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Just The Cats 09-25-26 · Just The Cats

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Just the Cats with Michael Bennett.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Big Blue Nation. It is Friday, September 25th, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not Michael Bennett. This is Dr. John Huang filling
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  Speaker 2: in for Michael. He has graciously handed me over the
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  Speaker 2: controls to this airplane for the next couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be here with you Friday, today. And on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: but fortunately, I am not alone. I have my co-pilot,
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  Speaker 2: Justin Kalen, with me. Justin, is that a new opening
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  Speaker 2: that I just heard? That sounded a little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: It's a new voice. Same open, new voice.
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  Speaker 2: All right. I think just like anything else, it'll take
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  Speaker 2: a little while to get used to it. My understanding
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  Speaker 2: is that you'll be with me this first hour, but
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  Speaker 2: then you're going to take a parachute and you're going
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  Speaker 2: to jump out, bail out on me. And what's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen then? And I'm going to be left alone
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  Speaker 2: to pilot this thing?
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  Speaker 3: You are not. Unfortunately, well, or maybe fortunately, depending on
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  Speaker 3: how you look at it, your plane's going to do
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  Speaker 3: a couple flips in the air. You're going to do
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  Speaker 3: a couple barrel rolls.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
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  Speaker 3: And we're going to get Trevor in here, and he is...
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  Speaker 3: He is quite the crazy co-pilot.
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  Speaker 2: Trevor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I have never worked with Trevor. I've never met Trevor.
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  Speaker 2: I've never talked to Trevor. This is just like Michael Bennett.
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  Speaker 2: You mean he's going to go ahead and leave control
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  Speaker 2: of this airplane to two guys who have never, ever
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  Speaker 2: even interacted with each other in any way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 2: This is a big operation. I'm not sure we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to crash and burn on this thing. Reassure me, please.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that that's not going to happen either,
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  Speaker 3: but I will let you know that something to make
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  Speaker 3: you feel a little better. So we have the same situation.
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  Speaker 3: probably about a month and a half ago, we had
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  Speaker 3: a remote broadcast and I've got to be on site
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  Speaker 3: for our remote broadcast. So I actually didn't tell Michael
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  Speaker 3: till the day of Trevor was going to be filling
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  Speaker 3: in for the second hour. So he was really worried.
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  Speaker 3: Turns out Michael and Trevor became best friends and that
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  Speaker 3: they still talk about each other today.
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  Speaker 2: So, Well, they are professionals in the true sense of
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  Speaker 2: the word then. But I will make no bones about it.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Bennett and I are very, very different. And I
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  Speaker 2: know people are tuning in to Just the Cats. to
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  Speaker 2: hear Michael Bennett and Justin Kalen. I'm not him. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I am probably the opposite of Michael Bennett. He is loud, boisterous,
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  Speaker 2: very opinionated, can be a little bit off-putting at times,
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  Speaker 2: very gregarious, loves people, loves to be in a crowd,
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  Speaker 2: gets energized. I am a little bit more reserved. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a radio guy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a writer.
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  Speaker 2: I like my time alone. I get recharged by my
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  Speaker 2: time alone. I'm one of these guys, I can rent
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  Speaker 2: room in a monastery and probably be happy. So radio
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  Speaker 2: is a little bit out of my comfort zone. I
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  Speaker 2: am going to apologize in advance. And because of that,
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  Speaker 2: I need the listener's help, especially on a day like
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  Speaker 2: today in which we're kind of banking back and forth
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  Speaker 2: with this plane. Whiskey Thief text line 502-414-1450. That's 502-414-1450.
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  Speaker 2: And the problem with that, Justin, is that I can't
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  Speaker 2: see any of the texts coming in. So you're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to read them to me. Or if people
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  Speaker 2: want to kind of just go over your head, they
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  Speaker 2: can message me directly on X. I've got it open
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  Speaker 2: in front of me. It's at KentuckyKwongs, K-Y-H-U-A-N-G-S, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: try to read any of those, but we do need
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  Speaker 2: your help. Justin, I know also that I am not
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  Speaker 2: Michael's first choice. I know he went to many, many
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  Speaker 2: people in the bullpen until he got to me. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just the guy at the end of the bench. I
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  Speaker 2: am just the guy at the deep end of the
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  Speaker 2: bullpen where Nobody else agrees to do the show. Then I,
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  Speaker 2: as a friend will.
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  Speaker 3: Step up and help out. I'm not going to, we're
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  Speaker 3: not starting a pity party on a Friday. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think you were last in the bullpen. You, first of all,
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  Speaker 3: you did a great job last time you filled in
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  Speaker 3: with the exception of taking breaks a little bit late.
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  Speaker 3: But other than that, I thought you did a tremendous job.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we're looking for more of the same today.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a big bar to look up to, and
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  Speaker 2: I hope you are right, but no promises from that standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also a little bit tired today. I had to
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  Speaker 2: go to Cincinnati early this morning and pick up my daughter.
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  Speaker 2: She is flying in from LA, and I agreed to
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  Speaker 2: do that because there are no direct flights from LA
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  Speaker 2: to Lexington, and if anything I can do to save
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  Speaker 2: her a little bit of time, to provide her a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of comfort, you're going to do that for
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  Speaker 2: your kids. And she had a hard day at work,
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  Speaker 2: and so she wanted a red-eye flight that she could
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and sleep through. Well, this is one of
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  Speaker 2: the reasons why I don't travel much anymore. It is
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  Speaker 2: a pain in the butt. She literally had a flight
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  Speaker 2: from hell. First of all, she's got the aisle seat.
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  Speaker 2: The guy in the window has diarrhea.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: So he's running back and forth to the laboratory many,
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  Speaker 2: many times. And long story short, she gets no sleep
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  Speaker 2: at all. But my question to you and to any
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  Speaker 2: of the listeners, shouldn't that guy have at least shown
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of common courtesy to a fellow traveler
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  Speaker 2: by maybe asking to switch seats or whatever. I pity
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  Speaker 2: the guy. I mean, I've been there before. There are
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  Speaker 2: not many worse places to have an upset stomach than
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  Speaker 2: on an airplane, right? I don't like to go use
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  Speaker 2: the laboratories for number one. Can you imagine using number two?
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  Speaker 2: You're sitting there, you're cramped, no room to move around.
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  Speaker 2: You want to be a little bit of consciousness. You
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  Speaker 2: don't want the people waiting on you to be waiting
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  Speaker 2: five minutes while you're in there doing your thing, too. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: it smells bad. So there are a lot of bad
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  Speaker 2: things that go into that. But man, she didn't get
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  Speaker 2: any sleep at all. So she's sacked out right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of running on fumes. That's the other part
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  Speaker 2: of the pity party. I promise that'll be it. no
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  Speaker 2: more from that.
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  Speaker 3: So i couldn't be any more opposite than you with
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  Speaker 3: airplane bathrooms so i'm a little guy maybe that benefits
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  Speaker 3: me that i've never really felt like cramped in a
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  Speaker 3: bathroom and i don't know i don't anytime i fly
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  Speaker 3: it's almost like a mission for me to go in
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  Speaker 3: there and use the bathroom once because how cool is
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  Speaker 3: that you're flying in the air and you're using the
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  Speaker 3: bathroom like that's that's pretty awesome so i that's almost
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  Speaker 3: my mission when i fly.
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  Speaker 2: I think flying would be a lot easier if you
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  Speaker 2: were the only one on the plane, right? I guess
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  Speaker 2: my gripe is common courtesy nowadays is gone. Katie also
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  Speaker 2: said there was another woman in this row in front
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  Speaker 2: of her who had this big, bright reading light on
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  Speaker 2: the whole night. On a red-eye flight, it is also
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  Speaker 2: common courtesy to kind of keep everything, well, everyone, Realize
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  Speaker 2: people want to sleep on that. There are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of business travelers. There's a lot of people who specifically
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  Speaker 2: schedule that flight just in order to be able to
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  Speaker 2: get some rest. And I realize it's not first class.
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  Speaker 2: It's not premium economy even work. we're over there in steerage,
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  Speaker 2: but still common courtesy is lost nowadays.
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  Speaker 3: It absolutely is. And you're right in both situations, definite
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  Speaker 3: more so with the guy with the diarrhea. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: why would he not be like, Hey, you want to
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  Speaker 3: switch seats? So I don't have to bother you all night.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that, that would have been the nice, easy
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  Speaker 3: thing to do, but I get it. If the dude
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  Speaker 3: wants to have a window seat, then you like what
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  Speaker 3: you like. Maybe he has to have a window seat
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  Speaker 3: to eases anxiety or something i mean you never know
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  Speaker 3: what he was dealing with but then the yeah i
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  Speaker 3: mean i can understand the reading but maybe like i
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  Speaker 3: don't know can't you unscrew the light bulb a little
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  Speaker 3: bit and make it less bright just a thought yeah you.
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  Speaker 2: Ought to be able to turn those things down or
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  Speaker 2: maybe hide in a way in which it's not lighting
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  Speaker 2: up the entire three rows in and around you all
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  Speaker 2: right uh let's see speaking speaking of stinking it up
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  Speaker 2: uh did you watch the uh Packers Falcons last night.
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  Speaker 3: Packers. Dang.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you think LeFleur is on the hot seat right now,
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  Speaker 2: or at least he's getting very, very warm, right?
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  Speaker 3: I would say, yeah. I mean, it feels like he's
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  Speaker 3: been on the hot seat for months, or for years now,
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  Speaker 3: I mean. I mean, ever since he made that goofy
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  Speaker 3: decision in the playoff to take the field goal when
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  Speaker 3: they're down eight points with like three minutes left in
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  Speaker 3: the game, they end up losing. I mean, that was
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  Speaker 3: just a goofy decision. But yeah, it seems like Packers
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  Speaker 3: fans have been very unhappy with him for a while now.
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  Speaker 3: And that result last night, I mean, Atlanta scored more
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  Speaker 3: points in the first half than they had in their
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  Speaker 3: previous two games total. That's bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that just goes to show you that the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: more than anything, is a week-to-week league. You just never
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  Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. Atlanta, coming into that game,
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking was one of the worst teams in
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  Speaker 2: the league. And now everybody's talking about them winning their division,
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  Speaker 2: maybe competing for a possible Super Bowl. It is wild.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you that. Bajon Robinson, best back in the league.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the top three easily.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets almost 200 yards rushing. Drake London, almost
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  Speaker 2: 200 yards receiving. That's a heck of a one-two punch. Packers,
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  Speaker 2: I'll give it to him. Had some injuries. O-line was hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Jagger Burton, former UK star, got the start, I think,
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  Speaker 2: at left tackle. So rather inauspicious start, to say the least.
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  Speaker 2: But still, it's good to see UK guys in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Coming from an Indiana fan with me, you're going to
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  Speaker 3: start to see a lot more of that moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: Once Will Stein gets things rolling, I mean, obviously that
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  Speaker 3: big win over Texas A & M, you will have
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  Speaker 3: a draft in the near future where 8, 10, 12
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  Speaker 3: Kentucky guys are getting drafted. And then it's like then
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  Speaker 3: NFL becomes even more fun somehow because then you're looking
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  Speaker 3: out for the guys that used to play for your
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  Speaker 3: favorite college team now in the professional levels. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: for me, that's been a lot of fun just following
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  Speaker 3: the Indiana– there's never been but, I don't know, three,
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  Speaker 3: four Indiana guys in the NFL at one given time.
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  Speaker 3: Now there's, I think, 15. So I think Kentucky will
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  Speaker 3: get to that point as well, and that will be
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  Speaker 3: a lot of fun to follow.
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  Speaker 2: What is a true expectation for IU fans nowadays? Have
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  Speaker 2: they gone over the edge? Are they spoiled now to
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  Speaker 2: the point where you're fully expecting to be not only
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  Speaker 2: in the college playoffs, but once again, competing for a
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  Speaker 2: national championship? Is it that unrealistic? Or let me ask you,
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  Speaker 2: is that unrealistic right now?
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  Speaker 3: With what we've seen out of Cignetti, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that is realistic. And that is 1000% the expectation. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: when he's come in and done what he did the
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  Speaker 3: first two years, he's lost two games. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 3: 30 and two as Indiana's coach. So yeah, the expectations
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  Speaker 3: are You want to be competing for those titles every
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  Speaker 3: single year. I mean, I'll be honest with you. Last
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  Speaker 3: weekend when Indiana beat Western Kentucky 38-0, I was mad.
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  Speaker 3: I was not happy with that result. If you would
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  Speaker 3: have told me that five years ago that we'd shut
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  Speaker 3: out Western Kentucky and beat them 38-0, I would have
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  Speaker 3: been through the roof happy. But I was upset, and
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  Speaker 3: that's what Cignetti's done to Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are now a victim of your own success
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  Speaker 2: right now. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it could
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  Speaker 2: potentially be a bad thing. I'm hoping Kentucky football is
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  Speaker 2: going to move that way. I want to do a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of housekeeping and just throw this out to
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  Speaker 2: any of the listeners out there. Please respond. Once again,
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  Speaker 2: Whiskey Thief text line 502-414-1450. Which Kentucky team is closer
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  Speaker 2: to the truth? The one that we saw stink it
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  Speaker 2: up in the second half against Alabama or the one
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  Speaker 2: that we saw at Texas A & M? That game
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  Speaker 2: at A & M, I know you all have talked
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  Speaker 2: about it ad nauseum this week, but I think it's
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  Speaker 2: worth talking about. That third quarter was literally one of
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  Speaker 2: the best quarters that I've ever seen Kentucky football play,
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  Speaker 2: and I've been watching them for probably the past 60 years. Literally, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: 60 years. I can't believe I'm even saying that right now.
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  Speaker 2: Was it one of the best upsets ever? Probably not,
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  Speaker 2: but it's up there. You know, I, like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of other people, think that game, that upset of number
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  Speaker 2: one at LSU, is probably at the top of the
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  Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore of UK upsets. For me personally, I attended
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  Speaker 2: two of the other ones that I think ranked above them.
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  Speaker 2: That was 2016 against Louisville, the Lamar Fumble game, where Kentucky,
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  Speaker 2: I think they were down, weren't they underdogs by four
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns that game? Think about it. Four touchdowns. touchdown underdog,
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  Speaker 2: on the road, Heisman candidate, they pull that one off.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe that's almost up there with that
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  Speaker 2: LSU victory, you know, from that standpoint. Then 2000, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it was 18, I was also down there,
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  Speaker 2: the Swamp in Florida. Kentucky had not beaten Florida in
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  Speaker 2: 31 years. And to pull that off, everybody in the
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  Speaker 2: press box was just shocked. I was kind of new
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  Speaker 2: on the media beat. And I was going, hey, this
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  Speaker 2: is great, fantastic. And then the old stalwarts who had
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  Speaker 2: been covering, actually covering Kentucky in the media for 50 years,
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  Speaker 2: people like Dick Gabriel and such were saying, Doc, you
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  Speaker 2: don't know what you just saw. I can't tell you
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  Speaker 2: the number of years that we've come down here and
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  Speaker 2: left with our tail tucked between our legs. You come
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  Speaker 2: down here to the swamp the first time. and they
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  Speaker 2: win the whole thing. It's like IU fans with Cignetti. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little bit spoiled. I expect Kentucky to beat
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  Speaker 2: Florida now as a media member. But that's how those
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  Speaker 2: things go. So I would rank those two right up
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  Speaker 2: there with them. But just coming off of the game,
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  Speaker 2: the second half against Bama, and to see Kentucky just
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  Speaker 2: punch those Aggies in the mouth, it was bully ball. Literally,
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  Speaker 2: they took it to them. in front of 105,000 people.
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Field, I was down there the last time when
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  Speaker 2: Kentucky took him to overtime but lost. That place is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic. Have you ever been down there by any chance?
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  Speaker 3: I have not. No, there's not many other college football
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  Speaker 3: stadiums that I have been to. I've seen Michigan's up
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  Speaker 3: in Ann Arbor, but I've never been to a game there. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I've hardly had my eyes on any other stadium, which
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  Speaker 3: is why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Horseshoe at Ohio State, that's another big one. I
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  Speaker 2: went there for one game. I'm like you. I've looked
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  Speaker 2: out over that Michigan Bowl, but I've never been there
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  Speaker 2: when they actually played. Penn State, Happy Valley is another,
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  Speaker 2: I think, bucket list item. Believe it or not, I
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  Speaker 2: have done all the road venues in the SEC except Arkansas,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to Oklahoma this year.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And I have not done what I think is the
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  Speaker 2: top one, and that's Tiger Stadium, LSU, Death Valley.
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  Speaker 3: That would be the top of my bucket list.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, from that standpoint.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for our first break. I want to be
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  Speaker 2: at least a little bit early, if not on time
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  Speaker 2: for that one. Take the monkey off my back.
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  Speaker 3: Dr. John.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be right back with you. after our first break
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: just the cats with dr john huang.
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  Speaker 4: And they stay there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, I can't hear any of it, so I
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  Speaker 2: assume I'll bop along to a little bit of nothing.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot to tell you that, yeah. You won't be
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  Speaker 3: able to hear the music, but you can hear everything else.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I assume we are back. Is that correct?
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  Speaker 3: We're back, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, everybody. I appreciate you listening in.
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  Speaker 2: Bluegrass Recruiting tweets in. Kentucky Kwongs, what did you say?
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  Speaker 3: I think....
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  Speaker 2: He's inferring that maybe I said a cuss word during
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  Speaker 2: that first segment. Did you hear a cuss word? I
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: don't think I said any cuss word at all. No.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Speaking of cuss words, evidently our Kentucky football coach,
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  Speaker 2: Will Stein, has a little bit of a potty mouth.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of a potty mouth. Some of his comments
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  Speaker 2: have been well documented, not only the semi-private ones in
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  Speaker 2: the locker room after the big wins, but even publicly.
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  Speaker 2: He's been known to let out a couple of cuss
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  Speaker 2: words and F-bomb here occasionally. I wanted to know from a...
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  Speaker 2: I guess an unbiased opinion such as yourself, Justin, and
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  Speaker 2: for any of the listeners out there, how do you
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  Speaker 2: feel about the coach at the University of Kentucky having
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  Speaker 2: such a prolific vocabulary today? in terms of these words.
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  Speaker 2: What say ye?
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  Speaker 3: It really is funny because it's so different than Mark Pope, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like year one, we thought we saw Mark Pope say
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  Speaker 3: a BS on national TV and it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Was like, whoa, Mark Pope cussed, holy smokes.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: And then you see, what did it for me was
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: not only some of the media stuff where he slipped
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: up and dropped some F-bombs or whatnot, but what did
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: it for me this past week was when they put
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: the uncut video out and he was doing his pregame
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: speech and it was every other word in that pregame speech.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, what is happening here? But I mean,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: for me, I don't have a problem with it, especially
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: when it comes to the game of football. You listen
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: to football coaches and it does seem like more times
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: than not, they have a, a rougher mouth than coaches
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: of other sports. I don't know why that is. I
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's just because of the violence of
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: the game and maybe that brings that out of you.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I've never played football and never, obviously never coached football.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: So I don't know the mindset with all that, but yeah,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I've never really had an issue with a football coach
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: cussing that way.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I'll, I'll have to kind of, They say confession is
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: good for the soul. It's true. But I also did
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: not have any problem with that. Sports, it's different. It
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: is part of the culture. And a lot of the
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: cussing that you hear Stein do in public, you almost
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: have to be there to kind of feel the emotion
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: of the moment. When you see something like that out
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: in writing, it just comes across as a little bit different.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Believe it or not, we had this conversation at church
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: the other day. And I am a God-fearing Christian Christ
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: follower who has gone to my church, Centenary Church, for
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: probably 30 years. And I brought up this fact in
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Sunday school. And I think I made the bad mistake
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: of telling people what I just told you, that it
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: really doesn't bother me. And you would have thought I
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: had insulted the Pope after I said that. It was like,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: how can you... They were kind of steering bullets through me.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: And I kind of followed it up. I doubled down
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: by saying, no, if it means a fiery coach who
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: can inspire his team to win more ballgames, then I'm
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: all for it. Once again, maybe it was the wrong
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: thing to say in that particular environment. But I truly
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: felt that way. I've seen since seeing a lot of
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: people on social media, mostly Christians, come out against the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: fact that, hey, he shouldn't be doing this and we
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be encouraging this at all. I'm a little bit
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: conflicted on that. Yeah. It's one of these things I
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: go back and forth. Yes, he is the leader of
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: a university. When he's talking about yelling obscenities at the
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: opposing team and the fans and sneaking in flask into
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the ballgame, you probably shouldn't do that. You should draw
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the line. But once again, it's context. He said that
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: when he came on a fan radio show trying to
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: inspire fans the legions of fans out there just to
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: be rowdy, to be loud, to be louder than they've
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: ever been at Kroger Field. I think you got to
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: cut them a little bit of slack from that standpoint. Plus,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: we always talk about how we want our football coaches
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to be authentic. You don't want him being somebody that
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: he's not. This is who we signed up for. This
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: is Will Stein. And once again, I hate to say it,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: if If he goes again and pulls off more upsets
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: like he did against Texas A & M, then so
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: be it. Throw out the F-bombs.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, and I'm glad you brought up the
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: authenticity part of that because that's what I'm sitting here
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: thinking the whole time is you want your head coach
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: to be themselves. You don't want them to try to
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: switch who they are just because it's what the fan
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: base would want. You want them to be exactly who
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: they are, and that's what you're seeing out of Will Stein.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So I'm glad you brought that part of it up.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: The last thing we want is to head into a
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Mark Stoops. You know Mark Stoops would have cussed up
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: a storm, too, if he could. And yet, what did
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: we see at his media conferences? What did we see
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: at his press conferences? Every one of his answers was extremely,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: extremely guarded. He always felt like, okay, if I say this,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: you guys are going to take that and you're going
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: to twist it around and it's going to be a big,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: big headline. So he ended up not really saying anything.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: We want coaches who tell us like whatever they're thinking, right?
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: We want ones who are fiery, who are committed. And
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I hope that doesn't change. It's just like Arch Manning now.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Right now, because of the little brouhaha that he got
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: from the Holly Roe video and the fact that he
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: laughed due to an answer from a press conference, we're
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: not going to see him say anything remotely authentic or
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: controversial from here on in, you're going to get a very,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: very sterile Arch Manning.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: And I don't want that to happen to Will Stein.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Also, I wanted to add on. So I'm kind of
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: conflicted with it as well, whether it's a good thing
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: or not, especially if you're in like a church setting
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: discussing that. But at the end of the day, I
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: know cussing is technically like a sin, but it's just
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: a word, right? It's just a word.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: It's how you interpret it. It's like the Bible itself.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Is it literal? Is it metaphorical? No. What is the
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: message that's being conveyed to you? How are you being
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: able to interpret it? How is the Holy Spirit speaking
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to you from that standpoint? If I were Will Stein,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't cuss because that's not me. And once again,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: that goes back to the authenticity part of it. But
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: once again, look where we are in sports and what
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: other region of society is Could you literally cuss somebody out?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Could you berate an official like coaches do from the
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: sidelines and still not get away with it? In normal society,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you would be arrested for some of those actions. It's true.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: All right. If you have a couple of texts on
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the text line, go ahead and read them out to me,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and we'll see if we can dissect those.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: All right. John texted in. He says, hey, Dr. Wong,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Trevor will do just fine. Justin would never leave you
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: in a bad situation. Also, I wanted to say I
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: have our football cats winning by 21 big ones. Hey,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: if our cats do that, then we should be ranked, right? Well,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: got to go talk to you later. All right. Well, thanks, John.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I will reserve judgment for your first comment. until 10
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: o'clock today. We'll see if we're still standing. In regard
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to your second point, I do think that South Alabama
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: game is going to be pretty defining. How is Kentucky
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: going to respond after getting a good dose of rainbow
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and balloons and everything good? Are they going to kind
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: of put their guard down? Human nature is to kind
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: of relax a little bit. But as Will Stein said,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: It is not only one game at a time, it
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: is one play at a time. If he can truly
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: go ahead and drill that into the players' minds, and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Kentucky comes out and not only wins by two or
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: three or four touchdowns, but dominates that game like they should,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and how many times has he said, we do what
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: we should. We beat Youngstown State because we should beat
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Youngstown State soundly. They should beat South Alabama pretty soundly. Evidently,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Sunbelt Conference, The Jaguars, they're two and one so far
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: this year. They beat Southeast Louisiana. They beat Ohio. They
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: lost to Tulane. This is a team that you should
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: just go ahead and pound right from the get-go. I'll
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: be surprised if it's close at halftime. What do you say, Justin?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Kentucky wins this game comfortably. When I
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: hear that text from John, I'm thinking 21, that's it?
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Because realistically, it should be 30, 35, somewhere in that range.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: If I'm If I'm looking for my team to be
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: ranked next week, I have got to see a 30-point
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: win at least. 21 points, I don't know if I
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: bump Kentucky up into that top 25. But you're right,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: this is a team that you should beat pretty handily.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, just like you did with Youngstown State, should
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: be a similar type result here with South Alabama. But
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: it is a sandwich game, like you mentioned. I mean,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: you're smashed between Texas A & M. Hopefully they're not
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: looking forward to South Carolina next week. And if they're
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: not and if they're focused on what they need to
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: do tomorrow, it should be an easy, easy win.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I really know nothing about South Alabama. Just a few
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: little tidbits that I've read. Evidently a very, very tough
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: running game. They've got like this three-headed running back combo.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: They've got a veteran offensive line. So I think if
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Kentucky can focus in on the run and just control
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage from a defensive standpoint, they should
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: be able to hopefully shut this team out. They're a
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: little bit uncertain at quarterback. I know their starter got hurt,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Bishop Davenport. He's evidently one of these dual threat guys
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that Kentucky traditionally has had trouble dealing with dual threat quarterbacks.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: But last game, Jared Hollins, who's more of a pocket passer,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: came in. I don't know. Let's see if Kentucky can
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: get a little bit of a pass rush, something that's
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: also been lacking for all those years in the Stoops era. Yeah,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: let's say they win by 35 points. Where are you
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: putting them? Are you putting them, what, just barely cracking
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the top 25?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 23, 24, somewhere in that range.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Were you surprised from a poll standpoint that They weren't ranked.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised at all that they weren't ranked. The
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: fact that A & M was so far still ahead
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: of them after being thrashed was probably, I won't say
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: surprising because I know how polls work. They're basically based
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: on preseason rankings, right? Right now, if a team is
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: ranked very, very high in the preseason and they lose
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: a couple of games, it takes two weeks to drop
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: them out of the polls and That's probably not the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: way to do it. I don't think you should have
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: any preseason rankings, but on the other hand, if you
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: don't do that, then there's not a whole lot for
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: us talking heads to be talking about.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I think if you get them in,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: like I said, 23, 24, and that would be great.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, at any point in this season, did you
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: expect to be in the top 25? Because coming in,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I certainly did.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not at all. This is a pleasant surprise.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It's almost like gravy now. Will Stein, this whole year
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: for Kentucky, he gets a pass on that. Unless they
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: just get blown out every game by 50 points, he's
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: going to be okay. I think fans are going to
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: be very, very happy. He's already got his signature upset win.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Anything else from here on in will just add to
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: this legacy that hopefully he's going to be be extending.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: You said you had another text for me.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: There is another text. Yep. Another one from Johnny says,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I believe it is the team we saw against a
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: and M look, if we look at that game, also
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: look at a little over half of the game against Alabama.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Plus what we've seen in the full game against Youngstown,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: then that is your team. that is your true team
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: a quarter and a half against Alabama was bad but
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: it is not the common denominator in this factor on
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: how good our football cats are got to go talk
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: to you later.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Once again I do hope that is is true uh
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I am preaching to myself right now I'm one of
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: these fans that gets overly excited with a big victory
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: and overly depressed with a big loss. I think my
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: problem with sports is the same way that I handle
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the stock market. All right. I am reactive rather than proactive.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I base how my team is going to end up
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: doing the next week based strictly on how they perform
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: the past week. And just like with an NFL, we
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: said it's week to week. Nothing is guaranteed. You just
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: don't Don't know. There are trends and you do have
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: to watch out for trends. But to say you stunk
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: it up one week means you're going to stink it
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: up the next week. I think that's a little bit
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: premature and vice versa.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: And I mean, you obviously you want to look at
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: recent results that I mean, any any level of sports.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can talk about horse racing. You can
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: talk about any level of sport that you want. Recent
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: results matter. And what you saw recently, the most recently
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: out of Kentucky, was a really, really good football program that, again,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: shouldn't have any issue with South Alabama. Now you look
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: up and down the schedule, there's a lot more wins
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: there or a lot more potential wins than you saw
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: in the preseason. I mean, the fact that earlier this
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: week on my show I was talking about potentially getting
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: into the playoff. Wait, what for Kentucky, a team that
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I predicted a few months ago to have four wins
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: on the season. That is, that is nuts. What one
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: big win can do to a program. And you're seeing that.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I predicted seven at the beginning of the year. You
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: can go ahead and check the tape. Uh, but I
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: didn't expect the a and M I did think they
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: were beat Alabama. So those two have kind of canceled
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: each other out. I am I am on track. Do
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: they burn couches up at IU? Did couches burn after
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: the national championship?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Not that I know of. I don't remember. Now I
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: know like the downtown area or by all the bars,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: they got pretty, pretty raucous, but I don't remember. I
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: don't remember couches burning, but I could be wrong on that.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: So burning couches may be more specifically a UK thing.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Because they burned couches on State Street after the A
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: & M win. And I'm not sure that is deserved.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: For Kentucky football fans, I know we don't have a
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: whole lot to celebrate and cheer about. So a big,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: big win is cause for massive celebration. But I think
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: burning couches, that almost needs to be reserved for national
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: championship type. type deals. I know with basketball, it truly is,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: but I just don't want to cheapen the tradition. If
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: you know what I.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Mean, I don't think it'll happen moving forward. I mean,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: that was a signature win the first ever. top 10
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: win for Will Stein and his first ever attempt at
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: a top 10 win. That was a, it did feel
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: like a moment that was deserved of burning couches. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: get what you're saying. Normally it should be for the
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: top of the top when you win a championship. But
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I think with that moment signified for Kentucky football and
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: just letting everybody know that, Hey, Will Stein, he's the
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: truth that this is really our guy. I mean, we
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: thought that before the season, but then you come out
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: and you win a game like that. So I just
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: think with what that game signified, Maybe it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Was more a reflection of pent-up frustrations over all the
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: years of football futility. Then you get this big win.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: But if they beat South Alabama, even by 40 points,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: no couches need to be burned. All right? No field rushing.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Nothing like that.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: It's time for our second break. When we come back,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I am going to have a very, very deep discussion
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: about with Justin Kalen about something I heard him and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Michael Bennett arguing about the other day. All right, we'll
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: be back after this. Stay tuned. Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Let's go. All right.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. This is Dr. John Huang sitting in the
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: left seat of Just the Cats this morning. I've got
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: my co-pilot in the right seat, Justin Kalin. I've got
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: about 10 minutes before you bail out on me, Justin.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: So I understand we have a couple more texts coming in.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: If you want to go ahead and read those.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: First one from Jamie. He says, listen, I'm sick of
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: hearing about polls. Unless it's the kind you swing from,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I'm done with it. Scoots knows what I'm talking about.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: He loves to make it rain. Suck it, Scoots, and
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: check the back seat.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Ha ha ha. All right.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: 48 Handley says, so lack of depth was a reason
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: suggested for Kentucky's fate in the second half against Alabama.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Why was that lack of depth not apparent against the Aggies?
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe Alabama's stronger in the trenches than A & M
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: That's a very, very valid point. And I think that's
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: going to be one of the biggest question marks heading
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: down this stretch. The SEC, as everybody knows, is brutal.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Injuries are going to hit. It's not when. It's not if.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: It's when they're going to hit. And especially late in
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the season, it's going to be the walking wounded, I'm afraid.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: And Kentucky depth-wise just is not going to be able
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: to match up. Stein has pretty much acknowledged that he
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: feels pretty good about the first string, feels pretty good
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: about half of the second string. Once you get beyond that,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be potentially disastrous if Kentucky
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: has to go with any of those guys deep in
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: their depth charts. It's just not going to happen. Injuries
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: are part of the game, and unfortunately, if there's going
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: to be a downfall, I think that's going to be
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Kentucky's downfall.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I'd agree with that wholeheartedly. All right, that's all we got.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: All right, I heard here you and Michael– you all
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: have great chemistry together. I don't think that you all
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: really disagree with each other on too many different facets.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Not normally, no.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or let me put it this way. You all,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: it seems, would disagree on a lot more than you do.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: You manage to kind of keep it cordial. You kind of,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I won't say kiss up to him somewhat, but you
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: know who's driving the train, right? Sure, yeah. So, yeah,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: you don't want to make him mad.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Now, that being said, that being said, I do think
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: we had a pretty bad week in terms of agreements.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Like we, we didn't, I don't feel like we agreed
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: on anything.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There was one that really jumped out at me and,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: and not for any specific overall general reason, but just
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: a couple of things that personally resonated with, with me.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: And one of the reasons I wanted to bring it
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: up was that I was completely on Michael's side.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, here we go.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Until, until Justin's, um, persuasion tactics completely swayed me over.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: In fact, I don't change my mind. I don't flip
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: 180 within a span of an argument very often. My
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: mind is very analytical. I'll dive into it. I'll do
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: a little research. I'll kind of weigh the pros and cons.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I know you're curious about what I'm going to say.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: This was the back and forth that you had in
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: regard to Carly Irsay Gordon, the The owner of the Colts.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Right.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Michael came out, and he was strictly against... The little
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: background for those who don't know what I'm talking about is,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: during that last game, there were a lot of shots
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: of her right on the sidelines. And evidently, she does.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: That a lot. Every game.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: She's down there, fingers in the pot. She's got her
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: headphones on. She's listening to all the sidelines. Cause got
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: a little notepad in her hand. She's like kind of
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: taking notes from that, that standpoint. And she looked like that.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: She was really concerned and knew what she was doing.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: And Michael's argument was that she should not be down there,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: that this was the epitome of micromanagement. And there's nothing
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: that people dislike more than somebody who sticks their nose
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: in their business in which they don't need to be,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: be doing that. There are GMs. There are coaches that
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: you hire for that kind of stuff. You as the owner, you,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: need to be hands off. That was my take when
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: the argument first started. But then you jumped in, which
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I thought was a very, very salient point, was that
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: now she's doing it because she wants what's best for
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: her team, right? That's reasonable. Is that not right? Is
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: that not correct?
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: That's reasonable.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I got to thinking, all right, Let me
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: think back to all my bosses that I've had over
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: the course of the years. Which were the good ones?
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Which were the bad ones? Which were the ones that
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: were involved? Which were the ones that were hands-off? Which
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: were the ones that micromanaged? Which were the ones that delegated?
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: And ultimately, how did the success of the organization correlate
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: with whether they were hands-on or hands-off? And for me,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: the answer was unequivocally, the organizations that excelled were the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: ones in which the bosses were in on it. They
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: were day-to-day. They were micromanaging to extent, for lack of
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: a better word. So when I thought about that, I said,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: you know, Justin has a point there. I would, as
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: a player, as a coach, I probably wouldn't want anybody
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: looking over my shoulder. But that accountability is what we
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: all need in an organization that's successful. I went completely
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: 180 from this person doesn't need to be down there to, man,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: All owners need to be down there. They need to
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: be doing what she's doing at this point. What say you,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: what more do you have to add to that?
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: It's not like she's my thing with it all is
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: it's not like she's in the middle of the coaches
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: and the players. Like she's not in the middle of
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: the sideline, like on the front lines with, with their
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: head coach. She's more times than not. If you see
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: her during, and I've been to probably six, seven Colts
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: games the last two, three years since she, since she
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: took over. More times than not, she's by herself. She's
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: on the end of the sideline just doing her own thing,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: paying attention to her little notepad and what's going on
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: with the game. So as a player and as a coach,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think that would be something that I would
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: let freak me out. I mean, it's our owner. And
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: if you keep the mindset of, well, she just wants
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: what's best for the organization, then I think it's A-OK.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have an issue with it at all.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: So how do you think that's different from somebody like
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: a Jerry Jones? He's often been castigated as somebody who
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: is probably too much involved, right? He's in there doing
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: everybody else's job and he enjoys the limelight too. Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: But I don't think that's the case with her. She's
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: not out seeking to become a public name, at least
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: in my opinion. I don't think that's the case. Whereas
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: with Jerry, yeah, he is very, I mean, a lot
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: of the same ways you described Michael at the beginning
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: of the show, you could say the exact same thing
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: for Jerry Jones. So he wants to be known. He
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: wants to be gregarious and with the people. I mean,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: all those same things you said were, would be true
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: about him as well. But, I mean, there's a certain
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: way to run a team. I mean, obviously, I can't
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: knock Jerry Jones. He bought the Cowboys for, what, $ 100 million,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: and it's now worth $ 15 billion or whatever it is.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: So he's done something right throughout that time. There's no
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: doubt about that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Ultimately, they're the owner. They can do what they want.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: But you didn't end up convincing Michael in any way, shape,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: or form. So you've got to kind of work on it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: on that. My question then to the listeners out there
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: then is think about the bosses that you've had and
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: tell me, text me in what is the worst boss
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you ever had and why was he bad? Was it
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: because he was a micromanager? Was it because he didn't care?
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Let me know. Worst boss you ever had and why?
• 42:35
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• 42:42
  Speaker 2: at Kentucky Wongs, K-Y-H-U-A-N-G-S.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Can I bring up a situation now that we're on
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: this that I read yesterday? So speaking of bad owners,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: the Reds general manager, he wanted to make all kinds
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: of trades. Basically what the Brewers do, he wanted to
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: sell the top talent, bring in guys that can help
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: the team win now. Basically guys that you can develop
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: for years and years and years. That's how the Brewers
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: have done it. That's what our GM wanted to do.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: The owner came out, and this story was dropped by
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: The Athletic yesterday, and he basically nixed all that. He said, nope,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: we're not getting rid of any of the top talent.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: We're not doing things the way Milwaukee does. So that,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: to me, is an example of bad ownership. I mean,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: you've got to trust your GM. Let them do their job.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: I think Carly Ursae Gordon does a good job of that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: She's not making, she's not the end-all be-all for every
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: decision like you get with the Reds organization. And that's
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: ultimately why the Reds are going to be horrible for
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: the rest of time.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: A lot of it also is, is perception. I think with, uh,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: with Ursae Gordon, the fact that they showed her in,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: in that position and kind of focused on that brought
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: a heck of a lot more attention to that than
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: maybe that it, it deserved. Hmm. As far as Reds ownership,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I think one of the problems is they're just way
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: too cheap on everything.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And to follow up on that, there was a story
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: that came out that they charge, they evidently, they require
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: the players to pay for like Cokes out of the
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Coke machine. Isn't that one of the craziest things you
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: ever heard about?
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: By the way, precursor to what you're getting into with Trevor,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: you ready?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I'm taking notes.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: He texts me and says if she wanted what was
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: best for the team, she would sell it because her family,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: the Urses, are the biggest bunch of losers ever to
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: own a franchise. There you go.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: He must not. Either Trevor is just a diehard Colts
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: fan or he's just a Indianapolis Colts hater. I would
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: say it's probably the former.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: It'd be the latter, actually. He's a big Eagles fan.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I see.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: All right. See, these are the things that I need
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: to know about. I tried to tell Michael, hey, can
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: you give me Trevor's phone number so I can at
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: least call the guy and kind of see what he's
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: all about? You know me, I like to do a
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: little bit of preparation beforehand. Now I'm just being caught blind.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: You talk about going off of my comfort zone. Now
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I'm really shaking in my boots. I got four minutes
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: until your parachute opens right now. Yeah. Yeah. Help me out.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Tell me something more about Trevor, okay? Give me a
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: few things I can maybe prepare for in these four minutes.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: He's also an Indiana Pacers fan. Big Louisville guy, so
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: he's probably going to rib you a lot. Unlike me,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I've been working in Kentucky radio long enough where I
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: kind of have a soft spot for Kentucky, whereas his
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: heart is still kind of hardened when it comes to
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: the Cats. So you'll have to deal with that. Crazy voice.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: He's got a.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: So get ready for that.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: That's a good radio voice then, right?
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some would say. Yeah, absolutely. But, I mean, no,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: everything else you're just going to have to figure out.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: He's a unique individual.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I understand he's also a big culture. I saw on
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: his little Twitter handle there that he's into pop culture
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: and things like that, trivia.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Movies, music.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. All right. Speaking of movies, did you see
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: the preview for the new Madden movie that's coming out?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet. No, but I'm excited about that.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: It's Nicolas Cage. Yeah. is John Madden.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: He put on, I think 130 pounds for that role.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, I, I didn't know whether he stuffed the pillow
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: into a shirt or whatever. The hair, the hair makes
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: it look funny. I don't know if this was satire
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: or it's meant to be a very, very historical portrayal,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: but it can go both ways. I don't know if
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: it's going to be an outright comedy or it's going
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: to be one of these historical films. It's going to,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: be iconic from years on in. I think Christian Bale
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: is playing the owner on that. So we'll kind of
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: see what the interaction is between those two.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, if it's a movie about Madden, it's going
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: to have its silly moments. You know that.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Well, just because of who he was. And what I
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: thought was interesting was not only his coaching career, but
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: according to the trailer, it goes into how he helped
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: develop the Madden game from that standpoint.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited about it, for sure.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: All right, one final thing before I let you go.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: You're in the Louisville area. Have you had sissy cakes before?
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: I tried it when Michael bought one for Corey Price
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: for his birthday, so I tried it for the first time.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Very tasty.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: That's honest opinion, right? Yeah. I've seen people rant and
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: rave about it. I'm really wanting to try it. So
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: if anyone wants to go ahead and send me a
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: sissy gag, then I'll be more than glad to write
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: up a formal review for that.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: There you go. There you have it. I think I
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: will be back with you on the other side, though,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: for what it's worth. Okay.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: All right. All right. Great. Fantastic.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Like the ceiling can't hold us Can we go back?
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: This is the moment Tonight is the night We'll fight
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: till it's over So we put our hands up Like
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: the ceiling can't hold.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Us Welcome to Just the Cats with Michael Bennett.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Once again, this is not Michael Bennett. Dr. John Huang
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: here for the second hour of Just the Cats. I've
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: got Justin Kalin here for me, with me for just
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: a couple more minutes here before he bails out and
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: then the awkwardness will begin. We'll see what happens then.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: But Justin, we have a couple of questions still out
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: there on the text line. Which Kentucky team is going
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: to be showing up? The one that played the second
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: half against Alabama or the one that demolished Texas A
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: & M? And then also, who is the worst boss
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: that you ever had and why was that the case?
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: You haven't really answered the second question yet. I didn't
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: know if you... were just purposely going to be tiptoeing
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: around it because of the people that you're working for
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: right now, but if that's the case, I certainly understand.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: No, honestly, for me, I've never really had a bad boss. Now,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: I did work at a restaurant down when I was
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: living in Jacksonville, and our GM was At the time,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: he could be an ass from time to time, but
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: more times than not, that was because he was just
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: hammer drum. I mean, he was hammered 24-7.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: That could make a difference. Yeah, that could make a difference.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I never really held that against him. But other than him,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: I really haven't had any bad bosses. I've been very
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: fortunate in that regard.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: My worst one was I was in the military for
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: 10 years, and we had several bosses come and go.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I think my worst one was a lieutenant colonel who
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: was always intent on taking the credit for everything that
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: went right and assigning blame for everything that went wrong.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I know people have had bosses like that. And in
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: organizations that want to be successful, you know that does
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: not work. Even in sports teams, it's amazing how much
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: you can accomplish when you don't care who gets the
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: credit on that. One for all.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: It's true. And we do have a text regarding this
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: on the text line. This comes from Patrick Murphy. He says,
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Then in Rochester, my boss of a small-town newspaper wanted
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: me to live in the town, except living 30 minutes away,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: which I did. I was the only sports reporter for
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: the newspaper. I lived far away because I wanted to
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: be near my hobbies and a bigger town. That brought
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: me down to southern Indiana, and he lets us know
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: the job in Mississippi was August 2019 to October 2020.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: He wants to be pretty specific about that so we
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: know exactly who he's talking about. I think the idea
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: of calling people out in front of other people is
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: also very, very significant. In any type of seminar or
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: relationship building exercises, you always realize that you're working with
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: other human beings. People have natural emotions and people do
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: not want to be embarrassed in front of other people.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Any time that I was always dealing with employees, and
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: in my case, it was a little bit different in
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: an orthodontic office. you were always dealing with, don't want
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: to sound sexist, but women, and you had to deal
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: with women in a little bit different way that you
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: had to deal with men. Took me a little while
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: to understand that, but once I got the hang of it,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think they hated me from then on in.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Another text says, another good question, the worst team owners
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: in sports. Worst boss was someone that made policy changes
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: without understanding the ramifications. Some bosses just make changes to
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: leave their mark.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's... That's a great point. I'm trying
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: to see how that's going to relate to the difference
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: between a Mitch Barnhart and a Jay Bat, two very,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: very different modus operandi, two evidently very different personalities. And
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: they're dealing in different cultures and different time areas of sports.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Radical changes going on. It'll be interesting to see how
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: that shakes out.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Texter also says, I hear sissy cakes and all I
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: can think of is Terry Funk asking, are you a sissy?
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: All right. That laugh you heard in the background, Dr. John,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: that is Trevor. I'm going to let him take the seat.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: I will talk to you on Monday. Sound good?
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: All right. That sounds fantastic. Thanks for everything. Appreciate all
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: you do.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: All right. I am preparing myself to interact with the legendary, legendary, legendary, Trevor,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I've heard a lot about this Trevor guy and able
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: to actually see him on my phone screen and to
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: be able to hear his voice is going to be
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: something that I know I am always going to remember forever. Trevor,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: how the heck are you? Can you hear me now?
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: I can hear you, my bad. Sorry, buddy.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, no, no, no problem. Listen, I was I hear
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: you occasionally on the Kentucky roll call. And what I
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: want to say to you right off the bat is
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I think Steven Peake speaks way too much. I want
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: to hear a lot more of what Trevor has to
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: say during all this, because I know there's a lot
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: of wisdom and I'm not just trying to butter you up. Well,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: maybe a little bit because I want our initial interaction
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: to go kind of smoothly, but What say you about
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Steven Peake and all of his ideas?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: First of all, nice to meet you. Doctor, did I
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: hear it correctly?
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: In my former life, I was an orthodontist. I created
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: beautiful smiles.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Well, so I'm a nightmare to you.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: I'm the one that you would look at and go,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: my kids are going to Stanford day, baby. Yeah, can't
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: wait to build this SOB.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: You're like money in the bank, right?
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: I could have put three generations of Hong through college.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Did I pronounce that right, by the way? I apologize.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: It's Wong. It's Dr. Wong.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I apologize.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can call me anything you want.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Hong is what they called you in college, right?
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That and a lot worse. I made the
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: pivot about.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can't believe it's been 12 years. You know,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: I straightened teeth, created beautiful smiles for about 30 years,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: and then decided life is too short, that I wanted
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: to always kind of pursue my passions. And I've always
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: loved sports. I've always loved writing. So I said, okay,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: why don't I just go ahead and write about sports,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: specifically University of Kentucky sports. I became a sports writer.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I love it. It's a heck of a lot more fun. But, uh,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: it doesn't pay quite nearly as much as what I
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: previously did.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Well, did all the important things that did let you
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: keep some of that morphine and laughing gas to take
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: home with you? Cause you know, that's the case. And
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: you know, well, one, that would help you being a
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: UK fan, but.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Two, Oh, okay. Shots fired right off the bat. Right.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: But two, you know, we, I do work in trade
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: in case you're wondering. That's all I'm just saying just
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think after all those years of Kentucky
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: football futility, I could use a little bit of nitrous
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: oxide every once in a while.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Now, you are a U.K. guy.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Have been for 60 years. Diehard U.K. 60 years. Yeah.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: My family moved to Lexington when I was eight years old.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: And every eight-year-old boy in 1967 wanted to be Dan Essel,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: myself included. Only two problems. I was too short and
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: I wasn't any good.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Well, neither was most of Rupp's runs. That didn't stop
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: them either.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: They were just before my time. Actually, Phil Argento ahead
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: of time was probably the first UK player I followed.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: And then, of course, Dan came on, Mike Pratt, Mike Casey,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: those years. Fantastic. I was hooked and became a big,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: big University of Kentucky sports fan from then on in.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Well, not the football, though. I mean, I don't hear
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: any love for Bill Randall in there from 1980.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Well, there was a little bit. You know, I came,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I remember a couple of upsets. John Ray, they had big,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: big hopes for him. He came from Notre Dame. And
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: I remember, I think it was the second or third game,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: they upset Ole Miss, who was ranked at the time.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss had a great quarterback. You may have heard
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: of him, Archie Manning.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: At the time that's the guy who plays for texas right.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Well yeah that's his grand nephew or whoever there's so
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: many of those guys out there right now who knows
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: what's what's going on with that family but no kentucky
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: football has had a few ups and downs more downs
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: and ups over the course of the year but this
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: year hope springs eternal.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: This is going to be the year Sounds like someone
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: did get to take home some nitroxide. And someone might
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: want to check that valve. It might be leaking there. No,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I guess, I mean, right now, so as someone who,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: because I'm used to, you know, Michael obviously is older.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: It's nice the way I can say he's decrepit, is older.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm usually the oldest one here until I get
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: to hang out with Michael and you now as well.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: How does it feel like– I mean, I heard you
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: talking about Will Stein. I heard you talking about burning couches.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, where does this rank? You as somebody who–
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: as a little fan, I grew up weirdly going to
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of U.K. games in the late 80s, early 90s.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: My uncle was a season ticket holder. This might come
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: as a shock to anybody but you. Tickets were not
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: hard to come by to the point where he would
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: use two tickets, one to start the game, halftime, go
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: out to the car– get loaded more, and then use
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: the other ticket to get in the second half. Because
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: you couldn't give them away, obviously. Yeah, literally. Two words,
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Bill Curry, okay? So, yeah, that didn't remind you.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Probably Bill Curry, one of the biggest disappointments in terms
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: of coaching for the pedigree that supposedly he had to
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: end up failing as much as he did.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Well, the guy went 10 games in Auburn, and they
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: burned crosses in his yard in Alabama because his one
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: loss was against Auburn. I think he lost to them
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: four years in a row. All four years he was
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: there at Alabama, he lost to Auburn every four. He
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: had two 10-win seasons. They still ran him out of town.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: You can't lose Auburn if you're an Alabama coach.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: At least not that many times. And for the record,
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: anybody who ever said to a Bill Curry game, you're
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: probably wondering to yourself, wow, your uncle's got some real strength.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I'd have gone after every quarter and got loaded and
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: come back in because that's what that option offense did
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: to you. So I guess the long story short, if
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: possible at this point, is that like– You had the
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Tim Couch, kind of the early Howe Mummy excitement, the
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: air raid. Seven wins, not a lot, but still at
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: that point, seven wins to UK football was like going
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: undefeated pretty much at that point in the program. And
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: now we've evolved a little as well in a lot
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: of other programs. God help me, Indiana, too. Where do
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: you feel, Will Stein? You've seen the lows. You've seen
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: the bottom of the lows. You've been so low with
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: UK that you have Buffalo Bob dropping down lotions and
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: telling you to put it on the skin. Otherwise, it
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: gets the hose again. That's how low it's been. You've
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: been with UK. How do you feel about Will Stein?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Are you excited? Do you not need that nitrous oxide
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: anymore to get a smile on your face? Where do
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: we do?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Trevor, as we get a little bit older, we like
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: to think that we get a little bit wiser. The
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: young John Wong... would have been really pumped up saying,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: this is the year. We're going to be like IU
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: right now. This is a new era. NIL, you can
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: buy players. It's just going to be a matter of time.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Hopefully within a year or two, Kentucky will be in
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: the playoffs and competing for a national championship. The older,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: more mature, hey, I've seen it all, John Wong says,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: the more things change, the more things remain the same.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: This is Kentucky football. You're playing big boy football against
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: all these other members of the SEC. It's not like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: they're not getting any better. It's not like they're not
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: going to the ends of the earth to buy players.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: It's not like they're not building up their depth charts. No,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: you have to continuously compete against these guys. So I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: am saying, yes, I am cautiously optimistic, but I'm still
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: pumping the brakes. I had a great friend who has
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: since passed way too early. His name was Lonnie Demery.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you knew him. He had the moniker,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: the mayor of UK football. He wrote a lot for
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: things like the Catspaws. He somehow took pity on me
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: when I became a new media member, took me under
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: his wing and essentially showed me the ropes. And I
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: remember I would get so excited when Kentucky would go
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: through these periods in which they look like they had
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: turned the corner. I would get so depressed when they
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: would drop back down to 1-10, 2-8-1, whatever. And he
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: would always say, John, you never are as good as
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: you look. You're never as bad as you look. You
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: just have to evaluate each game, each season as it goes.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Never get your hopes too high. Just watch the game,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: evaluate based on numbers, based on statistics, based on what
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: your eyes see. So given all of that, The answer
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: to your question, Trevor, is that cautiously optimistic. I like Stein.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: I like the way that he's approached things, but we're
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: going to have to wait and see. As the year
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: goes on, injuries are going to kick in. He's got
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: a free pass this year regardless. People are going to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: be fine unless he loses by 50 points, unless he
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: gets blown out by Louisville. Then, of course, the Natives
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: are going to get a little bit restless, but No,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: this year is a free year. I like what I'm
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: seeing so far.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: Was it a free year before the A & M win,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: or just now is it a free year after.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: The A & M? I think it was a free
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: year before.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: It was a free year before. Define free like, I mean,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: it had been, because the expectations were not modest. I mean,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: I guess it depends on the site or the rider
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: you look at. But I saw anywhere between four and
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: eight wins predicted by certain people. And, I mean, listen,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: with this schedule, you don't have to be a genius
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: to realize that. that even four wins could be a
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: stretch because obviously he's only South Alabama and Youngstown seem
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: like gimme's. You have the third one in A &
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: M now, but I mean, I don't, I mean, if
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: he doesn't, if he only wins three games this year,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: is that pass still free?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Yes. My answer, the short answer is, is, is yes. My,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: my long answer is I'd be lying. If I said
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: after watching the second half at Alabama, that, Some of
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: those usual and customary concerns didn't start rising up in
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: my mind. I mean, think about the things that went
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: terribly wrong during that second half. A quarterback, I don't
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: think Kenny Minchey made one single good throw during maybe
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: the entire Alabama game. The O-line, which Kentucky evidently paid
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: a bunch of money for, looked rather pedestrian. None of
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: the receivers could get open at all, right? You were thinking,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: does Kentucky even have a receiver room at all? Nick Anderson, hey,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: this guy was supposed to be good. I don't think
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: he caught a single ball. And then the special teams, right?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Kentucky had trouble getting off 30-yard punts during the Alabama game.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Then Look what happened. Within the span of a week,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: those four areas, which were super, super concerns in my mind,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden had wonderful games. They looked like strengths.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: The O-lines. They were fantastic. Minchie, okay, maybe he is
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: the quarterback that we were looking for. Receivers, whoa, look,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: these guys can actually get open. You see green grass
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: in between there. Kicking game, kicker hits a 52-yard field goal. Yeah, okay,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: he doinked it, but still, 52 is 52. Stein had
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: confidence in him, and the way that he was able
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: to turn around Stein, he's old school thinking, but with
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: a new school mentality. He still believes in practice. You
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: play like you're going to practice. He still believes in
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: one play at a time. Those two things, if he
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: truly believes in them and if he can impart them
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: into his team's mentality, that to me is excitement. It
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter how many games you win this year. You're
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: setting things up for a really, really good run later
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: on down the line.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear that excitement in your voice. You want
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: to go through like I am a deal man. You
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: want to be like, hey, listen, I know to pull
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: back the brakes a little bit. But deep down inside,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: that's the beauty of sports and being a fan. You
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: want to be swept away in it. I don't know
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: how much you love Rudy as much as I do,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: but Pete said it best, you know, Dreams are what
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: make life tolerable, you know. And then he lights his,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: you know, cupcake on fire before he gets, you know,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: on fire. So, yeah, that's kind of what's– you have
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: to have dreams. You got to be over the top.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: And if not, then what's the point of watching sports, right?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: I mean– and by the way, no, I'm not a
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Colts fan. I just really think the RSAs are a
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: bunch of blunders. Going all the way from the one
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: who took him from Baltimore to Jim who fell ass
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: backwards into Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck and still screwed
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: that up. to whatever the daughter or sister, I don't
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: know who runs them now. I don't even know. All
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: I know is she's got the name Irsay, and that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: needs to be changed.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, though. The longer that you're a sports fan,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: the more of these indelible memories are hard to shake.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: It's hard reversing culture that you've built up inside yourself
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: for the past half a century, right? All these memories,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: all these negatives tend to stick, and we're almost like
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: coaches in a way. The bad things kind of are
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: the things that stick out in us. Okay, look, you've
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: already distracted me now with all this wonderful conversation. I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: am late for our first break. I understand we need
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: to go ahead. Yeah, we need to take one. They
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: tell me 20, 40, and then the hard break at
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: the top of the hour.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: They say breaks are to get us paid, but I've
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: never seen a check, so I didn't know.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: That makes two of us right now. So yeah, I
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: long for those days of orthodontics, right? All right. Well,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: we'll be right back. Just the cats here.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: One of the best in Clarksville. Welcome back. We've got
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: a couple more hours of just the facts. I'm Dr.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Tom Fong, subbing this morning.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: I'm here with.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Trevor Kelsey, no relation to Pat here in my co-pilot seat. Trevor,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: you and I were talking.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: If he is, he won't admit it. I've tried. I
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: keep trying to send me at least a check. Like,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: I'm your kid, Pat, I swear. He won't bite, huh?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Won't bite. Yeah, I don't see too much of a resemblance.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: No, but if you do want to go for resemblance,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: until he shows me a paternity suit negative, I am
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: not going to deny that Andy Reid is not my dad.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Check the DNA. You never know, right?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: My mom was a hippie, so she can't confirm some
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: multiple gaps in her life where she was during those days.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: And because of that and Andy Reid. you know, Andy
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Reid's a Mormon. He's got like 30 kids anyway. Who
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: knows how many times he's got around there that aren't
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: just his. So, yeah, I think I'm Andy Reid's son.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Always looking for that angle. We were talking out there
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: about Super Bowls. And you mentioned, with you being an
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Eagles fan, you had the pleasure and honor of attending
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: their Super Bowl win. I, as a Bengals fan, believe
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: it or not, was able to go to the Super
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Bowl three or four years ago out in L.A. when
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: they played the Rams. And, get this, as a media member,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: I've been covering them through those Marvin Lewis years for
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: all that time. And all of a sudden, Joe Burrow
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: comes on board. Jamar Chase, they end up taking that
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: franchise all the way to Super Bowl. And here I am.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: But would you say.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: That was a BS call on Cooper Cup. I guess
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Logan Wilson got the penalty call, but Cooper Cup was
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: the reception.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was... I was in the media section. Actually,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: it was the overflow media section. It still counts, right?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: It still counts. I was in the building because wouldn't
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: you say that that's probably the pinnacle of almost every
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: media member? You got to be able to attend the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl and be able to cover that officially.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: Unlike you, I didn't get media credentials. I bought my ticket,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: which ironically did cost more than the car I drove
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: there in. and I said, I think I was like
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: maybe four rows up from the wall in Minneapolis. By
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: the time I got up to my seat as a
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: big guy, I was pretty much like, I'm not leaving
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: this seat ever.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: That's okay, though, in the house.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: I was one of the last, I think these, and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: after the victory, I was, I mean, we talked about
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: this yesterday on Rutherford's show, we were kind of laughing,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: like the last time sports made you actually cry, and
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: we were discussing it in a bad way, like losses,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: but in a good way, too, like I can't, I mean,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know if there's like new prisoners who've hugged
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: as many strange men as I did that night. I
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: was just, I mean, just, it would have been, it
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: would have been a lot less awkward if I had
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: known some names, but I mean, that's how it was.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, I, I, I actually ended up, I wouldn't
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: say I might've made a friend, but, uh, the guy
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: sitting next to me who I had never met and,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: I haven't talked to him in a while now, but
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: we actually kept in touch. He was from Philly, just
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: kind of on a whim, went to the game, bought
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: a ticket late. Ended up actually sending me a local
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: newspaper the next day from their win. Kept in touch
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: a little bit with him, but that's been almost 10
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: years now, so I haven't talked to Rob in a while.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: But that's okay. I'm sure he's doing well still.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: It is amazing how fandom works, how so many people
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: end up just being random fans of teams that geographically
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: have nothing to do with, with where they live.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I'm that way. I'm a blue Jay fan
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: and Eagles fan. And well, Pacers just because of Reggie Miller.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: But before that, before I, I went to a Pacer
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: game in the early nineties and was, was hooked because
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: of the, the crowd that market square brought to the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: table with me. Uh, I was a Sonics fan. I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: was a big camp, Gary Payton and guys like that. But, yeah,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: to prove your point, I was kind of all over
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: the map. Now, you are a Bengals fan geographically, I assume. But, like,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: are you a baseball? Is there a basketball team other
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: than UK, obviously?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: No, it's basically Reds and Bengals in terms of sports.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: I'm following the Rams because everybody loves a winner, and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: I thought they would be the best thing since sliced bread. Actually,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: I loved them during the greatest show on turf, even
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: when they were at St. Louis, even beforehand when they
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: came out from Anaheim. It's weird.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: They were in St. Louis for 20 years. And the
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: entire time, I would always still goof up and call
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: them the L.A. Rams.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, too.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: And now they're back in L.A. And it's like, okay.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: I'm amazed I haven't. It's also weird that it was
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: 20 years they were there. You know, we kept being like, oh,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: it's the L.A. Rams to me. But that was, I mean,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: you're talking about a generation of people who had no
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: idea they were L.A.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: The thing is, nobody even cares about them right now.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: But I think if they can get on a little
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: bit of a winning streak, and it was so disappointing
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: when they lost to San Francisco over in Australia, they
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: just basically did not show up. But, yes, I remember
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: the Rams of the fearsome foursome when they had the
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Jack Youngbloods, the Merlin Olsons, those guys. Yeah, Jack Snow
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: as receiver, even when they had Joe. Joe Willie was
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: out there. Name it for a year, a couple years.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: I only go to Jim Everett, Flipper Anderson, and Henry Ellard, maybe.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: That's about my Cleveland Gary. Those are about my early years.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: Lawrence McCutcheon. Not a Rams fan, but just knowing the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: Rams as well, yeah.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: No, I'm looking still for big things from them. College-wise,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: who do you follow?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: I'm a UofL guy. I mean, I went to Western
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: for a cup of coffee long enough to do one
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: semester and two girls I shouldn't have done, so I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: came back there and got right into the workforce, so
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: I do like Western a little bit, and But it's
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: all UofL. Now, I have been– I don't– I've said
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: this before. I've been very honest about it. I do
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: hate everything Kentucky basketball. Like, you lose 29, 30, 40 games,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: I will– it gives me wood. But now, football, I
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: never really, as I said, I grew up kind of
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: going to a lot of games. And I don't know.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: Even as you've improved, and yes, you've beaten Louisville every
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: now and then on a blue moon, I still– you're
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: still kind of like, I don't know that little brother
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: is the steal a phrase. Maybe I got, I don't
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: take you. So like, like people like, I hate Kentucky football.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: They knew he was like, I don't care. I mean,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be Louisville, but I don't know.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: I guess, like I said, when you spend your time
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: life growing up, watching the patheticness that was Bill Curry and, and, uh,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: and even, you know, Joker Phillips to a lesser degree.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: And in some cases, uh, It's hard to hate, right?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, oh, I don't want Steve Carell
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: to get laid in a 40-year-old virgin. Screw that. He
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: needs to be 60 and not seen Pootang. I mean,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know. That's just mean, right?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: In a way, I can understand. But on the other hand,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: being a UofL fan, I also understand that there's still
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: that little brother complex. coming out in you. You can't
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: hate your big brother, no matter how bad they are. No,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: it extends all sports. Speaking of which, before people start
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: adding me, I am nothing against Steven Peake. I love
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: Steven Peake. In fact, Steven Peake has a 60-year-old mind
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: inside that 30-year-old body. His passion for Kentucky basketball is unparalleled.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for if Kentucky basketball poofs the bed
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: this year, to hear the conversations between you and him
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: So you're saying I shouldn't have texted him and said
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: the host, the fill-in host for Michael, John, said that
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: you need to shut the bleep up and not talk
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: as much? Was I premature with sending that text?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Probably a little bit. Or now that I know that
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: you sent it, I'm trying to kind of double down
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: I would double down. Don't back away. Tell Steve this.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: He'll seem to keep his shirt on in the crowd
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: and the book out of his nose.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: We know his passion. We understand his passion. He just
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: needs to be a little bit less verbose in being
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: able to lord it over everybody else, like Trevor, who
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: doesn't really understand from that standpoint.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: Plus, I'm not going to be nice to Steve. He's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: going out to Salceritas today, where John Spears will be
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: with Scoots is why he had to leave a little
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: early today. They'll be at Salceritas from 10 to 11
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: now in Hurstburn Lane. And then KRC will be out
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: there from 12 to 2. So I can't be nice.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: They're all getting to eat Salseritas. Now, while I do
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: get to hang out with you for an hour, not
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: that that isn't awesome, it's no offense, not as awesome
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: as those chips they got at Salseritas.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: It's a consolation prize.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: I'm a fat guy. You know I'm picking food over people.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Come on. Speaking of text, the Game Day Men's text line, 414-1450,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: I didn't know if you had access to this or not.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: I do not. Okay. I do not. So I'm counting
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: on you to read all of these to me or
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: to use your discretion and reading the ones that you
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: think are appropriate.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: You're asking me to read. I obviously don't know my
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: public education background, but let's go here. Did you, you
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: went to high school here locally, I assume, right? Or
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: you said you moved here.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: I went to Lexington in Lexington. I was a Tate's
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Creek class of 76 graduate.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: My uncle was Tate's Creek. I think that's the same class.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: Do you know Bill Baston?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: I know the name. I actually graduated a year early,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: so technically I was in the year behind them. I
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: was one of these guys.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: He wasn't graduating a year early.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: But I'm sure we crossed paths.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: He might have been lucky to graduate at all.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: No, our official 76 class just had our official reunion
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: this past August.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: 50-year reunion. I can't remember the exact year.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: That went well.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: I know he went to Tate's Creek. Maybe he did
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: go to Henry Clay. I always get those two mixed up.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: But I know he's around that time because I know
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: he was at UK when Mel Turpin was there. He
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: used to tell me the stories growing up about how
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: they used to tease freshmen in his fraternity that if
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: you get too close to Mel during lunchtime, you could disappear. Yeah.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: But that text line, excuse me, I digress, making fun
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: of fat jokes at Mel Turpin's expense.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: R.I.P.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: Uh, Texter says, Michael, we're going to UK Saturday for
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: my nephew's family weekend. Well, shouldn't you be watching? Oh,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: it's South Alabama. You can miss the game. Uh, any
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: places you recommend for daycare? Well, Michael's not here. Uh,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: not really looking for a steak or bougie restaurant. Mr.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: Fancy pants. I'm gonna leave this one to you because
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: my expertise was going to the parkette after UK game
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: and getting a poor boy sandwich and the parkette closed.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: I heard about 10 years ago. So, uh, I don't
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: know where to send them. Do you have any suggestions?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: If you're looking for kind of upscale, high class, it's
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: always Jeff Ruby's. It's Tony's downtown. It's all those, but
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: you're not going to be able to get in. I'm
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: sure reservation-wise, they're all full on a football Saturday. So, yeah, yeah,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: I would think something like Chick-fil-A or maybe– You know,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: a little Ramsey's diner might be along your lines. Plus,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: you're there for football, right? You can get food at
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: the concession stands now for supposedly very reduced prices and
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: fees right now.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: Plus, we're talking nephew. For nephew, you can just go
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: through drive-thru. It's not like a drill.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no big deal.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: Make your brother or sister pay for it. It's her kid.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: Text her up. It says, I don't know this text,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: but his name is in here, so I'll go identify him.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: 48 Handley. Don't get the reference, but that's okay. Says,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: I'm 100% behind the owner of the Colts being on
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: the sideline. The more the owners know about each facet
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: of the game enhances her ability to decide who to
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: hire or who needs to be replaced. That's not performing well.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: It's not as if she's interrupting them during the course
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: of the game. It all points to wanting to put
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: a good product on the field. Well, if she wanted
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: a good product on the field, they wouldn't have started
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. Okay, that's right there. I mean, I get
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: where the texture is. I agree with the texture. Yeah,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: that works if the owner knows what they're talking about.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: As someone who is a fan of the Bengals and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: Mike Brown, who I don't know if you've ever had
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: to chant at a Bengals game if his name is Brown,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: flush it down. or if you like my other buddies
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: of diehard Bengals fan has ever pointed out that Mike
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: Brown looks a lot like the mailman. It's not owners
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: just because owners are hand on, don't mean they know
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: what they're doing. Right.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: There's also the financial aspect that's involved in, in all
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: of this. And sometimes with the Bengals, especially more so
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: with the reds, a lot of times I think that
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: those owners are just happy to be there, that they
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: were going to just go ahead and get their paycheck and,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Competition really means nothing to them. This window of opportunity
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: for Cincinnati is really shrinking right now. If they don't
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: get it done this year, if Joe Burrow goes down,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: or for whatever reason, he ends up not playing almost
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: all the remaining ballgames, then I think this is over.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: It's back. We're going to be pining for the days
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: of Marvin Lewis again when just getting into the playoffs
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: was probably good enough. That's the reality. Hey, I think
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: we're due for our final break. That was my challenge
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: this time, to hit these breaks. Okay, I missed it
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: by a few minutes here and there, but hey, I
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: got them in. Pay the bills. We'll see you on
• 1:21:57
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• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. This is Dr. John Huang filling in for
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: Michael Bennett. This is Friday and we want to make
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: sure we finish this off and head into the weekend
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: on a very positive note. So I'm flying the plane.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: It's still flying, but I've got Trevor beside me and
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: this has been fun so far. I don't know why
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: I sound so surprised, but I came into this with
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: a little bit of trepidation. You have made it very,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: very easy for me. Plus the listeners have also come through.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: They've been texting in. I understand we've got a couple
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: more texts that you can read to me, and we
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: can see if we can answer. Knock these things out.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: We can, and you had every reason to be scared.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: I'm going to use the lesser fancy word, the scared version. Yeah,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: I would be worried, too, if I looked at my profile.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I've got to do this with that dude? Oh, Lord.
• 1:23:20
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• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've read any of these or not.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: It says, my mom, she was the doctor, actually oversaw
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: the older Ursae when he was in the hospital. Now,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: when he says older, I don't know if he meant Jim.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: What was Jim's dad's name? I forget. Was it like
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Bob or D-Bag or something like that? I can't remember.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: The one that stole the Colts out of Baltimore while
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: his kid was popping pills and being a nepotism baby.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: You would think I'm a Colts fan, wouldn't you?
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: I would think there's some deep-seated either insecurities or just
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: clouds hanging over your head that you've been unable to
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: shake over the course of the years.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know why the Earthsays bug me. I don't
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: have nothing against the Colts. They hurt you in a way.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: I don't root against them. I hate the Cowboys.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: We have something in common now, for sure.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: I despise them. One of my first games I ever
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: went to in Philly was It was actually, sadly, Mark Sanchez,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: I think, was our starting quarterback that week.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: Was there a butt fumble, right?
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Pretty much described our season, too. And
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: I just remember we lost the game to Miami. Primarily,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: I remember because I went with my buddy, John Renshaw,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: who ended up stealing beers and running away, and it
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: took me three hours to find him afterwards. But there's
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: a bar called Infinity, I believe it is, right next
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: to the Eagles where they play their home games. It's
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: a sports complex similar to Kansas City, if you've ever
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: been there. where, like, every stadium is, like, all within, like,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: the parking lot of each other. And so I go
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: in there, and this place is packed. And I'm kind
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: of pissed because we just lost to the Dolphins, but
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: it's been a bad year. And I just remember I
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: get the guy on, the DJ or whatever. He's like, yeah,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: it sucked today, but all in all, it's not a
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: bad day because Dallas got beat. And then just the
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: whole place just goes for, like, for 10 minutes, Dallas sucks, Chance.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that's, you know, they probably are
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: my most hated team in all sports, being the Cowboys,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: other than maybe Kentucky basketball. But, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't hate the Colts. I don't. I just– Ursae
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: annoys me.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Colts, they're pretty vanilla. I can't think of
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: anybody who has the Colts circled on their calendar and
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: targeted as the team to beat. They're just– Kind of
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: their filler material.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who's their biggest rival? I mean, I
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: guess the Patriots are a rival, but do the Patriots
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: even really care? I mean, they haven't been playing the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: same division in, what, almost 10 years or something.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody cares. It sounds like you've been around a
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: few of these stadiums. Which has been your favorite? What's
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  Speaker 2: been your favorite environment-wise?
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  Speaker 3: Football-wise, I mean, I saw the Eagles play probably four
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  Speaker 3: or five times in different cities before I got to
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  Speaker 3: see them in Philly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Minnesota's was awesome with the Super Bowl, but
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  Speaker 3: that also has an atmosphere involved.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I was at the first ever game at Paul Brown
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  Speaker 3: Stadium against the Browns. Ron Dugan scored the first touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: And then I got really hammered and don't remember the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the game. So, but the– I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a good question. There are so many–
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  Speaker 3: I would have to think the one that made me
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  Speaker 3: walk the least, but– I don't know. I mean, do
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  Speaker 3: you have one in your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably a couple stand out in terms of atmosphere.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, AT & T Stadium with the Cowboys. I
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  Speaker 2: hate to say it, but they put on a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good show.
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  Speaker 3: Never got to go there.
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  Speaker 2: You would love this, though. From the media buffet standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: they had it all. Lobster mac and cheese. They had
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  Speaker 2: the candy bars out there for you to take and grab.
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  Speaker 2: It was fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: That's one thing we're lovable for. texas hospitality that's one
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  Speaker 3: thing louisville has always dominated kentucky and is the.
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  Speaker 2: Media yeah i i i succumb to that there was
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  Speaker 2: always look forward to the louisville.
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  Speaker 3: Media yes kentucky gives you like a voucher to go
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  Speaker 3: buy your own food louisville has a buffet and it's
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  Speaker 3: usually football or basketball it's usually really good so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's that's worth the price of admission alone of
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: coming into the media area the other place was kansas
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: city you know those chiefs fans They know how to
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: tailgate and it's set up. I think they're building a
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  Speaker 2: new stadium. I hope they keep a lot of the
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: same areas the same because that tailgating was immense. You
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: get on top of the stadium and you look out.
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  Speaker 2: That is 360 degrees of parking lot just going as
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: far as the eye can see in every direction. So
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  Speaker 2: from the standpoint of environment and being able to tailgate
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  Speaker 2: and party, fantastic. I haven't been up to Buffalo. I
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: understand Bill's Mafia also will give you a run for
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: your money from that standpoint.
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  Speaker 3: I've been to Buffalo, never a Bill's game. I've been
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: to the Chiefs. I love them. you can appreciate showing
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: the age. We can start naming stadiums we've been to
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: that no longer exist, which I've been to the Kingdome.
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  Speaker 3: I've been to the Silverdome. I got to go to
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: both those. I guess Alamo Dome still is around, isn't it?
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  Speaker 3: They just don't use it, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are pretty ancient.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was probably one of my, you bring
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: up favorite events, seeing the Lions in 93. I still
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: just remember the game vividly. Barry didn't do much, but
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: Mel Gray had two kick returns for touchdowns, and Rick
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: Myers sucked. And the Lions won 30 to 10. And
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: I got a Jerry Ball t-shirt, which a lot of
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: people don't remember Jerry Ball, but you might. He was
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: like six foot, 400 pound, deep nose tackle. He's played
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: for the Lions. Who's your favorite? So who's your favorite
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: Bengal then?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I would.
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  Speaker 3: You got to go. I'm assuming you were, I mean,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: you're born in 67. So you were around Ken Anderson.
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  Speaker 2: Here's a true confession. I follow the Bengals because they
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: were kind of close, but it wasn't like I really
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: had the passion for them. you know, if they lost,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: it's not like UK where I'd be depressed for the
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: next three weeks. It was okay. Let's move on to
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: the next game, right? So it was okay. And then
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: when I started covering them, of course, anytime that you
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: do cover a team, you develop a little bit more
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: of an affinity for them and you want them to
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: do well for your own benefit because winning means more
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: readership and more people will follow you and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: But I never really truly had a bangle that I
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: just kind of loved. I never had any posters on
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: the wall of any Cincinnati bangles when I was younger.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: I was a Ram fan. Ram fan. No, no, the
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: icky shuffle I thought was a little bit hokey. No
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: big thing. Yeah, I can do without it.
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  Speaker 3: And the Rams were good. I mean, Super Bowl in 79,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: which had been, but you were 12. It's a prime
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: bandwagon age. They were good. I guess older than 12,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: you graduate at 76, you said. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember the Vince Ferragamo days. And, yeah, Lawrence McCutcheon.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: You know, all those guys.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Some would say he was a one handsome man. One
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: last thing, Justin, says, teams with bad. Let me go
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: back a little bit because I don't know if you
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: got all these. How does Dr. Wong feel about Steve Martin,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: dentist character in Little Shop of Horrors? And did gas
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: really help? Take the edge off. Personally, I'm glad you
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: didn't follow in the footsteps of another former dentist, Doc Holliday,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: and become a gunslinger. Doc Holliday, also the name of
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: a former Marshall coach who was pretty damn good back
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: not too long ago.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: I think dentists, they've gotten a horrible, horrible rap.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: Over the course of years, this guy's older than me.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: Like who, I mean, I don't know. Is there anyone
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: I would love to see a scoochle steer? I would
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: ask him. Like, does he even know what, if I
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: make the reference, they must seem all famous. Like you
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: wouldn't even know what that means. Like anyone under 30
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: knows what that reference is.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: That's probably similar to the marathon man. Right. When I
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: say marathon man, anybody who is over 50 years of
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: age right now, kind of winces and grimaces. They see
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: a drill right through the central incisor of somebody. That
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: is painful, but that's probably also one of the reasons
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: why I went into orthodontics. Okay. Yeah. I'm not going
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: to drill fill and then do root canals and pull
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: wisdom teeth. No, let me go ahead and treat patients
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: who are not going to be hurting. Well, You know,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: they'll get a little bit sore after I tighten up
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: their wires. But by and large, being an orthodontist, people
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: want to come see you. They want beautiful smiles. You're there.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: You're shaking hands. You're kissing babies. You let your assistants
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: do all the work. That's the kind of specialty that
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get into. And I did.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: I have to ask you, I don't know where your
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: pop culture references lay. I'm a giant Seinfeld guy.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: I love Seinfeld.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I have to ask, have you ever had
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: penthouses in your lobby like Dr. Whatley? No. Did you ever,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: air quote, swap assistants with other dentists?
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: I never did that.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: Did a patient ever wake up wondering, was I tucked
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: or untucked? I don't remember.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy, these are fantastic, man. I am super, super impressed.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: You ever take a hit of that gas and go,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: that's the stuff, and then hand it to the guys?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: Listen, anytime Michael wants to come, you know, to heck
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: with Justin. I'll just go ahead and politely ask him
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: to step aside. You know, I've got Trevor now.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Fortunately, me waking up that early is a lot easier
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: said than done. I'm not a morning guy.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: No, you guys are great. Once again, not kissing up
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: to you, but you have made it very, very easy
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: for me during this time. Anytime Michael needs me to sub,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: If the listeners will allow, I'd be more than happy
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: to jump in here. I'll be here on Monday. You know,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: feel free to kind of jump in.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: Come on in. I got an appointment Monday morning. If
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: I get done or leave, maybe I'll swing. We did
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: one other text. It says teens with bad owners.
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  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: We've got like two minutes. I don't think I can
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: read this text. There's a lot of bad owners, Texter.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: Does he give a list? He only gives two, though, examples.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: The A's, I mean, as he says, I mean, they
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: don't even have a city at the moment. They are
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: pretty bad. The A's are bad. I don't even know
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: who owns the A's, to be honest with you. And
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: the Browns, which, yes, Haslam is a pathetic owner. Volume 2.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: Head coach Chris Ballmer changed Tim Couch's– I love how
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: he's just, like, angry at the Browns because of, like,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: 25 years ago. Apparently they ruined Tim Couch's career. If
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: you like someone enough to take the number one, maybe
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't try to screw with them. I don't know.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, Tim Couch could have also maybe stayed off
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: the painkills too. Now, don't go disparaging Tim Couch now.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: I got nothing against Timmy Couch. He was fine. I
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: had no problem.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: Would you actually put him on the Mount Rushmore of
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: all-time UK greats? Not just football. I'm not talking football.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: I'm talking UK sports figures. Would you put Tim Couch
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: up there? Is he top four?
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: I don't use Mount Rushmore term in sports. I don't
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: know why. It's always here to me. But you didn't
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: know that, so it's okay. But no. Of all sports, no. Football,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, probably maybe. I don't even know if
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: I'd do it with football because the evolvement. over the
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: last 26 years with UK football has gotten better. I mean,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: at the time, yes, he was probably the, at the
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: peak of the mountain right there with Dimitri Dawson or
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: George Blanda, maybe, or, you know, in those, those realms.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know if I'd put them there now. No,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think I would.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll, I'll, I'll leave it at this. I want
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: to hit my heart. Stop here.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: It's top of the hour.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: I want everybody to say, who would you put on
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: your Mount Rushmore since Trevor loves that term so much.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: on all-time UK sports.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: Me as a little man, Billy Gillespie's up there.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: Is there a reverse Smout Rushmore? We'll go from that.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening in. This is Dr. John Long subbing
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: for Michael Bennett on Just the Cats. Thank you so much, Trevor.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: We'll see you Monday.