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Young mom-to-be vanishes just before her very first sonogram. Where is Kassanndra? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the desperate search goes on
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Speaker 1: for a missing thirty three year old mom to be
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Speaker 1: who misses her very first sonogram. That doesn't sound right
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Speaker 1: to me. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us here at Fox Nation and
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Speaker 1: series x M one eleven. First of all, take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our friends at QTE thirteen Fox. It was
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Speaker 1: the ultimate red flag when Cassandra Cantrell failed to show
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Speaker 1: up to her ultrasound earlier this week, something she'd so
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Speaker 1: been looking forward to, something they say she would never
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Speaker 1: willingly miss, leading them to their worst fear that something
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Speaker 1: is terribly wrong. This is not normal. She wouldn't just
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Speaker 1: dam I just need her back. It's been an agonizing
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Speaker 1: three days since Maurice Smith last saw her daughter, thirty
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Speaker 1: three year old Cassandra Cantrell. It was early Tuesday morning,
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Speaker 1: Marie was heading out for work. We just said, you know,
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Speaker 1: she said have a good day at work, and I
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Speaker 1: said thank you, and she said love you and I
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Speaker 1: said love you. And that was the last. About an
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Speaker 1: hour later, at eight forty five am, a security camera
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Speaker 1: caught her driving away in her white mos To sedan
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Speaker 1: from her and her mother's Parkland home. The only plans
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Speaker 1: her mother knew she had that day was at some
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Speaker 1: point to go grocery shopping. I don't think that's where
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Speaker 1: she was going when she left. Where is thirty three
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Speaker 1: year old mom to be Cassandra Cantrell headed to her
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Speaker 1: very first sonogram? Is it a coincidence or no? I
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Speaker 1: can remember my very first sonogram all right now. It
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Speaker 1: was in a doctor's office in midtown Manhattan. I will
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Speaker 1: never forget it. And because the twins were so high risk,
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Speaker 1: I never missed a sonogram ever. Straight out to doctor
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Speaker 1: Angela Arnold psychiatrists joining me out of Atlanta. I can't
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Speaker 1: remember when the sonogram happened, where they couldn't find baby B.
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Speaker 1: That was Lucy unnamed, unnamed, and the horrible, horrible depression
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Speaker 1: I went into thinking I had lost one of the twins,
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Speaker 1: and then the joy you know a month later when
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Speaker 1: baby B turned up again. Who had been hiding behind
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Speaker 1: Baby A? That would have been John David. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I remember every bit it and it's very unusual to
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Speaker 1: me that she missed her sonogram. What do these mean
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Speaker 1: to a mom? To be? Well? Nancy? As you just said,
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Speaker 1: as soon as as soon as someone gets pregnant, they
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Speaker 1: put all of their hopes and dreams on this unborn child.
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Speaker 1: They're they're thinking about going to name this child, where's
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Speaker 1: it going to go to college? Every all your hopes
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Speaker 1: and dreams are put on this baby. So no, women
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Speaker 1: do not miss their first sonogram, their first, their first
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Speaker 1: ability to actually see that little baby growing inside of them.
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Speaker 1: They are not going to miss that first sonogram. The
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Speaker 1: sonogram means everything. It makes it so much more real.
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Speaker 1: This might even be before she's even felt the baby moved,
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Speaker 1: but she actually gets to visualize the baby that is
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Speaker 1: growing inside of her. And you know, I remember I
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Speaker 1: was very high risks with twins at my age, and
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Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about college. I was thinking about keeping
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Speaker 1: them alive till the next day because we had so
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Speaker 1: many dangerous you know, near missus during the pregnancy, which
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Speaker 1: turned out to be life threatening in the end of it.
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Speaker 1: So every day I was so anxious to get that
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Speaker 1: sonogram to know they were okay. Joining me. Isn't all
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Speaker 1: Star panel to figure out what was going through the
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Speaker 1: mind of Cassandra Contrell when she goes missing en route
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Speaker 1: to her first sonogram with me, Kathleen mur Murphy out
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Speaker 1: of us, out of North Carolina family law attorney. You
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Speaker 1: can find her at NC Domestic Law dot com. And
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Speaker 1: let me tell you they call it family law. That
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Speaker 1: makes it sound so sweet and pristine and pure. It's
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Speaker 1: anything but renown psycho psychiatrists joining us out of the
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Speaker 1: Atlanta jurisdiction doctor Angela Arnold. And just so you know,
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Speaker 1: one of her expertise is the psychology in the psychiatry
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Speaker 1: of pregnant women. So I went to her first, James
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Speaker 1: shell Nutt twenty seven years metro major case and including
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Speaker 1: Swat now lawyer at shell Nutt Law Firm dot com.
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Speaker 1: But first to Crime Online dot Com investigator reporter Nicole Parton.
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Speaker 1: I need to know everything you know, Nicole, But take
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Speaker 1: me very slowly a to Z about the day that
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Speaker 1: Cassandra Cantrell, thirty three year old mom to be, goes
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Speaker 1: missing and we're oute to her very first sonogram. Where, who? What? Where? Why? When?
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Speaker 1: Tell me what we know first is that her mother,
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Speaker 1: Cassandra's mother, Maurice Smith. Now Cassandra lived with her mother
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Speaker 1: and her mother's husband, Maurice Smith, and mother says she
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Speaker 1: was leaving for work she woke Cassandra up to tell
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Speaker 1: her by they exchanged some funny from funny back and
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Speaker 1: forth conversation. They told each other that they loved each other,
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Speaker 1: and Marie left for work. Now, the only plans that
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Speaker 1: Cassandra had for the day that her mother was aware
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Speaker 1: of was going to the grocery store. Unfortunately, at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day she hadn't made it to the
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Speaker 1: grocery store. She didn't come back home. We do know
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Speaker 1: that about an hour after Marie left for work, Theissandra
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Speaker 1: was seen pulling out the driveway on the neighbor's ring doorbell.
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Speaker 1: Her white mobstre leaving the driveway roughly around eight forty
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Speaker 1: five that morning, and that's the last visual that anyone has. Okay,
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Speaker 1: back it up, back it up, back it up with
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Speaker 1: me to coleparton Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. I
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Speaker 1: didn't want to interrupt you because every word you were
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Speaker 1: saying and my mind was critical. Last saying by her
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Speaker 1: own mother, what's the mom's name. The mom's name is
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Speaker 1: Maurice Smith. Maurice Smith, last seen by her own mother.
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Speaker 1: She lives with We believe victim of Cassandra Kenschel lives
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Speaker 1: with mom Maurice Smith and Maurice Smith's husband. I noticed
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Speaker 1: you did not say Cassandra's father. Why that's correct. That
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Speaker 1: is not her father, but that is her stepfather, Marie's husband. Interesting,
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Speaker 1: when were those two married. They've been married for several years.
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Speaker 1: And it's my understanding from all information we've received that
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Speaker 1: Marie's husband and Cassandra had a very good relationship. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you know where I was going on that Nicole parton
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Speaker 1: But but but I don't know that. So let me understand.
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Speaker 1: Was the stepfather home when Cassandra went? Was still at home?
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Speaker 1: Was he still there? He was not? He was already
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Speaker 1: gone for the day. Okay, all right? In my mind,
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Speaker 1: that that really helps me exclude him for the moment.
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Speaker 1: So she's there alone Maurice Smith and mom sees her last.
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Speaker 1: But beyond that, isn't it true that she was she
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Speaker 1: spotted on ring doorbell? Or was that later on? She
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Speaker 1: was about an hour after her mother left, the neighbor's
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Speaker 1: ring doorbell spots Cassandra's white Mazda leaving the driveway. Tickel,
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Speaker 1: listen to our friend Olivia la voice at Cheth Dartean Fox.
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Speaker 1: Her mother says Cassandra was about three months pregnant. The
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Speaker 1: father as a friend, and though unexpected for Cassandra, it
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Speaker 1: was the most welcome surprise when she found out. She
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Speaker 1: was thrilled because she wasn't sure that she'd have a
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Speaker 1: chance to have a baby, and so she was really excited.
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Speaker 1: She already picked up names. Law enforcement is calling Cassandra's
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Speaker 1: disappearance suspicious. They're not sure if she ever ended up
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Speaker 1: going to the store Tuesday. They say, since she disappeared,
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Speaker 1: there's been no activity on her bank account or cell phone.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just like, maybe come up with me so
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Speaker 1: she can have her baby. That's all. If you have
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Speaker 1: any information on this case, you're urged to contact the
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Speaker 1: Pierce County Sheriff's Department. And if you think you see
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Speaker 1: Cassandra or her car, you're Astracine Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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Speaker 1: we are discussing the disappearance of a three month pregnant
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Speaker 1: mom to be, Cassandra Cantrell. She disappears just before her
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Speaker 1: very first sonogram. You were hearing our friend at Cute
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Speaker 1: thirteen Fox describing how Cassandra had already picked out a name,
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Speaker 1: was looking at names for the baby, was thrilled and
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Speaker 1: I found this very very important. I'll explained why later.
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Speaker 1: To psychiatrist doctor Angela Arnold, joining us in the Atlanta jurisdiction.
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Speaker 1: Her specialty is psychiatry psychology of pregnant moms, Doctor Angela,
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Speaker 1: it seems to me, did you hear that comment? Kind
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Speaker 1: of an offhand comment? Quote she was so happy she
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Speaker 1: was quote not sure she should have a chance to
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Speaker 1: have a baby. Did you hear that? Because maybe I'm
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Speaker 1: projecting doctor Angela, but I felt the same way. I
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Speaker 1: could not believe, after all the time I had fought
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Speaker 1: crime and put off marriage, put off a family, I
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Speaker 1: could have a baby, much less twins, And that made
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Speaker 1: it so sacro sank. I couldn't do anything to jeopardize
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Speaker 1: those twins and my stomach. And it seems to me
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Speaker 1: that's the same way Cassandra Kntrel felt. Oh. Yes, she
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Speaker 1: was very very even though this was an unplanned pregnancy.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like she was over the moon about it.
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Speaker 1: So we know that she was very happy about this pregnancy.
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Speaker 1: She was she has no intention of getting rid of
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Speaker 1: this pregnancy. She's looking forward to this pregnancy. She is
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Speaker 1: very happy about this. To you, Kathleen Murphy North Carolina
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Speaker 1: family law attorney at NC Domestic Law dot Com. Kathleen,
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Speaker 1: that also gives me a glimpse into her behavior. This
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Speaker 1: does not sound like a mom that is going to
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Speaker 1: engage in risky behavior. She's so happy, she's so ecstatic.
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Speaker 1: This is unexpected blessing. She is not going to go
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Speaker 1: out and do anything extreme like drink, have drugs, smoke up, skydive.
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Speaker 1: It's a crime area. Is nothing that could affect this child.
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Speaker 1: Do you see where I'm going with this line of thought, Kathleen,
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Speaker 1: I do, and I'll add to that. Nancy, in fact,
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Speaker 1: when she had she was a very intentional young woman
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Speaker 1: and she was going to go to the grocery store
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Speaker 1: that day, and she made those plans. The grocery store
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Speaker 1: that she was going to was an all natural, organic
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Speaker 1: type of store, So she was absolutely protecting her baby.
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Speaker 1: Just thinking back, thinking back on the fact that she
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Speaker 1: didn't make it, Is that correct, Nicole part in Crime
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Speaker 1: Online dot Com investigative reporter. She never made it to
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Speaker 1: the grocery store, or did she? I mean, I don't
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Speaker 1: have any surveillance video, but I don't know if the
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Speaker 1: organic grocery store had surveillance video for all I know
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Speaker 1: they're opposed to the video waves. I don't know there
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Speaker 1: was their video at that organic grocery store. We're being
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Speaker 1: told that they did scan all video surveillance that was available,
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Speaker 1: and to our knowledge, she did not make it to
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Speaker 1: the grocery store. Her debit card was not used, and
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Speaker 1: there was no surveillance whatsoever that shows her entering or
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Speaker 1: leaving that grocery store. Okay, so she never made it in.
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Speaker 1: So we've got a timeline right here, James Sheln joining
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Speaker 1: me twenty seven years after a major case. Now, lawyer,
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Speaker 1: we've got her leaving that morning on video, so we
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Speaker 1: have a time. What time was that Nicole Parton that
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Speaker 1: she spotted leaving eighty five am? We know she never
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Speaker 1: made it to the grocery store. Hey, Nicole Parton, is
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Speaker 1: there any surveillance video of her in the parking lot
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Speaker 1: of the grocery store? Not that we're aware of. We're
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Speaker 1: being told that there was nothing else, no other sightings
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Speaker 1: of her. Now they're canvassing the neighborhood asking anyone check
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Speaker 1: your surveillance, check your ring doorbells, check your security cameras.
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Speaker 1: But at this point the only time they actually saw
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Speaker 1: her on any surveillance footage that they're releasing to us.
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Speaker 1: Is that neighbor's ring doorbell when she left at eight
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Speaker 1: forty five? And could you tell me where is this exactly?
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Speaker 1: I know it's Pierce County, but what neighborhood would we
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Speaker 1: expect to find the video? That's in Parkland, Washington, a
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Speaker 1: suburb of Tacoma. Parkland, Washington, just outside of Tacoma. So
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Speaker 1: that tells me, James Shellnutt she was taken that morning
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Speaker 1: between leaving the house and getting to that organic grocery. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's certainly what it sounds like. You know,
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Speaker 1: you know how import a timeline is an investigation in
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Speaker 1: a missing person's case. You know, if you take a
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Speaker 1: look at her electronic footprint, you know, you can want
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Speaker 1: to take a look at the last time that that
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Speaker 1: phone was used. Was it teemed off a tower to
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Speaker 1: keep them some indication as to the last time the
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Speaker 1: foam transmitted the message or signal. Were her credit cards
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Speaker 1: or debit cards used in any other location other than
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Speaker 1: where she went to The electronic footprint in this particular
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Speaker 1: case and a lot of others like it starts to
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Speaker 1: become very important when a person veers off course from
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Speaker 1: where they intended to go. Guys a tip line two
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Speaker 1: five three seven nine eight seven five three zero repeat
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Speaker 1: two five three seven nine eight seven five three zero,
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Speaker 1: and you can go to crime online dot com and
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Speaker 1: you can see her picture. I'm trying to tell you
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Speaker 1: maybe who she looks like. Does she look a little
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Speaker 1: bit like Lisa Low to me with the glasses, a
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Speaker 1: little bit like hair, beautiful brunette hair, neatly pulled back.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at a photo of her with that in
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Speaker 1: a loose, kind of a messy ponytail. She's wearing looks
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Speaker 1: like diamond studs in her ears. And now I'm looking
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Speaker 1: at her with her hair down. It's just past her
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Speaker 1: shoulders from what I can tell. And she looks to
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Speaker 1: have blue eyes. To me, one eye looks darker than
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Speaker 1: the other eye, a little bit darker, you know how
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Speaker 1: Jackie Mattie McCann has the dark stripe down one eye.
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Speaker 1: It's very memorable in most of these pictures. It looks
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Speaker 1: to me like one eye it's a little bit deeper
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Speaker 1: blue than the other eye. I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: notice that, Nicole parton Anyway, long story short, go to
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Speaker 1: crime online dot com and look at her picture. She's
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Speaker 1: really pretty. Speaking of very very odd point, James shell Nutt,
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Speaker 1: speaking of a digital footprint. Let's take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friends at ki R O seven News. This is
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Speaker 1: Maurice Smith. Listen. Her clothes and a lot of her
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Speaker 1: accessories were in my bathroom, so it looked like she'd
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Speaker 1: gotten ready, you know, to go somewhere. And because she
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Speaker 1: had taken all that effort, I figured it was the
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Speaker 1: doctor's appointment and not just to go grocery shopping. She
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Speaker 1: just would have put her hair in a ponytail and gone,
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Speaker 1: you know. So when she didn't come home that evening
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Speaker 1: Tuesday evening, I wasn't really worried about it. She was
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Speaker 1: supposed to meet her friend, when she didn't. When she
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Speaker 1: wasn't there in the morning, I texted her and said,
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Speaker 1: you know, it would have been nice if you'd called
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Speaker 1: or texted and said you were going to stay the night,
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Speaker 1: you know. Um, and Ronnie's what do you want for dinner?
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Speaker 1: You know? And then I and I went to work.
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Speaker 1: When I got home and she still wasn't there, I
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Speaker 1: started calling the people that I knew and said, hey,
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Speaker 1: did she you know, come over there? And they were
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Speaker 1: like no, So I tried calling her and it went
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Speaker 1: straight and voicemail. My daughter doesn't turn off her phone.
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Speaker 1: Her daughter doesn't turn off her phone. Very important. I
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Speaker 1: never turn off my phone because I actually don't want
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Speaker 1: to take the two seconds it takes to hold the
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Speaker 1: phone and turn it off. I keep just recharging it.
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Speaker 1: So how did this woman go missing? And you know,
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Speaker 1: to doctor Angela Arnold, at this point in a pregnancy,
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Speaker 1: anything can go wrong. You know, she said her first trimester,
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Speaker 1: and that isn't that typically when you lose the baby.
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Speaker 1: Oh God forbid that not happen. But isn't that typically
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Speaker 1: when you miss Carrie and the first trimester? Yes? And
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Speaker 1: you know the fact that she's that she was almost
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Speaker 1: three months pregnant means that she had gotten past that
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Speaker 1: dangers them and the pregnancy was in likely going to
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Speaker 1: stick crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about
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Speaker 1: a beautiful young girl about three months pregnant, just vanishes
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Speaker 1: seemingly into thin air just before her very first sonogram.
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Speaker 1: And you know, all you moms and moms to be
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Speaker 1: out there, you just don't disappear just before your first sonogram.
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Speaker 1: You get that sonogram. She was going to an organic
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Speaker 1: grocery store that morning. She never showed up. We checked
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Speaker 1: about video in the grocery store. Nothing, no show up,
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Speaker 1: no nothing. And then we hear from the mom, her mother,
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Speaker 1: Marie Smith, that she never turned off her phone. That's
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Speaker 1: her practice. And you know what, that's very important, Kathleen Murphy,
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Speaker 1: family lawyer, right in North Carolina. We hear about routine behavior.
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Speaker 1: I don't mean routine behavior evidence. I don't mean that
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Speaker 1: it's you bringing into evidence every day as a routine.
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Speaker 1: It's evidence of your routine. So if one morning I
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Speaker 1: just didn't show up in the studio, Jackie here and
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Speaker 1: Brett over there would know something was way wrong, way wrong.
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Speaker 1: If I didn't take my twins to school in the
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Speaker 1: morning and I just wasn't there in the morning, everybody
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Speaker 1: would know something was wrong because I never ever missed that.
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Speaker 1: It's like clot work. Would she when her phone seemingly
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Speaker 1: has been turned off, her mother, Marie knows something is wrong.
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Speaker 1: You know what behavioral evidence, Kathleen, You can literally set
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Speaker 1: your clock by it. Not only that Nancy, but her
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Speaker 1: intentionality as a person, which is what her mother has
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Speaker 1: talked about. This was a planner, This was somebody who's
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Speaker 1: stuck to a routine. This was somebody who called and
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Speaker 1: checked in. This was somebody who you could count on
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Speaker 1: to do the same things over and over again. And
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Speaker 1: she was not a willy nilly flighty type of person
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Speaker 1: who went from him there in yawned to make any
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Speaker 1: any plans for her day. She let everybody know what
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Speaker 1: she's doing, you know. James Schalnutt went silent. Oh, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I agree with you. James shellnut twenty
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Speaker 1: seven years Matro Major case. Now, lawyer, let's talk about
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Speaker 1: what you were saying about cell phone data. We know
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Speaker 1: it's not her routine to turn off her cell phone,
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Speaker 1: but it sounds like it's going straight to voicemail and
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Speaker 1: it's been turned off. That says to me, she didn't
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Speaker 1: do it. Somebody did not want that cell phone pain,
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Speaker 1: because isn't it true if you cut your cell phone off,
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Speaker 1: it can't be pained. Yes, somebody did not want the
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Speaker 1: cell phone over that's discovered. It is possible that the
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Speaker 1: battery could have died after it was pain I know,
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Speaker 1: but but it does happen. It's believe. I do believe
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Speaker 1: that most of the time that the phone is either
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Speaker 1: destroyed the phone is turned off to prevent that evidence
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Speaker 1: from being discovered. And what you discovered where that last
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Speaker 1: pain is at? That gives the detectives at least a
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Speaker 1: place to go there. I don't want to go canvas
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Speaker 1: this place, Look at gas stations, look at other places
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Speaker 1: where a person may stop off for a minute. Show
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Speaker 1: this lady's picture, Show Cassandra's picture to people and possibly,
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Speaker 1: in the worst case scenario, possibly look for evidence as
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Speaker 1: to where she may be. Let me ask you, this,
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Speaker 1: isn't it true that cops can do a data dump?
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Speaker 1: What I mean by that is, you know, I believe
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Speaker 1: we saw it. Many people found out about it for
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Speaker 1: the first time in the Missy Beavers investigation where the
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Speaker 1: mom goes to the church and to do a gladiator
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Speaker 1: aerobics exercise class. She was the leader of the class
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Speaker 1: at like four o'clock in the morning and they did
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Speaker 1: a data dump cell phone. What I mean by that
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Speaker 1: if we can ping where Cassandra Contrel's phone was less
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Speaker 1: that we know of, couldn't we data dump all the
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Speaker 1: cell phones that were in use at that time it
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Speaker 1: went dead in that area? Is that possible? James Shell
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Speaker 1: Nutty know. The answer is yes, you can do a
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Speaker 1: day to dump. As a matter of fact, that it
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Speaker 1: lays it out really nicely for you. You can actually
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Speaker 1: convert it to an Excel spreadsheet and it lays out
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Speaker 1: tons of details that are very helpful in an investigation
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Speaker 1: like this. I'm really surprised it's not used more often.
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Speaker 1: It may be exhaustive as man hours. I don't know that,
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Speaker 1: but when minutes count for a mom and a baby,
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Speaker 1: I think it might be worth it. Nicole parton, what
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Speaker 1: do you know about the ping? We have the last
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Speaker 1: ping information from detectives and her phone was last Her
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Speaker 1: phone was last pinged at a place called ten miles.
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Speaker 1: Are you saying Defiance, yes, ma'am. Point Defiance Park and
22:49
Speaker 1: it's a mile from her home ten mile Tan. That's
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Speaker 1: very odd. This park has a marina, kayaks, a dog park,
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Speaker 1: walking trails. It's a very busy place. Some of the
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Speaker 1: places are very out in the open, like the dog park,
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Speaker 1: the marina, and aquarium, but then there's some wooded areas.
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Speaker 1: There's some walking trails there as well. Crime Stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, guys, I want to get back to our
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Speaker 1: search for Cassandra Cantrell, and we were talking about the
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Speaker 1: phone pinging as Nicole Parton tells us ten miles away
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Speaker 1: from Cassandra's home at Defiance Park. Was she actually there
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Speaker 1: or was her phone left there? Nicole Parton, has her
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Speaker 1: phone been found? Her phone has not been found. That
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Speaker 1: detectives at least starn't releasing that information to us guys.
23:51
Speaker 1: In another big break in the case. Listen to our
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Speaker 1: friend Kevin McCarty a k i R O seven news,
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Speaker 1: and this is the neighborhood that woman's car was found
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Speaker 1: abandoned near the Tacomodome and not too far from an
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Speaker 1: overpass on Interstate seven O five. Right now, investigators say
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Speaker 1: they have no clue, so they're hoping the public can
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Speaker 1: say something that will help them find out what happened
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Speaker 1: to Santa Contrell hasn't been seen for nearly a week.
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Speaker 1: Her family says the thirty three year old was scheduled
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Speaker 1: for an ultrasound August twenty fifth, after recently finding out
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Speaker 1: she was pregnant. And I had accidentally woke her up
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Speaker 1: and she told me to have a good day at
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Speaker 1: work and we did her funny voices she love you
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Speaker 1: and I'm like love you, that's it. She never showed
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Speaker 1: up for the meeting with her best friend who was
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Speaker 1: going with her, and never showed up for the appointment.
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Speaker 1: Cantrell's mother says when she heard her daughter's car had
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Speaker 1: been found near the Tacomadome almost four days later, she
24:50
Speaker 1: knew something was wrong. What I hope worst case scenario,
24:56
Speaker 1: he said, Maybe she was carjacked and she's just hurt somewhere,
25:02
Speaker 1: you know, doctor Angela Arnold hearing that mother Maurice Smith crying,
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Speaker 1: did you hear her earlier saying she had left a message, Hey,
25:13
Speaker 1: you could have told me if you were going to
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Speaker 1: spend the night with your friend and ps, what do
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Speaker 1: you want for supper tonight? Do you notice how now
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Speaker 1: she's blaming herself for, you know, kind of jokingly fussing
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Speaker 1: at her grown daughter for being gone over the night
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Speaker 1: overnight and trying to normalize it in her own psyche
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Speaker 1: by going, hey, what do you want for supper tonight?
25:39
Speaker 1: Because you know that's the twins And yes, I know
25:42
Speaker 1: it's crazy, but all the way to school in the morning,
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Speaker 1: I say, hey, what do you want for supper? And
25:48
Speaker 1: we all talk about this and that and blah blah, blah.
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Speaker 1: So in a way, it's kind of like a comfort zone.
25:54
Speaker 1: You go to, Hey, what do you want for supper?
25:57
Speaker 1: You're planning for something that night, Like, nothing is wrong.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear that exactly? And as far as the
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Speaker 1: mother was concerned, nothing was wrong. So we all have
26:07
Speaker 1: to assume that Cassandra and her family were very happy
26:13
Speaker 1: about this pregnancy. Everybody was very happy about this pregnancy,
26:17
Speaker 1: and no one had a thought in their head that
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Speaker 1: anything was wrong. They were just going about their normal routine.
26:24
Speaker 1: I'm going to circle back to you about how everybody's
26:27
Speaker 1: going about their normal routine and your life changes literally
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Speaker 1: in an instant. Take a listen to our friend AMR
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Speaker 1: Lewis qute thirteen Fox. Thirty three year old Cassandra Cantrell
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Speaker 1: was last seen in a neighbor's ring video footage leaving
26:41
Speaker 1: her Parkland neighborhood last Tuesday morning. Family members they're not
26:45
Speaker 1: sure where she was headed at that point, but they
26:48
Speaker 1: have not seen her since Friday evening though. That's when
26:51
Speaker 1: Cassandra's white Mazda was found near the Tacoma Dome with
26:55
Speaker 1: no one inside. Family members say this is suspicious because
26:59
Speaker 1: she doesn't not frequent that area. So since then, search
27:03
Speaker 1: crews have scoured Point Defiance Park as well for evidence,
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Speaker 1: but so far they have found no trace of Cassandra.
27:10
Speaker 1: You know, if you think about stadiums, domes, that's a
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Speaker 1: heavily populated area. She wasn't going to the Tacoma Dome
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Speaker 1: that morning. She was going to an organic grocery stores,
27:24
Speaker 1: three months pregnant and getting ready for her very first sonogram.
27:28
Speaker 1: Take a listen to the Pierce County Sheriff's detective Ed Troyer.
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Speaker 1: This is suspicious because everybody we've talked to, whether it
27:35
Speaker 1: be family or friends, have let us know that this
27:40
Speaker 1: is way out of character of her. And she lived
27:41
Speaker 1: at home with her parents, and so everybody that was
27:44
Speaker 1: around her said there's a problem here. And when that happens,
27:48
Speaker 1: of course we got on it right away. We're able
27:50
Speaker 1: to find the car. And when we found the car abandoned,
27:54
Speaker 1: you know, that's another suspicious activity when the car somewhere
27:58
Speaker 1: where it shouldn't have been and shows up overnight and
28:01
Speaker 1: she's nowhere to be found. So we're working this case. Unfortunately,
28:05
Speaker 1: this is a tough word for the family and everybody
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Speaker 1: to hear, but we're working this case. As if it's
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Speaker 1: a homicide, and so we're not doing anything that we
28:12
Speaker 1: wouldn't do on a regular case that would be considered
28:15
Speaker 1: a homicide. And it's sad and it's unfortunate, but that's
28:18
Speaker 1: the way we're doing it, and hopefully, you know, we
28:21
Speaker 1: get surprised and something's different. But at this point we're
28:24
Speaker 1: going to continue to work it that way. James Shell,
28:27
Speaker 1: not twenty seven years match a major case now, defense lawyer.
28:31
Speaker 1: They need to be working two parallel investigations, one as
28:35
Speaker 1: if it were a homicide and one as if it
28:38
Speaker 1: were a kidnap missing person. Don't you think? Yes, no,
28:41
Speaker 1: absolutely here But would that really be a different investigation?
28:46
Speaker 1: Is it really any different? Or is it all semantics?
28:49
Speaker 1: You know what? There are a lot of overlaps. You know,
28:53
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to certainly talk to the same people.
28:55
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to certainly look for the same information.
28:58
Speaker 1: Are they a little bit of deviation? Is sure? You know,
29:01
Speaker 1: But the bottom line orhether there's a missing person's case,
29:03
Speaker 1: or whether or not you're looking at it as a
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Speaker 1: possible homicide case, you know you're gonna want to start
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Speaker 1: doing some of the same basic things You're gonna want
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Speaker 1: to learn as much about Cassager as possible. You know,
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Speaker 1: what was her behavior, what was her mindset leading up
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Speaker 1: to the times? Say, she's drinking hot steamed coconut meal,
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Speaker 1: she's pregnant, she's living at home with her mother. Come on, man,
29:24
Speaker 1: it's not like she's party girl. Casey Anthony, I'll a
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Speaker 1: stripper bowl. Let's hear more of the Pierce County she
29:32
Speaker 1: have to take to place? Have you found a body?
29:35
Speaker 1: At this point, we have not found her. She is
29:38
Speaker 1: still missing under highly suspicious circumstances. We're continuing to do
29:42
Speaker 1: multiple searches. We have other searches going on right now
29:45
Speaker 1: as we speak, in different parts of the county. We
29:49
Speaker 1: plan on continuing to do these searches and for a
29:52
Speaker 1: couple of reasons, a process of elimination to make sure
29:55
Speaker 1: that we did them, to fall up on all the
29:57
Speaker 1: evidence we have, and also if there's a the other
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Speaker 1: evidence Sarah, we can take that into consideration and use
30:03
Speaker 1: it to continue the investigation of moving forward. Why is
30:06
Speaker 1: the FBI involved. The FBI is involved strictly as an assistant.
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Speaker 1: They are not part of the investigative team. The FBI
30:13
Speaker 1: is here because they have equipment and they have basically
30:17
Speaker 1: one of the best forensic teams in the country, so
30:19
Speaker 1: we need that for this particular case. We've called the
30:22
Speaker 1: FBI let them know what we have, and they've graciously
30:25
Speaker 1: allowed us to use their resources and people that can
30:28
Speaker 1: do a lot to seeing to find out if something
30:33
Speaker 1: various happen here or for something we need to take
30:35
Speaker 1: a lookout further. Okay, bay to you, James shell Nutt
30:38
Speaker 1: And Okay, I'm sorry. I know came down on you.
30:41
Speaker 1: I don't want your wife to email me again and
30:43
Speaker 1: say how many I am to you? Okay, so please
30:45
Speaker 1: tell her I apologize because now I need you again.
30:49
Speaker 1: I don't know that I buy that. Why is the
30:51
Speaker 1: FBI involved? I were just using the equipment. The FBI
30:56
Speaker 1: doesn't just swooping in willie nilly. Yeah, I either like
30:59
Speaker 1: you calls hey, if you guys aren't music could shoot
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Speaker 1: over here and get us saying there's a reason that
31:04
Speaker 1: there's Yeah, they call him, I go, hey, what's she doing?
31:09
Speaker 1: Can you come over? It just does happen that way, guys, um,
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Speaker 1: I would know. Guys. Another development, take a listen to
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Speaker 1: Roy Pierce County Sheriff. Listen at this point. We do
31:21
Speaker 1: have a person that we want to either eliminate and
31:25
Speaker 1: clear or name him as a suspect. There are some
31:29
Speaker 1: things that led up to this that we haven't released
31:31
Speaker 1: yet that put us here. We're obviously here, you know,
31:34
Speaker 1: not for any you know, there's a reason why we're here.
31:36
Speaker 1: Judge signed to search warrant. We're here and we're going
31:39
Speaker 1: to process this house and we're going to continue to
31:41
Speaker 1: work this case forward, and we're going to continue to
31:44
Speaker 1: work anybody that could be named as a suspect. But
31:46
Speaker 1: we do, we do have a suspect that we want
31:49
Speaker 1: to take a look out and to do a deeper
31:51
Speaker 1: dive into to see what involvement. Tune Nicole parton Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com. I assume that we're talking about the
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Speaker 1: exit boyfriend. They served to search more on his house.
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Speaker 1: That's correct, Nancy. A detective Troyer said that the SWAT
32:04
Speaker 1: team actually entered with force with flashbags in what the
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Speaker 1: detective called a dynamic entry to present the search warrant
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Speaker 1: on the ex boyfriend's home located on South Ka Street.
32:16
Speaker 1: And I'm one question for you, is he the bio
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Speaker 1: dad of the unborn baby? Speculations are saying that he is,
32:24
Speaker 1: her family is saying that he is not. If you
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Speaker 1: have information about this beautiful young mom to be, Cassandra Kenshell,
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Speaker 1: please call two five three seven nine eight seven five
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Speaker 1: three zero. We wait as justice unfollows Nancy Grace Crime's
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Speaker 1: try signing off Good Boyfriend