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Patriots Unfiltered 1/28: Turning the Page to Super Bowl LX, Bill Belichick Hall of Fame Snub, What to Expect during Super Bowl Week · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, now do you have to dark breaking it down?
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  Speaker 9: All right?
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  Speaker 2: So we got a lot to talk about with the Patriots,
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  Speaker 2: and top of mind, I've got a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: ask me what do I think about the news that
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  Speaker 2: Bill Belichick didn't get into the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: I think anything that he's done the last couple of
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  Speaker 2: years here or after he left here, short of murdering somebody,
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  Speaker 2: he should be in the Hall of Fame. First ballot,
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  Speaker 2: no questions asked. I don't know what they're doing. I
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  Speaker 2: think this fifty person room is, you know, playing games
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  Speaker 2: with people's lives. And I'll include Robert Craft in that
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  Speaker 2: too in pastimes. I don't know if he's going to
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  Speaker 2: get in this year or not. I know he's eligible,
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  Speaker 2: but not getting in, Like, what is the criteria that
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  Speaker 2: you're saying they can't get in. It's just it's just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: The whole Billpoleon thing. I don't know if I voted
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  Speaker 2: for him. I can't remember. I mean, come on, if
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  Speaker 2: you have somebody on your panel that can't remember who
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  Speaker 2: he voted for, it's time to replace that person, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, Either that or he's just lying, which Pa
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  Speaker 2: Lion would be my guest, you know, So what are
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  Speaker 2: we doing here? I mean, and I don't even care
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  Speaker 2: if these things are public knowledge. I don't care to
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  Speaker 2: know who voted on who. I just want to know
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  Speaker 2: that the people who are doing the voting are on
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  Speaker 2: the up and up and are not doing anything based
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  Speaker 2: on politics, past grievances, all that bs. As long as
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  Speaker 2: I know that they're doing it based on their accomplishments
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  Speaker 2: in pro football, then I'm good with it, but it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't sound like that's what they're doing, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: pisses me off. Whether it's you know, people players from
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  Speaker 2: the Dynasty, Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick, come on, come on,
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  Speaker 2: what are we doing? And you know what, until they
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  Speaker 2: fix it, fans should say I'm not watching your ceremony,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to your ceremony, and then maybe they'll
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  Speaker 2: wake up because now it's money. Now it's money, and
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  Speaker 2: until it's money, they'll never do anything.
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  Speaker 3: So there rant over.
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  Speaker 4: So I have a couple of questions when I was fourteen,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't know if you have any of the
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  Speaker 4: answers to that.
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  Speaker 5: I think Fred was more fired up than Bart, which
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  Speaker 5: I think is hard to do it.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just a Bill Belichick thing, which I think
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  Speaker 2: is stupid. It's just overall, this thing keeps happening over
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  Speaker 2: and over again.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I do think that it's a very flawed process.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, just I'll state I'm with Fred everything
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  Speaker 4: you said. It's ridiculous that he wouldn't be a first
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  Speaker 4: ballot Hall of Famer. If there's a definition of a
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  Speaker 4: first ballot Hall of Famer, it should.
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  Speaker 6: Be Bill Belichick. So I get that out of the way.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of questions. Number one, how does this leak out?
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  Speaker 4: How do we know this?
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  Speaker 3: That's a good question, because you usually don't.
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  Speaker 9: I think it leaked out.
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  Speaker 5: My feeling is that it leaked out because they knew
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  Speaker 5: how controversial it was going to be, and they wanted
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  Speaker 5: to kind of let it leak so that next week
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  Speaker 5: when the guys at act, the guys who got in
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  Speaker 5: right let it pass like her maintenance could be.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good theory, but that kind of annoyed me
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  Speaker 4: that they leaked it out. And the second part of
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  Speaker 4: it is, and I don't know how you feel about this,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like the reasoning was about sort of the
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  Speaker 4: scandals yea, more so than his personality.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they say.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what they're saying because no one's
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  Speaker 4: fessing up as to who it was that didn't vote
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  Speaker 4: for him. Right as far as I know, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm with you on that. Like the hue and cry
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  Speaker 4: over the transparency, I don't. I couldn't care less about.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I can't stand really the whole Hall of Fame talk,
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  Speaker 4: the discussion, the debate.
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  Speaker 6: It bores me. But this is just silly.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the guy won six Super Bowls and he's
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  Speaker 4: not in the Hall of Fame, and I mean that's
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  Speaker 4: just silliness. I mean, I think anybody that can rationally
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  Speaker 4: look at that objectively would say that he's a Hall
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  Speaker 4: of Fame coach, right, So there's no argument against it.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't think it has as much to do
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  Speaker 4: with the writers sticking it to them because he was
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  Speaker 4: mean to them in press conferences, as much as it
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  Speaker 4: is all the cloud around him with the scandals.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think either way, I think it's just as silly.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to defend one over the other. I
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  Speaker 4: just a lot of people are saying, well, this is
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  Speaker 4: what happens when you.
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  Speaker 6: Treat people like that. I don't think that's why.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I wouldn't put it past them, no, I mean
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  Speaker 10: in the league, it's filled with overly competitive and petty
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  Speaker 10: people across all ranks, and I'm sure it's filled with
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  Speaker 10: people in that voting block and whatever their reasons might
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  Speaker 10: have been, but it's just been resounding. I've never seen
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  Speaker 10: so much support for Bill Belichick. I don't I remember
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  Speaker 10: the last time with everyone coming out to.
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  Speaker 2: See Like I said, it doesn't matter what happened the
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  Speaker 2: last few years here or post being here.
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  Speaker 6: No, you should be judged on the entirety of his career.
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  Speaker 2: So like, yeah, it's crazy what's going on with him
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  Speaker 2: after with the girlfriend and everything, and the last few
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  Speaker 2: years here weren't good, but that doesn't take anything away
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  Speaker 2: from what he accomplished here, and that's why he should
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  Speaker 2: go in. I have two conspiracy theories that I know
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  Speaker 2: both are wrong. One is that at least ten people
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  Speaker 2: got together and said, you know what, without Brady, Craft
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  Speaker 2: or Belichick wouldn't even be sniffing this place. So until
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  Speaker 2: Brady gets in, we'll wait for them to get in.
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  Speaker 3: So that was one, Yeah, that was one.
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  Speaker 2: The second one was the Hall itself got to at
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  Speaker 2: least ten people and said, we'd really like to get
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  Speaker 2: them all in together. Let's wait for Brady to be
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  Speaker 2: available and then we'll put them and then you can
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  Speaker 2: vote them all in together.
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  Speaker 6: For in other words, for money for money.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, but I see that one your money, and I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I hear both those arguments, or both those potential conspiracy theories,
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  Speaker 5: but I don't think that that's like really fair.
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  Speaker 3: No, it isn't. None of it's fair and you're playing
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  Speaker 3: with people's lives.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm also not talking about just which ballot you
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  Speaker 5: get on. But now it's like, you know, like I
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  Speaker 5: think Brady should have his own moment, like you know,
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  Speaker 5: and like now you have to like split it up
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  Speaker 5: by three people, and like just like thinking about it,
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  Speaker 5: like from our perspective, Oh my goodness, Like you know,
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  Speaker 5: like so you have our owner, our head, the coach,
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  Speaker 5: and the greatest quarterback of all time all going into
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  Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame on the same weekend, right like
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  Speaker 5: that that, I just think all three of those people
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  Speaker 5: kind of deserve their own sort of day.
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  Speaker 2: Well, regardless they're not, none of they're all going to
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  Speaker 2: have to know, yes, regardless of when they get in,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna have to share it with some other people.
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  Speaker 9: But it's not gonna like no offense.
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  Speaker 5: But like when Tom Brady gets in, it's going to
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  Speaker 5: be the Tom Brady show.
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  Speaker 9: It's not going to be about the other four people.
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  Speaker 6: I understand what you're saying.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to be the big ticket item. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: would you know that. That was just I don't know
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  Speaker 5: this whole thing. The reason why I'm big on the
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  Speaker 5: names thing because I am is like, I think that
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  Speaker 5: a lot of these Hall of Fame voters shouldn't have
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  Speaker 5: a vote anymore.
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  Speaker 9: And I think we need to No, I mean like,
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  Speaker 9: I want to know who's voting.
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  Speaker 6: I don't see. I don't agree with that because I
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  Speaker 6: think that it's.
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  Speaker 5: One it's really easy to hide behind, and it.
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  Speaker 6: You're not going to you know, that's my point.
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  Speaker 9: What am I going to do?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 6: What do you do?
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  Speaker 5: You hold their feet to their fire? Like what they mean,
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  Speaker 5: how you're gonna say how public works?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, but they care, but they exactly they disagree with you.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think you should.
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  Speaker 5: I have long thought that the people that are voting
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  Speaker 5: for this are like just I don't think they're very compay.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think they're very argument. The fifty names are online.
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  Speaker 6: You can go out at them on Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know who they voted for, but think this.
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  Speaker 9: I don't I want to know who doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: But think of it this way. We know who voted
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  Speaker 2: on baseball, it doesn't matter. You can agree, disagree, or
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  Speaker 2: agree with that. They don't have to tell you what
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  Speaker 2: but they do in baseball they tell you why they
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  Speaker 2: voted or not voted.
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  Speaker 3: But we've known in baseball who votes for it and
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  Speaker 3: it's no big deal.
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  Speaker 5: So I just feel differently. I feel as though, you know,
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  Speaker 5: this is a very prestigious honor. It's a very prestigious
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  Speaker 5: hall of fame. Uh, it's not basketball who lets every
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  Speaker 5: single like two time All Star into its Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 5: And it does have some strict barriers in terms of
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  Speaker 5: who gets to get in and who doesn't. And I
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  Speaker 5: think that it should be brought into question these people's
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  Speaker 5: knowledge and these people's grasp of football.
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  Speaker 9: And I mean that from a.
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  Speaker 5: Historical perspective and in an next is a nose perspective,
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  Speaker 5: And so I just don't I think there's not enough
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  Speaker 5: people that actually are as we like to say ball knowers,
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  Speaker 5: that are voting on these.
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  Speaker 8: Do you really think it's football is? I think it's more.
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  Speaker 11: They don't.
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  Speaker 6: There's nobody that thinks that he didn't win.
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  Speaker 5: I think other people that haven't gotten in or have
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  Speaker 5: struggled to get in, ties to the fact that they
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  Speaker 5: don't really understand what a defensive end in a three
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  Speaker 5: four does.
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  Speaker 9: They don't really understand what a nose tackle does.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that they fully understand, you know what
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  Speaker 5: goes into all those individual things and it usually gets
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  Speaker 5: voted upon as like a resume thing of he went
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  Speaker 5: to five Pro Bowls and six all first team All
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  Speaker 5: pros and this that the other thing. You know, just
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  Speaker 5: read the box score, read his Pro Football reference page,
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  Speaker 5: and that's not how every single player made an impact
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  Speaker 5: of In.
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  Speaker 3: All due respect, I hear what you're saying, and.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, you know such thing as a Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 6: Like a guy.
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  Speaker 2: Like Troy Brown is probably the smartest football player I've
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  Speaker 2: ever seen, and ball knowers would recognize that.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't think you should go in the Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame. I don't think you should either. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: vote for him for the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 4: But there's a like, based on your criteria, no one's
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  Speaker 4: qualified to vote in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if a lot of media people are
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  Speaker 5: no one. I mean, I'm not saying a lot of
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: One, no one.
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  Speaker 9: Like I think that there's a lot of would.
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  Speaker 4: They should find like you know, sorry, but no, not
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  Speaker 4: based on that criteria. Maybe you could get some kind
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  Speaker 4: kind of a panel of coaches, right, it have to
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  Speaker 4: be coaches, But I don't think they're qualified because they're
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  Speaker 4: not as up to speed on what's going on in
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  Speaker 4: the game currently.
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  Speaker 5: Right well, at least liked them to have be able
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  Speaker 5: to explain better. We can all read their Pro Football
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  Speaker 5: Reference page and look at their stats and look at
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  Speaker 5: their career accolades and decide whether this guy's had you know,
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  Speaker 5: enough yards, enough receptions, enough touchdowns to be a Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame wide receiver. Everybody can do that.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of like the criteria they have now if
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  Speaker 2: they stuck to it, which is, how did they compare
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  Speaker 2: to other players that they're positioned in their era.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't think that. I don't think they do
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  Speaker 5: a good job. I just think it's it's a flawed process.
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  Speaker 9: They didn't do a good.
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  Speaker 5: Job, you know, last year, like that class was ridiculous,
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  Speaker 5: Like Luke Eakley didn't make the Hall of Fame, Adam
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  Speaker 5: Vitti didn't make the Hall of Fame. Trell Owens they
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  Speaker 5: kept out for three years because of some personal vandetta
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  Speaker 5: against him.
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  Speaker 9: Just kind of like this thing with Bill and I think.
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  Speaker 2: Clear ad him in my ran. If he's not in
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  Speaker 2: this year, that's another This isn't.
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  Speaker 9: Just my point is that this is not just a
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  Speaker 9: one time thing.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a very flawed process. They continue to
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  Speaker 5: get this wrong and they've lost the trust they've lost.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I don't care about how in any sport, right,
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I just Fred and I like did far
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  Speaker 4: too many people in halls of fame period in all sports.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not the way I would do it. It's
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  Speaker 4: a very flawed process.
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  Speaker 2: Don't watch, don't go. Even if you're not a Patriots fan.
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  Speaker 2: Today it was Bill Belichick. Tomorrow it could be your
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  Speaker 2: player or huge or owner. So send the message. Until
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  Speaker 2: it affects them in the pocket, nothing will change I.
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  Speaker 5: Feel, I mean, I feel this way, like I mentioned, like,
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  Speaker 5: it's not just Patriots. Oh no, they left spots open
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  Speaker 5: last year, and they left one of the best linebackers
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  Speaker 5: of his year, maybe the best linebacker of his ear,
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  Speaker 5: off the ballot.
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  Speaker 2: But that makes no sense it and I hear you
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  Speaker 2: that's but that's debatable, right.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think it's.
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  Speaker 5: Really with Belichick, but it is. It is debatable candidate,
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  Speaker 5: not Bill Belichick. But I do not I don't think
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  Speaker 5: that it's very debatable, right, And you.
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  Speaker 6: Said in your opinion and your opinion that's and anybody
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  Speaker 6: that's watched.
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  Speaker 2: Getting like, I can't, you can't, and and that's fine, Eavan,
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  Speaker 2: but like and you should stick to your guns. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that we should burn the house down
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  Speaker 2: because of differing opinions.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, I mean I think you guys are misunderstanding what
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  Speaker 9: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, you're saying that you're the only one who
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  Speaker 6: knows enough to know that.
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  Speaker 9: I didn't say that. I didn't say that.
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  Speaker 6: It's a very I think Fred just put it perfectly.
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  Speaker 6: It's a very subjective thing.
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  Speaker 9: Let's move. I didn't say that, no words in my mouth.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no. But you are saying that you believe it's
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  Speaker 3: it's a no brainer.
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  Speaker 6: You said, it's not debatable. That's what you said. It's
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  Speaker 6: not debatable.
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  Speaker 9: It's it's very hard to make a case.
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  Speaker 4: He's not just because with you on, Luke doesn't mean
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  Speaker 4: Mike cast do or maybe I don't agree with what
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  Speaker 4: Mike does, like I.
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  Speaker 5: Think No, I think these things are actually more black
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  Speaker 5: and white than you guys do.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, I think it's a yes or no, and I
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  Speaker 9: think that.
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  Speaker 3: But I would have a very small hall.
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  Speaker 5: That's but I think that part of the issue with
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  Speaker 5: this whole thing. And you know, some people put this
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  Speaker 5: out there last night. It's like there's five candidates for
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  Speaker 5: three spots and you put three on your ballot.
• 15:29
  Speaker 9: That's credit.
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: It's like it's now now, like it was.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: A year, and I'm just if there was a year
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: that was on the ballot, Curtis Martin, Jerry Rice, you know,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Dan Marino, name name, the illuminatory course should be twenty
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: in that class.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: If those people happen to be on the.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: Same That's sort of what I think is a better
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: way of trying to say what I'm trying to say.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: Guys that are Hall of Fame caliber players, it's are
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: they or are they not? It's yes or no, And
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: we can debate whether or not they are or not
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: based on off the credit, you know, our personal feelings.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: But my point is is like this should not be
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: a situation where like it's so technical about how exactly
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: it comes.
• 16:10
  Speaker 9: Did you ruin it? We all think he's a Hall
• 16:12
  Speaker 9: of Famer, Yes, he should be in the Hall of Fame.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: No, I agree with that way of doing it, like
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: it should be if you have to think about it.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: No, the did you guys see the Mike Sando tweet
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: last night about what may have happened.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: With the vote.
• 16:27
  Speaker 9: That's what i'm.
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: That's what i'm and that's that's what made me think
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: of it.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Now, I'm totally with you, but it was and I
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: want to call it up because I want to give
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: There's no way I could possibly explain it, okay, you know,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: maybe for some, but not for all, because obviously eleven
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: or more had to vote not not put him on
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: their ballot.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: Right because he needed forty.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: And this is according to Mike Sydy says, in my opinion,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: I think some voters just think about all the finalists
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: should get in and then favorite candidates who have been
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: eating longer when forced against their will to choose by
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: a system that is trying to push them in another direction.
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: That is not me.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I believe in picking the best candidates every year, and
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: if some worthy but lesser guys fall by the wayside,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: that's the way it goes.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: And I want to get to how can I find this? Okay,
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: here it is.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I'm a Hall of Fame voter who saw his sort
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: of hypothetical as to how this may have happened. I'm
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame voter who saw Belichick as a
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: slam dunk. I don't know anything about the voting results,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: but if this is true, and we'll find out officially
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: next week, the question is how good this happen? Before
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I list possibilities, understand this. Belichick, Craft, Craig Anderson in
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Greenwood are competing for the one to three spots as Evan.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: This is why when Evan started down this road, I
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: totally understand where he's coming from. And this is separate
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: from the fifteen modern era finalists, which obviously Adam Vinteri is.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Among fifty voters each pick three of the five between
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: one to three make it forty plus votes needed for
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: anyone besides the top vote get.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: Or to make it. It's a zero sum game.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Huge change made in twenty twenty five, two hundred and
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: fifty total votes to go around for five candidates with
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: a high bar for clearance. Now we count the potential
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: ways Belichick might get fewer than forty votes, even when
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: forty plus on the committee think he's a Hall of Famer.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Let's say four or five voters who were strong advocates,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: were specific senior players, figured Belichick was going to make
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: it in regardless, so they funneled voters to competing candidates
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: in hopes of boosting them over the forty vote threshold.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Let's say a few voters prioritize senior players in their
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: thinking that Belichick will be back in the room next year,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: while players on the ballot this year might disappear into
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: the senior pool forever. Let's say a few voters found
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Spygate cheating disqualifying. Let's say a few voters protested the
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: new rules making coaches elible one year after retiring instead
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: of five years after retiring. Whatever the case, I would
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: see this as a repeat mudiation of the new voting
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: rules implemented for twenty twenty five, not of Belichick or
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: any candidate not making it. There will be changes in
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: this process, I predict. So I would just say that
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: whole long confliction, and Mike Sando is as thorough as
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: they come when it comes to this kind of stuff.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: This is not a shot at Mike Sando. Matter of fact,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I applaud him because I think this is a very
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: plausible thing. Does that sound like any kind of a
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: rational way to decide? Evan Lazarre is a Hall of Famer,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Mike Dessau is not. Now that's absurd, That's absolutely absurd,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: because you think that Bill's going to get in any way,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: but the senior guy is probably going to fall into
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: the pool next year and he'll go by the wayside.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna or I'm going to try to make
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: sure that I bump up that senior guy with extra
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: votes because Bill's getting in any way. Like they should
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: have to vote for who they think is a Hall
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: of Famer and there should be no cap This whole
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: one to three of these guys, like Evan just said.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: Is absurd.
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: And I think that that's what's this. It's like.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: It's it's like an electoral college situation where you're not.
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: Winning, you know what I mean.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: And it's like, I don't know, this is a hall
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: of fame. It's a yes or no question. Is he
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer or is he not? And like
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: I said, we can argue or debate if he is
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: or isn't not Bill, but like other people, but it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: it should be black and white. It shouldn't have to
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: be all this other nonsense that goes into it. And
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: you know, I stand by what I said. I I
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: just feel as though that they get this so wrong
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: so many times that now I'm like questioning the entire
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: voting body and like questioning whether or not some of
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: these people should be losing their vote.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Some people just don't be able to They don't know
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: what to do with power. And this is power that
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: these people have. They have power over people's lives and
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: they just don't know how to handle it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: If they were getting it right, I wouldn't be sitting
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: here saying, you know, questioning their like you know, knowledge
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: or ability or whatever to vote on it. But every
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: single year there's something crazy that happens that you're like,
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: what do you mean, Like, what are you guys doing?
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and this is the biggest one though, But I
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: still were you guys surprised?
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: Like I mean, I think we all kind of talked
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: about potentially being an.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Issue every year that Craft doesn't get out of surprised.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: And I'm surprised at this as well.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: If if Craft and Belichick don't meet the criteria.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: For who does.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But to your point, Mike, I remember when because
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: we talked about came out and I went back and forth.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: And I said I could see it. Yeah, but I
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: could see it because of the pettiness.
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah right, and that might.
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: Driving a guy of Bill Belichick, who is, let's face it,
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: polarizing across the league. And I'm sure there are plenty
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: of people in that committee that have very strong feelings
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: both ways towards him, that it took something like this
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: to really shine the light. I've never seen an outpouring
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: like this of people being like this is absolutely ridiculous,
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: Like this guy is, by most accounts of the greatest
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: coach of all time, certainly most accomplished head coach.
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: But this might be what it takes.
• 22:03
  Speaker 12: I was.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I was surprised last night when I saw that. To
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: answer the question, I was even though I.
• 22:08
  Speaker 13: Thought there was a chance it could happen, but I
• 22:11
  Speaker 13: didn't really think because these kinds of things I always think,
• 22:14
  Speaker 13: and I kind of think like how I would feel,
• 22:18
  Speaker 13: and I'd be like, I'll be damned if I'm going
• 22:20
  Speaker 13: to let them say that I let any kind.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Of personal bias get into this. I'm going to go
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: out of my way to make sure I vote for him,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's kind of what
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I thought would end up happening. And you know, maybe
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: they maybe ten or twelve of them had to hold
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: their nose to vote for him.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: But I figured, yeah, he would, he would walk walk in.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: I really did.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I also think that, you know the whole, Oh, we're
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: gonna keep them off this year as punishment, but next
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: year he's a Hall of Famer, right like that, Now,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: now you're just being petty. And then on top of it,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: like he should be a first ballot Hall of Famer
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: and you just took that from him.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: That is not you to be the arbiter of punishment,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: right you know, So.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: If you're gonna put him in next year, that makes
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: it even worse because like now, and you're also taking
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: a spot from somebody that might be worthy next year
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: because he goes back into the coaches committee.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: That's a good point too.
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: And so all these.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Other coaches that are still going to be waiting, they
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: get bumped again for another year because Bill still isn't in.
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: And does Bill if he goes in next year, does
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: he say, you know what, I'm not coming this summer.
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to do a speech here.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Because to be there the whole, like.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: These all these varying criteria, to me, the problem just
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Fred's has it perfect If if you have thirty guys
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: that are no brain or Hall of famers all at once.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: They all should go in at once. If you have none,
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: the next year you have none.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Like this shouldn't be like you need to have five
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: to seven modern era finalists and one to three of
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: the coach, contributor whatever senior categories. Like what if the
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: senior guy is just a guy who's a no brainer
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer and somehow just fell through the cracks,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: you know, and then the coach is Bill Belichick and
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: the contributor is Robert Kraft, Like, so we have three
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: locks for the Hall of Fame.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: They can't go in because you can't have them all.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: Like that's dominant.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: It's stupid, you know what, Damn you because we should
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: be talking Super Bowl and the Patriots and now you
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: got us talking about this Craft's arguing with each other.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: We're no, it's the whole that was like a picky
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: owing thing. The whole process is so flawed. It's just
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: and I think it's like that for all the sports.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Jeff Kent in the Baseball Hall of Fame.
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: But Devn's point, I mean, Torell Owens was the last
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: big player to kind of get hosed and to go
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: through this drama with the Hall of Fame and now
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: with Bill doing it hopefully that I mean, I just
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: I've never seen anything like it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: That was just everything all of football Twitter last night.
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: YE had nothing.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: I had to put my phone down. I was like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I don't want to read about this anymore, and like.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Send any tweets regret.
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: I got back to the film.
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: I thought, I thought. I was like, is this is
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: this overwhelming?
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Or now?
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: Then next al Fourier tweeted like, is there a way
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: I can adjust my algorithm to stop seeing all the outpours?
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, even Mike Florio is on his side, like
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: you know, like even people that we know I've had
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: bones to pick with him in the past, you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: players like you know, I saw Jonas Gray, who all
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: the reason in the world to not like Bill, even
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: he said, what the heck are we doing?
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: You know, like it just everybody. It was everybody.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's what's happening.
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: That's what's happened. So who's gonna get in.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's gonna be nothings leaked out about vinetaria craft,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: So maybe that's good.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: I find it weird that that leaked out.
• 25:48
  Speaker 14: I do.
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: I like Evan Singer though.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: That's a goodd that's gonna be on Thursday night next week.
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: And I think I think they knew the pr was
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: going to be so.
• 25:57
  Speaker 10: Bad it would have overshadowed everything. And that's all of
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: NFL Honors Nights.
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: NFL Honors MVP might be Drake Mays the MVP, but
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: we're going to spend the next forty minutes talking about
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: how Bill Elichick I got something.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Telling you folks, don't support the sham, don't do it,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: don't do it? All right, what do we got Patriots wise?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: This whole thing with with Drake May and his shoulder
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: and everything. Yeah, you know, uh, it.
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: Might be a little it might be a little rusty
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: and little banged ups. Hoping he gets better.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: It seems it seems like it's kind.
• 26:27
  Speaker 10: Of sucking the air out of the room, this story
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: right now, where it's like, you know, I get it,
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: he might be hurt, but it's all signs sound like
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: he's gonna play, and he doesn't seem like he came
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: out of the game. And it wouldn't be a super
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: Bowl if our quarterback wasn't question, just like the Brady
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: ankle thing from Super Bowl forty two when he got
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: hurt against the Chargers and you know, was then.
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: In a boot, and so this is he's heard thirty six.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thirty six was ankle.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was in a boot in right shoulder.
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: Every week.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, there's a lot of it's a
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: combination of you know, Doc Chow and all these people
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: saying that they saw something on the thing on the video,
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: and then also I think, you know he hasn't played
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: well yeah, and you know he's missing throws that.
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: This is why he's just he's been hurt. Obviously, this
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: is what it is.
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: But I think that that's pace of it, right.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: I not to like absolve it, but like I think
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: that you know, there's throws on film that he's made
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: all year long that he's not making in the playoffs,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: and you're just kind of like, what's going on here,
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: and especially in this last game against the Broncos. And
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: I think now all of a sudden, you know, he's
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: missing short like guy that has a great arm is
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: it can't get the ball there all of a sudden,
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: So people are wondering, you know what what's going on?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Hard to judge anything from that second half on Sunday.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I'm you know, I know that when he ran for
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: that first down, he pumped his right arm.
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: Fist, so he stiffed armed the guy.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I think with today's therapy and all that stuff, he'll
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: be ready to go.
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: I'm not worry three too. I mean, you guys remember
• 27:54
  Speaker 10: getting hurt at twenty three. I was like, oh, I
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: feel crappy for a day and a half.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Not like I'd be profen tonight, I'd be playing tomorrow.
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: Right right now, It's like I'm gonna be feeling like
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: crap for the next week.
• 28:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: When he said on the radio yesterday with EEI I
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: thought was interesting, which was more he was talking less
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: about like structural damage and more about.
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: Like fatigue, wearing like like arm fatigue.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: He said, he's been throwing, you know, going back to
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: training camp thirty thirty five weeks now, and that's a
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: lot longer than he normally ever has or ever would.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: You have to put him on a pitch count?
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and so I do wonder about that a little bit,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: but especially the practices here this week, Like, is really
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: any reason for him to go out there and throw
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: thirty five times in tomorrow's practice, Like maybe that would
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: take it a little easy.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: So is this the first practice of the week.
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: No, no practice today, doing a lot of media stuff.
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: We've seen, right the guy's walking through the tunnel. We
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: saw that, you know, the set and everything they're getting
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: ready to to.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: So NBC is in the house today and they're getting
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: all their stuff ready for the game because they're the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: network doing the game, and so they get all the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: you know, Ramandre Stevenson, you know, and all that stuff,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: and they look at the camp. They have their uniforms
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: with the Super Bowl patch. So they had to redo
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: all the stuff that they had during the season.
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: I like the patch patches got a little flavored now
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: to it. It's yeah, for a while it was just
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: the silver numbers.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: Like I like when they go back to they all.
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: Had a little bit of design and in the city
• 29:17
  Speaker 10: and remember that.
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: Miami.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I guess they were like, it's a palm tree.
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, I don't know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: It's not California enough for you.
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: We have to be like Arnold California, like California.
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: Do you understand what I'm saying? Right, it looks kind
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: of like Hawaii Fi or something.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: Tropical.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think if San Francisco is even if
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: it was l A, I would think it would be
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: more appropriate than for San Francisco.
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: As you know, as you know, mister.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So Mike has promised to guide me to the
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: best in and out burger.
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: I find there's an our local.
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: Uh, it's not gonna be like me and have been
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: trudging through the desert of Las Vegas to uh we
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: were like, but ye looking forward to getting some maybe
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: some Mexican food out there.
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: They got real good Mexican food in California.
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: To Chinatown, maybe northern California.
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think even there, I think Okay, I don't know.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I know it is more you know, it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: Sneaks out afterwards. There's no sneaking about it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I just know in San Francisco, Chinatown's like like very
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: big there.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, as well, you.
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: Go to Gia Deli get some chocolate, okay, Deuce, Marcus
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: cool Marcus.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little concerned about the traffic. I'm hearing
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: all this. So if you have to go forty.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Miles, you need two hours and a boy, oh.
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: Boy, that'll be fun. Traffic in California.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, we promised we wouldn't complain about so
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: we're not gonna We're not.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: We're not even there yet. We're broke our own rule.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: We're not gonna do that. No, I just back to
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: the Mexican food.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: No.
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: I just the weather's killing me right now with this
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: projected Sunday weather. Of you know, I know, we're trying to.
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: Get out and maybe there's a rally.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: The weather here.
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: You're out and it's like there might be a no
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: o'easter coming back in, and that's just kind of you
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: start to get angry.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Can you just get the snow stop it?
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: I know, I know, but the.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: City right now is a mess. So I can't imagine
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: if we get hitt of another storm.
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: Right, I mean, there's like.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Where do you put it because the roads are so narrow,
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: and there's so many little side streets and half of
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: them aren't plowed, and it's now it's just like getting
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: padded down by the cars going over it.
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: And it's a mess. It's a mess. There's a car
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: stuck in every corner like you.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, buried?
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah? Not good?
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Not good? All right?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Eight five five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Is the email address?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Anything else we need to go over before we start
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: opening it up to everybody.
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: No immediate news. I mean, and they will practice tomorrow
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: and Friday, so he'll get a couple of days.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I have an injury report and estimated don't practice today,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: but they have to give an estimated injury report. So technically,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: if there's something going on with Drake May then he
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: would be on.
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: He doesn't have to be.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: No, it's estimated.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Well he should be if there's something going on, he
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: should be based off the rules, Does he have to
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: be No, I don't.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure about the rules for estimations.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: It was like, it's isn't it based on the last
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: time that he practiced or played?
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: No, it's based off of if they were to have
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: practice today, would he have participated in the practice.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Based on the last time they practiced or played? Right?
• 32:40
  Speaker 15: No?
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: Well, yeah, but if he has an injury, then he today.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, you understand it, Okay, all right? I mean
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: I don't expect him to be on any injury reports
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: over the next two weeks. I don't expect to see him.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: But Devan's right, if he got hurt in the game
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: or aggravated something that he was already dealing with in
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: the game, then.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: By the letter of the law, he would be on
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: the injury report.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: But I don't I don't think it's significant enough to
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: land him on the injury report, even if there was
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: something that happened, all right, I got In other words,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be missing any snaps, you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: so I think you can get away with it, get
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: around it whatever, even maybe he's listed as a full participant, yeah,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: you know, but I don't know.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that plays
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: games with this, you know, let him think that he's
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: more hurt than he is. I don't think that he
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: has the time, no, but maybe maybe he does.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: Maybe today might not be the day for it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: But the only thing I was potentially thinking was maybe
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: like a pitch count and practice, you know, just to
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: take it easy, a little bit on the arm.
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: They should during the bye week. That was the only thing.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: If he's banged up, absolutely, if he's fine, then no,
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: like that that would And I don't have any idea
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: either way.
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: The only reason why I.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Said, because of what he said on the radio yesterday,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: which is that this is a lot longer football season
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: than he's ever played.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Right, you know, go to the twenty first game.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Right, and he's you know, whether it was college or
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: last year, he was not playing twenty one games of
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: NFL football, you know. So it's just a lot he's
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: been throwing, you know? Is it just in terms of me?
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: They track everything like how much are you run? How
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: many steps you take in practice? I would imagine how
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: many throws you take is also something that they measure
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: and are cognizant of not overdoing it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the phones. We'll start with Alex
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: in San Diego. What's up, Alex?
• 34:32
  Speaker 16: I think, guys, I have to agree with everything with
• 34:34
  Speaker 16: this whole Belichick thing. I think it's absolutely absurd and
• 34:37
  Speaker 16: as one of you said, it's straight ignorance. But anyway,
• 34:40
  Speaker 16: in a lighter note, we're back, do congrats on finally
• 34:43
  Speaker 16: making it.
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: It was a fun Did you have fun?
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: You having fun?
• 34:47
  Speaker 16: What's up?
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: Do you have fun? Are you having fun?
• 34:51
  Speaker 17: Oh?
• 34:51
  Speaker 16: Of course of course. But really the reason I called
• 34:54
  Speaker 16: in I just wanted to keep your guys opinion on
• 34:56
  Speaker 16: really what's going on here with Will Campbell. I really
• 34:59
  Speaker 16: don't like excuses.
• 35:00
  Speaker 15: Maybe he's hurt.
• 35:01
  Speaker 16: Let's just say, for example, he's not, though he wasn't
• 35:05
  Speaker 16: hurt against Miles Garrett and Grant. Miles Garrett had an
• 35:07
  Speaker 16: all time season, but Khalil Mack, Will Andrews and Nick Benito, like,
• 35:11
  Speaker 16: he didn't look good. And I don't know if this
• 35:13
  Speaker 16: is a strengthening that over time maybe he can get
• 35:16
  Speaker 16: stronger and improve on. But I just believed with the
• 35:19
  Speaker 16: intangibles for someone that you picked at number four, like,
• 35:21
  Speaker 16: I have hope for this. But granted, I don't think
• 35:24
  Speaker 16: Seattle has one of those elite guys as well. But
• 35:26
  Speaker 16: you know, I'm still hopeful here. But you know, Drake
• 35:28
  Speaker 16: May just really hasn't looked settled in the pocket all
• 35:31
  Speaker 16: playoffs here, and I think it's really affected some of
• 35:33
  Speaker 16: these throws that he's just made all year long.
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I'll take it off the air, Okay, Yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: it's a fair question.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: I would just push back a little bit on the
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Beanino side of it, Like outside of the cup block,
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: he was fine against Nick Banino in the game on Sunday.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: I didn't have him with any pressures allowed the Banino
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: outside of the cup block. So that's an ugly rep
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: there's no there's no running from that. But was that
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: like a true wasn't a one on one lot like
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: he tried to cut him and he missed, you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: like it's not like a situation where he got you know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: blown by like we have seen a little bit. So
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: I thought he was better in this game. But the
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: long term question of whether or not he's a left
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: tackle I think remains.
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: But you know, he's he's a rookie.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: It's his first year going up against really highly elite
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: skilled rushers like you just mentioned Will Anderson and Khalil
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Maccleil Maxicin. Well, I don't know anymore, but he should
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: be in the Hall of Fame someday. And Will Anderson
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: is currently one of the best players in the league.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: So you're talking about the elite of the elite guys
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: giving him problem.
• 36:31
  Speaker 10: With the body types, they give him problems too, And yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 10: it's hard. I just I wonder what the approaches this
• 36:36
  Speaker 10: offseason with the offensive line because it's just I think
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: almost every spot has questions. Morgan Moses is old, Mike
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: One is going to make a ton of money, Garret
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: Bradberry is also a little bit older.
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: Jared Wilson.
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: People talk about him maybe going to center, Will Campbell
• 36:52
  Speaker 10: talk about him maybe going a left guard. I just
• 36:55
  Speaker 10: think the thing that hangs over it that I don't
• 36:57
  Speaker 10: want to subscribe to is that if by acknowledging he
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: might have to move to guard, that you blew the pick,
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: you know, and and yeah, maybe you wish that you
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: had gotten more out of the fourth overall pick, But
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: you know, if Will Campbell ultimately ends up being a
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: really good guard, I'm not gonna sit here in lament like, well,
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: they drafted a guard fourth overall.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: If it works out, it works out.
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: But I think that's what's hanging over this whole conversation
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: is that people don't want to get into that nitty
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: gritty because they feel.
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: Like it's a bust. He's a bust if he ends
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: up at left guard, right.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: I would also say, if he ends up moving in
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: guard in the future, but they win a Super Bowl
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: with him at left tackle, yeah right, Yeah, I don't know, right,
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: So you know, isn't.
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: That the funny thing though, of like how much time
• 37:34
  Speaker 10: we spend talking about like needing a number one or
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: k needing depth or you know, k needing x Y
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: or z or this is a flaw and then one
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: year it all just kind of lines up. And that's
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: why if I was like a Jets fan or a
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: Bills fan, I'm like, how has this never happened for
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: us in like fifty years? Never once did we just
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: happen to kind of like get a favorable draw, had
• 37:54
  Speaker 10: a good injury luck, and despite perceived roster weaknesses, we
• 37:58
  Speaker 10: were able to make it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Why Why did the Patriots.
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: Get to do this again?
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: It's the number one thing that I push back on
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: after the Super Bowl every year when whoever wins.
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: Right, that's what you need, that's what you have to do.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: You know, last year it was all about you have
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: to like dominate on the line, like both sides of
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: the line. Philadelphia dominated, So that's the only way you
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: can do it. And I just think there's a lot
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: of different ways to do it. And every year it
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: seems like there's a difference in the in the way
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: the teams are structured.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: And you know, now it's all interior defensive line, right,
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: you know, because the Patriots have Barboard Williams and the
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Seahawks have Murphy and and you know there are guys
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: Leonard Williams, so like now everybody's like saying, oh, got
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: to have a line.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: We've had years where, you know, don't you don't need
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: any running back, and then there's been years like last
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: year you have to have the stud running like it
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: just there's no one way to do it. There's a
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: lot of different ways to make good football teams and
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: they're not all built the same way.
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: And let's face it, Mike, you kind of hit on something.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: You didn't use the.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Word, but I'll use it for you, is there's a
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: lot of luck involved too. You know, Buffalo is one
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: of those teams, like you're saying, how did that not
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: ever happen for us? So they had all these really
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: really good teams and then they would have to go
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: and play Mahomes when they were really really good and
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: they fell short. They couldn't have been a really really
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: good team this year when they wouldn't have had to
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: face them. No, they would kind of average at best
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: this year, and they had a road where the Patriots
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: took the division from them and they had to go
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: on the road and they fell short. Yeah, you know
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: without Mahomes that like it's just, yeah, one of those
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: luck of the drawer, right.
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: I know your point. There wasn't a lot of AFC
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: teams getting lucky when Tom Brady was years you know, like.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: It was, you you know, like people would say, like
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: the Colts can't win because they're too soft, they're for nests,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: and then they won, you know, with the same style.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: You know, but the road was a little different that
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: year the Patriots. The Patriots were wounded. They they weren't
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: as good offensively as they had been in the past.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: When they let the receivers go and six they were
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: able to play the game at home instead of on
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: the road in the snowstorm. They were not lucky. They
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: felt things fell into place for them.
• 40:08
  Speaker 10: And I will say this though, having said all that,
• 40:10
  Speaker 10: there's a good chance we're going to get to any
• 40:12
  Speaker 10: of the Super Bowl and we're going to be revisiting
• 40:14
  Speaker 10: all the flaws that we pointed out on this team
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: going into the season.
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: During the season, you know, those things could all come
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: up in the Super Bowl and we come out.
• 40:20
  Speaker 10: And we say the offensive line has got to be better,
• 40:23
  Speaker 10: or they really need a dude on the outside.
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: And that's the case.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: You're saying it now.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm starting to come around on the dude on
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: the outside thing. I think that the passing game and
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: the playoffs you've seen, you know, when Diggs gets doubled
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: on it on the inside on third down, there's just
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: not a lot going on elsewhere.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: I was thinking the defensive team in the outside.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Like I you know that I think is you know,
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: then you're asking Drake made to like basically they were
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: on Sunday they were asking Kaysehwan Boody to win contest
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: catches against Patrick Surtan, which is like, you know, like
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's really how you want to
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: live and that's how you get, you know, the performance
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: that they had passing Lise, it wouldn't surprise me if
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: you know a year from now, two years from now,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: you know, Wilson and Campbell both bump over to the
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: right one spot. But I think when you do that,
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: like who's playing left tackle? And where are you getting
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: that left tackle? From picking thirty second in the draft.
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and you already have people saying you got a draft.
• 41:20
  Speaker 10: I mean I've seen a couple of mock drafts with
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: them taking a right tackle and you know, Sam Morgan Moses.
• 41:24
  Speaker 10: So you know, are you really going to go into
• 41:26
  Speaker 10: this offseason saying nice year from Will, but we're gonna
• 41:29
  Speaker 10: need to get two tackles this year.
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: I think you have to give them a lot.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, it will be two years, not one, if it
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: happens at all. Yeah, he might solidify it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Francisco is a North Carol. Oh I hit the
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: wrong button. Sorry, Francisco, call back my bad. Uh, Sam's
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: in North Carolina.
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: What's up, Sam, Sam?
• 41:51
  Speaker 15: I have pretty quick thing.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 41:54
  Speaker 15: The thing is the absolute ridiculous flight. There could never
• 41:58
  Speaker 15: be another first male head coach. Like if he's not
• 42:01
  Speaker 15: first beel head coach, there can never be another too,
• 42:06
  Speaker 15: Like if if we don't like drafted eckle to developing whatever,
• 42:11
  Speaker 15: Will kempbll is gonna be the left tackle for the
• 42:13
  Speaker 15: foreseeable future. I don't think there's any question. And when
• 42:18
  Speaker 15: did Seattle become this some beautiful force? Like the way
• 42:21
  Speaker 15: they're talking now on TV and things, just like the
• 42:23
  Speaker 15: Patriots have no shot. Like I know Seattle is a
• 42:27
  Speaker 15: good team, but we're a good thing too. I just
• 42:29
  Speaker 15: don't see him dominating the game the way that everybody's seeing.
• 42:33
  Speaker 15: And Okay, all right in the Super Bowl.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Thanks Sam.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we I mean we really haven't dove too deep
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: yet into Seattle in the specific matchups and all that,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: but you know, early looks like, of course the Patriots
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: have a chance, you know, but Seattle's a good team.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: They emerged from the NFC, which a lot of people
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: believe you had the best teams in football this year.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's debatable. I'd like to know
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: what was the AFC record versus NFC this.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Year in games played? We know that if he should
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: be easy to look up, right, I.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Don't know, but I don't think that really is an
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: indication of the strength of the com.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I remember the Charges played. Was it the forty nine
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: ers and beat them pretty handily? Or what was it
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: this year?
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: The forty nine ers beat the Chargers.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Jacksonville belt Oh, jackson Jacksonville beat the forty nine ers.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I don't.
• 43:29
  Speaker 10: Know, Yeah yeah, I mean, don't you feel like you've
• 43:31
  Speaker 10: seen enough Super Bowls to know that, like you think
• 43:33
  Speaker 10: you know what's going to happen when these games.
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: Get a little weird.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 43:36
  Speaker 10: I just I have confidence in the Patriots defense. You know,
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: it's a huge challenge in Seattle's got a lot of talent.
• 43:41
  Speaker 10: I think they are just across the board just an excellent,
• 43:44
  Speaker 10: solid football team.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: So are we.
• 43:46
  Speaker 10: I Just my biggest wish for the game at this
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: point is that we see the Patriots offense that we
• 43:50
  Speaker 10: watched for the majority of the season and that they
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: can get back into that mode of you know, seeing
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: Drake make the plays that made him an MVP candidate
• 43:58
  Speaker 10: in front of a worldwide audience to oh you know,
• 44:00
  Speaker 10: yes it was a struggle through three playoff games, but
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: he got to the super Bowl and shows us why
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: he's here, right.
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's my I mean, that's the game to me.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Like if they if they can't, if they play offense
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: the way they've been playing offense, they're gonna lose.
• 44:13
  Speaker 14: Yep.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: So they have to find a way again discore some
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: points because they're not going to hold Seattle to seven points.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: That's not happening seven. Yeah, But like what if they
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: play defense the way they've been playing defense.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I think if they play he is still gonna need
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: to score.
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: I think they still get to twenty.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say seventeen or twenty for the Seattle
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: gets to seventeen or twenty.
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: You know, I think, but.
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: Would that I think that'd be enough to win.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Could be if the defense plays lights out.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: I could see like if if to me, like the
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: most likely Patriots score victories like twenty three to twenty,
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: you know, a game that has some scoring but is
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: you know, low twenties.
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: That was Super Bowl forty nine.
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a really good team. They're a really good team.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: I think they're so cute.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: They deserve to be favored, and they deserve like I
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: understand why the national media is all picking Seattle in
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: the game.
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: I get it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: It just feels weird to be in this position with
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: the Patriots.
• 45:02
  Speaker 10: Kind of being underdogs and acknowledging it, like I mean,
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: go back to thirty six of the last time that
• 45:07
  Speaker 10: it felt like this.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Francisco's in North Carolina. I hate Francisco.
• 45:12
  Speaker 14: Hey, what's going on, guys?
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: So Francisco?
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: All right?
• 45:16
  Speaker 14: So first I just want to start off. I was saying,
• 45:18
  Speaker 14: you know, I got I got the T shirts and
• 45:20
  Speaker 14: I can't I can't thank y'all enough for you know,
• 45:23
  Speaker 14: just to send me that and then going above beyond
• 45:25
  Speaker 14: and you know, sending me the other one as well.
• 45:27
  Speaker 18: And you know, so first of all, I just.
• 45:28
  Speaker 14: Want to thank y'all for that, because you know, I've
• 45:32
  Speaker 14: got I've got a lot of memories with the Patriots,
• 45:34
  Speaker 14: and uh, it really struck a chord with me. You know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 14: y'all going above and beyond. But so like when I
• 45:41
  Speaker 14: became a Patriots fan, I was five years old and
• 45:43
  Speaker 14: my grandfather passed away and that's the first time I
• 45:45
  Speaker 14: ever went to Massachusetts. But when we got there for
• 45:48
  Speaker 14: a funeral, they gave me one of his Patriots hat
• 45:51
  Speaker 14: and then from that point on, I was locked in.
• 45:53
  Speaker 14: But you know, it's i'll know, seeing the ups and
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: like before, like when Jermaine curs Compact pime, Like I
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: turned off the TV. I went in my bedroom. You know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 14: I'm I'm human, and then my stepfather from another room
• 46:06
  Speaker 14: turns it back on and I hear, oh he has
• 46:08
  Speaker 14: and picked it, and then you know, I run back in.
• 46:10
  Speaker 14: You know, after I was just like quickest mood change.
• 46:13
  Speaker 14: And then like me and my girlfriend, we've been together
• 46:15
  Speaker 14: for three years and so this year I came so
• 46:21
  Speaker 14: you know, the three and fourteen or you know whatever,
• 46:24
  Speaker 14: to where like I was watching games and I'm like,
• 46:26
  Speaker 14: I'm expecting us to play bad, so I'm not getting
• 46:28
  Speaker 14: upset and this year she's like, I didn't know you
• 46:31
  Speaker 14: acted like this when you watch games, and I'm like,
• 46:33
  Speaker 14: I was like, oh no, when we're great, like like
• 46:35
  Speaker 14: I'm screaming at the TV, I'm upset with something bad.
• 46:39
  Speaker 14: And she's like, you know, because the past couple of
• 46:41
  Speaker 14: years have been terrible. So I just want to I
• 46:43
  Speaker 14: just want to start off by all right, memories I've
• 46:46
  Speaker 14: had with.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: All right, but before you go, do we have any
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: predictions from the Great Francisco as to the game?
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 46:54
  Speaker 14: I've got a couple, but I'm holding off on.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: A Okay, all right, next you hold off the radio
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: or save it from radio?
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, fair enough.
• 47:02
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to episode fifty two of Past from
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: the h Paths from the Past, and we have probably
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: one of the most distinguished guests we've ever had. He's
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: here today because he's being inducted into the Patriots Hall
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: of Fame. It's the one and only Bill Parcells and coach.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: It's just a treat to see you again.
• 49:22
  Speaker 20: Thank you very much, and it's good to be back here.
• 49:25
  Speaker 20: Yeah in New England.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Man, obviously very humbled by the honor.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let me move this a little closer. Yes,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: have you been back? When's the last time you were here?
• 49:38
  Speaker 20: Well, I was here with the Dallas Cowboys playing against
• 49:41
  Speaker 20: right Okay, Yeah, yeah, I've.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Been here just a couple of times to play. But no,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I haven't been.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Back because I remember, you know, when the Border war
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: ended and you did that phone call with the New
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: England Media and you said, yeah, you know, I'd love
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: to come up sometime and just see a game.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Still. Wait, I love, We'd love to have you anytime
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: you want, you know.
• 50:03
  Speaker 21: You know.
• 50:04
  Speaker 20: So I'm in Florida in the winter, late season and
• 50:07
  Speaker 20: in the winter, and uh, I'm racing horses in the
• 50:11
  Speaker 20: summer most of the time. Yeah, but I do like
• 50:15
  Speaker 20: it here, and I feel good enough to come back
• 50:17
  Speaker 20: and see what's going.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: That'd be great.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: That were great. I know that.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I know everyone would treat you, you know, like a
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: king if you came back. I can tell you. You know,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I know Julian Edelman's going in today, but I.
• 50:29
  Speaker 22: Think Fred and I both believe that this is Bill
• 50:31
  Speaker 22: Parcell's dad.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was great.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: And Matt Smith is here too. Matt is our executive coach.
• 50:38
  Speaker 22: You don't you would never remember this, which I wouldn't
• 50:41
  Speaker 22: wouldn't blame you. But wait, back when in ninety five
• 50:44
  Speaker 22: when you were doing the TV show I was doing
• 50:47
  Speaker 22: the TV show Lynch, Mike Lynch, Mike.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Clinch, Yeah, you remember that. I got it.
• 50:51
  Speaker 22: Yeah, coach, you'd want two super Bowls. You had some
• 50:57
  Speaker 22: health concerns. I think people scratch your heads. Why did
• 51:01
  Speaker 22: you come back? What was it about coming back that
• 51:03
  Speaker 22: you wanted to come back?
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: And White here, Well, I just loved the profession.
• 51:07
  Speaker 20: And you know, it's if you see yourself as something,
• 51:12
  Speaker 20: which is what I do, and it's all I ever did.
• 51:15
  Speaker 20: And you know, those health concerns completely disappeared, and I said,
• 51:24
  Speaker 20: why not? And so I still enjoy it and that's
• 51:27
  Speaker 20: what I want to do, and so I did it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 20: But you were picky.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: How did James Orthwine convince you to come to the
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Patriots because you probably had options.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I did have two options.
• 51:38
  Speaker 20: I remember, mister Orthwe wasn't the one that really talked
• 51:45
  Speaker 20: me into it. I can't remember the name of the
• 51:47
  Speaker 20: fella that came down. I was in Florida. They flew
• 51:50
  Speaker 20: down and we talked down there. That then general manager
• 51:55
  Speaker 20: was Patrick Forte. Yeah, he came on the plane playing
• 51:58
  Speaker 20: with us. We talked back forth, got a few things
• 52:01
  Speaker 20: straight and I said, I'll let you know tomorrow. And
• 52:05
  Speaker 20: I knew I was going to do it, I think,
• 52:06
  Speaker 20: and so we got back to it.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: So Mickey Corkran was your high school coach, and I
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: know he was an environmentor to you for a long time.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Did you talk to him before you came here?
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 52:20
  Speaker 20: But he you know, he's a coach at art. He
• 52:23
  Speaker 20: wants to see his boy coaching, right so because that
• 52:26
  Speaker 20: gives him something to do on Sunday. So he was
• 52:31
  Speaker 20: all for it. You know, I always liked this area.
• 52:35
  Speaker 20: I live very close to here now and it's been
• 52:39
  Speaker 20: it's been fun. I've always liked to hear and it's
• 52:42
  Speaker 20: a special place for me.
• 52:43
  Speaker 22: So when the when the when the draft was coming around,
• 52:46
  Speaker 22: to coach Parcels, you know, I think the alleged prognosticators
• 52:51
  Speaker 22: it's bled Somyer bleds Omayra. Was that a tough decision
• 52:54
  Speaker 22: for you at the time?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Not for me. I had a little.
• 52:59
  Speaker 20: Contenson with the personnel director at the time named Charlie Army.
• 53:05
  Speaker 20: He was he felt like Meyer was a safer pick.
• 53:09
  Speaker 20: But I watched every pass that Drew Blessoe through on
• 53:14
  Speaker 20: film for two years. I watched every pass he threw,
• 53:18
  Speaker 20: and when I was done with that reel, I was
• 53:21
  Speaker 20: convinced that's who I wanted.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what was it about that reel that.
• 53:25
  Speaker 20: Well, he's a big, strong guy, six' five or six
• 53:28
  Speaker 20: whatever it, is and he had a good arm they
• 53:31
  Speaker 20: were playing in a passing offense At Washington, state and
• 53:35
  Speaker 20: he had a lot of experience in the passing.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Game and.
• 53:39
  Speaker 20: You, know you never know when you. Pick you don't
• 53:42
  Speaker 20: know to ever know exactly what you're. Getting, yeah BUT
• 53:45
  Speaker 20: i thought there was a good chance to be. Successful
• 53:48
  Speaker 20: he did a good.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Job he sure.
• 53:49
  Speaker 22: Did the end of the ninety three, Season coach parcels
• 53:53
  Speaker 22: when you ran off those wins at the, END i
• 53:55
  Speaker 22: think a lot of people here remember The miami game
• 53:58
  Speaker 22: here at the end Of. December he Hits timpson down
• 53:59
  Speaker 22: the seine with that long past at that point in.
• 54:03
  Speaker 22: TIME i know it doesn't necessarily carry, over but did
• 54:05
  Speaker 22: you where you think of?
• 54:06
  Speaker 8: Yourself you know what we might be onto something?
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Here you?
• 54:09
  Speaker 20: KNOW I i was fairly confident in, team even though
• 54:16
  Speaker 20: the record wasn't showing that. YET i KNEW i had
• 54:21
  Speaker 20: enough good, players and.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: We were getting them every year more and.
• 54:27
  Speaker 20: More SO i felt like if we could just keep
• 54:31
  Speaker 20: a good attitude and develop a good toughness and general
• 54:35
  Speaker 20: overall expecting to.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Win kind of, thing that we might have a. Shot
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: and fair.
• 54:42
  Speaker 22: Enough one of my crosses to beer coach is working
• 54:46
  Speaker 22: With Scott zolac. TODAY i Love, Zoe But zoe tells,
• 54:50
  Speaker 22: me SO i want to know what's accurate or what's not.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Accurate, okay the.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: First of, all he's a slight.
• 54:58
  Speaker 22: Exaggerator this is where to find out if he's really
• 55:01
  Speaker 22: exaggerating or. Not so the way he tells the story
• 55:04
  Speaker 22: is The minnesota game in ninety. Four you guys are
• 55:07
  Speaker 22: down a, bunch and he said that he went up
• 55:09
  Speaker 22: to you at halftime in the locker room and, said you.
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: Gotta let the kid call his own.
• 55:13
  Speaker 22: PLAYS i think he tells it you looked at him and,
• 55:15
  Speaker 22: said you know, what you want to coach the team,
• 55:18
  Speaker 22: now and you turn on the hill and walked.
• 55:20
  Speaker 8: Away he then says that after you, meeting you And.
• 55:23
  Speaker 22: Ray are talking about you know what's going on the second,
• 55:25
  Speaker 22: half that you, said all, right, everybody here's the, Deal,
• 55:27
  Speaker 22: drew you're calling your own, plays and that you looked
• 55:30
  Speaker 22: At zoe and.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Said good.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Idea now That's zoe's. Interns that's pretty. Close here's what.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Happened but.
• 55:38
  Speaker 20: First of, ALL i had a little Visual prior to,
• 55:43
  Speaker 20: halftime we had been in a two minute offense for
• 55:47
  Speaker 20: six or seven, minutes SO i had seen That minnesota
• 55:51
  Speaker 20: was just playing one standard defense against, it AND i
• 55:56
  Speaker 20: didn't know.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Whether they had anything.
• 55:57
  Speaker 20: Else so that's really WHY i agreed to do, it
• 56:02
  Speaker 20: BECAUSE i knew we could hurt that one standard defense
• 56:05
  Speaker 20: because we'd already heard it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Before they have right and now great moments in.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: HISTORY i don't think That Matthew stafford's a sure thing right.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Now and you, KNOW i Like Matthew stafford And fred's
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: gonna make fun of, me BUT i love. HIM i
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: think if you get him, in you can find out
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: exactly what you have.
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: With With Baker.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: MAYFIE i guess in the last five weeks this is
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: a GUY i think could really thrive in my.
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: Offense, oh this is a guy that he's not a.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: FIT i guess if you're saying That stafford's not a sure,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: thing then, okay, yeah.
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: BUT i, mean how can you Say stafford's a sure.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: THING i didn't know the injury was that like he
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: was out for possibly out for twenty twenty.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Three oh, no, no, no he's not going to be out
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: for twenty twenty. Three he may Decide i'm not playing. Anymore, Okay,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: well either, way like that a sure, Thing Like i'm
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: just Like i'm not saying that there's any reports that
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: say That Matthew stafford might not play next. Year i'm
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: saying the guys in his late thirties and has a spinal.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: CONTUSION i think he might, say you know, WHAT i got,
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: Lucky i'm getting.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Out so he's not a sure.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Thing so in, mcveiy's In Nick bay's, mind he's not.
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: Sure just making a. Report i'm NOT.
• 57:16
  Speaker 8: Mca that's another great moment from.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: All.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Right welcome back To Patriots unfiltered at eighty five to.
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• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Super bowl because we are a good. TEAM i wanted
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: The seattle matchup BECAUSE i thought it was better for
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: us than The.
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: Rams, Yeah i'm not so sure about that. ONE i
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: keep everyone keeps saying, that AND i, get like the stand.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: That's all because Of.
• 58:18
  Speaker 8: DONALD i get, that but like The donald needs to
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: be a pump.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: Dad rams secondary was leaking towards the you, know the
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: back half of the, season and it leaked On sunday
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: against The.
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: Seahawks like did they run leak on?
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: THEM i would really, know but The rams did run
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: leak On, seattle and that definitely made the cut.
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: Up that definitely made they had to check it.
• 58:41
  Speaker 10: DOWN i Think i've learned a lot about myself over
• 58:43
  Speaker 10: the course of, This, like you, know its people pointing
• 58:45
  Speaker 10: out my style of watching games and HOW i.
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: Know and everybody's one hundred percent.
• 58:49
  Speaker 10: RIGHT i talk myself into anxiety and into LIKE i don't.
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: Know about this and all my fall. APART i don't.
• 58:56
  Speaker 8: Know that's HOW i enjoyed the, games that fatalist.
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: APPROACH i just.
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: Wonder HOW i, like you're gonna do with this one
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: because like it's not hard to talk yourself Into, seattle so,
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: like you, know this isn't like when you would talk
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: yourself into like The saints and.
• 59:12
  Speaker 20: Some.
• 59:12
  Speaker 10: Plays it's also THAT i, say, Like i'm generally a pretty,
• 59:16
  Speaker 10: upbeat positive, person AND i think if you get too
• 59:19
  Speaker 10: much of, that it gets super, Annoying like nobody wants
• 59:21
  Speaker 10: to hear, me just like you, know in a. PARADE i,
• 59:24
  Speaker 10: think you, KNOW i try to maintain a level playing, Field.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Mike In South Dakota's, paul you were right once, again.
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: Oh, no last year and could come out of.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: That last, year when there was a debate about how
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: The patriots get back to The Super, bowl a lot
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: of people talked about how we need to build the
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: offensive line and protect the quarterback at all. Costs, paul
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: you always said that as long as the quarterback was,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: right that the old line didn't, matter Citing Joe burrow
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: and The Bengal Super bowl run with.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: The WORST o line in the.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: League now that we're back in The Super, BOWL i
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: think it's fair to say it's not because of how
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: good OUR o line. Was in, fact some might say
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: we are winning in spite of OUR o. Line it's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: not to say they've been terrible all, season but just
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: proves that teams can win in a lot of different. Ways, So,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: paul have fun with this victory. Lap you will write.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Again so let me get this. Straight The patriots are
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: here because they didn't fix the. Trenches, oh they're here
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: because Of drake.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: May in short of the, playoffs because of the DEFENSE mvp.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 9: Candidate did the defensive.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: Line but to sit here and say that the offensive
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: line didn't, Improve, NO.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: I don't think he said.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: That and they also have four new starters on the offensive,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: line so it's NOT.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: I don't think he said the offensive line didn't. Improve,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: yeah BUT i THINK i don't think it's.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 9: GREAT i think.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: That it's marketably better than anything that they've had, recently
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: to the point where like that to say that like
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: that would be a feather in no offense in your
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: cap that it was like that's they won a different, Way,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: LIKE i don't know about.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: THAT i don't think they won because of the offensive.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: Line they certainly did, not but they won the offensive
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: line was functional for the majority of the season for
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: them where they, are.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: Which which has basically been my argument as that email just, said,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: like you don't need to have The eagles offensive line to,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: Win like you can just be functional like a lot
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: of other teams that, win Like Kansas.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 10: City but that's the weird. Thing and like to your, Point,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 10: paul is that is exactly what Happened Drake. MAY i, mean,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 10: yes offensive line is, good pieces were solid around, him
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 10: but he played at AN mvp level and that's why
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 10: The patriots won a lot of. Games but you've gotten
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 10: in the playoffs and that hasn't been the. Case now
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 10: it's something. Different it's the. Defense it's it's.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Strange, well you know it's playoff, time so it's defense.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Time.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: Right defense wins.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Championships, Right i've heard, Right and it travels iron AND
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: i would.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: Just like just the way the emailer was phrasing the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: email was like they didn't rebuild the entire offensive line
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: in one.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 9: Offseason. Thing, no they. Did they.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: DID i, Mean i'm not going to get into a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: semantic argument as to how much better it, is but they.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Did they Have i'll tell you about the offensive, line the,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: coaching AND i think that's part of.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: It that's the key.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Thing when you see, breakdowns it's not because of communication
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: and guys standing there like.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: Not revisit this in the, office not knowing who.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: To, block which we saw a lot last. Year the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: coaching has been much better this, year a big.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: Time for my argument THAT i gabbled earlier. AGO i
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: can have a good one With evan And fred for,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: THIS i.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 9: Just have to stand up from you, Know i'm an offensive.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: LINE i got a stand up for my, guys like you,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: know they they've done a great job and you know
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: the playoffs hasn't been as good by any. Means BUT
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: i think a large reason why they are here is
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: because the offensive line hasn't.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Proved that's one of my favorite players right, there.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: And because they didn't Have drake may Or Tom brady
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: playing behind, him they never did.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 9: ANYTHING i think both things can be, true.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: BUT i Love that's my. Point BUT i love My
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: hogs and you Know i'm A Will campbell.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Guy excuse?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: Me is that what you call us?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Now SO i would just, say like in a, nutshell
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: LIKE i think what the email is trying to give
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: me props, for and maybe he overstated it is just
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: THAT i think they did improve the offensive. Line They it's,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: inarguable AS i, said you have four new. STARTERS i
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: think all of that would be. True and if you
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: didn't Have Drake, may it wouldn't. Matter they wouldn't have
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: gone fourteen and. Three they wouldn't have been in the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: situation that they were. IN i think that a lot
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: of people sort of insist that you need to build
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: that line and have, this you, know impenetrable. Force it
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter if the quarterback Like Drake may is the
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: reason why they won a lot of the games they
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: won in the regular.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: Season now the defense is the reason why they're winning
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: in the.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: Playoffs so if you want to say that's like defense
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: championships all that, STUFF i mean they won three games
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs because the defense was dominant all three.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: Games, Yeah and my only point, WAS i think we're
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: on the same. Page it's just THAT i think you
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: need to be functional.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 9: Upfront.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: YEAH i think if you're a disaster on the offensive, line.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: That's hard to.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 9: Overcome they just sent two teams.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: Home that are a disaster on the offensive line with
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: The chargers and The, texans, Right so that's it's hard to,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: overcome even for the great quarterbacks unless you have like
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: A Burrow mahomes level great it's hard to.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Overcome, ye go To joe In. Chicago what's?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Up?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Joe, Yo, Joe, Joe joe At, joe you're In, Chicago.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Joe, Okay joe is. Gone let's go To danny And. Daytona, Hey, Danny, hey.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 9: Guys can you hear?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Me?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Paul?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: Fred, yeah what's going?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: On?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: Danny?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 23: Hey what's going?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 20: On?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 15: Uh, PAUL i got a time IN.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 23: A couple of things to you And uh and you
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 23: Two fred And, EVAN a couple of these, Takes BUT
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 23: i want to start off with.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 11: Uh Brace.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 23: BERENGER i called in about this all season. Long you remember, This.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 23: Paul that guy's got to go after the. Offseason he is.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 23: Horrendous he's been horrendous Since bill draft. Him he's so
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 23: inconsistent and we all saw on prime time how horrendous
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 23: he cannot stand on the. Roster so that's number, one
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 23: you gotta.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 16: Go number.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 23: TWO i don't know if you guys saw the the
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 23: interview With rabel And Bill. Kauer if you, haven't go
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 23: watched That they showed him before the. Game rabel showing
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 23: him has often to see as a. Coach it was
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 23: a really good uh, Talk abel talks about how he
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 23: didn't start for four years and The steelers and then
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 23: coming here and playing for eight years and then going
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 23: To Kansas.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 16: City it was a really good.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 15: Interview the other.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 23: Thing Bill belichick getting. Stubbed Even Patrick mahomes chimed in
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 23: On twitter and, whatnot and he, said that's.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: Ridiculous.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 23: Uh and even the long time the long Time hed
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 23: coach And Fox sports analysts that was With, johnson that
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 23: was with The. Cowboys he chimes in games That Jimmy.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Johnson, YEAH i mean that's the thing players that went
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: up against him you heard.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: From that's The marcos and that. That you, know come, on. Everybody.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 23: Yeah and then the last THING i have for you.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 23: GUYS i don't know if you guys saw this ON.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 23: Espn they put In greeney put his top five. Recognitions,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 23: paul you And fred would probably remember. This do you
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 23: guys remember the it? Was it was The Jimmy. Blunkett
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 23: he was drafted by The, patriots was terrible with The,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 23: patriots went to the Forty, niners was terrible with the Forty,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 23: niners goes to The raiders and win Two Super bowls with.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 23: Them and then they were making that comparison with Damn,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 23: donald how he flamed out in all those. Locations and
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 23: then the same thing with oh what's his?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Name that was with The, yeah do you see any
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Similarities donald And plunkett's, CAREER.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: I mean not, really BUT i will say that he
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: was not good and then he went To oakland and won.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: GAMES i would Say donald has been much better the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: last two years Than Jim plunkett ever played for The,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: raiders LIKE i Think donald, PLAYED.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: I mean a different.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: Era, yeah But i'm just talking about He donald has
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: had more to do with the team winning the last
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: two years Than plunkett did In.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: Oakland they had a lot of, Talent, yeah and they.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 23: Just, yeah and they basically gave that a scenario that
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 23: there's two ways to do. It you don't always need you.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 23: Know they gave good. Examples The patriots put together a
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 23: good roster and they're winning young with you, know, manity
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 23: the sullarcraft With Drake may and then they, said look
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 23: How siatle's doing. It so there's, like there's not two.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 23: Ways everyone thinks that's, oh.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: Just there's a lot of.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: Similarities The patriots spent a ton of money in the off.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: Season that WAS i read they.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 9: Got their cornerbacks who wrote.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: THAT i THINK i might have been another. One you boy,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: There solac just sort of.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: Talking about, how you, know like the whole thankstanding free
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: agent thing that everybody poo poos, Like, no like they
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: showed you spend, money you be, aggressive and you can
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: you can win doing.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: That they over they overhuled the. Roster it's changing a
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: fifty turnover.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: Rate that's changing a, LOT i would, say in terms
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: of free, agency especially just like improving like the floor
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: of the, roster the talent, floor because you, know you,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: know some of these guys that they sign aren't superstar,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: players but there's they're at least you, know above league
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: average starters or out you, know so much better than
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: the guys they're, replacing. Too and just getting that back
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: to even back to average can really help a team a.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: Lot AND i think that's where free agency comes. In
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: but you, KNOW i think that With, darnold you, KNOW i,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: remember you, KNOW i was living out IN la at
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: the time when he was AT usc SO i saw
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: him four or five. GAMES i saw him Against Penn
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: state in That bowl. GAME i think it's like The Rose.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: BOWL i was at that, game AND i would have
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: sworn to the moon that he was going to be
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: a franchise quarterback based off of how he looked AT
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: usc and he goes To jets and they kind of ruined.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 9: Him LIKE i called for what it was.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 10: LIKE i give him a lot of credit to finally
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 10: break through In minnesota and then to have the courage
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 10: to leave there AND i, know you, know similar offenses and,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 10: stuff but you, know we been to a few different.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 10: Stops you feel like you get To, minnesota it feels
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: like it. WORKS i don't did they offer to bring
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 10: him back or was that just we KNOW jj.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: McCarty, yeah they, did.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: They, did but he knew that McCarthy was waiting in
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: the wings and didn't want.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 10: To so IT'S i, mean it's another leap of faith
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 10: for him a little bit to go To seattle and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 10: it's worked, out AND i know we're saving his, career Right.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: Vin you, See Oh Kyle, Shanahan, yeah.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: He already spent as the backup In San. Francisco, yeah
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: credits that with with sort of resurrecting his.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: Career it's really interesting AND i, think you, know The
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: patriots are kind of a little bit of a of
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: a foil to, this but you, Know Sam darnold's been
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: in A West coast offense since the forty nine, ers
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: so he goes From Kyle shanahan to koc To Clint,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: kubiak so he's been in the same. System on the
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: other side of the, ball With seattle's, defense Like mike,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: McDonald Jesse, minter like those guys are now like the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: bells of the ball in terms of how to scheme,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: defense and so everybody's trying to replicate the schemes That
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: seattle is running on both sides of the, ball The
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: West coast offense scheme and then the way that they play.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: Defense The patriots are kind of the, Opposite like The
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: patriots are running still THE ep system With josh.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 9: McDaniels i don't even know what to call what they
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 9: do on.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: Defense it's like kind of a combination Of Bill belichick's
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: you know defense with what he, learned you, know what
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: vrabel has learned in other. Stops it's kind of like
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: a you, know melting pot of like different. Concepts so it's,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: interesting Like seattle is like the way that everybody wants
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: to like play, now like the way they structure.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 9: Everything It's Cody.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 10: ALEXANDER i Just i'll be interested one of these real
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 10: in the, weeds nerdy defensive film types if they had
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 10: a write up of what are the roots of this?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: Defense.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: YEAH i was just talking To cody yesterday AND i asked, him,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: like you, know point me in the direction of some
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: of the things you've written or said About mike, McDonald teach.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: Me and so he, did AND i can share those.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: Links but his coach a is His twitter. Handle he's
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: really really well first and defensive football and terminology and
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: all that kind of. Stuff AND i think one of
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: the things THAT i was reading in his that really
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: stood out was they don't blitz a, lot but when they,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: do it's really. Good, Yeah seattle doesn't have a high blitz,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: rate but when they do, blitz they are extremely effective at.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 10: IT i saw one up AND i saw like they
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 10: plits both. Corners, yeah it blits both corners At, yeah it's.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 9: Called like chucky or something like. That they call it crazy. Clown,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 9: yeah you, Know.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: Rick And louisville question For evan or anyone can ask it.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Answer i've heard.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: More than one guru comment That Sam darnold's numbers drop
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: a ton when being pressured more than, most like towards
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: the bottom of the.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: League is this?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: True Uh, NO i, mean like they drop like every quarterback,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: does and Like I'M i definitely think that that's that's
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: what you gotta could do against any quarterback is you
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: can't let ANY nfl quarterbacks sit in clean pockets all.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: Day but you, know he's more like middle of THE
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: i would say in terms of like you, know whether
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: you want to go passer RATING epa against, pressure which
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: you know is where you this time of, year you're
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: playing in the Super. Bowl it's not going to be Cam,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: ward who's thirty second in the league in passer rating under.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: Pressure it's going to, be, oh, well he's only sixteenth
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: in passer rating under, pressure but when he's, clean he's.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: Second you, Know so those are the splits that you look.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: At you, know he does turn the ball over that
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: that hasn't been as much of a problem in the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: postseason as.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: The regular clean in the.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: Postseason but, yeah, yeah and you, know but they've played
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: maybe not this last game as, much but you, know
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: the divisional round game was on their. Term so like
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: he's you, know when you play a blowout like, that
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: you're not necessarily going to turn it.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: Down i'll say THAT i thought The rams GOT i
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: don't know what the numbers. WERE i didn't look in
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: the pressure, rate BUT i thought there were a number
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: of plays that he made in The rams game that
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: he was under. Pressure he was able, to you, know
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: get off script and make. Plays now he is you,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: Know evan just talked about him coming out OF. Usc
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: he could do it all AT. Us see he's he
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: was a big athletic quarterback in. College now you mentioned
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: That Penn state. GAME i think that was the end
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: of his junior. Whatever the second to last, year he
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: had another whole year that he played.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 9: Again that was one of the most fun that he
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 9: didn't play as.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: Well yeah that last.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: Year, yeah they lost SOME i Think juju went to THE.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: Nfl they lost some guys to THE nfl on. Offense
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: but Adri jackson was, like you, know a gadget player
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: cornerback for. Them and that Was Sam darneld Versus Saquon
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: Barkley's Penn.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 9: State that was a great game at The Rose. Bowl
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 9: one of the best football Games i've ever been. To
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 9: it was.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: Awesome wasn't that like a really high scoring?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: GAME yea And darnald just lit Up Penn state's defense
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: just right down the, Field.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: Steven And ireland right.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Sin the reason everyone hates The patriots Hates we're back
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: in The Super, bowl back being the evil empire in
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: all of that rubbish is because Of. Bill it's so
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: clear everything we achieved goes back to what he, built
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: including Drafting brady and sticking with. HIM i love all
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: our players and, coaches AND i don't like to say
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: who gets what credit because this is the ultimate team.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Sport but the root cause analysis of our success Is
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Robert kraft Giving bill the keys to build something. Special
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: the players won all our, games And brady is the
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: biggest reason for. That but good players cannot overcome bad.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Coaching and for twenty, years our good players were developed
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: into better, players and we're able to go out and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: become Multiple Super bowl champions because they had the best
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: coaching you will ever. See, finally what bugs me the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: most is we are now going into our First Super
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: bowl in a while where the focus isn't on well
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: are the coaching quarterback?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: Speaking it should be a week to enjoy and be.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Optimistic it's now ruined AND i feel for all the,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: fans current, players and.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: STAFF i don't think that's. TRUE i don't think it's
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: ruined ruined.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: YA i, HOPE i Hope Robert kraft addresses this matter
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: also as it is an indictment of his team and
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: his success a win next. WEEK i hope he comes
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: out saying f you to the voters and pushes to
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Induct bill to Our hall Of fame so we can
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: get the, love, respect and deserving praise from the fans worship.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: Him Bill belichick is a patriot for. Life, YEAH i,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: THINK i, THINK i don't think.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: Anything to get this is today's story by the time
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: we get To Santa clara next.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 9: WEEK i totally. Agree BUT i was thinking about this
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 9: last night with Mister. Kraft.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: Uh you, know if he doesn't get into, uh he's
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: now made The Super bowl with three different head coaches
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: and three different, quarterbacks you, know parcels and Bloodsoe Brady
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: belichick and Now Verbele May and LIKE i Don't i'm
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: not a football, historian BUT i can't imagine that that's
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: happened very, often that he's basically rebuilt it three separate,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: times you, know with three different architects that you know
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: in terms of head.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 10: COACH i, mean and now they've gone to a Super
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 10: bowl in every decade since the, eighties which is kind
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 10: of crazy to think.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 8: About it that way. TOO i, was you, know hearing.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 10: THAT i was thinking a little bit back to That
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 10: bill's press conference last week that was a kind of
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 10: a train. Wreck and you realize how hard it is
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 10: for these kind of guys to work together for so,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 10: long you, know and and just how difficult it is
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 10: to manage those. Relationships and you, know you could see
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 10: the tension Between bill And robert like in THE o nine,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 10: documentary and you, KNOW i look.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 8: At robert being able to kind of put up With.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 10: Bill you saw the owner with you, know the guy
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 10: that the owner of The bills is, like you, know
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 10: someone's got to take the fall. Here this isn't going,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 10: right you. Know and how easy would it have, been you,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 10: KNOW i, Mean robert didn't come to that point because
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 10: he was always able to have a successful season pretty, much, Right,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 10: like was there ever a point where there was any
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 10: doubt that you would want to Bring Bill belichick?
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: BACK i don't think.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 10: So but it is hard to keep those kind of
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: relationships in a high profile industry like.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 8: This for twenty. Years twenty, YEARS i didn't think of each.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 8: Other everybody.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: DOES i just feel like you kind of hear a
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: lot about How bill And brady are obviously tied together
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: and what Did bill do? Without brady is often hoiled against. Him,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: well Mister kraft's done him with three different people, now,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: Right like you know you can't like, that ISN'T i
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: know he's only won his Six Super bowls With Bill
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: Belichick Tom, brady but if they win in ten, days
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: and that's not even true. Anymore so at some point it's,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: like how many more times does he have to do?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: It like this is eleventh Super bowl that he's gotten
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: his franchise.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: To.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Uh back to the, phone s eight five to, five
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: pass five. Hundred melvin's In. Utah what's, Up?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 8: Melvin you're on your way To? California?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 21: Melvin, No i'm out, here can you guys hear?
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 10: Me?
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah that's not our. Melon, no it's a new.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Melon other people can be named.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: MELON I i.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 21: Want to just SAY i one quick thing and THEN
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 21: i want to give you guys my predictions.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Quick the first.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 21: Thing is That, paul you're the reason that we That
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 21: Bill botchik's not going To hall Of. Fame when they
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 21: did the finalist, announcement you were complaining and trying to
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 21: play doubles out of the kid and saying all this.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 21: Crap and now he's not going To hall Of. Fame
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 21: SO i hope you're. Happy the, reason, WELL.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with. YOU i couldn't care less
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: about The hall Of. Fame So i'm not happy And
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: i'm not.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 21: Upset and then My Super bowl prediction way too, early
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 21: thirty one to.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 15: Seventeen just want to let you.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Guys know that Wins, okay thirty one, SEVENTEEN i love.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: It i'm you know WHAT i know in The Andy
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: hart school of, entertainment he's looking for a close game and.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: EVERYTHING i would be just as entertained with an Easy patriots. Win,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: PLEASE i would love. That CAN i just relax and
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: enjoy the.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 10: Game and not have to even the Greatest patriots teams
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 10: in history that you've, watched the Worst patriots seem in
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 10: The Super bowl are the? Best even that they are
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 10: always it's always.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 16: You.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 9: Didn't, YEAH i could be.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: Wrong but very wrong about, this BUT i don't if
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: it's going to be a blow AND i don't see
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: it going to blow out towards the pageot.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: If it's going to be a, BLOWOUT i don't THINK
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 9: i would thinking.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: The same thing the other, day and THEN i was, thinking,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: well you, know another really good team in the, league The.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Bills we were up twenty, one twenty four to, three
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: and that could have been a blowout if we had
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: just did what we needed to do in the second.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Half AND i think that they're, well they're probably not
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: as good as The, seahawks but in terms, OFFENSIVELY i
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: think they have just as much.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 9: POWER i think they're better Than seattle.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Offensively, Right so like if we did it against, them
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: maybe we could do that against The, seahawks and at
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: this time we take care of business in the second.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: Half it does help, that you, KNOW i think That
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: seattle team playing at home is a totally different animal The. Twelves,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: yeah that stadium is you want to talk about home field,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: advantages that that is a legit home field, advantage and you,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: know it's closer To seattle certainly than it is To.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: Boston they're going to have an. ADVANTAGE i think.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: They're gonna have an, advantage but it's not going to
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: be like playing it in front of the.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 9: Twelves and, yeah.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: CAN i just ask, you, guys if you had to,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: Say bills against The seahawks on a neutral, field who
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: do you think Wins.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: Seahawks it's a good. GAME i think it's a.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: BLOWOUT i Think seattle would kill. HIM i Think seattle
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 6: would kill. HIM i think they would do enough defensively
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: to slow Down James.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 8: Cook and, yeah.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: You pick your wide receiver you want to try to
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: try to throw the ball.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 8: To and that's that's one of the silver.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: Lines you don't run on.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 8: Him, YEAH i mean it's not just Hoping donald turns
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 8: into a.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 10: Pumpkin it's just That donald isn't one of those guys
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 10: that you feel like you got to be eight. Seconds
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 10: he's a fish and he's still GONNA i, mean you,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 10: know it's maybe he maybe he plays that.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: That to be would be the only pan victory for
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: The bills is If donald had one of those games
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: and he did. IT i mean he had the First rams.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: Game he threw four, picks so he can do. It
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: he's STILL i, mean it's that's still in him a little.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: Bit but but even just THE i don't want to
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: have to rely on that of you, know.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 10: Getting down to the end of the game and feeling
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 10: like you have a, lead and not to SAY i
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 10: would be, relaxed because you all know.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 8: Me Now i'm gonna be littered from anxiety during the.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 8: Game but you, know it's just not have that feeling
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 8: With Josh allen where it's like until the clock hits.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: Zero it would all depends on what the score.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: Was if it was like a game Like, SUNDAY i
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: wouldn't think That Sam donalds all of a, Sudden you're
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: gonna put a drive together now and win fourteen to.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: Ten but you, know if it's a game like, That
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: bill's game was thirty five thirty.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: One, Yeah i'll take the offense and then the other.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 8: Side how do they deal with WITH? Jsn you, know
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: and and Is gonzo get on? Him and you, Know
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 8: gonzo is just so.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 10: Athletic And i've been so impressed WITH jsn this year
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 10: of how athletic he.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 8: Is like that's a really fun matchup to.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 10: Watch and you, know we said it all season, Long we're,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 10: like wait till we get to the, playoffs then you're
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 10: gonna be glad you Got Christian. Gonzalez i'm not saying
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 10: that he's going to follow.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: The, playoffs but he's been.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 8: Good and when you go.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: To one of their, availabilities remember.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: HIM i Remember. Galule It's jeff, Right Jeff Jef.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: HARDING i worry about how much they MOVE jsn. Around,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: YEAH i.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: Don't and you don't think they'll travel.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: THEM i.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 9: Don't it's it's.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: Hard it's, hard and, like you know what they'll do
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: a lot is you, know like in the game on
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: in THE Nfc champions of, game they had him run
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: around out of the, backfield and it's, like, okay so
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: what do you. Do you're gonna Put gonzo in the
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: box and have him cover him out of the, backfield
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: out of the, box you, know and then you kind
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: of get into the whole thing that we have talked
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: about With Zach korr a couple of times of, well
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: if you're shadowing or you're, traveling now you're tipping. Coverage
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: so now they know it's man to man because you're
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: not going to Put gonzales in the thought or in
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: the box and then fall into his Own it just
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: doesn't make a lot of. Sense so like it then
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: you kind of lose your element of disguise a little.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: Bit and so they do a really nice job With
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: jaysn of kind of undressing coverage by moving him around
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: and putting him in different, spots and so now you
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: kind of have to dictate, coverage and then he gets
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: matched up on a linebacker and it's.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 10: Hard to do the Old bill thing of double the,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 10: one put your number one corner on the.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 8: TWO i, mean some of.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: THAT i think it's A i think it's hard the
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: way they play offense to truly double a player out
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: of the game because of the they, were the way
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: that they line him, up the way that they use condensed.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: Formations you, know it's just not it's not an offense
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: that's conducive to like you know The colts where it
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: was Like Marvin harrison's going to be over, here, right
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: and you know every play he's going to be over
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: here like this. Time and you, know so now if
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: you have a bracket ON, jsn, well now if he
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: motions or he, shifts now you have to communicate, like,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: okay are we like how are we doing it?
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 9: Right, like, well who's on him? Now you, know and
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 9: and it starts to get.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: Complicated SO i think that's the biggest problem with him
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: is that he's not a traditional OUTSIDE x. Receiver he
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: is a true chess, piece like he could literally Run
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: hero out from.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: Anywhere SO i know it's a whole different coaching staff,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: obviously but when you're the way you're talking about how
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: well they do in moving him, Around i'm thinking of
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: The rams game In Gillette stadium last.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 9: Year, similarly it's exactly the.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: Same when you, know you're, like all they got is
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: Like nicoua and like why can't they cover? Him and
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: Like Cooper cup was kind of, uh you, know kind of. Washed,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: yeah like how are they getting these guys wide? Open Where's?
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: Gonzo why Is gonzo not?
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: On you?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: Know and that's What i'm kind of thinking. Of they
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: just do a good job of scheming it up to
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: make sure that you can't do.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: That it's exactly the same. THING i think that him
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: And nikula played close to identical roles and it's a similar,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: offense and you know the way that they move those guys,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: around and you know.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 9: They Don't these aren't.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: You, know teams that really play a lot of stagnant
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: formations where you just are going to sit in the
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: same formation and know exactly what you're gonna get. It
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: that's the hardest part about their. OFFENSE i don't think
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: their offense is overwhelmingly. TALENTED i don't. KNOW i think
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: It's nikula OR, Jsn Kenneth.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 9: Walker that's how good is A J?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: Barner really good?
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: BLOCKER i Mean i'm not like worried about him like
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: having a big passing, game but he's a good. Blocker Elijah,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: royo their, rookie is more of like a pass catching tight,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: end but he doesn't play very.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 9: Much it's really sober So.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Barner i'm just curious going down there wide receiver or
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: past catching. Roster jsen has probably the most, Volume but
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: what what does it look?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: Like do we Know Cooper?
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: CUP i think, YEAH i thought in terms of, volume Like,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: BARNER i thought was the next Leading you might have
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: that in front of, You, PAUL i.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: DO i can look it up for.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: You you don't have to print for me.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: ANYMORE i found that.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: Out, Yeah barner is the second leading receiver in terms
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: of volume fifty two Catches cup with forty, seven and
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: then there's a huge.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: Job yeah you know that's not.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: A, lie, Right that's What i'm trying to, say is
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: like it's not a Very, uh it's a diverse scheme
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: and like they kind of hit you in a bunch
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: of different, ways but it's not a very deep roster
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: in terms of skill player.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: Talent The patriots are pretty pretty much the.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Same, well we all say think that The patriots need
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: to upgrade their wide.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: Receiver, Right, yeah and The seahawks absolutely don's. Right it's
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: one great play and then kind of a lot of.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: Afterthoughts, YEAH i Mean cup is, like you, KNOW i
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: have no issues like Whatever cup does Against Carlton, davis
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  Speaker 5: he does, like you, know Like i'm okay with living
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  Speaker 5: with with those. YARDS i got to stop the. Run,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: yeah and you got to take them out to play.
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  Speaker 10: Action but would you say it's fair then to say
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 10: you can't really just Take jason out of the game
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  Speaker 10: make them beat.
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  Speaker 8: Us with somebody.
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  Speaker 10: Else it seems really hard to execute that with the
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 10: way that they move him.
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  Speaker 5: Around and, YEAH i think, so AND i think we'll
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: hear a lot about that and over the next ten
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: days as. Well if you just Take, jason, okay, well
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: if anybody could just Take, jason.
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  Speaker 6: My guesses every, TEAM i mean they went fourteen and.
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  Speaker 6: Three my guesses every team in The league tried to
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: do that and he had one hundred and nineteen.
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  Speaker 9: Catches, yeah, YEAH i mean there was.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: One you, know the same thing With, Puka like you,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: know you watch The rams tape and you're, like how's
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: he opened so wide open all the? Time, Yeah and
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: you know it's just good. Offense it's good.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: Scheme, Yep.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: Nick And ohio were being disrespected And i'm tired of.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: It have they've been watching our? Defense do we not
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: have two elite tight ends about? That do we not
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: have massive, meccollins one thousand yard Motivated Stefan. Diggs i'm
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: frustrated with the, media and this happens Every patriots Super.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Bowl let them talk because if there is one franchise
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: fueled by denial from the, haters it's The New England Patriots.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: Warriors we all we.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Got we all we need in ps big Super bowl
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  Speaker 2: party at local posts in The cincinnati it's a.
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  Speaker 3: Bar we're also fueled By duncan there you.
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  Speaker 4: GO i would just question for those of you in,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: there what was the Last Super bowl The patriots appeared
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: in that they were not expected to?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: Win thank, you no further.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: Questions that's all, Right, Paul it works for, us but.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: Like this happens Every Super bowl to disrespect like.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe like well, no and they do.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: Disrespect maybe in fourteen because The legion Of boom had
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: so much, respect there was people picking The seattle but.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: Like i'm not telling you, That i'm not telling you
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  Speaker 4: The Super bowl a lot of. PEOPLE i actually heard
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: someone before The Eagle Super bowl, say if you matched
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: up player for, player you would probably take twenty one
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: of The eagle starters over The. Patriots but The Brady
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: foles matchup is leading me to pick The. Patriots that's
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: what a lot that. Was it was one, guy but
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that Thought philadelphia could win that.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: Game there's a lot of people that Thought seattle.
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  Speaker 6: Could win that.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: Game Last, yeah not a lot of people thought The
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: rams are going to win that game Without, cooper cup
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: And gurley and the guys they were. Missing and nobody
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: thought The. Falcons nobody thought The falcons were beating The.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: Patriots nobody thought The giants were beating The patriots in either,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: game even though the even though The patriots the Second
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: Patriots giants, GAME i think The giants may have been,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: favored but no one thought The patriots are going to
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  Speaker 4: lose that game BECAUSE i thought it was going to
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: be all revenge for the last, time so like the
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: whole disrespect when really.
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  Speaker 10: SAD i would have bet my life on that game
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 10: that they were gotten The giants the second, Time.
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  Speaker 4: Carolina, please people didn't even Think carolina should have boably
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  Speaker 4: showing up to that game.
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  Speaker 6: Was one of those and that was a great, game great.
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  Speaker 2: Game, Yeah mike's In Puerto. Rico what's, Up, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
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  Speaker 8: Mike it's a Big Super bowl for.
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  Speaker 3: Us are you?
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  Speaker 17: called yesterday asking about the person In california that plays
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  Speaker 17: the bed in order to go to the.
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  Speaker 11: Game, yeah it was, you that's.
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  Speaker 9: Me what do you what do you?
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  Speaker 17: fifty to. One this was in the first week Of,
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  Speaker 17: october And i'm finding out that that might not be
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  Speaker 17: enough to get the two dickens wow to go to
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  Speaker 17: go with my. Girl BUT i am standing exactly. Five
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  Speaker 17: i'm at work right now AND i am five miles
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  Speaker 17: away From levi's AND i leave AND i live ten
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  Speaker 17: miles away From. Levi's ticket nice excited about.
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  Speaker 3: It, yeah all, right, well good. Luck to keep your eye.
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  Speaker 8: Out you got to keep that, money just keep.
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  Speaker 3: It sometimes the prices come down just before the.
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  Speaker 1: Game.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, yeah a good.
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  Speaker 2: Thing you don't have to, travel so it's just ticket.
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  Speaker 2: Money yeah all, Right so what so what was the final?
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  Speaker 2: Tally you've got two hundred and fifty to, One.
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  Speaker 8: So is that twenty? TIMES i don't know how so.
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  Speaker 9: Correct.
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  Speaker 17: It's fifty ten, thousand two.
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  Speaker 15: Hundred you can get.
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  Speaker 3: Two tickets for ten thousand dollars four.
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  Speaker 17: Grant you might want to check the they're right, NOW
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  Speaker 17: i mean the lowest that you can find out. There
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  Speaker 17: it's probably like sixty five.
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  Speaker 15: Hundred But i've heard, this that's what you're.
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  Speaker 17: Saying i'm, monitoring, hoping hoping they come. Down i'm willing
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  Speaker 17: to go a little bit out of. Pocket BUT i
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  Speaker 17: genuinely thought that that would get me, it but it. Didn't, okay,
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  Speaker 17: again getting to See Green day as one of the opening,
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  Speaker 17: acts and then getting to see That bunny and My
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  Speaker 17: patriots in such a great, SEASON i, MEAN i couldn't
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  Speaker 17: ask for.
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  Speaker 3: More all, Right, yeah a little out of pocket won't kill.
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  Speaker 9: You green.
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  Speaker 3: Day all, right Thanks. Mike let's go To joe In.
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  Speaker 3: Chicago joe is. Back what's?
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  Speaker 15: Heat, no it's cold.
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  Speaker 2: yep that's pretty. Cool.
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  Speaker 4: There's not this stretch of expanse between the mailbox in my.
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  Speaker 3: House you can make fun of. ME i literally it's
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  Speaker 9: Course.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: No and my, neighborhood all the mailboxes are on the.
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  Speaker 4: House they, walk they walk out the walk away and
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  Speaker 4: they put the mail in the.
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  Speaker 5: Mailbox he's still if he goes down the street on
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  Speaker 5: the right hand, side then he can just pop out
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  Speaker 5: and not have to go in the.
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  Speaker 14: Middle.
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  Speaker 4: Boom all, right Sorry joe studio football question because he
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  Speaker 4: just mail.
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  Speaker 3: TALK i just wanted, to you, know thank.
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  Speaker 15: You first of, all you guys get me through my.
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  Speaker 23: to listening to you guys in my first time.
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  Speaker 15: Column but, yeah you guys get make it your route every.
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  Speaker 3: Day so thanks a. Lot, Okay, hey appreciate all you
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  Speaker 3: do on your mail. Route thank, You. Joe appreciate.
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  Speaker 7: THAT i have A Super bowl Ticket i'm seeing is
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 7: sixty nine hundred dollars and it's in section four hundred
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  Speaker 7: and one four.
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  Speaker 8: Hundred that's going to come.
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  Speaker 6: Down that's REALLY i want to come down to six
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  Speaker 6: and even six for game.
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  Speaker 3: Day i'll bet you want to.
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  Speaker 2: Bargain you'll get that ticket for half in ten. Days
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  Speaker 2: Haf let's go to chat IN.
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  Speaker 3: La what's?
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: Up?
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  Speaker 18: Chat, hey, guys how are you? DOING i was going
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 18: to ask you about, WELL i want to make one,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 18: statement SO i think there's gotta be one playoff game
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 18: where we see the regular season offense, play And i'm
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 18: curious because of how well the team has been managed
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 18: for the. Playoffs If, paul do you feel that your
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 18: credit To Drake may throughout the regular season because of
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 18: his performance being so?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 15: Great are you.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 23: Kind of changing your feeling about that now that we're in.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 18: The Super bowl with his poor performance?
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 6: Potentially, YEAH i actually talked about this a little bit.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: YESTERDAY i would feel better.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: About the overall team itself in that they've been able
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: to find different ways to.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: WIN i. DON'T i think it's a very fine.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: LINE i, think LIKE i, SAID i THINK i mentioned
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: on the postgame show When mike AND i you could
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: be having very different conversations if not for a couple
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: of very fortunate things that have. Happened AND i know
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: people don't want to hear, it so it's probably not
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: the time it's been the ot, like you, know, Like i'm,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: sorry if plays you're not sitting there, saying, oh maybe
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: it wasn't all About Drake. May, no it probably would
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: have all been About Drake may because you probably would
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: have lost the game if you only scored ten points in.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: It you, know, Again i'm not saying the game unfolds
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: the same. Way i'm just, saying if that game unfolds
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: And drake in Bow nick's, Plays denver probably scores more
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: than seven, points and then we're not necessarily, saying you,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: know the defense was, great you, know but like they
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: might have scored fourteen points and you might have. Lost
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: the defense was no less great if that had. Happened you,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: know If Sean payton kicks a couple of field, goals
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: we're having a different. Conversation the defense was, phenomenal AND
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: i do think that that's a positive sign for the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: team that it wasn't Just Drake may carrying them in
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: the three playoff. Wins that's a positive for the for the,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: defense for the team. Itself it speaks better for the entire.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: OPERATION i do agree.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 9: With with check and more complete team than we thought.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: They, are AND i did say that. YESTERDAY i think
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: that's probably the best thing that went. ON i don't
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: know about the deep thing.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 14: You say a.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: LOT i don't necessarily agree with.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: That but, well, yeah, guys that did okay when they
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 8: got in. There that's. ALL i just don't think you
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 8: can underestimate the weather.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: Either, oh the weather had a big part in.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 14: It.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah for the other team.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 17: Too no blowing in your, eyes there's nothing you can.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: Do, Yeah, no SHOULD i not credit the defense, then
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: well that's WHAT i thought they.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 17: Did they did.
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  Speaker 18: It they did absolutely the maximum they could possibly do
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 18: under the.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 15: CIRCUMSTANCES i.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: GUESS i think the defense has been phenomenal in all three.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: Games did the weather help, them of course it, Did
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: BUT i think the defense played really well in all three.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: Games.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: YEAH i mean they had.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: To, win whether it was because whether impacted or, not
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: they had to win a defensive, game and absolutely three.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 10: Times would you say these three playoff games have altered
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 10: how you view the offseason and you now think things
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 10: need to be done that you might not have thought
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 10: going into.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: This that's a great. QUESTION i don't know the. Answer,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 6: no it's a great.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: QUESTION a little bit, OFFENSIVELY i, think you, KNOW i
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 5: think they need another guy at.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: RECEIVER i thought that BEFORE i, did BUT i might
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: think strongly more.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: Strongly, YEAH i don't know that sports.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: SPREAD i think that you, know whether it's a tight
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: end or it's a it's a, receipt it doesn't. Matter
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: just they need another impact playmaker on, offense.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: BUT i think this game might.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: Have BUT i felt that before this, game dude brought
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: up the tight. End yesterday along With evan you were
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: talking about that they need the dude on the.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 8: Outside, yeah either, Way.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: I'm Not i'm not picky in terms of like if
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: it's you, Know gronk or if It's Randy, Moss, like you,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: know it doesn't like both are you build it?
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 9: Different but it's both. GREAT i think.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: Defensively the one guy that's changed my mind is Calebon, Chason,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: like you, know what are you going to do with?
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: Him he's a free agent at the end of the.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: Year with this playoff, run he's going to get The
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: Milton williams. Treatment probably of it's gonna he became.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 6: Harder, YEAH i.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: Me you, know he's a former first round pick that's
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: kind of realizing his potential under a good coaching, staff
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 5: and it's having the run of his life right.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 6: NOW i, MEAN i have to hope that he just
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: love it.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 10: Here so that's What i'm so interested in is is
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 10: does he really love it?
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 8: Here and you, know it does seem like he's got
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 8: a good.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 6: Relationship either, way you got to give him a lot
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 6: of money either, way you.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 8: Got to give him a lot of.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 10: Money and you Know landry falling off due to, injury
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 10: is he going to suddenly find the fountain of? Youth
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 10: the edge is a huge, need and it's you've already
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 10: had a guy in house that can do. IT i
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 10: think that they'd be smart to make Him Chase on a.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 10: FOCUS i don't think there's anybody else out there on
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 10: the market, that's you, know super.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 8: Pealing But i'd pair him and Then i'd have a
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 8: high round drop pick too at that.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: Position, like even if he's not the player that he's
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 5: been in the playoffs and he's closer to what he
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: was in the regular, season that's still a starting caliber edge.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: Rusher AND i feel like it's a little bit like
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: what they did with the offensive line a couple of years.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: Ago if he, walks, well now you need to starting
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: edge rushers and you've kind of created, this you, know
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: another hole in the. Boat so, Right, so LIKE i
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 5: feel like With Chase, on even if you overpay him
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: a little bit for the player he was in the regular,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: season if you know he's capable of this in the,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: playoffs that's where you're going to be hopefully a, lot you,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 5: know moving.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 10: Forward SO i think one thing that's changed for me
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 10: this season too was Just i'm probably gonna lean more
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 10: towards bigger receivers BECAUSE i think that's What drake like.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 10: Agreed you, Know i'm saying away from, small, shifty you,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 10: know no offense To Bob, douglas but it just it
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 10: doesn't seem like he think he has.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 6: A good okay with.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: That, NO i would much Prefer drake get more used
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: to smaller, receivers like not have to say there's a.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 6: Happy don't waste that kind of.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: Talent there's a happy medium between five foot eight and six, four,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: Right like it doesn't as you, Know Kashan boodie is
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 5: not not six, four he's six'. One but you, KNOW i,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: AGREE i think watching him throw the ball To Mac collins,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: specifically you see how comfortable he is because he does
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: have that catch radious that he doesn't have to be.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 9: Perfect.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 10: YEAH i also JUST i wonder about and this is
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 10: definitely Something paul will laugh, about but the fullback position
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 10: of like you just kind of Had Jack west over
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 10: here and he filled in and.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: He you, know can you get that?
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 9: Cover, well, yeah is coming Back brock. Lamp he is coming.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 8: BACK i know that there's only there's only.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: One they had a true, fullback they may have gone
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: fifteen in two instead of fourteen.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 10: THREE i know there's only One Kyle, Uschek but is
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 10: it too much to ask to find a guy who
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 10: can make some plays at that.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: Full back or improve the answer your?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 8: Question oh, yeah, yeah the offensive, line you have a full.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 9: Back they're.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 8: Fine he'll be. Back he'll be.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 9: Back is he any?
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 8: GOOD i don't.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 9: Know it's a it's don't. Listen your tea didn't say.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 8: Anything you're a Second titan.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: Too laras And Boston.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: Rights paul predicted The patriots in the Super bowl During
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: week one of the. Preseason at the one minute twenty
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: second mark into the postgame podcast after The commander's preseason,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: Game paul interrupts dus and, DECLARES i don't want to
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: get lost with the preseason, game BUT i think they're
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: going to the Super. Bowl check the, archives Given, Flowers, Bravo,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: matt dig it.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 6: Out see every once in a, while smite Ask paul comes.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 8: THROUGH i wasn't being snarky at all on that.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 6: One not snarky at, All.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: Chris writes In yesterday you Mentioned Matt collins talking about
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: warriors come out to, play and it reminded me of
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: a military tribute song that fits perfectly with The patriots warrior.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: Ethos i'd love to see someone rework it into The
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: patriots entrance song At foxborough talk about psyching the other team.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: OUT i don't know what it. Is he's got a YouTube.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: Blank we're not going to go to. That as we
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: head into The Super, bowl which matchup or position battle
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: is going to keep you up at night until the
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: game finally decides?
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 9: It, yeah.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: Defensive line against The patriots offensive lines the. GAME i,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: mean the one thing THAT i find that's a little
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 5: bit comforting about it is that they win a lot
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: with scheme and a lot with games or stunts up.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: Front and usually not, always but usually when you have
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: as much line movement as they do against mobile, quarterbacks
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 5: it can be problematic because it's aggressive and you can
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: lose your gaps and you can get out of, position
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: and you, KNOW i think there are opportunities that you
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 5: see on film with you, Know stafford is not exactly
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: the guy that's going to do that that maybe he
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: can get out of the hocket AND i don't know
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: if he's gonna be able to, throw but you, know
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: at least the running rushing that we've, seen you, know
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: in the playoffs maybe can continue at a high. Level
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: and maybe he does hit, one you know as a
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: thrower out of, structure which you know could be.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 9: Big you, Know.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 10: I'd love to see him get back to that. Play
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 10: just make this a great Super bowl to. Watch get
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 10: the WHOLE nfl world excited about this kid and his
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 10: potential and his. Skill but it ain't gonna be. Easy
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 10: this IS i JUST i love all these. Defenses they're all,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 10: different and you, know they all have different talent in different.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 10: Spots and you, know this one is funny BECAUSE i
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 10: don't think it's the most, talented but it's the.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 8: Best it's the one that plays the best. Together it's the.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 5: Deepest you, know they're seven eight deep on the defensive.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 5: Line they have a deep, secondary like THEY i think
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: it's probably the most complete personnel. Wise but, they LIKE i,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: said they they're. Aggressive you know they're gonna come after.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: Them their their turnaround was pretty. Remarkable you, know they
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: Fire carol to get rid of, uh what's His Nameino?
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: Smith and so people didn't know what they were going to.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: Do they they brought In, donald you, know first time head,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: coach and they turned it around just as much as
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: The patriots.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: Did mike McDonald's what did they do last? Year the
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: nine and, eight ten and seven and didn't they didn't
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: make the? Playoffs ten, wins but they, were you, know really.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: Tough it was a good job by The Pete.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 9: Carroll you know they were.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 5: Bad they were actually pretty good, offensively would you know
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 5: at the, end you know they had j s and
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 5: they HAD Dk metcalfe.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 9: Toward The Patriots Tyler lockett at the.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 6: End that was the first time that their defense fell
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 6: apart That that's really why what led to all the coaching.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: Changes eldred's In North. Carolina what's Up? Eldred hey doing?
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 14: It?
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: Okay did you lose your truck and? Job we don't
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: hear the horn.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 14: They?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: Now are? You you're not in the truck?
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 11: Lately, No i've been off for a couple of. Days, okay, yeah.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 11: Uh evan About Christmas elly out Of tennesse seat stuck
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 11: and round or Maybe chris bailed out a little. Bit
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 11: but he's going in the.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 5: First i've heard of the kid From louisville seeing him
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 5: a little. BIT i gotta be honest with The. Aldred
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 5: we're in Super bowl.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 9: Mode, yeah where's your?
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: Head i'm very very behind. It And bart brought it
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 5: up to me today and they started to stress me
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: out a little. Behind we're both very behind on The
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: it's not.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: Good, yeah that's a.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 11: Know where at The Super. Bowl two things that scares, me,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 11: Okay one lying back against walking out in the past
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 11: and them tied. In and two they secondary against our
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 11: wide receivers that they all call lean pass you, know
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 11: and can, cover but The rams scheme the way to
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 11: get him open, open my boy. Can't so this is
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 11: What i'm worrying.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: About.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 11: Okay IF i think it will be a one wide receiver, thing,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 11: No jase and is this volume. Guy but he had
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 11: no problem to on to nobody. Else and where he
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 11: looked at in that championship. GAME i think he got
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 11: a chip on his Uh Donald. Donald the way he
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 11: looked at the championship, GAME i think he got something
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 11: to prove, too you, know because everybody doubted. Him, also, yeah.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: Even doing a touchdown the deuces, Guy Jake bobo, All it's,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: like what is happening?
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 10: HERE i gotta get over this table at media AND i, Somehow,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 10: yeah The bobo took some dumb on hill, hockey.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 5: You, know THE Nfc championship game. Table The rams offense
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 5: against The seahawks defense was. DEPRESSING i was, like oh,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: Cool i'll just Get pookingakua and like, YOU i won't be.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 5: Good Uh SO I i was like kind of like
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 5: in a dark place after watching that one BECAUSE i can't.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 5: WIN i was, LIKE i don't you can't Replicate Matthew
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 5: stafford throwing a dime To pooking the coula Who moss
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: is a?
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 9: Guy and then like.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: Sick but the regular season game Again Rams, seahawks the
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 5: one that went to overtime In seattle towards the end
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: of the. Season there was a lot of open receivers
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: on that, tab like wide open receiver And.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 6: Tampa must have done something against him because they had
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 6: a high school that was.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 9: A long time.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: Ago but, YEAH i, Agree, yeah but The seattle, one,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 5: see The rams won during the regular. SEASON i think
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 5: it Was week sixteen that went to. OVERTIME i was, like,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 5: okay all, right here's some. Things here's some.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 4: Right it's seventeen, seventeen, thirteen twenty thirty eight Against tampa
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: twelve nineteen, fourteen twenty, two twenty, one twenty four zero
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: nine sixteen thirty seven against The rams ten and.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: Three it's like two bad games all.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 9: Year, yeah, yeah The. Rams that game was LIKE i
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 9: found some peace in that.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: Game Was paulette is in? Quinsy what's, Up?
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 24: PAULETTE i just want to talk a little bit ABOUT
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 24: Thefc championship. Gig The pakers must be in great chase
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 24: because you see everybody else In. Denver they're on the,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 24: sideline second, off and The patriots.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: Just sat there right. Agreed, absolutely we must be in great.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: Shape.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 5: YEAH i heard you couldn't win. THAT i heard the
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: altitude WAS i haven't even done this this. WEEK i
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 5: heard the altitude was too, much too much to. Overcome
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: what do.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: You think about The patriots killing another offensive coordinator or?
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: Coordinator was that?
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 9: WORTHY i went on a little bit of a rant about, that, RIGHT.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 8: I, mean it seems like they Were, okay it's that's my.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: Right it's you call the, plays, dude like this is your,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 5: Offense like you scapeged your offensive coordinator when.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: It's a coordinator didn't decide not to go up to.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: SCHOOLS i thought it was that was your.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: Call and he also fired the wide receivers coach, too
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: because he claimed that they were dropping too many. Passes
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 5: AND i was, like, dude this is this is your,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: Offense like this is you Are Sean. Payton you call the.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 8: Plays you have to.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: Play rant last week About Sean payton AND i, said,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: like it's one of the things that LIKE i thought
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: was an intangible that kind of flipped was because he
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: was without his. Quarterback, now maybe he didn't have any
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: pressure on, him BECAUSE i Think Sean payton has a
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: little choker in. HIM i think he's a really good,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: coach BUT i think he has some choker in. Him
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 4: you saw the choker he choked a little bit in that.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: Game that was some bad decision making in critical. Situations
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 4: and he did the same thing with The. Saints AND i,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: Know i'll just give you one example that no one
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: ever talks about because it was such an egregiously bad
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 4: call on that pass and appearance that put The rams
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: in The Super. Bowl the last time The patriots were
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: in The Super, bowl do you remember that blatant miscall
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: on the passing. Apperance no one remembers that The rams
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: had no timeouts, left and if The saints had just
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: run the ball on second and third, down they could
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: have called time out and kicked the field goal as
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: time expired to win the. Game but for some, reason
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: he decided to throw the ball got screwed when they
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: didn't call passing, Appearance and everybody says that he you,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: know he did everything. Right that's losing track of the,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: game losing track of a situation at a mike at
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: a critical juncture of the.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 5: Game AND i just thought it WAS i, mean he
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 5: said it, all but like he got beat By Zach
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: korran multiple times in key, spots like he admitted. It,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 5: yeah and he admitted, it and then he comes out
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 5: the next day and Fires Joe, lombardi, like so it
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: was his fault that you called a boot on fod
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 5: down and didn't Block Milton. Williams LIKE i Just i'm
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 5: With paula As Sean. PAYNE i THINK i.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: Like Sean payton as a. COACH i think he's a good.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: Coach i'm not telling you he's a. STIFF i think
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 4: he's a little.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: Overrated chad From, Schenectady, schenectady, right sin CAN i just
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: say that If stafford was dealing with a shoulder thing
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: Like may, is the media would be talking about it
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: like he's playing through an injury that requires surgery and
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: could threaten his. Career With, may it's mild to no
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: concern from national media and will get brushed off the
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: one eighty from national darlings to public enemy number. One
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: that has happened since people realize The patriots might actually
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: be good again and make Another Super bowl a few weeks,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: ago should be. Studied whatever feels good to be us
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: against the world, Again.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 6: So they're Not CAN i ask a question, NOW i
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 6: guess you.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: Can't do you want them to talk About Drake may's
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 4: shoulder or do you not want him to actually?
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 9: Try the whole conversation?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 4: Nauseating, okay, so So evan doesn't want to talk about.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 9: The shoulder at, all like he's gonna, Play SO i would.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: Agree i'm not that this is not a refermendum on
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: what your opinion. Is i'm saying this guy wants them
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: to talk more about the shoulder. Injury other people think
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: they're talking too much about the shoulder. Injury, okay when
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: was the last time you heard anybody talk About Matthew
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 4: stafford's back injury that kept him out of the entire
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 4: summer and threatened his. Season when was the last time
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 4: you heard anybody talk about? That well in the region Of,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: august is the last time that that was talked?
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: About?
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 6: Correct did anybody talk about?
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: That in THE Afc championship Game we're watching and he's
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 4: doing all of this with this, problem like his his
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: career almost ended In. August there was questions of whether
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: or not he was going to be able to play
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: this season at.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 6: All, yeah was on. IT i just like to you,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 6: know present the.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 9: Facts did you hear yesterday The Big boy on with.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 6: Oh Oh, god an?
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 9: Embarrassment that was fantastic.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 20: RADIO i.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: Have the audacity to ask him what he knew About
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 4: Drake may's shoulder, injury and basically The Big boy told,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 4: him we're not talking about, that and shut, Up. Felger
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: this is a non. STORY I i already told you
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: this is a non. Story like like he broke the story.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: LIKE i just enjoyed his recording for people he.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 6: Trusts what an, unbelievable unbelievable.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: BABY i just love when, people you, know yell At.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 5: Felger it Just felga just. Laughs it's so.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: Funny alex And lowell not able to listen, live so
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: apologies if this has been. Discussed thinking about how the
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: offense has been in a lull this, postseason it got
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: me wondering If josh McDaniels says any tricks up his
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: sleeve For Marcus jones in The Super. BOWL i think
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: the offense will turn things around regardless in two, weeks
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: but if we get desperate Against, seattle up might be
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: worth to have a play or two in hand For.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: Jones.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: Wrinkle you don't have to save anything right last. Game
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: you're not worried about keeping him healthy.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 8: Anymore gonna have he's.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: Got you get him out there and it's, like, Okay Marcus,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: JOSEPH i don't feel.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: Hasn't that happened every time he's been on the field,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: OFFENSIVELY i, Guess and he seems to make a.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 6: Play they've used.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 9: Him as a decoy before.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: TOO i MEAN i think that is, true, Though, Fred,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 5: like if you're only going to do it once and
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 5: you're gonna throw him the, ball it's pretty, predictable whereas
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: if you've shown it on tape, before where you have gadget,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 5: plays and sometimes he's a decoy and sometimes he. Isn't
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: then it becomes a little bit more. USEFUL I i two,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: PLAYS i would say, that you, Know i'd more be
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: interested In Travon henderson returning kickoffs and seeing if.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: He i've been wondering when that was going to happen to,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: me maybe especially with his workload really being cut back
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: because it's Been he.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 5: Played four snaps in The Apes championship game AND i
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 5: didn't kick off a, Lot so you know that obviously
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: played a. Role but you can't tell me that he
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: couldn't be a better option than dearness From.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: WICHITA i think one positive takeaway from playing three consecutive,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: messy find a way to win type games is that
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: McDaniels hasn't had to get too deep into the. PLAYBOOK
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: i bet there are eight or more plays in the
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: Super bowl that we haven't seen. Before i'm excited to
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: see anything they can scheme.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: Up, Also i'm going to accept that challenge on behalf Of.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: EVAN i want you to tell me if there's any
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: place that you haven't Seen i've actually AND i got
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: to tell you there's a laundry list of trick plays
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: that they're running every game they ran a flee Flicker Marcus.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: Jones YET i do uh you, KNOW i do think
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  Speaker 5: that some of their core concepts that they've ran all
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  Speaker 5: year could use like a left, hook you, know like,
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  Speaker 5: okay you we love, Stick so like now we're going
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  Speaker 5: to run like, stick, no and you're going to jump
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  Speaker 5: the stick and then he's going to go up thee you.
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  Speaker 5: Know and LIKE i haven't really done a lot of
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  Speaker 5: that because they didn't really have, to you, know but
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  Speaker 5: as a time they.
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  Speaker 4: Might have some adjustments and, whatnot because there always are
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  Speaker 4: AND i think That josh is pretty, creative but they're
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  Speaker 4: empty in the book every.
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  Speaker 2: Week, yeah this is more about like we should run
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  Speaker 2: quad post quad post. Four it's a commis it's a nuclear,
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  Speaker 2: quad right you hit the, button nuclear war four guys
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  Speaker 2: goes straight.
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  Speaker 6: And just so if you have so for you could
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  Speaker 6: take all four guys out with one one.
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  Speaker 5: Defender so so for vert ye best player in sports
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  Speaker 5: is it? Fours, WELL i personally am a fan Of
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  Speaker 5: I'll Go, Special all Go, Special i'll Go, special which
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: is like four, verts but the inside receiver runs like
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 5: more of like a post than a go and it
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  Speaker 5: kind of occupies the safety.
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  Speaker 9: A little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Better but that's like about everybody this.
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  Speaker 6: Year what about the st.
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  Speaker 5: Liberty i'm less interested in all these little trick plays
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: and more interested in like everybody kind of knows what
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: you run, Now so like what is the compliment off
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  Speaker 5: of that thing you've been running all year that maybe
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 5: they don't haven't seen on film, yet you, Know like
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: they know that you're going to Run stefan digs on
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 5: a little option route over the middle of the, Field so,
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  Speaker 5: like is there another thing that they can do off of?
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 9: That like maybe he goes vertical instead of.
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  Speaker 3: You, know what about mesh rub.
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  Speaker 9: Closer that's a real. Thing mesh mess is a real.
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  Speaker 5: THING i, mean mesh rub is kind of.
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  Speaker 9: Redundant it's kind of like atm.
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  Speaker 2: Machine but you get to the mesh you, know you
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  Speaker 2: get to the mesh point and they give them a little.
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  Speaker 8: RUB i don't want to know. What you're, relaxed and
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 8: then you get away.
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  Speaker 3: One other thing From matt before you go.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: On hold that, thought, deuce what does this defense have
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: to do to get national media? Attention after every game
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: the narrative is the other team screwed.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: Up there might be some truth to that one THE
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 4: us because they not that its, us.
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  Speaker 6: They're jealous of.
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  Speaker 5: Us if you're going to go with THE hata Single
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  Speaker 5: Bill belichick not being a first Ballot hall Of famer
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: is definitely more than the defense getting. Disrespected, NO i was.
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  Speaker 10: Just, SAY i think it'd be a good question For
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  Speaker 10: josh of just what have you learned over the course
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 10: of going to so Many Super bowls about what you
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 10: need in your game? Plan, like you, know what would
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 10: you take into your game plan now that maybe those
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 10: first couple of times you were, like, SHOOT i, mean you,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 10: know a class example was having like a.
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  Speaker 8: Bunch of two point. PLAYS i think they, said, oh
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 8: we had a bunch of two point plays in or.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever but, no, no, no, no, knowing, no, no you got it.
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  Speaker 9: Wrong you got it.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 6: Wrong it's because they, knew.
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  Speaker 4: You think it was going to be a high scoring
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: game and they were going to need extra.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: Two point plays at, least you know, What.
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  Speaker 6: That's another whole argument all in.
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  Speaker 5: Itself you also like fourth, down you know NOW i
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 5: think THAT i find that so fascinating now that teams
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 5: are going for, It i'm more on fourth.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 9: Down you need more fourth down.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 5: Plays like you need you, needed like you might go
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 5: into a game with like one or two four in
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: one place for like a got to have a Dry but,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 5: now If Mike rabel Says josh in the first, half
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: you know it's fourth and, one we're going for.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: It something we probably we're coming to the end. Today
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: but Something i've been meaning to meaning to bring.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: Up we need to Teach Drake may how to. Sneak
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: he's not a good sneaker. Yet, no you know he's
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  Speaker 3: not a good. Sneaker.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 5: Good, no these are the things that you, know you
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 5: wish that situation was a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Different reminded me of the fourth and. One it's just With,
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  Speaker 3: brady he's got to be a better.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 5: Sneaker teach him how to play in the, cold teach
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  Speaker 5: him how to put how to, sneak like these little
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  Speaker 5: things that if he wasn't a part owner of The.
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  Speaker 3: Raiders all, right, listen we gotta. Go we got a
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: lot to.
• 1:57:40
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