Latest / What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie? / #236: We Summon the Darkness (2020)

Transcript

#236: We Summon the Darkness (2020) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

0:06
Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
0:11
Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville and welcome to the church grift.
0:17
Well, what's your least very scary movie?
0:18
This is the podcast where you talk about the goods, about the
0:20
ugly and the absurd in all of our.
0:22
Favorite and least favorite? Scary movies.
0:24
Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has its fan
0:26
base. Even if we don't always get it.
0:28
My name is Travis. My name is Jesse, and it's
0:31
October. It's the best time of the year.
0:36
But on the show, what it specifically means is that we're
0:39
getting a little something new for ourselves every week, with
0:42
the exception of our of our franchise movie.
0:46
But what we do is we take turns picking a movie that the other
0:49
hasn't seen. And then we'll also watch a
0:51
movie that neither of us has seen.
0:53
And that's going to be decided by our Patreon bobbies.
0:56
Yeah. So we're really excited to go
0:57
ahead and get this kicked off. This has become a little October
1:00
tradition for us and it's a lot of good fun.
1:03
And this time we're starting off.
1:04
This is my pick for something Travis has never seen, and it's
1:07
called We Summon the Darkness. So we'll get into that in a
1:11
minute. But first I want to go over some
1:13
announcements. And that is that if you are a
1:16
budget tier patron, your bonus episode came out over the
1:19
weekend and it was a commentary track.
1:21
Yeah. And this time it was over one of
1:23
the best in the South franchise, Psalm 6.
1:26
So go ahead and make sure you give that a listen.
1:30
We had a lot of fun with it. We got Talia's commentary
1:33
included. We got some snores in there,
1:35
yeah. And there's also a moment where
1:37
I let her outside. We were walking around with our
1:40
new lav lav mics so. Yeah, we're, we're having fun
1:43
with them. Yeah.
1:44
So, all right, do we have any poll results, Travis, we do OK.
1:49
OK, so last week we talked about Bride of Chucky and just wanted
1:54
to see which style Chucky you guys preferred.
1:58
So you get the stitched look that was introduced in Bride of
2:00
Chucky and then also wanted to see if you prefer the OG good
2:04
guy. So on Instagram, 47% stitched,
2:07
53 OG good guy. Twitter 25% OG good guy, 75
2:13
stitched. OK.
2:14
So we're a little bit split up. Yeah.
2:17
I prefer the stitch. I prefer the stitch too, and
2:20
that's one of the things about this is like, I feel like the
2:22
fan base is torn. Yeah, it seems that way with the
2:25
pole here too. I think that's kind of cool
2:27
though. Yeah, I mean, it's just such an
2:29
iconic look though. I love the stitched face.
2:32
It's so good. OK, that's that's it for purple.
2:35
That was an easy one, this. Week easy peasy this time or now
2:39
that means that it's on to the movie.
2:42
So I've got some background information for we summon the
2:44
darkness. OK, now the movie premiered
2:47
February 26th, 2019 at the Mammoth Film Festival, but it's
2:50
like official release date is April 10th, 2020.
2:55
We watched it on Peacock, but as of the end of September, who
2:59
knows how much this has changed. But it was available to stream
3:03
on Peacock TV, Pluto TV, Plex Prime freebie, YouTube Premium
3:07
or YouTube TV Premium. You can also rent it from Google
3:10
Play or Fandango at home. So it's a fairly watchable
3:13
movie. It's out there.
3:14
It's available written by Alan Trezza, directed by Mark Myers,
3:19
music by Tim Williams, who also did the composition for Pearl.
3:24
Really. Wow.
3:25
So I thought that was kind of cool, special effects makeup.
3:28
I just put the head of the makeup department.
3:31
Nobody was specifically listened listed as special effects, but
3:35
the head of the makeup department was Rose Gerovich.
3:38
Interesting. You know, and you mentioned the
3:40
thing about Pearl there, but I saw some similarities between
3:44
this movie and X, how it opened, you know what I mean?
3:48
I could see that. Yeah, we get the little pastor
3:50
guy. Yeah, you get the people on the
3:52
road stuff at that gas station. Yeah, yeah, I see that.
3:55
Got Johnny Knoxville. Yeah, Johnny Knoxville is a very
3:59
important part of X, as we all know.
4:01
Yeah, Starring Alexandria Daddario as Alexis, Maddie
4:05
Hassan as Val, Amy Forsyth is Beverly, Ken Johnson is Mark,
4:10
Logan Miller is Kovacs, Austin Swift is Ivan, and Johnny
4:14
Knoxville as Pastor John Henry Butler.
4:17
Got to say, this is probably one of the weirder casts we've had
4:20
on the show. It is honestly, though, like it
4:23
was one of those. It was like, oh, I know this
4:25
guy, I know that guy, I know her, I know her.
4:28
So I thought that was just kind of interesting that they all
4:30
have, like, connections elsewhere.
4:33
Yeah, for us. You know, it's like I said, it's
4:36
just weird for me. It's weird.
4:38
I don't know. If you're if you are wondering
4:41
who is who, so Alexandria Todario, I personally love the
4:47
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D and she is the one who says, do you
4:52
think? Do you think?
4:54
Maddie Hassan, She is the sister.
4:56
That's the Princess, the birthday Princess in Malignant.
4:59
Amy Forsyth is in Hellfest and Logan Miller is in the Escape
5:04
Room movies. And Johnny Knoxville is a
5:08
stuntman best known for his work on a little franchise called
5:12
Jackass. Yeah.
5:14
That's the thing. It's just, it's so weird seeing
5:17
him act. Yeah, we've heard him do like
5:20
voice acting before, but like actually seeing him in a movie
5:23
role? I've seen him in, he has one,
5:26
it's called where he does like the Special Olympics.
5:29
I can't remember what it's called, You know what I'm
5:31
talking about. Yeah, I know what you're talking
5:33
about. But other than that, oh, it's
5:35
the ringer. That's what it's called.
5:36
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's the only thing I've
5:38
ever seen him, like, actually act in.
5:40
I know that he wanted to be an actor originally.
5:42
Yeah, yeah. Things things were different
5:45
than. He was.
5:46
He planned for. He got his foot into the
5:49
industry however he could. Yeah, yeah.
5:52
OK, Travis has time for our favorite game.
5:55
Budget or button? This is an easy bug, Ted.
6:00
Yeah. So bug Ted that I actually do
6:03
not have the financials on it. Yeah, that's not surprising.
6:05
That's what that's where we're at with that opening box office
6:09
quote UN quote 6.7 thousand and a worldwide gross of 190,000
6:15
this. Is during COVID, right?
6:16
Yeah. So yeah, this kind of got fucked
6:18
over with that. IMDb score 5.2 out of 10.
6:22
OK. OK, I've got 3 movies.
6:25
I chose 2020 for all of them since that seems to be the year
6:28
that this is more credited towards.
6:30
Yeah OK. And my theme is nerds.
6:34
Nerds, nerds. Wait, who are the nerds in this
6:36
movie? The the metalheads, they're
6:38
nerds. Metalheads are nerds.
6:39
I'm sorry, metalheads that are listening right?
6:41
Y'all are nerds about your music.
6:43
They are. They are kind of nerdy.
6:44
You're right. Yeah.
6:45
Yeah, so the first one I have is Scare Me because the authors,
6:49
they're nerds about their craft. Yeah, yeah.
6:52
That released October 1st, 2020. I don't have a budget or a gross
6:57
for it. That was another one that went
6:59
straight to streaming. Yeah, that's a good movie.
7:01
Though it's a good movie, it's one I've actually thought about
7:04
talking about on the show, so it's it's fun.
7:08
That has an IMDb score 5.7 out of 10.
7:14
Yeah. 2nd movie The Hunt. The wait, who's the nerd in
7:20
that? The conspiracy theorists.
7:22
Conspiracy theorists. Yeller nerds.
7:26
Yeah, I guess they are kind of nerds, aren't they?
7:28
Yeah. That released March 13th, 2020.
7:33
Like literally the day before everything got shut down in
7:36
Kentucky. Oh.
7:37
Dude, Yeah, yeah, we. We saw it in theaters that day.
7:40
Empty theatre, so I don't know if the box office would have
7:44
been great for that one anyways 'cause it was empty, but then
7:47
again we went in the middle of a weekday, so.
7:48
Yeah, that one had that one. Between COVID and between the
7:53
backlash for the story itself, it got kind of screwed over.
7:57
On its theatrical run, it had a budget of 14,000,000 and a
8:01
worldwide gross of 10.5 million. IMDb score of 6.6 out of 10.
8:05
If you want our further thoughts on that, we covered.
8:07
It So yeah, it's a really good movie.
8:09
It's a real fun movie. And then finally, the babysitter
8:14
Killer Queen. OK, I know who the nerd is.
8:17
Yeah, Cole. Cole is just the nerd.
8:20
Like, I got the standard nerd in the list too, right?
8:25
The nerd. The nerd gets them in this one
8:27
though. They.
8:27
Always do they, Never not. That released September 10th
8:34
2020. I don't have a budget or a
8:36
growth because it's a Netflix movie.
8:38
It has a 5.8 out of 10 on IMDb though.
8:40
OK. Yeah, that's a solid one.
8:42
I like the first one better, but that one's OK.
8:45
Yeah, I think the second one would have been a little bit
8:47
better if they hadn't tried to turn the best friend into like.
8:52
Hell of interest. No, not even that, because they
8:56
had like their whatever going on in the 1st movie, their
9:02
chemistry, so to speak. Yeah, but no, they tried to kind
9:07
of make her copy some Mara Weaving's character from the
9:10
first one, and it's just a little weird.
9:13
Yeah, OK. Yeah, I can see that.
9:15
Yeah, OK. I've got a few tag lines.
9:18
OK. And there were several different
9:20
posters, so I think that these were all on a different
9:23
variation of the poster. OK.
9:27
So the first one is let us pray. That, pray, is spelled PREY.
9:31
I feel like we've seen that tagline before.
9:34
Yeah, I. Swear we've seen that before.
9:39
No, now that you say that, I do remember talking about.
9:41
That, yeah, I don't, I don't know, like, I don't know which
9:45
movie it would have been. We've got so many of them.
9:47
Where? Yeah, we.
9:48
Get the prey in the predator. But yeah, second one, OK, be
9:52
careful what you pray for. Is that one?
9:57
AY, yes, I would say why? I think it'd be funny if it was,
10:01
you know, EY, be careful what you pray for, yeah?
10:05
That would be pretty on though. Come on, it's a play.
10:10
It's not a good play if you have to change grammar.
10:13
I don't do play goods. I can't talk today.
10:18
And then finally, it's gonna be 1 hell of a party.
10:22
Oh. God, these are lame man, I'm
10:24
sorry. That last one makes me think of
10:26
that. I think you should leave a
10:27
sketch where he's like and this is like a late night tour so we
10:31
can say whatever the hell we want.
10:36
Yeah, yeah, I'm not too inspired by this.
10:38
So we're gonna have a lot to work with.
10:39
Yeah, I think we we've, we've definitely got this.
10:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK. Fun facts.
10:45
I don't have my like standard fun facts of like, you know,
10:48
different production notes and stuff like that.
10:50
Instead, I've got three different interviews.
10:53
The first one is from Nightmarish Conjurings with Mark
10:56
Myers. He got the script and he thought
10:59
it seemed really fun. He thought it seemed relevant
11:02
beyond just like a horror genre film, what with like the
11:06
creating fear to control people kind of thing.
11:09
And his wife, who has been his like producer, she also agreed
11:14
and thought it would be like a really good script for them to
11:16
do. The bonfire scene was shot in
11:19
one night and in between takes they were like blasting heavy
11:23
metal on the set to keep everybody in like the vibe of
11:26
the party. Oh, that's cool.
11:28
I. Like that, Yeah.
11:30
And then I also got this really cool quote about music from him.
11:35
A music supervisor told me that when they look at the habits on
11:37
Spotify or iTunes, that if you love other kinds of music, you
11:41
sample lots of other kinds of music.
11:42
You might listen to mostly rock, but you listen to some jazz,
11:45
some classical, some folk. You're open to pop.
11:48
But the people who love metal, they generally almost only
11:51
listen to metal. So we knew we were making a
11:53
movie that had a very loyal core audience.
11:56
Yeah, metal's like the horror of the the music genres.
11:59
Yeah, the hardcore fans, they argue about different sub
12:03
genres. They've got all of this obscure
12:05
knowledge. That's the weird thing.
12:07
I feel like that that's the one part of me being a horror fan
12:11
that I feel out of place on because I'm not a metal fan at.
12:13
All like. I just, I don't gravitate
12:15
towards that at all. But I love horror.
12:18
Yeah, which is the metal of the video.
12:20
Cinema. Cinema yeah I'm doing my best
12:23
it's early okay I'm. Doing my best yeah, our
12:26
recording schedule got really thrown off this weekend and
12:30
we're both kind of struggling to get there.
12:33
Yeah, okay. This next interview was Collider
12:36
with Alexandria Daddario. So she her favorite scene with
12:43
because they asked her what her favorite scene was with Maddie
12:46
Hassan because those characters especially seemed to really
12:49
click and they just wanted to hear about their chemistry.
12:51
Maddie was the blonde, right? Yes.
12:53
OK. And she said it was in the
12:54
kitchen when they were, like, eating Twinkies and just being,
12:57
like, stupid. And apparently she said, you
12:59
know, there was some improv in the movie, but the script itself
13:03
was also really solid. So she was like, honestly, I
13:06
don't even remember if this was scripted or not, like, because
13:08
the script was so strong. Yeah, as it was, she said Johnny
13:13
Knoxville was like incredibly concerned with safety because of
13:16
his past experience with being a stunt coordinator and also
13:19
knowing exactly how wrong things can go.
13:22
So he's very concerned with thinking, sure, everybody was
13:23
safe throughout. Interesting.
13:25
I wonder if he was like present on set because his character
13:29
doesn't really do anything. That was like, oh, I'm going to
13:32
hurt you, You know what I mean? Yeah, well, she said that she
13:34
didn't really get to work with him a whole lot because he was
13:36
really. They're barely together, yeah.
13:39
So that that was her main take away from him was that he was
13:42
just like, wanted everything to be safe.
13:44
And finally, the hair crimper that they used from her hair was
13:47
actually from the 80's. The hair stylist had found it in
13:51
a box of like, stuff from like her ex-boyfriend.
13:54
Oh, really? Yeah.
13:55
So the the crimper was actually like an 80s crimper.
13:57
So I think that's like a fun little detail because crimpers
14:00
are kind of making a comeback. So in my head, I was just like,
14:03
OK, that's, you know, perfect timing for, you know, a style
14:06
thing to come back. But no, this is legit.
14:10
Like, honestly, I'm watching this movie and it could be
14:14
today, yeah. It doesn't.
14:15
It really could. So like whenever I'm watching, I
14:18
wasn't really picking anything apart.
14:20
I go, that's not a 80s, that's not a days.
14:21
I'm like like, I don't know, I guess it's the 80s or is this
14:25
today? Because like it could be either.
14:26
Like you got the mullets, the strong mullets in this.
14:29
Well, until, until the stepmom comes in and she's like, I
14:33
called your father from the car phone.
14:36
But she's all coked up too, so maybe she's just like, you mean
14:40
cell phone? OK, and then finally I've got an
14:44
interview with Maddie Hassan for Pop Horror.
14:48
So she actually originally auditioned for the role of Bev,
14:50
but Mark Myers was like, I don't really see you as Bev.
14:54
But the role of Val was already taken by somebody.
14:57
So she just was like, OK, I guess I don't get to be a part
15:00
of this project. And then he calls her up and
15:01
he's like, hey, that actress we had for Val had to drop out.
15:04
Do you want to come on board? And she goes, sure.
15:06
Do you want me to come in and read for the part?
15:07
And he goes, Nope, you're you're able to just come on in for it.
15:10
And she was like, all right, no turning back now.
15:13
And she said, like, she's a person that swears a lot already
15:16
anyway. But she says she thinks this is
15:18
like the most, like, vulgar language she's ever used on a
15:20
set. Like they're all just very free
15:22
and open with stuff. Yeah, that's a, that's a
15:23
dramatic shift in character right there.
15:26
You got him in person and then that.
15:29
Yeah, and then finally I actually got some technical
15:32
details from her interview a little bit.
15:35
This was shot in Manitoba, Canada.
15:38
Took about a month to shoot and everything was shot at night.
15:41
Everything, even the daytime scenes.
15:45
Everything was shot at night, that's what she said.
15:48
Like I don't know, it was a weird creative choice.
15:51
Like they had to do some post production and like make it look
15:54
like daytime but everything at night.
15:57
All right, before we go into a good, bad, ugly and absurd, I'm
16:00
just going to explain why I picked this movie for you.
16:03
And as it goes, I was laid up at home earlier this month after
16:06
like some medical stuff. And I was just, you know,
16:09
watching movies all day as you do in that scenario.
16:12
And I found this, the poster caught my attention.
16:16
And then I saw it was Alexandria Daddario and Johnny Knoxville.
16:19
And I was like, well, I've got an hour and 25 minutes.
16:23
I'm not going anywhere. They knew what they were doing
16:25
by throwing those two on the. Post yeah.
16:27
Those two together, Oh my God, I see what this is.
16:31
And I actually had a really fun time with it and I was texting
16:34
Travis about it and we made a whole thing watching the other
16:38
people's other movies that night.
16:40
Oh, we did, didn't we? We got.
16:41
Home from work, Yeah. We did our thing cuz and then we
16:44
did some Jack gas. Yeah, Yeah, we did.
16:47
I didn't do escape room, so I haven't done.
16:49
You did that one. Without one.
16:50
Yeah, I did that one without you.
16:52
Yeah. So yeah, that's what that's why
16:56
I picked this. So I'm very excited to hear your
16:58
thoughts and let's go ahead and start off with the good.
17:00
OK, so this is AI like the premise for this, and I think
17:06
that whenever we introduce the metal heads, like when they
17:11
arrive at the show, that's when the movie starts to finally get
17:13
rolling. The build up at the beginning is
17:16
kind of slow. It it's kind of at first like
17:20
this is not a movie that immediately grabs me.
17:22
But once we get like the other characters there and they start
17:25
to interact, I like their chemistry.
17:27
I think that they have fun together.
17:29
I like those characters a lot. Those guys, they're just like
17:32
fucking around. And I think that's so funny
17:35
because I was immediately grabbed by the girls.
17:38
Chemistry. Yeah.
17:39
In the car. And I think it's just funny
17:40
because those were our different experiences growing up with our
17:43
friend groups because like they're.
17:44
I guess it's true. And how they are in the car felt
17:46
very real to me. Yeah, I guess that's true
17:49
because the chemistry with the guys felt real to me.
17:51
Well, I also agree about that I've got some specific points I
17:55
want to make when it's my turn. OK.
17:58
And like, I was worried that this was going to be like, they
18:04
get a target, they get them, they move on to the next.
18:06
But I like that we stuck with this group of people at that
18:10
house. Once it gets to that location,
18:12
that's when the movie really takes off for me.
18:14
Yeah. Because I didn't expect it to be
18:17
like, AI thought it was going to be like a more drawn out
18:19
process. Yeah.
18:20
But then whenever they already get them tied up and they kill
18:24
Ivan was his name. Yeah, Yeah.
18:26
And then like, it becomes like a Survive the Night type movie at
18:30
that point. I'm like, oh that's fun.
18:32
Even in the horror movie with six man characters, the bassist
18:37
gets no goddamn respect. It's usually the drummer, man.
18:41
They make the drummer out to be the hero in this movie.
18:44
The front man's the guy that just kind of like, keeps getting
18:47
shit, but like, still he refuses to die until he does eventually,
18:51
but still. But yeah, no, you're right.
18:55
This is a pretty fun movie. Yeah, I had a good time with it.
18:59
I like the way that it resolved too.
19:02
Yeah. So for me specifically with
19:05
their their chemistry, I thought Logan Miller did a really good
19:09
job of playing that like cringe try too hard guy.
19:13
But like once he got drunk enough and just started being
19:16
normal, like you're like, I get why people are friends with him,
19:19
but at first you're like, Oh my God, you're so obnoxious.
19:21
Why is anybody friends with? You no, that's the that's the
19:24
energy right there that you see your friend doing where like
19:27
you're like, oh, they're just being stupid.
19:29
You're trying too hard. You're yeah, you're trying too
19:31
hard. You're wanting like all of the
19:33
attention right now. And at one point, the other guys
19:35
even call him out. On it, Yeah.
19:36
It comes across desperate when you do that.
19:38
Yeah, just yeah. Come on man.
19:40
I loved their like metal talk and I like how you could tell
19:43
that Alex is a big fucking faker because she didn't even try to
19:48
have that much knowledge ready at hand.
19:50
And the other side of it was Val was too over prepared like
19:55
knowing the exact date of her first concert and everything
19:58
whereas Bev is just there like very casual like with all of her
20:01
stuff. I could probably date some of
20:03
like the concerts, like some of my big concerts, like I think
20:07
the biggest one that we the first big one that I ever did
20:12
was probably Arctic Monkeys, Black Keys 2012.
20:17
Yeah, I couldn't tell you the exact date.
20:19
No, I can't tell you the date. I know it was March cuz it was
20:22
like very shortly after we started dating and it was spring
20:24
break, but I couldn't tell you the exact date of that.
20:27
And we drove to a tornado. Yeah, that's good.
20:30
Got very delicious coffees in the city center.
20:32
Yeah. But yeah, I guess you're right.
20:34
I can't, I can't pinpoint the date.
20:36
Yeah. I also, I really like, I saw the
20:40
twist coming that the girls were gonna be the killers, but I
20:45
didn't see that they were actually like church people that
20:50
that like forced manufactured satanic panic was the actual
20:55
twist for me. So I thought that they didn't
20:58
really give a shit about anything.
21:00
No, she said. She doesn't care about like the
21:03
the devil worship aspect of it. They were just trying to like,
21:05
get people to come to the church because they're afraid of these
21:08
satanic killings. Yeah, OK.
21:11
Well, yeah, she doesn't. Believe in the thing that she
21:13
was creating fear for, but she just knew that it was like
21:16
getting more people to the church and specifically more
21:19
donations to the church. I got you that her father was
21:21
then using to get them rad pads as Bev put it.
21:26
Yeah, OK. Yeah, so I, I, I liked that.
21:31
And I, again, the whole ensemble cast, they just had such good
21:35
chemistry. Like I've, I know that party.
21:38
I've been at that party, you know.
21:39
Yeah, yeah, that's true. OK.
21:43
Are we on to bad? We are on to bad.
21:44
All right, so first of all, that twist I wrote in here, I don't
21:51
see it. I could see it from like the
21:54
beginning. Yeah, you know what I mean?
21:56
Like, I and that's the thing, like, did they mean for that to
21:59
be hidden? Because they play it as if it's
22:02
like a oh, but you all didn't get that.
22:05
But y'all didn't see that one coming, did you?
22:07
Like, no, it's like you kidding me?
22:10
Everything building up to it was so obvious.
22:12
Yeah. Even the way it was shot and
22:14
acted out, it was just like, OK, this is kind of underwhelming.
22:19
Yeah. So.
22:21
That, that was my problem with it too, is that I think it could
22:24
have been reworked a little bit to make it more ambiguous who
22:28
was actually behind the killings, because those elements
22:30
were there in the script. You know, like, because the
22:32
girls are interested in listening to the radio stuff,
22:34
but then we get to the boys who are like, arguing over how many
22:39
killings have been done. They plant the book in the van
22:42
like the satanic murder book or whatever, but like.
22:47
But Mark and Mark has a switchblade.
22:48
But then we, we as the audience are also seeing like, Alexis
22:52
getting on to Beverly for not, you know, seeming like she's up
22:56
for this. Yeah.
22:57
And I think that they wanted that to come across as like, oh,
23:00
she's like never like been with like in a relationship or some
23:03
shit like that before. And like, no, like it's so
23:05
obvious that this is building up to like a thing.
23:08
And I think it's because there's just there wasn't a lot of
23:12
detail about this in the interview that I was talking
23:15
about with Myers, but he kind of mentioned how the original
23:19
script was a little bit more wink, wink nudge, nudge.
23:22
And they tried to make it seem a little bit more based in reality
23:27
and less like 4th wall breaky. So I wonder if maybe this was
23:30
originally written out to be a little bit more like campy,
23:34
like, oh, is it them? Is it them?
23:36
You know what I mean? Like kind of playing with the
23:38
tropes of a horror movie. I.
23:39
Think if like you just go into and you acknowledge that we
23:45
already know it and you play on that, I think that would have
23:48
benefited this better. Yeah, you absolutely can watch
23:51
movies and you know that this person's a bad guy, but still,
23:53
watching them reveal themselves to their target is fun.
23:57
Do it in like, but you got to do it in a way that is unexpected.
24:01
Yeah, like the whenever they did this shit with the drinks, like,
24:05
oh, whatever. Like, I've seen that in like 5
24:07
million movies and that, you know, that's fine, but it was
24:10
just underwhelming in this situation.
24:12
Yeah, OK. So yeah, that I, I'm sorry, but
24:18
like I, I think some of the performances were really weak in
24:21
this. I think Alexandria Daddario over
24:24
acts a little bit too much in this.
24:26
I think this is out of her wheelhouse here.
24:28
I loved her acting in this because she went through, she
24:32
went through a lot of different like levels of mania she did and
24:38
it was fun to watch for me. I I think the director needed
24:42
this like take her aside and be like, hey, reel it in just a
24:45
tad. Like if they were doing the over
24:47
the top performance like the original script called for, then
24:51
sure. But this right here, this guy
24:53
definitely tried to play this straight.
24:55
I'm gonna say, though, I think some of this is just Alexandria
24:59
Daddario because reading that interview with her, there was a
25:04
lot, you know, the scene where she's outside talking to the cop
25:07
and she's trying to, like, play up the teenagers sensibility and
25:10
she's like, like, like, like, you know, that wasn't a lot of,
25:13
like, they just transcribed exactly what she said.
25:16
Oh, really? Yeah.
25:17
And it was a lot of that. I just she might not be a good
25:21
actor. I liked I'm gonna disagree with
25:24
you, and that's fine. That's what we're here for.
25:26
But I think she did a wonderful job.
25:29
OK. And I think the other girl, I
25:35
think they both, I think that I just think both of those
25:38
performances were too over the top for this.
25:44
I thought hers was fun because she's a very specific archetype
25:49
of person and I thought it was fun.
25:52
Again, I think this comes down to the movie.
25:55
The script was written differently than how it ended up
25:57
being shot. See, I think that they were on
26:00
the right track with this really.
26:02
Like I'm, I'm saying it's the performances, but in reality,
26:05
this is, this might be a directing criticism here where
26:08
the person needs to be like, hey, come on, like I need to get
26:12
this separate performance for this type of scene right here.
26:15
And like, I like the energy. But yeah, you know, like, let's
26:18
redirect it in like a better way.
26:21
OK. I don't know.
26:23
Maybe like another watch would give me like a better idea of
26:26
what I would want from that. But yeah, OK.
26:30
That's pretty much it from the bad though.
26:31
OK. Oh, and OK, nevermind.
26:34
Nah, Johnny Knox was just kind of weird.
26:37
He's not, he's not a great actor.
26:38
I'm sorry. He's not a great actor.
26:40
Like, he's great as a stuntman, but like.
26:44
This didn't seem like the role for him.
26:46
No it doesn't. I we had King of the Hill on
26:50
while we were asleep and I woke up and it was the episode with
26:53
the earth cleaners where he's picking up the poop with Bobby.
26:56
That was a good role for him. Yeah, yeah, He does that well, I
27:01
just think like, oh, really? It's like you're putting on your
27:04
serious face, Johnny, come on. Oh.
27:06
Serious. Come on, Jonah.
27:08
Yeah, it's just Yeah. Yeah.
27:13
OK, that's that's all I'll say for bad.
27:15
OK, I didn't realize you had more bad when I was jumping in
27:18
about the scope of stuff. That was my bad.
27:20
Oh, that was. Yeah, that was.
27:22
My bad. Was like, I, I think that they
27:24
needed to, if they weren't gonna do the wink, wink, nudge, nudge
27:29
play. If the humor part of it, the,
27:31
the understanding that the audience knows what we're
27:33
watching, then they needed to kind of temper those little
27:37
hints and make us feel more ambiguous about the two
27:41
different groups. So that way we actually are
27:43
wondering who is the bad guy here?
27:45
Yeah, but they, they just didn't really do that.
27:47
Like I said, for me the main twist was to find out that they
27:49
were like church ladies. Yeah, that that is A twist.
27:53
I mean, but even like, I don't care if I know it's the like the
27:56
women that are the bad people, like, just make it a fun ride.
28:01
That's all I need. OK.
28:03
All right. So ugly.
28:04
Yeah. Well, there's a couple of things
28:07
you could pick from here. I'll I'll choose the pastor.
28:10
Just doing mega church shit and just, you know, taking all of
28:15
these donations from people and just capitalizing on getting all
28:20
of that fear out there and making people scared so they
28:22
have to go to church and then they just profit off of it and
28:25
they get, yeah, fucking private jets and giant mansions and
28:28
shit. We saw his house.
28:29
Yeah. And some of it wasn't even like
28:31
cash money, although he had a lot of that.
28:33
Some of it was getting like the deeds to homes transferred to
28:37
him. That's so fucked up.
28:39
Yeah. So that's a big ugly.
28:41
Yeah, I'm gonna agree with that as the ugly because look, I know
28:48
religion has done a lot of good things for a lot of people.
28:50
It find it gives them like a place that they can feel safe
28:54
and find that comfort and sense of community.
28:56
But also, you do see shit like this, not just like the grifting
29:01
from, you know, people that think they're like, giving their
29:05
tithings to the church, but like, also abusing the people
29:11
who need that sense of community.
29:12
Because that was Beth's whole thing.
29:14
She was supposed to be one of the ones that was in the group
29:17
home for young women that he was supposedly taking all of those
29:21
donations for. But instead they're using her to
29:26
commit these murders and create this sense.
29:30
Like, hey, here's like an organization for us to get you
29:32
back on your feet and, you know, make the world OK for you.
29:35
Actually, we're gonna make you do some killings for us.
29:38
Yeah. It's such an abusive power.
29:40
Yeah. And it's just, it's not good.
29:42
Yeah, I'm not, Just to be clear, I'm totally cool with people
29:45
being religious too. It's just the people that take
29:47
advantage. Of the people, yeah, that's,
29:48
that's the main thing. So the and these are a very big
29:52
example of that. So absurd.
29:56
Man, excessive Twinkie sponsorship in this here.
30:01
It's like in every single frame of the movie.
30:04
I think it's because you're very new on your Twinkie journey.
30:09
No. Like you are very new on your
30:11
Twinkie journey. You had your first Twinkie look
30:13
a month ago. Well yes, that's true.
30:15
I'm not refuting that. I am saying in every shot of
30:19
this movie there is a box of Twinkies and they bring it up
30:23
verbally many times. Like this movie was brought to
30:25
you by Twinkies. For sure they were a sponsor.
30:28
There's no way they weren't. It's like we also see a lot of
30:31
other things that are PBR. Yeah, we see PBR.
30:34
They also mentioned Bush Light and we see 17 magazine a lot
30:41
too. I feel like you're defending it
30:44
like the Twinkies are like are like throughout the duration of
30:47
the entire movie like they keep mentioning it.
30:50
It's just so funny to me. I I'm not as bothered by it as
30:55
you are. You are very hung up on the
30:57
Twinkies. I'm not bothered by it, I think
30:59
it's funny. If I was bothered by it I would
31:02
put it in the ugly. Like these fucking bastards are
31:04
trying to get me to buy Twinkies.
31:06
How dare they. No that's fine.
31:09
I also thought it was hilarious. How?
31:13
Fuck what's the What's the dude from escape room's name?
31:16
Logan Miller. His character's name is Kovacs.
31:18
Kovacs I like he keeps getting the shit in of the stick in this
31:23
movie and he doesn't die. He just keeps like every time he
31:27
cuts away like, oh, he definitely died.
31:28
It would go like cut back to him.
31:29
He's like, Oh no, he's actually still alive.
31:32
But like he eventually does. But I, I just like how like he's
31:35
just like, he's so resilient in this movie.
31:38
Like you just keep expecting it, but it never happens until it
31:41
does. OK, my absurd is first of all,
31:49
how much Val Peas I love that I love.
31:52
I love a good character representation on screen.
31:55
I feel seen. Also Johnny Knoxville in my
31:59
horror movie. It's weird.
32:02
It's great. It's great.
32:05
Yeah. Those are my absurds.
32:08
OK, all right. So time to raid it.
32:09
Yeah, I think I'm gonna give this one a six.
32:13
OK, I'm gonna give it a 7 1/2. OK.
32:17
So we have a starting average of 6.75, yeah.
32:23
Yeah, all right. Not too bad.
32:25
Not too shabby, right? Ready to do that?
32:28
It's Indiana 1988. Travis missed this.
32:33
He was like, I knew we were in Indiana.
32:34
I didn't know that we were in the 80s.
32:36
And I was like, so you stopped reading after the word Indiana?
32:39
And he's like, joke's on you, I didn't read that part.
32:41
I was reading license plates. Yeah, I just saw the license.
32:43
Plates, yeah, but I was. Confused because it was later on
32:46
when she's talking about her first show and like wait 2020
32:49
and you were your first show was in the 80s so like and you
32:53
watched your virginity then like this is either a really dark
32:56
story or like. You aged amazingly, so they're
33:01
in the car. They're arguing about the
33:04
purposes of makeup in terms of evolution and attracting maids.
33:08
I I just got to attractionize like.
33:10
This is what they're attractionize.
33:11
Yeah, more or less. Val has to pee and Alexis is
33:14
like, no, we we're not stopping. We just stopped less than an
33:17
hour ago for you to pee. And then Bev's like, not to
33:19
alarm anybody, but we're almost out of Ding dongs.
33:22
I think she was kind of making that up to give Val a chance to
33:25
go pee. Like she was throwing her a
33:27
solid. So they stop at the gas station,
33:31
where Val is like wiggling her butt while she's filling up the
33:35
gas. Her performance in this entire
33:37
movie, it's just that like, I feel like every chance they get,
33:40
they're like are in strike a sexual.
33:41
Pose that's meant to be her character.
33:43
Her character's meant to be over sexual.
33:44
OK, yeah, the cashier's watching who I wrote as the Reverend
33:50
Knoxville condemning heavy metal.
33:53
And he tells the the trio to be safe.
33:57
Yeah. And then they're like, we'll be
33:59
safe. And they're like, OK, yeah.
34:02
I made a joke. I was like, we are the weirdos,
34:05
Mr. And you're like, did that give something away?
34:07
And I was like, no, I'm quoting the craft.
34:09
But it did. I mean, at the same time,
34:11
though, like, I already knew it right there.
34:13
I'm like, I mean, I know these people are gonna be bad, you
34:16
know? It's just so obvious.
34:18
As they drive on, they're listening to a news story on the
34:21
radio about three more being killed in satanic cult murders,
34:26
and the total is up to 18. And Pastor Butler is condemning
34:30
these murders. You.
34:33
Got to do that. You got to condemn the murders.
34:34
And that is like, I don't want to listen to this and changes
34:37
the music. And as they're driving, a
34:40
something hits their windshield. And it was a chocolate milkshake
34:43
that this van threw out behind them and almost made them swerve
34:46
off the road. It did look like shit.
34:49
I would have. Been, Yeah.
34:50
Worried at first because that's why they immediately thought too
34:52
like Oh my God they actually threw shit at.
34:54
But also like what was the point of it?
34:56
Like I don't know. And they just being.
34:58
Douchebags. Yeah, they were just being
35:00
douchebags. Because it was too full for it
35:02
to be like. That's a waste and these guys
35:05
aren't pulling in money. Come on, you just wasted some
35:08
money right there. Yeah, I don't think any one of
35:11
them has ever turned down a chocolate milkshake.
35:13
No, definitely maybe. Like maybe it was really bad.
35:17
Maybe. Either way they yeah it causes
35:20
them to pull over. And they have to clean it and
35:23
Val Peas again. So they arrive at the venue.
35:28
So I read that this parking lot scene was actually based off of
35:31
like there's a documentary of the parking lot like tailgate
35:38
pregame type thing before a heavy metal show.
35:40
I forget what it's called. I wish I'd written it down, but
35:43
this it was based off of, this whole scene is based off of that
35:45
documentary. Like a particular band, they do
35:48
this or just. In general, I can't remember.
35:52
I thought that you would maybe know like the general like.
35:55
No, that's that's all I have. OK for you.
35:58
Sorry. All right, So they're in the
36:00
parking lot and they're all just kind of pregaming, they're doing
36:03
their tailgating. I didn't realize that tailgating
36:05
was a thing for metal shows. This looks like one of those
36:09
ones that we would have went to in like, a town of like, maybe
36:13
1000 people where, you know, they do it in, like, the old
36:16
church or whatever. We've been in one of those
36:18
before. And I think it actually was a
36:19
metal show. But yeah, it's just a bunch of
36:21
people there. And then the van pulls up right
36:25
next to them, and they like another parking spot.
36:28
And they recognize that that was the van that toss the milkshake
36:30
at them. So they decide that they're
36:32
going to get even. And they throw in some
36:35
firecrackers, yeah, into the open window of the van.
36:38
And the guys are upset until they call them out for being the
36:41
ones that threw the milkshake and almost made them wreck.
36:43
And they're like. Oops.
36:45
Here, have a PBR as an apology. That's that's not a knife.
36:51
That's not equivalent. No, you just like maybe nuke
36:54
their entire fucking thing. OK, so it doesn't matter.
36:58
Everybody's cool. What?
36:59
I don't think they like it. Didn't seem like the van was
37:02
really hurt by the firecrackers. No movie magic, whatever.
37:08
It doesn't matter. They're they're having fun.
37:10
They don't give a shit. They end up like apologizing for
37:13
it and they say that they're gonna make it up, they're gonna
37:14
give them drinks. So they toss them some PBRS and
37:16
they started talking about metal shit, talking about their first
37:20
band experiences. They're just kind of exchanging
37:22
war stories, whatever. Like Jesse said before, Val is
37:26
actually getting really specific about it.
37:28
Everybody else is being vague. And then I like how Ivan's
37:32
revealed that his first show was actually who was it?
37:35
Again, Casey and the Sunshine Band.
37:37
Casey and the Sunshine Band, which the reason that Kovacs
37:43
knows about that is because their mom or his mom chaperoned
37:46
into it. Yeah, I that's a relatable thing
37:49
right there, too, because it's one of the things that, you
37:51
know, you want to have the cred. But I think that that's one of
37:54
the things, like, it's also endearing whenever you hear
37:57
about stuff like that, like, oh man, you know.
37:59
It also kind of like builds that history between them.
38:02
They're all in a band together, but Mark's getting ready to move
38:04
to LA to like, do music professionally.
38:08
It's like the little silent type off to the side over there.
38:11
So they're kind of caravanning following this tour for Soldiers
38:15
of Satan around. Yeah, they're, they kind of
38:18
liken it to dead heads. Is that what the yeah term is
38:23
for the Grateful Dead people? Yeah, but they hate the dead
38:28
heads because they're like, too hippie, I guess.
38:31
I don't know. So they go inside and they're
38:34
all having fun at the show together.
38:36
Kovacs's nose gets broken in the Vadnais.
38:40
This is why mosh pits suck. I hate mosh pits.
38:44
People are like, oh hell yeah, I got my nose broken.
38:48
March 11th 2020 I got hit really hard in the fucking nose in a
38:54
mosh pit. Yeah, exactly.
38:56
It's not worth it. I fucking hate them, but
38:58
whatever. Everybody's like, oh, a mosh
39:00
pits are like, they're so cool, Everybody's so nice.
39:03
Which it's fine. Like I've seen, I've witnessed
39:05
people save your shirt that one time it got trampled.
39:07
Yeah, but like at the same time people don't really care about
39:11
the surrounding people that don't want to participate.
39:13
They still like bash in the end. Shit.
39:16
OK, so the after the show, the guys kind of want to keep the
39:20
party going and they're like, let's go to a bar.
39:22
Well, there's not a bar nearby. Well, we could party in the van.
39:25
It's kind of sketchy. Bev especially is a little bit
39:28
nervous about all of this, but Val and Alexis end up convincing
39:31
her to invite them back to Alexis's dad's house.
39:35
And when they get there, they're parked kind of far away.
39:37
They don't drive up the whole driveway.
39:38
And Alexis is like, nobody needs to know we're here.
39:40
Sketchy. It's a really nice house.
39:43
It's a big mansion. Yeah, it's a huge place.
39:46
I like their commentary when they're pulling up.
39:49
I can't remember what he says. He's like, where are they
39:51
millionaires? I've completely missed that line
39:54
so I don't know what he said. OK, so inside they're all
39:59
chatting and drinking, then they move outside to do like a little
40:02
bonfire. This is where Bev is like
40:05
getting nervous as they're all like chatting and getting, you
40:08
know, more comfortable with each other.
40:10
She goes inside and she's like taking a minute and Alexis comes
40:13
in and kind of like pep talks her.
40:15
She's you know, cuz she's like, I've never done anything like
40:18
this. She's like, it's gonna be fine.
40:20
We're all gonna have a great night together, and we'll never
40:22
forget it. And as they're walking back
40:25
outside, Mark bumps into her and accidentally, like, spills,
40:28
drink all over her. And he gives her his jacket,
40:31
which is a good thing. He's so teeny tiny.
40:33
Because the jacket fits are really well.
40:35
Yeah, he's a really scrawny dude, Yeah.
40:37
Yeah, but as like she's putting on the jacket, the switchblade
40:41
comes out of the pocket and he's like, oh, sorry, that's my
40:44
brother's. And he, like, takes it back.
40:46
And, yeah, so Alexis is giving the guys some drinks, and Bev's
40:53
got some drinks for the women. And then she, like, kind of
40:59
pulls out to the side and she's like, hey, you know, he's got a
41:02
blade. And she's like, I'm not worried
41:04
about it. Yeah, so now I think this is
41:07
when they started playing Never have I ever.
41:09
Yep. So they started doing, you know,
41:12
the normal shenanigans with that right there.
41:15
And then it eventually gets. Well, there was, like, a really
41:19
nice moment because one was like, never have I ever been to
41:21
jail. And Bev drinks.
41:23
And Ivan's trying to get more information.
41:25
And Bev is, like, giving off all of the signals that she doesn't
41:27
want to, like, talk about it because she was arrested for
41:30
shoplifting. He's like, oh, what's your
41:31
shoplift? And she's, like, food.
41:33
And he's like, wait, what? And like, Mark was like, just
41:37
drop it. Yeah.
41:39
Like. And this is kind of the hint
41:41
that she, you know, had some trouble in her past.
41:45
Yeah, usually if you're shoplifting, I guess food's one
41:48
of the more forgiving shoplifting things because.
41:51
Jean Valjean. Oh, yeah, I guess.
41:53
But yeah, like, you know, people need food.
41:57
Yeah, and they recognize that, so it gets a little bit more
41:59
heated. Kovacs does.
42:03
Never have I ever decided to abandon my Bros and go be a
42:07
famous rock star in LA. And then this gets Mark a little
42:11
bit upset. He just kind of walks away and
42:13
everybody's like, dude, he's like, oh, too far.
42:15
Yeah, and then the guys all start like getting weird, 'cause
42:18
they're getting up and trying to like, comfort each other and
42:21
stuff, and they're starting to feel weird.
42:22
Mark falls over and then Alexa says, never have I ever drugged
42:27
anybody's drink. And Ivan and Kovacs are like,
42:31
that's fucked up. No, we've never done anything
42:33
like that. And then all of the women drink
42:36
and they're like, well, if you wanted to have sex with us, you
42:38
could have just said, so you didn't have to drug us.
42:41
And they're like, oh, that's not what this is about.
42:44
And then they all end up passing out as they're trying to walk
42:46
away. Yeah, they almost humiliate.
42:48
They were like, oh, you thought we were going to have sex with
42:50
you? Insult to injury.
42:53
So they wake up, they're tied to chairs in the house now.
42:57
Can I just say I'm really glad that there's no tidy whities
42:59
here? Yeah, which is kind of
43:01
surprising for the 80s. I think I'm, I don't know.
43:04
I wasn't around in the 80s so I can't say for sure, but I would
43:06
imagine. Yeah, according to movies and
43:08
TV, we we would be led to believe that there's a lot of
43:11
tidy whities. Yeah.
43:12
So yeah, they've got them all tied up, and I guess the first
43:17
target is Ivan. Yeah, So when they wake up, they
43:21
see all of the symbols that are painted around this, like
43:23
sunroom that they're in. And they they're like, oh, my
43:27
God, you guys are the Colt murderer.
43:29
And they're like, we can just leave.
43:30
We won't tell anybody about this.
43:32
And Alexis is like, that would be, you know, a swell plan if
43:35
somebody hadn't slashed all of the tires on your van.
43:39
Alexis says that she thinks like all of this stuff about the
43:43
colds and heavy metals retaining panic, all of it's a crock of
43:46
shit. They're members of a
43:48
congregation and different members have been taking turns
43:51
doing these different killings across the country to kind of
43:54
create this panic, get people to turn to the church, make their
43:57
donations, etcetera, etcetera. And this week, it's their turn.
44:00
Is that real though? Like I feel like they're the
44:02
ones that have been doing it. No.
44:04
It would be weird if it was like a whole organization that was
44:07
doing these across the nation. I do think that it was like
44:10
different members of the congregation.
44:12
Yes, I do think that was meant to be a real.
44:14
Part. So it's all members of this one
44:16
church that are doing this? Yeah.
44:19
Damn, they got a lot of people involved in this here.
44:21
It's a cult. It's not the cult that you know
44:24
the news thinks it is, but it is a cult.
44:27
I Yeah, OK. If they've all been brainwashed
44:32
into doing this, yeah, I'd say that's called like behavior.
44:34
OK, so they say that they like dress the part, act the part,
44:40
and then they, the news will like fill in the rest.
44:46
So even if these guys aren't like devil worshippers
44:50
themselves, the news is just going to see what they see at
44:53
this at the crime scene and how the guys were dressed.
44:55
And they're just going to like fill in those blanks.
44:58
They singled them out because it was like a metal, metal show,
45:00
metal heads, people like that. Yeah, I then goes on like this
45:05
tirade about like the hypocrisy of the church and especially
45:10
Henry Butler. And then Alex stabs him in the
45:13
throat and she's about to stab Mark.
45:16
But Bev was like, hey, hold on, can we go talk in the bathroom?
45:20
And she pulls her and Val in there and Kovacs and my Mark are
45:25
laughed. And Mark tells him to use the
45:28
spikes on his belt to cut the tape from the from their, which
45:34
I thought his switchblade was gonna end up being more
45:36
important for this. It never comes.
45:38
Up. No, Yeah, it never comes up
45:39
again. It feels like it should.
45:41
Yeah. In my experience though, I've
45:44
never had spiky accessories like that before.
45:47
Are the spikes actually that sharp to where they can cut
45:49
through something? Cut through your dock Cape now
45:53
unless it's like real fucking cheap duct tape.
45:55
Yeah, that would be like, really?
45:57
That'd be some really uncomfortable belts to have.
46:00
Right. Yeah, exactly like that.
46:02
That's not that's not realistic. OK Bev says she wants to do the
46:06
killing. She was like, you know, I was
46:08
playing the part. It was all part of my ACT to act
46:10
all nervous. But I want to do these killings.
46:12
Like I want to show you guys that I'm in it.
46:14
And Alexis agrees. And she's like, we need to set
46:16
it up as a murder suicide. So you need to slice the other
46:19
guys throat and then stab the drummer through the heart.
46:23
So they step out of the bathroom and see the guys running for the
46:26
door. They run after them, Alex
46:29
slashes out at them and gets Kovacs in the arm.
46:33
So they end up locking themselves in the pantry to try
46:36
and keep them out. I love this scene where Val was
46:40
like hold on get out of the way and she tries to jump at the
46:43
door and it's so ineffective it is so funny.
46:46
Yeah, I the beginning, like it made it seem like they were
46:51
professionals at this right here.
46:52
But then when it gets to this point right here, it kind of
46:55
comes across like, oh, they, I don't really know if they know
46:57
what they're doing. Yeah, it really shows that they
46:59
don't know what they're doing. And I think that's interesting,
47:02
an interesting way to like show this unfolding 'cause it's not
47:05
like they've done this a million times.
47:07
And that lends more credence to the idea that, like different
47:11
members of the congregation did those other murders and not them
47:13
'cause they would be a little bit better at this, presumably
47:16
by now. Yeah, you'd think.
47:19
So Alex sends Bev to the barn to find some tools to try and cut
47:23
the door down with, and inside the pantry, Mark is tying a
47:28
tourniquet around Kovacs his arm, but he's not doing a very
47:30
good job. It's so fucking loose.
47:32
There's no point to the tourniquet.
47:34
Yeah, this guy's, he's just going to bleed out.
47:36
This guy's doomed here. So now Alex has decided that
47:40
she's going to take some kind of can.
47:42
It looks like bug spray, like bug bombs and.
47:45
She's going to just spray them out, like gas them in the room
47:49
there and. It works for it seems like it's
47:51
going to work for a second. But what he does instead is he
47:54
finds a chair, wedges it under the door so they can't get in,
47:57
and then he finds rags and shoves it under the crack at the
48:00
door so that way the the poison doesn't come in anymore.
48:04
At this moment, Alexis says stepmoms or stepmom arrives and
48:08
she's like, why are you dressed like that?
48:10
Was that a bump on your head? And she goes, well, we were at a
48:12
costume party, and there were some really drunk guys, and they
48:15
accidentally hit me. And she goes, OK, well, you know
48:17
how you feel about those types of parties, and you should
48:19
probably be careful. And you definitely need to
48:21
change out of those clothes. And she goes, what are you doing
48:23
here anyway? I thought you were going to be
48:25
off on vacation. And she was like, well, I forgot
48:27
my passport. And she goes upstairs.
48:30
And what she's really going for is her a bottle of coke.
48:33
Yeah. She forgot her cocaine there.
48:36
Yeah, so she goes to do that. Meanwhile, Mark and Kovacs have
48:41
decided that they're gonna the guy wear some shit.
48:44
He takes some wine bottles and get some tape, and I don't know
48:48
what the plan is here. What exactly?
48:50
Kind of making some some weapons of some sort.
48:53
Ultimately what it is is they just break the bottles just to
48:55
get some sharp glass. I don't know what the tape is
48:58
for. I think so that was it was
48:59
easier to hold on to or so it didn't break in their hands.
49:03
Maybe, yeah. Yeah, and Kovacs also drinks the
49:06
soda because he's starting to get real cold.
49:07
And he's like, get the blood sugar something to keep you
49:10
going. Yeah, so they've popped the
49:13
bottle, which Kai's like a big pop, which the set mom hurts and
49:17
she wants to go investigate. Yeah, and Alexis is like pushing
49:22
her out and she goes, OK, well, when the cops get here, just
49:24
tell them it was all the fox alarm.
49:26
She goes, you called the cops, she goes, yeah, there was a van
49:28
outside and I saw the lights on. Of course I called the cops.
49:32
I also called your father from the car phone.
49:33
And she goes, you called daddy? And that like, kind of gets the
49:38
stepmom nervous. And she here, she decides that
49:40
she's going to look around some. And Alexis is trying her best to
49:43
push her out, but she ends up making it to the sunroom where
49:46
she finds Ivan's body. And so Alexis stabs her too.
49:51
And Val is like freaking out. But Alex is like, we have to
49:55
finish this before my dad gets here.
49:57
Like, this has to be done. Meanwhile, in the barn, Bev has
50:01
found a bunch of like, documentation about the murders
50:05
from like, the newspapers and stuff where it's been being
50:07
tracked. She also finds a transfer of the
50:11
title and some house deeds. And she finds a ton of care.
50:16
Yeah, I would have pocketed that shit.
50:18
Yeah, well, I think she did this implication at the end.
50:21
I would, yeah. I guess I hope she did, for her
50:23
sake. Yeah.
50:24
So and Alex and Val have decided that they're going to make a
50:27
little makeshift flamethrower, so they're just sliding the door
50:31
on fire. Yeah, they managed to actually
50:34
put it out with like a jacket or whatever, but I'm surprised that
50:38
they didn't just keep doing it cuz.
50:40
Like, yeah. Maybe she doesn't want to burn
50:42
her dad's house down. Well, the problem is at that
50:44
point the cops arrive. True.
50:46
Yeah, the. Cops get right, She goes out and
50:47
she talks to the sheriff and she was just like, word vomiting at
50:51
him, basically. And she was like, you know, and
50:53
my stepmom came in and she was surprised.
50:55
And we had my friend's van. And he goes, OK, can I talk to
50:58
your stepmom? She goes, no, she, she laid down
51:00
for a nap and she's just a nightmare to be woken up.
51:03
And he's like. But I thought you said she was
51:04
leaving on vacation. Well, yeah, I know.
51:06
But she's decided that she's going to leave tomorrow because
51:08
it's so late tonight. Yeah, he's asking all the right
51:10
questions and catching her and all the YS there, so he decides
51:14
he's going to go in and invest. Well, actually, no, she just
51:16
books it. She runs.
51:18
Yeah, because he's like, do you have any proof this is your
51:20
home? Like, do you have any proof
51:22
about anything you're saying? And I'm going to need you to
51:25
step up to the vehicle. And she runs for the front door.
51:28
And he follows and he enters the house and he's got his gun
51:32
drawn. And he sees Mark and Kovacs as
51:34
they're, like, trying to leave. They're asking for help.
51:36
They're like, hey, these girls tied us up.
51:39
They killed our friend. And he's like, oh, this is kind
51:42
of fucked up that the cop is like, oh, you guys got killed by
51:45
a bunch of girls. What, Like, dude, did he say
51:50
that? Yeah.
51:51
And he, like, starts to think that the guys are responsible
51:54
for this. So he, like, tells them to get
51:56
up against the wall and starts to cuff them.
51:57
But at that point, Val comes up, takes his gun and shoots him in
52:01
the head. This is so stupid though because
52:04
he saw her just book it when she was being super.
52:06
Suspicious and then when there are.
52:08
Two bloody dudes. They're like, oh, they're trying
52:09
to kill us. Nah dude, no way.
52:12
Like come on, that's some. He was so smart and then he got
52:15
like, dumb. There, as soon as he winded by
52:18
his own misogyny. It's so stupid.
52:19
Yeah, so Alexis and Val start arguing at this point because
52:25
Val has shot the sheriff, but not the deputy.
52:28
Not the deputy. And then the guys are back in
52:31
the pantry yet again. Bev appears with a weed eater
52:34
and she says she's going to free the free the guys and they're
52:37
all just going to get out of here.
52:39
And Val and Alex are like, hey, what are you doing?
52:41
This is part of the plan. We took you in when you had no
52:44
home, no family. Like we did everything for you.
52:47
And Bev is like, you are taking advantage of me just like your
52:50
dad has taken advantage of all of the church members.
52:55
Boom. At this point, the guys jump
52:57
out, Kovacs is stabbing at Bev, and Marcus is like, hold on,
53:01
she's on our side. She goes, I'm not on anybody's
53:03
side. I just want this to be over.
53:05
My favorite part from that is when they're having that
53:07
conversation and they can hear them through the door and
53:09
they're like, don't worry, I'm going to save you guys.
53:11
And he's like, fuck you like. I mean, I could see them
53:15
thinking that maybe it's a fake out.
53:17
Yeah, they've been doing it the entire time.
53:18
They were like they were saying show like that from the get go,
53:21
that try and wear them out like hey, we'll have a three-way with
53:23
you. Like what the fuck?
53:24
No. And then this is Kovacs is like
53:30
very clearly not doing well. Mark wants to go attack Val and
53:33
Alexis and Deb is like they have been brainwashed also.
53:38
Like she was like, I don't want to be in this.
53:40
She's like, I don't want anybody else to die.
53:41
Like I want us to just leave. He's like, OK, well, can we take
53:44
the Jeep? And she goes, Alexis has like
53:46
he's. Did you mention that they fought
53:48
over the gun for a minute? Now I missed all of that.
53:51
Yeah, because like they, Alex wanted the gun from Val, Val
53:54
didn't want to get the gun up. So they end up causing a fight
53:56
between them, and then Bev got the gun and now that they broke
54:01
out, Kovacs has the gun. Since he's kind of mostly
54:04
defenseless, he can't really move around.
54:06
They're just kind of prop him up in the corner.
54:07
Yeah, well, they try. So Mark is going to go get the
54:10
keys from Alex and he tells Bev to stay with Kovacs, but the
54:15
power goes out, so she's got to go fix it.
54:17
So that's when she props him into a corner and gives him the
54:19
gun so that way he can defend himself.
54:22
She is. She's about to go downstairs.
54:28
Meanwhile, Kovac sees lights outside of a car pulling up, so
54:31
he goes outside. It's the pastor, John Henry
54:36
Butler. And he doesn't recognize him at
54:37
1st. And he's just like saying, hey,
54:39
like, we were attacked. These things are happening.
54:41
And the John Henry Butler is getting all this information
54:46
from him about who's in there, what the situation is.
54:48
And he goes, OK, give me the gun, son.
54:50
And then he shoots him. Yep.
54:52
Yeah, should have known, man. Yeah.
54:54
And then he goes, I'm the wrath of God.
54:57
It got so weird. Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and
55:01
I'm the wrath of God. That's basically what it is this
55:03
year. So yeah, he goes inside.
55:05
Yeah, downstairs Val attacks Bev, but then Bev lights her
55:11
hair on fire and is able to get the lights back on, which is
55:15
helpful because upstairs Mark grabs the keys from the dresser
55:20
and Alex attacks, but when the lights come on, that helps him
55:23
be able to see her so they can fight.
55:25
Yeah, and they're fighting, and Johnny Knoxville's character,
55:29
the pastor, comes in and shoots Mark while he's on top of Alex.
55:32
Yeah, and then he berates Alex and she like, it was like, it's
55:36
not my fault. It was that runaway bell.
55:38
Like she went, she went rogue and she's not cooperating.
55:42
And he's, like you said, she was ready for this.
55:45
I'm just going to say they did a terrible job with her makeup and
55:49
this right here with the special effects with the blood because
55:51
it just looks like she has a huge handlebar mustache.
55:53
Yeah, she got that mustache going on.
55:55
Yeah. And he says, what we need to do
56:01
is get the heat off of the church.
56:05
And I chose you and I chose this house for a very specific
56:08
reason. And then he starts choking her
56:09
because he was like, nobody's going to suspect them if it's
56:12
his own daughter at his own house.
56:14
Like that throws the heat off of him.
56:16
Like, it looks like she was attacked.
56:17
And obviously that means that they can't be in on it.
56:20
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of flaws with that, but sure, you
56:25
got this, Pastor Johnny. Yeah, Pastor Johnny.
56:31
Then Bev comes in, hits him, which saves Alex, and she's like
56:34
starts crying to her and she goes, we're victims, we're
56:36
victims together. And Bev is not having it.
56:38
So they start fighting and Bev manages to push her out the
56:42
window. Oh yeah.
56:43
Yeah, She finds Mark and helps him up, and they leave together.
56:48
Kovacs has tried to crawl into the house, but he died.
56:53
Poor guy. He finally, Yeah, he just.
56:56
He finally did it. He was.
56:57
He's like a slug. He like he was not going to go
57:01
down without a fight, you know, respect.
57:04
So they drive off. Alexis is standing in the
57:07
driveway as they're pulling out. And we see Bev speed up and it
57:14
cuts to black. And then it cuts to a news
57:16
report where they're reporting another murder suicide, this
57:20
time at Pastor Butler's home. And he is on screen in his best
57:25
David Bird. Oh my God, Yeah, you're right.
57:28
He's got the giant suit on with the.
57:31
Giant David Byrne suit. Yeah, so like, his suit is
57:34
massive and it makes his head look tiny.
57:36
It's so funny. So they stop at a gas station
57:42
and Bev is getting first aid supplies for Mark because he's
57:45
not doing super great. It's the same store from before.
57:48
Yeah, the same quirk too. Yeah, who?
57:50
Looks like he hasn't moved. He is a fool.
57:53
Toy boy Roy lives at the store. Did not change to a huge.
57:56
State when it's not working. Yeah, he just, like shuts the
58:00
power's down there. He's like, all right.
58:04
And she goes back outside and she starts trying to patch them
58:07
up, and we see in the back seat she's got the suitcase with all
58:11
the documents and money from the barn.
58:12
Yep. And that's how it ends.
58:14
Yep, that's it. All right, we did it.
58:17
We did it. So how do you feel after talking
58:20
about it? It's a pretty fun movie.
58:22
Yeah, it has its flaws, but ultimately I had a good time
58:26
with it. OK, I'm gonna keep it at six.
58:29
OK, I'm gonna keep it at 7.5 cuz I think I agree with you.
58:34
I think it's fun. It's one of those you definitely
58:36
wanna not think about it too hard.
58:38
Yeah, it's sloppy, but I also think the people involved are
58:43
sloppy, so it works for me. Everybody's sloppy in this.
58:45
Yeah, it's sloppy on all levels here, but the characters are fun
58:49
enough and I like the tension. I like how it gets rolling once
58:54
they're at the house there. And yeah, yeah, it it plays out
58:58
in a fun way. I have fun.
59:00
I guess the the change I would have would be I guess just go
59:06
with the original script. I guess like the wink wink nudge
59:09
nudge miss of it all. I think it it would have
59:11
benefited this story better. Yeah.
59:14
Or if they were going to change the tone, they needed to do some
59:17
rewrites. Yeah, you can't take a script
59:20
with a tone and be like, but I'm gonna shoot it completely
59:24
differently. Yeah, that's and I think that's
59:26
really where a lot of those inconsistencies are coming with
59:29
this. I think so too, yeah.
59:30
It's just such a that's a weird decision.
59:32
You have to do rewrites if that's the case.
59:34
So you can't, you can't just like adapt something like that.
59:37
I mean, I guess you can, but like it might work in your
59:40
benefit, but in this case it doesn't.
59:42
Yeah, yeah. Tell you tell you this.
59:45
Well, she was. She was pretty sleepy throughout
59:49
a lot of this, but then she did start to get like pretty Tweechy
59:55
Tweechy. She had a weird night on.
59:58
Friday, yeah, she had a weird night, but she, she, she got.
1:00:02
Nervous near the end. She had a nervous day all day.
1:00:06
We had the tropical storm roll through up here so she had to
1:00:09
deal with that while we were at work.
1:00:10
That was a full hurricane. Full Hurricane Passover, US.
1:00:14
No, I'm saying we got the weather from a tropical storm is
1:00:18
a thing. It's it's a lower classification
1:00:20
of a hurricane. Like before, it's a hurricane,
1:00:22
it's a tropical. Storm.
1:00:23
Yeah, I think it downgraded to a tropical storm once it hit land
1:00:26
and moved up. That's what how I took it at
1:00:28
least. No, like we just got like the
1:00:30
weather like that came from it. OK, yeah, but you all know what
1:00:35
I'm talking about. Come on.
1:00:37
Anyway, she had to deal with bad weather all day.
1:00:40
She ate a notebook. Yeah.
1:00:42
She ate trash. I was sad.
1:00:44
I was upset with her and that made her sad because it was my
1:00:47
notebook, but she ate. So it's just it was it was a lot
1:00:52
going on. And then Johnny Knoxville like
1:00:54
shows up and he's a bad guy and she's not used to that.
1:00:58
So she, I think this is an effective maybe for Talia, there
1:01:01
were no dog deaths. So I think maybe she's going to
1:01:05
give this A7. OK, I could see that.
1:01:09
She wasn't in the best frame of mind for it though.
1:01:12
Zoe, who is Zoe's ultimate warrior?
1:01:15
That's a good question. There's a lot of good candidates
1:01:18
here. It's got to be between Val and
1:01:25
Johnny Knoxville. And I think Val, because Val is
1:01:28
always eating she's she eats a ton of Twinkies throughout this.
1:01:31
Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, she's really loud about it
1:01:35
too. Yeah, she's always really loud
1:01:37
about all of her functions. And she attacks people when they
1:01:39
try and turn on the lights. Yeah, true.
1:01:41
Yeah, Yeah. It's Val.
1:01:43
It's got to be Val. It's Val OK dream sequel.
1:01:46
I guess you would like have to go to another group performing
1:01:52
the murder, right? Like, you know, it's just kind
1:01:54
of like a, a whole other separate story.
1:01:57
Maybe you can have Mark and Bev involved again trying to blow
1:02:01
the whole thing up. Yeah.
1:02:04
Uncover the whole thing? Johnny Knoxville asked.
1:02:07
So like he sends a hit team out after the two of them?
1:02:10
Or maybe we see like a future generation of the church, like
1:02:13
Johnny Knoxville's protege is trying to come up with a
1:02:15
different type of scare tactic to get people involved.
1:02:19
Maybe we get like Y2K or something.
1:02:23
Do you want to have the characters, though, like Bev and
1:02:24
Mark? Maybe.
1:02:26
I don't know. I don't think that they're going
1:02:27
to like, let that shit slide, you know what I mean?
1:02:30
I think that they're going to be telling everybody about.
1:02:32
It no. I think Bev just wanted to get
1:02:34
away. I think she knows like that the
1:02:37
the congregation at this point is just a cult and I think she
1:02:40
doesn't want to try and fight it because that was her whole
1:02:42
thing. Leaving the house was like, I
1:02:44
just want this to be over. I'm not trying to be on
1:02:46
anybody's side here. OK, that's fair.
1:02:48
Yeah, but I think Mark, he lost his buddies.
1:02:51
I don't. Think he lost his buddies?
1:02:52
He's going to. Let them know like hey my
1:02:53
buddies got killed by these people at that house.
1:02:56
It probably has damaged his drumming career because he is
1:02:59
fucked up. He's in a metal band.
1:03:02
So they, some metal heads might be like, that's the shit that I
1:03:06
want. You know, some of them are
1:03:08
hardcore, just from some Wikipedia articles I've read.
1:03:13
Again, I'm not a metal head. I don't really know.
1:03:16
I'm looking from the outside then.
1:03:19
OK. Oh, is that?
1:03:21
It's just. Yeah, that's the general one.
1:03:23
OK, yeah, All right. Well then let's do tagline.
1:03:26
What? I'm just coming up with stupid
1:03:29
stuff. I know it's OK, stupid stuff
1:03:32
flies on here all the time. I.
1:03:34
Say shout out the devil. Shout out the devil.
1:03:38
But I think I'm blaming you for that because you made me watch a
1:03:41
lot of Mötley Crüe videos. Earlier.
1:03:43
That's all I'm thinking about. Too big old for you, man.
1:03:49
Everybody you need to look up Vince Neil doing his cameo.
1:03:54
Just if you want to know what we're talking about here, It's
1:03:56
it's legendary. Let's see.
1:04:04
They're going to rock your world.
1:04:06
They're kind of rock your world. That's cheesy enough to make it.
1:04:13
At least it's not like about praying or hell.
1:04:15
That's true. We're.
1:04:17
We're we're putting it more towards the music side.
1:04:19
Yeah, that's true. We're we're sticking in the
1:04:21
lane. We know.
1:04:22
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, this movie is very much
1:04:25
music related. But then again, it kind of cuts
1:04:27
that like halfway through too. Yeah, it's like 1/2 metal, 1/2,
1:04:34
like Satanic. Yeah, man.
1:04:38
And this is a weird one to do. I can see why they struggled for
1:04:41
this. Yeah.
1:04:43
God, what do you even do with this?
1:04:48
The Black Sabbath. The Black Sabbath?
1:04:54
God. I don't know man.
1:04:57
OK, then I guess we're going with They'll rock your world.
1:04:59
Yeah, that's fine. I, I, I'm, I'm drawing nothing
1:05:02
but blanks here. My.
1:05:03
Brain is my brain is on lame puns, right?
1:05:07
Now, yeah, fucking Molly Crue. Yeah, let's make that be the
1:05:11
second fucking Mötley Crüe. Fucking Mötley Crüe shot the
1:05:16
devil. Oh my God, they're a Mötley
1:05:19
Crüe. They're a Mötley Crüe.
1:05:22
There we go. There we go.
1:05:23
Hey, we've been sneeled our way into that.
1:05:25
Yeah, All right, you man. BIG4.
1:05:29
Oh, before oh, we shout the devil do some big O 4 O you man
1:05:39
God. OK, OK, Jesus Christ, let's move
1:05:42
on. What's next?
1:05:47
Reviews. Reviews.
1:05:48
OK. Yeah, yeah.
1:05:49
I pulled 2 cuz I wasn't sure how you were gonna feel about this.
1:05:52
That's kind of what we have to do with this.
1:05:54
Yeah, all month. So I will read the lesson to it
1:06:01
once since you rated it mostly positive.
1:06:03
OK, this is an IODB user review. It's a four out of 10 and it's
1:06:09
titled We Didn't Summon Good Writers.
1:06:13
The This movie's OK, you didn't summon good writers either.
1:06:17
This movie started off very promising and the early twist,
1:06:20
if you can call it that, was well executed.
1:06:22
However, my biggest crape with this movie and any movie that
1:06:24
does this is hooking you for 3/4 of the movie and they're just
1:06:26
becoming so badly written and directed and the final act that
1:06:29
infuriates you as you feel obligated to finish watching
1:06:31
what has now become a terrible audience insulting cliche fest
1:06:34
that was all a single sentence. Jesus Christ, why did you have
1:06:36
to read that so fast? Because it was all a single
1:06:38
sentence. Where do we start?
1:06:41
The police officer turning up and finding 2 dead bodies but
1:06:43
doesn't call for backup. The house plunge Into Darkness
1:06:45
to the point you cannot see any of the Sutter actors.
1:06:48
The hunt to find Alex, that she has car keys when there are two
1:06:50
other cars parked outside. Stepmoms and cop probably with
1:06:52
the keys in the ignition. The fact a knife is searched
1:06:54
before searching for Alex when there is a gun and off board
1:06:58
motor already in play as weapons.
1:06:59
The girl who caught on fire and then disappeared.
1:07:01
The ridiculous launch out of the upstairs window that looks like
1:07:04
she had been thrown by someone with superhuman strength.
1:07:08
OK, yes, we are meant to overlook certain things in
1:07:10
horror, but come on, this was on track to be a solid six or seven
1:07:13
for me until the disaster of a final act.
1:07:16
OK, it does kind of go weird in the final bit.
1:07:20
It kind of. It's an underwhelming ending,
1:07:23
I'll give them that. Yeah, it, I mean, yeah, there
1:07:27
are some flaws in logic there at the end.
1:07:29
But also like I was caught up in enough in what was happening
1:07:32
that that stuff wasn't occurring to me as it was happening.
1:07:35
And I think we've talked about this on the show before, that
1:07:37
it's really easy to sit from the comfort of your couch and be
1:07:39
like, why are they doing this? Yeah, no, like if I if I were to
1:07:43
change one thing from the ending, I would not have.
1:07:45
Alex, I've gotten up. Yeah.
1:07:47
Because like. Just let her be dead.
1:07:49
Just. Let her be dead.
1:07:50
And then it made her death more lame when they cut to black and
1:07:53
you don't see exactly what happened there.
1:07:56
That felt it didn't feel cheap seeing her fly through the
1:07:59
window. And then I like when they're
1:08:01
walking out and they're walking to the car and shit, she's right
1:08:04
there on the sidewalk. That was a good way to just
1:08:06
like, see her out. Yeah, I would have liked that,
1:08:09
yeah. Yeah, but I don't know if it's
1:08:13
the writing that did some of the weird shit in this man.
1:08:15
I think it was the directing honestly.
1:08:17
Yeah, yeah. And I mean, I, I don't think
1:08:21
necessarily like that it's a badly directed movie.
1:08:24
I think just tonally he wanted something different than what
1:08:26
the script was offering and didn't do enough to change it.
1:08:31
Yeah, he he like forced, yeah, this certain vision onto the
1:08:36
script that I don't think yeah, it called.
1:08:39
For it needed a little bit more finesse, which he's a fairly new
1:08:43
director in terms of like feature length films.
1:08:45
Yeah, he also did My Friend Dahmer.
1:08:48
Oh, OK. Yeah.
1:08:50
Interesting SO. Like I, I, I think he's newer to
1:08:53
like these more like bigger production type features.
1:09:00
Yeah, you look at this movie, you think indie movie?
1:09:03
No, this is Lionsgate. Yeah, this is like a full blown
1:09:05
company funded this shit. Yeah, so I just, I, I think it's
1:09:09
just, you know, one of those, like, I'm newer to the whole
1:09:12
thing. And he even talked about that a
1:09:14
lot in his interview, which I'm gonna try to remember to put the
1:09:16
links to all three of those interviews and then show notes
1:09:18
for everybody. Yeah, but he even talked about
1:09:20
like how a lot of the stuff he was doing with this was newer to
1:09:23
him, so. Yeah, I mean, he didn't do a bad
1:09:25
job. The movie is mostly a good
1:09:27
movie. It's just there's certain parts
1:09:29
of it that kind of just underwhelming, I guess, yeah.
1:09:33
And it honestly, it really makes sense once you learn that he,
1:09:36
like, was doing something different than what the script
1:09:39
was calling for. Yeah, yeah.
1:09:41
Yeah, when you said that, that put a lot of things into
1:09:44
perspective for me. I get it because his intention
1:09:46
was to show like how the fear mongering like is a thing that
1:09:50
happens in real life, like creating this manufacturer's
1:09:54
sense of panic. And I get that and that's really
1:09:56
great. But the script I think was
1:09:58
trying to also specific, typically play into horror fans
1:10:02
who know the tropes. Yeah, I think so.
1:10:05
Too, which is like a fun thing. But he wanted this to go beyond
1:10:07
being a horror film. And I think that's he was took
1:10:10
it too deep, yeah. Took it too deep than what it
1:10:12
was actually. It was very surface level.
1:10:14
Probably like just looking at it like it's surface level.
1:10:18
And then I think he was trying to go for something too.
1:10:20
Yeah. And I think if he'd just let it
1:10:22
be what it is, it would still start those types of
1:10:24
discussions, you know, and it, it would feel more organic.
1:10:27
Yeah, that's true. I mean, we're horror fans.
1:10:30
We're used to surface level. Yeah, we love that stuff.
1:10:33
Yeah, we're used to surface level shit, but also like seeing
1:10:35
what was intended underneath it, you know what I mean?
1:10:38
It doesn't have to feel like super deep for it to also have a
1:10:43
more grounded message. Yeah, true.
1:10:45
Yeah, yeah. OK, listener reviews.
1:10:48
Listener reviews. Yeah, I was surprised that so
1:10:51
many of you guys had seen this, so thank you guys for dropping
1:10:54
your reviews. Yeah, this was like a new
1:10:56
discovery for both of us this month, so.
1:10:58
Yeah. OK, so we'll start off on
1:11:01
Instagram. First we have Cubesaves who says
1:11:05
I wanted to like this one but just didn't.
1:11:08
OK. I can see that it like this is a
1:11:10
movie that like Jessie, she saw it as like this is a recipe for
1:11:14
my type of movie. Here it is.
1:11:16
This is a Jessie movie. It's a Jessie movie for sure.
1:11:18
And it ended up actually working in her favor.
1:11:21
But I could see this one falling short for some people.
1:11:24
For sure. Yeah, sometimes.
1:11:25
Sometimes Jessie movies are a let down.
1:11:27
Yeah, OK, this one I agree with. Attack of the killer objects.
1:11:32
OK. Who says it's no masterpiece,
1:11:34
but it's fun. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel
1:11:37
about it. Like I had a fun time with it.
1:11:41
Yeah, I think that that perfectly kind of captures my
1:11:44
feelings for you, too. Like, yeah, not the greatest
1:11:47
horror movie, but it's not one that I hated.
1:11:49
I regret watching. Yeah.
1:11:51
I had a fun. Time it's a.
1:11:51
Good way to spend some time. Yeah, exactly.
1:11:54
Like it's got a rewatch ability factor to it.
1:11:56
Yeah, OK. Over on Twitter, Chad says heavy
1:12:00
metal horror. That's an easy sell for me.
1:12:03
Overall, I really like this movie, but there was something I
1:12:05
can't quite put my finger on that would have made this movie
1:12:08
truly memorable. Fun flick though.
1:12:10
OK. Hopefully this kind of put that
1:12:12
into perspective one and shit that went on in the background
1:12:16
there where they changed some stuff that might be what you're
1:12:19
talking about. If hearing this discussion
1:12:21
triggered something in your head that you put your finger on why
1:12:25
it wasn't memorable, let us know.
1:12:26
Yeah, for sure it did for me. Absolutely.
1:12:30
All right. And finally we have Kevin or the
1:12:33
Kevin in the woods. That's.
1:12:34
A good one, yeah. I liked it.
1:12:37
While the twist is rather weak, everything else is pretty top
1:12:39
notch. Very enjoyable and Daddario
1:12:41
turns in a stellar performance. I agree about daddario.
1:12:44
I'm sorry, Kev. I disagree.
1:12:46
I think she she went too hard. I think she, I think she went
1:12:50
from what the script was wanting and I, the director was like,
1:12:54
no, not my movie. We never did a Who did you
1:12:56
relate to? Oh.
1:12:57
Fuck, we didn't, did we? No, I think there's a couple for
1:13:02
me. Whenever I looked at Kovacs, I
1:13:07
think I've worn that exact outfit.
1:13:09
Yeah, I think you have that in your closet right now.
1:13:12
You for sure have that flannel. I've got that flannel.
1:13:14
You've got the headband. I've got the headband, jeans,
1:13:18
easy T-shirt. You just need a banter or some
1:13:21
shit. I've got several of those.
1:13:22
Yeah, like. Travis has walked around town
1:13:24
dressed like that so. Like I can pull a picture and I
1:13:27
could probably do it side by side.
1:13:29
Yeah. So yeah, I related to him.
1:13:33
He tried a little bit too hard, but we've all been there.
1:13:37
I probably relate to vowel. I know.
1:13:40
I knew you were. Gonna say her.
1:13:41
Yeah, I have to pee a lot. I wear a lot of brightly colored
1:13:44
lipstick and sometimes I'm just a little bit too loud and
1:13:46
obnoxious. But it's part of my charm.
1:13:50
Maybe if you like me, It's part of my charm.
1:13:52
It's charming. Yeah, yeah, this movie does have
1:13:57
some, like truly relatable people for us here.
1:13:59
Like this is probably the most accurate.
1:14:01
I've like. Felt yeah, Kovacs was Travis
1:14:04
coded and that was Jesse coded. Absolutely.
1:14:07
Yeah. All right.
1:14:09
Cool. So I guess that does it for this
1:14:11
week's episode then. Yeah, I'm so next week is going
1:14:15
to be Phantasm. That's the movie I've got for
1:14:18
Jesse next week. I'm not going to read where to
1:14:21
watch it right now because it's the end of the month, but be
1:14:24
sure to check out our social media because I will post that
1:14:28
over the weekend on where it can be watched as of October.
1:14:31
Yeah, I don't think that this is a tough one to find.
1:14:33
Probably not, but you know, I don't want to give inaccurate
1:14:36
information because. Yeah, no, like changeovers.
1:14:40
Coming. Yeah, I encourage you that at
1:14:41
least you know. Because it's still September
1:14:43
while we're recording this. Yeah, you should be fine though,
1:14:46
I'm sure. I imagine so.
1:14:47
I hope so at least. It's a fun movie.
1:14:49
I'm excited for Jesse. I finally watched it.
1:14:51
Yeah, I've never seen it and there's gonna be a lot of
1:14:53
Phantasm people at Scarefest, so I'm excited to see this before
1:14:57
I'm just we go into that I'm. Just happy that you're gonna be
1:14:59
happy to see Reggie and something other than bloody,
1:15:02
bloody Bible camp. He needs a redemption right
1:15:07
here. That's still gonna be the one I
1:15:09
talked to him about. Oh God, is it really?
1:15:12
That's the movie? That's.
1:15:14
What we're talking about the same energy as when we mentioned
1:15:17
among friends to Daniel. Yeah, you go to him like, hey,
1:15:20
so like when's the body body Bible cap panel like?
1:15:23
What? Phantasm, you fucking fool.
1:15:27
Okay, Speaking of our social media, you can find us on
1:15:32
Instagram and threads, at least favorite scary movie podcast,
1:15:35
Twitter and Blue ski at least favepod find us on our website
1:15:37
which are least favorite scary movie.com and you can e-mail us
1:15:39
at least favorite scarymovie@gmail.com.
1:15:41
Yeah, and we also want to shout out our bubbies over on the
1:15:44
Patreon. We have Joe.
1:15:46
Frightotron. As is his name, Amber, Michael
1:15:49
Ward, Zombie, Tyler and Chad. Thank you guys so so much.
1:15:53
You guys are our favorite people.
1:15:55
You guys help keep the lights on on the show here.
1:15:58
You support us with all the stuff.
1:16:01
You guys are just you got our backs, man.
1:16:03
You guys are awesome. Yes.
1:16:05
If you aren't able to do Patreon, totally get it.
1:16:08
Yeah. There are many ways you can
1:16:09
support this show. You can do so by.
1:16:11
Yeah, by liking us on whatever platform you are listening on.
1:16:16
You know, rate US the five stars.
1:16:17
You can follow us. That also does some wonders for
1:16:20
us. And just share episodes if
1:16:22
you've got something out there that you think somebody might be
1:16:26
into, if somebody might be, you got a metalhead friend that you
1:16:29
think could like this movie, send it their way.
1:16:32
Yeah. Absolutely.
1:16:34
Yeah, they can watch that, and then they can also listen to us
1:16:36
talk about it. Yeah.
1:16:37
Be part of future discussions. Yay.
1:16:39
Yeah, send in reviews and show like that too, because I like
1:16:41
hearing from you guys, Yes. Absolutely, and thank you guys
1:16:43
to the people who do share those episodes.
1:16:46
It's really nice hearing people like talk about the points they
1:16:49
like hearing us talk about and then bringing up their own
1:16:52
stuff. Yeah, that's cool, man.
1:16:54
That's what I like about this. I like having like that open
1:16:57
dialogue and discussion with everybody about like these
1:16:59
movies. It's just we're all nerds.
1:17:02
I had a discussion on Twitter with Johnny about, you know,
1:17:06
the, the usage of voodoo in various media.
1:17:09
So that was, yeah, that was a fun conversation to kind of be
1:17:13
like, yeah, you never really think about it until you start
1:17:16
to think about it. And yeah, Jurassic Souls is
1:17:18
talking about the colorfulness. Of yeah, I'm.
1:17:20
Like fuck yeah dude, I forgot to even mention that.
1:17:22
Yeah, so there, there's a lot of good discussion happening and
1:17:25
it's just it's fun to be more nerds together.
1:17:28
That's the whole theme of this week is just being nerds about
1:17:31
things you're passionate about, and that's us and our little
1:17:36
community we've found online. So and thank you guys for being
1:17:39
a part of that community. Thank you, you nerds.
1:17:42
Nerds. Yeah.
1:17:44
OK. On that note, we'll see you next
1:17:46
week. See you all.
1:17:47
Bye bye ring.