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The Mac & Read Show: Bears Pre-Schedule Release Show! · 2nd City Gridiron

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome into another different of the Mac and Reed show right here on second city grid iron.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't use any grid iron at WC grid iron on social media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got barren balance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got making monsters
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bears overbears after us on a Thursday evening five o'clock central time show they'll be on its 730 PM central time when the schedule release will be officially official.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I of course am Evan Mac at the 11 Mac on social media joined by my co-hosts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's definitely not watching you for it just for Sydney Sweetie
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[SPEAKER_00]: to know my four-year-old daughter knows all of the sizzle lyrics on Luther and he's road-tripping with me to Charlotte to see the bears open up the season against the Luther's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's at Ross Reed on social media, ladies and gentlemen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Ross Reed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thank you, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the your four-year thing I got thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is a botanization season yeah, and a botanization of a season and there's ended with like an hour and a half episode or something like that yeah, just they can end it with uh, they can end it with a bottle of Jack Daniels and a shotgun for me because this has been brutal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's too bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The show of the generation, how about it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't be watching, but you can fill me in post show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We besides that today on the show, we will be talking about, by the way, buddy, it's a good thing my wife doesn't listen to this podcast, because we've traveled together, I think, more times than me and her at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get into that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll talk about the release schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty much leaked at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be official again when bears over
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fair channel in a little bit, but we will dive into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do some predictions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you follow Ross on Twitter, that's some good questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could chime in on the chat if you're watching live with us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we would like you to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Accurcant Commission.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Ross wants to know what home game would you most want to go to?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What road game would your most want to go to?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you pro or anti Thanksgiving slash Christmas Games?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is the bears have both because they're a hot ticket.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the arts?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stretch for the bears, throw our anti-prime time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good mix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So predictions and more on the way, as it's, again, has pretty much leaked and set as far as, you know, the time slots Thursday night football and Monday night football.
2:52
[SPEAKER_00]: We were all wrong as far as the bears opening up against the sea hogs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are going to open up at Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Looks like a noon game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, without further ado, let's let's get into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, with that opener in Carolina, you know, it was funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we didn't really talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: our draft recap now it's finally complete as far as the implications from that DJ more trade and getting all the picks that led to Caleb Williams and so many other key players on this bear's roster now obviously the Panthers are they're trending up they made the playoffs last year they are
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[SPEAKER_00]: to be looked past for sure.
3:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that, you know, let's say, a franchise that has seen some great success, you know, you looked at the Camdut New Year's, even you think like Jake Deloman of Panthers Jersey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, as far as recent history, like a pretty good backfield, a defense that has been pretty staunch, I feel like.
3:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, what they've been able to do, like to get to the playoffs
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, for the, for the NFC South, it's like who really wants to that bad when you're eight and nine, but turn off, you know, they were able to get there with Bryce Young as the starters.
4:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So the jury's still kind of out on Bryce Young if he's going to make it as a pro quarterback, at least in my eyes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, they got a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball with Chuba Hubbard and, and, and, and, and, and, Mike McMillan, who is a front runner
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[SPEAKER_00]: is weird South Carolina accent, but that's all to say, you know, going out on the limb here with the streak for folks that do not know Ross and I go see in a way game every year or winless.
4:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You're a zero and like five at something at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get for that first win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a very good chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a blank state of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's talking about, and this will be a theme throughout as well, the regression and ranking the NFC North quarterbacks leading up to the schedule release and the preseason and camp and all this and Caleb Williams being behind the likes of Jared Goff and being behind even Jordan love and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: be kind of a primary so like however you rank in them whatever that's fine it's only going to fuel my quarterback the iceman and Caleb Williams down DJ Moore so not another revenge game for him this time around but you better believe that Ben Johnson is going to come out swing and try to start off on the right foot because after this we'll talk about a potential three game home stretch but I've talked a lot Ross what do you think what are you looking forward to in this
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, listen, that's a very scallop defense that you're going to play against in Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they remember, they just signed Devo Lloyd in the off season from the Jaguar as they brought in Jalen Phillips, who was from Philadelphia and before that, he came from Miami and that pairs with, you know, outstanding corner juicy corn, they've got Bobby Brown and Trishard Warden on the front with Derek Brown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So their defense is pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you got to keep in mind too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also when we go out there, it's going to be very warm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a mid September game in Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I expect the B in the 70s, maybe even the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's also a little bit of a hurricane season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we'll see if we get a little bit of a weather from there too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's the kind of game where, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a good start for the bears, I think it's a good spot for them to go on the road and face a team that they theoretically on paper are better than, I think it's a good game for Kiel Williams to grow out there and kind of show his razzledazo, you know, for the rest of his career and for Bryce's young career.
6:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Bryce Young's career is giving, they're going to be attached to that trait and you're going to hear about that trait many times when you watch on the broadcast on TV and things like that.
7:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big year for Bryce Young because it is a make or break season for him in terms of his future in Carolina.
7:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I think people with watch show know I'm pretty out on him.
7:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a pretty pedestrian quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's a starter on a viable playoff team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, we'll see what they can do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, talk about the the back, some in Shibu Harbor and in Jonathan Brooks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be a spot where the difference for the bearers can at least...
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[SPEAKER_01]: show that they're better than what people think they are going to be because, you know, you don't want to let Bryce Young beat you even though they are at home, even though it is a home opener for you, for them though, you still want to be able to grab their in kind of shut him down, so to speak, and really let your offense kind of lead the way and put some points on the board and get a win on the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's the most important thing is
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can get a win on the road in the NFC.
8:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we'll still get at the back half of the season, especially the last four games of the season.
8:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to win a wish that you got these wins early on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I should try and navigate to trying to get to the magic number of.
8:12
[SPEAKER_01]: 11-ish wins is where I think the bears are going to land at, right?
8:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say right now they're over on us about, you know, I think it's nine and a half on Van Dull.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I always put it's about 10 and a half right now, it hopes that they can get to a level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to me this is a game that you definitely want to come away with, knowing that, you know, it's going to get a lot harder as a weather turns and you've got a pretty interesting last four games a season might've been, which are the hardest part of the season for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, uh, we already knew before this release or, or leaked release at this point that bears at one of the toughest schedules, you know, playing the Patriots, playing Green Bay twice, playing a Philadelphia at home, uh, the Buccaneers hosting at home, uh, Detroit, of course, on Thanksgiving, into Detroit, um, that second half, like you talked about, that's, uh, a tough last final games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going into it kind of teetering on a playoff spot, you've got bills, packers, lines, Minnesota, potentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This again isn't potentially final, but it is a relatively late.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm very curious to see, you know, on the note of Bryce Young, how this Dennis Allen defense kind of retooled can come out and pressure Bryce Young and get off on the right foot as well.
9:26
[SPEAKER_00]: If we're going to see, you know, emulating the same,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great traits that they had last year as far as taking the ball away, have they taken a step forward, have they just stayed pat as far as their ability to or take a step back for that matter with the pass rush, you know, we're going to see Dylan thing them in back there and we're going to see copy Bryant for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you feel like for a warm-up session for like a rookie and a guy in a new scheme that this is a great opportunity for a Bryce Young who's not really a proven quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not, again, the likes with the guys who you will be seeing who are studs with the jail and hurts of the world and Jordan Loeb later in the year and even Drake may later towards midseason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will give predictions at the end, but moving on in the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The home opener in Minnesota is a dream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, if it was like Lyons, I think it was week two into Troy last year when they got blown out by like 40.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was brutal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believed, I believe they did, they opened on a Monday night against Minnesota last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the JJ McCarthy comeback win game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So to get the taste out of your mouth would be a great.
10:40
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think, you know, obviously with Minnesota right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, talking about the sort of ranking of quarterbacks that we're seeing right now and Minnesota said a busy off season Kyla Murray and JJ McCarthy, you know, it's the.
10:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's basically the injury status of JJ McCarthy is you're going to be able to hold up as that job even his when you'd go ahead and sign Calamari who's like now maybe, you know, two a or third, depending on how you look at it in the NFC North rankings of quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, whoever it is coming into soldier field, you figure again, leaning on Dennis Allen to to scheme up against Minnesota, they weren't terribly impressive last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, you know, Kyla Murray has had weapons before, but not the likes of you feel like Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, TJ Hawkinson, that's always been a trio that's pretty fierce.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Aaron Jones, you're older.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at defense though has retooled and can get after Caleb Williams, so he might be scrambling quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we know that the bears played very well at Soldier Field last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll have to look up their record, but certainly it'll be rockin' and I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that surprise element is gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to defend your home turf.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It will be very nice, like we talked about Ross and it turf field, like Minnesota's necessarily used to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely looking forward to that match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been in Calamare in a purple uniform will be bizarre.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be bizarre.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going back to back weeks of two quarterbacks who are theoretically under six feet tall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be an interesting class.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it has been be interesting tests for the difference in terms of 75 feet.
12:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Keeping those guys in the pocket and making them throw from the pocket, right?
12:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And so Dennis Allen, I like the fact that you have those matchups that start to season, because it's going to be a little bit similar in our commentary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously he has a little bit more mobility to him, but he has a brand that most of the last couple of years has the injuries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: have piled up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like the matchup for the defense to start the season.
12:44
[SPEAKER_01]: What I also like about this matchup and the Carolina matchup, you got two normal start games, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a new game, at home, it's September, and that feels like a much better fit for me as the bears are going to try and use their way into the season, because after this we've got a Monday night football game,
13:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And a big thing for me is this is going to be the common theme as we go through this schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is Caleb Williams better than dot dot dot right because this is the year for me where he should be theoretically in MVP candidate and we're hoping that he's going to throw for over 4,000 yards this year and come close to 30 touchdowns in the air and and still keep that in this option number low is he better than Bryce Williams.
13:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Bryce young and Bryce Williams.
13:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he's running the Bryce y'all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you better than Calamuri, I mean, at this point, between, and we're the two careers are absolutely.
13:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I mean, that's going to be a comet theme for me as we go to the rest of the schedule, is Caleb Williams better than dot dot dot dot, because I think for us, much as we want to say the deepest, deepest, deepest play brother.
13:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And roommate Roman Dunes, they need to pick it up.
13:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And this needs to happen.
13:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That needs to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This year for me is all about the next level of tension.
14:02
[SPEAKER_01]: of Caleb Williams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're going to get to 1112 wins this year and you're going to win multiple playoff games and be a viable support defender, it's going to be because number 18 took a massive step forward in year two of Ben Johnson's offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he looks like the superstar that the NFL thinks he is going to be because also spoiler alert.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're on seven standalone slash prime time games this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't get that kind of window.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the NFL doesn't think Caleb Williams is an star and Ben Johnson is an star, and this is going to be a very good bearish football team.
14:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Big spotlight on then the bears six and two at home last year, and yeah, you hit it on the head as far as Caleb Williams, I want to see what he's like, what his progression is like in this third year, he's already been in the lab.
14:50
[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen the clips on Instagram and everywhere else working with, you know, clean frame and and and and roam and Luther burden.
14:57
[SPEAKER_00]: getting after it and coast in lovelin what kind of step up as he gonna take what step up as Luther gonna take those guys are very you know it's a ton of pressure on that obviously Caleb Williams we know the pressure there but you know what nine fourth quarter comebacks in his last season which was
15:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Uber impressive and I'm not trying to put him in a position if I've been Johnson to have to repeat those types of performances but it's a it's a good home opener you know you get yourself familiar with Minnesota you don't see them again until the last week of the season for this league schedule because week three comes around in Philadelphia is in soldier field on a Monday night and you know
15:38
[SPEAKER_00]: we're able to beat Philly pretty soundly last year.
15:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So with that in mind, certainly beatable they were coming off that Super Bowl win.
15:45
[SPEAKER_00]: They've had a off season kind of surrounded by, you know, the age of brown rumors or is he going to stay or is he on the trading block at someone team going to take him as it now still Eagle last time I check and, you know, jail and hurts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's another one of those guys who's kind of perplexing which jail and hurts you're going to get you're going to get him to ball out and throw three touchdowns or is he just going to be touched bush jail and then throw for 150 yards on nine passes.
16:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know and you know the touch push is very hard to stop obviously that run game is fierce, you know the kind of coach that Nick Seriani is and he certainly has a great defense still that can cause problems for Caleb but you know based on all that you know you'll have that preparation one game at home ready to welcome in Seriani and the Eagles that's a that's a very fun Monday night matchup that's all
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an awesome matchup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great for television.
16:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Philadelphia Eagles team that is a little bit in influx right now, you know, a little bit of disarray.
16:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I fully expect AJ Brown to be traded once June starts and they get that June first, you know, cap space situation out the way is probably going to be on the Patriots.
16:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Mike Breaver on Diana Rousini for probably do that six months ago together.
17:04
[SPEAKER_01]: They, they, they draft the McKay lemon to take his place.
17:07
[SPEAKER_01]: They signed Hollywood Brown.
17:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So that offense, they, they want to get a little bit more explosive and speed a little bit more vertical.
17:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, you still have, say, chronobarkly, as you're,
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[SPEAKER_01]: as you're, you know, VelCal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be interesting to see how they start to seize it all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So remember, Sean Manion is the new offensive coordinator there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Nick Seriani is on the hot seed.
17:32
[SPEAKER_01]: People know me, I'm not a huge Seriani fan.
17:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And so this would be a good game where the virus, if they can smack them in the mouth, on Monday night football, and really kind of put the Eagles fans and the Eagles,
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[SPEAKER_01]: team and a little bit of disarray, you know, I haven't looked at the Eagle schedule yet, but I'd be selling it on the Eagles this year.
17:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I think their window is closed for the most part.
18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think the roster has gotten older in some parts, the offensive line isn't what it used to be.
18:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's Caleb Williams, better than that.
18:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Williams right now has gone into the jail hurts and I'm going to take Caleb Williams on a Monday football matchup at home against Jalen and Hertz, you know, and that's where I think that the various defense again, having now this is, you know, we three, having three pretty pedestrian quarterbacks and starts a season for that defense, I think is a huge win and then we're going to start one week forward and you get to even better after that.
18:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, with Philly, I mean, it was a minor miracle that the bears were able to hold Sake on Barclay, and you could blame Ciriana to that end, too, to 56 yards on 13 carries, you know, when it was Black Friday game last year, which was an epic performance from the bears, as far as, you know,
18:53
[SPEAKER_00]: four and 25 total yards.
18:55
[SPEAKER_00]: They did outstanding.
18:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They were able to take the ball away very handily from Nick Serriani's Eagles.
19:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think, you know, the age you pointed out is a big factor and to why the bears can win this game with Del Scott or Lane Johnson.
19:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of the age and even sick one, Barclay, you're older as much of a freak as he is.
19:13
[SPEAKER_00]: They were able to bottle him up.
19:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And then losing agey brown, whether he is kind of,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a cancer, the locker room, or to produce a distraction, if you will, will a Kylemon step up as the Vante Smith ready to be a number one.
19:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see it the way he performed as a number two last year, and again, Hollywood Brown not put him in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The defense, some age back there as well.
19:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, it sets them up for a good matchup on Monday night football and then, yeah, like you said, week four should be on everybody's board as a W because it's the lowly jets, you know, what can you say about the jets that hasn't been said before.
19:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious and I'll have to look it up while you're talking Ross is the last time when there's hosted the jets in a game like this week for it's older field, but there.
20:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, had a terrible foreign or three and 14 record last year.
20:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me, you know, Gino Smith.
20:11
[SPEAKER_00]: can only get you so far dirt, well, some months out of there.
20:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So badly, the guys who are, you know, sort of blue chip talents, barely want to be there.
20:18
[SPEAKER_00]: They got quarterbacks who wouldn't even declare for the draft to avoid going to New York to play football.
20:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the lone good players they have are few and far between Olifushano, you know, can't carry the football, and throw the football last night check.
20:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So this feels like, you know, one of those,
20:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Brown's type of games late last season, or should be the most sound victory, a tune-up game, maybe rest, rest charges in the fourth quarter, just beating the tar out of the jets, still warmer day, you know, it's like, probably start a blacktober game at this point for the bears in an easy win.
20:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You never know any given Sunday.
20:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, and you hope it is that way, you know, the judge right now or heading into season.
21:04
[SPEAKER_01]: They are on the march for arch.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: They want to get arch.
21:07
[SPEAKER_01]: They want to be on the driver's seat for arching manning and hopefully finish.
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Near the bottom of the league, which gets them near the top in terms of the draft.
21:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't expect much out of this just seeing this year, maybe two, three wins.
21:21
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Jean-Luc Smith was in a bombination last year for the, for the, for the, the Raiders.
21:26
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw how he played last year against the Bears at home, and through multiple assumptions, and to a Bears win.
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: you just need to hope that the bears aren't looking ahead to the big boy that they see the week after this.
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And so this is where the team has to stay focused, stay locked in, and the coaching staff really has to keep them on track.
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And just like you said, don't play with your food, sit down,
21:51
[SPEAKER_01]: eat them, take them out because you've got a big game next in Green Bay.
21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to make sure that you come out of this healthy, not exhausted, not, not, not, not, not, not.
22:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think a lot about that Giants game last year were at the bear's just kind of loudly gagged a little bit and then they kind of turned it on before the quarter after Jackson Dark got hurt and that's kind of game that you want to avoid when you play the jets as soldier field this year.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, come out of this.
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit of a short week coming off the money that football game, but again, this is a game where you look back and December, you want to make sure that not only did you get this one in the wind column, but it was over
22:32
[SPEAKER_00]: You cover that 13 and a half spread or whatever they're projected to my Vegas at that point last time that the judge played it's all it looks like 2018 so it's been a hot minute eight years since that has happened and then.
22:45
[SPEAKER_00]: looking ahead to week five.
22:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the second NFC North matchup of the schedule.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like a 325 game at Green Bay.
22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a two game road trip for the bears.
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, it's just to be pointed out.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like the perfect by week timing with week 10, which is about four weeks after this game that we're about to go over.
23:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You like that Ross about halfway.
23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.
23:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I thought Green Bay would be sooner as you thought that the bear that the league would want to open the season with Green Bay in week one, but I like a week five match.
23:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like it last year where they were kind of like, you know, both near the end of the season and bunched up together.
23:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I like when the division of games are a little bit more spread out.
23:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, this is the first division of game that they have of the season.
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So the NFL, again, will set it up where
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of upside down Minnesota, but this will be the second matchup of the season.
23:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so the NFL still wants to have it bunched together at the end because they think the teams are vying for a division championship, but I like seeing the green bay early on.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Gordon Lambo field when it's not freezing cold outside and we can get, you know, a little bit more effective offense and I think we can see both teams more at their, um,
23:59
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, at the even strength, the downside of it is, you know, if my comparison starts to season on the populace, this is probably the game that he's going to come off the populace and play, right?
24:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's the that's the downside of it is you're probably going to get my comparisons because they bought him a few weeks.
24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But the flip side of it is,
24:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't expect him to still be 100%.
24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He probably is going to be on a pitch count, so to speak.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a snap count.
24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if you're going to get them, you know, or get them really in season and hopefully get a win.
24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, you get a winning as Packers in Green Bay at this point.
24:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Again,
24:38
[SPEAKER_01]: The bears even last year with success didn't have enough success in my opinion of winning games in the division.
24:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And so these are the ones you look at, you want to say, can we come away with having a winning record in the division this year by maybe being in the packers earlier in the season before they get themselves fully rolling later on?
24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, the lone game in Green Bay last year was one they wanted back.
25:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously that that late running interception by Caleb was the lose 28 21 where they could have tied it.
25:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And seconds remaining still stings and that was coming off that Eagles win that was just so great.
25:18
[SPEAKER_00]: But
25:18
[SPEAKER_00]: the pressure you talk about obviously Caleb Williams in the ascension of him this year and what he's going to do in year three Jordan love your your curious about where he is at with his development as well and my eyes we kind of know what you know again you pointed to Mike Parsons and and that defense you know what you get with them and they
25:38
[SPEAKER_00]: certainly showed out at certain times against this bears team last year, but now you lose Romeo Dobbs who got the bag and went to the Patriots, you're relying on Crystal Watson who was really great in, I believe in that game in particular, and the first game in Lambo.
25:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Jayden Reed, if he's healthy, he's a great gadget type of guy, almost like a DJ more, Matthew Golden, how's he going to play in Tuckercraft as a good weapon to have, and then the protection
26:06
[SPEAKER_00]: you know Jordan love can you actually get pressure again this we're going to see very early on how this Dennis Allen defense is going to be getting pressured are these new tackles and interior linemen going to be able to create pressure is sweat going to be you know it's sort of in this final year where you can sort of unload that at a cap space in the contract.
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the defense, you know, look and ask guys like that taking taking a step forward, it'll be very curious.
26:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And we know that this is that that rivalry game and the pack get to open it up in their turf again this time around.
26:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to see how.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always cinema with Green Bay and Green Bay, you know, if you're looking right away, you're probably predicting it loss with the bears and how there's a just a bad taste for the Green Bay Packers and how they, you know, loss that playoff game.
27:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It lost that crazy, you know, the crazy game at Soldier Field and their other outing at Soldier Field, both games, you know, they're trying to write the ship and, you know, it's going back and forth as far as the all-time records are concerned, but definitely looking forward to that in week five one.
27:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of potential, you know, talking about road trip games that's not too far away in the 325 game that would be, it would be fun.
27:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just about to say from from personal experience,
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are going to Lambo to Green Bay, Bookier in B&B or your hotel, literally right now, right now.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And as a stands right now, it might be a little bit too late to get in there.
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You might have to stay in the beautiful Appleton, Wisconsin.
27:53
[SPEAKER_01]: The good thing is, it won't be terribly cold at that time of the year.
27:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But
27:56
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're venturing out to Lambo Field for the first time, Book your logic right now.
28:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But it is a very fun experience.
28:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to do Green Bay one year in September.
28:09
[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be an October.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a very fun experience to go there when it's not freezing cold outside.
28:15
[SPEAKER_00]: better, better book a bus with your buddies in the city or the north suburbs or wherever you're at.
28:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it's a fun one.
28:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it gets tough.
28:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, continues to be sort of tough.
28:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is another away game we had our eyes on Ross.
28:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you'll be there potentially with the
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And Atlanta in weeks six, and Atlanta again sort of in that, you know, the NFC South is, that's just sort of been always up for grabs here.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Just very curious to see how this Atlanta team performs, you know, B. John Robinson is such a talent.
28:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But the quarterback is a big question.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: You got a couple guys who you just don't know what to expect and two will tangle by low and Michael Panics Jr. Michael Panics, you know,
29:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Showed some flashes last year and you got Drake London, you got John Dodson, now the former bear, Zacchaeus over there hopefully doesn't, I mean, in this game hopefully as a case of the drops.
29:11
[SPEAKER_00]: But Kyle, it's senior head, his moments as well.
29:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pretty good young offensive line to protect whoever quarterback they try out there.
29:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And defense, you know, doesn't really impress me that much, would you look forward to in this matchup against Atlanta?
29:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to seeing who they're gonna put that out there quarterback, right?
29:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, they've got they got two quarterbacks, they got two lefties who like to spend more time in a blue tent than on the football field and micro-penix and and to a talking about Loa.
29:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's gonna be interesting to see who they're putting out there and and also you know the the James peer situation
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: very weird is the NFL.
29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still going to suspend him after, you know, he didn't be in the charges.
29:55
[SPEAKER_01]: No pun intended of what he did allegedly to Rookiea Jackson, who was now on the Chicago sky.
30:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're kind of a weird influx team too, right?
30:06
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got some talent.
30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Drake London on the outside.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a dumb.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a very dynamic receiver, a very physical guy,
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, we can't say enough good things about Bija Robinson, who, if you're playing fantasy football this year, he's probably going to be the first overall pick.
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a good guy that you're going to have to key in and target on in terms of slowing down.
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But they've got some question marks on your offensive line.
30:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they got Joanne Taylor there from Kansas City.
30:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit of an older group, especially on the outside.
30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But the quarterback is the biggest position for me.
30:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Biggest question mark for me.
30:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, again, it goes back to the question, it's Caleb Moons better than that, that, that, that, that.
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And so looking at this and like, yeah, he's better than both those guys are going to put out there.
30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I also can tell you, as I'm going down there with my lovely wife, this is the game that you're probably going to see the most bearous fans on the road at my opinion.
31:03
[SPEAKER_01]: The Atlanta, just the people coming down there, it's like going down to New Orleans with the various other plans New Orleans.
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Atlanta's going to be taken over by Beerus fans.
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to sound like Beerus South in Mercedes-Benz Stadium that day, and I think the Beerus will use that to their advantage.
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the top, that was what of Ross' questions.
31:23
[SPEAKER_00]: They're still time on Twitter.
31:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what home game would you most want to go to and certainly at Lina, Carolina, Seahawks, which I thought they may have opened up the season with, we'll get to that shortly, but also,
31:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they got this wrong.
31:41
[SPEAKER_00]: With the bills in week 15.
31:42
[SPEAKER_00]: No, nice.
31:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to pop London's Denver.
31:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably going to be cold.
31:47
[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: All I had is to say, moving on to the Patriots who they host in week seven.
31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Patriots coming off.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tough, thuss trust game coming up.
31:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is, you know, and again, talking about the, you know, again, Ross's question as far as their, their toughest stretch, it, to me, you know,
32:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be starting at Green Bay, going to Atlanta, hats, and then going to Seattle.
32:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this week, five through eight is very tough.
32:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, could be the separator between, you know, a winning record at that point and a losing record, it could just be a free fall.
32:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's if you give into the or a hype and thought process that the bears would take that back.
32:32
[SPEAKER_00]: But the Patriots, no slouch, we saw that last year, Mike Rebels.
32:38
[SPEAKER_00]: off the field activities inside got a good football team, Drake May, had an awesome season.
32:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just everything that the Patriots did was really impressive outside of the Super Bowl lost C-Hox.
32:50
[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting.
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll go back, bears will go back to back with the Super Bowl attendees and the pets and the C-Hox.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: But we know that this is a good spot for them to be in.
33:01
[SPEAKER_00]: It will
33:07
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not sure, this is where you compare yourselves with the best in the league between them and Seattle.
33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they have a chance to win this football game for sure, just based on Caleb Williams outperforming Drake may potentially at home.
33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: But then this Allen has up his sleeve.
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to throw me a dobs, the new wide receiver for New England.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: They really kind of lacked a true number one, so as a run me a dobs, kind of be that number one, as you can step up.
33:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We know he's had the bears number in the past.
33:41
[SPEAKER_00]: But I like the matchup.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, you know, you want to play against the best to prepare yourself to be in that same spot.
33:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Would you look forward to?
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: This one, I mean, you're looking at Jake May and Caleb Williams.
33:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, this could be theoretically, I'm not putting this on them, but it comes like a Tom Brady Peyton Manning type of situation.
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas like these guys are the next generation of quarterback, the changing of the guys, so to speak.
34:06
[SPEAKER_01]: As most people don't want to think about it, touch them at homes like the old guy right now.
34:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's good around for a long time now.
34:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He's coming off an injury.
34:14
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's, you know, we're his statuses is kind of influx a little bit, although he's one of the five plus quarterbacks in league, but, you know, all the eyes are on these new guys right now.
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: going to be on Netflix's quarterback this year and some of those new crop guys.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm looking for.
34:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to see a fun game happen between those two guys because I think if we get a classic with those two and if you awesome if they met again in Super Bowl some like that, we could see this kind of matchup for years to come where the NFL's like give us more of Drake main Kail Williams please because these are the two young stars that we have.
34:55
[SPEAKER_01]: In addition to, you know, all the onfield stuff, you know, I think the roasters are fun.
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're very similar to each other.
35:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're both, you know, well coach football teams.
35:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, this is going to be one of the better Thursday night football games.
35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think in the past, we've had some pretty shaky Thursday night football games, but Amazon has to be happy that they got a Caleb Williams vs. Drake Mayshill in week 7.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: This says the the makings of like a Sunday night football game right when you get to New England and Chicago with the two same two quarterbacks in the same class and everybody's saying oh and the redrawed Drake may goes over Caleb Williams blah, blah, blah, even Jamie McDaniel.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: this point so that again fuels the ice man Kevin Byrd now he's safety now still playing safety for the Patriots but now with the Patriots as he has some intel on Ben Johnson as you're going to have his number during that you know there will be some churfing he's a competitor that defense it was pretty good outside of that Seattle game last year so yeah definitely curious how they
35:56
[SPEAKER_00]: show out as in the bears in week seven because it really couldn't get any easier in week eight and this you know finally game of that tough four game stretch as they play the seahawks on Monday night football man that the seahawks team is still so impressive Sam Darnell you know they're 14 and three last year
36:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, JSN is just a madman.
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: He just got the back.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a top receiver, for sure.
36:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're looking like just as good as he situation as he has been in.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And that it just goes back to that home field advantage is so crucial for the sea hawks.
36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And even losing Kobe Bryant, they really have some
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: great, they have a great scheme, they have a great young coach, you know, Leonard Williams and Marcus Lawrence are still, you know, a force to be reckoned with and having weather spoon a great lionbacker.
36:51
[SPEAKER_00]: This is this is one of those games, unfortunately I'm the schedule of the ride, I just feel like I don't see the bears traveling that well at that point, especially the end of this four game, stretch and you're just begging for the by-week, you know.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I completely agree with you.
37:05
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a gauntlet of a game.
37:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough spot right in the middle of season.
37:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You're coming off as tough stretch of games.
37:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I think also, you know, a very tough environment to play in.
37:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That stadium is very tough.
37:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, from a fans perspective, this is another one of those probably high on the list for a lot of fans.
37:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, let's go up to Pacific Northwest.
37:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Seattle's a beautiful city.
37:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a cool stadium.
37:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very cool fan of fanbase.
37:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Good to self-inverse cup of coffee out there and really enjoy the clean air that you're going to get that time of year in October.
37:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think this is a tough game right here.
37:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have a hard time seeing the bears come out of this one with the win.
37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, at this point, you're definitely just trying to get to the buy and kind of lick your wounds a little bit and you got more
37:54
[SPEAKER_00]: This is that three game, prime time stretch.
37:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So you hope that the bears can be counted at least one of these games as a win as far as the Patriots.
38:06
[SPEAKER_00]: At least you got two out of three of these games at home with the Patriots on Thursday night, C-Hawks on the night football in Seattle, and then you host the bucks on Sunday night football before the by-week.
38:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we know the competitor, the Baker Mayfield is, you know, buckyurving.
38:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Such a beast.
38:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say obviously losing my ovens.
38:25
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what kind of step back that offense takes because he was just such an awesome security blanket for anybody throwing the football back there, whether it be Tom Brady or Baker Mayfield or whoever, you know, that offensive line kind of getting a little older with Tristan Wurfs.
38:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And the defense, again, some age back there as well.
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you get the bears on Sunday night football, this is
38:49
[SPEAKER_00]: a great matchup with a feisty on quarterback, but you want to get after Baker because he's, you know, a step slower.
38:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, if you're Dennis Allen, you really just try to blitz the hell out of him, really try to have a lot of pressure on him.
39:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's sort of this sort of ground and pound game to just keep Caleb up right and healthy throughout the rest of the, you know, this first half until the by week till he gets a little rest like he said, Ross,
39:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is a game where you get a little bit of warm weather, but this is a game that you want to come away with with a W if you can, especially before the by-week.
39:21
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to be able to stack as many wins as possible against playoff teams in the division.
39:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, it's going to be tough going back to back weeks on the road.
39:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got three straight games of prime time games, but hopefully the bears can muster up a win here, get the by-week.
39:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Because after that, I think the schedule turns to get a little bit better,
39:42
[SPEAKER_01]: before you go into those rough-flast four games in season.
39:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd say, you know, one of your questions is, are you pro or anti these prime time games?
39:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I want my team play in three prime time games like this, but some of these, you know, some of these teams thrive with it.
39:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And you based on last year's performance, that's, you know, a lot of these, you know, that's how the NFL wanted to schedule it.
40:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of these teams do thrive in this sort of stage, you know, Monday night, really knock it all off with Monday night Thursday night and Sunday night football.
40:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Sunday night football, it's older field.
40:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, at any night game, it's older field just feels like a different animal when you're going out there.
40:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, with the bi-week coming in there, obviously that's that tough, a stretch sort of out of the way, you get the bi-week.
40:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you go ahead and you have New Orleans at home, which if you remember last year was a very sound victory.
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice they get to host the Saints post by week.
40:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like another sort of like walk in the part game because the Saints are similar to the Jets and that they don't have a direction in my eyes.
40:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that they're, again, preparing for life sort of,
40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: after Alvin Kamara and now that you've got Travis at TN, that really shows in the door.
40:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, again, talking about who's going to really quarterback for them.
41:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Tyler Shao.
41:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like Chris a lot with a great young talent, but I don't trust.
41:07
[SPEAKER_00]: the quarterback to get the ball to him and then the defense has not done enough in one draft.
41:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like to really scare anybody.
41:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is hopefully an easy post by victory for the bears.
41:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You're rusted.
41:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's New Orleans.
41:21
[SPEAKER_01]: You're a home.
41:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Next win.
41:24
[SPEAKER_00]: because it gets a little spicy and Detroit on Thanksgiving, Detroit, you know, maybe Eminem and Jack White will play again.
41:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I like.
41:36
[SPEAKER_00]: This is, Detroit had the bear's number last year.
41:40
[SPEAKER_00]: They were own two against Detroit.
41:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't matter home or away.
41:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, it didn't have as much to play for in that last game against Detroit, but it still stands when
41:50
[SPEAKER_00]: could have won, but that beat down of like 50 to 14 or whatever it was, still looms largely and Ben Johnson sort of playing little brother to Dan Campbell.
42:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he wants, and it was funny as a meme of, uh, uh, uh,
42:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Ben Johnson seen that he doesn't have to see his family because the bears are playing on on Christmas and Thanksgiving.
42:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that type of emotionless Ben Johnson that will get who wants to play on and on Thanksgiving into Troy.
42:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great slate that we'll talk about at length here, but, you know, again, Jared golf a year older.
42:24
[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's that guy who's like sort of an ageless wonder.
42:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on Ross St. Brown with the like a man or don't like him.
42:30
[SPEAKER_00]: He is.
42:31
[SPEAKER_00]: such a town and then Jamir Gibbs.
42:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you don't have to play against David Montgomery.
42:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Thankfully, sort of that Sonic and Knuckles 1-2 Punch, you know, the replacement as Isaiah Pacheco, who's actually a pretty decent sort of downhill runner to replace him with.
42:46
[SPEAKER_00]: When you look at the Lions roster, James had some great outings against the bears last year.
42:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a stud as we know, and then that offensive line is one of the best units in the NFL
43:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, eight in Hutchinson will be healthy.
43:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, Jack Campbell, Malcolm Rodriguez guys like that is that secondary going to be able to hold up and, you know, which Caleb Williams are we going to get is he going to come out sling and, um, and what will Detroit's defense have to combat the, the scramble in, uh, keep throwing Caleb.
43:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like this game.
43:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I like this matchup.
43:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I like it at Thanksgiving.
43:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I like it at 11 a.m.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it for the bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the lines typically can come out tight in these games because it is such a weird start time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fans are kind of easing into the game a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it from the fans standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of that middle wall on the holiday where you can sneak in 11 a.m.
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[SPEAKER_01]: two o'clock football game and and he's in the after out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the family's really not quite over yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can kind of crack a beer and relax.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I like the lovely clock start on Thanksgiving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get to the Christmas game, which I don't like at all, but this one I actually like for for all parties involved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then week 13 hosting the Jaguars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you look at the home slate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's pretty damn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: peeling, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Jaguars, they were great last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that, you know, they're taking all the right strides.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be at losing Travis at TN is, is a tough load to them, but I think, you know, travel all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, is pretty good room for her back and, you know, prime Thomas Jr. a great young receiver, Brent and Strange was a pretty good young tight end to that end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: continuing to progress as a young unit and you think of that AFC South that it was the Texans and the Colts until absolutely angel Jones got hurt last year, but the Jaguars right up there with Trevor Lawrence and that defense also was surprisingly good with a couple of blue chip talents over there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Travis Hunter now going to exclusively play cornerback, not going to be a gadget, the on Sanders type player again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, I see this as a pretty convincing win for the bears after an outing the Troy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is a tough game to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Jaguars were a pretty good team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they came on strong last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Lee and Cohen got them going on the offensive a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This always rides on what kind of Trevor Lawrence you're going to get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the plus is number one, the bear is going to be on a little bit of more of an extended break because they're coming off of the Thanksgiving game so they got time to lick their rules a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you get the Jaguars at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: probably in some semblance of brother and it's not going to be quite jacksonville weather so for them to have to come up to Chicago and play this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, you get back to another normal start time, a new start time, which I think is fun too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is going to be a fun football game, but it's the game that the bears are going to have to still go out there and stay focused on because I think the Jaguars are pretty good football team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to be a good football team this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it's still very
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[SPEAKER_01]: more than one of the game, the various should be favorite in this football game, and they should come away with the win on this And then in my amyano Ross is running up against the clock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you can chalk that up as a win and move on, but it's the final It's like New Orleans See you Yeah, they're on the tank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're on the charts for the Mars for arts through enjoy the hot weather because you get to play my amy and the jets and New Orleans in the same year those should be
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[SPEAKER_00]: three guaranteed wins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Buffalo on a Saturday as it's one of the first Saturday games on the schedule, NFL schedule, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously following that Green Bay at home on Christmas.
46:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know how season ticket holders feel about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you you hate it, Ross, but it is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would take a Christmas Eve game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: over Christmas day for sure this Christmas day nonsense like let the NBA at Christmas and then Detroit Minnesota Detroit at home at Minnesota is what it looks like right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we flip flop based on the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thoughts on all that in the final stretch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Buffalo games talk.
47:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You just don't know what you're going to get from what was the standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the biggest thing is, you know, you could get, you know, minus 10 degree, whether you can get, you know, 12 feet of snow and people from the beautiful city of Buffalo or
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[SPEAKER_01]: having to dig out that brand new stadium because they didn't put a dome on it and and get it ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a game that definitely favors Josh Allen and the bills.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just hope the bears are able to stay competitive and healthy in that football game.
47:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kill Williams played well and cold weather.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we'll see what happens in that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, we obviously lean towards Buffalo and that spot assuming that both quarterbacks are healthy at Josh Allen's healthy and on the football field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't be more anti-Christmas game for the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You hit on the head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that spot should go to the NBA.
47:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think last year we saw karma kind of bit them in the butt a little bit.
47:58
[SPEAKER_01]: All these injuries just rack up over the year and you just don't know who's going to be on the football field by this time of the year.
48:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So you put these big games on Netflix and all these other channels and they just become dots a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So here it's hoping knock on wood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We get a little bit more competitive game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At least it's at home for Beerus fans and the Beerus players, but I'm pretty anti-Christmas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also, yeah, I guess I'd do like the fact that it's early year in the day, but if you have young kids,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you got to be as close as you feel by like nine ten o'clock in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think that's a tough thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm anti-Christmas guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the last two games in the season, you know, I think that the Detroit one is the most important one because I think that's the game where it's going to have some playoff implications, whether you're trying to knock out a trait, whether you're trying to as as bears when the division or or or, you know, lock up a certain seed or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully they're in a spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: where they can win that football game and theoretically trying to ruster their starters for week 18 at Minnesota, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very similar to where the Packers had last year, even though the Packers didn't win the division, they wrestled all their starters in Minnesota last year too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think more and more over the last couple of years, those week, these week 18 games, the NFL keeps putting in the vision of opponents in there, hoping they can get some some magic and some powerful implications and more and more we're seeing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and actually just doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The season is so long, it was pouring in such a war of nutrition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the time the season is over, we get team yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to get the hell out of there and get to the playoffs and get that started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's hope and fingers cross.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By that point, the various have like 11 wins in the tank, and they can just rest their guys when we get team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I hope kind of nice for the players to obviously be playing indoors and those like you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lick in your wounds at this point, there's very long season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have to part two with schedule predictions and more on the players because we got to get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But thanks to everybody for...
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[SPEAKER_00]: checking out the show follow-at-second city greater and for all the bears news and of course uh... state tune for bears overbears at seven thirty p.m. central time on the schedule release uh... it's now sort of official but you know six thirty they said you know i'm i'm curious to see what the video will be if they pull out chance the rapper i know you have chance fatigue or for the c.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: punks of the world like it honor someone i don't know what what what what what
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[SPEAKER_01]: Roman Dunze, they hinted he had us for a while for video and he was tied up a button down shirt and they put up a how and a paint on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that could only mean that it's got to be a Bob Ross theme for us today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're getting Bob Ross tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, who is an icon, of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many kids of Bob Ross is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't Bob Ross.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I think it's better than what they gave us last year, which I think was the new girl, which I, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, that dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was like the mourn Morris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a good guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the new girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But everybody have a great week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Be good to each other out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So long, everybody.
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