: ashamed of. There's good, there's bad, and there's ugly, as
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  Speaker 13: there is in every society inhabited by human beings, which
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  Speaker 13: is why we need a savior.
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  Speaker 2: If you are a Republican, our Democrat, if everybody in
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  Speaker 2: the Republican Party was unified and they all collectively said
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  Speaker 2: America is a racist country and it's our job to
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  Speaker 2: fix it, or if everybody in the Democratic Party was
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  Speaker 2: unified and they all collectively said America is a racist
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  Speaker 2: country and it's our job to fix it, it wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be an issue, and it would be an honest conversation.
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  Speaker 2: But folks are scared to do that because they know
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  Speaker 2: nobody in the party will have their back. If a
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  Speaker 2: Republican says that they know nobody in the party won't
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  Speaker 2: have their back, if a Democrat says that they know
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  Speaker 2: nobody in the party don't have their back.
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  Speaker 8: I wanted to just say again on Ronda Sanders, did
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  Speaker 8: you hear them say it's universal of the founding fathers
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  Speaker 8: meant for it to be universal, but it wasn't universal.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, I'd be tuning in
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  Speaker 2: Rond de Santas out that's who you was playing it
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  Speaker 2: before being Yes, I heard Ben, I didn't even I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even hear it run at all. I can remember
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  Speaker 2: Ben saying we need to save you. I didn't hear
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  Speaker 2: Ron at all. All right, that is front page news.
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  Speaker 2: Now what are we talking about? Next hour?
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  Speaker 4: Test, next hour, we're gonna talk about AI Charlamagne.
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  Speaker 8: You mentioned many many times how AI will be spreading
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  Speaker 8: misinformation during the campaign, and they said they're gonna do
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  Speaker 8: something about it. And then just a quick update on
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  Speaker 8: the IRRIS and getting your taxes ready.
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  Speaker 7: All right, Well we'll see in a little bit. Everybody else,
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  Speaker 7: get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't ray ray yo, charlom man yady?
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  Speaker 12: What up are we lying?
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  Speaker 2: This is your time to get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 1: I got an indoor pool, out door pool.
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  Speaker 2: We want to hear from you on the breakfast club.
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  Speaker 14: Get on the phone right now here.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, who's this DJ? Every what's going on?
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  Speaker 12: It's this front page?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, front page?
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  Speaker 2: Oh what up?
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  Speaker 6: Get it off your chest?
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  Speaker 5: Bro?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, man, real quick?
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  Speaker 12: What up? Charlot Man?
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  Speaker 2: Pee's king pace King?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, real quick. I'm a truck out here in these streets, man,
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  Speaker 1: So so this one right here is for the professional drivers. Hey, look, man,
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  Speaker 1: in the name of Diddy, we gotta stop the daddiness
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  Speaker 1: out here because his what's happening. You're a professional driver,
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  Speaker 1: and I got a lot of pedals in my truck.
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  Speaker 1: That means I go faster than the average. If a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these guys are locked off at sixty five
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  Speaker 1: or sixty three miles an hour, eat that. Take it
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  Speaker 1: up with your company. But don't throw your body in
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  Speaker 1: the lane of a flying down the line here. That
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  Speaker 1: was sound critical, Solomon. I know you always to plain
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  Speaker 1: it the truck is, don't drive it like it's a Lexis.
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's the best
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  Speaker 1: interest we keep it moving.
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  Speaker 2: And no, I do not like y'all driving trucks like
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  Speaker 2: their cars and and and by the way, if y'all
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  Speaker 2: was actually paying attention to other people on the road,
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  Speaker 2: which I don't think y'all are. I think y'all hit
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  Speaker 2: those left turns and those right turns, and y'all expect
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  Speaker 2: us to see y'all and get out, y'all wall y'all
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  Speaker 2: ain't looking out for nobody else. I refuse to believe that.
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  Speaker 2: Not the way y'all drive impossible.
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  Speaker 1: We can clearly see everything. Three sixteen all over, We
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  Speaker 1: got this.
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  Speaker 6: I will say this just to keep it moving.
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  Speaker 1: I see a lot of guys get I want to
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  Speaker 1: dictate like traffic cop and get in the lane.
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  Speaker 2: I'm never doing that. I'm never I'm never doing that
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  Speaker 2: with a truck. But I just wish that y'all didn't
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  Speaker 2: treat trucks like they were just regular old priests.
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  Speaker 6: But people do too, though.
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  Speaker 7: People treat trucks like they don't exist in the truck
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  Speaker 7: and just hit the break dumb fast or something. Because
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  Speaker 7: I see people cutting trucks off and and and then
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  Speaker 7: trying to break check trucks and types of wild stuff,
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  Speaker 7: and I'm like, all right, all right, you think you're
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  Speaker 7: gonna win that battle.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you're not gonna win eighty thousand pounds up yallah
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  Speaker 1: with doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who's doing that. Whoever doing that
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  Speaker 2: is stupid, all right, but please stop driving your guy.
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  Speaker 1: Dad and Faith.
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  Speaker 12: It's just for you.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. Please don't listen to him.
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  Speaker 2: Stop driving your trucks like it's a regular car.
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  Speaker 7: Please get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight
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  Speaker 7: five one oh five one. If you need to vent,
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  Speaker 7: hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
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  Speaker 7: the Breakfast Club. Wait, this is your time to get
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  Speaker 7: it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one
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  Speaker 7: five one. You want to hear from you on the
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  Speaker 7: Breakfast Club?
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  Speaker 2: Hello? Is this this shot?
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  Speaker 6: What's up?
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  Speaker 2: Get it off your chest?
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  Speaker 12: So I've been the bust a rounder the DM for
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  Speaker 12: like a minute now, about a year, right, and I've
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  Speaker 12: been sending them some pizza that I've been making. I
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  Speaker 12: was just up to like five am yesterday sending them
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  Speaker 12: track after track after track. He replied, once ten a
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  Speaker 12: heart anohing came about it. Just send him some more tracks.
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  Speaker 12: He had to open it. I'm hoping maybe he here's this,
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  Speaker 12: you know, he opens it and what you're talking about?
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  Speaker 15: So you mad?
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  Speaker 7: You've been DM and busting rhymes beats and he hasn't
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  Speaker 7: opened up your DM, nor has he responded.
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  Speaker 12: No, he did the strong once because I did it
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  Speaker 12: about a year ago.
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  Speaker 2: What was his response?
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  Speaker 12: So he loved He was like, yo, I see what
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  Speaker 12: you're doing. I love it, but I missed understand the post.
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  Speaker 12: He went to work with artists, but it was more
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  Speaker 12: of a promotional type thing.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought he just wanted to like, well, maybe
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  Speaker 1: anybody I didn't have the money.
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  Speaker 6: But maybe listening to your beats and he didn't hear
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  Speaker 6: none that he liked so far.
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  Speaker 12: Maybe not, but hey, I'm still at it and I'm
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  Speaker 12: still sending them something I just wanted to hear it.
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  Speaker 12: Maybe maybe it was just the wrong time, Like.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think I think the last thing
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  Speaker 2: you said is true. Maybe it's just the wrong time,
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, you got to have a dj
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  Speaker 2: kalled level of annoyance. So yeah, if you feel like
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  Speaker 2: he's paying attention, keep sending them beats. But guess what
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  Speaker 2: if you send artist beats and they don't reply to
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  Speaker 2: you on social media, they don't have to like they
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  Speaker 2: don't have to.
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  Speaker 12: They might not like it. Sure I'm not mad about it, but.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe, but also you know it's you know, Buster might
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  Speaker 7: not be in his dms, but he has a bunch
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  Speaker 7: of people around it.
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  Speaker 6: Send it to splips, send it to his manager, send
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  Speaker 6: it to his A and R.
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  Speaker 7: Send it to everybody around us, send it to his DJ,
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  Speaker 7: send it to everybody in Buster. Because all you need
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  Speaker 7: is one person to hear it and say, Yo, that
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  Speaker 7: beat his dope. Let me let me give it the Buster.
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  Speaker 6: See if you like it.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you another question, why why Buster? Why
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  Speaker 2: why Buster? Why not reach out to some of these
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  Speaker 2: artists that's you know, young and on the come up,
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  Speaker 2: who might be paying attention, you know, the fresh beats
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  Speaker 2: and want some new beats like you know Busters.
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  Speaker 12: Buster runs. I'm sorry, but he is one of my
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  Speaker 12: favorite artists and always will be.
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  Speaker 2: I want that, so Busters on your bucket list. You're
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  Speaker 2: not trying, You're not really trying to get on. You
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  Speaker 2: just want Buster to hear your music.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, oh no, the goal, of course is to
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  Speaker 12: get on. I'm not This is nothing like I want
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  Speaker 12: an opportunity out of this.
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  Speaker 1: But now, if anything, if you just gave me an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity or just gave me some feedback or anything like that.
• 13:57
  Speaker 7: Wouldn't the world or do you hear Buster on your
• 14:00
  Speaker 7: He's how old are you?
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Brother? Okay?
• 14:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say keep doing it, And like Charlamaine said,
• 14:05
  Speaker 7: I would. I love Buster, but I would give it
• 14:07
  Speaker 7: to a bunch of different artists because you know what
• 14:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, you never know what artists are.
• 14:10
  Speaker 6: Like your beats or reply.
• 14:12
  Speaker 7: Or it will use your beats and then maybe that'll
• 14:14
  Speaker 7: get to you to your bucket list where you want
• 14:16
  Speaker 7: to work with Buster one day.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: You're right, was a brother? Or I appreciate you? Hello?
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: Who's this yo?
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: Yo?
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: It's Rico, Rico whatever, get it off your chest?
• 14:26
  Speaker 12: Hey, what's up?
• 14:27
  Speaker 16: Fellas? I just want your opinion on top me. Personally,
• 14:31
  Speaker 16: I do think that America is a racist country. It
• 14:35
  Speaker 16: started that way from the beginning. So I don't know
• 14:38
  Speaker 16: how they're saying that, but just to play devil's.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: A white, white devil's advocate.
• 14:44
  Speaker 16: Yeah, white devil's advocate. Let's go that route. You know
• 14:47
  Speaker 16: how if you go to a bar and they sell food,
• 14:50
  Speaker 16: they still consider at a bar, but it's not a restaurant.
• 14:54
  Speaker 12: What do you think?
• 14:55
  Speaker 16: What if that's the way they trying to air quotes
• 14:59
  Speaker 16: portray to that.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't really understand the analogy.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: If I'm being honest with you.
• 15:04
  Speaker 16: Sir, Like, like, all right, let's say you go to
• 15:06
  Speaker 16: a bar again. Next thing, you know, it's like a
• 15:09
  Speaker 16: corner bar or whatever. But they got like chicken wings
• 15:12
  Speaker 16: the center set up.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: The bar.
• 15:16
  Speaker 16: There's no racism in here, but there is racism in
• 15:19
  Speaker 16: the country.
• 15:21
  Speaker 7: Saying there's no food in the ball. There is food
• 15:23
  Speaker 7: in the ball. You don't, you don't know.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, right, my brother, My brother. Here's
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: the reason America is a racist country. America is a
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: racist country is because it's rooted in systemic racism. Like
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: like you got people every day waking up fighting for
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: racial equity, you know what I mean, Like and and
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: in every in every way possible. It's just it's systemic
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: racism and structural racism in the very foundation of America.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: It's not just that it's not just you know, a
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: person here or there who is prejudiced against black people.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: It is systemic and structural racism and the very foundation
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: of America.
• 16:00
  Speaker 16: Oh no, I absolutely believe that because that's how it
• 16:02
  Speaker 16: all started. Like we didn't voluntarily come over here.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I mean it's still going. It's in every industry. It's
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: in the healthcare industry, it's in you know, the judicial system,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: like it's it's literally in every industry.
• 16:16
  Speaker 16: Right, So that's what I'm so.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: It is the United States a racist country, is yes,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: And we've been having some long overdue awakenings on systemic racism.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: And you know, we're gonna keep fighting until we break
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: these these structures down.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: Get it off your chest.
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: Eight hundred five eighty five, one oh five one. If
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: you need the vent, you can hit us up now.
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: When we come back. We got to discuss did he
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: you know, did he was suing his uh liquor company, Diagio,
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: And it seems like they reached the settlement.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it when we come back. It's the
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. I love some
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: good drive by hate in the morning. Two thought got
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Brandon brand is one of our producers. Brand is a producer, right, yes,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: and you got on some comman Brandish.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: Hate him.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I walked by fast and hit him too. I just
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: hit him. And what you say, like Brandon got the
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: what kind of James and old Brandon. What kind of
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: he's leve eleven? Eleven? Is the white and black patent
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: leather eleven? Jay's right then the concourse, I walk by
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: and I go, you know them Jay's clean, but they fake.
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Faith, don't trying to show up for you guys
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: that don't know. You know, we used to work on
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: Canal Street, by Canal Street, and I guess that's where
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: you got them from, because they sell a lot of the face.
• 17:38
  Speaker 15: You know.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I can see the ass cracking his Jordan man. That's
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: how I know Jordan's and Jordan's got an ass cracking it.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: That's how I know they're not real. But they clean
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: though they look fresh, You stupid.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: Let's get to the rooms as talk Diddy, from my
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: from from my.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Names or you've gossip been when you chatting God? This
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: is the rumor report.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess we're on the breakfast club. This
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: is where the tea.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Spells right right now?
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: Did he and Dazio settled seven months after? Did he
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: accuse the Azio of racism and under investigation under investing
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: in his liquor brands? Now Dazio is the parent company
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: kind of like if you look at it like a
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: record label, like an artist signed to a record label.
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: So they usually handle distribution, they handle promotion, they usually
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: handle marketing, and did he was upset and saying some
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: of the other brands that they have they do more
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: for UH and they don't do the same for mine.
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: So they reached an agreement and yesterday Diazio said, mister
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: Colembs has withdrawn all his allegations about Diazio and will
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: voluntary dismiss his lawsuits against the Azio with prejudice. Dago
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: and mister Combs have no ongoing business relationship either with
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: respect to Sarak Vodka or De Leon Tequila, which Dazio
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: now solely owns.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: So did he have nothing to do with Sharak and
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Daily On anymore? Not anymore. So basically they either bought
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: him out or or settled the lawsuit based correct I
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: wonder if did he wasn't dealing with everything he's dealing
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: with right now where they have aid in business with him.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: I wonder no, because he was trying to get out beforehand,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: Remember he.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Was he trying to get out of Was he just
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: trying to you know, he get them the on of
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: they contract because if you don't remember, remember Hole did
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the same thing with Bacardi. But they're still in business together,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and Hove won his loss, you know what I mean.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: So I just I mean, I just wondered what.
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: This was before all that though, Remember before all that,
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: they wanted out, they were trying to find a way
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: out of it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You know, No, I don't think they were trying to
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: find a way out. He was just suing them, yeah,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was just sawing them. And then remember
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the their their response was, you know, even though you
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: know he's he's trying to turn a simple business dispute
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: into a claim of racism.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: But Hove was different, right, because Hove never claimed that racism.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: He just claimed that they were undervaluing his company and
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: they had to revalue the company, which is different than
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: saying somebody's being racist, especially in today's workplace, in today's business.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Two different approaches. I think they were both were trying
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to get to the same go though. Yeah, you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: but I just wanted I just wondered if did he
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: wasn't going through everything he's going through. Could they have
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: settled that and then still stayed in business together. I
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: Good question now, if you were looking forward to that
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: Drake and j Cole tour, well, it looks like you're
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: gonna have to wait a little longer. It's all a
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: blurred tour is being postponed over your Elie in the back.
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: You know, he's a huge Drake Faery so upset here
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: this morning when he walked in. It was supposed to
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: start January eighteenth in Denver, but now they're saying the
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: tour will now start on February second in Tampa Bay, Florida.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: February second, yep. Black History month, yep, yep. They should
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: both start in like the middle of Black Head. Shut up,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you're just half half way through half of black half
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: a Black History month. They just start, Oh my goodness.
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: And lastly, Charlamagne came in this morning talking about Dez Bryant.
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: He recently appeared on an episode of The Pivot Pot
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Power and they were having a conversation about breaking generational curses,
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: and this is some of the things that he was saying.
• 20:49
  Speaker 17: Let me read something it's been on my phone by
• 20:51
  Speaker 17: since I met y'all probably like.
• 20:55
  Speaker 15: To say, uh, break break generational curses. Quit yelling at
• 20:59
  Speaker 15: your kids before they go to bed. And inspect and
• 21:01
  Speaker 15: sleep well. Quit youlling your kids in the morning, right
• 21:04
  Speaker 15: after they wake up for school, inspecting to have a
• 21:06
  Speaker 15: good day. You set the tone for your children.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Set the tone.
• 21:10
  Speaker 15: Did you set the tone for your voice? They will
• 21:12
  Speaker 15: always remembering their heads. Do you become in the voice,
• 21:15
  Speaker 15: don't be there in the critic. Speak life, speak love,
• 21:19
  Speaker 15: speak bravery, kindness and hope, Speak wisdom, the truth. Most
• 21:23
  Speaker 15: of all, listen to your children. I never had none
• 21:26
  Speaker 15: of that. I get that to mine and that's my
• 21:29
  Speaker 15: number one proty. That's how I follow that. That's howt
• 21:32
  Speaker 15: breaking and now do it. I live it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I live it. Man, drop the clues bonds for Dez
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Brian flute to everybody at the pivot.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: You know Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor chanting crowded that that conversation.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever listen to the whole
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: thing yet, but it's so powerful.
• 21:49
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I always say, man, you got to remember, if you
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: didn't come from a healthy family, make sure a healthy
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: family comes from you. And I think that as a parent,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: you know, we all struggle with that. We had the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: conversation yesterday about you know, how do you discipline your
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: kids when you know, they run up ten thousand dollars
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: on your credit card or whatever it is. Like, I don't.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I don't spank my children in any way, shape or form.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: So you know, you do end up raising your voice
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: or are yelling sometimes, and you do never feel good
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: about that because you remember all of those times you
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: got yelled at, you know, when when you was young.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I don't call my kids names and all kind of
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: stuff like that, you know, but I definitely my parents.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: My dad definitely called me. I don't even remember that. Well,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I do remember what this tell us.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: One.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I think when you just call your kids stupid stupid,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You call your kids stupid,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, stuff like that can stick with them, you
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, especially especially when they're young. Like
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I think they can internalize that and you know believe that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So like everything he said is true, Like you know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: you want to be you don't want to be your
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: You don't want your child, your voice to be the
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: voice in your child's head. That's their inner critic.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I mean, I do think that you
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: have to discipline your children, but you in my family,
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: we explain why, just so they don't think that we're
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: just yelling for no reason or getting upset for no reason.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: But every night before my kids go to sleep, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: me and my wife, we kiss them, We love them,
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: We tell them how much we appreciate them, and we
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: have like most of the times, we do pray and
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: in the morning, you know, I know you do it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: You speak to your daughters every morning.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: I speak to my kids every morning before they go
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: to school, just to say, just to give them that
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: positive conversation before they leaving the day, that to always
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: let them know that that mommy and daddy loved them
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: and we got their back.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we forget that we're like the first
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: generation that has the luxury of actually healing, and I
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: think sometimes we forget. You know, a lot of the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: things our parents were going through and they projected a
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: lot of their issues on to us. So the pain
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and the hurt they might have been dealing with, they
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: projected on us. So you just got to make sure
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: you're not doing that. You got to make sure that
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever you're going through and your personal life,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: you're not projecting onto absolutely your children, which is very difficult.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: At times.
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: People are stressed out, there's so much going on in
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: this world, but you just got to remember that that
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: what you're going through, you don't want to push that
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: to your kids. And if your parents are still alive,
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: I would say, have those conversations to understand why. I mean,
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: six o'clock this morning, my dad texted me to make
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: sure I made it to work all right, because the
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: roads were icy and nasty. And he does that each
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: and every morning, to just make sure, and that gives
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: me that that positive feeling each and every morning.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: So I think we all got to remember the fourth
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Agreement for Don Miguel Ruiz, which is always do your
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: best and remember what Dad Brian said just now, like,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: go find that clip, write those words down, and you know,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: constantly repeat them to yourself if you're a parent, and
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: most importantly, like I always tell y'all, go do the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: work on yourself. Okay, Go go sit down with a therapist,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Go sit down with a psychiatrist. You know, go do
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: the work on yourself so you can deal with whatever
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: pain and trauma you got going on, so you don't
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: project that onto your children.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: All right, Well that is your rumor report.
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: Now when we come back, we got front page news
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: teslaing figure will be joining us, so don't move.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: It's to breakfast club.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Good morning, the breakfast club. Your mornings will never be
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the same.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: Morning, everybody, as t Charlomagne to God, we are to
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: breakfast club.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Let's get in some front page news. What up said?
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: What's going on?
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: DJ? And you?
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Good morning, Charlemagne to God.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: Let's jump right into it. Let's talk about chat GPT.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: So we've been talking about this.
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: We've been talking about AI and how misinformation will be
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: on the rise this year and particularly with elections in
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: the twenty twenty four election season. Now they have decided
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: to roll out a plan to prevent its tools from
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: being able to spread misinformation as voters prepared to cast
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: their ballots. It said it will ban people from using
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: the technology to create chatbots that impersonate real client, real
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: candidates are governments, to misrepresent how voting works, or to
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: discourage people from voting. It said that they will use
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: more research to get this done. They understand that it
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: will be very persuasive and powerful, and it will not
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: allow users to build applications for the purposes of political
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: campaigning or lobbying.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Starting early this year, open AI said it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: Will digitally watermark AI images that will be created so
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: that you'll be able to tell if it is an
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: AI image. This will permanently mark the content with information
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: about its origin, making it easier to identify whether image
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: that appears elsewhere on the web was created by an
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: AI tool.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I don't believe it. I got to see it to
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: believe it. I really do, because my thing don't believe
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: what they'll do it. I don't believe that they can
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: watermark the stuff because why don't Why don't they do
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: that now? With fake content?
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't. I don't think they can. I don't
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: think they can't either.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: There's so much fake content out there now, like literally,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: it's so much fake content. How come they can't water
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: market now?
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: And they have all these different things that they try,
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: like they try.
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: They have these machines that you could put into your
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: I guess a chat GPT type of forum where you
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: can see if something is real or not or you know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: there's things that you can tell if it's made up
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: or not. But you know, they'll find ways around it,
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: like they find ways around everything.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Not to mention, humans don't care. Humans will still take
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: some of those same watermarked AI stuff and presented as facts. Right,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I've already told you all the twenty twenty four you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: in twenty two for the presidential election here, the presidential
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: election in South Africa this year is gonna be so
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: full of misinformation. And I know for a fact, well
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I can't say I know for a fact, but I
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: personally believe none of that stuff is gonna work because
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: nobody cares about the truth and the live more entertaining,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: and folks are not searching for truth, They're searching for content.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: They don't care about what that content is. It does
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: as long as it gets them engagement. So I can
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: take those same watermarked ais and still present them. Who
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: gonna really be paying attention to the watermarks? Nobody?
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: But you know, it's the sad thing about it is,
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: even when.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: People look things up, sometimes what they're looking up seems
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: to be real and it's fake, so they think that
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: they're actually doing the research, but they're researching things that
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: don't exist or not sure, you know, which is difficult
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: and it's hard to really get it. It's almost gonna
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: have to get back to the old days of encyclopedia.
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: And I know somebody are like, what the hell's in encyclopedia?
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: But it's had to be something where you honestly know
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: it's real, because sometimes you google things and it's not real.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: No, that was the point I was gonna bring up.
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: Even if they water market with a big stamp across
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: as saying this is fake, they still just are still
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: gonna believe it because again, remember we talked about this yesterday.
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: People want something to believe in, even if that's a lie.
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: In addition that we know people don't read the entire article,
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: they read the headline. We know people don't read the caption,
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: They just look at the picture. So even with a
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: big watermark, I would like to see the watermark by
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: the way to at least try to do something. But ultimately,
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: will it make a difference if people want to believe
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: a lot?
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  Speaker 2: And what happens when somebody takes takes a video, right, Like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: somebody takes a video that we know is the truth,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Like it's literally a factual thing that we all know.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: But they take that watermark and put this is fake
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: on it. That's gonna make people be like you could
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: take that watermark and put it on anything that is
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: people gonna stop believing the watermark. They're gonna look at
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: the watermark and say that's fake. That's fake. I'm telling
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: you that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you'll be able to duplicate the watermark.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure, I promise you.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: Man, so Ald bad. At the end of the day,
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: it's still a gardener on my Wikipedia or you are.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: It's really over you. You can't put the two face
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: back into YouTube. It's really over. I'm telling you. I
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: don't feel like none of this is gonna work. But
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: hey man, I'm not mad at them for trying.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at least they's trying well.
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: I wanted to give a quick update on the IRIS.
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: Folks who getting a return, start getting ready to get
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: your taxes a return. Those who got to pay taxes
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: always wait to the last minute, but those who want
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: to get going. They will be accepting your IRS submissions
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: January twenty ninth, and I'm not going to start processing
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: that right away, but they will be accepting it. They
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: said that the annual incomes of people seventy nine thousand
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: are less will be able to file for free, so
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: they'll start getting that information out. And the agency said
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: it expects one hundred and twenty eight million individual tax
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: returns this year to be filed by the April fifteenth
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: tax deadline. Okay, and then one other random health study.
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: I haven't had a chance to do this in a while,
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: but I love this kind of stuff.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I'm a nerd.
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: Did you know that men are more forgetful than women?
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: It is a scientific fact. So I'm sure you guys
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: always ask your wife to remember different things? And wanted
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: to throw us out here that numerous studies dedicated to
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: comparing the memory abilities of men and women consistently prove
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: that men are more forgetful than women. A study publishing
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: the Quarterly Journal of Experimental Psychology hypothesize this is due
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: to the varying brain structures of men and women. The
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: hippo campus is a part of the brain associated with
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: the memory, and it decreases faster in men than women.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Are we really forgetful or we just pretend to forget?
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: Huh exactly?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: How would you say? If you're howya can't have?
• 30:17
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• 30:31
  Speaker 7: All right, when we come back on Janu, Ellis and Abaduvin,
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: they will be joining us the movie Origin for mens
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: January nineteenth.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: We're gonna talk to them all about it.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: So I don't think people realize how good this movie
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Origins is. If you've ever read the New York Times
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: bestselling book Cast by Isabel Wilkinson, Origin is based on
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the book Cast. Well, not based on the book, but
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: based on the book. We'll discuss.
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And we just have to say this. We have
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: to support our own like we have to support when
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: when we do these type of movies, we have to go.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: We have to support.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: What if we can't, we gotta buy a ticket.
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: You know, you're talking about Color Purple that came out
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: about a month ago. You talking about Book of Clarence
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: that came out what a week ago?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Is Everything you're saying sounds good, But these people ain't
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: gonna listen. These Negroes is not gonna listen. Okay. Color
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Purple made fifty five million dollars with one hundred and
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: forty million dollar budget. Uh Clarence had a forty million
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: dollar budget made three million dollars this weekend. The Negros
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: ain't listening.
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: We just talked how Beyonce, we we see we support
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: a Bionce.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Right, Oh, Beyonce ain't got no movie. Ro Renaissance. The
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Renaissance actually did better than both those movies. Damn all right,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Well we'll talk to them when we come back, and
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: don't move.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: It's to Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Morning.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Everybody is dj n V Charlamagne the guy.
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: We are the Breakfast Club. You got some special guests
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: joining us this morning. Yes, indeed, you have Ava Dune
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: and Andre day Ellis Taylor Welcome, I love and and
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: Teller welcome.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Good morning. How do y'll feel today? How y'all feeling.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Glad to be here with y'all?
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Black and blessed?
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: That's right, That's that's right, that's black and highly favored.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: We're talking about a new movie, Origin, which is in
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: theatres January nineteenth. It's based on the book Cast by
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Isabel Wilkinson. And I loved the book. I loved the movie.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: But when I heard you was doing a movie, Abe,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I had no idea how you was going to turn
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: it into a film. So what gave you the idea
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: that you used to make it?
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: Do?
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I call it a scripted narrative.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Trauma?
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Well, bring out how you heard about Cast? What made
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: you read the book Cast? First?
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I thought that was.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Oprah was really in my ear about this book. But
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: it was during the pandemic, and I was sad, you
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. And then it came out about
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: two months after the murder of George Floyd and I
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: just really wasn't trying to read a big old book.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: But she kept on me and kept on me, and finally,
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: maybe a few months later, I've read it and I
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: didn't quite understand it. Its thick, it's it's a big one.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: But there were some things in it that I that
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: were interesting. I just didn't agree with everything. So I
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: read it again to try to really understand it. And
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: by the time I got to that about the third time,
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: I said, I want to make a movie about the
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: reason why you're saying you didn't know how I was
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: going to turn it into a film, it's because it's
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: not a.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Story, no, it's facts, it's research. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: And so the idea was, will let me make a
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: movie about Isabel Wilkerson? The author as she's researching those facts,
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: and so that's what the great Andrea Ellis Taylor plays
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: is Isabel.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Well, when you watch the film, you can clearly see
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: why it's called Origins. But how did you know the
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: name needed to be changed?
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: I don't think people want to go see a movie
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: called cast. I don't even think enough people know what
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Cast is. I didn't, and so I'm just really trying
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: to bring people into some you know, information, some emotion
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: about things that we should be thinking about in this
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: country because it's so much easier not to talk about it,
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: and we need to be talking about it. Our freedoms
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: are slipping away. There's information that in history that is
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: being kept from us. There are secret arcs of what's
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: going on in our society, whole arcs beginning, middle and
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: ends that we are not aware of. And so a
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: lot of that is in her book and we tried
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: to bring it into the film.
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  Speaker 2: How much how did you spend with miss Walken, As.
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  Speaker 18: You know, I didn't spend any time with miss Wilkerson.
• 34:04
  Speaker 18: By the time that I became a part of the project,
• 34:08
  Speaker 18: Ava and miss Wilkerson had kind of developed a working
• 34:12
  Speaker 18: practice where she's just sort of said, Eva, you do
• 34:16
  Speaker 18: your thing. And when I became a part of the project,
• 34:20
  Speaker 18: I honored that. I respected that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Well, how do you embody her so well? Because you're
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: like one of the most passionate, thoughtful actresses on screen,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: but it really comes through in this film, So how
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: are you able to do that?
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 34:30
  Speaker 18: The great thing about her writing, and I recommend anybody
• 34:33
  Speaker 18: to actually read the book Cast, is that she she's
• 34:36
  Speaker 18: and you know this. You know, her writing is so transparent,
• 34:40
  Speaker 18: and there's blood in her words. You know, every every
• 34:43
  Speaker 18: pillar of Cast that she argues through, every every part of.
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  Speaker 4: The book she's in the book.
• 34:50
  Speaker 18: She builds her arguments from her own personal experience.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: So I looked at the book Cast.
• 34:55
  Speaker 18: When I was reading it when I got the part
• 34:57
  Speaker 18: as a memoir of miss Wilkerson. So I just use
• 35:01
  Speaker 18: that as my source material. And then I had a
• 35:03
  Speaker 18: great script that was asked.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: How were you able to get out of character? Was
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: it easy?
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: Because watching the film, I think anybody who watches it
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: will get so much emotion, right, it starts from the beginning.
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: You get emotion because it brings you back to that time,
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: to even a conversation when you're having with the plumber,
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: and it puts you in a situation where you're upset
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: and you're mad and you're angry. So how did you
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: get out of character? And how long did it take
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: you to get out of character when this film was
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: finally over.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I'm still in character. Really, I'm still in character.
• 35:29
  Speaker 18: I was talking to someone yesterday and they were asking
• 35:33
  Speaker 18: me about why I wanted to do it, and I said, well,
• 35:37
  Speaker 18: I feel like I have something in common with miss Wilkerson.
• 35:41
  Speaker 18: I don't have her brain, but I do feel like
• 35:43
  Speaker 18: I share her heart. I don't have Ava's brain or
• 35:46
  Speaker 18: her artistic abilities, but I do feel I share her heart.
• 35:52
  Speaker 18: And I feel like it's my mission, and that's why
• 35:54
  Speaker 18: I wanted to be wanted to be a part of it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: So I'm in this character every day.
• 35:58
  Speaker 18: The difference is is how Miss Wilkerson presents herself as
• 36:02
  Speaker 18: far different from the way that I'm far more passionate.
• 36:05
  Speaker 18: You know, at least I present more passionate than miss
• 36:07
  Speaker 18: miss Wilkerson does.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Miss Wilkerson is very withheld.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: And I am not very interesting that you say that
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: you feel like you don't have their brains, because you
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: feel like a symphony, right, like all of y'all are together.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know. She's the sister. Is an intellectually
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: rigorous partner, the most the most robust, muscular exchange of
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: ideas that I've ever had on any set with any
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: actor that I've ever worked with in fifteen years of
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: doing this, and I've worked with incredible people. But I'm
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: talking about let's dissect what we're doing, let's think about
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: it together, let's look at every line, let's really make
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: sure that our intention is coming through in every scene
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: and everything we do. And that kind of partner was
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: incredible to have, so so yeah, it was an extraordinary
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: experience with her.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: When you watch the film, you see Miss Wilguson going
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: through the whole creative process of the book. Do you
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: see yourselves in the movies version of Isabelle?
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. You know, when you're making a film,
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: you were on a singular journey. You're with a group
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: of people. It's like you feel like a tribe of
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: folks that are just kind of at war with you know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: fighting for a vision and fighting for something every day.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: And I feel like she she was doing that, but
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: she was alone, you know, she was alone in the world.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: She you know, in this film, we travel from you know,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: you'll see this black woman actress, you know, traveling the
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: world on an intellectual adventure. We're in Berlin, We're in
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: New Delhi, India. We are crisscrossing through seven different time periods.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: We are kind of on this globe trotting, globe spanning mystery, romance,
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: intellectual adventure. But we're all together. Isabelle Wilkerson was what
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: was by herself when she did it, and so just
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: the idea that we're able to chronicle and capture this
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: incredible feat done by this sister is something that was
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: an honor for us.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: What about you, Ozma, you see yourself in the film's
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: version for her?
• 38:04
  Speaker 18: Yes, I mean I feel like I feel I mean,
• 38:07
  Speaker 18: I feel that she writes for me. She writes my mind,
• 38:10
  Speaker 18: she writes my heart, she writes you know so much
• 38:13
  Speaker 18: that I did.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Not have the words for if that makes sense.
• 38:17
  Speaker 18: I knew that there was something at play here, but
• 38:20
  Speaker 18: I didn't know how to I didn't know how to
• 38:22
  Speaker 18: articulate it. And Miss Wilkerson gives us the words for it.
• 38:25
  Speaker 18: My experience being from rural Mississippi and understanding that these
• 38:30
  Speaker 18: statues and the flags.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: That they're not just ha giography.
• 38:33
  Speaker 18: They're not just oh, we're putting this up here for
• 38:35
  Speaker 18: our fallen heroes that they are. They are tools of intimidation.
• 38:40
  Speaker 18: And this is what Miss Walker, this is the work
• 38:42
  Speaker 18: Miss Wilkerson does. She calls it out, she calls the
• 38:44
  Speaker 18: thing for what it is, and so she writes what
• 38:47
  Speaker 18: I need, the words I need to know in order
• 38:49
  Speaker 18: to write for what I need to fight for.
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: We got more with Ava Duvinet and Angeu Ellis Taylor
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: when we come back.
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: Don't move this to Breakfast Club the.
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: Morning Morning everybody, it's DJ n V Charlemagne and the
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: guy we are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: with Ava Duvenet and are New Ellis Taylor, Charlamagne.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Is it true Ogs that you stood outside a movie
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: theater passing out postcards to promote Origin on the day
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: of Golden Glowa. Yes it did.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, sir, I did.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: And she's trying to go tomorrow too for extra postcards dedication.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: Yes, I sure did.
• 39:19
  Speaker 18: Absolutely. I'm not waiting for somebody to do it for me.
• 39:23
  Speaker 18: I want to do it myself. We don't have a
• 39:25
  Speaker 18: lot of money, right, we don't have millions and millions dollars,
• 39:28
  Speaker 18: millions and millions of dollars in promotional funds. If we're
• 39:31
  Speaker 18: on Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles and I've been there
• 39:34
  Speaker 18: for the last couple of days working on this, every
• 39:36
  Speaker 18: billboard is some incredible movie. We don't have that, So
• 39:42
  Speaker 18: we got to get the word out whatever where we cancel.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: First of all, thank y'all.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: For Lettings coming.
• 39:47
  Speaker 18: And yeah, I was outside that movie theater passing out
• 39:49
  Speaker 18: them postcards.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Ye man.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: That saddens me a little bit though, because I'm like, Yo,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: great films like this, great black films created by black people,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: black women. It should get the promotion in the market.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: And you think about everything that Taji has been saying
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: recently about you know, pay in the industry for women.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Who's faulted? That is it our fault for not supporting
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: these films like we should with our dollars, or like,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: who's fault.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Is that in general? In our industry? There it's it is.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: It is an interlocking puzzle of factors that put us
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: all in the places that we're in, and so to
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: ascribe it to one thing would be uh to reduce
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: a very very complex math that is generations old, and
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: and that, you know, I really feel we need to
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: solve for by getting together as a group of people
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: and and and and and trying to address everyone's different
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: issues and find solutions. But it's just not one thing
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: like that. The pay issue. It's a real issue, but
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: it interlocks with so much uh uh, so much history
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: within the studio system and within within Hollywood, within the marketing, distribution,
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: the exhibition, the you know, the casting, the production. I
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: mean it's layered. It's from you don't see you're not
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: seeing folks on sets in the positions where they're being
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: crew members. It's in the casting, it's in the executive ranks.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: It's in the marketing. It's in the promotion. It's in
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: the publicity, it's in the distribution. It's with the exhibitors,
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: you know, the actual theaters themselves and what they want
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: to play and what they think folks are coming in.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: So you know, it is it's a mess, uh And
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: yet we still make our art, and yet we still
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: tell our stories, and yet we still enter into this
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: and weigh it into it to try to enlighten, entertain
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: in power tell our stories. So whenever you see a
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: film like I love watching films late at night on
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: beet Let me tell you why they have one camera?
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Like it's just one camera, you can tell you know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: they ad two lights, you know what I mean? In
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: these movies they the makeup might not be quite right,
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: everything might be all right right, but you are seeing
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: someone with a voice trying to create something. And so
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, it's really hard for me to
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: criticize films because it's hard out there to make them.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: And I know that whenever I see someone in bear
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: witness of someone trying to do it, they are fighting
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: a battle that most people don't even know.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what makes it working for you as as a
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: working actress, Like if it's not, if it's not the financial,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: what makes it just work it for you?
• 42:22
  Speaker 18: It depends on what It depends on what it is.
• 42:24
  Speaker 18: You know, I'm gonna I'm not gonna say that. You know,
• 42:27
  Speaker 18: I'm above doing. I gotta pay. I got to take
• 42:30
  Speaker 18: care of people in my family that people who rely
• 42:32
  Speaker 18: on me, family and friends. So Halle Berry famously said
• 42:38
  Speaker 18: acting is is a I don't know what she said,
• 42:42
  Speaker 18: what she's trying to say. What she said was it's
• 42:45
  Speaker 18: a job. You know, it's not something you do for fun.
• 42:48
  Speaker 18: It's great if you can do it for fun, but
• 42:49
  Speaker 18: it's a job it generates income for for your life.
• 42:53
  Speaker 18: But when I had when you can converse these sort
• 42:55
  Speaker 18: of things of purpose and paycheck, like, that's what I
• 42:57
  Speaker 18: live for. And Origin is org is one of those
• 43:00
  Speaker 18: Origin is one of those places I believe. And I
• 43:03
  Speaker 18: cannot say this enough coming from Mississippi, where there is
• 43:06
  Speaker 18: an active move to redact black women, black people from
• 43:11
  Speaker 18: history books, from curriculums that is happening all over the South,
• 43:15
  Speaker 18: that if you can come inside a theater with some
• 43:18
  Speaker 18: popcorn in your hand, and Ava Duverney is offering Origin,
• 43:23
  Speaker 18: offering our history to us in places where we should
• 43:26
  Speaker 18: learn it, but we can't because there's an act.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: To remove us, to erase us.
• 43:32
  Speaker 18: And when I'm doing this kind of work, I feel
• 43:35
  Speaker 18: that it makes me want to get up in the morning.
• 43:38
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was going to ask, what do you want
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: people to get out of this film, because there's so
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: much to get right. I'm one of the scenes where
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: your mom in the movie and she's talking about you know.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: Maybe he should the boy should have just listened, right.
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: And the crazy thing about that is that's something my
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: dad would say, right, and he would say that because
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: he's looking at it is I just want you to
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: get home.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: But now, me being a far and I have two boys.
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: As a young man, you think about I don't care
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: what they say, I don't have to do this. But
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: now as a father, I think are the same thing.
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: I just want my kids to come home. And then
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: on another scene, you look at the love story with
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: the gentleman who was you know, dating a Jewish girl,
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: and you see his and you see what his heart meant.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: So what do you want people to get out of
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: this story?
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: The true message?
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: The true message is, you know, people come out of
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: this film, and we've shown it in different festivals and
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: things around the world, and people come out of the
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: film and they come Some people come up to me
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: and they're talking about grief and loss. Some people come
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: up to me and talk about the grandmother. Some people
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: come up to me and they're talking about, you know,
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: the scenes of the Holocaust or the slave ships. Some
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: people are talking to me about niece Nash and how
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: she made them laugh in the Black Family reunion scene,
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: or Audu McDonald or Blair Underwood or whatever it is.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: I don't want to define what people take out of it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: What I want to say is we are not defending
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: ourselves and we are not talking enough about what is happening.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: And I hope that this turns on people's desire to
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: want to read more, talk more, Google research, figure out
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: what is happening around us. When I talk about the
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: stripping of rights, this is an urgent call. There's so
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: many people making it, and I'm just a filmmaker, so
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: the only thing I can do is make films.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: That's what I do.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: And I'm asking you what can you do where you
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: are because we all need to alert ourselves, remind ourselves,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: orient ourselves to where we are and what is coming.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: There's going to be a change in this country. It
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: is going to be happening within the next year. And
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: if you're not aware of what those changes are, please
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: watch the film, or don't watch the film, watch read,
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: talk to whoever you need to talk to to get
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: up on the current state of events. And this is
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: an all out emergency. So that's why it was really
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: important for us to try to create something that instigates conversation.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: You come out and you're talking about it. That's the goal.
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: All right, will A'll go anywhere? We have more with
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: Ava Duvinet and Andrew Ellis Taylor.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: When we come back.
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: As the Breakfast Club, everybody J N. B.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Charlomagne to die.
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: We are the Breakfast Club.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: We're still kicking it with Ava Duvenet and Angre knw
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: Ellis Taylor, Charlomagne.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I thought it was incredible how you showed how Miss
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Wilkinson was inspired to write cast after the shooting of
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Trayvon Martin. And I know, mister Brina Fulton, his mother
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: has turned down a lot of people in regard to
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: putting that story on screen. So how did you convince her?
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: You know what I called that sister. I was so
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: nervous when I called miss Fulton. I called her and
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: she was like, girl, why are you so nervous to
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: talk to me?
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: I said, it is my first voice.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: Sound nervous. She said, yeah, your voice is shaken.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: She made me feel comfortable.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: We laughed.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: I told her what.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: I wanted to do and portraying you know, the final
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: night of her son's life, her son's Trayvon's life, and
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: she said, right there on the phone, do.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: It, wow, do it right there?
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: She said. She believed in the work, she believed in
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: my storytelling, and that she trusted me with the story.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: I said, do you want to come to the set,
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: do you want to see the script? Do you know?
• 46:58
  Speaker 19: Just do it?
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: And so she was it at my campus in in
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: Los Angeles. We we we keep a nice touch her
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: her other son came to see the film. I showed
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: her some clips of the film, uh, just so that
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: she could be aware, you know, before it was out.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: And and she's been a beautiful, beautiful advocate for this.
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: The telling of the story was that.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: The real nine one one call that is I was like,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: whoever did that? Boys, that's the.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: Real killer's voice on that On that call, you hear
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: his last words. So in the back when you when
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: in the film, when you hear the final nine one
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: one call that Zimmerman made, when he called when people
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: were calling the police on the scuffle outside, it's his
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: screaming in the back, and you know he's he's saying help,
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: you know. And and when we think about that case,
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: we think about Zimmerman, but you don't think about that
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: that that boy on the ground yelling help help help me.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: And so you know, it's important to give visibility and
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: press sense to his voice. And so in the film,
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: you don't just see what was done to him. You
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: see what he was doing before this man even walked
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: up to him. He was on the phone with his friends,
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: going gets some candy, talking on the phone, and he
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: was afraid.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: That stood out to me, like, yes, and yeah, think
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: about that in the moment you're in a neighborhood that's
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: really not your neighborhood. It's dark, and you feel like
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: you're being someone circling.
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you know you run because you want
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: to get away.
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: That's right, And so we show it from his perspective.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: It was the same thing with when they see us.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: You know, people mad about that, but the bottom line
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: is this is their story. You're mad about Selma. This
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: is the black people of Selma's version of the story.
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: This is when they see us. These are the Exonerates
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: five and their families versions of the story. And so
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: it's just like who gets to tell the story?
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Whose perspective?
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: There is this history and this news that you hear,
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: who gets to tell it? And you know what, I
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: just answer my question. Maybe that's why I'm not getting scripts, That's.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Why I don't judge, the old woman in the movie,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: or anybody who feels like that, because when I watched
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: that scene, I literally he said, don't run, brother, because
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: we're old. But we're older now, you know what I
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: mean when you were that age.
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean, when you were that age.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this man wasn't a police officer.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: And that's another thing. It's not a police to stand down.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: Yes, they told him stay where you are you to
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: do that? Yeah, but that's what that that that piece
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: in it is what got Isabelle Wilkerson from what she
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: told me thinking about the whole idea of cast because
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: she was like, wait a minute, this is a Latino
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: man stalking a black boy to protect a white neighborhood.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: That's not race. So everybody just puts that in the
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: box of race. And she was like, but that's not
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: race because because.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: The zimmer Men would have been in the same situation
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: if that was him in a different neighborhood, that's right.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: But also you have so so she's in there's something
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: more complex than this being raceed because you have all
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: of these different class elements, you know, ethnicities, you know, uh,
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: you know where the geography was. So she started to
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: think about, well, what is it? And that's what letter
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: to the idea of cast. So we opened the film
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: and you see Trayvon Martin in his life, in his
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: day before George Zimmerman is even around, and what he
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: was doing before, and it was important to humanize him.
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: I think that's the thing with when you're showing trauma
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: on screen. You can't show it as spectacle. You have
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: to show it as the emotion and the dignity of
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: the person who's been traumatized. And so when we open
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: the film, you open on him talking to his own
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: girl on the phone, laugh and doing their thing, so
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: that by the time he is assaulted, he's not just
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: a boy in the hoodie, you know what I mean,
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: you know, really specifically what was on his mind, what
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: he was doing, and a bit of who he was.
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: And that's that's so important when we're dealing with, you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: matters like this on screen. I'm sure, yeah, she saw,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: she saw the scenes that he was in. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: she saw the scenes.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Actually was I was there.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: She was. She had two friends with her, two a
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: family member and a friend, and they were both very emotional.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: But that sister is she was emotional but she she
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: was stoic about it. And she said, she said, yes,
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: that's right. And so you know, you imagine what a
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: what a mother goes through, and the way they have
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: to reserve their emotion and and and she was I
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: won't say strong because I hate I do not hate
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: that word, but I think it's overused. But she was,
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: you know, very, I think she was very. She was
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: very present in the moment as she watched it. It
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: was emotional, but she was processing it like analytically, like
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: a mom, like protectively, like okay, you can go do.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: That, you know.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: And I've really enjoyed, I really enjoyed each time we crosspath.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: The bottom line is our film will be out in
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: the world on January nineteenth, and if it is near you,
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: and it may not be near you, but I ask
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: you from my heart, if it is near you, you'll
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: have to find it because it will not find you.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: There will be very few commercials, there will be very
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: little promotions. You will not hear about it in your
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: face like you're hearing about everything else. I'm asking you
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: to look for it, to Google and see if it's
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: near you. I'm gonna cry Google and see if it's
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: near you, and if it is, please go or send
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: someone to go. And it's not for the box office
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: because I'll never see it. I'm not getting paid on
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: this film. I didn't get paid on this film, right.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: I put my money into the end of the film itself.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: The film's not gonna make enough money for me to
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: ever see any money back. Go to see it so
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: that it can do what the purpose of it was.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: Our intention was to bring us together to talk about
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: the things we need to be talking about, learn about
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: the things we need to learn, come out a little
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: bit more knowledgeable about some key things that might help
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: you in your decision making, because decisions will need to
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: be made and soon. And so please Google, check, reach Out,
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: find it, take someone that's my asset. There's anything I've
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: ever made that has entertained you, Queen Sugar, some wrinkle
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: calling in Black and White, thirteenth anything I've ever done.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: Please look for this because I think there's something in
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: it that will be worth your time.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: I see how many more labels of love do you have? Able?
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Because that's what it feels.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm tired you, Yeah, I'm tired.
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: Well, I was going to say I've seen Ben Affleck.
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: I seen Dave Chappelle do screenings. Yeah, Charluamonne, you want
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: to do a screening menu together episode, So we'll do
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: a screening easy, We'll get a theater here.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: I actually want to do it for some kids. I
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: thought about that last think if my daughter's fifteen, I
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I would love for her and her
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: her age group to see because it's such it's so education.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Then it's entertaining, of course, but it's also education.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: And you have something that you're doing for teens, right
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: sixteen Yeah, yeah, break that down.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: It's called seat sixteen and you can so you go
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: to seat seat sixteen one six dot com and you
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: can buy a ticket for a young person and for
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: sixteen dollars you buy a ticket, and then they also
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: get a year long subscription to Masterclass because I did
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: one of those master classes about how to how to
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: how I make the film, and and so for a
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: year they can go on and they can get a
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: masterclass and watch master classes and have an education about
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: all kinds of things for sixteen bucks. And the hope
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: is that we can, you know, get young people into this.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: So you can just go to this website and pay
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: for a sixteen year old ticket.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: And a person's ticket for sixteen bucks.
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, what's the side again? Sat? Sixteen sixteen dot com.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I promise if it means anything, that's doing that. I
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: think this is your best work, because you know, I
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: don't think you get to respect you deserve as a writer,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: you know, as much as you do as a director.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: But there's a lot going on in this film. When
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: you were able to take like the documentary style of
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: thirteenth and mix it with the narrative of when They
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: See Us, it just creates a great piece of work
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: called called Origin. Thank you, now you you phenomenally.
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: Body, that's right, body, thank you, all types of emotions.
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: Thanks well, Thank you guys so much. The movie January nineteenth.
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: Go check it out, go see.
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: It, go find it, find it.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, somewhere. We appreciate you
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: for joining its. Thank you so much. Thank you.
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: Morning all right, I was see Grizzly Chris Brown write
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: a scientist. Morning everybody, it's the j n V. Charlomagne
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Let's get to
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: the rumors.
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: Let's talk usher name or you gossip chatting.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Is the rumor report?
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess we're on the breakfast club this
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: weere the tea.
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: Spells right, yes now, we tried to report this yesterday,
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: but we had technical to difficulties yesterday yesterday because of
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: the mics went out. It was it was a problem,
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: but we were talking about Ussher.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 55:22
  Speaker 7: Of course USh is performing at the Super Bowl this year. Uh,
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: Charlemagne Dallas Cowboys won't be there, and.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Neither were your New York Giants. I told you shutters
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: won't be there. Neither were your New York Giants. You
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: are really delusional. You like self awareness? I hope you
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: know that.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: Like I said, Charlamage Dallas, I never thought my Dallas,
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: my Giants was gonna be there.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: I haven't known that.
• 55:44
  Speaker 14: No.
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: I knew the truth, and you should have known the
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: truth too.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Anyway, were twelve or five? But did you make We
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: made it to the playoffs? Said it every year, if
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: you get into the playoffs, you have an opportunity to
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: go to the Super Bowl. Playoffs. You said, every started
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: rooting for that guy because his name was the Veto
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: and he had an age that y'all thought was cool.
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Timmy to be tho, you're talking about whatever.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know, not right.
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: Well, anyway, last I was saying the super Bowl this year,
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: Good Morning America spoke to us about his performance and
• 56:11
  Speaker 7: at the fact that he's getting ready and if he
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: ever thought about this before.
• 56:15
  Speaker 18: Nine number one singles, over eighty million records worldwide.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: How do you possibly pack that into thirteen minutes?
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Where do you start?
• 56:24
  Speaker 10: I'll try to get back as far as I can
• 56:26
  Speaker 10: and go back to the first album if I could,
• 56:28
  Speaker 10: But you.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Know, literally thirteen minutes.
• 56:30
  Speaker 10: I think I just started by making certain that my
• 56:33
  Speaker 10: kids approved. I got my portion of it for you know,
• 56:36
  Speaker 10: for the thirty and up I got them.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but for my youngins.
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm asking Sinko and a Vid.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: I'm taking notes.
• 56:44
  Speaker 10: They've been like taking conference calls with my entire team
• 56:47
  Speaker 10: giving notes.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: When did you start rehearsing for the show?
• 56:50
  Speaker 10: Actually, you know what, I'm playing the Super Bowl the
• 56:52
  Speaker 10: first time as a support for the Black Eyed Peas.
• 56:57
  Speaker 10: Since that day, I think I had it in my
• 57:00
  Speaker 10: mind that I wanted to go back to the stage.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Usher, What is your favorite song to perform and why
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: is it? Yeah?
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Who said it was? You?
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: I mean I said it was Yeah.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: You think it should oh your favorite ye listen man,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: it was Kelly called by the way, sleuth. Kelly called
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: it dropping the clues bomb for Usher man legend.
• 57:16
  Speaker 15: But the bomb.
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  Speaker 2: This is a celebration of black music. It's a celebration
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  Speaker 2: of culture. This is Usher getting its flowers on the
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  Speaker 2: highest level. Like we've been on a journey with Usher
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  Speaker 2: since day one, right, like you remember the birth thought,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: you've seen Usher in the music video. It had to
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: be like twenty five years ago, right, at least, Yeah,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: because Confessions is twenty. I think Confessions tripping. Yeah, Confessions
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: came out in two thousand and four. The Confessions turns
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: twenty this year, so us have been around for at
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: least twenty five years. Absolutely at least excited to see,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, cannot wait bring the Script of Poles
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  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. Usher. If you've been to Usher's
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Vegas residency, you know how it goes when he brings
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: the Script of Poles out. The girls probably can't be
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: dressed the way they dressed Vegas, but you got to
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  Speaker 2: bring them strip of polls to the Super Bowl stage.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 7: Well, salute to Usha and also salute to ice Cube,
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: he received a Basketball Hall of Fame award named after him.
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  Speaker 20: Foot six rap star, film producer, actor, entrepreneur, and Big
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  Speaker 20: Three Basketball League co founder Ice Cube's in Springfield. Today,
• 58:19
  Speaker 20: the artists received the inaugural ice Cube Impact Award. The
• 58:23
  Speaker 20: award recognizes ice Cube's remarkable contributions to basketball and his
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  Speaker 20: commitment to fostering dialogues on inclusivity and equal opportunity.
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  Speaker 21: So it's an award that we you know, I get
• 58:33
  Speaker 21: the first one, but we're gonna give it out every
• 58:36
  Speaker 21: year to people who've made a positive impact using a
• 58:39
  Speaker 21: game of basketball. So I'm out here because you know,
• 58:43
  Speaker 21: it's a huge honor for me, and it's great to
• 58:47
  Speaker 21: be able to interact with the community as well.
• 58:50
  Speaker 20: Today's award presentation took place at the Basketball Hall of Fame.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: I love it dropping include Bond's ice Cube. I'm shocked
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: the NBA haven't bought the Big Three yet. Me too,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: only because like the Big Three scratches out the life
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: span of like some of their greatest players. Like think
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: about a Big Three uh game at the All Star weekend?
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: You know where you go? You can go get the
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Tracy mcgrady's and Alan Iveson's and you know.
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  Speaker 6: Kevin gardext mellow Anthony.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Carmelo Anthony. They playing against each other, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just I'm just I'm just shocked
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: they haven't a bought the Big Three.
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: But it also gives players an opportunity who were in
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: the league that think they can still play, to show
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: that they still play, you know, outside of the G League,
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: and people.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: We still want to see, right, you know, there's people
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: we still want to see. There's people that just you know,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: hung it up, like like a Carmello. You STI wouldn't
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: want to see him out there. Absolutely, you know, I'm shocked.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you will at some point, but I'm just
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: shocked they haven't already. And that the price I'm only
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: gonna keep going up, I mean for the Big Three. Yes,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: oh absolutely, yeah, that is your rumor report. Now who
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: are you giving that? Duncan two? Man, I need a
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Nicki Haley to come to the front of the congregation.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: We'd like to have a word with her.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, we'll get into that next.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Don't move. It's the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 6: Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Your mornings will never be the same.
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  Speaker 9: This is a miracle, there is no question, and there
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 9: are problems in this country between police and community.
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  Speaker 11: Yes, you are a donkey to the latest on that
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  Speaker 11: police killing of a black man.
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  Speaker 6: Now the new developments in the deathinely spots shooting rampase.
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  Speaker 2: Then yesday, it was a really bad day for him
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  Speaker 2: and this is what he did.
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  Speaker 18: And so we are in a state of emergency.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, White supremacist violence, it is always have been the
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  Speaker 2: number one threat to our society.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm also very proud that my wife was white.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: It's a practice club bitches sorright, Brenning, Please tell me
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: why was I your donkey of the day. Well, donkey
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: today for Wednesday, January seventeenth goes to Republican presidential candidate
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: didn't form a governor of South Carolina, Nicki Haley. I've
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: had the opportunity to have a conversation with Nicki Haley
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: when I Guess hosted The Daily Show last November. I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: had her on. I've also said repeatedly, I personally believe
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: the Republican Party should move away from Donald Trump and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: the ninety one criminal charges to impeachment. That's the host
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: of other bs he brings to the table that's an understatement.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: By the way, the GOP needs to move away from him,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: get behind Nikki, but they won't because the white supremacist
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: party doesn't really want to Indian American female representing them.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I don't believe anyway. And the GOP, if you know
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: they can get Trump back in the office, are so close.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: They're really taking over and punishing who they hate. Why
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: would they give that up now? But those aren't the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: reasons we are gathered here today. We are gathered here
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: today because Nikki Haley is in the news this week
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: because she is the latest American politician to say America
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  Speaker 2: is not a racist country. Her statement was, America has
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: never been a racist country, which is complete malarchy. Cap
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: As the kid say, let's listen, are you a racist party?
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  Speaker 9: We're not a racist country, Brian. We've never been a
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  Speaker 9: racist country. Our goal is to make sure that today
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  Speaker 9: is better than yesterday. Are we perfect?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 9: I know I face racism when I was growing up,
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  Speaker 9: but I can tell you today is a lot better
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  Speaker 9: than it was then.
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  Speaker 2: Cap. That wasn't even the question question was are you
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  Speaker 2: a racist party? But Nikki said America has never been
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: a racist country. But then she turned around and said
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  Speaker 2: she has experienced racism. That's because there can be systemic
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  Speaker 2: racism without racist Let's discuss. Listen, y'all. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why we have to say this ever so often. With
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: a quick reminder, America is a racist country. I think
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: we forget that. Racism isn't always explicitly visible, it's not
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  Speaker 2: always you know, conscious, But in America, what racism absolutely
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: is and always has been, it's systemic and structural. Remember
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  Speaker 2: when the great black philosopher, father of Blue Ivy said,
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  Speaker 2: and you can try to change, but that's just the
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  Speaker 2: top layer. Man. You was who you was for you
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: got here. That's America, regardless of how the top layer changes.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if Oprah is the richest woman in the
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  Speaker 2: world of Barack Obama was president, that's just top layer stuff,
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  Speaker 2: the root the foundation of this country. It's systemic and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: structural racism. It's deeply embedded in systems, laws, written, the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: unwritten policies, these racist practices and beliefs that produce and
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: perpetuate widespread unfair treatment and impression of people who are
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: at the bottom of this cast system in America. Okay,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: and those people are black, brown. It is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Why do we act like this isn't a thing? Okay,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: America was never a racist country. How many examples do
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  Speaker 2: you need right now? We don't even got to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: get in the DeLorean and go back to slavery or
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: the Jim Crow South. We can talk about residential segregation
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: right now, Unfair lending practices and other barriers, the home ownership.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: We could talk about, you know, the unfair barriers, the
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: accumulating wealth and environmental injustices, bias policing and sentencing a
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: black men and black boys, voter suppression policies. There's a quote,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: and the quote is those who cannot remember the past
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: are condemned to repeat it. And when people say things
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: like America is not a racist country or it's never
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: been a racist country, that's them trying to not remember
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: the past. And that is exactly why systemic racism continues
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: to permeate all sectors and areas of society. Okay, saying
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: things like America is not racist country or America has
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: never been a racist country is why we have never
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: truly fixed systemic racism. Because acknowledging the existence systemic racism
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: is the first step. All Right, you can't hear what
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  Speaker 2: you don't reveal, and we're not gonna ever heal because
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: there is not a politician who truly wants to be
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  Speaker 2: honest about it. This isn't the first time I've given
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  Speaker 2: the biggest heat heart of someone for making these types
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  Speaker 2: of statements. Oh no, no, no, no. See back in twenty
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  Speaker 2: and twenty one, just three short years ago, my South
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  Speaker 2: Carolina brethren, Senator Tim Scott delivered the GOP response to
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Biden's first joint address in Congress, and he said this,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: hear me, clearly, America is not a racist country. Camp Well.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: That statement, for the next few days caused the media
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: to ask every person of color, okay, every black and
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: brown person who was in government, whether or not they
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: thought America was a racist country. They asked, you know
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: more of my South Carolina brethren, my ol G, Jim Cliber,
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  Speaker 2: and I love Jim Cliber, and I hope this doesn't
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: get my invite to Jim clyde Burns world famous fish
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  Speaker 2: friary boat this year. But they asked my og and
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  Speaker 2: he said, this.
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  Speaker 3: A racist country would never elect of Barack Obama president
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: or Kamala Harris vice president. So we should stop arguing
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: about whether or not this is a racist country.
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  Speaker 13: It is not.
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  Speaker 2: Cap. They also have Vice President Kamala Harris, is America
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  Speaker 2: a racist country?
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  Speaker 19: And she had this to say, Well, first of all, no,
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  Speaker 19: I don't think America is a racist country, but we
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  Speaker 19: also do have to speak truth about the history of
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 19: racism in our country and its existence today.
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  Speaker 2: Cap Nicki Haley Republican, Tim Scott, Republican, Jim Clyburn Democrat,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, Democrat, all saying America is not, or as
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Nicky said, never has been a racist country. Every single
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: one of those statements is just simply not true on
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: any level, absolute falsehoods Okay, the Vice President of Kamala
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Harris said America is not a racist country, but the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: nation must speak the truth about his history with racism
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: in this country. Speaking the truth about the history of
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: racism in this country is acknowledging that, yes, America systemically
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: and structurally is a racist country. Okay. Saying this country
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  Speaker 2: isn't racist because they elected President Obama and you know,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Vice President Kamala Harris is not accurate. Everybody in this
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: country isn't racist, Okay. I believe people aren't inherently racist.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: But once again, this country, this system is rooted in
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: structural and systemic racism. The irony of og Jim Clydburne statements.
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  Speaker 2: They are actively trying to prevent us from ever having
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: another President Obama now through voter suppression. And we can't
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  Speaker 2: even begin to discuss the impact of voter suppression on
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  Speaker 2: black communities. We're talking about, guess what, America being racist.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: And we're not even gonna get into the electoral colleges
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: racist origines. Okay, I'm not smart enough to discuss that,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: but once again, you can't talk about that without talking
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: about America being a racist country. All right, listen, here's
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: what it is. Regardless of party. Nobody talks about race, honestly,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: because when it comes to Republicans, racism is part of
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: the GOP's ideological DNA. And when it comes to Democrats,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: they just get it. They just shift to death. That's
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: why I call them colwviarcis. Okay, Democrats advocate for anti
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: racist policies, but then turn around and say America is
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: not a racist country. It's stupid and all because they
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: are afraid to turn off hypothetical, imaginary swing voters. This
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: is why people think Democrats are full of it, because
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: when Republicans are telling their base their truth all the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: time and Democrats are dancing around okay everything, Republicans look
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: honest and Democrats look like lias. I know it's strange,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: but that's why knowing how to communicate is important. And
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: you will never win people over looking like you're lying. Okay,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Republicans are more honest with their lives than Democrats are
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: about their truth. I repeat, Republicans are more honest with
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: their lives than Democrats are with their truth. Democrats in
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: regard to the racism and a lot of other things,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: but in regard to racism, especially in light of what
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Nikki Haley just said, DIMS need to lean into some difficult,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: honest conversations about racing this country. You will win some
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: people over and you will lose some people, but anything
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: is better than what y'all are doing right now. Okay,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: But I don't want to make this about DIMS, because,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: as I said earlier, regardless a party, no politician has
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  Speaker 2: conversations about race honestly in this country. But one more
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: thing for Democrats, all right, you can't lay out all
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: these examples of systemic racism and then turn around and
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: say America isn't a racist country. You just dismissed your
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  Speaker 2: own position. Okay. If the Democratic Party was unified and
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: they all collectively said America is a racist country and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: it's our job to fix it, it wouldn't be an issue,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: and it would be honest. But folks are scared to
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: be honest. Okay. Folks are scared to be honest because
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: they know nobody in the party will have their back.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: And if you were honest, you would really show the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: glaring difference between yourself and Republicans. Okay, in regard to
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: the racism. But in regard to the racism, you all
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: are saying the same thing, and that is deeply disappointing.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: It is deeply disappointing to listen to all of these
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: people try to either deny or oversimplify racism. Okay, to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: either deny or oversimplify America being a racist country, or,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: in the case of Nikki Haley, saying America was never
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: a racist country to begin with. Please give Nicky Hally
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  Speaker 2: the biggest he m all right, well, thank you for
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  Speaker 2: the donkey today.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, indeed, now let's open up the phone lines eight
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  Speaker 7: hundred and five eight five, one oh five one. This
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  Speaker 7: morning in the room, as we tell you a story
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  Speaker 7: about Dez and Brian. He was on a Pivot podcast
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  Speaker 7: Fantastic convers talking about breaking generational curses.
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  Speaker 6: This is what he said.
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  Speaker 17: Let me read something. It's been on my phone for
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 17: five something at y'all probably like.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 15: Just say break break generational curses. Quit yelling at your
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 15: kids before they go to bed and inspect and sleep well.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 15: Quit yelling at your kids in the morning, right after
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 15: they wake up for school, inspecting to have a good day.
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  Speaker 15: You set the tone for your children. You set the tone.
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  Speaker 15: Did you set the tone for your voice? They will
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  Speaker 15: always remembering their heads. You become in the voice. Don't
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 15: be there in the critic. Speak life, Speak love, spreak bravery,
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  Speaker 15: kindness and hope. Speak wisdom, the truth. Most of all,
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  Speaker 15: listen to you with children. I never had none of that.
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  Speaker 15: I get that to my man. That's my number one priorty.
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  Speaker 15: That's how I followed that. That's how it break you
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  Speaker 15: and now do it.
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  Speaker 2: I live it. I live it. I want I encourage
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: everybody to go listen to that episode of the Pivot
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: with uh you know Dad's Bryant, but you know. I
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: really just want to know when you hear that, When
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: you hear those words coming out of Daz Bryant's mouth,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: how does it make you feel as a parent, not
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: even just a parent, How does it make you in
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: a child feel?
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  Speaker 7: What do you feel when you hear those words? I
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  Speaker 7: will discuss when we come back. Eight hundred and five
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  Speaker 7: A five one oh five one.
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  Speaker 6: Let's talk about it. I just the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Com on the Breakfast Club. It's topic time eight hundred
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  Speaker 2: five five five one to join into the discussion with
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  Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning everybody. It's DJ n V Charlamagne the God.
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  Speaker 7: We are the Breakfast Club. If you're just joining us.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: During the earlier rumor.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 7: We were talking about Dez Brian, he was on a
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  Speaker 7: Pivot podcast with Ryan Clark chatting Crowder and Fred.
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  Speaker 2: Tayl us Loo. To my guys, man, sleute everybody over
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  Speaker 2: there at the Pivot man, love what they do. One
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite podcasts to listen to. They. I told
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  Speaker 2: Ryan it's a long time ago. I think I said
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: that when I even did the Pivot, Like they really
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: have created a safe space, you know, for men to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: go and be vulnerable, you know, if you've ever seen
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: like the Michael Beasley conversation, or you know you saw
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: the recent deaz Brian conversation, you know what I'm talking about.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 7: Well, he got a chance to talk about breaking generational curses.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: And this is what des Brian said.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 17: Let me read something it's been on my phone by
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 17: since I met y'all probably like.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 15: To say, break break generational curses. Quit yelling at your
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 15: kids before they go to bed and inspect and sleep well.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 15: Quit yelling at your kids in the morning right after
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 15: they wake up for school, inspecting to have a good day.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 15: You set the tone for your children. Set the tone.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 15: Did you set the tone for your voice? They will
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 15: always remember in their heads. Do you become in a voice?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 15: Don't be there in the critic. Speak life, Speak love,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 15: spreak bravery, kindness and hope, Speak wisdom, the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Must of all.
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  Speaker 15: Listened to your children. I never had none of that.
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  Speaker 15: I get that to mind, and that's my number one priority.
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  Speaker 15: That's I followed that. That's howt breaking and now do it.
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  Speaker 15: I live it.
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  Speaker 2: I live it.
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  Speaker 7: So we're opening up the phone lines eight hundred five,
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  Speaker 7: eight five, one oh five one, just talking about what's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 7: your thoughts after hearing des Bryant talking about how he
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  Speaker 7: feels about his kids and probably uh how much trum
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: it probably brought back to him because he probably was
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 7: yelled at before he went to sleep, He probably was
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: yelled at before he went to school and college, he
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 7: said to him, and how it's affected him throughout his life.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, man, listen. It reminds me of the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: statement if you didn't come from a or a quote,
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  Speaker 2: if you didn't come from a healthy family, make sure
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  Speaker 2: a healthy family comes from you. Everything Dad said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: hit home, you know, not just hit home, you know
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  Speaker 2: because because because because what my inner child you know
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  Speaker 2: felt when he said those words. But you know, it
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: hit home, you know, me being a parent now, which
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  Speaker 2: is why in those moments when I do fall short
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I yell at my kids for something,
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  Speaker 2: I do something that I never got when I was
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  Speaker 2: a kid, when I used to get yelled at, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: that was you know, an apology. You know, I apologize
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  Speaker 2: to them sometimes because well most of the time because
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: of everything des Brian said, because I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be their inner critic. I don't want them to think
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: of me and my words to them. You know and
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: feel down about that or feel insulted. I want them
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: to get strength from my words. I want them to
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: feel empowered by my words, you know, which is why
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: when you're a father of a young daughter or young
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: daughters like I am, you tell them they're beautiful. You
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: tell them you love their complexion, you tell them you
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: love their hair, you tell them they are brilliant. You
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: tell them they can achieve anything, because that's the stuff
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  Speaker 2: that they gonna remember. Yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I do discipline my children, and I was always
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  Speaker 7: taught when you discipline, you do it out of love.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 7: You don't do it because you're having a bad day.
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  Speaker 7: You don't do it because of something that's going on
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  Speaker 7: in your life. You do it out of love. And
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  Speaker 7: I think that that's the one thing I would say
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  Speaker 7: that as parents, we need to do more when we
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 7: make a mistake, when we're wrong, we apologize, right, because
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  Speaker 7: you know, a lot of times people feel like apology
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  Speaker 7: is you're being weak, But no, apologizing is being strong.
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  Speaker 7: You understand what you did was wrong, and you're apologizing,
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  Speaker 7: and you're telling your kids, this is not the way
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  Speaker 7: that you're supposed to be acting now when it comes
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  Speaker 7: to my kids and they do something wrong, I explain
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  Speaker 7: to them what it is so they understand. They just
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 7: don't think that I'm taking something away or they're getting
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  Speaker 7: yelled at, or there is a you know, a problem
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  Speaker 7: because of something that they don't understand why. And I
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  Speaker 7: think as a lot of times as children, we don't
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  Speaker 7: understand why we were, you know, in trouble or why
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  Speaker 7: our parents said no.
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  Speaker 6: But I think when you break it down and you
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  Speaker 6: explain it's.
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  Speaker 7: A it's a I think they gain more trust for
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 7: you as a parent because now they understand why you're
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 7: looking out for them.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. I always knew I was
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: getting in trouble as a kid. Kids ain't that. Kids
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: ain't that clueless now, kids knowing, they ain't got no.
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  Speaker 7: But like sometimes like for instance, last night, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I had a shout out to my son Jackson for
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  Speaker 7: christ My daughter came home, Madison came home, and she
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 7: Fortnite a lot. So he's into Fortnite now and he's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 7: almost almost addicted to Fortnite, like, he plays so much.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: So I had to pull him back off a Fortnite.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 7: I pull him back off his video games. So last night,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 7: I go in his room and the video game is up,
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  Speaker 7: and I'm like, bro, we just had this conversation. But
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  Speaker 7: he took it as dad, you said, don't play Fortnite,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm playing Madden. It's two different things, you know.
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  Speaker 2: What I mean. That's just a conversation.
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  Speaker 7: But it's just a conversation. But you know, he didn't
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  Speaker 7: necessarily get it. So when I explained to him what
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  Speaker 7: it was, he was like, all right, I thought.
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  Speaker 2: You just meant come back by the way. I know
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: he know good and will he was doing please. But
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: that goes back to my point. My point. You know, Dan,
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  Speaker 2: he was supposed to be playing no video games period. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't hit you with the word play and you
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: fell for it. See, but you are really clueless now.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: That's what we are realizing now is clueless and we
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: can get got I want you to and because got
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  Speaker 2: so easy.
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  Speaker 6: Shut up.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to the PHNK, you play, go to the phone,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: let's go.
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  Speaker 7: To the play too much, Let's go to the poont
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  Speaker 7: But what I was saying was about why I want
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 7: him to stop playing video games because he was missing
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  Speaker 7: out on life, he was missing out on family.
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  Speaker 6: Thinks he was missing out.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 7: On the most important things, and he understood that's what
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 7: the point was.
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  Speaker 6: Hello, who's this missus?
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  Speaker 14: Marie?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel when you heard that? Marie?
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  Speaker 14: I agree with what he's saying one hundred percent because
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  Speaker 14: I do feel like what our parents used to do
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  Speaker 14: with us or how they go to us to affect us.
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  Speaker 16: In the long run.
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  Speaker 14: So I grew up like very straight, veryctern in Puerto Rican.
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  Speaker 14: So it was like we were gonna punish me. You know,
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  Speaker 14: you build down with your hands on the wall, you
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 14: hold encyclopedias and stuff. So I try my best to
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 14: be different with my son, but it is just sometimes
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 14: to break, you know, break those types of risks that
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  Speaker 14: you know, because I feel like now my mother was
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 14: recerning and she wasn't the way she was then we
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 14: can will see how we are today. So I try
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 14: not to definitely hit my son. But these book kids,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 14: they have like a different outlook on things, very much entitle.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 14: But sometimes charent we get tired of talking, and I
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 14: tell my son other time, like, don't think I like
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 14: yelling at you. Don't think I like putting giving punishment,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 14: but I do have to discipline you. And let you
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 14: know that you can run over me, you won't be
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 14: able to do what you want to do.
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  Speaker 16: But I do feel like they need.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 14: To bring more life, encourage our kids, uplift them and
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 14: be open with them and have those conversations and even
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 14: let them express us how they feel like. I would
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 14: tell my son about making fellow ways, be okay with
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 14: telling me. I have no problem with apologizing. Tell my son.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 14: I feel like a lot of parents do. But that's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 14: how we teach our kids' accountability and for also because
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 14: that they do.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, thank you mama for sharing your story.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Hello, who's this if?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Carlos?
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  Speaker 6: Carlos, good morning. What do you think after you heard that?
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  Speaker 2: Brother?
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  Speaker 1: Well for days, I do understand what he means as
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: far as don't yell at your kids before they go
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: to school to have a good thing.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Who did you say?
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  Speaker 5: Now?
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Right, that's briant Man, Brian Brian and Dee Banks football player.
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  Speaker 12: I get it.
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  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is is that what the what
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: he's dealing with, that's his level of trauma, right, That's
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: something that he went through and and he's trying to
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: correct that in his life. And I absolutely understand that.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: I agree with it. Good for him. But the only
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  Speaker 1: thing that I'm trying to say is I don't think
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: that most people just yell at their kids for nothing.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: No, I think a lot of people do.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of people do.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 7: And the reason a lot of people do is is because,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 7: you know what, people don't think about it. When you're
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 7: stressed out right and you have a lot of stress,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: whether it's work, whether it's just the outside worlds, whether
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 7: it's financial, whether it's family, most of the times you
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 7: take it out on the closest people to you, which
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 7: is usually your wife and your kids, and most people
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 7: don't think about it, but they usually do.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I think what he's saying is something.
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  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, my brother on the phone,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: but I think sometimes there can be an overreaction based
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: off everything Envy just said, Like you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Like you might you might yell at your kids for
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: something that doesn't necessarily mean doesn't necessarily need that level
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  Speaker 2: of volume, You.
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  Speaker 12: Know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm playing this correctly, because I'm not. I'm also
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: not trying to disregard what he's saying. I'm just using
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: it as an example to say, surface level like if
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: my if my kid did something wrong, I'm going to
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: talk to him a lot more terns, whether it's before
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: bed or before school, to make sure he just understands
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: the point, like, Hey, you may.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 12: Have done something wrong.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's probably just.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: That's probably just my That's probably just me and the
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: way I operate in my home.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, brother. Now, I'm sure it's not even
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: just the yelling. It's too it's what's being yelled. It's
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: the things you say to your children before they go
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: to sleep, or the things you say to them before
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: they go to school. Like, you know, I think a
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: lot we gotta we just gotta speak more life into
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: our kids.
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  Speaker 7: Man eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 7: We're talking about des br And he did an interview
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 7: on the Pivot podcast and he was talking about breaking
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 7: generational curses. We're gonna play it when we come back,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 7: and just asking your thoughts just to Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 6: Morning.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 7: Everybody's dj NV Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: We got a salute to Ava Duvine for joining us
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  Speaker 6: this morning.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: Salute to Ava Duvine and Ajan new ellis the movie
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  Speaker 2: Origins will be out January nineteenth and select leaders. Man,
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  Speaker 2: if you were a fan of the book Cast by
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: Isabel Wilkinson, this movie Origins is based on that book.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: And I know you're saying to yourself, how did they
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: make a movie about a book full of facts and research? Well,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: the book is about I mean, the movie is about
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Isabel Wilkinson, and you know how she came to even,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: you know, write the book called Cast. So it's a
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  Speaker 2: theaters on January nineteen, and salute to everybody celebrating the
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  Speaker 2: birthday to day. Do you see this birthday list? First
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: of all, you got Mari Povich. You got James Earl Jones,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade, Michelle Obama, Betty White, Jim Carrey, Muhammad Ali,
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  Speaker 2: Steve Harvey, Little John, and our good brother Ray j
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  Speaker 2: Also is my guy b dodgeborn day be Dot. You're
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: not on this list. I just put you on there, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I just want to throw that out there. Damn birthday
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: beat I had no idea all of those people shared
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: the same day. I don't know what I thought it.
• 1:21:22
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  Speaker 2: All right, if he's definitely a virgo.
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  Speaker 7: Anyway, let's positive note. When we come back as the
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  Speaker 7: Breakfast Slo Good morning morning everybody. It's dj n V
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  Speaker 7: Charlamage the God. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 7: to get up out of here.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: Charlamon.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: You got a positive note, that's right.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Listen, man, I want to tell everybody make sure you
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: go check out Dez Bryant conversation on the Pivot podcast
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: when Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor and Channing Crowd an amazing conversation. Man,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: I want all of us to continue to do the
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: work on ourselves. Continue to go see your therapist, you're psychiatrists,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: your counselors, counselors, your spiritual leaders. Whatever you got to
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: do to do the work on yourself, keep doing it.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: And I just want to tell you, yeah, man, we
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: don't call our cars broken when they're out of gas.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: They just need to be filled up. We don't call
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: our phones worthless when they're out of battery. They just
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: need to be plugged in. The same goes for us
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: as individuals. Me and you. You are not broken, You
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: are not worthless. Your worth healing your worth, rest, go,
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  Speaker 2: get some, have a great day. Breakfast cud bitches. Y'all
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  Speaker 2: finish or y'all done