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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein's Inner Circle And The Motivations That Drove Them (7/10/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm
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your host, Bobby Capucci, and this is a morning update.
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What's up everybody, and greetings from Sin City. Today, we're
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going to dive into the financials once again, and we're
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going to look at an article from the International Consortium
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of Investigative Journalists. And this article is kind of dealing
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with the Paradise Papers once again, but really what it's
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looking at is how lawyer's accountants and other professionals play
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a key role in enabling all of these financial crimes.
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And this goes into our overall conversation right now. Obviously,
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we started this conversation because it really has a lot
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to do with Jeffrey Epstein and the way he conducted
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his business. But when you start taking a look at
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this and you dive a little deeper, you understand very
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quickly that it was not just Jeffrey Epstein using this system.
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This is a tried and true system that these people
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have set up, that they know how to navigate, and
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they know that the payoff is well worth it. Look
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how many of these people are using these kinds of accounts.
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Look how many of these banks are engaging in this
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sort of behavior. Every single time we turn around, there's
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another bank getting slapped with a fine. Meanwhile, nobody's going
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to prison for that. There's just fines and then all
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of the money gets paid and it starts all over again.
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So there's no real prosecution of these people. And the lawyers,
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the accountants and all of these people who play a
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role enabling these financial crimes. They have to be held
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accountable for the parts that they play. It would be
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no different if they were cooking the books for some
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mafioso or cartel member. What is the difference, really, there
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is no difference besides the fact that the people were
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talking about the so called elites. They're the ones that
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are writing the check for the people who are making
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the laws.
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Speaker 2: That's the difference.
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Speaker 1: Let's jump into this article from International Consortium of Investigative
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Journalists and let's see what the authors or author I
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should say. Will Fitzgibbon has to say headline, Lawyers, accountants
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and other professionals play key role in cross border financial
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crime OECD Warrens in new report, The Form of Wealthy
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Nations urges countries to target and disrupt enablers of tax evasion,
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Money laundering and other illicit finance. Boy, that sounds familiar,
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doesn't it. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of
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players in the Jeffrey Epstein saga that certainly fit that bill. No,
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how about Indike? How about Cohn? How about all of
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the bankers who enabled Jeffrey Epstein? Pretty relevant? No. This
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article was originally published on February twenty fifth, twenty twenty one.
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A powerful international organization whose members represent the world's largest
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economies has issued a strong warning about the threats and
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risks posed by lawyers, accountants, and other facilitators who helped
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their clients commit and conceal financial crimes. We've been talking
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about this for how long. This is one of the
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key components of how Jeffrey Epstein was able to operate
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his criminal enterprise with the help of all of these enablers,
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all of these lawyers, the accountants, people working inside of
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the financial district. It was all one gigantic moving part,
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and people like Indike and Khan, the in house lawyer
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and accountant, played such huge roles in what Epstein was doing. Folks,
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all you have to do is take a look at
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the financials. All you have to do is take a
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look at where Indike and Khan's name are all over
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the paperwork, and you understand very quickly the sort of
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relationship that they had with Jeffrey Epstein, and it's very
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obvious that they were at the very least in the
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know about his financial crimes. These professional enablers, often associated
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with the secretive offshore finance industry, undermine not only the
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rule of law but their own profession, says the Paris
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based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in a new report.
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So we have all of these different watchdog agencies and
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groups coming out and talking about how much of an
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issue all of this is, and governments they've ignored it
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for so long.
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Speaker 2: They have ignored the fact.
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Speaker 1: That these so called elites are manipulating the system with
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the help of bankers and financiers and lawyers and accountants.
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This is the dark side of it, right, the underbelly
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that nobody ever talks about. And to tell you the truth,
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we probably wouldn't be talking about it either if it
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wasn't for this lockdown and all of this time on
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my hands. But once that curtain is drawn back, I
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don't understand how you can go back to being blind
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and not understand the stakes and understand what's going on here.
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This is even bigger than just the Jeffrey Epstein case. Right,
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We're talking about the most elite, richest people in the world,
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the most powerful people in the world, who literally control
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our lives via laws and all the other stuff, are
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engaging in some of the most disgusting acts. And what
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we have with the Paradise Papers, the Luanda leaks, fins
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and files is an expose on all of it. Will
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it stops short of concrete prescriptions, the report includes broad
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recommendations aimed at targeting professional enablers and disrupting their activities.
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Speaker 2: Hallelujah.
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Speaker 1: There needs to be some sort of mechanism in place
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to stop this sort of thing from occurring. And I
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think it all goes back to and it all starts
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with making sure that there's penalties on the books that
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slap these people when they get caught doing this, as
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opposed to just finding them, as opposed to just giving
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them a little slap on the wrist. Make sure these
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laws have teeth and that these people suffer the consequences, because,
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just like having children, if you let them get away
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with things, they are going to walk all over you.
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The ending the shell Game report, which cites reporting by
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the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists in its opening paragraph,
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marks the OECD's first detailed foray into the realm of
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criminal professional enablers. Well, I say welcome to the party,
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because this is something that is very very very very
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central to the Jeffrey Epstein case as a whole. And
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if it was not for these enablers, and not for
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the people helping Jeffrey Epstein from the sidelines and right
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from inside of the mix itself, then Epstein would have
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never been able to do what he had done.
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Speaker 2: For so long.
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Speaker 1: He would have been caught the first time, you know,
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they would have been onto him. But he had so
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many different people helping him out, enabling him in different
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facets of this criminal enterprise, that it was just a
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spider's web of ties that bind, a wide term that
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encompasses a pope poie of wizzes with special skills, including
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tax advisors, wealth managers, lawyers, accountants, company formation agents, and
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trust companies. We've talked about all of this at length
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because of the Jeffrey Epstein case, and that's why I
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introduced the fence and files originally to this case because
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it is so important that we understand how these people
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function as far as in the world of money, as
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far as pumping lifeblood into the heart of their operation.
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If we don't understand how that occurs, and we don't
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understand how these people are moving money around in the
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shadows and out of the view of governments and regulation agencies,
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then we're never going to truly truly understand how this
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man was able to do what he was able to do.
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Many of the OECD's thirty seven member countries, including the
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United States, the Netherlands, and Switzerland, are home to hoardes
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of professional enablers and have poor track records and holding
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the various sectors accountable. Well, of course, where do you
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think the bread's getting buttered?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: You think these politicians have the backbone or the coynes
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to hold these people responsible. Where they going to get
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their checks? Then who's going to donate to their campaigns?
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What you think your ten dollars donation to your favorite
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politician really matters? You think that those people really care
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about you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Right, Unless you're showing up with the Gucci bag full
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of dough to dump it on their table. Then forget
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about it. And at the end of the day, we
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all know that money makes everything move, and we know
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that it is certainly.
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Speaker 2: The lifeblood of politics.
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Speaker 1: So if anybody he thinks that these politicians are going
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to go after their bag men without some serious, serious
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prodding from the public, they're being very naive. Just take
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a look at how how this has went down for
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all of these years. It doesn't matter who the president
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has been, what side of the aisle they're on, they're
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all owned by the same people, folks. Recommendations for countries
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include more education about the role of enablers in financial
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crime and tougher laws to hold them criminally liable. Hallelujah,
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that's all I've ever cried about from here. Look again,
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all I want is the system to operate correctly. I
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know it's asking for a lot equal justice under the law,
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that's all. If you or I were conducting these sorts
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of scams, schemes or plots, we'd be in prison. But
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these guys, for some reason, Ah, they get a pass.
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Oh they're rich, that's all right, So we'll just find them,
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We'll take some of their money, and then that money
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falls into the black pit of the United States government,
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and then where the hell does it go. I don't know,
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maybe some bombs to drop on some pe of some
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unsuspecting people in the Middle East, perhaps, who the hell
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knows anymore. With the United States government, there's no accountability
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whatsoever from the top down, where lawyers can too easily
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hide behind client attorney privilege and refuse to share possible
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evidence of crime with law enforcement. For example, the OEC
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suggests that countries consider new legislation. I agree, and I
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think that the legislation, the legislation has to be targeted
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specifically at these people who are enabling criminals, people like Endyke,
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people like KHN. Imagine if there were some laws on
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the books that actually had teeth to slap these dudes
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with be a watershed moment. The second one of these
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kinds of people ends up getting slapped in the ass
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and put in jail because up until this point, well,
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they have gotten a free pass. Folks, All countries, the
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OECD suggests, should create national strategies to tackle professional enablers
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who actively participate in tax crimes and other financial crimes.
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That would be a good idea, huh, I mean, you
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have the FBI working overtime rounding up people that were
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at that capital protest. So let's get them working a
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little bit overtime here as well. And how about you
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to wrap up some of these criminal bastards who are
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involved in the financial system, who are ripping us off
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on a daily basis. The report takes pains to distinguish
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those complicit in moving and hiding illicit money from professionals who.
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Speaker 2: Follow the law.
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Speaker 1: Well, of course there has to be that. We have
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to make the different make the difference known. Right, There
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are people that follow the law. There are the lawyers
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that do the right thing. This doesn't mean everybody is
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engaging in this Unfortunately. There's a very large percentage though,
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who are and it needs to be brought to light.
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People need to understand there are no good guys, folks,
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just a bunch of great characters. The majority of professionals
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are law abiding and play an important role in assisting
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businesses and individuals to understand and comply with the law
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and helping the financial system run smoothly. The report says, man,
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I don't know about the majority, all right, maybe the majority,
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but there's a very large minority of scumbags. Such law
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abiding professionals are to be differentiated from a small of
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professionals who use their skills and knowledge of the law
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to actively promote market and facilitate the commission of crimes
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by their clients.
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Speaker 2: Men.
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Speaker 1: I think he's talking directly at Indike right now, You
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hear that, Darren. They're talking about you, sir. Professional enablers
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in the shadows. Poor and wealthy countries alike are undergrowing
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pressure to recoup billions of dollars in revenue lost to
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tax evasion and crack down on financial crime. About time,
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because you see, folks, it's not us engaging in this
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financial crime, right, the regular people of the world. We're
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busy trying to feed our families and make sure our
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lights stay on. It's these scumbags, the one percent of
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the one percent, that are engaging in this shit on
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a regular basis, pretty much every transaction they make. Tax advisors, lawyers,
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and accountants are valuable partners for rogue actors who need
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sophisticated structures and clever advice to outsmart law enforcement. Again,
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Endike and Khan, that was their role within Jeffrey Epstein's operation.
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Do you see how it all becomes clear here? Folks?
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Since we've done all of the groundwork and all of
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the legwork, and we've put all of the pieces of
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the puzzle out there, and we've started working from the corners,
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and now we're getting to the middle. See how it
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all starts to fall into place, and why it's important
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to stay on this every single day the way we do.
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Doctor Katie Benson, a lecturer at Lancaster University Law School
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who has written extensively on the topic, said that interest
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in enablers has spiked over recent years. Increasingly there is
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more of a focus on sanctioning people for doing this.
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Benson said, there is a concern that it doesn't happen enough.
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Dear doctor Katie Benson, from your mouth to the maker's ears,
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it is about time that these enablers in the financial
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sector are put on display and put on blast, because
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these people are literally screwing all of our lives up, folks,
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all of our lives extra couple points on the financial
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you'd pay a few dollars more on the loan. You know,
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Nicolin Diamond, you for everything. The OECD's report highlights examples
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from around the world of professionals hiding clients' money, often
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through shell companies whose owners are hard to trace. In
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one US case cited in the report, tax advisors prepared
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fake business losses on tax returns to reduce taxes paid.
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In another from Sweden and the United Kingdom, the OECD
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described an incident where an unnamed offshore specialist encouraged customers
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to communicate through encrypted emails and changed banks to avoid
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detection by police.
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Speaker 2: These are the kind of people that.
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Speaker 1: Are inhabiting the financial sector, folks. These are the kind
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of people that Jeffrey Epstein clung to, you know, they say.
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Jeffrey Epstein collected people in minds. He also collected people
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in the financial sector that you wouldn't think about, compliance officials,
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et cetera, et cetera. Anybody that he thought could help
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him move his money, anybody who he thought could help
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him with his illicit business. He tried to get his
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hooks in. Professional professional facilitators operate in environments where services
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including setting up companies and hiring nominee directors as front people,
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can be bought on the cheap.
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Speaker 2: The OECD says these.
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Speaker 1: Services attract criminals, who employ enablers to design schemes that
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hide assets through low cost offshore companies behind more legitimate
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seeming on shore businesses. Boy, where have we seen that before?
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Seems like we've talked about this quite a bit with
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Jeffrey Epstein. No, all of the shell companies, all of
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the business being conducted in the US, Virgin Islands, et cetera,
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et cetera, was all for the specific purpose of washing
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his money and hiding it. That way, nobody knew how
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much money he had, and he can continue on with
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his criminal operation. ICIJ's successive expose as of the offshore
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industry has contributed to the growing interest in enablers.
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Speaker 2: The OECD said.
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Speaker 1: For sure one hundred percent, the ICIJ's work here has
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been superb, folks, and outing these people is such a
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huge deal for mankind as a whole. And that's not
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even hyperbole, that's just straight up real talk, because this
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affects us all, and with the coming inflation, that's going
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to smack us all in the teeth. Boy, it's not
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going to be good if we let these people continue
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to do what they do. The Panama Papers and the
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Paradise Papers investigations led by the ICIJ and su Deutsche
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Zeitungu helped spark major initiatives among governments to track the
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suspected facilitation of offshore tax evasion according to the OECD.
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And I want to give all of yous a shout
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out out there as well, all of you who have
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taken an interest in this, who have decided that the
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financial aspect of this merits more of a Look, you
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folks are moving the needle as well. Just take a
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look at schrod Brown's legislation and look at the am AML.
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Holy cow, the AML that was inserted in the new bill.
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What do you think that just happened overnight because these
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government officials want to hamstring themselves. Hell no, it happened
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because people are waking up and people are not happy
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about what they're seeing. In twenty eighteen, more than two
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years after the Panama Papers investigation, US prosecutors announced criminal
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charges against Dick Gaffe, a Massachusetts accountant whose services were
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exposed through reporting by journalists. Gaffe pleaded guilty to conspiring
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with US taxpayers to help them evade taxes and launder money.
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He was sentenced to more than three years in prison.
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So there you go, guy, laundering money, three years in prison?
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What about Endyke? What about Khan? When is their day coming.
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Last year, in fallout from ICIJ's twenty seventeen Paradise Papers investigation,
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Singapore's financial watchdog find the trust company Asia City almost
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eight hundred thousand dollars for serious breaches of anti money
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laundering rules after the firm missed or ignored red flags,
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including the source of one client's funds. So, I don't
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even want to hear missed. They ignored it because they
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were going to enrich themselves. And we see it over
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and over and over again with these institutions. In December,
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following ICIJ's twenty twenty twenty Luanda Leiku's investigation, Portuguese regulators
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recommending recommended auditing companies face criminal charges for failing to
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report transactions that bore hallmarks of fraud and deals that
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helped Angola billionaire Isabelle dos Santo's grow rich. So look,
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the worm certainly is turning right and people are starting
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to take notice of what's going on here. And if
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we don't understand the role that these lawyers and accountants
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and enablers play, then we're never ever ever going to
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be able to stop this. The OECD report notes that
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some countries have started to act the United Kingdom allows
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charges to be brought against enablers suspected of involvement in
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criminal activity. In Mexico, facilitators of crime can be jailed
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for up to see sixteen years. India's Special Task Force
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to identify and eradicate shell companies also tracks the specialists
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who make it possible. According to the OECD, now that's
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a good idea, Pretty nice that these countries are making it.
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Have a little bit of teeth, right, sixteen years in
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Mexico for being an enabler. Yeah, high five for that one, folks.
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Meanwhile here in America the party rages on for these scumbags.
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Other countries struggle with the novelty of having to prove
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a criminal case against experts who have long operated in
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the shadows. According to the OECD, independent reports reveal that
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the United States, from where lawyers, accountants and real estate
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agents routinely assist criminal schemes, has a particularly poor track record.
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In twenty sixteen, the Financial Action Task Force, which sets
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global standards for anti money laundering laws, describe the US
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weak regulation of enablers as the most significant supervisory gap
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in its fight against financial crime. The OECD will discuss
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it discuss its report next month during the organization's annual
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anti corruption summit. So the United States, folks, needs to
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get its act together. And you know where I'm at
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with that. The reason they have not cracked down on
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it is because these people are the ones that fill
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their banks with money for their political runs. What else
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could it be. There's no other explanation for this. So
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let's hope that the United States gets on board and
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the corrupt politicians in the United States start to get
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weeded out. Yeah right, and we get some people in
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there that actually want to hold people accountable for the
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crimes they commit.
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Speaker 2: Imagine that.
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Speaker 1: If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
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at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby cap
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you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find
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me on Twitter at Bobby underscore cap you Cci. All
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of the links that go with this episode can be
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folks so much. As for the show for the rest
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of the day, we'll see where the news brings us, folks.
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If there's nothing new to discuss, we're just gonna hammer
24:37
out a couple more flashback episodes. If something new pops up,
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we'll have a daily drop tonight. No matter what, I
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will be back tomorrow morning and we will get ready
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for the day at hand. All right, everybody, enjoy your Saturday,
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and I will talk to you all later. Article today, folks,
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from July eleventh of twenty nineteen, and it's an article
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that goes into the psychology a little bit of what
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was occurring with Jeffrey Epstein and is Core four. Now
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we've touched on this a little bit here on the
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podcast previously, and I let you know that I'm not
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qualified to delve into it, right, So there's a psychologist
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in this article who is going to talk a little
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bit more about the psychology aspect when it comes to
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Jeffrey Epstein and the Core four. So I thought that
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this would be a good add to the catalog, considering
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I am not qualified to speak on the psychological aspect
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of this, not in the least. I certainly don't know
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anything about the study of psychology besides what I learned
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in my psych one oh one class in college. So
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I've always shied away from that. I never jump into
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those sort of topics because I don't have a good
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handle on it. So I'm not going to, you know,
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hop on the podcast and fake the funk and act
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like I know about psychology. One I don't. But with
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this article, I think that this is going to be
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a good addition to the catalog because we'll hear from
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a psychologist here, and you know, obviously this person is
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qualified to talk about the psychology of the situation. Now,
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is this psychologist that you know was working on the
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inside or with Jeffrey Epstein. No, no, not at all.
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This is somebody who's giving their opinion from the outside
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looking in. But I think it's you know, a good
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addition hearing from an actual psychologist. When we talk about
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certain things on the podcast previously, like Stockholm syndrome, et cetera,
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et cetera, you know, those are things that obviously we
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all understand what they are. And the fact that you know,
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a lot of people who are in situations such as
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the girls who were abused by Epstein, end up with
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Stockholm syndrome. Right, But it's a topic psychology in general
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that I'm not very well versed in, so I have
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never gotten into the weeds there, right, we've never really
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gotten down into the weeds and discussed the psycho aspect
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of this case. So we're going to add this article
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to the catalog today and we'll see what this psychologist
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has to say about it. This article is from Fox News.
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It was published on July eleventh, and the author is
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Perry kaira Monty. What motivated for women to allegedly assist
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disgraced multimillionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein in his abuse of dozens
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of underage girls. The answer may consist of three possible scenarios,
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according to a prominent New York City psychiatrist. So again,
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this is somebody who is on the outside looking in,
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not somebody who was working the case per se. They
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weren't hired by Epstein or hired by the lawyers for
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the girls, anything like that. This is just a New
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York City psychiatrist who is looking at the facts that
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are available and giving their opinion on what they believe occurred.
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As far where as the psychology aspect right. The psychological aspect,
28:06
Doctor Alan Manovitz, a Manhattan based psychiatrist, stresses that it's
28:10
difficult to determine what their motivations may have been in
28:13
allegedly assisting Epstein. Yeah, for sure, we don't. Look. Nobody's
28:17
in their head, nobody's in their brains. Nobody knows why
28:20
they did what they did, why they would choose to
28:23
help Jeffrey Epstein. Obviously, we know that there were carrots dangled.
28:26
We know that there was money, prestige, great haircuts at
28:31
top end Salon's, food at top end restaurants, whenever you
28:34
wanted it. You know, two hundred thousand dollars salaries, So
28:38
we know all of that, right, those are definitely motivators.
28:42
But from a psychological aspect, from the way the brain works.
28:47
Who knows what made these ladies tick. Who knows why
28:50
they thought it would be a good idea to assist
28:52
Jeffrey Epstein. It's complicated to understand whether they did it
28:58
voluntarily or were controlled. Allah Patty hurst Man have it said,
29:02
And look, I agree to a certain extent that Jeffrey
29:05
Epstein was certainly a cult leader and he had these
29:09
people wrapped around his finger. But at the end of
29:11
the day, does that really matter? Did it matter that
29:14
Manson was a cult leader and supposedly he told his
29:18
followers to kill people? Of course it didn't Manson still
29:21
got charged and went up for the crime, right, and
29:24
so did the people who committed the crimes. So, you know,
29:30
you can say that you're controlled or whatever it may be,
29:33
but at the end of the day, you need to
29:35
have some personal responsibility for your actions. And we've lost
29:39
that in America for sure. People aren't responsible for their
29:42
own actions anymore. It's always blamed somebody else. Oh, he's
29:45
passing the buck, and I'm pretty tired of it. To
29:49
be honest with you, there are different psychological pathways to
29:54
explain inexplicable behavior, he said. One is the alleged accomplices
29:58
might simply be social passed by nature. Another is more complex,
30:03
according to Manovitz, and I would say that all of
30:06
these gals have at the very least some sociopathic tendencies.
30:11
Right to hang out with Epstein for as long as
30:14
they did, and to be involved with Epstein for as
30:17
long as they were involved with him, there has to
30:19
be a bit of sociopathic tendencies there, right. Besides, you know, again,
30:23
I'll always say, with the exception of Nadia marson Kova,
30:27
because she was purchased as a child, right, if anyone
30:32
can use the excuse of Stockholm syndrome or mental abuse.
30:36
It's Nadia Marsonkova the other three. I'm sorry, but I'm
30:39
not buying that with the other three. For most of us,
30:44
the fear of punishment prevents us from committing crimes. But
30:47
how many of us would do How many of us
30:50
would do it if we knew we could get away
30:51
with it? He said, Actually, not that many. However, there
30:55
are some who learn strategies to neutralize their moral compass,
30:59
and it is these people who may pose risks in
31:01
society later in life. So definitely, Jeffrey Epstein's one of
31:06
those people, in my opinion. Right, he'd never had a
31:09
moral compass his whole life. He was born effed up,
31:12
he was born a monster. These weren't tendencies that were learned.
31:15
These were tendencies that he just there were inside of him. Okay,
31:20
this is the kind of person he was. He was
31:22
evil incarnate, this man. And it wasn't something that he
31:29
built going along. It was something that he nurtured going along, Right,
31:33
These feelings inside of him, these disgusting urges in these drives,
31:39
for example, moral disengagement, the process of convincing oneself that
31:43
ethical standards do not apply in some contexts allow us
31:47
to rationalize criminal acts or those that harm others, he adds,
31:51
and we see that with Jeffrey Epstein for sure, and
31:54
we see it with Gilain Maxwell. They completely had themselves
31:57
detached from reality.
31:59
Speaker 2: They thought that they were.
32:00
Speaker 1: Living in their own world, a world of their own creation,
32:02
where they could get away with whatever they wanted and
32:05
commit crimes against whoever they wanted with no repercussions, and
32:09
they were allowed to do so for decades. So it
32:12
fed into their beliefs, right, it fed into their mental
32:15
illness that they were above the law, that they were special,
32:18
that they should garner special treatment. In reality, we know
32:25
that these people were just sick and mentally ill. A
32:31
third pathway can be the psychology of Stockholm syndrome, which
32:35
occurs when hostages or victims develop a psychological bond with
32:39
their captors. It refers to a nineteen seventy three bank
32:42
robbery in Stockholm in which hostages were taken, and this
32:46
is something that I definitely for sure think applies to
32:50
Nadia Marsenkova. Stockholm syndrome is definitely a real thing, and
32:55
it can be crippling. We've seen it time and time
32:57
again with survivors of this sort of situation or kidnapping, etc.
33:04
Speaker 2: Etc.
33:05
Speaker 1: So we definitely know that Stockholm syndrome is a thing.
33:08
And for me, the only person it could apply to
33:10
in this situation is again Nadia marson Cova. The other
33:14
three aren't gonna get that shield for me. They're not
33:16
going to get that bit of a you know, slack
33:20
from me because they knew what they were doing. They
33:22
weren't purchased as children, they weren't brought over here and
33:25
groomed from childhood. So you know, miss me with all
33:30
of that BS, this pathway is about people who suffer
33:34
from Stockholm syndrome and are acting under the control of
33:37
the controller, said Manowitz. In a hostage or domestic situation
33:42
or a work situation. The same person can be a
33:44
good controller or a bad controller. The person being controlled
33:48
wants to stay out of trouble and not have the
33:51
bad part of the controller emerge. It psychologically forces you
33:54
to try and see the world through the eyes of
33:56
the distorted world of the good version of the controller
33:59
to give you a sense of hope. And again I
34:02
don't mean to harp on it, but we see that
34:04
with Nadia marsen Kova. It's she has all of the
34:09
telltale signs of Stockholm syndrome. And if she would come
34:12
forward right now and step to the plate and help authorities,
34:18
then she could, you know, maybe give herself a little
34:20
bit of a different light here right at least somebody
34:23
who is searching for redemption. And then on the flip side,
34:28
she could expect to receive a little bit of a
34:30
lighter charge, a little bit of a lighter sentence than
34:33
the other Core four conspirators. But her staying quiet, her
34:37
not coming forward, what it does is it puts her squarely,
34:41
squarely on the side of the Core four and therefore,
34:45
as somebody, if I was prosecuting this case, I would
34:48
not give her leniency. Everything is contingent on her coming
34:53
forward and helping the case. You then try to attach
34:58
yourself to that and detach yourself from the bad, he continued,
35:01
You wind up on your toes to see the world
35:03
through the eyes. Because of this attachment, one almost becomes
35:07
brainwashed and wanting to keep them happy. Then you know, look,
35:12
that's all of those the Core four girls as far
35:14
as brainwashed to keep Jeffrey Epstein happy. And you know
35:19
the other three, in my opinion, went in with their
35:21
eyes wide open, and it was more of a financial
35:23
agreement that turned into a you know, a kool aid
35:27
drinking situation where they looked at Jeffrey Epstein as some god.
35:31
But going into.
35:32
Speaker 2: It, the three.
35:34
Speaker 1: A Graff, Ross and Kellen, they knew exactly what they
35:38
were getting into. They knew exactly what they were getting into. So,
35:42
you know, don't get me wrong. Once they were in
35:44
his orbit, I'm sure that he groomed them, all three
35:49
of them, and molded them into what he wanted. But
35:53
at any time, these women could have stepped away from
35:56
from Epstein, gave up those salaries and went to the authorities.
36:00
All of them chose to stay quiet, and all of
36:02
them chose to plead the fifth when they were called
36:04
upon to get justice moving in the right direction. All
36:11
of these psychological understandings do not forgive heinous behavior in crimes.
36:16
Man of it stressed, and I've said that too. There's
36:19
no excuse, there's no getting out of what you have done,
36:22
not even for Nadia Marsenkova. Maybe a lesser of a
36:25
sentence than the other gals, but this is no You're
36:28
not going to use this as a shield to avoid prosecution.
36:34
According to the new federal indictment unsealed Monday, Epstein created
36:38
a vast network of underage victims for him to sexually
36:40
exploit by conspiring with employees, associates, and others to run
36:45
what was essentially a sex trafficking enterprise between two thousand
36:49
and two and two thousand and five. We know it
36:51
was much longer than that as well. Right, We know
36:54
that it goes all the way back to the nineties,
36:56
and we know that it went all the way up
36:57
until his second arrest. So we understand that this isn't just,
37:04
you know, a three year deal where Epstein was trying
37:06
to be smooth. We know that this is a decade long
37:09
operation that spanned continents.
37:18
Speaker 2: It appeared that.
37:19
Speaker 1: Some of those associates included a group of four women
37:21
who were granted immunity in a controversial plea deal made
37:25
by then prosecutor and current Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta.
37:30
Epstein worked in concert with others to obtain minors not
37:33
only for his sexual gratification, but also for the sexual
37:37
gratification of others, according to a line from the court order,
37:41
and that's significant, right, So it's stating right here in
37:44
the court order that it wasn't only Epstein who was
37:46
involved in this. In the court order itself, it's telling
37:49
you this was a criminal conspiracy, a criminal enterprise, and
37:53
all of these people took part in the ritualistic abuse
37:55
of these girls. So how is this not a rico case?
37:59
How aren't these people slammed in the slammer? It's baffling, folks,
38:04
isn't it. The women who were granted immunity include a
38:10
former Epstein assistant, Sarah Kellen, who allegedly kept a rolodex
38:13
of young women to recruit for trist with Epstein. She
38:16
has since married NASCAR race car driver Brian Vickers and
38:20
started her own interior design firm called SLK Designs. A
38:24
recent article by The Daily Beast refers to public records
38:27
showing that Kellen once operated SLK from a midtown Manhattan
38:32
building owned by Epstein's brother. Now, if you haven't listened
38:36
to the Core four series yet, make sure you pop
38:38
back on there. Episode two is all about Sarah Kellen Vickers.
38:43
Adrianna Ross, a formal model from Poland who was hired
38:47
by Epstein in two thousand and two to work at
38:49
his Florida mansion and allegedly helped set up sex sessions
38:52
for the billionaire pedophile. She was questioned in twenty ten
38:57
regarding any participation by Prince Andrew and the tr trafficking
39:00
ring set up by Epstein. She had no answers to give.
39:04
Leslie Groff another former assistant who allegedly coordinated travel arrangements
39:09
with young girls in scheduled massage sessions for her boss.
39:14
Nadia marson Kova, one of Epstein's alleged sex slaves who
39:17
allegedly participated in his trysts with underage girls. She is
39:21
now a commercial pilot certified by the FAA and is
39:24
a social media influencer who goes by the name Global Girl. Well,
39:29
you could definitely like with the Sarah kell and Edward Vickers.
39:33
I mean, if you're interested in learning more about Nadia Marsonkova,
39:36
make sure you check out that Core four series where
39:39
we delve deep into who all of these girls are.
39:43
Manowitz did not speculate as to what may have motivated
39:46
these women to be complicit in Epstein's sex trafficking ring,
39:49
but he said that many people if they feel trapped
39:52
or forced to stay in line by a controlling figure
39:55
in their lives comply as a way to cope with
39:57
a dire situation thrust upon them.
40:00
Speaker 2: I don't you know.
40:01
Speaker 1: I guess that that can occur, right, But when it
40:04
comes to this case, these gals all came into this
40:06
with eyes wide open. They all knew what they were
40:08
up to. In my opinion, there's no there's no excuse
40:12
for what they did. There's no psychological shield for what
40:15
they did. These were grown adults who entered into this
40:18
with eyes wide open and of their own willingness to
40:22
be a part of this out of greed or whatever.
40:24
The motivation was not named in the plea deal, but
40:29
also alleged to have been complicit in helping to operate
40:32
Epstein's ring his former girlfriend and longtime confidant and co conspirator,
40:37
Gilaine Maxwell. In a twenty fifteen report, Virginia Roberts filed
40:43
a legal complaint in the state of Florida in which
40:46
she accused Maxwell of being Epstein's madam. According to an
40:50
article by the Guardian at the time. In the complaint,
40:53
in which Roberts was originally listed as Jane Doe number three,
40:57
it was alleged that Roberts was approached in nineteen ninety
41:00
nine by Maxwell when she was just fifteen, and was
41:03
pursued to sleep with Epstein. Roberts also alleges in the
41:07
suit that she was used as a sex slave for
41:09
nearly three years. And remember this is an older article,
41:14
and we've seen all of the evidence from Virginia Roberts, right.
41:17
We know that everything that she has talked about has
41:20
been legit and on up front. So it's important that
41:25
we make sure that we continue to chase down the
41:28
things that she's talked about and not forget players like
41:32
Marvin Minsky and other people who might be sliding under
41:35
the radar, right because at the end of the day,
41:39
none of these people should ever feel safe if they
41:41
were involved in this. In December of last year, The
41:46
New York Post reported that a separate lawsuit was brought
41:49
against Epstein in Manhattan, in which the plaintiffs, Sarah Ransom,
41:53
claimed that both he and Maxwell coerced her into having
41:56
sex while she was in her twenties. And again, look,
42:00
we talk a lot about the underage aspect of this case,
42:03
but I don't care how old these girls were. These
42:05
women were if they were assaulted by Epstein and Maxwell.
42:08
Then they're part of this case. They need to be
42:11
taken care of as well, and they need justice as well.
42:13
It doesn't matter if it was just you know, if
42:15
they were twenty five or forty five, who cares. Epstein
42:20
and Maxwell were serial abusers and what they did to
42:23
people that came into their atmosphere is utterly repugnant, and
42:28
the fact that it was allowed to go on for
42:29
so long is almost as gross as the actual act itself.
42:35
As recently as last April, a New Jersey woman came
42:38
forward in a sworn affid David with accusations of her
42:41
own against Epstein and Maxwell. According to the Miami Herald,
42:45
Maxwell fifty seven is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, a
42:48
disgraced publishing mogul who was accused of theft from his
42:51
company's pension funds to prevent bankruptcy. Boy, which comes from
42:55
great stock? Huh great stock? And also that just goes
42:59
to show you what I was talking about with the
43:01
money laundering aspect, right. Her dad was a prolific money launderer.
43:05
Her dad was an embezzler. You really think that didn't
43:08
trickle down to old daughter, O deer of mine? She
43:12
was on daddy's knee, learning all of the tricks in
43:14
the tricks of the trade, all of the tricks of
43:18
the trade from the cloak and dagger operations that her
43:21
dad was part of. This wasn't just a sex trafficking ring,
43:26
in my opinion, this was a money laundering operation as well.
43:34
The former owner of the New York Daily News was
43:36
found dead near the Canary Islands and the waters off
43:38
the Atlantic Ocean, just days after he was reported missing
43:41
from his yacht, The Lady gue Laine, named after his daughter.
43:46
Maxwell was born and raised in England and immigrated to
43:49
America in nineteen ninety one after her father's death. Becoming
43:53
a fixture in New York City social scene, Maxwell has
43:56
been photographed over the years hobnobbing with Prince Anne and Drew,
44:00
the Clintons, and Donald Trump.
44:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
44:03
Speaker 1: Look, there's no doubt about it.
44:04
Speaker 2: She was the gateway.
44:05
Speaker 1: She was the gateway into the world of the socialites,
44:08
into the world of the polite society of New York,
44:11
the same way Brockman was the gateway for Epstein to
44:15
get his foot in the door with the scientists. The
44:20
Oxford educated Maxwell was the youngest of nine children of
44:23
Robert Maxwell and his wife, doctor Elizabeth Betty Maxwell, a
44:28
French born researcher who authored two books on the Holocaust
44:31
and was also a descendant of the Huguenot aristocracy. Oh
44:35
it makes sense. Huh makes sense. So we got a
44:37
little bit of the inbreeding for Gilaine Maxwell along with
44:41
her just plain old stupidity. Huh, that makes a lot
44:44
of sense now. You could see her the inbreeding taking
44:48
its toll During her time in college. During the late eighties,
44:53
Maxwell started the KitKat Club, a speaker and discussion club
44:57
for women in her native England. In two thousand twelve,
45:01
Maxwell founded the TerraMar Project, a nonprofit group focused on
45:05
protecting oceans, and even gave a Ted talk on protecting
45:08
the oceans the Ted talk. Shit is nonsense as well.
45:11
You know what, these people are all one big group
45:14
of sick, disgusting bastards. Anytime you see one of these
45:18
people getting up on top of their ivory tower and
45:21
speaking down to you, Remember they all hung out with
45:25
Geelan Maxwell, they all hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. They
45:28
all knew the deal, all right. So next time one
45:32
of these idiots gets on their their ivory tower and
45:35
attempts to speak down to you and attempts to tell
45:37
you how you should see the world. Just remember who
45:40
they hobnob with. According to a two thousand and two
45:45
profile of Epstein in New York Magazine, she was described
45:49
as someone with a high octane social life that helped
45:52
boost his profile among New York's high society. Right there
45:55
in the article, it tells you what I've been telling
45:57
you for months, Okay, Gilne.
46:00
Speaker 2: Maxwell was.
46:03
Speaker 1: The vehicle that got Epstein into the higher society of
46:06
New York, and once there he was like a bull
46:09
in a china shop. Maxwell only dated Epstein for a
46:15
brief period, but they remained friends for years after. Not friends,
46:19
stop it, business associates, co conspirators, both being run as
46:24
assets by insert your favorite intelligence agency here. It's a
46:30
mysterious relationship that they have, journalist David Patrick Columbia said
46:34
in the New York Magazine interview. In one way, they
46:37
are soulmates, yet they are hardly companions anymore. It's a nice,
46:41
conventional relationship where they serve each other's purposes. Boy, how
46:46
telling is that statement. That's exactly what they do. They're like,
46:51
They're like parasites, right, leeching off of each other with
46:54
their symbiotic relationship, and there was no love there, at
46:58
least from Epstein. Gilaine might have you know, had some
47:01
flutters in her heart for Epstein, but Epstein was a
47:04
coal hearted mass serial pervert who had love for nobody
47:09
in his heart. And I don't I wouldn't even say
47:12
Guilaine had love for Jeffrey Epstein. She was enamored with Epstein.
47:15
She respected the way he conducted himself, she respected his
47:19
his deviousness and how evil he was, because within him
47:23
she found a kindred soul, right, somebody that was just
47:26
like her, somebody else that was hiding in the shadows.
47:29
And once they came together, they formed the brain trust
47:34
of the most heinous, disgusting, evil human trafficking ring of
47:40
our time. And the saddest part, folks, people in power
47:45
knew what was going on. People in power were protecting them.
47:51
This isn't a conspiracy at this point. These are these
47:53
are just facts, Okay, these are just facts. And it's
47:58
sad that in the year, twelve years after this man's
48:03
first arrest and decades after he started his crime spree,
48:09
there has still not been one single arrest of Jeffrey
48:14
Epstein's co conspirators. Still, no answers from the DA, no
48:21
answers from the SDNY. All we have are two lowly
48:28
jailhouse guards who are being brought up on criminal charges
48:34
in this case. Now, how does that pass any smell test?
48:38
How is that even acceptable, even barely acceptable anywhere on
48:43
this planet, considering all the evidence that is out there
48:47
for these co conspirators to be rounded up, how is
48:50
it possible that only two lowly jail guards are in jail?
48:54
Right now?
48:57
Speaker 2: What's the deal, folks? Right?
48:59
Speaker 1: What is the deal? Where are the authorities? And why
49:03
have they not done their jobs yet? All right, folks?
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