Latest / The M&M Experience / M and M EXTRA Jul 6 2026 | July 4 Wrap-up and Birthright Citizenship Solutions
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades
- 0:05Speaker 1: of talk show experience, an extension of the magic they've
- 0:09Speaker 1: created together on radio in the phenomenon called M and
- 0:13Speaker 1: M Hot Topics in the News and Wisdom from Light.
- 0:17Speaker 1: It's Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is eminem Extra.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody on this Monday, the sixth of July.
- 0:27Speaker 2: On the episode that is known I guess the other M.
- 0:30Speaker 2: I was gone all last week and it was glorious.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I just and it killed me. It kills me a
- 0:37Speaker 2: little to be out for big stuff while I was away.
- 0:42Speaker 2: The big thing was the Supreme Court birthright citizenship ruling,
- 0:49Speaker 2: which was horrible, and I've got a thing or two
- 0:53Speaker 2: to say about that because it was a big part
- 0:54Speaker 2: of the radio show this morning. A lot of us
- 0:56Speaker 2: gathering together for a little strategy session on what what
- 1:01Speaker 2: do you do? What do you do when the Supreme
- 1:03Speaker 2: Court just doesn't get it? What do you do when
- 1:05Speaker 2: when when people in black robes with big brains and
- 1:09Speaker 2: big legal resumes just don't get it? And I'm I'm
- 1:16Speaker 2: prepared to write off the Katanji Brown Jackson, Sonya Sotomayor,
- 1:20Speaker 2: Ilina Kagan wing of activist judiciary. I mean, they're just
- 1:26Speaker 2: always going to rule, not according to the Constitution, but
- 1:30Speaker 2: according to the way they just kind of think life
- 1:32Speaker 2: ought to be. They will forever legislate from the bench.
- 1:36Speaker 2: But it's just not acceptable when well, first of all,
- 1:39Speaker 2: that's not acceptable. I guess, I guess I'm calling it acceptable.
- 1:42Speaker 2: I'm because I could bang my head against the wall.
- 1:45Speaker 2: You know, forever. There shouldn't be anybody on a Supreme
- 1:50Speaker 2: Court that is this willfully constitutionally blind. Those three women
- 1:56Speaker 2: women mind you were on thank god, the losing side,
- 1:59Speaker 2: because the gender case went well. Birthright citizenship did not.
- 2:05Speaker 2: The states that said that dared to say, hey, we're
- 2:10Speaker 2: not going to have boys in girls sports? How about that?
- 2:14Speaker 2: And some people sued, and the Supreme Court ruled correctly
- 2:18Speaker 2: on that that, of course, states can keep men out
- 2:20Speaker 2: of you keep boys out of girls' locker rooms, men
- 2:23Speaker 2: out of women's sports, et cetera, et cetera. But three
- 2:27Speaker 2: notable women did not rush to the aid of young women.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Now here's the thing they're not supposed to rule according
- 2:37Speaker 2: to shared gender, shared race, shared politics, shared anything. The
- 2:43Speaker 2: thing we're supposed to share is constitutional fidelity. I know
- 2:50Speaker 2: there are some cases where even if you try to
- 2:52Speaker 2: see things through a constitutional lens, you'll get different answers.
- 2:57Speaker 2: You know, what is or is not a First Amendment
- 3:00Speaker 2: cases can sometimes be kind of tricky. What does or
- 3:03Speaker 2: doesn't the Second Amendment? Say, I somehow I've never had
- 3:06Speaker 2: a big trial, a big, big difficulty with that. But
- 3:08Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, I get it, I got my side.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Others have their side this one. You know, the gender
- 3:14Speaker 2: thing shouldn't have been hard, and neither should birthright citizenship.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Neither should birthright citizenship. The framers of the fourteenth Amendment
- 3:21Speaker 2: never envisioned, never that you simply walk across the Rio
- 3:27Speaker 2: Grande or hop off a plane instant citizen. No one
- 3:32Speaker 2: ever even thought that would happen. It was primarily about
- 3:37Speaker 2: freed slaves and their progeny, and because we had people
- 3:41Speaker 2: who obviously were not only were they not citizens, they
- 3:44Speaker 2: weren't people. I just remember in history class, remembering the
- 3:48Speaker 2: three fifths compromises, Like, okay, the slaves, how about if
- 3:52Speaker 2: we count them for the purpose of a census and
- 3:54Speaker 2: congressional apportionment, how about three fifths of three fifths of
- 3:58Speaker 2: a person? Good lord, well, well, we did that, we
- 4:02Speaker 2: got better. But not only were they not citizens, they
- 4:07Speaker 2: weren't even people. They were property at the outset. As
- 4:10Speaker 2: I'm sure you recall, we needed to make clear that
- 4:14Speaker 2: they were also citizens and subject to the jurisdiction of
- 4:17Speaker 2: the United States rather than some foreign power. That's why
- 4:22Speaker 2: this eighteen ninety eight case United States versus Wong kim
- 4:25Speaker 2: Arc he was he was granted citizenship, his parents were.
- 4:30Speaker 2: His parents were legal permanent residents, but they were not citizens.
- 4:34Speaker 2: They owed their allegiance to who the Emperor of China.
- 4:37Speaker 2: So young Wong kim arc lovely gentleman, I'm sure should
- 4:42Speaker 2: not have been any United States citizen period. Now, final
- 4:47Speaker 2: word on this before we do a little July fourth
- 4:49Speaker 2: wrap up. July fourth, Rock, I hope you had a
- 4:51Speaker 2: fantastic July fourth, whatever you were doing. I was on
- 4:54Speaker 2: Lake Lewisville in North Texas with some friends on a boat,
- 4:58Speaker 2: watching fireworks as America. To me, man, it says America.
- 5:02Speaker 2: I'll tell you what else says America. Staying up till
- 5:04Speaker 2: midnight and watching fireworks in Washington, d C. A bunch
- 5:06Speaker 2: of people did that. Oh, it was glorious, and we
- 5:09Speaker 2: got some of President Trump's remarks, which were just wonderfully uplifting.
- 5:13Speaker 2: It was just a joy as we look at those
- 5:19Speaker 2: celebrations and as we take a look at some of
- 5:22Speaker 2: the Supreme Court stuff in the midst of all of this.
- 5:30Speaker 2: The bow that I try to tie around this is
- 5:32Speaker 2: that constitutional fidelity should unite everybody, Which doesn't mean that
- 5:36Speaker 2: we're going to agree on every Supreme Court case, but
- 5:39Speaker 2: when it's right there on the page in front of you, which,
- 5:42Speaker 2: by the way, abortion was this simple. It took us
- 5:44Speaker 2: fifty years to get to this one. There's no right
- 5:46Speaker 2: to abortion in the Constitution. Are you high? For fifty
- 5:50Speaker 2: years we had that because some people though, well we
- 5:52Speaker 2: just didn't want to tell the little lady that she
- 5:53Speaker 2: couldn't get the abortion. Well, guess what that you invented
- 5:57Speaker 2: a right that did not exist. It was a complete
- 6:00Speaker 2: constitutional fiction. So I'll tell you what it is the
- 6:05Speaker 2: Constitution we honor. It is our founders we honor. It
- 6:08Speaker 2: is our amazing history that we honor. As we take
- 6:12Speaker 2: a look at America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. The
- 6:16Speaker 2: beginning of our two hundred and fifty first year, I
- 6:19Speaker 2: had to went through the mill with some people on
- 6:22Speaker 2: this as we begin our two hundred and fiftieth year. No, no, no, no.
- 6:26Speaker 2: When you're born, you begin your first year. On your
- 6:29Speaker 2: two hundred and fiftieth birthday, you begin your two hundred
- 6:31Speaker 2: fifty first year. So got that. Thank you. President Trump
- 6:37Speaker 2: was clearly a big part of it. He was always
- 6:39Speaker 2: going to be flyovers and flags and fireworks and festivities,
- 6:45Speaker 2: all the f's. There are some other fs from Democrats too,
- 6:50Speaker 2: who just cannot be bothered to love and admire and
- 6:54Speaker 2: revere and lift up and hold up this country. So
- 6:58Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, let's do. Cut is a President Trump,
- 7:02Speaker 2: and I just want you to just if you saw this,
- 7:05Speaker 2: it's great to see it again. If you didn't, it's
- 7:07Speaker 2: just an opportunity to go right to the nation's capital
- 7:10Speaker 2: to where they kept everybody up pretty late for this,
- 7:13Speaker 2: but it was well well worth it. As the forty
- 7:15Speaker 2: seventh President weighs in on some of what made this
- 7:19Speaker 2: particular American birthday so special.
- 7:22Speaker 3: As they said last night at the beautiful Mount Rushbore,
- 7:26Speaker 3: what a beautiful place where Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Theodore
- 7:31Speaker 3: Roosevelt loomed over my shoulder as I spoke America will
- 7:35Speaker 3: never be a communist country. Won't happen. Communism is a
- 7:42Speaker 3: loser and it always will be. The communist system is
- 7:47Speaker 3: the opposite. As they said last night at the beautiful
- 7:52Speaker 3: Mount Rushbore, what a beautiful place where Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln,
- 7:57Speaker 3: and Theodore Roosevelt loomed over my shoulder. I spoke, America
- 8:02Speaker 3: will never be a communist country. Won't happen. Communism is
- 8:09Speaker 3: a loser and it always will be. The communist system
- 8:14Speaker 3: is the opposite of the American system. And the communist
- 8:17Speaker 3: system has never worked. Our warriors did not fight communism
- 8:22Speaker 3: on battlefields across the world only to have that menace
- 8:26Speaker 3: rear its ugly head right back here in America. We're
- 8:29Speaker 3: not going to let it happen. We like to stop
- 8:36Speaker 3: a threat like that immediately and before it begins.
- 8:40Speaker 4: Just like a.
- 8:41Speaker 3: Cancer, you got to cut it out.
- 8:42Speaker 4: You got to cut it out fast.
- 8:46Speaker 2: That's it for an American president to be I mean,
- 8:50Speaker 2: what a gift to be able to riff on communism.
- 8:54Speaker 2: These are I was talking about the sliding Overton window.
- 8:59Speaker 2: You're familiar with the filosophical content of the Overton window.
- 9:03Speaker 2: The Overton window is the imaginary brackets within which reasonable
- 9:07Speaker 2: things reside. You know, one hundred years ago, two dudes
- 9:11Speaker 2: getting married, not within the Overton window. Now it is.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Don't mean everybody likes it, but it's like, oh yeah,
- 9:16Speaker 2: two dudes got married, and it's another day in America.
- 9:21Speaker 2: The Overton window on communism, on socialism and elected officials.
- 9:28Speaker 2: I described taking calls from people who, let's say, thirty,
- 9:33Speaker 2: shoot twelve, thirty years ago, mid nineties or somebody would
- 9:37Speaker 2: call him. They say, yah, Marco, I think that Congressman
- 9:39Speaker 2: Joe Blow, I think he's a socialist. And I said, okay,
- 9:43Speaker 2: all right, back it down, sir or ma'am. And they
- 9:47Speaker 2: might have some views that lean a little towards socialism,
- 9:49Speaker 2: but they're not actually socialists. Now they are proudly socialists,
- 9:54Speaker 2: the AOC wing, the COMI corridor. They these people who
- 9:59Speaker 2: are winning primary after primary after primary after primary. They
- 10:04Speaker 2: absolutely are self described socialists espousing things that are straight
- 10:10Speaker 2: from the Marx Mrix not mark apostrophe as a communist manifesto.
- 10:16Speaker 2: It's not where are we? And I would I would
- 10:19Speaker 2: think I would think that's a gift. I would think
- 10:22Speaker 2: that would help us to stave off the disaster that
- 10:26Speaker 2: supposedly lies ahead for us in the midterms tomorrow. For Tuesday,
- 10:30Speaker 2: we're going to talk a little bit about in the
- 10:31Speaker 2: midterms and how to succeed in them, and some things,
- 10:34Speaker 2: some things that are challenges, and some things that might
- 10:37Speaker 2: be uh, maybe let's just call them gifts, little gift
- 10:40Speaker 2: wrapped things that might help us out a little bit.
- 10:42Speaker 2: And the the craziness of today's Democrat Party is one
- 10:46Speaker 2: of them. And I'm gonna take about three four more
- 10:49Speaker 2: minutes today and let's take a look at some of
- 10:51Speaker 2: the things that were big in today's news. And one
- 10:56Speaker 2: thing I want to I want to pay a tribute
- 10:58Speaker 2: to somebody who deserves to have a trip paid to
- 11:00Speaker 2: him today, another American president on his birthday. We'll get
- 11:04Speaker 2: to that here in a second. As we are doing
- 11:07Speaker 2: this live, it's middle of the day on Monday, July sixth,
- 11:12Speaker 2: So whether you're sort of downloading on Apple or Spotify
- 11:15Speaker 2: later in the day, let's presume that, if you're pretty
- 11:18Speaker 2: quick on the uptake, that the USA and Belgium have
- 11:22Speaker 2: not played yet. Okay, so you know how this played
- 11:27Speaker 2: out right during versus Bosnia Herzegovina, our guy and the
- 11:31Speaker 2: Bosnia guy are both running toward the ball. Our guy's
- 11:35Speaker 2: foot comes down on the other guy's ankle. Ouch. Hate
- 11:38Speaker 2: when that happens. Could it have been a yellow card?
- 11:42Speaker 4: Maybe?
- 11:43Speaker 2: Was it intentional the least? No, Was it the stuff
- 11:46Speaker 2: of a red card? Absolutely not. That's crazy. And you
- 11:53Speaker 2: know who ultimately thought it was crazy. FIFA, the actual
- 11:57Speaker 2: soccer gods. They took a look at that and said, no,
- 12:00Speaker 2: that wasn't a red card. We're going to take away
- 12:02Speaker 2: the suspension and our guy can play versus Belgium. They
- 12:05Speaker 2: did exactly the right thing. Would did it were that simple?
- 12:10Speaker 2: Because President Trump got on the horn to the FIFA people,
- 12:16Speaker 2: that's not right. So that's it's not a red card.
- 12:19Speaker 2: So now it looks to everybody like Trump has FIFA
- 12:22Speaker 2: around his middle finger middle fescuse me little around his
- 12:25Speaker 2: little finger, Freudian slip. Like Trump maybe gave the middle
- 12:29Speaker 2: figure to FIFA and got them to buckle UNDERFA hates him,
- 12:34Speaker 2: the refs hate America. Are you kidding? They're not gonna
- 12:37Speaker 2: accede to our requests or bend to our wishes or
- 12:40Speaker 2: anything like that. In the least, So they did the
- 12:43Speaker 2: right thing. Let just let that marinate and we'll see
- 12:47Speaker 2: what happens that where when we are at full strength
- 12:50Speaker 2: against Belgium out there in Seattle, that is apparently going
- 12:54Speaker 2: to be I mean, Seattle's a weird part of the country,
- 12:57Speaker 2: beautiful part of the country, politically weird. If you talk
- 13:02Speaker 2: about sports fans in that building, you know, your Seahawks,
- 13:04Speaker 2: your twelf Man, you're kind of That building has bred
- 13:08Speaker 2: some enthusiasm in the past, and I'm guessing it will
- 13:11Speaker 2: as Team USA takes the not the field, it's the pitch.
- 13:15Speaker 2: I'm learning the lexicon against against Belgium. This evening today
- 13:20Speaker 2: is George W. Bush's eightieth birthday. George W. Is eighty.
- 13:27Speaker 2: When I came back to my native Texas in nineteen
- 13:31Speaker 2: ninety four, there was a guernatorial campaign underway, and he
- 13:37Speaker 2: was running, and he was known as a sports figure,
- 13:45Speaker 2: son of the president of course Bush forty one. He
- 13:48Speaker 2: obviously wasn't Bush forty three yet, and he wasn't even
- 13:51Speaker 2: Governor George W. Bush yet. But I helped him achieve
- 13:56Speaker 2: that in my small little way. M seeing a few
- 13:59Speaker 2: things for him and glad to do so. It's an
- 14:03Speaker 2: interesting primary that year. A lot of people wondered whether
- 14:06Speaker 2: and you know, the usual nepotism vibe was, well, just
- 14:11Speaker 2: being a president's son, that doesn't make you fit to
- 14:14Speaker 2: be a governor. And by the way, that's correct. You
- 14:16Speaker 2: had to have the right policies, the right countenance, the
- 14:18Speaker 2: right kind of approach, run the right kind of campaign,
- 14:21Speaker 2: do the right kind of fundraising, have the right friends,
- 14:24Speaker 2: and get enough voters and then you succeed. And he did.
- 14:27Speaker 2: And so he wins and becomes a governor in nineteen
- 14:32Speaker 2: ninety four, runs for reelection in nineteen ninety eight. Everybody knows,
- 14:36Speaker 2: my dog knows, and when he's running in nineteen ninety
- 14:39Speaker 2: eight that if he wins and is sworn in in
- 14:42Speaker 2: nineteen you know, in January of nineteen ninety nine, it's
- 14:46Speaker 2: the calendar starting to take shape for you. Everybody knew
- 14:50Speaker 2: that in his second term George W. Bush was immediately
- 14:55Speaker 2: going to start running for president. And no one minded,
- 14:59Speaker 2: I mean no one people he can't be governor and
- 15:02Speaker 2: run for it. Well, guess what he did is he
- 15:05Speaker 2: did fine in his second term as well, untill witning
- 15:11Speaker 2: for president, which kind of abbreviated that, which is what
- 15:14Speaker 2: started the lengthy service of Rick Perry. It is it's
- 15:20Speaker 2: not the same George W. And I tell you what
- 15:23Speaker 2: I want to do on this his eightieth birthday. I
- 15:25Speaker 2: want to remember the guy I remember, Remember the guy
- 15:28Speaker 2: I know, the guy I actually know in his in
- 15:30Speaker 2: his Texas history, the guy I know throwing out that
- 15:34Speaker 2: pitch at Yankee Stadium, the guy I know with a
- 15:36Speaker 2: bullhorn standing himid the wreckage, the guy I know who's
- 15:40Speaker 2: he and his family have such a heart for service.
- 15:44Speaker 2: So before Trump broke them, broke the entire family. Although
- 15:48Speaker 2: George P Is fine, I believe Jeb is getting better.
- 15:51Speaker 2: But man, I you know, I said, I don't want
- 15:53Speaker 2: to dwell on this, and I'm not going to. But
- 15:56Speaker 2: maybe it's having Jeb kicked so hard as he was
- 15:59Speaker 2: by Trump and family does mean something. But at some
- 16:02Speaker 2: point you've got to come back to where the American
- 16:04Speaker 2: people are. Not that you know, George W. Needs to
- 16:07Speaker 2: walk around wearing a MAGA hat every day, but just
- 16:10Speaker 2: can we stop the hate a little bit? But again,
- 16:13Speaker 2: enough about that. On this his eightieth birthday, let us
- 16:16Speaker 2: remember his and his family's genuine heart for service and
- 16:20Speaker 2: the many, many, many things that he and his family
- 16:24Speaker 2: have done for our country or our state. Here in Texas,
- 16:27Speaker 2: and I wish him and Laura great health, great happiness,
- 16:31Speaker 2: and so just thank you, mister President, thank you Governor Bush,
- 16:34Speaker 2: thank you my friend George W. And I hope you
- 16:36Speaker 2: have the very happiest of birthdays. And I'm a long,
- 16:39Speaker 2: long life and many many more birthdays to come. Well,
- 16:42Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, until Mike's back. I mean, you know,
- 16:44Speaker 2: I'm not going to waste any more of your time.
- 16:46Speaker 2: And how much material have I got all by myself.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Oh it's a lot. But I'll go ahead and let
- 16:52Speaker 2: you go get back to your day back tomorrow and
- 16:55Speaker 2: on Wednesday, and then Mike joins us for the full
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- 17:31Speaker 2: it's it's all, it's it's just a great I will
- 17:33Speaker 2: tell you because here's the thing in my ear that
- 17:35Speaker 2: Mike indicated, and do me a favor and confirm this
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