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- Lucas: So the most consequential board decision in modern entertainment history — when you look back at the last five years — might not be a merger or a content bet. It might be whether the Disney board actually managed to get the CEO succession right after the chaos of 2020. Luna: Right, the Bob chapek to bob Iger back to chapek and back again saga. It felt like a reality show at times. Lucas: It really did. And it's worth unpacking because the board made a series of decisions under extreme pressure — pandemic, streaming wars, activist shareholders — and some of those decisions looked awful in the moment but may have ultimately set Disney up for a healthier long-term governance structure. Luna: Let's start at the beginning. In early 2020, Bob Iger steps down as CEO, hands the reins to Bob Chapek. Iger stays on as executive chairman. That alone is an unusual structure. Lucas: Exactly. The board blessed a split where the outgoing CEO remained as chairman. That's a recipe for confusion. And within months, the pandemic hits, and you have two Bobs essentially running Disney from different playbooks. Iger later admitted in his book that he found it hard to let go, and Chapek felt undermined. Lucas: The board's first mistake was not enforcing a clean break. Iger should have either stayed as CEO or left entirely. Instead, they created a shadow structure. Luna: And that tension played out publicly. There were reports of Iger and Chapek disagreeing on park reopenings, streaming strategy, even how to handle the Scarlett Johansson lawsuit. Lucas: Right. And the board initially backed Chapek — they gave him the reins fully in December 2021 when Iger finally left the chairman role. But by mid-2022, things were unraveling. Disney's stock had dropped, the streaming division was losing billions, and Chapek's restructuring — consolidating power under a new Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution unit — alienated creative leaders. Luna: Then in November 2022, the board abruptly fires Chapek and brings back Iger as CEO for two years. That was a stunning reversal. Lucas: It was a board admitting, 'We got it wrong.' And to their credit, they acted decisively. But the way they handled it — leaking to the press, no clear transition plan — it reinforced the perception that the board was reactive, not strategic. Luna: So what changed? How did they go from that chaos to what looks like a more stable succession in 2025? Lucas: The key factor was the arrival of activist investor Nelson Peltz and his firm Trian Fund Management. Peltz took a stake in Disney in late 2022 and pushed for a board seat. He argued the board was too insular, too close to Iger, and lacked media expertise. Luna: And initially, the board fought him. They added new directors — including former Nike CEO Mark Parker — but kept Peltz out. Then in early 2024, Peltz launched a proxy fight. Lucas: That proxy fight was brutal. Peltz ran on a platform of 'restoring shareholder value' and criticized the board for its handling of succession. Disney spent tens of millions defending its slate. Ultimately, the board won — shareholders rejected Peltz — but the margin was narrower than expected. And the board got the message. Luna: What was the message exactly? Lucas: That investors wanted a credible plan for life after Iger. Not just a name, but a process. So the board fundamentally overhauled its succession planning. They created a dedicated succession committee, brought in external advisors, and started publicly disclosing their criteria for the next CEO. Luna: And they set a hard deadline: Iger would step down by the end of 2025, no extensions. Lucas: Right. That forced discipline. They also broadened the candidate pool beyond the usual internal heirs. They looked at external candidates — media executives, tech leaders, even someone from outside entertainment entirely. Luna: And the eventual choice — Dana Walden, who had been leading Disney's television division — was announced in early 2025, giving her nearly a year of transition time. Lucas: That's the big shift. In 2020, the board handed the keys to Chapek with little transition. In 2025, they gave Walden a runway. She's been shadowing Iger, attending board meetings, building relationships with investors. The board learned from its mistakes. Luna: What about the board's composition? Did that change too? Lucas: Significantly. As of early 2026, the board has 12 members, down from 14. Only five are legacy directors from the Iger-Chapek era. The new members include a former CFO of a major tech company, a private equity leader, and a media industry veteran with deep content experience. The average tenure dropped from nine years to four. Luna: So the activist pressure actually worked — not by getting Peltz on the board, but by forcing the board to professionalize. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the lesson for any board facing a succession crisis. You can't just find a CEO. You need a process. You need transparency. And you need a board that's willing to hold itself accountable. Luna: It's also a reminder that no company, not even Disney, is immune to governance failures. But they can be corrected. Lucas: Speaking of corrections — and this really ties in — we've been talking about how boards make tough calls under pressure. And one thing that allows us to keep having these conversations without interruption is that we don't run ads. It's a deliberate choice. If you've found value in episodes like this one — whether it's a governance insight that changed how you think about your own board, or just a better understanding of how Disney works — you can support that choice at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Luna: Yeah, it's a small way to keep this independent. We don't do sponsors, we don't do product placements. Just the conversation. And listeners have been incredibly generous. Lucas: Back to Disney. One more thing I want to highlight: the board's decision to separate the chairman and CEO roles permanently. Iger held both roles during his second stint, but going forward, the chairman will be an independent director. That's a structural fix that prevents the kind of shadow governance we saw in 2020. Luna: That seems like a no-brainer in hindsight, but it took a crisis to implement it. Lucas: Often does. The question now is whether the board can maintain that discipline once the crisis fades. Succession is never a one-and-done. It's an ongoing process. The next test will be when Walden eventually steps down — will the board stick to its playbook? Luna: And will they resist the temptation to bring back another retired CEO? Lucas: Right. That's the ultimate governance challenge: building a system that doesn't depend on a single heroic figure. Disney's board has made real progress. But the proof will be in the next transition.