Latest / Andy Stanley Sermons / Andy Stanley - If Money Talked Part 2 Masters or Masters
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- 0:12Speaker 1: Uh huh uh huh. And then what he said, Oh man,
- 0:16Speaker 1: this is wild. That takes the cake right there. Oh,
- 0:22Speaker 1: I gotta go.
- 0:23Speaker 2: This is money.
- 0:24Speaker 1: What's your emergency? A fraud alert? Okay, where was the
- 0:28Speaker 1: money spent? Albuqarque? Yeah no, that's your sister's wedding gift
- 0:33Speaker 1: that you got her. Christ is a verdant and never
- 0:35Speaker 1: gets old in the land of money. Good morning, I
- 0:38Speaker 1: have money. Good morning, you've reached money.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Hello this money?
- 0:41Speaker 1: Oh No, I'm not all money. I'm just your money.
- 0:45Speaker 2: No, I'm not God. I mean some people think that
- 0:47Speaker 2: I'm God.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Kind of awkward by Karen.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Karen, what's wrong?
- 0:51Speaker 1: No, that's not the I r S. Karen. Do not
- 0:53Speaker 1: give them any information. Nope, You're not going to jail, Karen.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Don't give your social to anyone over the phone. Okay
- 1:00Speaker 1: unless it's me, JK. I already know what it is. Hey, Betsy,
- 1:03Speaker 1: this is Monny calling. Yeah. Yeah, well, I just figured
- 1:06Speaker 1: I call and check in. It's been three hundred and
- 1:07Speaker 1: six to two days since I heard from you. We
- 1:09Speaker 1: realize that things got complicated during tax season, but I
- 1:12Speaker 1: just want to make sure that we're still on good terms.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Hello.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Yes, I'm calling for Jim. This is money, Jim. I
- 1:20Speaker 1: know that's you. You just said this is Jim and
- 1:21Speaker 1: then you say Jim's not here.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Hello.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Hey, Karen, how many different streaming content services do you
- 1:29Speaker 1: subscribe to?
- 1:30Speaker 2: No, that's great.
- 1:30Speaker 1: I'm not saying you should feel guilty. I know that
- 1:32Speaker 1: cable is very expensive, but if you subscribe to every
- 1:36Speaker 1: single streaming service, it will actually be more expensive because
- 1:41Speaker 1: you're buying all of the content that exists. Karen, Hey, Becka, listen,
- 1:47Speaker 1: We're gonna have to cut back a little bit. There's
- 1:49Speaker 1: only so much self care that we can afford. Nails, yoga,
- 1:52Speaker 1: spa treatments, gym membership, hot air balloons, exfoliation via avocado toast.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Cricket?
- 2:01Speaker 1: Do we need cricket season tickets?
- 2:04Speaker 2: Balance check?
- 2:05Speaker 1: You bet you? I'm your money. Wow, I've never seen that.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Do you really not know how much you have in there? Okay?
- 2:19Speaker 2: Okay, we're doing a game.
- 2:21Speaker 1: You tell me how much you think you have. Okay, yes,
- 2:23Speaker 1: go ahead, Hia Hiah, Nope, you've got the ticket. Hi, Yes,
- 2:30Speaker 1: that's correct.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Name.
- 2:32Speaker 1: No, this is a great problem to have, Okay, because
- 2:35Speaker 1: now that you know.
- 2:36Speaker 2: There are places we can go, what I am writing
- 2:39Speaker 2: that down.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Whoa the adrenaline and never gets old, never gets hold,
- 2:43Speaker 1: I'm alive.
- 2:47Speaker 3: Welcome back to session two of If Money Talk. We're
- 2:50Speaker 3: asking the question what would money say if money could talk?
- 2:52Speaker 3: And we've discovered that what money would say actually matches
- 2:55Speaker 3: what Jesus did say when he did talk about money.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Now, if you remember and said one, I ask.
- 3:00Speaker 3: You, what would you do or what do you do
- 3:02Speaker 3: with your spare money, your extra money? And then I
- 3:05Speaker 3: went about proving to you that you actually have spare money,
- 3:08Speaker 3: or you had it anyway, because all of our money
- 3:11Speaker 3: is accounted for, right we either spend it or were
- 3:13Speaker 3: about to spend it, or we're paying off what we
- 3:15Speaker 3: spent it on a long time ago, or maybe we're
- 3:17Speaker 3: saving it for a vacation or a rainy day or retirement.
- 3:21Speaker 3: And I used a word to describe this destructive cycle,
- 3:24Speaker 3: and the word was, well, you'll remember greed. Greed, as
- 3:27Speaker 3: we discovered, is the assumption that everything that comes our
- 3:30Speaker 3: way is for our consumption, that every single dollar that
- 3:33Speaker 3: comes my way it's meant for me, every dollar that
- 3:35Speaker 3: comes your way it's meant for you. It's meant to
- 3:38Speaker 3: spend now or it's meant to save for later, so
- 3:40Speaker 3: you can spend it later.
- 3:41Speaker 2: But either way, it's for you, it's for me now.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Of course, Jesus disagreed with this whole idea. In fact,
- 3:46Speaker 3: he told us, and he did mince words, that life
- 3:49Speaker 3: does not consist, life does not consist in an abundance
- 3:53Speaker 3: of possessions. In other words, life is not about stuff.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Life is not about what you have. Life is not
- 3:59Speaker 3: a race for new or nicer, upgraded, renovated. Life is
- 4:03Speaker 3: so much more than that. And you know that.
- 4:05Speaker 2: And your money, Jesus said, is just a tool.
- 4:08Speaker 3: In fact, if money could talk, it would remind us
- 4:11Speaker 3: I can add meaning to your life, but I am
- 4:13Speaker 3: not the meaning of your life. Now, this week, we're
- 4:16Speaker 3: going to discuss a second thing. Our money might tell us.
- 4:19Speaker 3: If our money could actually talk, and if our money
- 4:21Speaker 3: could actually talk, it might tell us this, the moment
- 4:24Speaker 3: you think you own me, I actually own you.
- 4:28Speaker 2: The moment you think you own me, I actually own you.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Now, to illustrate this, I want us to look at
- 4:34Speaker 3: the way the typical American handles their finances. And this
- 4:38Speaker 3: is going to be a little bit disturbing. Here's a graph.
- 4:41Speaker 3: We can't talk about finances without using the graph. Right,
- 4:43Speaker 3: So here you go the why axis, the Y axis
- 4:47Speaker 3: is actually your money, and the X axis.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Is actually your time, your lifetime.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Now, hopefully in your lifetime your income will look something
- 4:56Speaker 3: like this, and for many of us, our spending will
- 4:59Speaker 3: look something well, it'll look something like this. The truth is,
- 5:02Speaker 3: most of us allow our income to actually match or
- 5:06Speaker 3: drive our spending. In other words, if you make forty
- 5:09Speaker 3: five thousand dollars a year, you're going to spend forty
- 5:12Speaker 3: five thousand dollars a year. If you make fifty five
- 5:14Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year, spend it one hundred thousand dollars
- 5:17Speaker 3: a year. Spend it two hundred thousand dollars a year.
- 5:20Speaker 3: Spend it two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year,
- 5:23Speaker 3: to which you may respond, not me, If I made
- 5:25Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars a year, I would save a
- 5:27Speaker 3: lot of it.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Maybe, but probably not.
- 5:31Speaker 3: I say probably not, because your current habit would follow
- 5:35Speaker 3: you right up the pay scale. And that's not the
- 5:38Speaker 3: only thing that would follow you. Financial pressure would follow
- 5:41Speaker 3: you as well, which will come as a shock because
- 5:43Speaker 3: you think, if I made that much money, how could
- 5:45Speaker 3: I possibly have any financial pressure, well, you'd be surprised
- 5:49Speaker 3: people who make that much money. But if spend it all,
- 5:52Speaker 3: you know, car payments, big mortgage, second mortgage, they feel
- 5:55Speaker 3: extraordinary financial pressure. For some of you, this is your story, right,
- 6:00Speaker 3: You are making more money than you've ever made, and
- 6:03Speaker 3: you feel as much financial pressure or more as you've
- 6:06Speaker 3: ever felt.
- 6:07Speaker 2: In fact, it's worse, right.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Because you see, if you lose a fifty five thousand
- 6:11Speaker 3: dollars a year job, you can go find one of those.
- 6:14Speaker 2: You lose a two.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year job, or maybe
- 6:17Speaker 3: a four hundred thousand dollars a year job, you know,
- 6:20Speaker 3: good luck, right, those jobs are few and far between.
- 6:24Speaker 3: The more money people make, if they're spending follows their income,
- 6:27Speaker 3: the more pressure they actually feel. Now, for some of us,
- 6:32Speaker 3: the graph actually looks more like this, right, our spending
- 6:36Speaker 3: actually exceeds our income. In fact, sometimes it's because income drops,
- 6:41Speaker 3: maybe you were laid off, or you decided to leave
- 6:43Speaker 3: your job or change careers. But often it's because we
- 6:47Speaker 3: spend and borrow until we're upside down. And the next thing,
- 6:50Speaker 3: you know, you don't just have a money problem, you
- 6:53Speaker 3: have well you have all kinds of problems. You have
- 6:55Speaker 3: a marriage problem. Every conversation is about money, right, how
- 6:58Speaker 3: could you? Or why did you didn't we already or
- 7:01Speaker 3: didn't we talk about that? Lots of folks with lots
- 7:04Speaker 3: of stuff have lots of financial pressure. You see, when
- 7:08Speaker 3: your life is like this, you actually become a slave.
- 7:12Speaker 3: You have purchased or borrowed your way into slavery. Visa
- 7:16Speaker 3: American Express, a student loan.
- 7:19Speaker 2: They're actually your master. Now.
- 7:21Speaker 3: They don't want to be your master. That's not why
- 7:22Speaker 3: they're in business. They're in business to facilitate your happiness,
- 7:26Speaker 3: to make things easier for you, to help you get
- 7:28Speaker 3: through school or.
- 7:29Speaker 2: Maybe own a home.
- 7:30Speaker 3: But when your personal finances look like this, they become
- 7:35Speaker 3: your masters.
- 7:36Speaker 2: And you know what, you hate them.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Worse, you don't even know who them is to hate,
- 7:41Speaker 3: and they don't know who you are either. You know what,
- 7:43Speaker 3: You're just an account number. If you don't believe me,
- 7:45Speaker 3: call them, tell them your name. And what's the next
- 7:48Speaker 3: question they ask? What's your account number? You're a number,
- 7:52Speaker 3: not a name. And worse, you're a slave. You can't
- 7:55Speaker 3: buy this, you can't drive that, you can't vacation here,
- 7:58Speaker 3: your kids can't go to school.
- 8:00Speaker 2: They're right.
- 8:00Speaker 3: I mean, who's running your life? People that you don't
- 8:03Speaker 3: even know. Companies you don't even work for, the mortgage company,
- 8:06Speaker 3: the credit union. You're a slave to a group of
- 8:08Speaker 3: people you don't even know. And worst of all, you
- 8:12Speaker 3: did this to yourself. It's why money would say, if
- 8:16Speaker 3: our money could talk, It's why our money would warn us.
- 8:18Speaker 3: The moment you think you own me, the moment you
- 8:21Speaker 3: think you get to do whatever you want to with me,
- 8:24Speaker 3: I actually I actually own you now. Luckily Jesus addresses this,
- 8:29Speaker 3: and spoiler alert, according to Jesus, we don't actually own
- 8:33Speaker 3: our money. It's not actually ours, but we think it is,
- 8:36Speaker 3: and of course we do.
- 8:37Speaker 2: I mean, why wouldn't we think about the words we use.
- 8:39Speaker 3: You earned it, you made it, you put in the hours,
- 8:44Speaker 3: your name is on the paycheck, it was deposited into
- 8:46Speaker 3: your account. So of course we think we own this stuff,
- 8:49Speaker 3: to which our money and our stuff might reply, Hey,
- 8:52Speaker 3: but I'll still be here when you're gone. This is
- 8:54Speaker 3: how we know we're not owners. We leave it all behind.
- 8:58Speaker 3: We don't own it. We manage it, and we only
- 9:02Speaker 3: manage it for a little while, which begs the question,
- 9:06Speaker 3: manage it for who? And Jesus answered that question for
- 9:10Speaker 3: us in a parable. Now it's a parable that you
- 9:13Speaker 3: might have heard before, and so try it to allow
- 9:16Speaker 3: your mind to rush to the end.
- 9:17Speaker 2: But here's a.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Parable Jesus taught that really lays the foundation for where
- 9:21Speaker 3: we're going in this session. Here's what he said. He
- 9:23Speaker 3: said again, it will be like a man going on
- 9:26Speaker 3: a journey who called his servants and he entrusted his
- 9:31Speaker 3: wealth to them. Now, in a parable, there's always a
- 9:34Speaker 3: God figure, and then there's always an Us figure. Somebody
- 9:38Speaker 3: in the parable represents the folks in Jesus audience, and
- 9:41Speaker 3: somebody in the parable represents God the Father. And if
- 9:44Speaker 3: you read this parable, if you read the whole parable
- 9:46Speaker 3: in context, it becomes very clear that the wealthy man,
- 9:49Speaker 3: the one who's going on a journey and and trust
- 9:51Speaker 3: his wealth to his servants, he represents God and the
- 9:54Speaker 3: servants to whom the wealth is entrusted. Well, that's me
- 9:57Speaker 3: and that's you, he continues, and again, it will be
- 10:00Speaker 3: like a man who goes on a journey who calls
- 10:03Speaker 3: his servants to him, and he entrusted his wealth to them. Now,
- 10:07Speaker 3: notice he doesn't give them his wealth. This wasn't alone.
- 10:11Speaker 3: He just let them manage his money for him for.
- 10:13Speaker 2: A little while while he was gone.
- 10:15Speaker 3: And what percentage of the money did the servants own, well,
- 10:19Speaker 3: zero percent. What percentage did the Master own?
- 10:22Speaker 2: All of it? It was all his.
- 10:24Speaker 3: And this is important. In fact, this is actually the
- 10:27Speaker 3: point of the parable. Jesus continues to one, he gave
- 10:30Speaker 3: you may remember this, five bags of gold. To another
- 10:33Speaker 3: he gave two bags of gold, and to another he
- 10:36Speaker 3: gave one bag each according to his ability. And then
- 10:40Speaker 3: he the Master left to go on his journey. So essentially,
- 10:44Speaker 3: the Master gets his guys together. He hands each of
- 10:46Speaker 3: them a portion of his wealth, and he says, while
- 10:49Speaker 3: I'm gone, I expect you to do with my wealth
- 10:52Speaker 3: what I would do with my wealth. I want you
- 10:54Speaker 3: to manage it the way you think I would manage it.
- 10:57Speaker 3: And when I return, you'll have an opportunity to report
- 11:00Speaker 3: on how you did. Now, if you know this parable,
- 11:03Speaker 3: you know what happens next. When he returns, he discovers
- 11:06Speaker 3: that they all didn't manage his money the same way. Right,
- 11:09Speaker 3: Two of these three guys they did really well. In fact,
- 11:11Speaker 3: they doubled their Master's money. One of them doesn't.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Do quite so well. He buries it.
- 11:17Speaker 3: Jesus continues, after a long time, After a long time,
- 11:21Speaker 3: the master of those servants returned and he settled accounts
- 11:25Speaker 3: with them. And this is where the point of the
- 11:28Speaker 3: parable becomes oh so clear. The servants didn't get to
- 11:32Speaker 3: keep the money they'd been managing. They didn't get to
- 11:35Speaker 3: keep the extra money they'd made on their master's money.
- 11:38Speaker 2: It all went back to the master.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Why because one hundred percent of it belonged to the
- 11:43Speaker 3: master and zero percent belonged to the servants. They were managers,
- 11:48Speaker 3: they weren't owners. And when we read this parable, there's
- 11:51Speaker 3: a tendency to get all caught up in the unfairness.
- 11:53Speaker 3: I mean, one guy got five, another guy got two,
- 11:56Speaker 3: one only had one.
- 11:57Speaker 2: In fact, some of you were kind of stuck there
- 11:59Speaker 2: right now.
- 12:00Speaker 3: You look around the world, you look around your community,
- 12:02Speaker 3: you look at your friends, and you think it's just
- 12:04Speaker 3: not fair. I worked just as hard as he does,
- 12:06Speaker 3: I worked just as hard as she does. His salaries
- 12:09Speaker 3: twice as big as mine. I mean, if I had
- 12:11Speaker 3: that much money, if I had that opportunity. But Jesus says, no,
- 12:14Speaker 3: that's not the point. The point of this parable is
- 12:16Speaker 3: simply this. It's not the amount of money that each
- 12:19Speaker 3: of these servants was asked to manage that was outside
- 12:22Speaker 3: of their control. The issue wasn't how much they managed,
- 12:25Speaker 3: it's what they did with what they were asked to manage.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Now, think about this.
- 12:30Speaker 3: If you sat down with your financial planner or with
- 12:32Speaker 3: a financial planner who was managing your money, and you
- 12:35Speaker 3: asked to see where your financial planner had invested your money,
- 12:39Speaker 3: and he or she said, well, you.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Know, I'm not really that organized and I.
- 12:42Speaker 3: Don't really keep track of all those details. But it
- 12:45Speaker 3: seems to me, Well, as soon as a financial planner says,
- 12:49Speaker 3: it seems to me, it's time to find the new
- 12:52Speaker 3: financial planner, right, because when you manage someone else's money,
- 12:55Speaker 3: you are responsible and you are accountable, responsible, and accountable.
- 13:01Speaker 2: How about you?
- 13:02Speaker 3: Do you feel responsible and accountable for how you are
- 13:04Speaker 3: managing God's wealth, the wealth that he has entrusted to you,
- 13:09Speaker 3: or are you the kind of financial planner that God
- 13:12Speaker 3: would have to fire? I mean, could you give an
- 13:14Speaker 3: account of where your money's going, where it's gone or
- 13:18Speaker 3: is it just gone? If all of this it seems
- 13:20Speaker 3: a bit overwhelming, No worries We've got a couple more
- 13:23Speaker 3: weeks to talk about it, and this week we're going
- 13:25Speaker 3: to do something super specific to help you focus on
- 13:27Speaker 3: this principle. We're going to spy on our money together.
- 13:31Speaker 3: That's right, we are all going to spy on our money,
- 13:33Speaker 3: and we're not going to establish a budget. We're just
- 13:35Speaker 3: going to keep track of where we typically send it
- 13:38Speaker 3: and spend it. In your workbook. There's actually a tool
- 13:42Speaker 3: to help you do that all week long. Now, you
- 13:44Speaker 3: may be thinking to yourself, or perhaps you even leaned
- 13:47Speaker 3: over and whispered to the person next to you.
- 13:48Speaker 2: You know, there's an app for that.
- 13:49Speaker 3: I don't need to use something in the workbook, and
- 13:51Speaker 3: there is, In fact, there are several apps for that,
- 13:53Speaker 3: and feel free to download one of those and use
- 13:55Speaker 3: it this week. But you may be thinking something else.
- 13:58Speaker 3: You may be thinking, Andy, I don't need to do this.
- 14:00Speaker 3: All of this shows up on my MX bill. I
- 14:02Speaker 3: don't need to track it. It basically tracks itself. But
- 14:06Speaker 3: that's not the point of this week's exercise. Knowing you
- 14:10Speaker 3: can know is not the same as knowing right. The
- 14:12Speaker 3: fact that you have access to how much you've spent
- 14:14Speaker 3: in different areas is different than sitting down and looking
- 14:18Speaker 3: categorically at how much you've spent and where you spent it.
- 14:21Speaker 3: So this week, I want you to look. I want
- 14:24Speaker 3: you to keep track. I want you to spy on
- 14:26Speaker 3: your money, because when it comes to money, we should
- 14:29Speaker 3: never find ourselves saying, well, well it seems to me,
- 14:33Speaker 3: or I'm not really sure, it seems like last time.
- 14:36Speaker 3: I mean, let's face it. A certain amount comes in
- 14:39Speaker 3: and then we send it places. Right, a certain amount
- 14:41Speaker 3: comes in and then you or you and your husband,
- 14:43Speaker 3: you and your wife, you decide where it goes. So
- 14:46Speaker 3: when it comes to money, there should be no mystery.
- 14:49Speaker 3: There's mystery when it comes to love and romance. There's
- 14:52Speaker 3: mystery when it comes to kids. In fact, there's a
- 14:54Speaker 3: lot of mystery when they become middle schoolers and high schoolers.
- 14:56Speaker 3: But when it comes to knowing where your money went,
- 14:59Speaker 3: there should be no mystery. And this is true whether
- 15:02Speaker 3: you have a little or a lot. Remember the parable
- 15:05Speaker 3: how much money each servant was managing was irrelevant.
- 15:08Speaker 2: What mattered was what they did with what they were.
- 15:11Speaker 3: Asked to manage. Jesus could not have been clearer. The
- 15:14Speaker 3: reason you should keep track of where your money is
- 15:17Speaker 3: going is that it's not your money. You're a manager,
- 15:21Speaker 3: not an owner, so you should be knowing where all
- 15:24Speaker 3: your master's money is going