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Ian Furness 9/16 H1: We are live from the VMAC with a visit with Rylie Mills, Stewart Mandel and Gregg Bell! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KKRFM
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  Speaker 1: Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrew Coors Light Cold
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  Speaker 2: as the Rockies. I'm going to read this verbatim. This
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  Speaker 2: is what Ashley Ryan wrote down. Put a fork in them,
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  Speaker 2: they're done.
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  Speaker 3: It made me really sad to write it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll ask all of you, fill in the blank, who
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  Speaker 2: is she talking about? You get one guess. Mariners pitching
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  Speaker 2: showed up last night at Anaheim, thanks to Logan Gilbert.
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  Speaker 2: And company, the bats were nowhere to be found. They
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  Speaker 2: lose 2-1 to the Angels. Third loss in a row.
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  Speaker 2: They now fall six and a half games behind Houston,
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  Speaker 2: the AL West. Just ten games left. Mike McDonald is
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  Speaker 2: speaking any second now at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, is where I'm at right now as
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  Speaker 2: we speak. We'll get an update on Sam Donald's unique
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  Speaker 2: backside injury. Meanwhile, the Seahawks continue preparations for Week 2
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  Speaker 2: with Drew Locke under center. Devils are hiring former Kraken
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  Speaker 2: assistant coach Jessica Campbell as manager of player development. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: she was the first woman to serve as a full-time
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  Speaker 2: bench coach behind the bench here in Seattle. Kyler Murray,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, limited in practice today. Maybe he comes
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  Speaker 2: back sooner than expected for the Minnesota Vikings. The team
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  Speaker 2: itself actually announced that a short time ago. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: the show started. Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome in. As I mentioned, we are, I am,
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  Speaker 2: not Ashley. She's back in the studio.
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  Speaker 3: Story of my life. Everyone goes to fun places and.
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  Speaker 2: I sit here. I know, I know. That was the
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  Speaker 2: complaint from one Anderson Hurst and or... Jessamyn McIntyre, when
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  Speaker 2: they were doing the show for all those years. But yes,
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  Speaker 2: I'm at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. It's Wednesday. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of the first real full day of the week
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  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks. We got here. I met one Greg
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  Speaker 2: Bell here early. We're the first ones here at about
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  Speaker 2: 9.30 this morning. Rolled in. Seahawks were just getting out
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  Speaker 2: of their meeting in the big auditorium, which you saw
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  Speaker 2: a lot during Hard Knocks. It's right next to where
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  Speaker 2: we are at in the media room. Walked in and
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  Speaker 2: saw the players making their way out. Actually saw Sam Darnold, too,
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  Speaker 2: walking out of the meeting and They're getting ready for
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  Speaker 2: their preparations for the Arizona Cardinals on Sunday. Riley Mills
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  Speaker 2: is going to come by in just a couple seconds.
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks defensive lineman. Excited to talk to him. I've never
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  Speaker 2: had a chance to sit down and talk to him.
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  Speaker 2: And so we'll talk to him here in just a
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  Speaker 2: few minutes when he pops in here. Mike McDonald's scheduled
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  Speaker 2: to speak any second now. So we'll kind of monitor
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  Speaker 2: what he's saying. We'll probably play some of Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 2: coming up in the 2 o'clock hour as well and
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  Speaker 2: get the latest.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see if.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see what the guys... About 25, 30.
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  Speaker 4: Feet from me.
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  Speaker 1: Two.
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  Speaker 2: Walls away, can get out of Mike McDonald as far
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  Speaker 2: as Sam Darnold's situation is concerned. They'll try. Our guy
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell and others will try, but we'll see what
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  Speaker 2: he actually says. Busy show coming up today. Stuart Mandel
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  Speaker 2: talking college football with us coming up at 120 or
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  Speaker 2: 130 today, depending on Riley Mills when he pops in here.
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  Speaker 2: We'll ring up old Stuart Mandel. Big weekend in college
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  Speaker 2: football coming up, and we'll get to that with Stu. Also,
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  Speaker 2: at 1 o'clock, I had a chance to sit down
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  Speaker 2: with John Harlow. He's Washington State's athletic director. Extended conversation
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  Speaker 2: with him. And before you say, hey, Furness, too much
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  Speaker 2: Cougar talk. This is going to be bigger picture college
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  Speaker 2: football and college athletics. I find myself right now. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I was just talking to one of the guys out here,
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  Speaker 2: my man Doug, who's a news photographer for Como. We
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  Speaker 2: were just talking a minute ago. And he says, man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so turned off right now by college sports and
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  Speaker 2: college football.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, God.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the numbers don't say that. But I hear
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  Speaker 2: that a lot. that people are turned off by it
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  Speaker 2: and are tuning out or not really caring. And yet
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  Speaker 2: you look and see some of the numbers are massive.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was 14 million for Ohio State, Texas
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  Speaker 2: the other day, Ash. And I'm a weirdo. If I'm
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  Speaker 2: not doing a hockey game, I'm a fanatic. I'm watching
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  Speaker 2: college football for 12 to 14 hours a day on
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  Speaker 2: a Saturday afternoon or Saturday during the fall. But not
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  Speaker 2: everybody's like that. And one of the things I want
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  Speaker 2: to ask them about is this Protect College Sports Act,
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  Speaker 2: which made its first... significant step towards becoming a law
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  Speaker 2: yesterday with a vote. And I'm kind of more curious
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  Speaker 2: what it is, because there's a lot of people out
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  Speaker 2: there that are arguing for it, high-profile people, like Deion
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  Speaker 2: Sanders is on the commercials that are bought and paid
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  Speaker 2: for by whomever. Nick Saban has been very outspoken about it.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you take the politicians, our own Senator
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  Speaker 2: Maria Cantwell and Senator Ted Cruz from Texas aside, bipartisan bill,
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  Speaker 2: first of all. Like, both sides of the aisle are
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  Speaker 2: represented here. But if you take them away from it,
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  Speaker 2: because in today's world, if you attach oftentimes a politician
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  Speaker 2: to something, there's a negative undertone immediately, right, Ash? Like,
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  Speaker 2: it's right away.
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  Speaker 3: 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, Ted Cruz is doing it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like Ted Cruz.
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  Speaker 2: Maria Cantwell, I don't like her. That's what happens.
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  Speaker 3: Instantly dismissed.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask John what he thinks, because
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  Speaker 2: I think this is something that I believe– Power Four
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  Speaker 2: and Group of Six schools are all unified in wanting
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  Speaker 2: to see happen. But we'll kind of get a little
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  Speaker 2: one-on-one on that and where we're at in college athletics
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  Speaker 2: these days. So may even get into Bandgate a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: You have to.
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  Speaker 3: Got to find out what happened there.
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  Speaker 2: May get into Bandgate a little bit, too, and the
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  Speaker 2: future of the Apple Cup. I want to ask him
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  Speaker 2: about that. Nothing's off limits. So that's coming up. 2 o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: we'll probably hear from Mike McDonald. I think we're going
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  Speaker 2: to try to grab Corbin Smith if he's out here
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  Speaker 2: in the media room as well to join us to
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  Speaker 2: talk Seahawks too. So we've got a lot coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Before Riley pops in, and he could pop in any
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  Speaker 2: second now, I kind of joked about what Ashley wrote
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  Speaker 2: in the headlines. Put a fork in them, they're done. Ash,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a sicko, man. I watched that game last night. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: me too. And then I stayed around for the postgame show.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that is sick. Do you learn anything new or
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  Speaker 3: was it a tough one?
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  Speaker 2: I felt bad for Dan. And here's why.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: It's obviously the tough ones become a thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Tough one and nice become a thing. And first of all,
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  Speaker 2: great job. Let me give a shout out to my buddy,
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Divish. Seattle Times does not allow him to come
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  Speaker 2: on our radio station anymore because they're quite petty. But
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  Speaker 2: Divish was, when he first got here working with TNT
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  Speaker 2: doing high school sports, he's a friend and also a
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  Speaker 2: friend of the station for years before he got cut
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  Speaker 2: off at the knees. I just think he does a
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  Speaker 2: terrific job. And it's hard when you're the only person,
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  Speaker 2: and Piper goes through this sometimes too with the Kraken
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  Speaker 2: on the road. It's hard when you're the only person
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  Speaker 2: asking questions. I don't know what the Mariners are doing.
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  Speaker 2: They don't have a digital team on the road. It's
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  Speaker 2: very odd to me. And they only have one reporter,
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  Speaker 2: and that's Brad. He's on the field. He can't be
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  Speaker 2: two places at once. The investment is, I'll just say,
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  Speaker 2: quite small by the Major League Baseball team and their product.
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  Speaker 2: So it leaves Divich there by himself asking questions. And
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  Speaker 2: Dan was struggling for answers. And maybe now is the
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  Speaker 2: time to get the answers. But I think the tone
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  Speaker 2: of the questions that Ryan was asking are the tone
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  Speaker 2: that most of us are thinking. And it's, this thing's over.
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  Speaker 2: It's over, like Ashley just wrote.
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  Speaker 6: It's over.
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  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert then was on afterwards, and I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was fantastic. Ryan's story's up. I think the morning guys,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe even Greg and Jess ran the stuff. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Logan was kind of searching for answers too,
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  Speaker 2: but the gist and the summary of what he said was, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we all thought it was going to turn around. And
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  Speaker 2: he said, I think, these are Logan's words, I think, paraphrasing,
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  Speaker 2: I think we have a lot of talent in that
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  Speaker 2: room and it just never worked out this year. I
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  Speaker 2: think all those things are true.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: So now you got to think, Ash, how do you
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  Speaker 2: fix it? Right. How do you fix it? Because if
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  Speaker 2: you have the talent in place, right, how do you
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  Speaker 2: fix it?
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  Speaker 3: Right. I mean, because imagine how angry people are going
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  Speaker 3: to be if you're like, yeah, we've got all the talent.
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  Speaker 3: We're doing the same thing. We're coming back out next year,
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  Speaker 3: and we're just going to assume it was a fluke year.
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  Speaker 3: People will lose their ever-loving minds.
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  Speaker 2: Did you almost swear? Did you almost have to dump
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  Speaker 2: a button on yourself?
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  Speaker 4: I did almost.
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  Speaker 2: That would be a new one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I almost said the F word.
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  Speaker 6: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: They got me.
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  Speaker 4: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: That's what the Mariners do to me.
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  Speaker 2: I'd probably get in trouble for that one.
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  Speaker 6: We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: She never had a problem in the morning. She'll put
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  Speaker 2: her on the afternoon with you.
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  Speaker 4: It's your fault.
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  Speaker 2: It's all your fault. It would be my fault. Chuck
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  Speaker 2: and Anders were talking about it this morning. They had
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  Speaker 2: a talkback call in and the guy said, look, he
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  Speaker 2: kind of railed on the whole team. He says, we
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  Speaker 2: don't have... What did he say?
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  Speaker 6: It was great.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a third baseman. We don't have... We
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  Speaker 2: don't have a third baseman. We don't have a left fielder.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a right fielder. Our center fielder is awful.
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  Speaker 2: He kind of went through the whole roster. And Chuck
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  Speaker 2: vehemently argued push back against the guy. Well, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: The reality is they don't have a third baseman.
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  Speaker 4: Right. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to lose their left fielder in free agency
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  Speaker 2: in Randy. Do they have a right fielder in Dominic Kinzone?
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  Speaker 4: Probably.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they finally figured out he can hit left-handed pitching.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he can hit really well.
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  Speaker 2: It took two years, but, you know, they're finally, they
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  Speaker 2: put the iPad down, and he's actually able to hit
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  Speaker 2: left-handed pitching.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy what happens when you actually just do and
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  Speaker 3: don't just look at stats.
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  Speaker 2: Weird, strange, right? Crawford's gone at shortstop, but that'll be
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  Speaker 2: Cole Demerson, and Cole Young will be your middle infield.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is what you just said, though, Ash, is that,
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  Speaker 2: in theory, you could, you know, run it back with
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  Speaker 2: that core, assuming that Montez and Canzone, maybe Platoon, DH,
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  Speaker 2: slash Outfield. Maybe Montez plays left field. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But you could run it back. No problem. But people
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  Speaker 2: will lose, would you say, ever-loving mind?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: That was it. What does ever-loving mean?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But I've heard it before, so I used it.
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  Speaker 4: It seemed appropriate.
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  Speaker 3: Better safe than sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Than the F word.
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  Speaker 4: Very much so.
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  Speaker 2: FCC doesn't mind that. Yeah, I think with this, they've
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  Speaker 2: got the core in place. The concern I think most
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  Speaker 2: people would have is, what if, what if, Julio continues
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  Speaker 2: to regress and doesn't get better. And if you want
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  Speaker 2: to look at the one part of it is, it's
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  Speaker 2: the defense.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 6: It's the defense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been sloppy. It trickles down from there. He
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  Speaker 2: used to be an elite center fielder. Is he a
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  Speaker 2: center fielder anymore?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think he still is, but I just think he
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  Speaker 3: is a product of what this whole team has been,
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  Speaker 3: which has been brain fart moments.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And at times... Not laziness, but just, I think it's
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  Speaker 3: just mostly been brain fart moments, honestly, because it's things
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  Speaker 3: he knows how to do, and he's got the athletic
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  Speaker 3: skill to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I, you know, Cal, I think, is giving
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  Speaker 2: you hope that he can bounce back next year.
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  Speaker 4: I hope so.
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  Speaker 2: The last 25 games. But as our friend Nathan Bishop
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  Speaker 2: pointed out, in those 25 games in which Cal has
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  Speaker 2: bounced back, You know, he's been one of the best
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  Speaker 2: players in baseball in the last, you know, whatever. You
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  Speaker 2: can always pull out numbers in baseball. The last 33 games,
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  Speaker 2: the last 25 games, the last 25, but there are
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  Speaker 2: 11 and 14 in those games. And, you know, Nathan
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  Speaker 2: also pointed out something I thought was really interesting, and
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  Speaker 2: that is the fact that this team, the Mayors, they
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  Speaker 2: are in pace right now to have the worst, well,
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  Speaker 2: possibly could have the worst second half of the Jerry
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  Speaker 2: DiPoto era. Like think about that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like the worst second half of the DePoto era. That
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  Speaker 2: would be amazing because normally, and Joe Sheehan brought this
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  Speaker 2: up yesterday. Normally what happens is DePoto goes out and
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  Speaker 2: his second halves are built on making, making deals at
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  Speaker 2: the deadline and going from there. Right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But right now, God, Nathan, it's just a treat. Um,
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  Speaker 2: If the Mariners finish 5-5 or worse, it'll be the
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  Speaker 2: worst second half of the DePoto era. And remember, only
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  Speaker 2: two of these teams have ever made the playoffs during
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  Speaker 2: the DePoto era. But right now, their second half, their
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  Speaker 2: final 81, they're 29-42 with 10 games. Is it 10
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  Speaker 2: games left?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 10 games left.
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  Speaker 2: 10 games left.
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  Speaker 1: 29-42.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on a second.
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  Speaker 4: Come in. Come in.
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  Speaker 2: How we doing? All right. Ashley Riley Mills is here. Ian,
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  Speaker 2: how are you, man? Nice.
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  Speaker 6: Good.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have you throw that headset on. We're live right
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  Speaker 2: now on KJR. How about that? You've done this before.
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame guy. Smart dude. Knows how to do these things.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How are we doing? Can you hear me okay?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Riley Mills. Ashley, Riley Mills is here. Say
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  Speaker 2: hi to Riley Mills.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Riley.
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  Speaker 6: How are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: Great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing good today. Thanks for popping in.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't had a chance to talk to you. Wanted to
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: do so because a lot of Seahawks fans talking about
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: a guy they saw, even though he played in the
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: regular season last year at the end, made his... appearance
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl, and then last week, big game
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  Speaker 2: as well against the Patriots one more time. Do you
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  Speaker 2: just like playing against the Patriots? Is that fun for you?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess. I don't know. It's my favorite team
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  Speaker 6: right now to go against.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I want to have some fun real fast before
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: we go. The Hard Knocks thing. Did you watch Hard Knocks?
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  Speaker 6: I watched an episode, and I really tried not to.
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  Speaker 2: Did you watch the episode where you guys were doing
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  Speaker 2: the sledgehammer thing?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I got it sent to me by my mom
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  Speaker 6: and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Any doubt you're going to win that? No, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: when I was doing my knee rehab, all I did
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  Speaker 6: was shoulders for like eight months. So I was like,
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  Speaker 6: all right, cool. At least I didn't pick like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: right knee extensions or something.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. I want to go back. When you were
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: drafted in April of 2025, and it was day three,
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  Speaker 2: and we all were upstairs actually in the defensive meeting room.
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  Speaker 2: That's where they put the media. And we're all sitting
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  Speaker 2: up there. We're all doing the shows and talking. And
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  Speaker 2: it's day three, and they take this guy out of
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame. And I think most of us were like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Riley Mills. Yeah, got hurt, right? Got hurt. And Schneider
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  Speaker 2: gets up there, and he's effusive in praise about you. Now,
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  Speaker 2: they do that oftentimes, the day three guys, and we're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I tell you right, if this guy would have been healthy,
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  Speaker 2: he would have been a second-day pick, maybe a first-day pick.
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  Speaker 2: In the 20 years I've been covering this team, in
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  Speaker 2: the 17 with Schneider, heard that a lot. But I
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: think what you proved, that that's the case. How difficult
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: was that for you to not only get hurt, but
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: also see the dreams of being an early draft pick
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: and getting to the NFL and knowing what the challenge
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: would be? How hard was that year from the end
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: of 2024, draft of 25, to December last year when
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: you finally got on the field?
• 14:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I feel like, you know, obviously like initially getting
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: the news, it's probably like worst case scenario.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: Um, so it definitely like it crushes you a bit
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: when you first heard it, like it was a shock
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: for me, but it's kind of funny. Like, I think
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: the more I've kind of gotten like distance between that happening,
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: I kind of feel like it's the best thing that
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: could have happened for me. I think, you know, in
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: some weird way, like I had to be in Seattle,
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: like I had to be with AD and Heinz and,
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: you know, I really feel like that whole process really
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: made me reevaluate, you know, the kind of player I
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: want to be and the things I want to do.
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: Cause I felt like my last year I was, I
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: was playing really good football and then you know, got
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: it taken away. And I think that just put a
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: different kind of drive and hunger in me. And, you know, honestly,
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: like I remember like when I, when I got out
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: of the surgery and I was doing like, just trying
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: to lift my leg, like the only thing I could
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: think of was like, man, I can't wait to take
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: my next nap. Um, so, you know, for me, I
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: think it was a blessing in disguise and it had
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: to be like that.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: So Riley Mills with me and for us with you
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: here at Seahawks headquarters, Virginia Mason athletic center. I, I
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: get the feeling that you love football and I like,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: like if you're playing at this level, You're probably doing
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: it because you like the game. Maybe you love the game,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: but there also is a paycheck. But some guys love
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: the game. And I'll go back. The story that you
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: told us on that draft day when you did the
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: speakerphone thing and you dial in and we talked to
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: you and you talked about driving down because you couldn't fly, right?
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Driving down to watch your boys play in a bowl game.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: That tightness, but that also tells me you love the game.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: You want to be around the team. That's part of that, right?
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Is that kind of your personality?
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I love football. I love my teammates, too. I
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: couldn't imagine not being with them, especially at a big game.
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: But I think that's what's so cool. At Notre Dame,
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: we were all a super tight brotherhood. Even here, you
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: get to Seattle, and every guy in this locker room
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: is super cool. I feel like we just have a
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: great group of guys. I love football. I love playing
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: with great guys and just having a great locker room.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: It's just kind of everything about it. I love it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: I have to ask about that because you come in
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: as a rookie, and you're hurt. And that's hard. And
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: guys don't know what– you didn't get hurt here, but
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: they just see the rookie standing there with a sleeve
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: on his legs, watching practice during training camp. They're busting
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: ass in 90-degree heat. But you were accepted, it feels like,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: right from the get-go. How did that work? Who were
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: the guys that just said, hey, get through it. We're
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: here for you because you talked about that brotherhood in
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Who wasn't here when you were kind of
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: the outside guy coming in that really kind of took
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: you in?
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like the older guy– we especially have
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: a vet room in the D-line room. So I think
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: it was definitely Leo and Jay Reed. Yeah. you know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: Chena and those guys. It was cool because, you know,
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: Chena had a quad injury or whatever he was going through. So,
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: it was kind of, you know, I just watched him
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: a lot and saw what he did and tried to
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: copy his process because I know he's had a lot
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: of success. But, yeah, it's not the easiest room to
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: come into, like, when you can't do anything. So, for me,
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: I was like, all right, everything outside of out the
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: field I'm going to try to do great and, you know,
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: stay on top of my recovery. But then even, like,
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: when we went out there, you know, for me, my
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: thing is I don't want to have anything mental. So,
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: I would, like, I would walk through every drill we did.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: I would you know, me and the other rookies would
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: go out, we'd walk through like all the, all the fronts,
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: all the adjustments. So I felt like mentally I locked
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: in so I can kind of prove myself in some
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: way that like, Hey, I kind of know what's going
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: on here.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: So when you stepped on the field for the first time,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: you felt comfortable, not just physically, but mentally you like,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I know what to do.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: I felt great. And I felt like, you know, AD
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: and Heinz did a great job of kind of preparing
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: me for that. Like, you know, even though I wasn't playing,
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: they still, I was in, you know, 80s office watching film,
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: watching offenses. So I felt like that made it easier, honestly,
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: because when I came back, it was, Really just about, like, hey,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: making sure the knee's good. But everything other than that
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: I felt, you know, pretty comfortable with.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Riley Mills with me right now. Riley, one of my
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: favorite guys to cover over these years, and he's had
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the two stints here is Jaron Reed.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: Love the guy.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: He's just a fun guy to talk to. He's the
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: alpha male, man. He is, he's, like, he's, and he
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: learned under all those other guys. Michael Bennett and Cliff
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Averill and that group of dudes. What's Jaron Reed like
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: for you guys in that room?
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: He's funny, bro. He might be the funniest guy on
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: the team. I just think he just kind of says
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: what's ever on his mind, but he's funny. I think, like,
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: I don't know. We have to call him Big Slime.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: That's his nickname. So I'm like, we all call him that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: He's good with that?
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. He's really good. But yeah, he's just like,
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: he's different, bro. He's a different guy, but he's funny.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: He runs the show though, right? Like he sets the
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: tone in a lot of ways.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he does. Yeah, we kind of, we feed off him.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: So like when we go out for game day, you know,
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: he's giving his speech. Give me two barks or something. Yeah,
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: he's always got something.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: And for you to work with a guy like Leo.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: What's that like, just to kind of be a guy
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: that can watch him and how he prepares, how he
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: handles himself on and off the field, all those things?
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he does everything the right way. You know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: it's cool for me because I feel like I haven't
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: really played with a D tackle that was, like, really
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: my size, like, had my height and stuff. So it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: cool to see how he handles, you know, different things,
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: different adjustments. And I feel like I've been learning a
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: lot on, like, how to use my size and length.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about that, because you are
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: different body type. So is he. Longer, taller than guys
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: that play kind of on the inside a lot of times,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: and there's leverage things and all that. How much do
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: you have, because in college you probably were able to
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: bully guys, and that's just the way it is, but
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: you get to the NFL, you're not doing that as much,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: so how much is the technique, the little techniques and
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: things like that, especially with body type, does he help
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: you with?
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a lot of just getting yourself in
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: the right positions. I think it's stuff that he might
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: not even think of, but it's like, alright, he's lining
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: up in this adjustment, or he's in this technique because
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: he knows this is coming, so I've just been watching
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: that a lot and just trying to take as much
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: as I can because he's going to go down as
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: a Hall of Famer.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: He's something else. Riley Mills for a couple more moments.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price, you know him well. When he cut back
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: and had 13 yards, I don't know if you were
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: standing on the sideline or not or watching or getting
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: ready to go out there, but 13 yards in his
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: first carry a little cut back in the nfl and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: i think all seahawk fans are waiting to see that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: like okay okay we're good we're good what what should
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: fans know about your former teammate.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah i mean i think exactly what he put out
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: there i think he's just he's hungry for an opportunity
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: and you know honestly when he got that first 13
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: yards i was like yeah that's what i expected i
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: figured he'd go out there and ball out so He's
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: going to have a great year, and I think the
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: more he gets comfortable and he gets adjusted, I think
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: the sky's the limit for him. So it's going to
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: be awesome.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: You get to go against another ex-teammate this weekend. What
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: are you expecting from Mr.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Love?
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: There we go. He's quick, man.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: He's quick.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: But it's going to be cool. It's cool to see him.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: He's doing his thing, and he's getting adjusted. But I
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: think I'm excited for it. It's going to be fun.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: For you personally, before I let you go, I feel
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: like you're scratching the surface. Are we just seeing the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: start and the beginning of what you're about? I mean,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: we saw you make some plays again against New England,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: all joking about the Patriots. I think that's the two
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: games that have been really kind of big ones for you.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: We've seen you jump out. How much more is there
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: for you?
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like I'm just getting started on what
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: I can do. I think the work I put in
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: camp and the confidence I have, I think just every
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: day I go out there, I'm getting a little bit better. Yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: I feel like I'm just getting started.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: How much fun is it playing? You played in one
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: of the great stadiums, one of the great programs in
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the country. You come here. I always feel like there's
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: a little collegiate atmosphere in Lumen. What's it like playing here?
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: I think it's almost even crazier. I think that game
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: on Wednesday was probably one of the coolest games. Next
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: to the Super Bowl, I think that was one of
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: the craziest atmospheres. This is probably my favorite stadium all
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: the time.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: When Joe made that pick, could you feel the place
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: shaking a little bit?
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I couldn't hear. I think we went back to
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: the locker room, and I was like, I think my
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: ears are still shaking.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Hey, much more to come. Congratulations on getting
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: this thing going. Great to see you healthy out there
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: and just getting things started. Riley Mills, thank you. Appreciate it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: We'll take a quick break. Riley Mills stopping by. Coming
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: up next, we'll talk to Stuart Mandell, all things college football, next.
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  Speaker 2: best will do. Now with Stuart Mandell, here's Ian. Alright,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: welcome back. Sports Radio 93.3 KGFM. Ian Furness with you
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: at Seahawks headquarters today. And in full transparency, this is
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a taped interview. We had to tape this a little
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: bit earlier because I'm juggling some things with the NFL team.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: But Stuart Mandel is with us, the athletic. You guys
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: all know him. Audible podcast as well. And he's joining
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: us right now as he does every single week.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Hello, Stu. How are you?
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: I'm good, Ian.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: How are you?
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I'm great.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I'm great.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: We're going to get into everyone's favorite topic in Seattle.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: That's Oregon struggling. We'll get to that in just a
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: couple seconds. But before we do that, you wrote a
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: story over the weekend. I think it was posted Sunday
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: or early Monday. Interesting dynamic. And John Harlow, Washington State
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Athletic Director, is going to be with me coming up
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: at 1 o'clock today. And I'm going to ask him
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: about the Protect College Sports Act. It got through one
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: of the stages yesterday in Congress. So maybe getting closer
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to a vote, we'll see. I'll ask John to kind
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: of give me the one-on-one, but I think the dynamic
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: you wrote about was interesting to me. And I think
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, the amount of time ESPN spent
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: on college game day, normally a show that's previewing college
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: football games on a topic like this, how surprising was that?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: What jumped out at you about that?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, going back to the episode, the first week
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Nick Saban, who is kind of the face of the
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: protect our sports act used a segment about LSU and
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: the NFL players to just kind of Completely unchallenged, obviously.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: This is why we need to pass the Protect College
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: Sports Act.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: And then the next week, Ted Cruz asks to come
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: on to talk about it, and they give him the floor.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: They got a lot of blowback for it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: They actually had the president of the NAACP on SportsCenter
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Tuesday to give the rebuttal. But, you know, I have
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: to give Ted Cruz and all those people a lot
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: of credit. Like, their messaging has been very effective. And,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: you know, like you said, that first procedural vote, 76
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: senators out of 100 voted. are in favor of it
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: right now. And that's despite the fact that, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: we think we all, we can all agree that college
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: sports is a mess right now in a lot of
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: different ways, but they have done an incredible job of
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: convincing people that there's this crisis that only the Senate
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: can save them from.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: You know, actually your home state Senator Maria Cantwell put
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: out this big report yesterday about, you know, lots of
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: charts and graphs about how the spending is out of control.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: And at no point does anybody ever blame that on
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: the schools themselves. It's those pesky players. They had the
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: audacity to go to court and start getting paid. And
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: now we're all going to go bankrupt. And, you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: the same, I've been reading the same headlines for 20
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: years about how these schools are struggling to, to, you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: stay above water and they're spending more than they have. And,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: and that's because of coaching contracts and buyouts and facilities
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: and all these other things. So, um, it looks like
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: the Senate bill is going to pass and that's a
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: big milestone for them. Then there's this whole other, well,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: is it going to pass the house and you have
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: midterm elections coming up. So I don't know that it's
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: close to the finish line, but it was a big
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: step for them.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: It was a big step. I think it's, I find
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: it fascinating just from the standpoint of it's, you know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: we're coming up on, on midterm elections here in a,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: in a month or a month and a half or
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: so in our country. And, you know, everyone's, you know, the,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: how you vote and vote by mail, that's a big topic,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: but you know, who's going to control the, the, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Washington DC, what's that going to do for the white house?
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: All those things are coming into play. This thing I
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: find interesting because there is some money behind it. Like
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: you can't watch a college football game now without seeing
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: three or four ads. Deion Sanders, the face of it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I find that an interesting dynamic real quick. I want
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: to get football, but I find it interesting that Deion
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: is very much front and center promoting this, you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: protect college sports act when the NAACP is very much
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: against it. Um, It doesn't take a lot to read
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: between the lines what's going on here. I mean, protect
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the players on one side, and Deion's trying to protect
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: programs and rosters and so on and so forth. But
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: there's some money behind this thing. There's no doubt about that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really been several years. I mean, the conferences
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: have been lobbying Congress for about five years now. Tony
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Petitti told me at Big Ten Media Days he's been to–
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: I don't remember the exact number, but he's been to Washington, D.C.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: a lot since he started on the job, right? And
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: for a long time, they couldn't get anywhere. And so
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden in the last couple of months,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: they've gotten a lot of momentum for this. But yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, they've gone on a full on blitz.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: They've spent millions of dollars in lobbying and now these ads.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: And I don't know that you saw a lot of
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: opposition because I don't think the rest of the people
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: who weren't pro were even all that engaged on it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: It just wasn't that big a priority. And now it's
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: basically at the finish line. Suddenly there's, well, wait a minute,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: Chris Murphy, the senator from Connecticut, like now maybe we
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: should speak up about it. But I don't think that's
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: going to change much in the Senate.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Well, Stuart Mandel joining us from the Audible podcast, The
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Athletic as well. His mailbag is out today. You can
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: check that out. Oregon is a big topic of conversation.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe a salary cap would be good for teams like
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Oregon who are paying quarterbacks $ 8 million a year to
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: go on the road and get upset by Oklahoma State.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That might come into play. You know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: in today's world with 12 teams, Stu, a loss by
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Oregon or a loss by Ohio State, they're very different losses.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: One was to a top five team. The other one
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: was to an unranked team. Let's start with Oregon. How devastating,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: how bad can that loss be in the big picture
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: for what they want to accomplish?
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, obviously we don't know. Oklahoma, there was
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: nothing fluky about that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: And it may be that Oklahoma State losing to Tulsa
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: in week one was the big fluke and that they're
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: going to go on to have a great season. They
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: certainly have a lot of firepower. But for Oregon, I'm just,
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: it didn't totally happen in isolation. We saw against Boise State,
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: their defense didn't play well in that game. And then
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: we see them just get shredded against Oklahoma state. I'm
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: not even as concerned as much about Dante Moore, who
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: didn't have a great game either. But like, if that's
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: Oregon's defense this year, if they're not going to get
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: much better than that, they're not going to make the playoff.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: They play USC in less than two weeks. Jaden Mayava
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: could absolutely shred the defense we saw the other day. However,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: we know teams get better, teams get worse. And it's
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: not a question of talent. Oregon has a bunch of
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: guys that could have gone to the NFL last year. Um, frankly,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: the D-line and the linebackers are all seniors, which makes
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: it all the more surprising. But what did change, obviously,
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: is Tasha Lupoi going to Cal. He was Dan Lanning's
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: original DC there. So he was there, what, four seasons?
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: He leaves, they promote the safeties coach, and it doesn't
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: look the same, at least through two games. So, you know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: that's more concerning to me than Ohio State going on
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: the road and losing by a point to a top
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: five opponent.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: With Oregon, Stu, I think there's a narrative out there
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that that Dan Lanning doesn't do well in big games.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's entirely accurate. There have
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: been some well-documented high-profile losses against highly ranked teams, Indiana
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: a couple times, et cetera, Ohio State, Rose Bowl, things
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: like that. But by and large, I know that it's
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: wild in this sport, right? People just kind of get
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: attached to things. Well, Dan Lanning can't win big games
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: against top 25 teams. That's not necessarily true, is it?
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: He's 15-9 against ranked teams. He's 6-6 against top 10 teams. Like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: to me, those are perfectly respectable numbers. The problem is
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: when he does lose, oftentimes, it's by a lot. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: people get that image from the Rose Bowl a couple
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: years ago, obviously the Indiana game in the playoff last year.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: And even he said, right, like 39-31, it was not
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: as close as the final score. So it's like they
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: lose a lot of those big games in kind of
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: embarrassing fashion. And I think people obviously remember that. But remember,
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: they shut out Texas Tech in the CFP. quarterfinal last
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: year right like They scored a gazillion points against James Mattis,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: and I'm sure people will downplay that. But the year
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: that Ohio State clobbered them in the Rose Bowl, they
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: beat Ohio State earlier that year when they were ranked
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: number two in the country.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: So no, I think that's a bit of a misnomer, but.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: I get why I get why it comes up, and
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: I also get why, if you're an Oregon fan, you
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: come into this season expecting this team to be even
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: better than last year's team. And so you're pretty alarmed
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: at what you're seeing so far.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I think, as you mentioned too, you have a chance,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: this team does the rest of the year in a
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Big Ten, to get plenty of good resume wins on
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: the table, and they'll very much get right against Portland
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: State Friday night. The Texas win by Stark. All the
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: other stuff aside that everybody's talked about, I'll move on
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: from that with Holly Rowe and Laura Replidge and all
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: the interviews and Sark being Sark and Arch doing stuff.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Let's move past that just on the field. How significant
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: a win was that for Sark in Texas?
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it was big because they looked like
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: they were going to get run off the field and
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: that would not have gone over well because when you're
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: a Texas coach, you're always in the hot seat. So
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: not only did they get the win, first win over
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: a number one team there and I forget 70 years,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: something like that.
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: That's the kind of thing that can have a lot
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: of momentum.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: How does, and I'm talking, and I think specifically about
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Arch Manning, who for three quarters or maybe two and
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: a half quarters look like this was going to be
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: another he's overrated kind of game. And then he, he
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: caught fire. Is that what vaults Texas to having a
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: great season? Because I do think what they showed is
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: they could win the national championship. They do have that
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: kind of team. It's just a matter of consistency, right?
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: And arch in particular, that's, that's, that's what makes him
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: such an enigma to me is like, you see the
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: good moments like that second half of the A &
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: M game last year when they beat an undefeated A &
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: M team.
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: But sometimes the first two, three quarters are brutal.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: And he, you know, he had a couple fluky plays
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: where the receiver where camp Coleman, right.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: The ball deflects off of him and it's an interception.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: He also had a lot of really shaky play. So,
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: it's what they needed. If this is going to be
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: a national championship kind of season, they needed that for sure.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that first interception, definitely not his fault. And then, yeah,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I thought a couple drops along the way as well
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: in the first half. But when it was on the line,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: he stepped up. There's no doubt about that. I think
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: a ding was a great way to put it. Stu,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: a little shorter this week, so before I let you go,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: let me just throw this at you. We've got, I
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: can't even fathom what the atmosphere is going to be like.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: A lot of our friends, my friends went down to
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss last year for the game with Washington State
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: played at Ole Miss against Lane Kiffin's Ole Miss team,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: and they just marveled at what a great atmosphere that is.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: That was nothing compared to what we're going to see
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: on Saturday. Lane Kiffin comes back to take on his
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: former team, LSU, Ole Miss. It's the marquee game this weekend.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch it. I can't wait to
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: see what goes on. I hope it all stays somewhat civil.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that will happen. What are your
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: thoughts on this thing coming up?
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: We've never seen anything like it. Obviously, you see coaches
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: go back and play their former team. But it's usually
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: not this soon. And it's usually not Lane Kiffin leaving
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: on the brink of the playoff, stabbing them in the back,
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: saying in Vanity Fair this summer that he would lose
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: recruits there because of the racial history. He's just done
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: everything he possibly could on the way out after he
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: left to stab them in the back a little bit more.
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: I hope everybody stays safe. I really do.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure Lane will have sheriffs around him
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: at all times. I'm a little more worried about, I mean,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: if LSU fans go there, that could be nasty.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: It's going to be nasty. There's no other way around it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: He had a golf ball thrown at him in a
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: mustard bottle at Tennessee, and that was more than a
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: decade after he left there. This is three weeks into
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: the next season.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: It's going to be nuts. Who's got the advantage here?
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: at quarterback Sam Leavitt or Trinidad Chambliss?
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: Oh, definitely Trinidad Chambliss.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think we need to come around to
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: the idea if we haven't already, that he might be
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: the best quarterback in the country. He's, he's dangerous. He's
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: so good at improvising. I think Sam Leavitt's pretty good.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: He had a rough start against, against whoever they played
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: last week.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: It's escaping me.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: He, he had a rough start in that one for sure.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: He had a couple of interceptions, but in the Clemson game,
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: We saw a side of him that we didn't really
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: see that.
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: Much at ASU. I think he ran for over 100 yards.
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: It's going to be a great matchup. I think the.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: Key will be we saw Ole Miss defense really struggle
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter against Louisville. They're going to have
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: to get that together because LSU's got a lot of weapons.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a great weekend. Can't wait. Things
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: are starting to heat up. Final weekend really for the
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: most part of non-conference games, and we'll really ramp it
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: up next week. But that game's going to be fantastic.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Tell folks about the Audible, Stu.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: The Audible is myself, Bruce Feldman, Ralph Russo, three days
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: a week. You can join us live on YouTube for
• 34:49
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• 34:51
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• 34:54
  Speaker 2: It's fantastic. And, of course, you can read Stu's work
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: at The Athletic, theathletic.com college football tab. I've got great
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: recaps and also the Wednesday mailbag is one of my
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: favorite columns as well for all college football fans to
• 35:03
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• 35:05
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week, Stu. Thank you.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: Thanks, Ian.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel joining us. We'll take a break. Come back.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: John Harlow, Wazoo Athletic Director, with me coming up at
• 35:12
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• 35:47
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• 35:49
  Speaker 4: She did. Oh, did she?
• 35:51
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• 35:53
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• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Ashley, good morning. Good afternoon. Good afternoon.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell came in. I popped in during the commercial
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: break for a second with Stu. Actually, I told everybody
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the taped interview, so I went in there to listen
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: to some of the stuff. Let's just go through the
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: quick news of the day, Greg, real quick. And we'll
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: hear a little bit in the 2 o'clock hour from
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the man himself, Mike McDonald. Run through the Sam Darnold
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: situation where we're at.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Well, the coach made it official that Sam Darnold's not
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: playing on Sunday, which was the obvious, of course. Drew
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Locke is starting. I asked him if the Seahawks are
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: cool rolling with just two quarterbacks, meaning not signing a
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: third one, and he said yes. They're going to go
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: with Locke and Jalen Milrow. Interestingly, he said that Milrow
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: is going to get snaps with the first team this week.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: That's unusual in the NFL. Backup quarterback usually gets zero,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: and of course we know Drew Locke got zero snaps
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: heading into the New England game, but We know Jalen
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Milrow has gotten zero snaps in a regular season game
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: now in his second NFL season. So they need to
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: prepare for the possibility that he has to play meaningful
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: snaps on Sunday, which is why they're going to yield
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: some of Locke's snaps this week to Milrow during practices.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Nicky Manwari and Torrey Horton are going to practice today.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: He said the Seahawks will go from there towards Sunday's
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: game at Arizona. We've seen Meemawari practice recently, but in
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: limited fashion. So it'll be interesting to see how they
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: term him today on the practice participation report. And they
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: went on and on. He went on and on about
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Drew Locke and his preparedness and ready to go and
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: all of that. But I asked him, since it's not
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: a long-term thing, first of all, is Sam Donner going
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: to injury reserve? He said no. And then I said, well,
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: can he do anything? Is he totally shut down so
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: they're trying to calm this injury down? And McDonald said
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: that Donald is, quote, killing it on his rehab. He's
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: doing a lot. He just can't play Sunday. So that's
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: encouraging on the beyond Sunday.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Interesting to see in the early stages when we can
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: watch practice when they walk out there the first six
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: minutes or whatever it would be. Does he walk out?
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Correct, if he's even on the field. Maybe in the
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: training room.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I thought you asked a great question to Cooper Cup
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: when I was in there. Tell people what the question was,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: because I think it was really an interesting insight in
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: how the NFL works. We've talked about this with Mike
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Holmgren for years, but just to hear from the receiver himself,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I thought it was an interesting dynamic there.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Well, thanks. I asked him last season when Drew Locke
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: did not play any meaningful snaps, and Sam Donald, of course,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: started them all and went 14-3, and they won the
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl. How many snaps did Cooper Cup and how
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: many passes did he get from Drew Locke? How many
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: first-team reps did Drew Locke give– Cooper Cup. He looked
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: at me and said, not many. I said, how many?
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Like 10 for the entire 20-week season? He said, if that.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: About that number. That tells you how ad hoc and
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: on the fly that Drew Locke performance was and how
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Locke practiced and writing his plays on the whiteboard next
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: to his bed and how all that contributes to a
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: backup quarterback trying to prepare without getting field time. Drew
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Locke was running the Patriots plays last week. That's how
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: different this week's going to be in that if they
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: are going to put Jalen Milrow in, Drew Locke's going
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: to yield some of those starter times.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: That's kind of why I'm surprised that they didn't sign
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: a guy to the practice squad just to be the
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: scout team quarterback.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Because if Milrow's got– if we're being honest, Milrow's got
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: a lot on his plate.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: He does.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: A lot on his plate this week.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: That you would sign a third guy just.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Just to run the scout team for the Cardinals.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Um, so they're not doing that. So, I mean, it's,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: that makes it a little bit more challenging for what
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Milrow's got to do, but yeah, if. Think about that
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: if you're a Seahawks fan. If Drew Locke threw 10
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: passes all last year to Cooper Cup and Jackson Smith
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: and Jigba and whoever else is in the rotation, that
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: means that Jalen Milrow threw zero.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: And so now Jalen Milrow, that's why it makes sense
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: to give him first-team reps because, in essence, and even
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: in training camp when we're watching things, Jalen Milrow doesn't
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: throw to Cooper Cupp or Jackson Smith and Jigba or
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Rasheed Shaheed or Torrey Horton. He didn't throw those guys.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: No.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: He doesn't.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: And so he's throwing to– hell, he's not even throwing
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: to Foster and anybody else in the 53 men. He's
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: throwing to guys on the practice squad.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: So, you know, that's an interesting dynamic coming into play.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Eamon Worry, real quick– It feels like he's close.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: It does. The question will be, is he close enough
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: to come back where he doesn't have any concern at
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: all of relapsing or missing time after he comes back?
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: This medical staff has a history of waiting on the
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: longer side of that to make sure a guy, we
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: don't want to bring him back just to have him
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: out the next week or two. So if they aren't
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: fully convinced, remember, he has not played since the Super Bowl,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: and he's not had a full practice since the Super
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Bowl yet. We'll see what they designate him today. But
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: if I had to guess, I think he's still probably
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: going to be another game or so.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Limited, I'm guessing. I'll put money on limited today for
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: a practice report. Same with Torrey Horton. All right, that's
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell. We'll check back in. Of course, he's on
• 40:58
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• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Let's do this. We'll take a break, come back. One
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: of the things we've been talking about, and we talked
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: about this with Stuart Mandel a moment ago, what the
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: hell is the Protect College Sports Act? What is that?
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And why do you care as a fan? We'll talk
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: about that. John Harlow, athletic director of Washington State University,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I sat down with him. It's not all wazoo, not
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: all crimson gray relax. It's more bigger picture college football,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: which is in a state of flux right now. We'll
• 41:21
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• 41:23
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