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  Speaker 1: 21-year-old Jewel Jean Buskin, or Julie as she will be
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  Speaker 1: referred to, lived in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma in 1996. Julie
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  Speaker 1: was born and raised in Benton, Arkansas and moved to
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma to study at Oklahoma University. She worked at the
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  Speaker 1: university's golf course. Julie was on her way to earning
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  Speaker 1: her bachelor's degree in dance. She was an aspiring ballerina,
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  Speaker 1: and after college, Julie wanted to open up a studio
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  Speaker 1: and teach children to dance. Julie was described as popular
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  Speaker 1: and had many friends at school. She was also very talented.
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  Speaker 1: Julie spent the evening of December 19th of 1996 with
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  Speaker 1: her friend Ryan James at his grandparents' house. Ryan worked
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  Speaker 1: with Julie at the golf course. After dinner, they watched
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  Speaker 1: a movie. In addition, the two made plans to have
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  Speaker 1: lunch the next day. Julie stayed at his grandparents' house
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  Speaker 1: until 10 p.m., then left to hang out with some
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  Speaker 1: of her other friends. Julie and her friends played Monopoly
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  Speaker 1: and exchanged Christmas gifts at one of the friends' houses.
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  Speaker 1: Julie said her goodbyes since she was scheduled to move
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  Speaker 1: back home the next day. Her semester at college had
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  Speaker 1: just ended. Her roommate Megan was also there. Julie promised
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  Speaker 1: Megan she would give her a ride to Will Rogers
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  Speaker 1: Airport the next morning at 5 a.m. Julie and Megan
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  Speaker 1: decided to pull an all-nighter. They left the friend's house
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  Speaker 1: and drove to a restaurant called The Kettle around 2 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: When they were done, Julie and Megan drove to the
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  Speaker 1: gas station, got some gas and a cappuccino. They returned
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  Speaker 1: to their apartment a little after 3 o'clock a.m. to
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  Speaker 1: pick up Megan's belongings. A while later, the two left
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  Speaker 1: the apartment again and headed towards the airport around 4.30 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: It took them 30 minutes to get there. Julie dropped
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  Speaker 1: Megan off, and Megan watched Julie drive away from the
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  Speaker 1: airport in her Red Eagle Summit. Around 5.30 a.m. at
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  Speaker 1: the Dublin West Apartments where Julie lived, many of the
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  Speaker 1: residents heard a woman scream in terror. One of the
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  Speaker 1: residents made a 911 call to report what they had heard.
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  Speaker 2: A few hours later, Ryan James turned up at Julie's
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  Speaker 2: apartment for their scheduled lunch date. Julie was nowhere to
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  Speaker 2: be found, however. Her car was also missing.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan then reported her missing. Not long after that, Julie's
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  Speaker 1: parents arrived at her apartment. They drove from Arkansas to
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  Speaker 1: help Julie with her move back home. Instead of their daughter,
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  Speaker 1: they found policemen who informed them that Julie was missing.
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  Speaker 1: Twelve hours after she disappeared, Julie Buskin's body was found
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  Speaker 1: on the bank of a lake about 15 miles from
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  Speaker 1: her apartment. Her hands were tied behind her back with
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  Speaker 1: a pair of shoelaces, and from the waist up, she
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  Speaker 1: was in the water. Julie had been shot once execution style.
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  Speaker 1: The gunshot wound to the back of her head was
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  Speaker 1: a contact wound. There was also some evidence that she
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  Speaker 1: had been assaulted. At the lake, investigators found possible evidence
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  Speaker 1: in the sand near Julie's body. There were two sets
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  Speaker 1: of footprints that went down to the lake, and only
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  Speaker 1: one that returned. One set belonged to Julie and the
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  Speaker 1: other police believed belonged to the person who shot her.
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  Speaker 1: After examining the footprint and consulting Nike, it was determined
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  Speaker 1: that the footprint was consistent with a size 9 men's
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  Speaker 1: Nike running shoe, specifically a Nike Air 2 running shoe.
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  Speaker 1: About 20 feet from Julie's body, investigators found a crumpled
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  Speaker 1: pink leotard with the initials JB on the label. It
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  Speaker 1: was Julie's. The leotard had male DNA on it and
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  Speaker 1: was subsequently stored to be used later when DNA technology
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  Speaker 1: was more advanced. An autopsy confirmed Julie was shot with
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  Speaker 1: a single. 22 caliber bullet. The specific gun used was
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  Speaker 1: quite distinctive, but more on that later. Julie Buskin had
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  Speaker 1: quite a lot of friends at the university and investigators
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  Speaker 1: set out to interview as many of them as possible.
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  Speaker 1: They hoped someone could provide useful information, but that was
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  Speaker 1: not the case. There was no one that openly disliked
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  Speaker 1: Julie and she didn't have any bad breakups or anything
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  Speaker 1: of the sort. Police found Julie's apartment in perfect order.
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  Speaker 1: There were no signs of any struggle taking place. They
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  Speaker 1: found Julie's car in an apartment complex just one block
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  Speaker 1: away from where she lived. Red sand on the floor
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  Speaker 1: of the car looked similar to the red sand at
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  Speaker 1: the banks of the lake where Julie's body was found.
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  Speaker 1: This was seen as rather bizarre by investigators. Why would
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  Speaker 1: someone abduct Julie, take her life at the lake, and
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  Speaker 1: then drive her car back to almost the exact location
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  Speaker 1: where the abduction took place? Frustratingly, there were no foreign hairs, fibers,
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  Speaker 1: or prints in the car. Also, no evidence of a
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  Speaker 1: struggle taking place. Julie's phone was missing. Investigators obtained her
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  Speaker 1: cell phone records to see if it could be useful.
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  Speaker 1: The cell phone records indicated that someone made two phone
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  Speaker 1: calls after she was not alive anymore. One of the
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  Speaker 1: calls was for the weather forecast and the other to
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  Speaker 1: a number not in service at the time. Despite the
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  Speaker 1: leads and a $ 70, 000 reward, there were no significant breaks
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  Speaker 1: and the case went cold for a short while. Then
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  Speaker 1: a month after Julie's life was ended, a man called
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  Speaker 1: the police. He said that on the night Julie was abducted,
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  Speaker 1: he saw a car like hers pull out in front
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  Speaker 1: of him and they almost collided. This was near the lake.
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  Speaker 1: The witness followed Julie's car for about five miles because
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to confront the driver. The driver kept looking
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  Speaker 1: at the witness constantly through the rearview mirror and sped off.
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  Speaker 1: The witness... saw a glimpse of the driver's face and
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  Speaker 1: was then tasked with describing him to the investigators. This
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  Speaker 1: is the sketch they came up with of the young
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  Speaker 1: man that was driving Julie's car away from the lake.
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  Speaker 1: He was possibly a college student, possibly Hispanic with long
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  Speaker 1: black hair and a muscular build. The composite sketch was
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  Speaker 1: broadcast repeatedly by the local media in Oklahoma. No one
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  Speaker 1: recognized him. The case went cold for four and a
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  Speaker 1: half years. Police received a letter from a female inmate
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  Speaker 1: at the Oklahoma County Jail. She said an old acquaintance
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  Speaker 1: of hers might have taken Julie's life. He was 23-year-old
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  Speaker 1: Dennis Stermer. Stermer was a construction worker and had no
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  Speaker 1: criminal record. But at the time of the crime, he
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  Speaker 1: lived just four blocks away from Julie's apartment and he
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  Speaker 1: bore a resemblance to the composite sketch. Stermer refused to
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  Speaker 1: answer any questions and would not provide his DNA sample.
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  Speaker 1: police had to get a court order to collect his DNA.
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  Speaker 1: His DNA profile was very, very close to the sample
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  Speaker 1: that was taken off the leotard at the crime scene. Very,
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  Speaker 1: very close is not a match, and he was not
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  Speaker 1: considered a suspect anymore. Stermer's only immediate living male relative
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  Speaker 1: was his brother. This had to be him, right? It
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  Speaker 1: seemed like the five-year-old cold case was finally going to
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  Speaker 1: be solved. But in a twist... His brother's DNA didn't match. Again,
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  Speaker 1: the case went cold. Sadly, Julie's parents had to accept
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  Speaker 1: the possibility that they might not live long enough to
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  Speaker 1: see justice take place. Investigators were determined for that not
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  Speaker 1: to happen, and they essentially attempted to collect DNA from
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  Speaker 1: every male Julie ever came into contact with. Over 200
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  Speaker 1: men were tested, but no one matched. It seemed like
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  Speaker 1: the case might never get solved. Six years after Julie's
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  Speaker 1: life was taken, a man by the name of Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Castillo Sanchez was arrested for assaulting his girlfriend. After the arrest,
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  Speaker 1: Sanchez had to give a DNA sample to law enforcement
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  Speaker 1: for testing. Investigators noticed some interesting facts about Sanchez's background.
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  Speaker 1: He lived just one mile away from Julie's apartment. One
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  Speaker 1: of Sanchez's girlfriends showed investigators her diary for the month
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  Speaker 1: in which Julie's life was ended. There was an entry
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  Speaker 1: where she stated that Anthony bought her a pair of
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  Speaker 1: Nike running shoes and got himself one as well. Sanchez
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  Speaker 1: wore a size 9 shoe. If nothing else, it proved
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  Speaker 1: Sanchez owned a pair of sneakers the same brand and
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  Speaker 1: size as the perpetrator. Interestingly, one of Anthony's exes had
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  Speaker 1: a cell phone number that was just one digit off
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  Speaker 1: of the number that was dialed on Julie's phone after
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  Speaker 1: she was not alive anymore. It was possible that Sanchez
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  Speaker 1: tried to call the ex's number from memory, but got
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  Speaker 1: one digit wrong? Sanchez and his father had an unusual
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  Speaker 1: habit of firing. 22 caliber guns at the wall inside
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  Speaker 1: the house they rented. Investigators collected a bullet from the house.
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  Speaker 1: It was determined that the bullet came from the same
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  Speaker 1: gun as the one used to shoot Julie. Only six
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  Speaker 1: companies made. 22 caliber guns with the specific grooves found
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  Speaker 1: on the bullets. Finally, in 2004, Anthony Sanchez's DNA was
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  Speaker 1: compared to the male DNA found on Julie's leotard. It was,
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  Speaker 1: of course, a match. Sanchez was only 18 years old
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  Speaker 1: at the time of the crime. It is interesting to
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  Speaker 1: think about the fact that if he dialed the correct
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  Speaker 1: number on Julie's phone, he would have been caught instantly.
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Castillo Sanchez was convicted in 2006. It was decided
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  Speaker 1: that he was going to pay for the crime with
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  Speaker 1: his life. As recent as March of 2023, Sanchez was
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  Speaker 1: still challenging his conviction. He claimed it was his father
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  Speaker 1: who committed the crime and not him. His father, Glenn Sanchez,
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  Speaker 1: took his own life in April of 2022 and apparently
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  Speaker 1: told his girlfriend that it was him all along. But,
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  Speaker 1: investigators already looked at the possibility that the DNA could
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  Speaker 1: actually belong to Glenn Sanchez, and it was not the case.
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  Speaker 1: The probability of the match being a mistake is 1
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  Speaker 1: in 200 quadrillion for Caucasians, 1 in 20 quintillion for
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  Speaker 1: African Americans, and 1 in 94 quadrillion for Southwest Hispanics,
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  Speaker 1: according to the court documents. Anthony Sanchez is expected to
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  Speaker 1: be executed on September 21st of 2023. Murfreesboro, Tennessee is
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  Speaker 1: a place in the United States that saw a very
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  Speaker 1: famous battle take place during the Civil War, the Battle
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  Speaker 1: of Stones River. In recent years, Murfreesboro has enjoyed substantial
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  Speaker 1: growth with many people flocking there thanks to the university.
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  Speaker 1: In 1984, a crime took place involving a university student
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  Speaker 1: that's still talked about today in Murfreesboro. On May 31st
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  Speaker 1: of 1984, a farmer in Murfreesboro, Tennessee made a startling
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  Speaker 1: discovery on his way home. The farmer saw some clothing
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  Speaker 1: lying in the field and decided to approach. When he did,
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  Speaker 1: he noticed the body of a girl was under the clothing.
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  Speaker 1: She was only wearing a bra and was covered with
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  Speaker 1: two pairs of jeans and a dark jacket. The sleeve
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  Speaker 1: of the jacket was wrapped around her neck. Investigators determined
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  Speaker 1: the first pair of jeans were hers and the second
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  Speaker 1: pair were men's jeans. There were also a pair of
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  Speaker 1: underwear found clutched in one of her hands. She was
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  Speaker 1: identified as 18-year-old Laura Salmon. Laura was born on October 6,
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  Speaker 1: 1965 in Tennessee. At the time, Laura was a local
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  Speaker 1: college student. She attended Middle Tennessee State University in Murfreesboro, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: and furthermore, She also worked as a cashier at Kroger
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  Speaker 1: grocery store. The autopsy concluded that Laura lost her life
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  Speaker 1: due to blunt force trauma to the head. The weapon
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be the rocks found near her body. The
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  Speaker 1: blood on those rocks and other material were consistent with
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  Speaker 1: her being struck up to ten times in the head. Also,
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  Speaker 1: during the autopsy, The medical examiner found that Laura had
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  Speaker 1: been intimate with someone within the last 24 hours or
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  Speaker 1: 48 hours prior to her life being taken. There were
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  Speaker 1: no injuries or any evidence found that showed it was
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  Speaker 1: not consensual. Naturally, one of the biggest leads for investigators
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  Speaker 1: was the pair of men's jeans found on top of
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  Speaker 1: Laura's body. Investigators found male DNA on the jeans from
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  Speaker 1: a different individual than the male that was intimate with Laura.
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  Speaker 1: This DNA likely belonged to the perpetrator. Unfortunately, DNA testing
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  Speaker 1: was still in its infancy and there was not much
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  Speaker 1: else investigators could do with the DNA other than store it.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators then focused on creating a timeline of events hoping
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  Speaker 1: that it would help them solve the case. Laura started
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  Speaker 1: her day by going to her job at the Kroger
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  Speaker 1: grocery store. The records showed that she left the store
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  Speaker 1: around 1 p.m. After that, she was supposed to go
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  Speaker 1: to an appointment at the Middle Tennessee State University to
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  Speaker 1: check her grades and meet with some of the office personnel.
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  Speaker 1: She also had plans to go swimming at her grandmother's house,
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  Speaker 1: but never made it there or the university. Investigators found
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  Speaker 1: Laura's car near the store, miles away from where her
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  Speaker 1: body was found. Investigators were unable to find any fingerprints
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  Speaker 1: in the car that did not belong to Laura, but Interestingly,
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  Speaker 1: they did find a foreign hair. It was stored alongside
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  Speaker 1: the DNA evidence they collected from the pair of jeans.
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  Speaker 1: Equally important, investigators found dirt in the wheel wells. The
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  Speaker 1: FBI lab determined that they were consistent and that there
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  Speaker 1: was a high probability that Laura's car had been on
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  Speaker 1: the road right next to the crime scene. This meant
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  Speaker 1: that someone took Laura's life and then drove her car
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  Speaker 1: back to her place of work. Other than making the
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  Speaker 1: investigators believe the perpetrator knew Laura, the lead was not fruitful.
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  Speaker 1: Witnesses came forward and placed Laura at a local nightclub
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  Speaker 1: on the night before her life was taken. The witnesses
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  Speaker 1: said Laura was dancing with an unidentified young man, but
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  Speaker 1: investigators could not locate him. Laura's body was found in
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  Speaker 1: an area that often served as a lover's lane for
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  Speaker 1: high school and college students. They went there to party,
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  Speaker 1: have bonfires, etc. The theory then became that Laura met
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  Speaker 1: a guy at the nightclub after she finished work and
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  Speaker 1: they went to Lover's Lane. There, Laura denied the unknown
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  Speaker 1: guy's advances and he took her life. Since investigators could
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  Speaker 1: not identify the young man, they talked to Laura's high
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  Speaker 1: school boyfriend, David Kyle Gilley. He was known to be
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  Speaker 1: the jealous type, but he had an alibi. His stepfather
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  Speaker 1: told the police that David was home all day when
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  Speaker 1: Laura's life was taken so he could not be responsible. Thus,
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  Speaker 1: he was ruled out as a suspect. Just when investigators
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  Speaker 1: ran out of leads to follow, a woman in Nashville,
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee called the police with a possible lead. She claimed
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  Speaker 1: that she had been assaulted by a man named John Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: During the ordeal, Taylor apparently told her that he would
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  Speaker 1: do the same thing to her that he did to Laura.
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  Speaker 1: When questioned by the police, Taylor denied assaulting the woman
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  Speaker 1: and denied talking about Laura or having anything to do
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  Speaker 1: with her. A background check discovered that Taylor attended the
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  Speaker 1: same university as Laura. He was even a member of
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  Speaker 1: the same health club, Olympus Athletic Club and Spa. Taylor
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  Speaker 1: also attended the same fraternity, gatherings, and functions as Laura.
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  Speaker 1: Even more relevant, Taylor was near the university on the
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  Speaker 1: day that Laura's life was taken. Taylor had a history
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  Speaker 1: of being violent towards his girlfriends or his female companions.
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  Speaker 1: All this added to his possibility of being a suspect.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators then had FBI analysts compare Taylor's hair to the
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  Speaker 1: foreign hair they found inside of Laura's car. They received
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  Speaker 1: a report back from the FBI that the hair recovered
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  Speaker 1: from the vehicle was consistent with John Taylor's hair. Case closed, right?
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  Speaker 1: Another asshat caught. But not quite. At the time, mitochondrial
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  Speaker 1: DNA testing of human hair was still quite a few
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  Speaker 1: years away. The hair could have belonged to about 20%
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  Speaker 1: of the population. This was, of course, not concrete enough
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  Speaker 1: to arrest Taylor. Even though it seemed like a done deal,
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  Speaker 1: there would be a few more twists in this case.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators found nothing to link him to the crime scene
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  Speaker 1: or to confirm that he was with Laura on that day.
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  Speaker 1: The men's pair of jeans found at the crime scene
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  Speaker 1: had an inseam of 36 inches and the waist was
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  Speaker 1: 30 inches. Taylor was a small fellow and the jeans
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  Speaker 1: would not have fit him. Investigators had no choice but
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  Speaker 1: to move on to other suspects. Over the years, they
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  Speaker 1: looked into over 100 suspects, but nothing came of it.
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  Speaker 1: Laura's mother, Lorene Mackey made a promise to Laura at
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  Speaker 1: her grave. She promised Laura that she would see that
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  Speaker 1: justice was done. Lorene didn't really know how she would
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  Speaker 1: fulfill that promise, but she decided it was the last
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  Speaker 1: thing she could do for Laura. Many long years would
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  Speaker 1: pass before help finally came. Dan Goodwin was one of
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  Speaker 1: Laura's friends at the university. He went out with her
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  Speaker 1: a few nights before her life was ended. Dan asked
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  Speaker 1: her if she wanted to go see a movie and
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  Speaker 1: they wound up at the cinema on May 27, 1984,
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  Speaker 1: where they saw a matinee show of The Natural with
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  Speaker 1: Robert Redford. At Laura's funeral, Dan promised her mother that
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  Speaker 1: he would help find the perpetrator. After graduation, Dan became
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  Speaker 1: a newspaper reporter at the Daily News Journal in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. There,
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  Speaker 1: he became the police reporter. He wrote about a series
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  Speaker 1: of unsolved cases in 1987 which included Laura's case. Dan
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  Speaker 1: knew that he was more interested in the actual police
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  Speaker 1: work than simply just writing about it. Several years later,
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  Speaker 1: Dan left journalism and became a police officer. The very
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  Speaker 1: first cold case he was assigned was Laura Salmon's. One
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  Speaker 1: of the first things Dan did was send all of
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  Speaker 1: the evidence back to the forensic lab for testing. DNA
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  Speaker 1: technology had greatly advanced and completely new testing took place.
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  Speaker 1: While that was ongoing, Dan followed other leads, one of
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  Speaker 1: which came from a high school student. In 2000, a
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  Speaker 1: student at Oakland High School was talking about the Laura
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  Speaker 1: Salmon case. The student told everyone that his father took
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  Speaker 1: the life of a girl in 1984 and thrown her
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  Speaker 1: body away. The student's father was David Patterson. He had
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  Speaker 1: a police record for aggravated assault. Unfortunately, when Dan wanted
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  Speaker 1: to try to speak to Patterson, he learned that Patterson
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  Speaker 1: was not alive anymore. He had been fatally shot. Dan,
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  Speaker 1: of course, still decided to continue following the lead. They
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  Speaker 1: obtained DNA from Patterson's children. The DNA was compared to
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  Speaker 1: the male DNA found at the crime scene. It was
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  Speaker 1: not a match and he was ruled out as a suspect.
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  Speaker 1: Dan then went back to John Taylor who was initially
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  Speaker 1: a suspect in the case. His DNA also did not match.
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  Speaker 1: In case you were wondering, Dan also provided a DNA sample.
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  Speaker 1: After it was tested, it confirmed that Dan was not responsible.
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  Speaker 1: Dan then turned his attention to one man who went
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  Speaker 1: under the radar in the initial investigation. The name that
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  Speaker 1: caught his eye was David Gilley. As earlier mentioned, David
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  Speaker 1: was Laura's high school boyfriend, a year younger than her.
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  Speaker 1: He was initially ruled out because of the alibi he
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  Speaker 1: was given by his stepfather. Dan, however, found that a
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  Speaker 1: witness came forward that directly contradicted that alibi. The witness
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  Speaker 1: saw David Gilley driving Laura's car on the day that
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  Speaker 1: her body was found. She spotted him not far from
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  Speaker 1: the road that led to the area where Laura was found.
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  Speaker 1: According to the witness, David had a blank expression on
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: his face and was just staring straight ahead. She was
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: able to identify him through a photo lineup as well
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: as Laura's car. Dan also saw David's propensity of violence
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: towards women in his life. This included Laura Salmon. Sometimes
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: he would get mad at her, grab her by the head,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: banging her head into cars, school lockers, or whatever was nearby.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: He even sometimes punched her. On one occasion, he broke
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: out two of her front teeth. Dan could not believe
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: David Gilley was so quickly ruled out during the initial investigation.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: David was approximately 6 foot 2 inches tall, and the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: men's jeans that were found at the crime scene would
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: have fit him perfectly. Dan then got Jerry Findley's help
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: on the case. He is a crime scene reconstructionist. Jerry
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: found tiny drops of blood in the jeans. It was
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: medium velocity impact spatter. This sort of spatter usually gets
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: produced when someone is hit with a blunt object such
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: as a rock. The majority of the bloodstains were just
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: above the knee. This indicated that the perpetrator was kneeling
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: on the ground as he was hitting Laura with the rocks.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: All of this evidence just confirmed to investigators that the
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: men's pair of jeans belonged to the person who took
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Laura's life. It was already believed, but DNA testing confirmed
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that the blood on the jeans belonged to Laura. Dan
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: then tracked David Gilley down in Florida. By then, Gilley
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: was twice divorced and he was working for the Manatee
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: County Public Works Department. Unsurprisingly, he had a police record.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Gilly had arrests for battery, attempted burglary, and resisting arrest.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: When Dan questioned Gilly, he once again denied any involvement
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: and said that he is not responsible for what happened
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: to Laura. In a strange twist, Gilly did admit that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the jeans were probably his. When investigators told him that
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: they believed the owner of the jeans is the perpetrator,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: he quickly requested an attorney. Investigators then obtained a saliva
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: sample from David Gilley. On May 31st of 2000, DNA
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: testing proved that Gilley was the donor of the DNA
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: found at the crime scene and thus, responsible for taking
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Laura's life. On the 16th anniversary of the crime, David
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Gilley was finally arrested. Dan the Man kept his promise
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to help Laura's mother in solving the case and Laura's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: mother kept her promise to Laura that she would see
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: justice take place. The motive was believed to be jealousy.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: If Gilly could not have Laura, he believed no one
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: else could either. When she went off to college and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: he was still in high school, she made new friends
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and he didn't like that. He would often stalk her.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Laura's mother tried to convince Laura to get a restraining
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: order against Gilly, but she was too afraid. Investigators believe
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: that Gilly somehow coaxed Laura out to the deserted lover's lane,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: where he struck her in the head repeatedly with rocks.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: After seeing that there was blood on his jeans, Gilly
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: took them off and left them at the crime scene.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: He then drove Laura's car to her workplace where it
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: would later be found. In September of 2006, David Gilly
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: went on trial. The defense claimed the presence of another
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: man's DNA was proof that someone else was at the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: crime scene. The jury never believed any other DNA at
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the crime scene belonged to the real perpetrator. Gilly was
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: found guilty of all the charges against him and he
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: was sentenced to life in prison. Narborough is an extremely
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: safe village in Leicestershire, England. It is known for one
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: crime and one crime only. It took place in 1983.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Fifteen-year-old Linda Mann lived in Narborough. She attended Lutterworth Grammar
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: School and Community College. She was the younger sister of
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Susan Mann, who was two years her senior. Their mother
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: was Kathleen Mann, who moved to Narborough after her marriage ended.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Kathleen married Edward Eastwood in 1980 when Susan was 14
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and Linda was 12. Linda was described as a typical teenager.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: She was quiet, but popular. She liked school and enjoyed
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: being with friends. Linda had little trouble with adolescents. An
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: adventurous girl, she liked everything about growing up, music, hairstyles, makeup,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and clothes. If money for clothes was a bit short,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Linda would babysit to earn money and make her own dresses.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: On November 21st of 1983, Linda walked to a friend's
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: house but never made it there. She promised Kathleen and
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Edward that she would be home by 10 p.m. By midnight,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Linda was still not home. Her frantic parents called the police.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: They searched all night for her. A hospital porter discovered
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: her body at 7.20am as he was on his way
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: to work. He initially thought it was a mannequin. Linda
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: had been assaulted and strangled. Her jeans were removed and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the rest of her clothes were strewn about. She had
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: a scarf around her neck. The scarf was used to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: strangle her. When people in Narborough heard about the crime,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: they were absolutely horrified. Young girls were encouraged to walk
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: in groups from then on. Investigators searched the immediate area
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: around the crime scene but were not able to find
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: anything useful. Only a few hundred yards away from the
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: crime scene, there was a local psychiatric hospital. Some people
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: believed that the perpetrator could be a patient at the hospital,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: but no evidence of this was found. During the autopsy,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: male DNA was collected from Linda's body. The individual had
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: type A blood. This meant about 10% of the adult
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: male population in England could be responsible. Edward's blood was
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: taken and it was found he was not the same
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: 10% blood group as the slayer of Linda. A group
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: of investigators walked from house to house to see if
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: they could gather any information. Other investigators made a list
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: of all offenders of similar crimes in Leicestershire and went
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: about questioning them all. Investigators received a call about a
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: spiky-haired youth. The person on the phone claimed to have
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: seen him at about 8 p.m., about two minutes away
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: from where Linda's body was found. Unfortunately, he was never identified.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: For three long years, investigators tried to find the perpetrator.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It was then, in 1986, that tragedy struck again. Fifteen-year-old
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Dawn Ashworth lived in Enderby, Leicestershire with her parents and
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: her brother Andrew. She was gifted at drawing. She had
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a part-time job working at the newsagent's shop in Enderby.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: On July 31st of 1986, Dawn left work at 4 p.m.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and headed to her friend's house in Narborough. She was
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: told to be home by 7pm. Dawn was last seen
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: at 4.40pm by passing motorists passing King Edward Avenue. By 7.30pm,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: with no sign of Dawn, her parents got concerned. They
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: drove through Narborough and they couldn't find her. At 9.40 p.m.,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: they called the police. They could not help but think
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: of Linda Mann and hoping their daughter did not suffer
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a similar fate. A few days later, police officers searching
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: for Dawn found her body in a field beside Ten
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Pound Lane. She had been assaulted and strangled. Male DNA
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: collected from Dawn's body revealed the attacker had the same
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: blood type as the man that slayed Linda Mann. This
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: was not the only similarity. Both crimes took place on footpaths.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Both girls were teenagers and both walking alone. They were
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: both found in similar circumstances having suffered the same fate.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Linda and Dawn both attended Lutterworth Grammar School and Community College.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: At the foot of 10-pound lane, the police parked a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: mobile incident room to take information from villagers and passers-by.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: The police took about 200 telephone calls and dozens of
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: people visited the mobile unit. The most promising new lead
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: concerned a motorcycle that had been parked under the motorway bridge.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: There were several reports of a young man in a
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: red crash helmet observed in the vicinity sometime around 5 p.m.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: on the day of the crime. On August 1st, the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: day after Dawn was reported missing, but a day before
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: her body was found, a policewoman and a detective saw
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a youth on a red motorcycle and a red crash
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: helmet take an interest in the search. A police constable
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: on security duty was approached by a 17-year-old kitchen porter
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: from Carlton Hayes Hospital. It is the psychiatric hospital close
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to where both Linda and Dawn's bodies were found. The
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: kitchen porter said, told the constable that he saw Dawn
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: walking on the day she disappeared. The constable arranged that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: they talk to him later again to find out some
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: more information. Before they could talk to him again, valuable
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: information was given to the incident room. The information came
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: from the kitchen porter's friend who also worked at the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Carlton Hayes Hospital. This friend had been on holiday the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: day Dawn went missing, but he had gone to the
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: hospital to collect his wages. The kitchen porter said, visited
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: him at 10 p.m. and excitedly told him that Dawn's
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: body had been found in a hedge near a gate
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: by the M1 bridge. The friend's father overheard the conversation
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: and asked the kitchen porter where he had gotten his
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: information because nothing about Dawn's case had been on the television.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Someone told me, the kitchen porter said mysteriously, her body
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: was hanging from a tree. Dawn's body wasn't hanging from
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: a tree. But she was concealed beneath tree limbs and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: other debris. She was found inside an access gate leading
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: from 10-pound lane to the fields. It was just a
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: 10-minute walk from the M1 bridge. How did the kitchen
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: porter have all the information about where Dawn's body was
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: more than 12 hours before police found her body? After
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: investigators learned all of this information, they went to his
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: house to arrest him. The kitchen porter is Richard Buckland. Buckland,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: was then driven to Wigston Police Station so he could
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: be interrogated further. Buckland gave inconsistent statements to investigators, but
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: did admit that he saw Dawn on the day she
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: disappeared and that he did talk to her. Through his rambles,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: he at one point confessed to everything and then quickly
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: took it all back. During the third interview with him,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Buckland gave a detailed confession. he was able to give
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: so many facts about the crime scene that were not
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: public at the time. Before Richard Buckland went on trial,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Dawn Ashworth was buried. Four weeks after she was taken
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: from a village footpath, she was buried in a little
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: cemetery behind St. John Baptist Church in Enderby. The vicar
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: described her as a bright, lively, charming young lady, obedient
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to her parents, loyal to her family, and full of
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the joy of life. 200 people showed up at the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: cemetery behind the stone church to bid farewell to Don.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Investigators were still building up their case against Richard Buckland
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and heard about something called DNA testing. They were already
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: convinced that he took Don's life and probably Linda Mann's
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: as well, but they figured they could try this new technology.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: All the DNA evidence from both crime scenes were sent
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to a young geneticist. He worked at Leicestershire University and
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: claimed to have come up with a wondrous new discovery
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: called genetic fingerprinting. The geneticist was Dr. Alec Jeffries. Dr.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Jeffries was not sure how he could do what investigators
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: wanted him to do. This sort of analysis had never
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: been done before. Dr. Jeffries first used his technique to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: resolve an immigration case and after that a paternity dispute.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: This would be the first time that this new technology
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: would be used in a criminal case to reveal the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: identity of a perpetrator. To everyone's surprise, when the DNA
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: tests came back, it showed that Buckland was innocent and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: did not take Linda's life. Even more surprising, he did
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: not take Dawn's life either. Dr. Jeffrey's tests, however, were
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: able to determine that investigators did at least get one
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: thing right. It was the same man responsible for both crimes.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Richard Buckland was then released and became the first person
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to be exonerated through the use of DNA profiling. Inspector
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Derek Pierce then took charge of the investigation. Pierce read 1,800
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: messages that came from the public. One of the messages
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: pertained to a man whose name had popped up on
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: the Linda Mann inquiry because he was unalibied and had
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a prior record for flashing. Of course, hundreds of names
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: had been called in anonymously by wives, lovers, rivals, neighbors,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and many of those names belonging to people with prior
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: indecency arrests. This one wasn't worth special attention because in
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the earlier inquiry, he had been shown not to have
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: moved to the village until one month after Linda's slaying.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: The message about him that the police received read, You
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: ought to have a look at a man in Littlethorpe
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: named Colin Pitchfork. With there being so many unalibied men
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: in the area, investigators came up with a new idea.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: They started to see what DNA could do, and decided
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: that every unalibied male resident in the villages between ages
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: of 17 and 34 years old would be asked to
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: submit blood and saliva samples voluntarily. It was announced to
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the public on the 2nd of January, 1987. Derek Pierce
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: didn't believe the perpetrator was going to simply volunteer. He said,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: we just hope it might somehow flush him out. By
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the end of January, a thousand men had taken the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: tests and only a quarter of that number had been cleared.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: The forensic laboratory was swamped, and it seemed certain that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the testing was going to take longer than the early
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: estimation of two months. By May, 3,653 men had taken
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the tests, yet only 2,000 had been eliminated. due to
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the workload under which the laboratory technicians labored. Then, on
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: September 18th of 1987, the police received a call that
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: they had been waiting for. A woman called and said
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: she heard a concerning conversation take place between a group
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: of friends in the Clarendon pub in Leicester. One of
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the men, Ian Kelly, talked out loud about how he
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: took the blood test for the investigation on behalf of
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: a friend, Colin Pitchfork. Investigators looked into Pitchfork's file and
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: saw his history of flashing women. They also saw that
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: his signature from when they did house calls did not
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: match the signature that he made or gave on the
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: day he supposedly took the blood test. He was married
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to Carol Pitchfork. He worked at a bakery, and Pitchfork
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: was known as a womanizer and had a string of affairs.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: On September 19th of 1987... Derek Pierce went to Ian
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Kelly's house to ask him some questions. Ian was also
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: a baker, and he worked with Colin Pitchfork. Ian at
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: first denied taking Pitchfork's blood test, but then admitted it.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Ian told Pierce what Pitchfork had told him. Pitchfork said
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: that he was worried the police would assume he was
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: responsible for what happened to Linda and Dawn based on
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: his history of flashing. Pitchfork was a master manipulator and
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: convinced Ian to go to the incident room and take
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the blood test on his behalf. Later that day, a
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: group of investigators went to Pitchfork's house. Detective Mick Thomas
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: gave it to him straight. From inquiries that we have made,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: we believe you're responsible for taking Dawn Ashworth's life on
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the 31st of July, 1986. We believe another man gave
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a blood sample for you. I am arresting you. Do
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: you understand? Colin Pitchfork didn't deny it. His face said
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it all. He knew he had been caught. He even
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: explained that he entered a photo of Ian Kelly in
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: his passport so investigators would not suspect anything. When Carol
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Pitchfork entered the room, it was explained to her what
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: was going on. She immediately started kicking and punching her husband. Understandably,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: investigators were slow to stop her. At the police station,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Pitchfork first explained what he did to Linda Mann. He
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: said that he planned on flashing her, but it turned
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: into more when he realized she would recognize him one day.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: After he committed the crime, Pitchfork went back to his
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: car where his and Carol's baby was tied up in
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: his seat and went home. Pitchfork then told investigators what
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: he did to Don Ashworth. Both crimes happened the exact
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: same way. He told investigators that he knew what he
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: was doing but could not stop himself from doing those things.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Pitchfork also said that he tried to take Ian Kelly's
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: life a few times to make sure he never talked,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: but his plans always failed. On January 22nd of 1988,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: 28-year-old Colin Pitchfork went on trial at the Crown Court
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: in Leicester. Firstly, Ian Kelly was given an 18-month prison
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: sentence suspended for two years, which meant he would not
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: have to serve time. When Ian stepped out of the courtroom,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: he faced the media. I was wrong for doing what
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I did. I am sorry for whoever I caused grievance to.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Colin Pitchfork was dressed in summer clothes, jeans and a
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: short-sleeved shirt. he pleaded guilty to taking the lives of
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: both Linda Mann and Don Ashworth. He received a double
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: life sentence for his crimes. Much to the astonishment of investigators,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the judge did not give a recommendation for a minimum term.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Without such a recommendation, the life sentence in Britain was
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: similar to that in the United States, which meant that
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Colin Pitchfork could conceivably be released in 10 or 12 years.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: The police were outraged. Linda Mann's stepfather, Eddie Eastwood, said,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Pitchfork looked at me, eye to eye. He just stared
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: at me as if to say, Well, what's the matter
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: with you? I could not make him out. He looked
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: almost human. Linda's mother, Kathleen, said, It was the shock
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: of seeing him. I did not look up when the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: lawyer passed those photos of Linda to the bench. Those
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: photos of how she looked when they found her, the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: cover dropped open, and the audience gasped when they saw
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the photos. My brother saw them and cried. Luckily, I
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: did not look up. He must never be allowed to
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: walk the streets again. He should hang. With this new
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: DNA genetic fingerprint, there is no chance of a person
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: being later proved innocent after he has been hanged. There
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: is no excuse anymore. When all the dust settled, investigators
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: still faced the question of why Richard Buckland knew so
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: many details of the crime scene of Dawn Ashworth. They
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: believe that he stumbled upon her body on his way
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: to work. He has often been described as the village idiot,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: and it is believed that played a part in why
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: he confessed. The cases of Linda Mann and Dawn Ashworth
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: are seen as a big reason why DNA technology has
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: advanced so much. Today, Thousands of cold cases have been
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: solved thanks to Dr. Alec Jeffries. Debbie Ann Dudley Davis
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: was born in Lynchburg, Virginia on July 15, 1952. She
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: had a brief marriage after school that ended in divorce.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Debbie then followed her cousin, Judy Fisk, to Richmond, Virginia,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and moved into an apartment on Devonshire Street in the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Westover Hills neighborhood. Debbie started working as Style Weekly's accounts
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: manager in 1985. They are a media outlet based in Richmond.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Debbie was a pop culture fan who enjoyed Bruce Springsteen records.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: She was an extra in the HBO movie Finnegan Begin Again.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Debbie was an avid mystery novel reader. She worked a
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: couple nights a week at the Walden Bookstore at Cloverleaf
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Mall in Chesterfield County. On the evening of September 18th
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: of 1987, Debbie and her co-worker Deanna Hoth took a
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: road trip to Virginia Beach. They went to see a
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: performance by Dana Carvey. After the show, Deanna dropped Debbie
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: at her apartment and waited to drive off until she
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: was safely inside. Little did Deanna know this would be
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: the last time she ever saw Debbie again. The next morning,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: a man named Arnold Ellis saw a Renault Alliance parked
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: in front of his house. He noticed the motor was running.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: The keys were in the ignition, and there was no
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: sign of the car's driver. Arnold Ellis then called the police.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Police officers determined that the car belonged to Debbie Davis.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: She lived one street over from Arnold Ellis. A police
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: officer knocked on Debbie's door but got no response. An
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: elderly neighbor then came to give the officer a key. Inside,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: the officer saw Debbie's body face down on her bed.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: She was topless, wearing only a pair of cut-off jean shorts.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Her right arm was tied behind her back with thick bootlaces.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Debbie's left arm was tied beneath her. The perpetrator tightly
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: twisted a black sock around her neck. She had been
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: strangled and assaulted. Investigators discovered that the perpetrator stole a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: rocking chair from a nearby porch and propped it up
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: outside Debbie's kitchen window to gain entrance. Next to Debbie's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: bed on her nightstand was a mystery novel she had
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: been reading called Presumed Innocent. It was about a woman
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: who was tied up and then her life was taken.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Investigators knew the perpetrator was smart and most likely experienced.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: He left no fingerprints, there were no witnesses, and nothing
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: had been taken as far as investigators could tell. Detective
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Ray Williams said, Lorna Wyckoff, the founder of Style Weekly,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: posted a $ 10, 000 reward for information leading to an arrest.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Investigators looked at people in Debbie's life to see if
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: anyone stood out, but found nothing. Debbie led a quiet life.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Debbie was not dating anyone, she had not seen her
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: ex-husband in years, and she did not use drugs and
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: did not hang out in bars. Just two weeks after
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Debbie's life was ended, tragedy would strike again in Richmond, Virginia.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Susan Elizabeth Hellams was born on February 6th of 1955
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: in Charleston, South Carolina. She moved to Richmond, Virginia to
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: work on her residency in neurosurgery at the Medical College
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: of Virginia. Susan married Marcel Slagg and bought a house
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: in the tranquil Woodland Heights neighborhood in Richmond. On October
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: 3rd of 1987, Marcel pulled up to their house at 1.45 a.m.,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: As he entered the house, he could hear her moving
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: around upstairs. Marcel knew she had worked late and thought
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: he might have woken her up. He quickly took a
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: shower and silently crept into their dark bedroom. As his
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: eyes adjusted to the darkness, he could make out a
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: sight from a horror movie. His wife's partially nude body
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: laying half out of their bedroom closet. A red leather
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: belt was around her neck. Susan's hands had been bound
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: tightly behind her back with an extension cord and necktie.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Just like Debbie, Susan had been assaulted and strangled. Marcel
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: saw their bedroom window was wide open. Their house was
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: a little less than a mile away from Debbie Davis' house.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Detective Ray Williams was on duty that night and was
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: ordered to work both cases. Williams said that the perpetrator
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: was still in the house when Marcel arrived home. He
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: heard somebody upstairs. It couldn't have been Susan. She was
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: already gone. On the balcony outside the window, investigators found
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: an open Vaseline jar left by the perpetrator. They traced
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: its purchase to a store adjacent to nearby Cloverleaf Mall.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: The lead was followed but led to nowhere. Realizing a
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: serial offender is in their midst, the community erupted into fear.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: They demanded action from the police. Williams worked tirelessly for
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: days and finally, he did find a clue that could
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: potentially be useful. When he looked through the financial records
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: at the Cloverleaf Mall Walden bookstore where Debbie worked part-time,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: he found a check written by Susan and endorsed on
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the back by Debbie. Williams wasn't sure if this was
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: just a coincidence or if it was a possible link
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: between the two crimes. As Detective Williams pondered this question...
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Yet another horrendous crime took place in the Richmond area.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Diane Cho was born in Korea in 1972. She and
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: her family immigrated to the United States in 1984. On 1987,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: 15-year-old Diane was a freshman at Manchester High School. She
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: was very smart and took care of virtually everything for
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: her parents who barely spoke English. In October of 1987,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Diane told one of her friends about a disturbing recurring
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: nightmare she had been having. Diane kept having dreams about
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: an unknown man following her. She also told her friends
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: at school that she sometimes saw this unknown man from
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: her dreams at the mall one night in november of
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: 1987 diane went to the cloverleaf mall theater with a
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: friend they bought tickets for the princess bride She then
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: began trembling with fright and pointed out her stalker, who
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: was staring at them from the parking lot. It had
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: been barely five months since Diane's family moved to Richmond,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: where her parents worked long hours running a convenience store
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: near Virginia Commonwealth University. It's not known if Diane ever
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: told her parents about the encounter with the unknown man
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: at the Cloverleaf Mall. On the night of November 21st
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: of 1987, Diane's parents arrived home to their apartment around 9.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Diane's mother then gave her a haircut. As they went
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: to bed around midnight, they could hear Diane typing out
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: an English paper in her bedroom across the hall. The
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: next day, Diane's parents called home around 2 p.m. to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: remind their children to get ready for an afternoon church service.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Diane's 12-year-old brother, Roman... answered the phone. Diane was still
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: asleep and he did not want to anger her by
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: waking her up. Diane's parents arrived home about an hour
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: later and her mother went straight to Diane's bedroom and
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: opened the door. Diane's mom then screamed loudly. Diane was
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: tied up with rope. She had been strangled and assaulted
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: and her bedroom window was open. You can clearly see
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the pattern of all the crimes. It would happen again
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: for the fourth time. 44-year-old Sue Tucker lived in Arlington County,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Virginia in November of 1987. She was an editor for
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: a Department of Agriculture magazine. Her husband, Reg Tucker, was
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: a former photographer for the Fairfax County Public Schools. Reg
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: had taken a job as a photography teacher in his
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: native country of Wales in early 1987. Sue was preparing
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the couple's home for sale and winding down her projects
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: at work as she planned to join her husband in Wales. Ironically,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: they wanted to immigrate because of an increase in violence
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: in the United States. They were worried about crime. A
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: neighbor of the couple, Audrey Sizelove, had been unable to
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: reach Sue for a few days and noticed that Sue's
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: bedroom window had been open for days. When Audrey tried
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: to enter their home to check on her friend, She
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: smelled an odor like rotting flesh. She called the police,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: who arrived and found Sue's badly decomposing body laid out
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: across her bed. She had been tightly bound in nylon ropes, strangled,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: and assaulted. There were no fingerprints. The perpetrator had broken
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: in through a small basement laundry room window. Before leaving,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: he had taken the time to fix a snack. He
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: discarded a partially eaten orange on the Tucker's dining room table.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: While investigators were inside the house, the telephone rang. It
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: was Reg Tucker. The last few days he had been
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: trying to reach Sue, police officers had to give him
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the horrible news. Arlington investigators who were assigned to the
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: case realized the crime was very similar to the one
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: that took place in January of 1984. It was then
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: that 32-year-old attorney Carolyn Hamm was slain. Her body had
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: been found not far from Sue Tucker's home. David Vasquez,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: a fast food worker with a low IQ, had confessed
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: to that crime and was serving a 35-year prison sentence
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: for it. If he was in prison, why were there
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: identical crimes being committed almost four years later? Arlington County
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Detective Joe Horges was the lead investigator on Sue Tucker's case.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: He traveled to the prison to interview David Vasquez because
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the modus operandi was the same. The hands tied behind
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the back, rope around the neck, and they were both assaulted.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: After the interview, it was clear to the detective that
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Vasquez was not at all involved with what happened to Sue.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: As investigators in both Arlington County and Richmond investigated their cases,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: they noticed something. Just like Richmond had a serial offender
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: attacking women in their homes in 1987, Arlington County had
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: their own maniac in 1983 and 1984. It all started
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: in Arlington in June of 1983 with the abduction and
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: assault of a woman in the county's Green Valley area
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: by a knife-wielding black man in his late teens or
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: early 20s wearing a homemade mask. Over the next seven months,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: as his attacks escalated, He abducted women in their cars
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: and entered their houses and apartments through unlocked windows. He
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: relentlessly assaulted and brutalized nine women. He tied some of
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: them up with nylon cords cut from their Venetian blinds.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Former Arlington County Commonwealth's attorney, Halen Fahey, was quoted as
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: saying he was a one-person crime wave. In January of 1984,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: an Arlington woman came home to discover evidence from an
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: unsettling break-in. The cords of her Venetian blinds had been
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: cut and were laid out on her bed. The intruder
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: left the house. It seemed like he was there waiting
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: for her to come home and got tired of waiting.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: It was four days after that that Carolyn Hamm was
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: found bound and strangled in her garage. Arlington police arrested
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: David Vasquez and charged him with taking her life. Vasquez
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: did not match the description that any of the assault
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: victims gave, but the crimes in the area did stop.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: It was only after Sue Tucker's slaying that investigators learned
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: the perpetrator of all the assaults was definitely not Vasquez
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: and the unknown man took a brief hiatus and then
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: continued his attacks in Richmond. Detective Horges received a teletype
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: from Richmond police where they described the identical strangulations of
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Debbie Davis, Susan Hellams, and Diane Cho. After sharing all
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the information, investigators concluded it was the same man responsible
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: for all the crimes, perhaps even Carolyn Hamm's slaying. The
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: investigation stalled for another few agonizing weeks while they hoped
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: for a break in the case before the strangler could
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: take another life. Investigators looked at the timeline of the crimes.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Many of them took place in 1983 to 1984 and
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: then continued in 1987. the FBI felt that the perpetrator
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: would not have stopped his attacks of his own volition.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: It was likely that he had been jailed for another
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: offense between the slayings of Carolyn Hamm and Debbie Davis.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: As detectives tried to think about possible suspects, one of
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: them thought of Tommy Spencer. He was a teenager that
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: was arrested for burglary during the mid-1970s. Investigators discovered that
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Spencer had been arrested in January of 1984 for break-ins
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: in neighboring Alexandria. He had been paroled to a halfway
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: house in Richmond in 1987 right before Debbie's life was taken.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Investigators went to the halfway house. They found that Spencer
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: signed himself out on every evening a crime took place.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: He got a furlough to go to Arlington on the
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: day that Sue Tucker's life was taken. Investigators decided to
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: put Spencer under surveillance. They wanted to catch him in
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the act of doing something incriminating. Over two weeks, plainclothes
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Richmond police officers observed Spencer committing parole violations, like spending
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: the night at his girlfriend's house. They were intrigued to
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: find that he would hang out for hours at Cloverleaf Mall.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: As you remember, the mall had strong ties to Debbie Davis,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Susan Helms, and Diane Cho. On January 20th of 1988,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Arlington and Richmond detectives took Spencer into custody and took
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: a sample of his blood. Without witnesses or fingerprints or
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: any other direct evidence tying Spencer to the crimes, law
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: enforcement had to rely on a brand new forensic science
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: method called DNA fingerprinting. At that stage, it has only
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: been used in one cold case in the United Kingdom
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: and never before in the United States. It was the
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: case of Linda Mann and Dawn Ashworth. It would take
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: more than six weeks, but a private lab in New
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: York would report back that Spencer's DNA had been matched
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: to male DNA at the crime scenes of Debbie Davis, Dr.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Susan Hellams, Susan Tucker, and assault victims in Arlington and Richmond.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Timothy Spencer was the man who had become known as
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: the Southside Strangler. He went to trial in July of 1988.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: After a six-day trial, he was found guilty. It was
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: the first conviction based on DNA evidence in the United States.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Spencer was given multiple life sentences. What about Carolyn Hamm
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: and David Vasquez, you ask? Why was he found guilty
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: of the crime if he didn't match the description that
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: was given by victims of any other crime in the area?
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: David Vasquez, first became a suspect in that case because
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Carolyn complained that he was peeping on her while she
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: was sunbathing in the week leading up to her demise.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: With his low IQ, it was easy for investigators to
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: get a false confession out of him. They revealed all
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: of the details to him, and he parroted it back
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: to them. After DNA linked Timothy Spencer to all the
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: other crimes, investigators were serious doubting that Vasquez was involved.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: DNA soon proved it as well, and David was released.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: David became known as the first person in the United
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: States that was exonerated thanks to DNA. Shortly before 11pm
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, April 27th of 1994, Timothy Wilson Spencer was
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: strapped into Virginia's sturdy Oaken electric chair dubbed Old Sparky
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: at Greensville Correctional Center and was executed, finally bringing a
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: stop to the horrendous crime spree.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Catherine Louise Martin was born on October 25, 1959. Her
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: family and friends referred to her as Kathy. Kathy met
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: Mike Odom in high school when they were 16 years old.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: They dated for a while and then decided to marry.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Before they could get married, Mike was arrested for selling heroin.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: He sold it to an undercover officer. He was sentenced
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: to six years for this crime, but only served two.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Kathy told her family that she was set on marrying
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: him when he got released. Two years later, when he
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: was freed... they did end up marrying. Kathy and Mike
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: had two children together, Tasha and Sean. They lived in
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Harris County, Texas. Kathy's father, Frankie Martin, decided to give
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Mike a job at his sign business. Kathy did everything
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: to ensure the marriage worked. She was also described as
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: a loving mother who would have done anything for her kids.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: On the night of March 3rd, 1987, Mike tried to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: contact Kathy. He was out of town working. Kathy was
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: supposed to be home with the children, so it was
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: alarming to him when she did not answer the phone.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Mike called their next-door neighbor and asked him to check
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: up on Kathy and their children. The neighbor knocked on
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: the door, but there was no answer. He looked in
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: through the windows and saw that the television was still on.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Instead of calling police, the neighbor drove into town, found
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: a policeman, and they both drove back to the Odom's house.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: The officer found the front door to be unlocked. He
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: entered the house, and inside of the living room sofa
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: was four-year-old Tasha. She had been beaten badly and unconscious,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: but was fortunately still alive. Two-month-old Sean was found unharmed
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: in his bedrooms. In Kathy and Mike's bedroom, the officer
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: found Kathy's battered, naked body. She was covered in blood.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Kathy had been severely beaten and stabbed more than 16 times.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: She had also been strangled, assaulted, and her wrists were
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: bound with a cord to a lamp. Officers feared that
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: the person responsible for this would come back and finish
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: the job they started with Tasha. Both Tasha and Sean
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: were taken to the hospital. It was ordered that they
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: could not be left alone. Kathy's father, Frankie, arrived at
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: the crime scene. He was told to go to the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: hospital to be with his grandchildren. While at the hospital,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Frankie learned about what happened to his daughter on a
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: TV screen. Meanwhile, back at the house, Mike finally arrived.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Policemen paid special attention to his appearance. One of the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: officers noted that Mike had several red stains on his shirt.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: It looked like blood. A search of the Odom's house
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: revealed blood in the bathroom. The perpetrator, possibly Mike, had
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: attempted to clean up before leaving. Police found no sign
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: of a break-in. All doors were locked except for the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: front door. This indicated that Kathy knew the person that
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: took her life. The fact that she was stabbed so
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: many times also told investigators it was a personal crime.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Kathy's clothes told police something about what happened. They were
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: found neatly folded on the floor. Investigators theorized that the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: perpetrator attacked Tasha in order to get whatever he wanted
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: from Kathy. Back at the hospital, Tasha was in critical condition.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: She was in a coma and was reliant on IVs.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: While doctors worked on saving her life, investigators focused on
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: her father, Mike Odom. He appeared emotional and distraught, but
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: investigators had their doubts about him from the start. Investigators
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: discovered that Mike did not come straight home from work
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: like he said he would. He had gone out with
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: friends of his. To investigators, it was something they had
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: seen before. An individual arranging a slaying, being at a
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: different location, then calling someone else to go check in
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: on the victim. Mike's clothing was taken to the forensic
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: lab for testing. That was not all. Investigators also found
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: strange stains on the car floor of the neighbor, Tim Robinson.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: It was clear to investigators. Tim and Mike conducted a
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: plan to take Kathy's life. Perhaps Mike was using again
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: and was seeking insurance money, but there was soon a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: twist in the case. The medical examiner estimated that Kathy's
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: life was taken around six hours before her body was found.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: That would be about one o'clock in the afternoon. Both
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: Mike and Tim claimed to be at work at the time.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: While investigators checked their alibis, a witness came forward. That
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: witness is four-year-old Tasha Odom. She emerged from her coma
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: and told investigators that she remembers a man entering the house.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: Tasha said the man had yellow hair. Neither Mike Odom
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: nor Tim Robinson had blonde hair. Unfortunately, the man's hair
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: color was all Tasha could remember. When the forensic tests
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: came back, it showed that the stains in Tim's car
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: were motor oil. The stains on Mike's shirt was paint. Furthermore,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: co-workers provided solid alibis for both Mike and Tim. Each
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: of them also passed polygraph tests. The two of them
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: were then ruled out, and investigators could move on to
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: the next person. That next person was not very hard
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: to find. Kathy had a sister, Shelly Martin. She was
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: married to Greg Markwart. They met thanks to Mike. Greg
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: and Mike had been close since they were both in
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: the drug scene. Like Kathy, Shelly was also 16 when
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: she met the man she would marry. Greg was 25
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: years old at the time, which should have been a
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: red flag already. Greg and Shelly married in 1983. Soon after,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: both Shelly and Kathy got addicted, just like Greg and Mike.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: Greg and Shelly were known to steal from her parents
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: for money. Greg had been raised by a wealthy aunt
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: and uncle, and the aunt repaid the Martins the money
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: and everyone agreed not to file charges. While Mike and
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Kathy had turned their lives around, Greg and Shelly did not.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: They were in and out of jail frequently. Shortly before
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Kathy's life was taken, she told a friend that Greg
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: and Shelly had been over recently, and that while Shelly
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: was in the other room with the baby, Greg had
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: made advances towards her, which she of course rejected. When questioned,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Greg would claim that on the night of the crime,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: at the times in which he was not with his wife,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: he was with a man named Hampton Robinson III. In
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: an unimportant but interesting note, Robinson was a friend of
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Charles Harrelson. Harrelson was the father of actor Woody Harrelson,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: and in 1982 was convicted of slaying a judge. In fact,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Robinson had testified against Harrelson at his trial. There was
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: ample evidence that Greg had been in the house. They
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: found his fingerprints and his hair throughout the crime scene.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: There was only one problem. As a family member who
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: had been in a house numerous times, this did not
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: prove a thing. Kathy's parents told investigators that they believed
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: Greg was responsible. Frankie said that two days after Kathy's slaying,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: he received a phone call in the middle of the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: night from the hospital where Tasha was being treated, telling
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: him that Shelly and Greg had come to visit. Frankie
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: told them to not allow admittance. First, because he was
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: suspicious of Greg, but also the fact that no one
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: had a reason to be there at three in the morning,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: especially them. Tasha's grandmother, Charlene Martin, who was at the hospital,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: recalled what happened. When Tasha saw Greg, she became very scared,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: and he was ordered to leave. Investigators asked Tasha if
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: it was her uncle Greg that she saw inside their
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: house with Kathy on the day of the attack. Unfortunately,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: she could not remember. Investigators tried many techniques, but due
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: to her head injury, she could not remember a thing.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: While Greg denied any involvement when talking to investigators, he
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: was surprisingly open about his attraction to Kathy, particularly to
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: one part of her body. Greg had a thing for
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: Kathy's stomach. This fixation was so obvious that Kathy had
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: even mentioned it to her friends. Interestingly enough, Kathy was
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: mainly stabbed in the stomach. At one point during the interview,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Greg asked to leave to put more money in a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: parking lot meter. He never came back. He also refused
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: a polygraph. Investigators decided to look into his alibi. Shelly
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: said that Greg drove her to school at 10.30 a.m.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: on the day of the crime and picked her up
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: again at 2.30 p.m. This four-hour window was more than
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: enough time for Greg to commit the crime. And as
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: you'll remember, the medical examiner determined that her life was
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: taken around 1 p.m. that day. Even though Kathy was assaulted,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: this crime occurred years before DNA was widely used in
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: cold case investigations. At the time, they were using serology. Basically,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: they were doing blood group typing. It was very difficult
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: to do, and you need a very large sample. You'd
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: still just get a blood type, which was not very conclusive.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: The blood type from the evidence collected from Kathy's body
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: was consistent with Greg Marquardt's blood type. He was type O,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: as well as the perpetrator. About 50% of the population
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: has the same blood type, so it did not tell
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: investigators much. Without more evidence, the case sadly went cold
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: for some time. For Frankie, it was especially difficult. Believing
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: that the man who took his daughter's life was married
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: to his other daughter. In 1998, a cold case team
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: was formed, and one of the first cases they looked
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: at was that of Kathy Odoms. By then, DNA testing
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: was dependable enough to generate a DNA profile from the
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: biological evidence in Kathy's case. Tests showed that Greg Marquardt
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: was part of the 2% of the general population who
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: could have been the perpetrator. Still not conclusive, but a
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: lot better than 50%. Greg quickly came up with an
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: explanation to investigators. He claimed that he and Kathy were
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: having a consensual affair. Greg said that he was with
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: her on the morning her life was taken. He insisted
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: that she was alive when he left. Greg was not
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: arrested at the time because, even though investigators did not
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: believe him, they were concerned that they did not have
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: enough for a conviction. They had to prove that he
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: was present when the crime was committed. Investigators reached out
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: to Katherine Long, who worked for Awkward Cellmark, a private
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: forensic lab in Dallas, Texas. Catherine came up with an
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: unusual strategy to try and solve Kathy's crime. She and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: her colleagues were strangling each other. Let me explain. They
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: wanted to determine if a perpetrator would deposit skin cells
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: in the act of choking a victim. They realized that
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: there was indeed a significant transfer of skin cells from
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: the perpetrator to the victim. Investigators needed to find something
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: in Kathy's evidence file that would have contained the perpetrator's
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: skin cells. They decided to do tests on the electrical
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: cord that was used to bind Kathy's hands. In an
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: incredible piece of luck, the cord had been stored in
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: a paper bag and not a plastic bag. The paper
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: bag provides breathability so that there is not any moisture
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: on the item inside, and it's going to stay dry.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: That will therefore prolong the DNA life. It will actually
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: preserve the DNA longer than if it were in a
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: plastic bag. The cord was covered in blood. Investigators swapped
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: the cord to obtain all the evidence they could. Testing
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: revealed two genetic profiles— that of Kathy Odom and that
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: of Greg Marquardt's. The only way Marquardt's DNA could be
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: on the cord was if, in fact, he was the perpetrator. Finally,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: on December 18, 2002, Greg Marquardt was arrested and charged
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: with taking Kathy's life. While in prison, Marquardt confessed to
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: a fellow inmate. He said that he was high on
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: heroin when he drove to Kathy's house that day. Once inside,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: he made advances that she rejected. To force her to comply,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: he struck Tasha repeatedly in the head. He then threatened
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: to take Sean's life as well. In order to save
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: her children's lives, she had to comply. With a knife
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: from the kitchen, Marquardt then cut the electrical cord from
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: the lamp and tied Kathy's hands. After he assaulted her,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: he took her life. Marquardt then cleaned up in the
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: bathroom and changed into Mike Odom's clothing. Little did he
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: know that advances in DNA technology would be used to
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: identify him as the perpetrator 15 years later. Six months
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: after his arrest, Greg's wealthy aunt passed away, leaving him
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of dollars and part ownership of her home.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: The Martins decided to file a suit against him, and
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: it tied up the estate, which prevented him from using
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: those funds towards his defense. In 2004, Greg Marquardt pled guilty,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: and he was convicted of all the charges against him.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: In July of the same year, he was sentenced to
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: 45 years in prison. He passed away of liver disease
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: after serving four years of his sentence in 2008. He
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: was 56 years old. Sergeant Roger Wedsworth was quoted as saying,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Shelley and her parents
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: lost contact after the crime. She took Marquardt's side while
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: they believed he was responsible. It was said that for
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: a long time, Shelley continued to support Marquardt and believed
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: in his innocence. A few years after the crime, the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: Martins moved to Oklahoma. A few years after that, it
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: seemed that Shelly made up with her parents, and she
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: too moved to Oklahoma to be near her parents. Kathy's father, Frankie, said,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: It does not bring back Kathy. I will always remember her,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: the house she put together, and the things we did.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: It is always tough to lose a child. Raina Lynn
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: Rison was born on May 6, 1976, in La Porte, Indiana.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: She lived with her parents, Ben and Karen Rison. She
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: had an older sister, Lori, and a younger sister, Wendy.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: In 1993, 16-year-old Raina was described as a good student
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: and aspired to a career as a veterinarian because of
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: her deep compassion for animals. Other than being a sophomore
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: at La Porte High School, Raina worked three jobs as well.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: She worked at the animal hospital where she walked dogs
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: and cleaned kettles. On Friday, March 26, 1993, Raina was
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: tasked with closing the animal hospital after a short shift
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: from 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. Raina and her ex-boyfriend,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: Matt Elser, were planning to spend the evening together, and
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: she could not wait to see him again. They had
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: recently broken up. and the date was a step towards
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: possibly getting back together. Like Raina, Matt came from a good,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: upstanding family and was regarded as a decent young man.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: In short, he was the kind of guy any parent
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: would be happy to have their daughter date. Matt arrived
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: at the animal hospital at 6 p.m. to pick up Raina.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: He got out of his car after waiting a while
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: and headed to the front door, where he found that
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: all of the lights were off and the door was closed.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Matt saw that Raina's car was not in the parking lot,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: so he drove to her home to see if she
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: was there. Raina's father, Ben, told Matt that she had
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: not returned home from work. They hadn't seen her since
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: she left home to go to the animal hospital for
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: her shift. Her family assumed she was out on the
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: date with Matt, but now they were worried. It was
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: very unlike Raina to not tell her family where exactly
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: she was. Raina's parents, her younger sister Wendy, and Matt,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: all waited. in the house for Raina to come home.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: When Raina had still not shown up by 10.30 p.m.,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: her family went to the police station to report her
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: as missing. The police could only register a missing persons
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: report after waiting for 24 hours. Ben gave them a
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: photo of Raina and asked them to be on the
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: lookout either way since it was so unlike Raina. Her
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: family then started to look for her. They tried to
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: get in touch with her acquaintances, but no one knew
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: where she could be. They also handed out missing persons
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: flyers in the area, hoping someone would come forward with
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: valuable information. When the police got involved, they made a
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: public appeal for any information that led to Raina's whereabouts. Immediately,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: a handful of eyewitnesses came forward, saying that just before
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: 6 p.m., they saw a sedan parked outside the animal
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: hospital where Raina worked. Multiple eyewitnesses said they saw two
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: men in the sedan along with Raina. It appeared that
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: Raina was arguing with the men. The witnesses ignored it
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: at first, since they assumed it was just a couple
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: having an argument. Matt Elser was questioned by investigators. He
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: stuck to his story about waiting for Raina and discovering
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: that she was not at the animal hospital. The police
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: learned that Matt had wanted to take a break from
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: the relationship. They had taken a break, but recently gotten
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: back together. Their date that night was supposed to be
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: really special, and they were both looking forward to it.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: Matt knew something serious had to have happened for Raina
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: to not show up. Raina's parents assured the authorities that
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: Matt was a good and trustworthy young man. They also
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: pointed out that his car was not the one witnesses saw,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: clearing him of any wrongdoing. Raina's car was discovered the
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: night after she disappeared, not far from the animal hospital.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: The car's hood was raised and gave the impression that
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: she may have had car trouble. Officers were able to
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: get her car started easily with her keys that were
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: still in the ignition when they arrived. It appeared as
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: if the car breakdown was staged. Furthermore, officers saw that
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: Raina's handbag was still in her car, which contained her
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: purse and credit cards. All of her money was also
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: still in the car, which meant this was definitely not
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: a robbery. A man's ring was found in Raina's glove compartment.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: It was shown to Matt Elser. Matt said that it
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: was not his ring. He identified the man's ring as
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: belonging to Jason Tibbs. Jason was Raina's ex-boyfriend. They dated
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: back in the seventh grade and broke up after being
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: together for around eight months. He had a criminal history
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: and had dropped out of school. Police decided to question
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: 16-year-old Jason Tibbs. He admitted that the ring in question
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: was really his and inquired as to where it had
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: been found. When officers informed him it had been discovered
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: in Raina's car, he claimed that they were still friends
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: and he had done some work on the car and
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: must have forgotten his ring in the glove compartment. Jason
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: said that he had taken off his ring to protect
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: it from grime and grease while working on the car.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: Locals vouched for Jason and said that he was an
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: excellent mechanic. It seemed plausible that Raina had contacted him
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: if she was having car trouble. Investigators asked him where
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: he was on the night that she disappeared. Jason claimed
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: that he had been playing a game of fox hunting.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: Fox hunting is a game of hide-and-seek, but played in cars.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: Friends share their locations over wireless radios and try to
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: hunt each other down. His friends confirmed they'd been playing
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: fox hunting that evening. but no one had actually seen Jason.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Raina's father confirmed that Raina and Jason were friends, so
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: the ring seemed to be a dead end. Raina's case
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: started to go cold until the police made a discovery.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: Matt's letterman jacket was found by a LaPorte sheriff's deputy.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: Raina had last been seen with the jacket. Matt gave
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: it to Raina to wear. It signified that the two
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: of them were together. The jacket was found about six
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: or seven miles away from where her car was found.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: The jacket had been placed there after the police's initial search. Unfortunately,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: the jacket yielded no further clues or evidence. On April 26, 1993,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: a month after Raina was last seen, a fisherman and
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: his teenage daughter were at a pond off Range Road,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: north of La Porte, Indiana. The daughter was taking a
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: stroll when she saw a pair of human legs in
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: the water. She yelled for her father to come take
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: a look. He went closer and determined that it was
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: a female body in the water. Two logs were placed
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: on top of her body. When police arrived at the scene,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: they noted that the unknown woman wore the same clothes
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: that Raina was last seen wearing before she disappeared. Despite
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: the body's advanced state of decomposition, it was determined that
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: she was Raina Rison. This was no longer a missing
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: persons case. No obvious wounds or signs of significant trauma
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: were found on her body. Later, during the autopsy, it
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: was concluded that Raina had been strangled. With the discovery,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: investigators went back to Jason Tibbs to see if he
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: knew anything. He told them about Ray McCarty, Ray was
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: married to Raina's older sister, Lori Rison. Ray had assaulted
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: and impregnated Raina when she was 11 and had been
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: imprisoned for the crime. His probation ended only two months
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: before Raina went missing. You'd think Lori Rison would have
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: divorced Ray for what he did, but no, they were
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: still married. He clearly had a motive and was dangerous
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: with a past criminal record targeted against Raina. Investigators visited
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: Ray and Lori's house. The couple told investigators that neither
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: of them saw Raina on the day she disappeared. Ray
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: stated that he was busy shooting pigeons on a friend's
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: farm that night. The detectives called a friend, and he
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: confirmed that Ray was indeed with him that night. Something
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: didn't feel right to investigators, so they went to talk
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: with Ray again. Ray talked to them alone and told
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: them that he had seen Raina on the night she vanished.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: He told them that he was house hunting on March 26, 1993.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: At about 5.40 p.m., he was gazing out the window
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: of a house when he saw the animal hospital. He
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: claimed he had just briefly seen Raina at the parking
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  Speaker 3: lot of the animal hospital and asked if she knew
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  Speaker 3: where Lori was. He then left and picked up a
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  Speaker 3: female hitchhiker that night. Ray claimed the hitchhiker was the
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  Speaker 3: reason why he initially did not want to admit to
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  Speaker 3: having seen her. She did not fully trust him after
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  Speaker 3: what he did to her sister. Ray McCarty became the
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  Speaker 3: main suspect at this point, but there was no physical
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  Speaker 3: evidence connecting him to the crime, and the case went cold. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: the case remained cold for almost 18 months. It was
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  Speaker 3: then that Indiana State Police pulled over a van driven
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  Speaker 3: by Larry Hall. Hall would travel across the Midwest for
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  Speaker 3: Civil War and the Independence War reenactments. His van resembled
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  Speaker 3: one used in an attempted kidnapping. The police examined the
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  Speaker 3: van and discovered several items related to Raina's case. In
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  Speaker 3: his van, he had newspaper clippings of Raina and a
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  Speaker 3: prescription bottle with the name R. Rison on it. Larry
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  Speaker 3: claimed he was the one that abducted and slayed Raina.
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  Speaker 3: He was then arrested. Detectives investigated his movements on the
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  Speaker 3: night of her disappearance and discovered that he was in
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  Speaker 3: Kentucky and the prescription bottle was a fake. Hall had
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  Speaker 3: falsely confessed to abducting and slaying around 50 other women.
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  Speaker 3: He seemed like the type of person who would insert
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  Speaker 3: himself into any investigation and confess. Larry Hall was subsequently
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  Speaker 3: ruled out as a suspect in Raina's case. He was
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  Speaker 3: not completely innocent, though. He was found guilty of taking
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  Speaker 3: 15-year-old Jessica Roach's life. I'll go over the case briefly
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the video for those interested. As
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  Speaker 3: for Rainer's case, it remained cold until 1998. Investigators did
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  Speaker 3: not know what else they could do and looked at
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  Speaker 3: their initial suspects again. Matt Elser, Jason Tibbs, and Ray McCarty.
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  Speaker 3: Matt's alibi was solid, and investigators never really considered him
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  Speaker 3: a serious suspect. Jason's story of fox hunting wasn't that
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  Speaker 3: solid because no one actually saw him, but it seemed
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  Speaker 3: he was on good terms with Raina. Ray, on the
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  Speaker 3: other hand, lied about his alibi at first, and he
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  Speaker 3: was most definitely a horrible person, so investigators decided to
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  Speaker 3: focus on him. They got a warrant to search Ray's property.
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  Speaker 3: Inside his house, investigators found two handguns and a stun gun.
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  Speaker 3: They also discovered blood in his car's trunk, but were
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  Speaker 3: unable to determine its source. Ray McCarty was arrested in
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  Speaker 3: May 1998. He waited in jail for 15 months while
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  Speaker 3: the police continued to build their case against him. While
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  Speaker 3: Ray was in jail, a new prosecutor had been assigned.
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  Speaker 3: He was a hunter, and it was concluded that the
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  Speaker 3: blood belonged to a deer. The prosecutor felt that there
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  Speaker 3: was not enough evidence linking him to the crime, and
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: they were forced to let him go again. He was
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  Speaker 3: released after a year in jail. For the next nine years,
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  Speaker 3: the case would once again be classified as a cold case, unfortunately. Then,
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  Speaker 3: in 2008, police got a lead that would blow this
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  Speaker 3: case wide open. They received a letter from an inmate
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  Speaker 3: serving a 44-year sentence. His name is Ricky Hammonds. He
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  Speaker 3: requested to talk with investigators. Ricky was in prison because
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  Speaker 3: he took his roommate's life. Ricky said he decided to
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  Speaker 3: come forward after thinking about his niece. He said he
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  Speaker 3: would want someone to come forward if anything had happened
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  Speaker 3: to her. This is everything he had to say. Back
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  Speaker 3: in 1993, when he was 14 years old, he was
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  Speaker 3: in the roof of a barn next to his parents'
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  Speaker 3: house smoking marijuana. He heard a car drive in the barn.
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  Speaker 3: Ricky saw his sister's boyfriend, Eric Feldman, and Jason Tibbs.
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  Speaker 3: They opened the trunk of his sister's sedan, and Ricky
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  Speaker 3: then saw a body covered by a blanket. Ricky could
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  Speaker 3: still make out the upper half of the victim. It
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  Speaker 3: was a female wearing a Leatherman jacket. He did not
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  Speaker 3: know it was Raina, but a couple of days later,
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  Speaker 3: when Raina's face appeared in the media, he realized who
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  Speaker 3: it was. Ricky said that he was scared to come
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  Speaker 3: forward back in 1993 because he was worried he would
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  Speaker 3: get into trouble for smoking marijuana. The police tracked Eric
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  Speaker 3: Fieldman down in South Carolina. He was visibly nervous. He
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  Speaker 3: did not want to speak to them and refused all interviews.
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  Speaker 3: Investigators then told him he will face no consequences if
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  Speaker 3: he can tell them exactly what happened with Raina. He
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  Speaker 3: accepted the deal and told them everything. Eric said that
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  Speaker 3: he and Jason were cruising in his girlfriend's sedan when
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  Speaker 3: they drove past the animal hospital on March 26, 1993.
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  Speaker 3: Jason wanted to get Raina to leave Matt and take
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  Speaker 3: him back. When she exited the animal hospital, he called
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  Speaker 3: her over to the car. She clearly did not want
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  Speaker 3: to talk to him. Before she could scream, he pushed
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  Speaker 3: her into the car and told Eric to drive away quickly.
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  Speaker 3: A couple minutes later, Eric stopped the car and Raina
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  Speaker 3: tried to run away. Jason followed her and said, If
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  Speaker 3: I can't have you, no one can. He then strangled
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  Speaker 3: her until she stopped breathing. Jason and Eric loaded Raina's
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  Speaker 3: body in the trunk and drove to the barn. That
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: is where Ricky saw them. After much deliberation, Eric and
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  Speaker 3: Jason then decided to place Raina's body in the pond
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  Speaker 3: and weigh her down with logs. Eric drove Jason back
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  Speaker 3: to the clinic to pick up Raina's car. Jason abandoned
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  Speaker 3: the car. He also discarded Matt's jacket. In August 2013,
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  Speaker 3: 38-year-old Jason Tibbs was arrested and charged with taking Raina
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  Speaker 3: Rison's life. Twenty years had passed since Raina's life was ended.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: His trial started in late 2013. His defense argued that
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  Speaker 3: Rickey was not a trustworthy witness since he was a
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  Speaker 3: high school student at the time and because he waited
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  Speaker 3: 15 years to come forward with the truth. In order
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: to ensure that Eric Freeman testified truthfully in the trial,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: he was granted immunity from prosecution. After a lengthy trial
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: that lasted until December 2014, Jason Tibbs was found guilty.
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  Speaker 3: He was sentenced to 40 years in prison with 20
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  Speaker 3: years served. Outside the courtroom, Raina's family cried. They hugged
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  Speaker 3: each other and the prosecutor. The Rison family got some
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  Speaker 3: form of justice, but the daughter they'd lost in a
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  Speaker 3: crime of passion would never come back. Tibbs still claims
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  Speaker 3: that he is innocent and that Ray McCarty is responsible
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  Speaker 3: for what happened to Raina. Tibbs made numerous appeals to
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  Speaker 3: the Indiana Supreme Court after being shot down by the
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: state's appellate court. On September 8, 2016, the Indiana Court
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  Speaker 3: of Appeals ruled against a request for a new trial
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  Speaker 3: by Jason Tibbs. As recently as 2018, his lawyers publicly
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  Speaker 3: stated that they are still fighting for his innocence. Raina
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  Speaker 3: was 16 years old and had her whole life ahead
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  Speaker 3: of her. She was finally happy again when she and
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  Speaker 3: Matt got back together. Unfortunately, it seems that she was
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: surrounded by terrible people that let her down. As promised,
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  Speaker 3: I'll go over some of the details of Jessica Roach's case.
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  Speaker 3: Fifteen-year-old Jessica lived in Georgetown, Illinois in 1993. She had
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  Speaker 3: dreams of one day being a pilot. On September 20, 1993...
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  Speaker 3: Jessica Roach went outside to ride her new bicycle. Tragedy
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: struck when Jessica's sister found the bike lying on the road,
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  Speaker 3: but Jessica was nowhere to be found. Her sister alerted
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: their father, who contacted the police, but Jessica would never
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: be seen alive again. Six weeks after she went missing,
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  Speaker 3: her remains were discovered in Perrysville, Indiana, which is close
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: to the state's border. Her body was found by a
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: farmer who made the discovery while using his combine. Jessica's
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: body showed signs of having been there for some time.
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  Speaker 3: Due to the state of her remains, it was difficult
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  Speaker 3: for investigators to learn more about when, how, or where
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: she lost her life. Police found suspect Larry Hall about
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: a year later when he began trailing a pair of girls.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: The girls reported him to the police and provided investigators
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  Speaker 3: with Hall's license plate number. When he was brought in
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  Speaker 3: for police questioning and shown a photo of Jessica, Hall
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  Speaker 3: apparently flinched and covered his face before denying that he'd
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: ever seen her. A confession eventually did trickle out, with
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: Hall telling police that he tied her up but couldn't
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  Speaker 3: remember what he used. He then said that he removed
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  Speaker 3: her clothing, assaulted her, and strangled her against a tree
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  Speaker 3: with his belt. All also provided vague descriptions of other
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  Speaker 3: young girls he'd abused. I picked up several girls in
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  Speaker 3: other areas, but I can't remember which ones I hurt,
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  Speaker 3: he told police. Investigators determined that he was falsely confessing
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  Speaker 3: to a lot of crimes, but that he did indeed
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  Speaker 3: take Jessica's life. All was given a life sentence with
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: no possibility of parole, He is currently incarcerated at a
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  Speaker 3: medium-security prison in North Carolina. Jessica Roach's loved ones held
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  Speaker 3: benefits in past years in her memory, and in 2015,
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  Speaker 3: they created a scholarship in her name.