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It's another episode of the Christian we've podcast.
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and enjoy this episode. Hello and welcome to another
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Today's guest is a podcast all the way from Regina and
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Saskatchewan in Canada. His name is Corey, Johnston.
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Welcome to the show. How's it going?
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Pretty good. Thanks for having me.
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Thank you. Thank you for agreeing to be on
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the show. I'll just say before we get
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started. I don't know if viewers would
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have heard this but this was a zoom recording, right?
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This is a zoom recording and that is the first time.
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I don't know if you heard that as well.
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There was like a little voice that just went.
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The recording is now recording or something.
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And yeah, that's new. They've added that that's really
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useful, I guess. But yeah, that creep me out.
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Maybe you guys at home, heard that if so I guess that's a
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fixture now at the beginning of podcasts, but we'll leave it in.
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It's fun. Whatever.
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I don't know. Sure.
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Yeah. Then you know, the recording has
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started. I know.
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So that's officially good. Well, I did.
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It is. Honey, just talk about that real
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quick. I always have these technical
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issues and always every once in a while will happen.
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And I happened. Not last time I did a podcast, I
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was having issues in my camera, blah blah, blah.
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But one of the things that I noticed is that I sort of
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obviously kept unplugging and plugging in my external camera,
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right? And that apparently stopped my
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recording. So, the audio recording that
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it's for those who don't know. I do a zoom recording which is
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what you guys. If you're watching or listening
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to the podcast on YouTube, see but for everyone else that
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listen to the podcast, they won't know that.
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And basically the audio version gets recorded for a separate
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program called mix pad and I mix it all there.
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So to be fed that the the quality there is much better
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than it is on Zoom but only by a little bit, still the same stuff
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is just like control the levels a little bit better on the audio
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version, right? But you know, podcast right
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eyes, these your deodorant sounds a lot like what I do,
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right? And then last time that happened
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was having the the issues with the camera, pulled out the the
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USB and then after the recording.
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So was afterwards, you finish? And I just looked at the audio
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and it only got in like 20 minutes from an hour-and-a-half
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podcast, and I always had this that Panic bit, but it's lucky
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because I've obviously recorded on two separate channels, but if
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you already recording one, I mean, this is just an, if I
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haven't said this on the podcast before, I'll say it again.
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For anyone who's a Aster. Aspiring podcast.
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Always have a backup at least one backup, guess one.
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Yeah, even if it's just sitting in the background, just make
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sure your computer can handle it to programs.
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That's all you need. And like you said, you offered
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before, we even started to potentially record the Audio.
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I used to accept that now, because I've got two different
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options. It's like I don't think it's
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necessary but sometimes I don't know if the audio is
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particularly choppy or those issues, I don't know.
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Sometimes I do accept it and just as a kind of a third back.
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Up? Yeah, I don't know.
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Anyway, yeah, best of all you, that sure.
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So speaking of podcasting you are the host and this is at the
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time of writing, so I'll just say this.
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Now, I always do my research on my guests way ahead of time and
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I believe, we might have scheduled this onus a about two
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months ago. So things might change.
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Yeah, things might have changed in that time, but the last sort
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of moment that I did my research on you, I found that you were
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doing four different podcasts. Yeah.
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So let's just go through this the from many people's strengths
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podcast. Yeah.
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The skeptic e podcast. Yeah.
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Mind of a skeptical, leftist podcast.
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And finally, the feminist Family podcast is that right?
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Yes, that's right. So, well, my first question is
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how how how the Third The last one, the feminist family.
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We haven't recorded in a long time.
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So I guess you could say that one has kind of fallen off, but
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I still do the other three podcasts and it's a lot of work.
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Like you got to just dedicate like a bunch of time to it, so I
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guess I'm lucky that I have a job that I work a lot of hours
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for seven days and then I have a week off.
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So then on my week off, I still do Like gig work like I do
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doordash or Uber and stuff like that.
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But I don't because I make enough money on my week that I
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work. I can dedicate a lot of time to
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podcast work. What do you do for a living?
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I'm only asking. Well I think I work in the oil
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field in Saskatchewan. It's at a Wastewater disposal
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plan. It's not my favorite thing, but
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the pay is good and Yeah, so that's about it is not an oil
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rig of I misunderstood what exactly is your position and
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what do you do like? Well, I personally work at
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what's called a Wastewater disposal facilities.
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Water disposal facility. Okay, okay.
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I think I'm getting late. So I got oil from Wells because
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the oil field when oil is produced there's like various
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ways of drilling and fracturing, the ground underneath.
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And what they do is they use Freshwater saltwater for some of
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these processes and then that water is contaminated.
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So they can't use it for anything else after that.
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So what they have to do is they have to bring it to us to
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dispose of it lately. We have a centrifuge so we
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actually bring in like drilling mud, the mud that comes up when
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they actually drill the hole and we put it through our centrifuge
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and we try to extract water from it and Separate solids from it
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so that we can to Z takes the solids, to the landfill and pump
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the water down to in our disposal.
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Well, okay, coo, coo coo. And, and what exactly is your
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specific position? They're like, how do you
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influence the work or what do you manage?
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I do it all. I'm a process map operator.
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Like okay, I work by myself for 12 hours making decisions on
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tank levels where I need to do this and that You know various
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process to try and get as much water out of the waste as I can
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so that it can dispose of it properly and figure out what
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else needs to be done. So what would you say?
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Cut out the best and worst things about that position?
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Working alone. It's it's great because I'm in
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control of everything that's going on.
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I know exactly what's happening. Nobody can turn anything on
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without me knowing it, you know. But also it's a lot of work
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because you're on your own. So you're doing like the job of
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two or three people by yourself. It is that by Design or is that
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one of those situation because I've been in up watching Abs
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before where it's like, this job is supposed to be done by five
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people, but here we are two people, doing it every week.
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Is it like that or is it a bit more?
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Like, you know, just, I don't know.
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You need a certain level of expertise to do it and it's
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difficult to find someone or like it's, it's just cuz it
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costs money to hire people. I always annoys me when yeah,
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like I started this job. Eight years ago, almost nine
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years ago with zero knowledge in the oil field, so anybody can
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come and do it. But yeah, it bugs me.
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Like, I remember, years ago, I used to work in a supermarket,
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right? And that's where I got the whole
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two and five thing from that's where that comes from.
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So like we were supposed to have say, a team of five people
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working at any one time. Obviously, there were times when
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it was a bit, quieter inevitably, right.
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But on a standard day, that's what you were supposed to have
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now. I noticed the pattern, I only
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worked there for about three years but I noticed the pattern
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and what would happen is obviously at times like
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Christmas and Easter. You employ more staff, temporary
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stuff, I get that, right. But on a standard week they say
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middle of winter or middle of summer.
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You would you get busy day still and inevitably people don't turn
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up for work, whatever. But they were times when people
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would leave like full-time member of Staff would leave and
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they just wouldn't replace that person.
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Yeah, yeah, six to eight months and then what I noticed is they
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were basically keep letting people go.
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Until it got so desperate that you had to employ.
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People know this is things are just not getting done, right,
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right? And I stand kind of trying to
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save that cut costs, but how much if you are a big business
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specially like a supermarket, right?
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How much are you really losing on staff?
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Considering the fact that you pay the minimum wage versus how
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much you're charging, how much you make per year per week, you
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know what I mean? Like, it's sounds like
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cheapskate. Me and you, it's the nature of
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the businesses, right? Like they have to, they have to
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maximize their profits. So every time they get a chance
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to reduce costs, which includes not replacing employees, then
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they absolutely have to just hold off as long as they
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absolutely can. That's crazy.
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All right, well, let's bring it back to your podcast.
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Now, like I said, okay, fair enough, you're not doing, you're
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not doing the final one, the feminist one, but you've got a
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lot of different podcasts here in my show notes, I kind of had
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it down as that you were quite, sort of politically minded
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person. So with every one of these
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podcasts, what kind of topics do you tend to discuss or and
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what's kind of the purpose of each one?
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I talked us through them and what you're trying to achieve.
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Well, okay, so my show that I consider my show is the mind of
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a skeptical leftist and that I came out of excuse me.
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I came out of like, the skeptical movement online, which
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was, which was basically a bunch of people who kind of wanted to
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promote critical thinking and skepticism towards scientific
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claims and various things. I don't know.
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There's it is a kind of a movement still, but during the
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early 2016, When Donald Trump was in office, a lot of the
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American side I know took to being anti social justice types.
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So so then you had like, a kind of a division within the
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community, but the skeptical ideology is that everything
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should be based on evidence or you shouldn't believe it and
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sometimes the evidence can be sketchy or we can find flaws
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with it. But the best evidence available
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is where we base our beliefs And so then in the social justice
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side of things, there were people on one side who were hey,
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we don't believe the evidence. So you know, racism isn't the
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systemic thing that we don't believe in patriarchy and all
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that and then on the other side, there's the people who became
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during during termed, like the, the regressive left, or whatever
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you want to call us. Like, so, Then you know, I'm
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being a leftist because I identify as a narco communist
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being on the left politically and being skeptical nature, who
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wants to believe in things will on the best evidence that is
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where the title comes from. Its the mind of a skeptical left
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is because this is kind of a random show where I cover random
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things, but they always have to do.
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With scientific skepticism and political left wing stuff, and
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social justice CD. That was a long round about
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wait, and I can't do you find yourself kind of getting
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involved? When you put stuff out, do you
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find a lot of like backlash or do you just sort of find
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yourself being drawn into a lot of controversy, like, took us a
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little bit to us a little bit about that?
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Well, you would think actually because the topics I cover the
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way that I cover them, often are very alike, one-sided.
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Like, I see things from a certain perspective and I'm not
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being fair to right-wingers, I'm glad I don't even pretend that
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I'm trying. Right?
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So so you would almost expect more pushback but it's really
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rare that I get any kind of push back, maybe just because I'm
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still a relatively small podcast and channel.
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But also maybe it's just because I'm a white dude who works in
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the oil field. I'm not some teenage kid with
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purple hair that they can pick on.
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You know and say oh well you're just too young to have good
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ideas. No, I'm I'm a 44 year-old man,
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who's an, who's been doing this for a long time.
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So I've always been very neutral when it comes to politics.
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I said, get all because I kind of see positives and negatives
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on both sides, right? So I always have a very
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interested you I always have a sort of like I don't really like
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to get involved in politics because I just I'm not really
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interested in debating and to be honest no party really
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represents me. That's why I I've never voted
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for instance, but what I will say is that I do tend to.
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If I ever do talk about politics, I like to talk to open
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minded people and I found open minded people on both sides.
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I do find. There's a lot of people that are
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quite close minded and just in my opinion just like to argue
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rather than this. If you look, if you look at what
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a debate is, when you break it down, it's two people.
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If they're having a proper debate to You have opposing
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views. Either trying to convince each
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other or maybe try to change each other's views or maybe come
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to some sort of compromise, I suppose.
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It depends on the goals. Yeah, depends on this on this,
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the platform of the debate to write like, right?
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If you're going to Nature the audience, right?
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Like if you have an audience you don't want to.
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You're not worried about your opponent so much as did.
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I make a point that the audience can agree with or disagree with,
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right? But when you sail, obviously,
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you're trying to challenge, right?
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Wing people and you, On a kind of.
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Yeah. Argue your point strong and you
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have your strong beliefs. But do you ever kind of do sit
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down and take their views into account?
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Do you kind of sit there and acknowledge it and you open
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minded to it? Or are you kind of like just
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really, really really against it.
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You're not even willing but isn't that?
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Where do you sit? It depends what you mean by open
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minded to write. Like I mean, I was in my early
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30s while late 20s early 30s. I was a conservative, that's
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interesting. Okay, so the reason That I
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reject conservatism now is because I because of the staunch
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anti-climate change views that I encountered at the time and that
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got me down the road of realizing that.
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So many of these things that conservatives believed weren't
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based on evidence. They were based on some other
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thing. Smell.
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They suggested. No, no, you raised a really good
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point. I think the interesting aspect
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to this is the firstly, the refreshing honesty like you say.
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Yeah. I used to be this then I flip to
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the other side, right? And a lot of the people that are
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very high prolific, like I've, you know, I've said this in the
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past but people like say Donald Trump have flipped and flopped
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between both not many people know this.
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But yeah, that's happened before and for some mostly it's Tied to
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some sort of business interest and stuff like that for
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yourself. Climate change was the deciding
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factor in an obviously, over time things change.
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And I think that's a very important point to make as well.
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You know, there's a lot of people I've seen over the years,
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whose political leanings change in accordance with their own
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personal lives because it's one thing to consider voting based
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on, you know how you want Society to be at large, I
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understand. But then there's also the
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element of how it affects Hugh on a low level.
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So like, for example in the UK we have Labour and conservative,
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right? Labor is more or less left wing.
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And conservatives is pretty much right when, right?
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And then you have parties that are in the middle and blah,
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blah, blah. It's been pretty much a similar
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to what you guys have. Yeah.
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But we also have that local level and a nationwide level.
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So, for example, the the borrow that I grew up in the place that
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I grew up in was conservative Was, it was right wing, right?
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But they did a really good job locally, right?
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They, you know, they just did an excellent job politically back
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then, I guess I was more left. So I was kind of like, you know,
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just disagree with them but then I would look at the fact that
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they did such a good sort of job in my local area.
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And I was like, oh, this is interesting, how you can sort of
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support them in one area, but not in the other because
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obviously Nationwide, I disagreed with how they were
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running things and stuff and right, right eventually.
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Me to the point where now I'm I sit in the middle because I've
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seen I've seen what labor did I've seen what conservatives
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have done and now I'm like none of you people represent.
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Yeah, yeah. But it's interesting how that
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that divided as far as you know, how you're voting changes
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according to your personal life, how the politics affect you and
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your personal life, and where you are in a state, you're in a
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city town, you live in versus a nationwide level, I feel like
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And I'm going out on a limb here, but I reckon that a lot of
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people when they're voting, they're more thinking about how
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affect them on a day-to-day basis versus, you know, voting
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to just remove someone out of us.
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I mean, if you do, obviously, we take Trump most recently.
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I think they're awesome. Yeah, a lot more people were
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inclined to go and vote because they just felt.
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Okay, this person is not doing a good job running.
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A country is interesting, even for the conservative.
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Oh, so not what conservatives Republicans.
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There were many people. In that party, the distance
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themselves from Trump and we said we've had similar things
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happen here in the UK where there's like a problem lack of
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confidence in the leader and stuff and it makes sense, you
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know what I mean? Because your heart even if you
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are in a political party and you're sort of saying, I support
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this, I support these people. You know, necessarily going to
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agree with everything biggest put out, you know, the me know.
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That's right. Yeah.
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Yeah. It's a I mean for us the I guess
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you. I could say the father of this
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left party that in Canada is the NDP.
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We have a green party, but some of their policies aren't as far
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left there, more Centrist or conservative with environmental
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leanings, right? But The NDP like some of their
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positions are really like, they're very close to the
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liberal party which is our, I guess you could say, are
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Centrist party. And so those leanings, I'm often
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disagreeing with the party that I would tend to vote for more
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often, right? And, I mean in Canada, right
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now, like we're our culture follows the culture of the
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United. Knighted states.
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So closely that often when I'm voting, I'm just voting out of
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the idea of harm reduction like because I just want to make sure
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that I'm, you know, doing the best I can for the people that
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will be harmed. Yeah, forgive me.
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So I actually forgot for a second that you from Canada and
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this was something else, it's a ski.
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But yeah, I did because when I talk about politics, you know,
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the first thing that comes to mind is US UK, but I wanted to
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ask you about this. Yeah, you're from Canada.
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You live in Canada and they say, your far left.
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How would you say? I mean, how much do you know
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about UK and US politics? Just just off the bat light or
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should not. I followed the United States
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politics, very closely stuff but you Ki guess you could say, I
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know a little bit like, um, okay.
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Well before I ask you about the differences in the command
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similarities and stuff. What's your reasoning for
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following us politics? Because I've had other Canadian
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podcasters all Canadian. Guest on the show and they've
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sort of said, similar things like yeah, I follow us politics
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and stuff but but why, you know what I mean?
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Like, I understand I can theorize give it like okay.
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Well, you know us and Canada does a lot of training together,
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its neighbors. You know, there's going to be
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reasons, but why do you choose to follow us politics?
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I follow it because our culture mirrors.
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There's so closely. And, and when I see like a
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Donald Trump movement or a mega movement, I I get concerned
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because I know that something similar is going to try
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happening here very shortly. So, like, I can't even remember
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the guys name right now. The, the current leader of our
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conservative party. He actually like came up with
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like this, the slogan about bringing Canada back to
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Canadians, or something like that.
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It's like, it's very Maga, but Canadian eyes, right?
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It's interesting. It known on the side, they like,
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I think it makes sense because obviously, even here in the UK,
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where, you know, we're heavily influenced by American culture
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and other cultures around the world too.
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But like, you know, with certain things we are heavily influence.
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Like, for example, suing culture, you know, that's always
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been a very American thing but even here, you know, it's become
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more prevalent. I see a bit more of it and
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probably the last 20, 30 years than you did, especially if
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somebody says something bad about you.
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Hey, Yeah, I mean, for us, it's, I think it's more, we're more
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concerned with slander and libel, and stuff like that.
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We're more involved with that. And and for example, UK press
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here, because we've got Free Press, they'll print anything
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they want. And I've said this on the show
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before but they'll print anything they want which I think
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is a good thing. They should have the freedom,
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freedom of speech to print what they want.
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Even if it is bad, you know, I don't believe in censorship,
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personally, I've always been against, I think you should
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whatever you say you should be able to say it, you know what I
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mean? And I think it's up.
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The the public to choose whether or not they support you and what
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the consensus, I always think as a society, we should always come
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to a consensus of what we agree with what degree wedge, an enemy
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and come together on on. Absolutely.
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It's big. It's like this.
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There might be some nuances to that kind of discussion because
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the power behind media right now is so one-sided, right?
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Like it's very the rich in the powerful control.
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What we see and hear this is why, I mean, this is one of the
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reasons as well, why don't? Don't sort of fit left or right
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politically and white because yeah, and UK.
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It's very well known that many of the major news outlets are
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heavily biased. I mean, you can tell, by the
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way, they write, who they support and and sometimes don't
24:48
even come out and say it, like, it's hilarious.
24:50
I remember years ago the sun, which is a tabloid newspaper
24:53
here in the UK obviously is very famously run by horses then the
24:58
famous Australian media. Mogul Got His Name Escapes me
25:02
but he's basically got business interests.
25:04
Around the world in America. He owns like many, many
25:09
companies and news outlets and stuff like Murdock Murdock
25:12
Rupert Murdoch. That's the one.
25:13
Yeah. So he's got business search
25:14
interests around the world. Got a heavy kind of that heat,
25:18
for instance, if someone's in power in like, say the UK,
25:22
right? He'll have heavy influence and
25:23
he can affect right. Your political standing so you
25:27
can affect, you know, how? Well your campaign goes right.
25:30
Which is ridiculous. He shouldn't be like that.
25:32
It's like that. That's how I know.
25:34
What works, right? Yeah, exactly.
25:36
It's interesting to me, because I remember the Sun for many
25:40
years was Labor. They supported labor and they
25:43
were very like, kind of odd, because a lot of the papers that
25:46
are neutral, you know, you can tell maybe they got a bit of a
25:48
left to right, and then you can, but they don't come out and say,
25:51
right done was like, we support labor, we support.
25:54
And I remember somewhere in the, maybe the 2010s, they had a bit
25:58
of a falling out, I guess for the Labour party.
26:00
And, and so, they printed that though, we support conservative
26:03
now Like we are conservative paper and it's like it just I
26:08
don't know. That kind of fascinated me like
26:09
just how that happens. And it's like postmedia here.
26:15
There used to be like local post media Outlets across Canada.
26:22
But then they got bought out. Well, they weren't postmedia,
26:25
they were independent, but they like referred to themselves as
26:28
the leader poster this post, or national post or whatever.
26:33
But then they all got bought out and they all got the same
26:37
direction that they're supposed to do.
26:39
They're supposed to be more conservative leaning, and that's
26:42
just the direction that the leaders of the company want them
26:45
to go. So that's what the kind of
26:46
stories they're going to promote now.
26:50
So, given that you have that. All overgrown.
26:52
Oh, hey. Thanks for sharing about that.
26:56
And what I wanted to ask you about considering you have a
26:59
good knowledge of these things. That what would you say?
27:01
The major differences and maybe similarities between u.s. and
27:05
Canadian politics? Our our politics aren't quite.
27:15
I don't want to give us too much credit, right?
27:18
Okay. Like like I like to say that
27:21
ours. Politics aren't quite as corrupt
27:24
as the American system that's bold.
27:26
But yeah, say that but I don't know that.
27:30
That's true. It's sometimes very much feels.
27:34
Like the mix of business interests and politics is, you
27:40
know, it's to interlinked. And I mean, your average citizen
27:44
doesn't get as much say as they think they do because they don't
27:49
have own companies, they don't own.
27:51
Thanks the way that like Amazon owns things current
27:55
Administration with Justin Trudeau.
27:57
That's he's been in office for quite some time now.
28:00
How many years has he been in power?
28:03
I think he's first one in. What was it?
28:07
Like 2015 2014. Oh, it's shorter than I thought.
28:10
Okay, all right. Tony 50.
28:11
Okay so he'd be in is like second term I suppose.
28:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're depending on who you
28:19
ask, we're looking at a short election cycle this time around
28:24
because I mean, Justin Trudeau only got a minority government
28:30
last time. Just so So they it's quite
28:34
likely that there's going to be a non-confidence vote when it
28:37
comes around time to the budget. And or I mean people are saying
28:42
it's coming this fall, but who knows how many terms kind of one
28:48
particular president have? Is it the standard two terms or
28:51
is it? I think a prime minister can run
28:54
as long as they want because we don't vote for a prime minister,
28:58
right? Like we vote for the party,
29:00
right? Yeah.
29:01
But not based upon. The metric system like because I
29:03
think in America you can only have two terms as a president
29:06
Kanye so you're probably can keep getting voted but I suppose
29:10
I say if who's currently in power Joe Biden.
29:14
So if Joe Biden won like, Twice and then they wanted to get into
29:19
Power. Again third time, he wouldn't be
29:20
able to wrap. Yeah they have to have somebody
29:22
else run. It's it's an interesting like
29:26
they've got a weird setup because they've got their Senate
29:29
is like, I don't know if things are like this in the UK, but
29:33
their Senate is voted on where we have an appointed Senate.
29:38
He's about if I've understood this, correct, and I'm not big
29:43
on politics. So, you know, forgive me for not
29:46
understanding And in this. But as I understand, you can
29:48
have a government that said that the u.s. government is
29:52
conservative, right? But then you can have no, not
29:57
conservative, sorry Republican. So you got Republican
30:02
government, but then you can have a Democrat Senate, right?
30:09
Yeah. Democrat.
30:09
Right. So as I understand, Every issue
30:13
that they vote on it, so they said they put an order for your
30:18
something like we want to vote on this and then it goes through
30:21
the Senate, right? And then they debate it and then
30:23
they make sure it turns into law or bill or something, right?
30:28
That's how it works, sort of, because they've got the house,
30:32
and they've got the Senate, right?
30:34
So, how's the house is the person's house?
30:38
That's just, no. No, they've got.
30:40
And then I've got the presidency as well.
30:42
Like they've got okay. So they've got to kind of too.
30:48
Congress or Parliament or whatever, right?
30:52
So they've got Congress, people who are in the house which is
31:03
often because of the way the districts are drawn out, it
31:05
often leads Democrat and then you've got the Senate which is
31:10
two senators per state. I think it is regardless of the
31:14
population Congress is defined by population.
31:18
Senate is based on two per state, regardless, and then I
31:24
think feel free to correct me. I do nothing.
31:30
So I'm learning him. So then That tends to lean
31:35
Republican and then whoever the president is, is voted on on a
31:41
separate issue, right? Like, it's a whole other thing
31:45
and so you can have a bill that's created in the in the
31:49
house and get voted on and approved by the Democrats who
31:54
have the majority. Yep.
31:56
And then it can get vetoed or like you can get to the Senate
31:59
where it has to pass through another set of votes.
32:02
Yea where it'll get rejected. Yeah, that's that's what I'm
32:04
fascinated by it. So like the only way they can
32:07
assuredly put stuff through is with an executive order.
32:11
I that's why Trump was doing it the whole time.
32:13
Yes, Excellency. Yeah, he didn't have to put it
32:15
through the Senate. Yeah.
32:18
Well, he didn't have to put it through Congress or through the
32:21
house because the, they had a Republican Senate while he was
32:25
in power, right? Okay.
32:32
It's it's yeah, it's a mess, really?
32:35
It really could be. I mean, we've kind of got
32:38
something similar, I guess. I mean, in a sense that okay, in
32:41
the UK, as I understand you vote in the houses of the parliament.
32:48
That's where the first vote happens.
32:49
So, the government brings a bill and then both parties, all
32:53
parties vote on it. And then it gets past Eva it
32:58
goes through the House of Lords even before either, but he goes
33:01
through the House of Lords, and they do the same thing, and then
33:05
I believe the queen has to then kind of affirm the bills.
33:10
Okay, I don't think, I don't know that this happens for
33:12
everything, though. I know four major things it
33:14
does. The she'll give like a You of
33:17
approval, whatever and agreed to it.
33:19
But it's like done in Mass. They'll be like a bunch of
33:20
things that get like, sign, right.
33:23
But technically, she could veto is where if she wanted to and,
33:26
you know, rubber-stamp basically, I kind of but because
33:29
because I understand because they'd and this exact
33:32
historically in the UK I think this exists up until possibly
33:36
Charles. The first rain where the power
33:38
was given to the parliament but Powers never really taken away
33:44
from the monarchy. It's just the monarchy
33:46
basically. Essentially handed over power
33:49
and said, yeah, we agree to this but we still have an interest
33:53
and we will still write come down on you hard.
33:56
If we agree disagree with something but it's essentially
33:58
like giving over that power as a means of like, hey, you take
34:02
care of this so I can free up more time to do other stuff and
34:05
these days, it's not really acted upon, but technically is
34:08
possible that they could just start running with an iron fist
34:11
if they wanted to the monarchy. Thank, I think that's how it
34:15
works anyway. Okay.
34:17
Yeah, like you've got, we've got our Parliament, which is our
34:21
members of parliament that we all vote on to send to Ottawa.
34:26
And then, there's there is a senate, but it's an appointed
34:31
Senate. And as far as I know, they don't
34:34
do anything, except just approve, whatever the parliament
34:38
approves. So then you're stuck with like,
34:42
this kind of like, just one group of people, that decided
34:45
everything And no, there's no veto power at the prime
34:50
minister's level. There's no like executive orders
34:52
or anything like that. So I guess that's good.
34:56
There's not one person that's just ruling with an iron fist.
35:00
But yeah so far since you've been doing all this podcasting
35:07
and getting involved in politics, have you had any sort
35:10
of major clashes with right-wingers?
35:12
And if so, how did it play out like how did you manage that
35:14
situation? Like, you know, I mean, how how
35:20
major is The Clash on online for somebody like myself?
35:24
Right? You never know.
35:27
I suppose it depends how you compose oneself because some
35:29
people would choose to just go on a tirade attack.
35:32
Some people, it's like I said before, it depends on the
35:34
debating depends where you sit. Like if I was to pick a side.
35:38
For instance, me personally, if I was to decide to go political
35:41
and choose a side, I would approach it from the perspective
35:45
of I want to debate people, Hmm. Who disagree with me and learn
35:49
something again, something from it, debate them, enjoy it.
35:53
Enjoy the process of debating because it can be an enjoyable
35:55
experience but I think it depends if the other person is
35:59
willing to, you know, recuperate and actually debate you versus
36:03
attacking you. I see a lot of attacking like to
36:06
give you an example. People automatically assume my
36:09
leaning. I think they think I'm left
36:12
because I've often spoken about like Trump on the podcast.
36:15
I've had people and have have Kind of said that piece about
36:19
him that I didn't ask about. They just freely gave their
36:22
opinion and you know, I don't to be honest, I don't really
36:26
attribute Trump to Republicans. I see him as a businessman and
36:31
he just does what works for his business that I truly believe
36:34
this latest presidency, the main goal was to get myself as much
36:38
money as possible, make myself as many business deals and set
36:41
myself up. That's what I believe because
36:43
the he's business guy, you know, he's always been a business.
36:47
Guy. Look at yeah well leans over the
36:48
last 3040 years they've changed according to his business
36:51
interests. Yeah, whoever was in power.
36:53
He was a cozying up to basically until until Barack Obama.
36:57
And if every Pro every president has some political sorry,
37:02
business interests, that that's not a new thing.
37:04
Pushed it right thing. Yeah, everyone take one from the
37:07
left. Barack Obama, has used, I think
37:09
he's gone into more like ngos stuff, but, you know, he still
37:12
sup business stuff for himself, every every minute ministration
37:15
does it? Well, I mean, you could you
37:17
Could even say like you don't have to go to Barack Obama.
37:19
You could say the clintons, right?
37:20
Like look, I know they're they're Boogeyman but they have
37:23
major business ties to a lot of things.
37:26
So, yeah, it is interesting. And I think that sometimes it's
37:33
difficult to, to see past that, but for other people, I think
37:37
they really do believe that like every person that comes in or
37:41
Administration that comes in treaty represents them and that
37:44
I would like to believe that but it's again it's one of The
37:47
reasons why I don't get involved myself because I feel that like
37:51
they might represent you on certain issues, but then there's
37:53
always like, a place where they let you down in some respect,
37:56
you know, like that when it comes to, if I take, I've said
37:59
this on the podcast before but you take conservatives here in
38:02
Britain, they run it like a business, they run the country
38:06
like a business and they help the people that help them.
38:09
So people that in a way, you can't blame them for that.
38:13
Like, that's what any political party would do, if I say to you,
38:17
His Bunch money, I support you and then you get into Power.
38:22
You're going to do our very best, to make sure I get a
38:25
return on my investment. You know, I mean, that's just
38:27
psychology, that's it exactly. If somebody gives you money, you
38:32
feel like you have to pay them back.
38:34
Exactly. And that's why I believe white.
38:36
When people get angry about like, oh, you can because there
38:40
is only represent the rich or whatever.
38:42
It's like, what labor would do? The same thing dude, dude.
38:47
Same thing. You know, it's got nothing to do
38:49
with with with class or anything like that.
38:52
It's just helping the people that help you but there is a bit
38:55
of a class system here in the UK always has been always will be
39:00
and I sent there is a little bit of that in America but not in
39:03
the same way. It's kind of different.
39:05
But what about Canada do you have like a class system?
39:07
They're like What's the deal there?
39:09
Oh I mean under capitalism. Every system is a cat is a class
39:13
system, right? The struggle is class.
39:18
It's but yeah, we have an increasing like we have people
39:24
who are left behind and While others get richer every day and
39:29
that and that is why I'm on the political left, I get
39:32
technically, My Philosophy is even farther to the left than
39:35
any of the parties that we have, right?
39:39
Because and when you say, you don't feel represented by the
39:43
parties in your country, like I feel the same way because Was
39:47
the thing about political parties is, they always want to
39:51
appeal to the status quo on some level and the status quo leaves,
39:58
you know, the majority feeling relatively comfortable,
40:01
relatively okay placated, you know?
40:05
Because they can have their house and they can have their
40:07
car and, you know, as long as they work, they don't have, they
40:10
don't have to suffer too much. The fact that their one paycheck
40:13
away from bankruptcy, doesn't mean much if they keep getting
40:17
Paychecks, right? So it's Yeah, I mean class is a
40:24
major issue but let's bring it back to your podcasts.
40:31
I just want to know, kind of like, what are you hoping to
40:34
achieve these as far as that your goals?
40:37
Like, where where do you want to get with this?
40:40
Do you have plans Beyond podcasting like what you trying
40:42
to achieve in this field? What I mean, my I rat used to
40:50
run a podcast that when I was The skeptic and atheist
40:54
Community. I ran a podcast for six years
40:56
and I developed a love for the art of podcasting.
41:01
And for the the craft of audio engineering, You Know, audio
41:06
editing, and just, and talking to people just the interview
41:09
process. I love that.
41:12
And so, if I could do that as a job, That would be idea.
41:19
I'm the same. That's the goal like ultimately
41:22
but also I got to be true to my philosophy, right?
41:26
Okay. So so I also want to help you
41:32
learn more about left-wing politics.
41:34
I want to help people understand that anarchists aren't just
41:39
breaking wind. You know, we're not just the
41:42
people who go out and break windows and Riot.
41:44
We're also people who you know, promote things like food not
41:49
bombs to stop, being murdered by the state and we want everybody
41:54
to get their basic needs met. And I want to promote social
42:01
justice, like I want to promote anti-racism and feminism and
42:07
anything that I think will help society and prove is something
42:12
that I want to promote. Excellent.
42:16
Excellent. That's I mean, you know, that's
42:18
where I'm at with that. Thank you, thank you for that.
42:21
How was it? You've done podcasting for such
42:23
a long time. I want to ask you this.
42:25
So what tips would you give to aspiring podcasters?
42:29
Like what what? Did you sort of give us advice
42:31
considering you've done it for so long?
42:33
You've been sort of been successful but what tips would
42:36
you give? We kind of give it at the start
42:42
have a backup if you're recording you got to make sure
42:46
you got a backup because you could easily lose audio.
42:50
I've lost some pretty quality audio content at times in the
42:54
past so it's very frustrating but also also I find if it if
43:04
you can do it without doing too much work, adding video makes a
43:08
big difference. A lot of people really like
43:10
watching things on YouTube as well as listening, but you have
43:14
to have the audio as well. Because a lot of people can't
43:17
watch YouTube, like when I'm working, I can listen to audio
43:20
but I can't watch a video. So there's a lot of that going
43:24
on to. So you got to have both.
43:26
I think I totally agree. Yeah, it's different as well.
43:30
I see, sometimes people brand it is Video cost.
43:33
Vodcast, which is interesting. So this is a new concept of come
43:37
across based true. And I love the from what I can
43:42
see. On average, more people, listen
43:45
to my podcast, you know, via the audio platforms I have rather
43:49
than the video one and I expect that I expected that from the
43:52
beginning, because who's going to sit and watch, you know,
43:55
YouTube video for maybe two hours, I mean r.
43:59
And a lot of people that listen to my podcast podcast regulars,
44:02
they always tell me that they have it on in the background.
44:04
And I'm like, yeah, that's yeah, that's how I would do it over.
44:07
I think it's But yeah, it's a different medium.
44:11
I think for most podcast is out there, you know, making Clips is
44:19
something you need to do not just to attract attention to
44:22
what you're doing but also to encourage people to actually
44:24
check out your podcast as well. As much as it sucks for me
44:28
having to edit for ages to do. It is so essential.
44:32
If I didn't do it and I'm kind of annoyed.
44:34
I didn't do it sooner because you know, there's many episodes.
44:37
I need to catch up on An old ones that I need to clip off
44:40
eventually but it actually does really Drive interest towards
44:46
your podcast. You know those little Clips
44:47
those little it is I like to think of it like a highlight
44:52
reel, you know it's like the best moments and when I'm doing
44:55
my editing. Yeah I used to just clip
44:58
everything that I thought would get views or would be interested
45:01
now I'm like no let's try and clip the things that a obviously
45:05
a topic worthy or, you know, we'll get a little bit of
45:07
attention that, you know. We'll get attention and be the
45:10
things that were actually the best moments, the things that do
45:13
stand out, and were the best actual moments with that
45:16
particular episode, and that, but I think that requires a lot
45:19
of dedication to actually sit back and watch yourself and be
45:22
involved. And that's something you need to
45:24
do people, if you want to do a podcast.
45:26
I go whenever I see people, I've said this a million times
45:28
before. So broken record, you know, if
45:32
you set up a podcast Make sure that you do your research, and
45:36
your dedicated to it because it is something that takes a lot of
45:40
time and effort. And one of the things I've done
45:43
will recently is to try and space out my podcast.
45:45
Do like one a week because I do a bunch of other stuff and found
45:49
it. If you're only doing podcasting,
45:51
you can do more. And I get that, you know, but it
45:54
takes a lot of time that you have to dedicate and for me that
45:56
became a problem because, you know, I'm doing a bunch of other
45:59
stuff. So I sort of reasoned.
46:00
Okay, once a week that works for me, I'm prepared to put in the
46:03
time for that. Episode and I'll sometimes do
46:06
more if I get a bit more of a demand and, or particular guest
46:09
or whatever, but I do think it's better to kind of space them out
46:13
and do them less is more approach, you know.
46:16
I think that's all right. Yeah.
46:18
Like one of the Podcasts. I used to listen to that reach
46:24
the actual like could hire other people and like run multiple
46:28
shows with. He's one of the things they said
46:32
about their very first show is that they had to maintain a
46:35
contingent scared and always have one episode out per week or
46:40
per two weeks. Like, if that's your schedule,
46:43
they had to have it out regularly.
46:47
But it depends to like if you if you have the content and people
46:52
Coming for your content. I think I think that you're
46:57
going to find people will stick with you even if you're you know
47:01
have to take a Hiatus for a while or whatever is true.
47:04
Yeah. And I can't stand this, this
47:06
kind of like having a schedule this because mine's changes all
47:12
the time and you know I go Accord.
47:14
Yeah Bond. Did I mean so like ideally
47:17
attractant I try to get an episode out every week but it's
47:20
not guaranteed. I mean, I don't think I've ever
47:22
missed a week for a long time. So I've been lucky in that
47:25
respect but it has been down to demand, you know, there might be
47:27
times when I don't get guests. I don't get so lucky right.
47:31
Yeah, you know, I've got a back-up plan for that I've got,
47:33
you know, particular topics that I want to cover just in general,
47:36
but I think that the podcast is always been better.
47:40
When it's been this interview style, this discussion style and
47:43
it's more enjoyable for me as well.
47:44
Like it's very different when it's just sitting and talking to
47:47
the mic. It's just like a long-winded
47:50
YouTube video. And I do put this out of effort
47:52
in up. Research time in and stuff, but
47:55
it's just not the same. It's right, right?
47:58
And like I have I have kids, right?
48:02
So my my time that I'm allowed able to be alone is very
48:09
limited. So I have to be very when I can
48:13
do it. So having a rigid schedule
48:16
doesn't always work. Like I always ask my guests this
48:22
and I think it's an interesting question to ask what are the
48:26
best and worst things about Regina Saskatchewan.
48:33
Hmm well I mean the best and worst things, the best thing
48:39
about Regina Is that it just it's a it's like a it takes
48:46
itself. Seriously, in the sense that it
48:48
feels like a big town but the it isn't, it isn't a big city,
48:52
right? It's a Only 380,000 people or
48:59
something like that. Like, it's not a very big city
49:02
but so it's easy to get around everywhere and but it still
49:06
feels like a city. Hmm, the worst thing is the
49:12
streets so which hopefully they'll improve on what will
49:17
specifically the road this you mean Yeah, yeah, the it's we
49:22
have a lot of one-way streets and we have a lot of bad
49:26
potholes. This is whiskey pothole problem
49:31
as a sort of every kind of problem and it's not local
49:36
government, just spend the money.
49:37
Alright, your people will. Thank you.
49:40
That's right. I'm willing to pay a few bit
49:43
more in taxes. If you just fix the roads of
49:45
people don't risk killing themselves.
49:47
You know, mean, exactly, I've, for my Saskatchewan politics
49:51
show. I often listen in to City
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Council meetings for my local city council and there they have
50:00
debates. Sometimes about things that I
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consider very silly, like how tall you're allowed to let your
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grass grow more food before they will find you the issues like
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depression issues, facing our nation, how tall can your shrubs
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be? Yeah, it needs your grass needs
50:18
to be well, kept so that our city Beautiful.
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But we're gonna commit. Got the Beat, we lose.
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We lose out in the most beautiful city of the Year award
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like, very silly. Let's go on a more serious note.
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I love asking this question. What is the biggest life lesson
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that you've learned so far? Don't stay humble.
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You don't know everything. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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I guess. Yeah.
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Be like, because you have to be able to listen to people who
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know more about a thing, right? And you like, up personally just
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a guy I dropped out of high school.
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I flunked out of University. I've been a labor for 20 years,
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I'm not, I'm not what I would think of as like an
51:20
unintelligent person, but clearly, I'm not an expert on
51:25
anything, so I think it's important.
51:29
Like you said, kind of, he said, oh, you know, dropped out these
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places. I've been in labor, 20 years,
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like there seems to be this thing that exists in society
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where laboring is somehow like, looked down on.
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And I never understand that. Because a, yeah, no, yeah, good
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good. Good just like good.
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List solid hard work never hurt anybody.
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You know, that's how I was raised as well.
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Like, you know, I've had all sorts of jobs.
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I've worked physical jobs. I've worked in offices.
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You name it. Yeah, I never afraid to get my
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hands dirty and do some hard work, right?
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There's you can learn a lot of good life lessons from doing
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hard physical. That's number one.
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Number two, people seem to have this impression that you can't
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earn a lot of money and that is further from the truth.
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UK for instance, I have, I have An uncle who does scaffolding,
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okay. And he was just sitting telling
52:21
me about that this would last year before the lock downs and
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everything happens as well as chance, seen him.
52:26
And he was just telling me about how much he would earn in a
52:29
month. And I was sitting there light,
52:32
how much I said, that's insane. And he's like, yeah, that's
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that's normal for scaffolding. And I was like, I would dream of
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hurting that much. I mean, I even in my highest
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paying office job. I would not even come close to
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that but that's the reality, like, physical skills are highly
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sought after. And what you can do with those
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skills is almost invaluable and I don't know.
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I mean, maybe maybe that that attitude is is disappearing a
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bit more over time now, you know?
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But I still feel like it exists a little bit there sometimes.
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And, you know, for me personally got unique.
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Given that I've worked in all kind of field.
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So I kind of ready to see. Everything is equal.
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I just see it as different routes to do.
53:13
Some people have skill with their hands somewhere their
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minds somewhere, you know whatever like it's different
53:18
skills, different human skills and the guys like like they like
53:23
the guys that I work with they're truck drivers.
53:25
They come in and go the guys that I used to work with because
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we used to have more than one person on it, my job.
53:33
So there I would never describe any of them as not.
53:38
People write. Like, they're all and they all
53:41
know more about this thing or that thing, then you could find
53:45
like a university. Professor doesn't know how to
53:48
fit do pipe fitting, right? So, 64 different types of
53:53
intelligence. I think that's the problem.
53:54
People always assume that like Academia and books and stuff is,
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is the only form of intelligence and it's not true.
54:00
Like intelligence comes in different forms.
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I think, I think the one thing though that unites us, all is
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common sense that one. One is one that misses a lot of
54:10
people and it doesn't matter if you're, you know, really, really
54:13
dumb in general or your college professor.
54:16
I mean, my mum, she works in the University, right?
54:18
And the amount of time, she's told me about PhD student, who
54:23
came and did, like, I don't know, intern in or like some
54:26
summer work or something. And she said that, these people
54:28
are stupid. They don't stare like basic
54:31
stuff and it's like I get that you spend all your time studying
54:34
physics or whatever, that's great.
54:36
But how can you not know how to do some Basic office filing or
54:40
you get confused about using this computer or whatever.
54:43
And it's like, you know, I think basically I guess my point with
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this is, you know, intelligence comes in many different forms
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and just just try and educate yourself in all areas.
54:54
Yeah, there's nothing Well much as anything.
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Yeah. Be as open-minded as you can in
54:57
all areas and just learn everywhere because any type of
55:00
knowledge has I think valuable knowledge in some shape or form
55:04
my I used, I have a friend who went to school for your Safiye.
55:09
And he got his degree and he basically he says like if I had
55:15
stayed long enough to get my PhD I'm sure that I would lose the
55:18
ability to turn on a light switch.
55:22
I mean if you spend enough time away from something, or make
55:27
something stick around some things about muscle memory.
55:29
But yeah, I agree with. I think it's the more you do
55:32
something about you get her. It's like if I guitar for
55:35
instance, I play guitar with my life but there's When I was at
55:39
Uni, Betty paid, you know, just enough the time and then I
55:43
started getting back into it, more in more recent years and I
55:46
didn't forget how to do it. But like you know my fingers
55:49
start getting blisters again, had to build them up again.
55:52
Yeah, had to just practice just to get better a strumming again
55:56
because I just was messy. You know, I'm the messiness is
55:59
gone now but it's about practice.
56:01
You got to practice anything, you do.
56:03
Yeah. Yeah.
56:04
And then includes thinking like, yeah, As we draw things to a
56:11
close for today, do you have any upcoming projects or maybe some
56:14
final thoughts that you'd like to share with our listeners?
56:21
Long, pause, no, I big projects nothing in particular.
56:29
Like I'm just, I'm just trying to get my shows out every time,
56:33
every two weeks because I record with other people for some of
56:37
them. And so we're just trying to keep
56:40
those going. And as for final thoughts, I
56:42
just think that like obviously, I'm biased, but I think that a
56:50
lot of the, a lot of people have misconceptions when it comes to
56:53
like left-wing politics and I think that if one actually tries
56:59
to learn the philosophies a little bit, you like you don't
57:02
have to like read the Wiki page or you know just try to and and
57:08
don't don't Maybe you could stop having a caricature of the
57:15
person you disagree with in your head?
57:20
Yeah, totally great. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the
57:22
day, we're all human and we're going to disagree on stuff.
57:26
You know, I've had conversations with people that have a
57:29
disagreed with on certain issues, but we had a healthy
57:32
conversation, we didn't attack each other.
57:34
I think the problem is people make things too personal and
57:37
don't get me wrong. Some issues are deeply personal,
57:40
and they should. TV for a reason, but other
57:42
things it's like, hey, it's okay if we disagree on this like it
57:45
doesn't, we can still be friends.
57:47
We can skip dinner. My I think that's a good point.
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The lesson for us all, be sure. And so social media doesn't help
57:52
but no, that's especially places.
57:55
Like Twitter is like a war zone. I've avoided, yeah, yeah, I try
57:59
to stay off Twitter as much as I can.
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Okay, Cory. I just want to say a massive,
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thank you for agreeing to be on the show.
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