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685. The Powerful Way Your Body Truly Speaks To You · Be It Till You See It

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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd always relied on somebody else to do all the healing work and I never actually did anything myself because I didn't think I was qualified to do it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I knew how to do it, except that it was my body and it's your body, right, to when you're that you're dealing with.
• 0:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, nobody knows as much about you as you know about yourself.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to the be it till you see it podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm also Logan, Ply's instructor and fitness business coach.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I've trained thousands of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: My friends, action brings clarity.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: and it's the antidote to fear.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Each week my guess will bring bold, executable, intrinsic, and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it until you see it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a practice, not a perfect, let's get started.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, be it babe.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We've talked to people.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We've had people talk about boundaries.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We've had people talk about listening to your body.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We've had people talk about getting to know yourself.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And now I have your guest expert who is able to actually explain how to do all these things explain how to actually listen to your body.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Explain how you can heal yourself and
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  [SPEAKER_04]: really we had a really great conversation about like what but it really looks like and it I mean she was just describing me until you see it in such a beautiful way without saying it and I just I'm so excited that you're about to listen to this episode because I just finished doing it and I am pleased as punch and I feel like I learned so much and or and even things that like I think I knew we're more solidified and I have more confidence in that and I just I'm excited for you.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So here's Anasego.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, be it babe.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm ready to have this conversation.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I got to talk with our guest today before the end of last year.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I was so excited about all the knowledge she has in the area that we're going to dive into.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Also, she's a bestselling author.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's really important to bring that up.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: She is the author of the secret language of your body.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, as a police instructor and someone who's really big on my body connection, like I couldn't.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: agree more with someone having access and information on how we can get to know and talk with our bodies and such a better way.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I think the world will be a better place if we all could do that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So in a single, if you can tell everyone who you are and what you rock at.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you Lizly.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I teach people how to connect to their body and listen to their body, but I'm going to also add the soul and really work with it to transform their health, to transform their emotions, to essentially transform any area of their life, which is stuck a block.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: into something that is much more wise, blowing and deep.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And so they get to know themselves in a deeper, more enriched kind of way.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's not a space experience.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a deep dive experience.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I know, and that's the hard one.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I have the surfaces.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I think easy and necessary to, you know, wake up and go to bed and do some stuff in between, but getting to know ourselves on a soul level.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that is, it feels like it shouldn't be tricky.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But for whatever reason, it feels like it's the hardest thing for people to do.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the hardest thing just because we are not taught from an earlier age that we should listen to our in a self and that's through our sensations, through our emotions, through what's really going on within ourselves, but we're actually taught to ignore everything and adjust ourselves to everybody else in the world and so because of that,
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel that it became a hard thing instead of natural and part of everybody's life is to go,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: My body is essentially showing me if I'm in alignment with my life, with my purpose, with my relationships, with the every part of my life, with my health, or it's not, you know, and if it's not, what is it that I need to change and adjust so that it can be?
• 4:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, like, oh, my gosh, she said so much that I couldn't agree more with, I think, like, we are, we're all taught from a very early age, you know, to like, not listen to.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I feel even as babies, you know, like babies are crying.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And people are like, it's okay, you're okay.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, well, they're crying, you know what I guess?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I get why.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And by the way, we've a lot of moms listen, like I get why.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I probably too be like, you're fine.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: But also at what point are we like teaching them at such a young age to not listen to how they feel or for us to not listen to how they feel or how we feel so So I find like maybe I'm starting our bodies are their own language like we grow up learning English, but our bodies are speaking Spanish and we were never taught
• 5:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: to listen to that language, maybe I'm simplifying a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, can you, I would just want to know before we got too deep into this, like, were you born and knowing all this?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, did your parents teach you this?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, did you come from a mother who made sure you knew how to talk to your, like, get to know your soul and your purpose or how did you get here?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, my mom was actually she's very open-minded as a person, but he was very much when I was growing up who was very much into the medical world and he thought the word of the doctor was kind of the word of God, essentially.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I went to a lot of doctors when I was younger, I had digestive issues, I had psoriasis.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I had really bad back pain, sciatica, inflammation in my back, it twisted back and I had anxiety just from constantly being uncomfortable inside my body and being in pain and
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Essentially, I'm going to say my turning point came when I ended up seeing this car cracker that I'd sing for a while, and he came out of his office, looked at me and said, your body's stuck, and I said, yeah, I know that part, what are you going to do to help me?
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I've been singing for a while, so this was not my first session with him.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's good.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's good.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He's not like, look at you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You're stuck.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, you know, we'd known each other for some time and he, yeah, so he's basically said, you know, you're you're
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  [SPEAKER_02]: body wants to be stuck at this point, go home, and I didn't take very well to that.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the way home.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I was pretty angry, but because I actually come from a background of professional writing and journals and editing, I was, and I was studying that at the time.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking exactly like he was saying before from that linguistic perspective that I'm sock.
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: My body's speaking to me, I don't know what it's saying because it might as well be speaking.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I felt like it was more tiny as a Japanese because I can't even recognize the less I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what you mean, yes.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But together, but what I was aware of is that I'd been going to see somebody
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was two years solid between three and five days a week.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I would have, you know, times maybe a week to maximum month where I felt better.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I could,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Forget about everything and just do whatever I needed to do in my life.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: But then I would have this crash and all the pain would intensify and explode.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I would feel like it would get worse, stronger than better.
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so what occurred to me on this drive home was that I'd always relied on somebody else to do all the healing work and I never actually did anything myself because I didn't think I was qualified to do it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: When I went home, I made a decision.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to heal myself.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I essentially just did the most basic things.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I placed my hands on my back.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I was breathing into my back because I realized that I was holding my breath.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you hold your breath, you are stuck.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you probably know about this more than most of us, personally, from teaching, how it is, and connecting to your body in that way.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so,
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: as I was doing that and counting backwards from 30, it occurred to me to ask for something higher in terms of help, because I thought why not?
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why, you know, at this point, I mean, there was conflict in me around, you know, whether I believed in it fully or not.
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I say this because most people go, well, you have to believe, I didn't believe in anything, I'm one of the most skeptical people you're going to meet when it comes to,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: things, you know, where I need proof for things.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, I have a very scientific skeptical mind.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I asked because I just essentially felt like, why, why would I, why not ask for help at this point?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I had zero expectations, but this warmth just moved through my body.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as my eyes were closed, I saw this golden light and then I said whatever reason or I thought I thought I wonder what my back would look like if I could see it.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And without any expectation within a few moments, I felt like somebody switched the light on and I could see my back.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And although I was a bit shocked, I thought to myself, okay, this is kind of my way to Japanese.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So, show me, don't you?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Why I have this?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What is their real reason that I have this?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And the best way to describe this is as in having a memory,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So it was kind of like, there were several, I am very visual.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know that I wasn't till that moment, but I am.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And visually, I could connect back to memories of things that happened, but not everything was a memory.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Some of it was more of an insight, vision, understanding, kind of wisdom, what happened.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I saw, I was born in Eastern Europe,
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: and going to school and being bullied and from there developing psoriasis so I'm asking.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The conflicts that my parents had in terms of trying to adjust to a new culture going to high school and not necessarily being bullied when I'm being able to speak the language but being bullied for not being one of us, so to speak, not being because it was a private school not being someone who came from a super wealthy family, not belonging to the same club and all of that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: effect to me from the perspective of I don't feel myself.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't feel supported.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't feel comfortable in my own skin.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to be here.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I get all of that.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I get all of that, like, that whole, I think, like, and I think so many people are probably not along.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We don't realize how like it doesn't have to be like so bad that we would be on like a news show or like be a documentary about you.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: But like those little things that make you feel unsafe and how are you don't belong?
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: It means that your body becomes this foreign thing.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: You, you, no, no, no, not only do you not know how to read Japanese, uh, to dr. your body, but like, it just, you know, if you can't belong in your own body, it's really hard to feel like you belong anywhere.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And if you don't feel like you belong anywhere, it's hard to know what belonging in your body is.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't know what, what that feels like.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, exactly.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And the last part of this was an understanding of ancestry meets.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: my own, I guess, challenge everything interestingly was coming up around this communication challenge, right?
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So not being able to speak.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: and be myself, not being able to speak English, not being able to speak the language and I don't mean, you know, when I got all the language that people are speaking about, oh, look, this is my label, this is what I bought here and so on.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, so there was an interesting aspect of that and then there was this ancestral trauma that was connected to my digestive system that took a long long time to work on.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: and it was to do with my grandmother losing a lot of people in her family.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And then when I was 19, I got pregnant.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's very hard for me to adjust to that idea that I was going to become a mother at that age.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have all my friends I would have been
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the one they thought would either have kids, the latest or maybe not even have them.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that was the first in everyone.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it was pretty intense.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then when then I just had this sense that something was off, probably about a month or three weeks before the baby was born and.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: when, but I was told by the midwives that I was crazy that nothing was happening and this is again how medical professionals often kind of push aside anything intuitive that shows up and essentially the baby died and
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: pretty much 38 weeks.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm so sorry.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it was a thousand trauma.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want to leave.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I was, you know, I just want to be able to understand it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I was at rock bottom, even wanting to be here and I was 20.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: In my mind, whilst I don't I can't say 100% I was told that the baby would have died two or three days before, which was actually my birthday where I turned 20.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it was, you know, I kind of connected it to my birthday and all of this stuff and that I do want to be here and what's the point of everything in life.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this whole experience of connecting to my body was pretty profound, so I really saw how my grandmother in her loss, she lost her mother, and she was part of a family of eight, and everybody died except her, and her father, who survived for a few years after the war.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And
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  [SPEAKER_02]: She never really grieved at a work through any way of form because people didn't at that time.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And everybody had digestive issues in my family.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I could see how the explosion occurred, especially I had issues before, but after I had the baby, it was just, you know, my digestive system just wasn't working well.
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And during that experience, I cried a lot.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I also realized that I was a sponge, I was one of those people that just took up on everybody's pain in general as well as, yeah, it all.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And after all of these insights, I fell asleep.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then the next day, when I wake up, about 70% of the pain was gone from my back.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I felt different.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was something different inside of me where I went, oh my God, my body's working with me.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I can work with it.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's because I made this step towards it that it's coming towards me, even though I'm still super skeptical that this is not just something that's not going to return.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: So over the next few weeks, I just journaled a lot.
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And by the end of it, all the surprises was gone.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that was the first thing that went, that was, and again, lots of people my family have it and have had their whole lives.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it wasn't, and I'd had it for, but that's day to 10 years.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it wasn't like, oh, you know, I didn't really have the diagnosis of some kind, yeah.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, I noticed, yeah, my back pain disappeared.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: My anxiety went down.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just finished just two years and years to act on.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They do.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: But also, but also, like with that generational and ancestral trauma, like it just takes a while because the gut just takes a while to like rebuild and do all its stuff and figure out what you need.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I cut you off, but yes, it's like, I actually, it feels better than it didn't happen overnight because that would feel weird.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, exactly.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we need to understand is that
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: especially when it comes, connects, like, well, what's the got about?
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's about the adjusting life as well as food, right?
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a stimulating.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every day we have experiences, this is our emotional center, one of them.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we always talk about what's your gott saying, right?
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we already know, we have it in our language.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we have our intuition, we have our emotions here, we have knowing this here,
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: relationships.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's an area that processes what happened during the day.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Your relationships, your experiences, how something happened in your life and what you believe you're capable of doing.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: where you sense of self leaves and many of us need to clarify what that even means and rebuild that because a sense of self has been been down over the years for your all sorts of things in our family and even at work relationships for sure.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so this is something that
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, how did I, how did I go today?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Did I push down and push away?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And just keep going on, did I face things?
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think that's a great.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, I love that you like ask yourself questions and I think that that's where a lot of people
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think a lot of people get stuck on like one of my asking, but also like do I ask myself how am I doing?
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's a great place to start.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I do think a lot of people, you know, it's it's okay for one day.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I can't do it today.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just have to go through okay one day.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: But where I think happens is that people keep going to the next day into the next day.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: We procrat.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: We keep putting off the prioritization of our self.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's where it builds up.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: on top of the ancestral stuff.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like we have our own stuff and then there's the this stuff.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I guess I've, I don't want to forget to talk about boundaries because I know you've clearly had to figure out how to do that since you, ourselves both since you were a sponge before.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: And obviously we were, you're probably not now since you figured this out.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: But
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: For the people who I've heard of ancestral stuff like it comes through how do people know like what's theirs and what's ancestral and then how do you cut the ties of that because is it like visually cutting the ties is it telling your family that's your stuff like do that.
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I didn't know about visually cutting and I'm not going to be a fan of cutting things general I think.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm more into clearing or being very clear in things that I feel like in terms of again boundaries, it often takes a long time for you to.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Today you're confident first to become aware of what is the healthy boundary, right?
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you have to even come to that place of what does it mean and who we, right?
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's completely different from what we're different people.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I can be incredibly good with having healthy boundaries, let's say, with my students or with my clients, but not necessarily with family, and I'm saying it as an example.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: it's easier with people who are not close with you.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: The hardest thing is with those who are because you don't want to hurt them and you don't want to be harsh and so from my perspective, I've done all sorts of things with boundaries, I've spent
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, countless hours, a different times in my life, writing them down.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I write, get clarity and actually encourage everyone to do that in terms of boundaries.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because what does it mean to you, you know, is it self-respect?
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it self-love?
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it space that you need?
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: What boundary are you actually looking at?
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it actually, you know, I know so many people
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: are single and don't have healthy boundaries with people that they have dated or been in relationships before or where they keep going and then they wonder why they can't find the part and the part that they want and also to things.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's many, many different boundaries that you need to look at.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the hardest and definitely when it comes to your parents, children,
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I really think it's also how you presented and then sticking to it.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So princess with my children, it's also changed over time.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there were times when there were young girls like, well, you have to knock on the door.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's my boundary.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can't just barge in.
• 22:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you go back and you're not going to do it, that's a boundary, right?
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they had to ride down their boundaries as well when they were younger.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they were kind of teenagers and so on.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then it became well.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, with my son, for instance, he would go into this place of overwhelm and then he would bombard me with negative messages in the middle of the night.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so even if I turn my phone off, which was part of my, you know, you were happy.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, happy day exactly.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I said, I had to clarify this to him over and over and over again.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can't do this if you do this.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to, I'm actually not going to speak to you for a while.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, unless you're asking me for help, don't, don't send me this, unless you're willing to do what I'm saying, what I'm going to say is that we had a lot of kind of like, he's about, I'm drinking, he's about drinking, he's about drinking my mom.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: She used to call me and the first thing that she would say would be some kind of complaint.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: as she called, I wouldn't pick up the phone half the time and she would go, you know, you don't pick up the phone and I was like, well, let's think about why I don't pick up the phone.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, what do you usually say when you call me, you know, do you say something positive?
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is something encouraging?
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or do you kind of attack and say all these things to me?
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so again, we had to have a break for several months from talking to each other because I was like,
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: you can't do that.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we had a break another time that she learned her lesson where and I would say I will hang up if you start being negative and telling me all this stuff.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not your therapist, I'm your daughter.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we need to change again in the roles that we're playing because I cannot grow the way that you're doing this.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: like you are with my children, so I need a completely different, like, overhaul of mothering, you know, so that I can be the mother that I think they need.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's so many different ways, and I think luckily for me, everybody in the family is then truly, because they have got the message in terms of what
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I appreciate you one given all those examples because I have asked other people this question and I don't get nearly the detail.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: I get like, be patient but also be clear and it's like, right, I think you for the, you know, the same thing I could read on a blog.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: What I appreciate is like you explain like how.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: your how the boundaries, healthy boundaries evolve over time based on the person and based on your needs and also that like it is a it is hard you have to keep enforcing that boundary and tell you know it's a it's an actual boundary that they see and you can and and it can be appreciated and also that means that they can to boundaries too and I think that's where a lot of people who struggle when people put boundaries up is that they don't
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: So thank you for diving into that.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I do want, before I forget, I do want to go into that ancestral stuff because like, first of all, I can only imagine what your grandmother went through, but I do know that like, most of us, no matter where you live in the world, if you're over 40, you have grandparents or great-grandparents who were in,
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: These were world wars, so there was, there was a lot of loss and like you know like I know from like my father was in a war that was Not appreciated and liked and in hindsight was a terrible thing and so not treated the same as people who were in one of the world wars when they came back home and so I think like all these things depends so how do you
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: How did you discover what was ancestral like with your gut was your grandmother versus like, oh, the stuff with is over here is my stuff.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like how did you kind of figure that out.
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I started looking everybody in the family actually.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said asking questions which were.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Was I born with this?
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, how is did I bring this with me into this life?
• 26:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it doesn't feel like completely mine?
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or does it feel like I've bought it I'm taking it off, I'm carrying this.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if I am, then am I doing it unconsciously in the same exact way that my,
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Grand Molo, Grand Grand Molo, however else is data on my mom, or am I doing this differently?
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was closely looking at it and one of the biggest things that we do take on and that I was watching myself, you know, absorb, as to say, was constant worry, right, constant worry.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because that was something my grandmother did, my grandfather did it, they had digestive issues,
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are they doing that I don't want to get the same health issue?
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's break that down.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, actually, because the biggest thing in my family is intestinal cancer, I was like, okay, let's look that up.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, in my book that I write, let's look at that, right?
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And let's go, what causes this?
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if I don't want to get this, I need to act in a very, very different way, meaning internally, not just on the external, which means I need to go rather than just sitting in that state of tension and worry, it's like, what can I do to transform that?
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: worry, you know, what can I, what do I need to work on in terms of that?
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So how do I change that?
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: When this shows up, what am I worrying about?
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And actually my daughter asked me the other day, she says, Mom, what do you do, you know, when when things happen to her mainly to my son?
• 28:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's different because she was asking me about this ancestral stuff.
• 29:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I said to her, well, actually, I start to think, I know so many processes, right?
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I teach them.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I write about them.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I immediately get my journal out.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I write down what's going on for me.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I look at.
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: what are the processes that are available to me that can help me and him?
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it could be as simple as I am focused on buying into whatever he's telling me, which is negative, and he obviously wants me to feel as bad as I possibly can feel, because that's his pattern that he's learned from, you know, he's that and other people in the family.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: What if I don't buy that?
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I actually keep seeing him being healthier and being stronger and being different.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, I mean, not different to his, but being aware of where he's at.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, what I found is that it's not immediately that the change happens when you hold something different for, let's say, your, your child, but eventually they have, it's like they have something different to adjust to then that ancestral line that you've worked on yourself.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's how you change things for your family.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Instead of me turning on the emotion that they're trying to get me to have, I'm visualizing the person that I wish they could be in that moment.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can stay good and their stuff stays their stuff.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it's not going to solve it in today's conversation or tomorrow's conversation or whatever, but like, I'm not taking it on either because it's not mine.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love this so much.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my God.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I could keep talking about this with you, but I do want to pick your brain.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's something that we talked about that made me so excited.
• 31:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: You have a whole thing you talk about archetypes.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And with masculine and feminine, I just kind of wanted to get into that because I think it's really easy for, you know, with Instagram to say, like, oh, you're going to be in your feminine.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, well, yeah, and I run my own business.
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know,
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes I have to talk about taxes like sometimes I just got to do it so I kind of want to be here your take because I'm I also I'm someone who's like Pad got issues and I've had a lot of people who listen who have that and I'm like how do I stay Not taking it all in but also like Being in this world this world is a lot going on yeah so let's eat
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: When we're looking at archetypes, essentially what we're looking at is emotion meets your belief systems and a perspective, a particular way of seeing life, meets your life's story.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what's actually occurred to you specifically?
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: and also it connects to your ancestry what you've picked up and you're playing out that you're necessarily aware of.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: So let's say we are looking to feminine and masculine as archetypes.
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if I'm looking in the feminine archetype and I feel like hardly anyone talks about this, I need to actually to understand my own feminine.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need to understand my feminine line.
• 32:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need to understand,
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: what was the feminine in terms of my grandmother, let's say, how did she express that?
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And is that in alignment with what I feel feminine is at this point?
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So was she warm kind loving, expressing or was she called disconnected in herself?
• 32:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: What was the example of feminine
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do it all of these people because that became my idea of what feminine is now around the age of 14 to let's say, 16, we are as we're growing in the teenage age, which is also an archetype, where we're looking at our family,
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: who would I like to be like, who is showing me something that is more appealing to me than the other person.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So for a lot of us, especially of my generation, like you said
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You kind of had that more of a choice than the generations before that where you looked at your mom and you looked at your dad and you went
• 33:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I want to be more masculine because it looks more fun, and I can, and I want to, you know, for me, it was like, I want to be like, Madonna, look, if you can do it, I can do it, it's not going to be my role.
• 34:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to be different on my wall, but I am so I feel like I missed out on an amazing chapter of life, if I could have had her as my mentor.
• 34:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you know, and she was quite masculine and since she went, I'm going to do whatever I'm going to do.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to come to the world blah, blah, blah.
• 34:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So to me, he was that and subconsciously again, no one does this consciously subconsciously.
• 34:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, my mom, so what feminine means for in terms of what I've seen is cooking, cleaning, doing what you don't want to do, being subordinate to your partner.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not doing that.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, I'd rather be masculine than feminine in that sense.
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, not consciously, because my dad has to read him.
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: He does whatever he wants to do.
• 34:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: My mom does whatever my dad wants her to do.
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever she feels, she's constantly adjusting herself.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I kind of went like this, you know, ball into the real into my earlier relate, and she was going, oh no, it's my way.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, because I cannot be like what I've seen my mom be.
• 35:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: which obviously then create a lot of conflict and mainly go okay so when I'm looking when somebody says be feminine and I'm looking at this and it's still working progress right and I'm going so what does it look like today to show up being feminine
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: in terms of this person and that and I thought about it in so many different ways and one of the easiest ways that thought about it is through color.
• 35:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it was like, okay, let's say I'm wearing pink today, so I'm going.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: pink is a soft color, quite feminine in that sense of expansion.
• 36:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a love color, but it's gentle.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not that red passion, you know, an intensity.
• 36:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's softer than green, even the green is connected to the heart and healing the heart.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, oh my go, okay, so, what does it look like to be pink and connect to my son for instance?
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: through that, you know, more of the gentleness, let me, let me get to know myself in that feminine through that color.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do I breathe?
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do I feel?
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do I walk?
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: How does my voice sound?
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can I adjust my voice based on this color?
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: People get affected.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, it started to look at that.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I also think that when you're looking at, again, feminine or masculine, it's about
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: those like what do I already have and what am I missing?
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so one of the things because I grew up at, you know, both when I was very young in Eastern Europe and then in Australia most of the time now in both of these places gracefulness is not.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: one of the things that you see in terms of women.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: But in France, you see that all the time.
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I want to point out, like, what am I missing?
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm missing this sense of race that I find really attractive in terms of seeing and in other women.
• 37:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so where do I find this?
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I need to look at
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: old movies, I need to look at French women, not all of them, but yeah, no, I just ain't that there's just so be it till you see it.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is like the blueprint for like how to be it till you see it.
• 37:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I agree like, oh my god, the French women, like they know how to just like they exude luxury and grace.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And just watching it and going, oh, okay.
• 37:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me, let me embrace this.
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me practice this, right?
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because people think, oh, I am here.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am, and I'm, I don't agree with that.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you are a refinement, you know, and this is why I don't agree with this whole idea in the new age movement of, I'm already perfect.
• 38:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, why, why, what are you doing here?
• 38:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you're already perfect.
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's the point of this?
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the infection, as my partner says, this constantly the infection is the enemy of creation.
• 38:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you're not perfect.
• 38:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: You would not be here.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is not a holiday.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're here to evolve and grow.
• 38:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we find that, you know, that's not even used to work, perfect.
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's used to where to refine and grow in that sense.
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's the same with the masculine.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: What I find, for instance, is that people who
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: find very hard to be successful in the outside world have a very weakened masculine without any doubt.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's almost like that spine of the masculine is weakened inside of the music from childhood, usually from, you know, all sorts of belief systems and early failures and lack of direction and lack of support, often from their family
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Rather than pushing somebody into direction, actually discovering the direction that and supporting them in the direction that is right for them.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so what ends up happening is that this people start having this very, very strong belief systems, but it shows up in their spine, like literally shows up energetically in their spine, because lower back, for instance, is all about finances and you know how good are you at
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: looking off to and supporting your family.
• 39:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I grew up with people who constantly thought about finance.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's so it was not a surprise when I figured it out.
• 39:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had to have pain and love back pain.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's almost like as you become aware of it, you actually have choice to do something about it.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So with the masculine, you can
• 40:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, you can go, oh, I need to work on strengthening that archetype, that part of myself, but also my spine and my ability to handle rejection, my ability to handle objections, my ability to guide if it is my own business, let's just say, my ability to make decisions,
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So all of those are beautiful masculine qualities, but I need to let's say whether you're in a masculine or feminine body.
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's feminine, it's creative, it's like, it's a bit chaotic, but it's, you know, it's flowing at the same time, it's colorful, you know, that there's that divinity and spirituality magic that occurs there.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas the masculine's more about making it happen, taking something that's creative and amazing and putting it into.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: practice.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, and you can, I didn't love to hear.
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to make your own opinion for you, but like it just sounds like we need both.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like we have to, we need we all need both.
• 41:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it sounds like understanding where we got our, our vision of what those two things are and how we are using them in our body is going to.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: either help us or it might be what's harming us.
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so the more we can take our time to discover who is where did I discover my feminine and where am I where would I like it to be and where we're did the masculine happen and where would where would I prefer it to be and then working towards that and I love that we are not perfect.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's no perfect.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just keep on evolving and
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: So but I it's like the they were the Instagram world is like oh I have like three friends or like I'm just gonna like live in my divine feminine I'm like oh, okay.
• 41:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean I think that's gonna be hard
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, actually, interestingly, quite a few years ago when I was separating from my ex-husband, I ended up meeting this friend of mine and she was doing this whole divine feminine thing at the time.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I remember I would call her and I would say, we caught up three times a week at the time, which was amazing.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'd call her and I'd go, oh, what have you been doing?
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, this week besides the times with, you know, caught up.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm connecting to my feminine.
• 42:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just literally lying next to the pool, journaling, you know, getting the sun, having a swim, and that's all I'm doing, because I'm slowing down internally.
• 42:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she would swing in this beautiful kind of very slow way.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I remember thinking,
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like she's the complete opposite to me.
• 42:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know what that looks like or what that means.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: To just, you know, go and this was happening over many months.
• 43:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So she just, you know, it was COVID, she wasn't working and she was, you know, she'd pick up her son and do some things in the evening from school.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: But most of the day was about this and I'm really embodying it and I was like,
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's amazing that she's doing it, but most of us do not have that lecture of just or pull things in line, actually, you know, and kind of go do something today.
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, even the same way that it was beautiful, it was also really challenging for her because then she was kind of like, well, I want to start a business, but there was also sort of blocks that were coming up for her to start a business because she really got into that state of
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, feminine means there's no time limit.
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you just do what you want.
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You just kind of, right?
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And eventually, she had to step into her masculine and start to balance it out because you cannot just be in one, you know, one of the other.
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're possible.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I go to the same with like, oh my gosh, I mean, we don't have time to get into it, but like on the ground, these people are like, these dudes like this is what it means to be masculine.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, is it though?
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, maybe you should find your feminine, maybe you should.
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I appreciate that you sharing that story and also like, yeah, it's kind of like taking the time to understand both archetypes for ourselves and what that refinement looks like and then working on what the transition is between the two and when when you're applying both, you know I feel like I could talk to you forever because like it's so beautiful what you do and you're so knowledgeable
• 44:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: and there's a lot of kindness in how you approach these things.
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's also so patient.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, I appreciate that because, you know, our listeners are like, okay, but tell me, and I think they need to hear like it does take time.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, we are going to take a brief break and find out what people can find you follow you, work with you, and your upbeat action items.
• 45:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, Yena, where do hang out, where can they buy your book, where they take courses, where should they go to learn more about you?
• 45:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: to the best place to go through is my website, which is innercl.com, idlna.edu.com.
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what I really invite people to do is to take a step forward.
• 45:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And in the last few years, what I wanted to do is to take away people's excuses.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I used to do this,
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: muscle classes, slash mini workshop, so it's actually charged quite a bit of money for it.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I said to my partner, you know what, I just feel like I wanna spread the seeds so to speak.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I wanna give people an opportunity for some time and this can change at any point that we've decided to change it, but for some time, an opportunity to access these,
• 45:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: in a mini workshops for free, because I want to take away excuses, because most people have excuses, non-stop excuses of why they don't do something.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the only excuse that I cannot take away is you actually making a time for yourself and going and doing it, right?
• 46:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Actually doing the course, the mini workshop, the masterclass, and giving yourself the opportunity to tune in.
• 46:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's,
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: the several master classes.
• 46:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's option, it's not, I never believe in one fits all kind of mentality.
• 46:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some people very new to my work, my book, the Secret Language of Your Body, and they just want to go, how do I work with the book in the best way possible, right?
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do I work with my body in the best way possible?
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we have,
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: options for that where people can, you know, can do a course base on my book, the secret language of your body, or they might, you know, we also did something called the A to Eq challenge where, you know, connecting to your intuitive body, where I go through all the systems of the body through that A to Eqs, as well as archetypes of entering into your body.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this is a way for people to really get to know and understand all the different aspects of their body and shows up and really be branded, but then I teach.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I teach my hand of 10 day workshop of all I can heal our within, which is.
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: what I'm most excited about because it's what, you know, what is the foundation of healing?
• 47:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is it actually mean to heal on the deepest level?
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we talk about and work with a lot of archetypes from feminine and masculine to the victim to the, you know, in a child to really understanding the saboteur and how you sabotage your life, how you procrastinate.
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so as well as
• 47:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: the archetypes connected to your intuition and your capacity to move forward.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot of tools around working with the body and healing and different conditions and energy and so on in that particular offering, which is a masterclass as well,
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: also to process as I always, I don't just talk in these master classes, I actually give people a lot of wisdom and processes and then I have one on your purpose and the soul purpose and what it even means and looks like and one on understanding ancestry and understanding your kind of your stages of development.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: So this is a lot.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, oh my gosh, and of course right now.
• 48:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can access it for free, so you should go do that.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why would you wait?
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: And if you have to pay, I think it's probably worth it.
• 48:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, I learned so much already.
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: You have given us so much, and I agree with that, like, take a step forward.
• 49:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: So that could be your be-adaction on it.
• 49:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: But if you have any other bold, execute-able intrinsic or targeted steps, people can take to be it till they see it.
• 49:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: We'd love to hear him.
• 49:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: feel like step one is making you decision that you're you're somehow responsible for your own healing.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not for what happened to you not for all the trauma that occurred to you and other people's involvement, but what can you do about it?
• 49:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And without it,
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: nobody actually really heals in a real way.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Other people can do all sorts of things for you, but it won't fully hold because unless you take that step forward, you're not really understanding what it's about and so
• 49:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Step one is being interested, being willing to understand, taking that responsibility and then searching for or taking step the step forward.
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm going to say is helping yourself from the perspective of how does this become part of my life, right?
• 50:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: So how do I make it part of my life?
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: In other words, what do I do when I wake up in the morning, most of the time, because we can't do something all the time, things change, but most of the time, what is your first thought when you wake up in the morning?
• 50:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are you focused on meditation, divine connection are you focused on what,
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: You could do during the day a focus on the positive, but you focus on stress and worry, you know, what happens to you, then, you know, what happens to you when you're eating, for instance, are you conscious?
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's a huge honor from my today, boncle, letting myself, because we're just like, running and doing this and this and that, you know, can you start to create time?
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I had this conversation yesterday,
• 51:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: with my partner, I went to meet his family, he's from the UK.
• 51:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we went to England last year and
• 51:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was watching his family and I was like, oh, I got to come breathe because they just ran.
• 51:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, there was no stopping.
• 51:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was no kind of breathing.
• 51:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was no self-revelection.
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was just like doing, doing, fixing, mixed, mixed, mixed.
• 51:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he said to me yesterday, he said, I've just realized that, you know, I do my work.
• 51:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: We worked together, I think, like you do in your husband.
• 51:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I finished something and I go, what's next?
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's next?
• 51:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's next?
• 51:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I never gave myself time to really connect and tune in and he and I said to him, yeah, because this is, that's all you've seen when you were growing up.
• 51:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was exhausted watching your family and I remember I one point I did a process and I did in the wrong place in the wrong room where everybody could see me where they started coming into the house that I didn't realize how long it would take.
• 52:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they were like, what are you doing wasting your time as opposed to actually I'm doing something really important, like, why are you not helping us?
• 52:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is like, oh, because I'm being, I need to, you know, I'm doing something for myself, because it, it was, it not existent, yeah.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he went, it's almost like, I feel guilty or I feel that I'm wasting my time.
• 52:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why when you keep saying, do processes, I'm like, but if it's so much more to do, it's practical.
• 52:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what you're saying to do is in practical.
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, internal stuff, but I don't see the practical application of it.
• 52:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, he's like, can I feel guilty?
• 52:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I need to change this, right?
• 52:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this is many, many people, especially men, where they kind of go up.
• 52:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just need to fix stuff.
• 52:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I just need to do stuff as opposed to
• 53:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Unless you're good inside and you even give yourself an opportunity, like you said, Leslie, to ask questions, to go reading, to discover who are you, what do you stand for, what what do you do, what are you about, you know, all of this,
• 53:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: takes time to self-reflect and self-connect.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: How can you have boundaries?
• 53:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: How can you have good relationships with someone even if you think about it?
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right?
• 53:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because that shows up in your body.
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So how do you allow yourself to access feelings if you're being taught to push them down?
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it takes time.
• 53:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It takes time.
• 53:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: time for you to explore, but you have to make the choice to explore.
• 53:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love this so much, and also isn't it so funny when we see our partner or our friends like where they come from, and then you're like, oh, that's why you don't sit still, like no one is sitting still.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: And, like, my husband will listen to it and we'll do a recap, but like, hey, babe, do you, did you see yourself in that?
• 54:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: We just brought the computer to the pool and I was like, I'm going to shame you.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to put you on the internet.
• 54:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: My husband brought his computer to the pool everyone.
• 54:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, so, but also, like,
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's, we're all on this journey.
• 54:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're all learning them more.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: We can actually take your beat actions and embody them and use them.
• 54:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think we can act.
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: We all get to grow together and we can affect so many people's lives.
• 54:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: And like our bubble of influence will be affected in a positive way.
• 54:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: So thank you, ENA, for being you.
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: And for all that you brought to us and all that you educated us on.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to have to talk again.
• 54:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure because I bear, I think we barely touch the surface of all that you know.
• 54:53
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• 55:02
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• 55:05
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• 55:06
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• 55:10
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