Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Canadian athletes speak out against controversial Sydney Sweeney ad
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- 0:00Speaker 1: A provocative new sports betting ad campaign featuring actor Sydney
- 0:04Speaker 1: Sweeney is sparking online backlash. Think you know sports?
- 0:10Speaker 2: Prove it.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Sweeney shone in the nearly minute-long ad with little or
- 0:15Speaker 1: no clothing. Some prominent athletes are slamming it, saying the
- 0:18Speaker 1: campaign sexualizes women in sports. In an apparent response, Sweeney
- 0:23Speaker 1: posted a series of covers from ESPN, the magazine's body issue,
- 0:27Speaker 1: an annual edition that showed female and male athletes posing
- 0:30Speaker 1: nude or semi-nude. This certainly isn't the first time Sweeney
- 0:34Speaker 1: has sparked controversy with an ad. Last year, her Great
- 0:37Speaker 1: Jeans American Eagle campaign also drew widespread debate online. Full
- 0:44Speaker 1: among the athletes criticizing Sweeney's ad, a Canadian Olympian who
- 0:47Speaker 1: posted a reply on her social media.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Think you know sports? Go ahead.
- 1:07Speaker 1: And Madeline Skeezis joins us now from Oakville, Ontario, four-time
- 1:11Speaker 1: Canadian women's figure skating champion. and she's represented Canada at
- 1:15Speaker 1: two Olympics. Madeline, thank you very much for speaking with us.
- 1:18Speaker 1: When you first saw the Sydney sweetie ad, what was
- 1:21Speaker 1: your initial reaction?
- 1:25Speaker 2: I mean, I was a little bit disappointed when I
- 1:27Speaker 2: saw it to start. I think just because that kind
- 1:31Speaker 2: of Marketing in general, I had hoped maybe too optimistically
- 1:35Speaker 2: that as a society, we'd moved away from that a
- 1:38Speaker 2: little bit. You know, choosing to use women's bodies in
- 1:40Speaker 2: that way outside of a sporting context. I kind of
- 1:44Speaker 2: hoped we'd moved away from that, but obviously we haven't.
- 1:49Speaker 2: And then from a sport context, I thought it was
- 1:51Speaker 2: unfortunate that given all of the fantastic female athletes they
- 1:54Speaker 2: could have chosen to use, you can bet on female sport,
- 1:57Speaker 2: on women's sports.
- 2:00Speaker 4: They chose not to. I found that a little bit disappointing.
- 2:03Speaker 1: We played the post you made on Instagram responding to
- 2:06Speaker 1: the ad. How did that come about?
- 2:10Speaker 2: Honestly, I'd seen a lot of my peers, a lot
- 2:12Speaker 2: of female athletes posting about this, and I really saw
- 2:15Speaker 2: it as an opportunity to kind of showcase what female
- 2:19Speaker 2: athletes can do and what our bodies can do and.
- 2:21Speaker 4: The kind of experiences we have being women in sport.
- 2:24Speaker 2: I've had such a positive experience throughout my sporting career.
- 2:27Speaker 4: I've had so many great friends.
- 2:29Speaker 2: I've created so many great memories and gained so many
- 2:34Speaker 2: skills and I saw it really as an opportunity to
- 2:36Speaker 2: showcase this in in light of kind of seeing a
- 2:41Speaker 2: version of sport that doesn't represent me and doesn't represent
- 2:45Speaker 2: what I stand for and what I think 99.99% of
- 2:50Speaker 2: female athletes believe to be our experience.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Last time I checked, your Instagram post has been liked
- 2:56Speaker 1: by more than 30,000 people, and there are lots of
- 2:59Speaker 1: positive comments. But, of course, there's some critical ones, some
- 3:03Speaker 1: not particularly thoughtful and critical. But then there's a thread,
- 3:07Speaker 1: and I'll give you an example of this and get
- 3:08Speaker 1: your response. Somebody said to you, the ad is for betting,
- 3:12Speaker 1: not women's sports, not even about women.
- 3:15Speaker 4: It's just an ad.
- 3:16Speaker 1: How would you respond to that?
- 3:20Speaker 2: You know, I think there's a certain narrative around some
- 3:22Speaker 2: of this stuff where people say, it's just this, it's
- 3:25Speaker 2: just that, it's not that serious. I think we saw
- 3:27Speaker 2: that with certain things that happened during the Olympics, certain
- 3:30Speaker 2: things that happened.
- 3:31Speaker 4: People said, it's just, it's not that serious. But it
- 3:33Speaker 4: is that serious.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Women and girls have very different experiences in sport than men.
- 3:39Speaker 2: One in five girls will drop out of sport as
- 3:41Speaker 2: a teenager. Two in five report having comments about their
- 3:45Speaker 2: appearance negatively impact their decision to participate. only 19% of
- 3:52Speaker 2: Olympic coaches for Canada in Paris were women. Like, it
- 3:56Speaker 2: really is that serious. There are almost no female photographers
- 3:59Speaker 2: at the Milan Olympics. Like, if you look across sport
- 4:03Speaker 2: in general, how many women are in leadership roles? How
- 4:05Speaker 2: many women are kind of taking some of these roles
- 4:10Speaker 2: that traditionally went to men?
- 4:11Speaker 4: Almost none, right? So it really is that serious.
- 4:14Speaker 2: And it's not to me necessarily about the piece of
- 4:17Speaker 2: media that prompted this, but... you know, it's kind of
- 4:20Speaker 2: about sport in general and the world in general. And
- 4:24Speaker 2: if one positive thing can come from it, I think
- 4:26Speaker 2: it's that people are talking about what it's like to
- 4:28Speaker 2: be a woman in sport and what it's like to
- 4:30Speaker 2: work in the sports industry as a woman, right? So
- 4:35Speaker 2: obviously the piece of media that prompted this, not the
- 4:37Speaker 2: most tasteful thing I've ever seen. However, I think it's
- 4:40Speaker 2: great that now it's given so many of us a
- 4:43Speaker 2: platform to talk about the reality right now and what
- 4:46Speaker 2: it's like to be a woman or a girl participating
- 4:49Speaker 2: in sports.
- 4:50Speaker 1: You know, I was going to conclude this interview by
- 4:52Speaker 1: asking you what you hope would come out of this
- 4:54Speaker 1: back and forth, of this public debate, but you answered
- 4:57Speaker 1: it perfectly and eloquently with that last answer.
- 5:00Speaker 4: So let's leave it there.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Madeleine Skizis, multiple Canadian champion figure skater, thanks for speaking
- 5:05Speaker 1: with us.
- 5:07Speaker 4: Thanks so much. Thank you.