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Feminist Movie Wednesday: Prey · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff
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Speaker 1: I never told you a protection of I heart radio,
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Speaker 1: And welcome to a feminist movie Wednesday. I think, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it might be a Friday, but I'm pretty sure it's
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Speaker 1: a Wednesday. I mean, who knows when you're listening to it,
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Speaker 1: though it could be a Friday or Tuesday. What what,
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Speaker 1: You can have feminist movie time whenever you like. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and today we are talking about a very recent movie.
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Speaker 1: It came out this year, in fact, Pray. So there
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Speaker 1: will be an intense spoilers. I don't know if that's
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Speaker 1: the word I want to use with that's the word
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Speaker 1: that we're going with. There's gonna be a lot of spoilers. Yes, yes, yes, yes, um.
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Speaker 1: And you can see our Mary Sue episode for more information. Actually,
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Speaker 1: we are going to talk about that a little bit
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Speaker 1: more and why that's relevant to this conversation in this episode.
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Speaker 1: But we did talk about it, and um our episode
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Speaker 1: on Mary Sue is where I defended them at like
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Speaker 1: she did. She had a lot of thoughts, So I
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Speaker 1: thoughts about Mary, oh my gosh, and I will be
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Speaker 1: talking about them in this episode. But yeah, I love
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Speaker 1: this movie. I love it. Um. I watched it recently
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Speaker 1: for Halloween with the first time fewer. We had such
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Speaker 1: a fun time. I watched it last night in preparation
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Speaker 1: for this, and then I actually watched it at your
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Speaker 1: place for the first time, right when it came out
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Speaker 1: with surround sound, and whoa, I was jumping all about.
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Speaker 1: I was very very nervous. Um yeah, with the surround sound,
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Speaker 1: especially uh. And then I was also incredibly obnoxious because
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Speaker 1: there's a scene where people speak French and it's not
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Speaker 1: subtitled and was appropriate. I was appropriately tipsy enough where
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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a genius and I will translate
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Speaker 1: this you yes, so sorry. Came back sober a week
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Speaker 1: later to let us know she's still a genius because correct,
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Speaker 1: that does not have subtitles, and so what would you do
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Speaker 1: do with that? Like me? That was that came later.
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Speaker 1: So it was a good friend. I'm such a lovely
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Speaker 1: fun friend. I loved it. I wasn't even a part
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Speaker 1: of it. I was just told yes, because you were like,
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Speaker 1: I will watch this later. I am going to bed.
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Speaker 1: I am sleepy, but you have seen it. I have.
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Speaker 1: I really liked it. So here's my thing about alien
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Speaker 1: horror films. I'm not a huge fan of sci fi.
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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of fantasy. I think I've talked
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Speaker 1: about this before. Anything gruesome, I'm not a huge fan either. Like,
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Speaker 1: if it's like kitchy gruesome, I can get past it. Bodies, bodies, bodies,
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Speaker 1: perfect example of kitchi gruesome. Um, even scream, but like
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Speaker 1: the New Yer one was still like as a little much, um,
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Speaker 1: So I don't do that. I don't do like torture stuff.
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Speaker 1: I don't do really like intense murder things. So pray
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Speaker 1: being along the lines of the Predator, I've never been
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Speaker 1: a huge fan, so I'm like, I don't care. But
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Speaker 1: then the way everybody kind of was so hyped by
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Speaker 1: the characters and like the nuance of it was like, okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm down, um, and I do love that type of
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Speaker 1: So it took me a minute to get convinced to
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Speaker 1: watch it. As much as I do love horror, I
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Speaker 1: don't love Gore. So I was like, okay, cool, cool,
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Speaker 1: cool um, And now like I'm a huge fan. So yes,
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Speaker 1: I did watch it. Yeah, I enjoyed it very much,
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Speaker 1: So I really recommend it. Yeah, I'm going to talk
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Speaker 1: about how much I recommend it throughout, so just go
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Speaker 1: ahead and into um so plots. The plot Pray is
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Speaker 1: he has a sci fi horror movie with the historical bent,
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Speaker 1: and it is out of the Predator franchise, which I
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Speaker 1: know I mentioned before, but I had a great love
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Speaker 1: of when I was a child. I watched it at
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Speaker 1: my sixteenth birthday. That's what we're talking about here. Uh.
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Speaker 1: It is the fifth one, but it's a prequel to
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Speaker 1: all of them. Uh. It debuted on Hulu in two
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Speaker 1: and it was its number one debut of all time.
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Speaker 1: It's still pretty high. They are apparently yes record, Yes,
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Speaker 1: yes es, Yes, you can still stream it. They're currently
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Speaker 1: not a sponsor, but has been in the past. Um
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Speaker 1: just fans, Just fans. It was directed by Dan Tratchenberg
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Speaker 1: and written by Patrick Eisen and the largely indigenous cast
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Speaker 1: stars Amber mid Thunder to Go to Beaver's Dane, di
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Speaker 1: Rie Grow, Michelle thrush Storm and Kit, Julian Black, Antelope
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Speaker 1: and Bennette Taylor Um. The creators originally pitched it as
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Speaker 1: a film that would quote follow a Comanche woman who
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Speaker 1: goes against gender norms and traditions to become a warrior,
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Speaker 1: which I would say is a pretty good description of
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Speaker 1: what happened. One of the producers. I think it's Jane Myers,
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Speaker 1: but forgive me if I miss pronounced it, and let
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Speaker 1: me know. Um is a member of both the Comanche
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Speaker 1: and Blackfeet nations. It was shot in English and the
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Speaker 1: Comanche language, and it is the first feature film to
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Speaker 1: have a full Comanche language dub, which we're going to
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Speaker 1: talk about later. Um. It was incredibly well received, with
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Speaker 1: many putting it at or above the original in terms
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Speaker 1: of quality. People praised the acting, the cinematography, the attention
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Speaker 1: to history and detail, the pacing. Some compared mid Thunder,
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Speaker 1: who plays the main character Nauru too Aliens Ellen Ripley.
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Speaker 1: It's fun and tense and moving and beautiful. My friend
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Speaker 1: who I watched it with every Halloween said, this isn't
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Speaker 1: just a good Predator movie. This is like a really
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Speaker 1: good movie. Uh. And it does work as a standalone,
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Speaker 1: Like you don't have to see the other Predator movies
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Speaker 1: for this to work, and I have not, and I
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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. See see. Uh. They did make a great
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Speaker 1: effort to be historically accurate. The cast and crew were
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Speaker 1: given this huge binder of info around that including like
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Speaker 1: time appropriate toothbrushes like Nauru. There's a scene where you
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Speaker 1: see her using one. Um also wanted to shout out
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Speaker 1: that it was composed by Sarah Schachner. Uh, and we
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Speaker 1: know that women in the space of composing are pretty rare. Um.
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Speaker 1: The flute and vocals was done by Native American musician
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Speaker 1: Robert Merbelle. But I actually really like the music. It's
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Speaker 1: very intense. A lot of it is since very intense. Yes, Um. So.
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Speaker 1: The film takes place in North American Northern Grape Plains
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Speaker 1: area in seventeen nineteen. It follows Naru played by mid Thunder,
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Speaker 1: and her kada and companion, who, by the way, for
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Speaker 1: those Georgia came from the same animal shelter slash lifeline
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Speaker 1: center that my dog came from. Yes, and we're gonna
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Speaker 1: be talking about Coco. Her name is a little bit
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Speaker 1: as a bonus at the end. So yes, but I
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Speaker 1: still love it. I'll look at anyway. So Naru is
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Speaker 1: a young command woman who has been trained in the
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Speaker 1: ways of healing, but has a passion and talent for hunting,
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Speaker 1: one she shares with her brother Tabe. Her and Tabe
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Speaker 1: have a close relationship and Tabe supports her while also
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Speaker 1: calling out what he sees as her flaws and pushing
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Speaker 1: her to be better. Yeah, but he's also showing her
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Speaker 1: up a lot. Very early on, it becomes clear that
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Speaker 1: Naru's strategy involves more patients and observation than Tabe's, though
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Speaker 1: this is coupled with Tabe's longer experience because the community
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Speaker 1: is pushing Naru to give up on hunting and accept
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Speaker 1: her more acceptable position as a healer as a woman,
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Speaker 1: which she is also good at she learned from her grandmother,
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Speaker 1: but still so. Toby described his right of passage, where
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Speaker 1: you hunt those that would hunt you, and believe she
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Speaker 1: might not be able to do it. He kills the
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Speaker 1: hawk before she can, though she was waiting for it
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Speaker 1: to circle back for easier retrieval, showing her up like
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Speaker 1: I said, Yeah, Well, there's so many signs throughout where
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Speaker 1: she's like, she's waiting. She's right patient and observed, and
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Speaker 1: she was trying to make it easier to retrieve it,
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Speaker 1: but he shot it, so now they have to go
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Speaker 1: across the river to get it. Naru is determined to
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Speaker 1: prove herself. She goes out with Sadi, who, yes, this
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Speaker 1: this dog Coco that we mentioned to track a deer,
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Speaker 1: and she does like these awesome kick sliding moves. They're
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Speaker 1: hard to describe, but you've got to see it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's amazing. When she sees this fiery light in the sky.
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Speaker 1: The audience, or I would assume most of us maybe
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Speaker 1: not man because you haven't seen predator, but you know,
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Speaker 1: we know that it's predators. But Nara believes it is
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Speaker 1: the legendary thunderbird, and it's a sign that she should
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Speaker 1: go on her own right of passage to prove that
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Speaker 1: she is a hunter. And this opportunity to do so
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Speaker 1: calms up when one of the members of the tribe
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Speaker 1: is taken by a mountain lion, and she convinces her
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Speaker 1: brother to let her go on the hunts, and he agrees,
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Speaker 1: but it's more like, i'll let you track. You're a
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Speaker 1: good tracker, um. I'll let you if he needs medical help.
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Speaker 1: You're really good at that. Um. The other men in
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Speaker 1: the group are extremely doubtful of her skills vocally, uh,
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Speaker 1: pretty much outright undermining her and mocking her. One of
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Speaker 1: the men says, we won't be gone long enough to
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Speaker 1: need a cook m an. So they find the hunter
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Speaker 1: and Naru treats him, including giving him something that lowers
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Speaker 1: his body temperature. She is pressured to return with him
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Speaker 1: to their settlement while Tabe goes on to hunt this
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Speaker 1: mountain lion, which by the way, is really scared looking.
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Speaker 1: When Naru discovers a snake that has been scanned and
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Speaker 1: split along with huge prints, and it goes back to
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Speaker 1: find Tabe with another member of the tribe who's really
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Speaker 1: giving her a hard time. Because they just all give
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Speaker 1: her a hard time. Naro convinced this tab to go
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Speaker 1: with her plan of setting a trap for the mountain
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Speaker 1: lion in spite of the opposition from the other men,
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Speaker 1: but Tabe tells her this is her rite of passage
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Speaker 1: and that she should tell him this is as far
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Speaker 1: as you go and that's it. Yeah, which is a
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Speaker 1: recurring thing that comes up through this movie. So um,
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Speaker 1: basically you're telling the creature that's hunting you in this
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Speaker 1: rite of passage like this is it for you, This
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Speaker 1: is the end of the line. Um. So her and
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Speaker 1: the man hassling her waiting a tree after he tells
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Speaker 1: her a hunter doesn't wait, he says, he he hunts um.
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Speaker 1: And if you're scared, go back to camp. Where you belong,
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Speaker 1: and he continues to hassle her and told the mountain
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Speaker 1: lion jumps into the tree, it kills him. Um Naru
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Speaker 1: faces off with it. There's a really cool like spitting
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Speaker 1: camera scene at this part, and amazing balancing skills from her.
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Speaker 1: By the way, whoa when predator he's off in the
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Speaker 1: woods hunting something, doing something, so he distracts her with
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Speaker 1: some sounds and lights in the distance, so she falls
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Speaker 1: out of the tree, hits her head and passes out.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, by the way, this whole thing we've been
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Speaker 1: describing has been cut in with scenes a predator hunting
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Speaker 1: animals and so a very brief rundown of predator as
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Speaker 1: someone who has seen all of the movies Predators. Whole
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Speaker 1: deal is that he has to find the most dangerous
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Speaker 1: predator slash hunter in an ecosystem and kill it for
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Speaker 1: his own rights of passage. And I do think most
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Speaker 1: of them are men, although I think there is some women.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, Um he watches and assesses a threat. So
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Speaker 1: when you see kind of the like graphics from his
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Speaker 1: helmet is basically like calculating how big of a threat
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Speaker 1: they are. Um learns their moves takes them out. Uh,
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Speaker 1: And yeah, he has a lot of a lot of
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Speaker 1: tech and is invisible, which I think is kind of
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Speaker 1: a cheat, but whatever. Um. Also he collects skulls in
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Speaker 1: their spines and he puts them on the ship. And
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Speaker 1: that's how you prove that you did you succeeded in
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Speaker 1: your write of passage. But yeah, basically you're trying. He's
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Speaker 1: trying to find the top who who can I take out?
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Speaker 1: It's going to really prove I I am number one
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Speaker 1: in this hunting game. And I will say the entire
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Speaker 1: times like, this is not fair. There's nothing about this
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Speaker 1: that he has all this technology that has nothing to
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Speaker 1: do with They don't have any of this, And I'm
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Speaker 1: like and also his armors piers from come on yeah,
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Speaker 1: oh yeah. I mean he's a challenge. It's an interesting
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Speaker 1: character because he doesn't like in an alien versus predator,
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Speaker 1: which he has to have seen. Uh, Like, he won't
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Speaker 1: kill somebody who has cancer. Like there's a bunch of
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Speaker 1: rules that they follow. But at the same time, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: but right, but you're kind of using all this technology anyway. Um.
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Speaker 1: When Naru wakes, she has a massive headache and her
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Speaker 1: brother has analyced as war chief. After he returns from
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Speaker 1: killing the Mountain Lion, has the mounta Lion carcass uh
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Speaker 1: Naru confronts him, trying to convince him there's a threat
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Speaker 1: like they've never seen out there, but Tabe tells her
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Speaker 1: that she's done, that he had to carry her unconscious
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Speaker 1: body back, that she wasn't fit to be a hunter,
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Speaker 1: she couldn't finish the job. M m well. Determined to
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Speaker 1: find proof of this thread, and Naru goes off with
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Speaker 1: Sorry as she comes across an entire field of skinned
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Speaker 1: buffaloes pretty gruesome. Confused and unsettled by the needless waste
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Speaker 1: that she says a prayer over them, and then she
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Speaker 1: practices with her axe and attaches a hand and woven
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Speaker 1: chord to it for a quick retrieval. Very smart. She
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Speaker 1: falls into a bog and almost drowns in it, but
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Speaker 1: it's able to pull herself out with this axe and chord. Hello.
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Speaker 1: And then she and Sorry are attacked by a bear
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Speaker 1: and are forced to flee uh not really, take shelter
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Speaker 1: in the water under a beaver dam and witnesses an
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Speaker 1: invisible creature take on and kill the bear. All you see,
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Speaker 1: it's like wavy figures taking on. She frantically swims away
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Speaker 1: downstream where she's kept her to buy some camache. UH
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Speaker 1: sent to get her. They fight, and she puts up
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Speaker 1: a good fight before the men bind her, and she
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Speaker 1: tries to tell them about the invisible threat, but they
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Speaker 1: ignore her until it the predator arrived and starts to
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Speaker 1: kill them all off because yeah know, they also put
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Speaker 1: up a good fight, but they die. Um. Predator doesn't
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Speaker 1: see Naru, now caught in a foothold trap, as a
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Speaker 1: threat and leaves her alive. But then the French colonizers
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Speaker 1: responsible for the skinning and slaughtering of the bison come around,
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Speaker 1: capture her and cage her. This is where any skills
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Speaker 1: come into play. Oh gosh, I was so frustrating. I apologize.
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Speaker 1: Um yeah, I think I was just so happy I remember,
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Speaker 1: um yeah. Because this is this following sequences largely in
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Speaker 1: unsubtitled French. Uh So they're just speaking in French, but
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Speaker 1: it's not there's no subtitles. But they do this. These
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Speaker 1: French colonizers ring out their interpreter to ask Naru about Predator,
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Speaker 1: who they have dealt with before and are trying to hunt. Um.
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Speaker 1: She won't cooperate, so they reveal that they have her brother,
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Speaker 1: tab A, and they torture him in front of her.
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Speaker 1: The pair are tied to a tree as bait for Predator.
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Speaker 1: Tabe tells her that her plan with the Mountain Lion worked,
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Speaker 1: that she weakened it and that's why he was able
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Speaker 1: to capture it and kill it. She in turn tells
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Speaker 1: him that Predator won't target them while they are bound,
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Speaker 1: like he doesn't hunt that way. There is an epic
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Speaker 1: battle scene of Predator using all of his outer space
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Speaker 1: gadgets to decimate the Frenchman while Onaru tells a story
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Speaker 1: that culminates in her saying she's smarter than a beaver. Basically,
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Speaker 1: it's like building up for you to think she's going
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Speaker 1: to cut off her own hands, but then she's like,
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Speaker 1: but I'm smarter than a Beaver's really satisfying. She uses
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Speaker 1: the foothold trap to cut their vines and free them.
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Speaker 1: Tabe goes to at a horse while now he returns
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Speaker 1: to the French encampment to rescue Sorry and expertly takes
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Speaker 1: out some freshman a long way. It's very beautifully choreographed
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Speaker 1: fight scene. Yes, delightful, so the interpreter from earlier is
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Speaker 1: now dying and begs for her help, promising he'll teach
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Speaker 1: her to use their firearms if she helps them. She
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Speaker 1: does so, giving him the same ingredient from earlier that
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Speaker 1: makes the temperature drop. She's unimpressed with a firearm and
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Speaker 1: how it works, but takes it, abandoning him when predator arrives.
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Speaker 1: You gotta do what you gotta do. She observes that
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Speaker 1: the predator can't seem to see the still alive interpreter,
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Speaker 1: realizing that that is because his body heat is low. However,
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Speaker 1: the interpreter accidentally a large predator to his presence, and
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Speaker 1: predator kills him and is about to kill Naru after
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Speaker 1: the firearm didn't run for her, when Tabe arrives on
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Speaker 1: a horse to distract him. Very sad, yes, I mean,
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Speaker 1: but also very skillfully, I may add, so yeah. They
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Speaker 1: work together to weaken predator, but predator kills tab A.
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Speaker 1: He uses his last action to give Nario a chance
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Speaker 1: to escape. However, Naru has observed how predators helmet targeting
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Speaker 1: system works and has an idea, so she tracks down
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Speaker 1: one of the surviving Frenchmen and uses him as bait
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Speaker 1: She eats that herb to lower her body temperature because
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Speaker 1: she's observed that Predator can't see if the body temperature
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Speaker 1: is liver before using the pistol to shoot off and
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Speaker 1: steal Predator's mask and also cuts off his arm and
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Speaker 1: rips off one of his mandibles. And the ensuing battle,
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Speaker 1: uh she tricks Predator into the box she'd almost died
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Speaker 1: in earlier and severely injures him. Predator uses his targeting
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Speaker 1: system against her, but Naru uses it against him via
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Speaker 1: his stolen face mask and the spear meant for Naru
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Speaker 1: kills Predator instead, and she tells him not one step further.
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Speaker 1: This is as far as you come. Um. She cuts
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Speaker 1: off Predator's head and returns to her camp carrying it,
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Speaker 1: her face mirrored with green blood, and she is named
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Speaker 1: the new war Chief. Uh. I will say as a
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Speaker 1: young girl looks on and just clearly like, oh wow,
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Speaker 1: I can be me. Oh my gosh, I love this movie.
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Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. Alright,
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about some themes here, and we're gonna
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Speaker 1: start with the whole idea of this kind of gender
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Speaker 1: norm about around being a warrior and then the Mary
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Speaker 1: Sue fall out that came from this. And one of
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Speaker 1: the things I really do like about this movie is
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Speaker 1: that it is Naru's story. It's not predators story. He's
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Speaker 1: in it. He's a villain. He has some cool scenes,
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Speaker 1: but it's definitely not about Predator, which I love. And
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Speaker 1: also I do like that there are so many things
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Speaker 1: throughout this movie where you see Naru's watching and waiting
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Speaker 1: and listening. I'm observing and learning from that, and how
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Speaker 1: that all pays off in the end, even though she's
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Speaker 1: being made fun of it constantly. That guy I was
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Speaker 1: talking about earlier, he was kind of always hasslinger. He said, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, a hunter hunts, they don't wait. But that
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Speaker 1: was her thing, that she was always observing, watching, waiting,
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Speaker 1: and that is why she was able to defeat Predator.
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Speaker 1: And I don't want to jump too much into the
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Speaker 1: Mary's secrety get but a lot of people were like, oh,
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Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger is so tough, so many muscles. Of course
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Speaker 1: he could beat Predator. That's not how he beat Predator.
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Speaker 1: He beat Predator after all of his crew was destroyed,
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Speaker 1: all of these manly army men were destroyed. He had
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Speaker 1: to learn and to watch him to observe. It's the
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Speaker 1: same thing. It's about hunting and watching and observing. UM.
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Speaker 1: So I think that that argument is just dismissing what
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Speaker 1: the original was about. He did not win that because
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Speaker 1: of his muscles or strength. He won that because he
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Speaker 1: observed and found weaknesses. And that's what she's doing, like
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Speaker 1: just so competent. Oh yes, and I do. There's a
20:44
Speaker 1: couple of scenes because I I saw some people, I
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Speaker 1: guess if I'm not making it clear. There was a
20:49
Speaker 1: huge backlash from mostly men on the internet about her
20:53
Speaker 1: after this came out, like she could there's no way
20:56
Speaker 1: she could have beat Predator, and some some of those
20:59
Speaker 1: arguments try to be like, well, we see so many
21:01
Speaker 1: instances of her failing. I would argue that one you've
21:04
Speaker 1: been mad if she had succeeded at everything, because that's
21:07
Speaker 1: what Mary Sue is. But anyway, but also that's when
21:11
Speaker 1: she's trying to do what these men are telling her
21:14
Speaker 1: to do, when she's just trying to do it without
21:16
Speaker 1: observing our watching. When she tries to do that, she
21:20
Speaker 1: misses um. She is is somebody who adapts UM and
21:27
Speaker 1: so like when she makes that retractable acts. Like she
21:30
Speaker 1: sees a problem with the acts, right, she makes it
21:34
Speaker 1: retractable with the cord, and then immediately after you see
21:38
Speaker 1: she's killed like, I don't know, five seven rabbits. So
21:43
Speaker 1: she's somebody who's like smart and cunning and very very capable,
21:49
Speaker 1: but is always adapting to what she's seeing, right, And
21:54
Speaker 1: also like the failures are not necessarily because she couldn't
21:58
Speaker 1: do it, It's because something was a mess. Yes, it's
22:02
Speaker 1: almost always predators in the background making noise. And I
22:05
Speaker 1: mean that's another point that I don't think we're going
22:07
Speaker 1: to go into too much in this, but we've talked
22:10
Speaker 1: about that before of the woman in horror often who's like, hey,
22:14
Speaker 1: I think something's wrong. Yeah, but she's like the warning everyone,
22:19
Speaker 1: Hey there's something bad out there. You are not listening,
22:21
Speaker 1: and they're all like, I'm not afraid of a bear,
22:23
Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm telling you, it's not a bear.
22:27
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like we're not talking about it,
22:31
Speaker 1: but paranormal activity. I watched it again, You're like the
22:33
Speaker 1: entire time, I'm the man. I can fight this goes,
22:35
Speaker 1: I can handle it. It's me. I can do this.
22:37
Speaker 1: I can take care of us. You did. Yeah, oh yeah,
22:42
Speaker 1: just like these men should. You did. Yeah, Like I said,
22:46
Speaker 1: I mean, if we disregard all the other ones, I
22:48
Speaker 1: think she would have been fine without him. He really
22:51
Speaker 1: screwed it up. But anyway, he sure did, He sure did.
22:55
Speaker 1: But yeah, she was um. She was just clearly competent
22:59
Speaker 1: and U people didn't listen to her. Or We're just like,
23:05
Speaker 1: but you're good at medicine, though, But you're good at that,
23:09
Speaker 1: and that's appropriate for for women, is that you should
23:13
Speaker 1: do this. But there I I do have a lot
23:16
Speaker 1: of instances of if I can just talk about how
23:19
Speaker 1: cool she is, uh like when she so there's so
23:24
Speaker 1: many things that I think when you're watching it the
23:26
Speaker 1: first time, you're just like, oh yeah, but if you
23:28
Speaker 1: actually kind of pay attention to the story and all
23:32
Speaker 1: of the seeds they planted and all the payoff that
23:34
Speaker 1: is there, Like she uses the foothold trap after witnessing it,
23:39
Speaker 1: like she uses the gun after witnessing it. She uses
23:42
Speaker 1: predators helmet after witnessing it, like she's always watching calculating learning.
23:50
Speaker 1: She leads him into land that she knows better than
23:53
Speaker 1: a foreign invader, which is the same for the French colonizers. Um.
23:59
Speaker 1: She does not give up, even when she fails, even
24:02
Speaker 1: when no one believes her, and even when no one
24:04
Speaker 1: thinks she can do it. She sees what you can't
24:08
Speaker 1: see even as the viewer. There's one scene where she's
24:11
Speaker 1: fighting all the French people. You're like, oh, that's the
24:15
Speaker 1: last guy, and there's a guy behind her, but you
24:17
Speaker 1: can't see her as the viewer, but she can and
24:21
Speaker 1: gets him, and it's just so satisfying, like it is
24:25
Speaker 1: hard earned badassness that she has, Like she has been
24:28
Speaker 1: doing this, she knows what she's doing, and just like
24:32
Speaker 1: the way she dodges and sees that quick reflexes. Um.
24:37
Speaker 1: I do think it's really interesting and purposeful take on
24:43
Speaker 1: what is the threat. Multiple times Predator has a chance
24:47
Speaker 1: to kill her and then doesn't because he doesn't view
24:51
Speaker 1: her as a threat. That's his whole thing. And a
24:52
Speaker 1: lot of times it's because she's in one way like
24:55
Speaker 1: entrapped or bound or something. But at least in one case,
24:58
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's just because he was yeah, which
25:03
Speaker 1: I think is really interesting because that's basically what the
25:06
Speaker 1: whole A lot of these men who were hunters were
25:09
Speaker 1: telling her and even some women. We're like, oh, you're
25:13
Speaker 1: just not a hunter, You're just not a threat. And
25:15
Speaker 1: even Predator was kind of like that, like yeah, and
25:22
Speaker 1: she even says I think at one point, like that's
25:24
Speaker 1: why he doesn't see me as this threat and that's
25:26
Speaker 1: why I can get him. Yeah, and she does have
25:29
Speaker 1: There's a lot of scenes where you see everyone telling
25:35
Speaker 1: her like, oh, you can't hunt, and that's why she says, like,
25:38
Speaker 1: that's why I want to do it. No one believes
25:39
Speaker 1: that I can. Um. And this is like her brother Predator,
25:44
Speaker 1: the French colonizers, everyone thinks they know better than her
25:48
Speaker 1: to different extents. Um. And it's also pretty rewarding to
25:53
Speaker 1: see both the French colonizers and the Predators tech like
25:59
Speaker 1: backfire on them. That's pretty I love the scene where
26:04
Speaker 1: they're all trying to reload their weapons out right. They
26:09
Speaker 1: deserved it. M m yeah. And and I mean this
26:13
Speaker 1: is like Predator is essentially saying she's less of a
26:16
Speaker 1: threat than a snake because he killed that snake, skin
26:18
Speaker 1: that snake, and he let her be so m hm uh.
26:27
Speaker 1: Here's a quote from Din of Geek addressing the idea
26:30
Speaker 1: that the command she couldn't have fought predator, which is
26:33
Speaker 1: again missing the point. And this is a lot of
26:34
Speaker 1: what came out of those like angry white dudes. At
26:36
Speaker 1: the end, the Commande are generally recognized perhaps the fiercest
26:40
Speaker 1: warrior culture among the Native American communities that lived among
26:43
Speaker 1: the Southern Plains. Historians even a tribute fear of the
26:46
Speaker 1: Commanche as creating the limited borders of both Bain and
26:49
Speaker 1: France's colonization projects in North America during the eighteenth century,
26:52
Speaker 1: and the wars between Texan settlers and the Commanche and
26:55
Speaker 1: the nineteenth century remained the stuff of legend right Definitely,
26:59
Speaker 1: Like as think of all the tribes, I've definitely heard
27:01
Speaker 1: the Comanche warrior more than any other. Not to negate that,
27:05
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that's one. I feel like it's
27:07
Speaker 1: legendary for sure. So Also a quote from Mashable, they say,
27:12
Speaker 1: when I tell you that Naru kicks ass, I don't
27:16
Speaker 1: think you'll understand quite how much ass she kicks. She's
27:19
Speaker 1: an ace with a tomahawk and a gifted tracker with
27:22
Speaker 1: an excellent canine companion to boot. On top of all that,
27:26
Speaker 1: Naru is smart. Her decisions such as fastening a rope
27:30
Speaker 1: to her tomahawk, so she's always able to pull it
27:32
Speaker 1: back to her consistently have satisfying narrative payoff. You want
27:37
Speaker 1: her to succeed, not just because she's praise the main character,
27:41
Speaker 1: but also because pray makes it abundantly clear how capable
27:45
Speaker 1: she is. And it's true, it's it's a whole build up,
27:48
Speaker 1: which is that weird, Like it's not a sud thing.
27:50
Speaker 1: You see her building up to all of her crafts,
27:53
Speaker 1: to being beyond good, which we've talked about with women
27:56
Speaker 1: in general and those of marginalized communities having to over
28:00
Speaker 1: of themselves. This is that narrative. Yeah, oh yeah, well
28:03
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a second um. But yeah, I
28:06
Speaker 1: mean it's too like you immediately are rooting for her um.
28:10
Speaker 1: At least that was my experience. I was like, oh,
28:12
Speaker 1: I am so in with you were amazing. I didn't
28:16
Speaker 1: love her killing rabbits, but I know you gotta eat,
28:18
Speaker 1: you gotta eat. She does become, as we said, the
28:20
Speaker 1: war chief in the end. And I love when her
28:23
Speaker 1: and tabe Air joking about like predator. You of all
28:26
Speaker 1: the right of passages, you could have gone with me,
28:32
Speaker 1: but it is that was her right of fauces, she
28:34
Speaker 1: cut off his head, comes back with the blood spirit on.
28:38
Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty good, and I do like that overall,
28:42
Speaker 1: it's an amalgamation of her knowledge and tracking, healing and
28:45
Speaker 1: hunting that gave her leverage to beat predator in the end. Like, uh,
28:50
Speaker 1: she was more well rounded outside of of gender norms,
28:54
Speaker 1: Like she couldn't have done it without her knowledge of medicine, right, Um,
28:59
Speaker 1: but she so couldn't have done it without our knowledge
29:01
Speaker 1: of hunting. Like I like that. It was that she's
29:04
Speaker 1: so skilled in all of these things that you know
29:07
Speaker 1: are gendered, but she's crossing those norms. Um. Yeah, but okay, yeah,
29:13
Speaker 1: let's talk about this Mary Sue Blacklash, which again you
29:16
Speaker 1: can see her the whole episode we did on Mary
29:19
Speaker 1: Sue pretty recently where we talked about this because after
29:21
Speaker 1: this movie came out, Um, Mary Sue started trending on
29:27
Speaker 1: Twitter and I knew it it was not going to
29:29
Speaker 1: be good. And when I saw it without seeing the movie,
29:32
Speaker 1: what was happening? Yep, I was like, oh no, oh, no,
29:35
Speaker 1: no no, um. And the reason it was trending was,
29:40
Speaker 1: as I said, because so many people and I'm assuming
29:43
Speaker 1: most of them dudes that most of the articles were
29:47
Speaker 1: in videos were done by dudes. Um. I thought, let no,
29:51
Speaker 1: there's no way Naro could be that skilled, and there's
29:55
Speaker 1: no way she could have taken on Predator. So essentially
29:59
Speaker 1: you haven't listened to the Mary see episode of Mary
30:02
Speaker 1: Sue is a typically a woman character that is loved fictionally,
30:11
Speaker 1: loved by everyone and is amazing and skilled at everything,
30:16
Speaker 1: with one or two endearing flaws. It's a term that
30:20
Speaker 1: has roots and fan fiction, but I do think the
30:23
Speaker 1: way that it's thrown about in the mainstream media is
30:25
Speaker 1: very sexist and actually pretty devoid of what it actually
30:28
Speaker 1: was in fan fiction in my opinion. But whatever, very
30:31
Speaker 1: sexist in nature to mean essentially a competent, skilled woman. Um,
30:36
Speaker 1: which a woman could never be, I guess unless we
30:44
Speaker 1: see her train a ton, which is often an argument
30:46
Speaker 1: that comes up, and I'm like, well, here it is.
30:48
Speaker 1: You did see her train a ton and that still
30:52
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. Um, it's not a believable and heavy quotes. Um.
30:58
Speaker 1: Never mind the endless male characters that match this criteria.
31:02
Speaker 1: It's very much like just in my opinion, it's a
31:05
Speaker 1: woman man character always gets called Mary su these days,
31:09
Speaker 1: people argue that she's usually Mary Su was like bland
31:15
Speaker 1: or doesn't have much character development. But again, I think
31:19
Speaker 1: that's just kind of main character stuff, and I would
31:21
Speaker 1: say Naru has tons of character development. I don't know,
31:25
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean people were trying to find like, well,
31:28
Speaker 1: she's bad at hunting, here's why, um, but also like
31:35
Speaker 1: she's too good at hunting, and here's why. Like, it's
31:38
Speaker 1: just so many contradictions that they had. Um. And yeah,
31:43
Speaker 1: like I said, I felt like a lot of that
31:45
Speaker 1: was she was struggling to adapt to a hunting style
31:47
Speaker 1: that wasn't natural to her when people kept telling her
31:49
Speaker 1: like stop waiting, stop waiting, um. And when she did
31:53
Speaker 1: do her own hunting style, she's the one that defeated Predator,
31:57
Speaker 1: and she was consistently distracted by Predator. As you said. Uh.
32:01
Speaker 1: Here is a long quote from Dinner of Geek that
32:03
Speaker 1: I want to include. Since well before Prey was released,
32:07
Speaker 1: they've made their criticisms known online, most of which are
32:11
Speaker 1: couched and thinly veiled forms of bigotry and misogyny. Began
32:14
Speaker 1: when the first teaser trailer appeared for Prey, which highlighted
32:18
Speaker 1: the terrifying technological and balance between narrow and a fellow
32:20
Speaker 1: Comanche warrior and the predator. In the original teaser, we
32:24
Speaker 1: see the pair hiding and tall grass while one character
32:27
Speaker 1: draws bowstring and arrow from a shoulder, and the predators
32:30
Speaker 1: infamous three pronged light which signifies death, appears on his head.
32:35
Speaker 1: By design, you are meant to experience a realization of dread.
32:38
Speaker 1: By the contrast, however, many online influencers reacted with scorn
32:42
Speaker 1: at the very idea of a Predator movie focusing on
32:45
Speaker 1: Native American warriors taking on a pop culture icon from
32:49
Speaker 1: the Reagan years, particularly since the main character among those
32:52
Speaker 1: warriors is a woman. Based purely on the trailer, YouTubers
32:57
Speaker 1: were already reviewing Prey months ago with headlines how to
33:00
Speaker 1: spoil a good idea and then lamenting that the fan
33:03
Speaker 1: base quote just wants a decent Predator movie instead of
33:07
Speaker 1: a thing intersectional struggle session. The same video, which we're
33:11
Speaker 1: purposefully not linking to here, also snarks that unlike the
33:15
Speaker 1: muscular Arnold Schwarzenegger, mid Thunder quote has the size and
33:20
Speaker 1: build of a small child, and her facing off against
33:23
Speaker 1: the predator will be quote in ludicrous. Since the movie's
33:27
Speaker 1: actual release, such criticism hasn't gone away on social media
33:30
Speaker 1: apps like Twitter, where memes have gone viral depicting images
33:33
Speaker 1: of the cast of Predator juxtaposed against mid thunder and
33:38
Speaker 1: text that reads a team of highly skilled badasses with
33:41
Speaker 1: years of experience and almost no chance versus a predator.
33:44
Speaker 1: A girl with almost no experience beats a predator alone.
33:48
Speaker 1: It is, of course, impossible to separate the misogyny and
33:51
Speaker 1: racist undertones of these critiques from any point. They're trying
33:55
Speaker 1: to make. A predisposed need to dismiss any film, particularly
33:59
Speaker 1: in genre and fanboyfair as ludicrous are undeserving when it
34:04
Speaker 1: starts a woman is as common as mindless uses of
34:07
Speaker 1: the term Mary Sue. Writing off Prey because it starts
34:12
Speaker 1: a Comanche woman who's played by a woman of Lakota,
34:15
Speaker 1: Nakota and Dakota heritage as the ultimate survivor as opposed
34:19
Speaker 1: to a six ft two inches Austrian male bodybuilder. Is
34:23
Speaker 1: the point? Yes, yes, oh my gosh, so much that
34:32
Speaker 1: makes me mad about that? Yeah, yeah, Like if you
34:38
Speaker 1: pick apart any of this, it falls apart. Like I
34:43
Speaker 1: I've said a million times, you can have contiques about writing,
34:46
Speaker 1: but a lot of this is just sexist and racist,
34:48
Speaker 1: and basically what you're saying, like the line where they're
34:51
Speaker 1: like one unskilled woman alone, doesn't she wasn't unskilled. And also,
34:58
Speaker 1: like I said, all of Arnold Schwartzenegger's crew got destroyed
35:04
Speaker 1: and they had all of these weapons in training or whatever.
35:09
Speaker 1: She had jest as much training, but whatever. And the
35:12
Speaker 1: way he survived was doing by what she did, which
35:15
Speaker 1: was observing predator and finding flaws and hunting. But I
35:18
Speaker 1: really found that if weird that um, those who are
35:21
Speaker 1: the ones I saw critiquing were critiquing her against Ripley
35:25
Speaker 1: from Alien saying that Ripley, you know these are the
35:29
Speaker 1: reasons Ripley was, Okay, there's no on my wait, what
35:34
Speaker 1: how are they different? Why do you why do you
35:36
Speaker 1: accept from one without the other? I'm confused. I really
35:41
Speaker 1: think there's a lot going on there. I mean, it's
35:45
Speaker 1: probably racist, but come on, okay, it's probably racist. But
35:48
Speaker 1: it's also like Ripley wasn't a very physical character. She
35:55
Speaker 1: has her moments, but she's mostly like playing and doing
36:00
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and and this character not it
36:03
Speaker 1: is very physical. And I've just heard so many arguments
36:06
Speaker 1: from people where they're like but women biologically just can't
36:09
Speaker 1: do that, And like, well, are you telling me these
36:12
Speaker 1: superhero movies was white men they could just do that.
36:15
Speaker 1: That's true. I think you're listening to yourself exactly exactly.
36:22
Speaker 1: But also, Alien was the first, and this is the
36:27
Speaker 1: fifth of a franchise. It's already gotten a lot of
36:31
Speaker 1: fanboy gate keeping going on, and I do want to say, like,
36:47
Speaker 1: the original was such a macho movie. So here's a
36:50
Speaker 1: quote from Vulture. The first Predator came out at the
36:55
Speaker 1: peak of the muscle movie era, and its ensemble exuded
36:58
Speaker 1: levels of testosterum that can only really be obtained with
37:01
Speaker 1: some antabolic assistance. Former wrestler and Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura
37:06
Speaker 1: slung around the kind of rotary machine gun usually mounted
37:09
Speaker 1: to a helicopter. Carl Weathers engaged in a friendly hand
37:12
Speaker 1: class that turned into an improp to arm wrestle that
37:16
Speaker 1: lives on a memes, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, the burliest of
37:20
Speaker 1: them all, played a smirking, sentient pectoral muscle with the
37:24
Speaker 1: undeniably badass nickname of dutch Um. But however, given all
37:30
Speaker 1: of that, the creators have said the original was making
37:34
Speaker 1: fun of this macho masculine idea that you can just
37:36
Speaker 1: punch something and win. Uh, and the whole thing was
37:41
Speaker 1: super buff, but you know the super buff Mark Schwarzeneger
37:46
Speaker 1: couldn't beat Predator until he started observing and using his brain. Um,
37:51
Speaker 1: he reverts to less uh technologically advanced weapons to surprise Predator.
37:55
Speaker 1: So it's it doesn't once again feel like a very
37:59
Speaker 1: much missing of the point point. And I do think we,
38:02
Speaker 1: as I said, we were so ready to pick apart,
38:04
Speaker 1: but physically that is not possible, or technically that's not
38:07
Speaker 1: possible with women, but we don't do that with men.
38:11
Speaker 1: Are not nearly as much with men, or we're just
38:13
Speaker 1: much more willing to go along with the ride with
38:16
Speaker 1: male characters. And I also wanted to point out that
38:20
Speaker 1: we do have in this movie pray women teaching and
38:24
Speaker 1: supporting and inspiring each other and other women in this
38:27
Speaker 1: so you've got Nara's grandmother and the girl watching Nara
38:29
Speaker 1: at the end. As we said, and uh, I did
38:33
Speaker 1: want to include this quote from mid Thunder about the
38:35
Speaker 1: character and and she's been very outspoken about playing against
38:38
Speaker 1: Hollywood tropes when it comes to Native Americans. She's definitely
38:42
Speaker 1: determined and hardheaded and was a well written character. Through
38:46
Speaker 1: her journey, she's taught that the why and what you
38:49
Speaker 1: do matters. We had weapon training with the Tomahawks, lances, knives,
38:53
Speaker 1: and our tree. We also developed a sign language. It
38:55
Speaker 1: was based off a real Comanche sign language mixed with
38:58
Speaker 1: our personal trainers tactical sign language. Um. So she's got
39:02
Speaker 1: a lot of great quotes and that brings us to
39:04
Speaker 1: we're not gonna get too much into this between the
39:06
Speaker 1: language part, because this was historic as we sat at
39:09
Speaker 1: the top to have a full Comanche dub um. Comanche
39:14
Speaker 1: language is used in it. The fact that there are
39:18
Speaker 1: not subtitles under the French part really brings home that
39:23
Speaker 1: Narrow is clearly the hero of this and they are
39:26
Speaker 1: the villains and she wouldn't understand their language, so it's
39:30
Speaker 1: from her point of view. But it is something that's
39:32
Speaker 1: like when I was reading about it, it's seriously lacking
39:36
Speaker 1: in terms of what everything else has been because this
39:39
Speaker 1: is this is the first and I think the only
39:42
Speaker 1: example I found. The only other example I found was
39:44
Speaker 1: that Star Wars has been dubbed in Novo. Yeah, yeah,
39:49
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's just so much more ground we could
39:52
Speaker 1: cover there, but that that is that's something that's progress
39:56
Speaker 1: and it was cool. Uh and then here comes our
39:58
Speaker 1: bonus about Coco. Okay, so Cocoa the dog um seen
40:04
Speaker 1: Steeler as many people said it was an internet sensation
40:09
Speaker 1: after this came out. Yes, and Cocoa was adopted from
40:15
Speaker 1: a Georgia a Georgia facility trained specifically for the film,
40:19
Speaker 1: and in the very fond words of mid Thunder was
40:23
Speaker 1: a quote hot mess. So it is very very fun
40:27
Speaker 1: to watch it, like after your first watch through, watch
40:29
Speaker 1: it again and just watch Coco because it's very funny
40:35
Speaker 1: shelter dog. So I was really surprised. I think my
40:37
Speaker 1: partner and I were both like because when we found
40:39
Speaker 1: out that from Fulton County and shelter or a lifeline
40:42
Speaker 1: which is where Peaches is from, very excited that they
40:45
Speaker 1: were purposely adopted for this movie. Um. And then but
40:50
Speaker 1: that yeah, it's not a trained dog and they really
40:53
Speaker 1: really tried, but they the dog was all over the
40:55
Speaker 1: place and apparently he's really happy now and a good home.
40:58
Speaker 1: And it was just like, I love that even more
41:01
Speaker 1: because my dog would be that dog. You should smant
41:04
Speaker 1: the you should rewatch it and just watch Cocoa because
41:07
Speaker 1: it is very very funny knowing she was chaos and
41:11
Speaker 1: watching it and being like, oh, I see it. Yeah,
41:14
Speaker 1: they were all like people were like, wow, wasn't she
41:16
Speaker 1: More often they're like, look to the point, yeah, the
41:21
Speaker 1: thunder barely was like choose this fun dog likes the
41:25
Speaker 1: way type of level, like not want to be unprofessional
41:32
Speaker 1: and knowing that everybody loved this dog, but you didn't
41:36
Speaker 1: have to act with this dog. And I've heard many
41:38
Speaker 1: actors who refused to work with animals because it can
41:41
Speaker 1: be chaotic. Yeah, yeah, well, and like I said, I
41:46
Speaker 1: do think that everybody loved her, but it is like
41:50
Speaker 1: you know, when you're trying to film the scene and
41:52
Speaker 1: cost But there's multiple scenes where I was watching up
41:56
Speaker 1: with my friend ever Halloween when she was like, where's Cocoon?
41:58
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm sure they couldn't even get co
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Speaker 1: Co to do anything. So there are a couple of
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Speaker 1: Tratchenberg took an unprecedented risk here and succeeded. Hopefully this
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