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Domonique Foxworth on 76ers win over Knicks, Eagles mishandling Jalen Hurts injury, Jayden Daniels next steps | 10.21 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time presented by
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  Speaker 1: Prize Picks.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Beaumont Jones.
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  Speaker 1: I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is
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  Speaker 1: Foxworth Friday somewhere. Dominique Foxworth, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Chilling, brother. Happy to be here.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, man.
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  Speaker 2: How'd it go? Dominique did the playbook on Monday Night Football.
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  Speaker 3: I loved it, man. It was funny.
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  Speaker 4: It was, I did it a couple of times last
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  Speaker 4: year and I was terrible at it. And he didn't
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  Speaker 4: even tell us about it. Yeah. I mean, I did
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  Speaker 4: it a few times and I really wasn't comfortable with it.
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  Speaker 4: So I went back and studied the tape and got prepared.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought, honestly, like, Well, I was going to
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  Speaker 4: say I hate to pat myself on the back, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't hate to pat myself on the back. I
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  Speaker 4: tell you when the shit was shit, I tell you
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  Speaker 4: when the shit was fire. It was pretty good, man.
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  Speaker 4: I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, we got a lot of football to get to.
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  Speaker 1: But first, I have to ask you, NBA season started
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  Speaker 1: last night.
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  Speaker 2: Year 24 LeBron.
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  Speaker 1: They got LeBron in a year 24 patch that if
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  Speaker 1: I were him, I would decline.
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  Speaker 3: Do they? Yeah, that's he gave up on the hair.
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  Speaker 4: He came on home, which was a nice, which I
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  Speaker 4: guess maybe he started doing that towards the end of
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  Speaker 4: last year, but that with the combination of the year
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  Speaker 4: 24 patch, I guess, I mean, not, I guess it's
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  Speaker 4: definitely something you should be proud of.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You got to boast out there.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that's a lot of my content about
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  Speaker 4: LeBron is like how he's old enough to be like
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  Speaker 4: Edgecombe's daughter's grandfather and stuff like that. And like how
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  Speaker 4: his son is older than BJ Edgecombe. It's just all
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  Speaker 4: about how old LeBron is. But he looked good, to
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  Speaker 4: be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he looked good for the age that he is, right?
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  Speaker 1: And it is amazing that he could play at this
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  Speaker 1: level at age.
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  Speaker 2: 41 going on 42.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this about him coming home. Him coming
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  Speaker 1: home has shown why he didn't want to come home before.
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  Speaker 2: He a little quadrilateral with it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Like, it's just a little. He got a square head.
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  Speaker 1: It's not quite a strawberry head. I went to high
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  Speaker 1: school with a dude. He's called Head. And Head had
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  Speaker 1: a strawberry, right? Like, his thing went out. And then
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  Speaker 1: came back around. LeBron doesn't quite do that, but he
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  Speaker 1: does not. This was he has an unfortunate bad break
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  Speaker 1: on the hairline he got with the head that he has.
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  Speaker 4: I also wonder, like, how the come on home community
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  Speaker 4: feels about someone who was so resentful. Like, I get
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  Speaker 4: that you just, you fight your own hairline and you
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  Speaker 4: keep it for as long as you can. I'm at
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  Speaker 4: that stage. I'm keeping it for as long as I can.
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  Speaker 4: But eventually, I'm probably going to have to come on home.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine.
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  Speaker 4: But the fact that he just was like, nah, and
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  Speaker 4: now all of a sudden we're supposed to accept you?
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  Speaker 2: Nah, but you know what, man?
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  Speaker 1: Deep down, any of us who've been there and knew
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  Speaker 1: that our time was short and we was just going
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  Speaker 1: to hold on as long as we could. we can
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  Speaker 1: relate to it i wouldn't have come home as early
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  Speaker 1: as i came home but i had to come home
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  Speaker 1: because i'd moved to miami and the last thing i
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  Speaker 1: wanted to do was listen to people talk about sports
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  Speaker 1: at a barbershop i just i just had no interest
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  Speaker 1: in it and then my man moved to miami and
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  Speaker 1: he started going to i think it was a colombian
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  Speaker 1: barber of venezuela and i can't remember which man but
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  Speaker 1: uh they was just dropping a lot of N-words.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: That's tough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Miami, you all get into some real awkward situations
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  Speaker 1: with that in Miami. Like, I don't... As with everything
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  Speaker 1: else in Miami, there are no rules.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 3: New York, the rules are pretty set.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I've known since I was a kid that who's
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  Speaker 4: fine and who's not.
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  Speaker 3: And I.
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  Speaker 4: The Fat Joe thing that people got upset about, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, I thought we settled.
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  Speaker 3: This a long time ago. Yeah, man. Like, I know it's—
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  Speaker 3: I thought they was good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're not from up here, it seems kind
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  Speaker 1: of weird, but you have to understand, those aren't Mexicans. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They never tried to be. They also, like, fully embrace
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  Speaker 3: that they with us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, if you're Latinos, where you from, or Mexicans, nope, nope, nope.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have that kind of rapport. We're not cool
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  Speaker 1: like that. That's all it comes down to. Up here,
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  Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. The locals have decided that
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  Speaker 1: this is okay. And again, when you show up and
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  Speaker 1: you're not from here, it's weird, but it gets back
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  Speaker 1: to those four words.
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  Speaker 3: You're not from here.
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  Speaker 1: But I was like you. Every time it comes up
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  Speaker 1: with Fat Joe, I'm like, we did not argue about
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  Speaker 1: this at all in 1995.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't.
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  Speaker 3: This was fine. It was for all of them, too.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't just Fat Joe did get a special, like, pass.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, yeah. Paul was on it, too?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I trusted my New York brethren. That's... They said
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  Speaker 3: it was okay. It's okay.
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  Speaker 4: It's different in Miami. I don't have that. I guess because.
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  Speaker 3: Miami hip hop was a little later and it was
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  Speaker 3: focused on butts. I didn't have the same familiarity.
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  Speaker 1: But it's so interesting because Miami has a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the same people that it's allowed to slide with here.
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  Speaker 1: But in Miami, they got a different attitude about it.
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  Speaker 1: Solidarity is not safe. The notion of solidarity is not
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  Speaker 1: there as it is up here.
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  Speaker 3: I get the sense that it's about them, not us.
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  Speaker 4: I felt like the New York was like, we with them.
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  Speaker 3: The Miami one was like, we not with them. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, fine. We not mad, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: need this word. That's all I need.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you the motto of Miami for all
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  Speaker 1: the groups, no matter who we talking about is, we
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  Speaker 1: not with them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No matter who– what group it is that you're talking about.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We are with us.
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  Speaker 1: We are not with them. But I will say this
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  Speaker 1: for that game. And, look, we've seen this happen many
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  Speaker 1: times on ring night where a team might come out
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  Speaker 1: a little hot or maybe they get their doors blown off.
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  Speaker 1: Like San Antonio basically had a ring night and they
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  Speaker 1: got their doors blown off because Victor played terrible along
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  Speaker 1: with others. But the potential of the Sixers– Ooh, you
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  Speaker 1: saw it. You saw it there. The bright side with
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  Speaker 1: them and LeBron is what LeBron not going to do
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  Speaker 1: is try to force this. Like LeBron's not going to
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  Speaker 1: try to prove to you that he can still score
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  Speaker 1: 20 points a game. That being said, LeBron's going to
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  Speaker 1: put up the worst field goal percentage of his career.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's just like he's at that point of old
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  Speaker 1: where I just can't shoot like I used to.
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  Speaker 4: Right. He also was very clear when he couldn't shoot,
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  Speaker 4: he was going to get in the paint. And I
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  Speaker 4: didn't realize that Landry Shamit is not French. I always
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  Speaker 4: assumed he was French because I don't know, like it's
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  Speaker 4: the last name is like, I guess I should have
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  Speaker 4: accepted that they was calling him Shamit.
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  Speaker 3: Not shemay and i was like.
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  Speaker 4: Lebron took it down there and then so lebron kind
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  Speaker 4: of pushed him around scored on him and then gave
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  Speaker 4: landry a shove down the down the court like what
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  Speaker 4: he was supposed to give you one because you was
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  Speaker 4: being a little overzealous in the paint hey.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you we mentioned that about landry shabby
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  Speaker 1: you ever been to baracko yeah where'd you go baracko
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  Speaker 1: marrakesh okay.
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  Speaker 2: I I did a day of Marrakesh.
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  Speaker 1: We set up a Casablanca, checked out Tangier, checked out Rabat,
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  Speaker 1: did a few places in Morocco. Morocco, it's a few
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  Speaker 1: different models in Morocco when it comes to, like, faces.
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  Speaker 1: You got your DJ Khaled. You got your Colin Kaepernick.
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  Speaker 1: You got your Neil Brennan. You know, your French Montana.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I felt like there was a Landry Shabbat. I'm
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  Speaker 3: looking at you. I feel you. I feel you.
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  Speaker 4: But, I mean, the man went to high school in
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  Speaker 4: Kansas City, Missouri.
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  Speaker 1: No, but I was going to say, though, the Landry Shabbat,
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  Speaker 1: given the French part, that could ease, like, I could
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  Speaker 1: see the translation over. Now that you mention it, better
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  Speaker 1: you than me, Sham Pipple that played for the Spurs.
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  Speaker 3: I made him French, and he from Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's definitely on me because we was all
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  Speaker 4: pronouncing it Shamit.
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  Speaker 3: We never would have pronounced it Shamit if he was
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  Speaker 3: actually French.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we was calling that dude Shampitty, which is
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  Speaker 2: also not French. It was all on me. Also, I
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  Speaker 2: want to say this about Sham Pipple. I saw him
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  Speaker 2: last night.
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  Speaker 1: Sham Pipple has obviously, he needs to come home, but
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  Speaker 1: he's catching it dead in the middle.
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  Speaker 3: It's right there at the top of his head.
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  Speaker 2: It's happening.
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  Speaker 1: But he keeps growing it out in the sides, and
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  Speaker 1: they got more overhead shots than ever in basketball. And
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  Speaker 1: you can see what's going on here. He's got a crater.
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  Speaker 4: That's tough, too, because being that he's a basketball player,
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  Speaker 4: don't nobody see that. But being that you're a basketball player,
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  Speaker 4: everybody see that. So, like, day-to-day life, nobody ever notice it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's like Kevin Durant, who has been– it's been
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  Speaker 1: worse than we thought, actually. for quite a while and
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  Speaker 1: it's just because he's seven feet tall that we couldn't get.
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  Speaker 4: There and he also don't care which like honestly like
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  Speaker 4: i i kind of feel kevin durant i'm not at
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  Speaker 4: kevin durant level but when i see how ashy his
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  Speaker 4: legs i'm like i'd be like that often and i
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  Speaker 4: don't tell nobody.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing about his don't care that is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Because we grew up with Rasheed Wallace as the don't
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  Speaker 1: care guy.
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  Speaker 2: The dude that they called in Philly, Dirty Rosh. My
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  Speaker 2: roommate was from Philly.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize when I got to college that everybody
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  Speaker 1: from Philly knew each other in so formal fashion. So, like,
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  Speaker 1: the idea, like, Rasheed Wallace would do it on television
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  Speaker 1: to me. To him, he's Dirty Rosh.
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  Speaker 3: Like, that's just what they called him.
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  Speaker 1: But there was always something, like, kind of charming and
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  Speaker 1: quirky about about Rasheed Wallace's didn't care.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody went longer between haircuts and all that stuff. He
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  Speaker 2: doesn't seem to do that now. But all of those things,
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  Speaker 2: nobody did it.
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  Speaker 1: Durant, it just feels much more like negligence rather than
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  Speaker 1: a personality trait.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point. I think you're right. It's that.
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  Speaker 4: Rasheed Wallace knew that he was supposed to care, but
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  Speaker 4: didn't care.
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  Speaker 3: It feel like Durant is like, huh? What y'all even
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  Speaker 3: talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Durant, it doesn't match your game.
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  Speaker 1: Your game implies crisp line up and all of these
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  Speaker 1: other things.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Attention to detail.
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  Speaker 1: It is. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: There are no mistakes in this game.
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  Speaker 3: There's no nothing. No oversights.
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  Speaker 2: Too busy hooping. Too busy hooping. But I know I did.
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  Speaker 2: Sixers look good.
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  Speaker 1: The Knicks fans are telling me they don't care if
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks aren't good this year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes in actual application. And shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Tyrese Maxey. I do not like teams with
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  Speaker 1: small guards. That small guard is cold. And they don't
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  Speaker 1: even need that much out of Embiid. And I ain't
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  Speaker 1: even talking about Oc. Young Oc in his first game
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  Speaker 1: with the Sixers, he did what needed to be done. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Biting my style.
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  Speaker 3: You heard about that, right? What'd he do?
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  Speaker 2: The harp?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 3: You got a harp?
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  Speaker 2: No, you know, I've been talking about the harp for
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  Speaker 2: the longest.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Oh, man, you might have showed up. You showed
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  Speaker 1: up a little late. You ain't know about the harp.
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  Speaker 3: I must be.
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  Speaker 2: Did you ever notice the old Right Time logo had
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  Speaker 2: a harp in it?
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  Speaker 3: I did notice that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, because I've been scheming on a harp since 2013.
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  Speaker 1: I've been talking about having somebody come in and play
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  Speaker 1: the harp in the whole night. And honestly, I don't
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  Speaker 1: mind that he got it first. I mind that anybody
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  Speaker 1: might think that when I get my harp that I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to get like him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm too old for that.
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  Speaker 4: What's been holding you up from getting a harp? I
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  Speaker 4: assume that they're not cheap, but you don't have the room.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have really the proper layout in the places
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  Speaker 1: that I had for the harp. And I felt like,
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  Speaker 1: and this is where I need to get my weight up,
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  Speaker 1: that if I needed the harp, I needed to be
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  Speaker 1: able to at least occasionally play somebody to come play
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  Speaker 1: the harp. And I could probably afford it here and there,
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  Speaker 1: but my sensibilities ain't quite in that space. But now I'm...
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  Speaker 1: I'm hating, and I'm going to just stop talking about
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get my face right for serious topics.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to, oh, and then you bring
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  Speaker 1: it back.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: I feel you.
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  Speaker 1: You and I have, we've been group chatting about the
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts situation.
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  Speaker 3: I am in the.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know what happened here, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: seem like he is agent and the team have beef.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm kind of inclined to believe what the team
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  Speaker 1: tells us. However, I am also inclined to believe that
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  Speaker 1: the team don't feel good about what they did because
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  Speaker 1: they sent mumbles out there to try to explain. They
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: said Nick Seriani out there by himself to explain something
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  Speaker 1: we know he's not qualified to explain. And we know
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  Speaker 1: that because he can't explain the offense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Hurts stuff, to me, it's somewhat irrelevant whether
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  Speaker 4: him and his agent are fine with the Eagles or not.
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  Speaker 4: Like to me, there still has to be some sort
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  Speaker 4: of investigation done. You have to find out to make
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  Speaker 4: sure exactly what went wrong because like how things turned
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: out was bad. It was it wasn't terrible. It could
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  Speaker 4: have been catastrophic. It was really bad and embarrassing. Fortunately,
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  Speaker 4: there was nothing like terrible so we can move on
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  Speaker 4: and forget about it. But like the union, I think
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  Speaker 4: is going to get involved and make sure that they
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  Speaker 4: do everything. a real investigation and figure out where the
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  Speaker 4: ball was dropped especially if we're going to continue to
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  Speaker 4: do these international games which obviously we're going to continue
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  Speaker 4: to do these international games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah i don't i think i have like this broad
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  Speaker 1: understanding of Blood clots, basically. I think all of us
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  Speaker 1: know somebody at some point that's had some blood clot
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  Speaker 1: and there's been a discussion about how to deal with
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  Speaker 1: airplanes and everything.
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  Speaker 2: Else that goes around it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's kind of like I have to acknowledge just
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  Speaker 1: because somebody hit their head in a football game doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean they had a concussion. I don't actually know that
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  Speaker 1: much about these things. And I don't feel like I've
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  Speaker 1: seen anybody properly explain to me. So the way this went, apparently,
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  Speaker 1: is that Hurts got kicked in the leg in a game.
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  Speaker 1: and he had what they call a superficial blood clot.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you could see it, right? Like one of
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  Speaker 1: those you could see at the top or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: They were dealing with that or trying to test and
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  Speaker 1: figure out if he could play, and that was where
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  Speaker 1: the he stayed up all night story came from. And
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like he didn't stay up all night, but
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  Speaker 1: it sounded like he was up all night, if that
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  Speaker 1: makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So they tried to figure this out. They determined
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  Speaker 2: that he was able to play.
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  Speaker 1: And then to me, the real question is, then they
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: determined that it was OK to put him on a
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: plane to bring him back home, which all of us
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: thought was something that you were not like was supposed
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: to be off the board. Maybe I don't know as
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: much about this stuff as I thought I did, because
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't cost you anything to not put him on
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: a plane in that moment.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if it was appropriate for him
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: to play.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: There's that part.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: But the plane is the one where we.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: All are like, hey, man, are you sure this is
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: what you want to do?
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: They put him on the plane. He got back.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: And then a couple of days later, they found blood
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: clots in his lungs. And now we are where we are.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: And I think the fact that we don't understand is
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: why there needs to be an investigation. But what I
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: do think is also worth discussing as a media thing
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: when we talk about it. Our acknowledgement that we don't
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: exactly know what's going on here either, and I feel
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: like it got dropped onto the outrage machine.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Where everybody knows more than everybody else about all the things.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: So now it's in the outrage machine, and that's the
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: only room for discussion. The Eagles blew this, but I'm
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: not sure that it's as nefarious as I think it's
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: being assumed to have been.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: a lot of us and I'm included in this, my
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: knee jerk reaction when there's like an health issue with
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: the player is that the team did something wrong. Like
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: that's my like immediate knee jerk reaction. I take some
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: time to think about the process and then like prepare
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: the right things that actually say on TV, but they
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: have a history. Like, several individual teams in the league
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: as a whole has a history of not being completely
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: forthright with medical information and not necessarily caring about the
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: player's safety as much as they care about other things.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: So, like, I don't think that's unfair.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: I think it's irresponsible, though, to then jump to the
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: conclusion that you know they did something wrong because that's
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: a whole different thing. So I think that's why this
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: all comes up. And the introduction to blood clots for
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: me was Tommy Frazier in college. I remember that was
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: the first time I realized that blood clots were dangerous
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: because before that, all I heard was your blood clots
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: keep you from bleeding out.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: It's healthy. You scab over and you're fine. They said
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: blood clots.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: They help you.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: It was like Tommy Frazier not playing in the Sugar
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Bowl or whatever it was.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: It was like blood clots. I was like... He ain't
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: playing for blood clots.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: And so I think part of this is it's such
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: a rare situation in sports is like, and they were
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: overseas probably had something to do with it is like,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: it seems like you need different experts. Yeah.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: They said they were going to, they said, The way
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the Eagles have reported it, it sounds like they did
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: what was reasonable for them to do. Now, the other
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: thing with blood clots, and this is for me, I
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: don't fully understand everything about playing with the blood clots themselves.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Flying with the blood clots, I understand. That's not what
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: you want.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: But playing, I was always under the impression the issue
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: of playing with blood clots was the issue of playing
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: on blood thinners. And that once you start taking blood thinners,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: you got to be off them for like three months
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: before you could play. It was not even so much this.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: And I also wonder, like, I look at myself in this, like,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: am I being naive? Is this one of those things
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: that requires, like, it's something that comes up a lot
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: when I talk to one friend of mine in particular,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: but especially when I talk to lawyers about like Trump
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: and stuff around.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Him, that there's a level of dastardliness there.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Is it dastard? Is dastard the noun?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? But there's a level of
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: dastard that they just can't get themselves to assume. Like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: they believe in the rule of law to a point
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: where they're like, wait a minute, you can't do that.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: It's the law.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And it's like, hey, man, I don't know if you've
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: been paying attention, but this don't land with them. I
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: struggle to believe that they would put the dude on
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the plane if there was a thought that That he
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: could die from being on the plane. That being said,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I did Andrew Marchand's podcast the other day. And the
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: point that I put there, something I always say to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: my agent reminds me all the time when people do
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: things around work that I don't like is do not
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: assume malice when incompetence might be the answer. And if
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the answer is incompetence and not malice, that is perhaps
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: morally superior, but functionally the same thing. Exactly.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: And I think you're probably right.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's why we keep coming back to the
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: same thing is we have to find out exactly what
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: happened at every step of the way, because like.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: The result was terrible. The result was terrible. You put
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: a player's life at risk.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: A star player at a marquee franchise at that, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: know it shouldn't matter, but it does because guys have died.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I played in a preseason game where a guy died.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: You remember the Kansas City Chiefs situation where, was it
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: i'm embarrassing myself but this is the same point like
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: was it butler or yeah there was a guy who
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: came back like things happen yeah that are really terrible
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: uh and we move on from it you don't quite
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: forget the big things that happen to the big players
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: and they put them in a terrible situation like there's
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: no way around this was a terrible result and to
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: your point it could just be Stupid it could be missed.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: They didn't have all the information either way. They need
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: to figure out how they're never in this situation No
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: teams ever in a situation again Where they're putting a
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: guy's life at risk for no reason not that it
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: would be better if it was like He was playing
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: in a Super Bowl. You had to go out there
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: that wouldn't make it better But this one like they
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: don't even gain anything from like from this they could
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: have put his ass on a boat they don't care.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Right like I meant and I mentioned this earlier briefly
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: but the greatest argument that the Eagles were incompetent on
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: this is them sending Sirianni out there by himself Like that,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: that did a disservice to literally every person involved in this.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And this is an organization that I feel like we
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: think of as being one that's well run, or at
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: the very least.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: They good at getting players.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Like you, you would think given this circumstance that this
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: is the, the chain of circumstances or the plan for
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: what we're going to do here. It doesn't seem very
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: complex to me. Hey, Jalen, um, We can't talk about
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: what's happening with you without your permission. So would you
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: grant us this and we will send our team doctor,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: our trainer, whoever it is, medical person who knows how
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: to talk about this stuff because we got to explain
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: this to everybody. Are you cool with that, right? And
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: if you can't send a trainer out there, okay, fine.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Howie got to be out there. If Howie or Jeff
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Lurie or one of those dudes has to be the
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: one that's out there, but what you can't have is
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: this motherfucker that ain't shaved in three days just sitting
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: there trying to figure out how to not answer no questions.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: With that press corps, by the way. Now, you might
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: have been able to get away with that in Green
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Bay or somewhere else.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And now, I haven't seen this part. Again, we talk
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: about this all the time on this show.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: A team with the largest ecosystem of former players talking
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: about them. And they ain't been a team yet that's like,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I can't, I mean, a player yet. I can't wait
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to tell you how wonderful the medical team was when
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I played at blank. You just walking yourself into all
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: kinds of disaster when it's obvious.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: You're in crisis. You know why you should know you're
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: in crisis?
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Because your quarterback's career might be over.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Sign number one. I don't add to your point. I
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: don't get the point.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I don't get the reason for sending out the head coach.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I don't understand how you still don't realize. So like the,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: the mistakes were made to get you in this situation.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: How do you not recognize that this is a real situation?
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: This ain't an on the field situation. This is an
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: above like ownership situation. situation i i think you have
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: to come out with the owner and like medical professionals
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: and maybe jalen also if he's willing to do it
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: and like this and explain what actually happened having the
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: coach talk about it to me seems like uh another
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: unforced error and and somewhat disrespectful.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Not just any coach yeah that coach.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah that one that's.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Look, I feel like this happened with the Lions. I
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: think we can send Dan Campbell out there. At the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: very least, Dan Campbell going to hit the vibes and going.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: To be strong.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: We're going to come out of that feeling like, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: think Jalen's going to beat this.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: If nothing else, we're.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Going to come out there, hashtag hurt strong, hashtag hurt
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: so good.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: We're going to be all the way, whatever it takes.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: We're going to be out there.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Dan's going to have the boys ready to run through
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: a goddamn wall on Sunday in the name of Jalen Hurts.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: You know that.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I just came away from that being like, no wonder
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: y'all don't be winning.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: They have defied logic with the amount of success that
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: they've had in the recent years, considering all the variables
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: that are involved. And I'm willing to accept that this
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: is a different organization that will that Howie is more
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: in charge. Like the general manager is very, it's kind
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: of baseball-y in that way that the general manager is
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: more controlled than the head coach in some of these situations,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: but it's a very loud and aggressive head coach, but
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: they've been like consistently competitive to the point now where
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: people are kind of surprised. And we offered them some
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: like benefit, benefit of the doubt that it's clear that
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: they didn't necessarily deserve as far as the team is concerned.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: And then you get to this stuff. Like, I'm not
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: surprised that this is handled poorly because football teams are
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: prepared for a lot of things, but they aren't really
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: prepared for this, which... It's kind of embarrassing considering it
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: happens in this sport probably more than any other sport
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: where you have to have a real conversation about some
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: real shit.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Well, no, because they don't be having a conversation. They
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: just keep it moving, right? That's true.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Like you tell the story about when they airlifted that
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: dude off the field when you was in college, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: then you just move over to another field.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Or that time.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: We thought somebody died, and once they got him out
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: of there with an ambulance that was not driving fast
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and did not have lights on, and the boys just
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: started warming up.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Getting ready to go back. There's nothing in the.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Manual for this.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It's just wild considering how likely one would think it is.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: But one.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Once them games hit on Sunday, boy, we forgive you.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: We back. You give us that crack.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yay, man.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Right back.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe we just out here making omelets, man. You know
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like, that's all it comes down to, man.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: We making omelets.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Delicious omelets.
• 24:49
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• 27:00
  Speaker 1: keep trying to make the rest of the world watch
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: football play. I can't think of much less French than
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Oh, I forgot. Not only did we send
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the NFL to France this Sunday, we sent the Saints.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: It is the Saints and the Steelers, which means a
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: gang of New Orleansians.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I believe that's how you say it, a.k.a.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: WOTUS. They are going to be in their quasi-ancestral homeland.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: And I think for the first time in their lives,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: they will go somewhere that feels familiar. Because New Orleans
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: is nothing like anything else in the United.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: States of America. And then the first time I went
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: to Paris, I was like, oh.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: It was like that meme of Yachty and Drake where
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: they point at the computer and they'd be like, oh.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: That's how I felt when I got there.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, New Orleans.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: This explains why you're like this.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I get why we decided to send them over there.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: And I know that new Orleans has like some, like
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: they claim France.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Does France claim new Orleans in any way?
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Like, do, are they excited about the saints coming?
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Well, They got other things going on.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: But generally, do they care that New Orleans is coming
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: to France?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Do French people go to vacation in New Orleans because
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: they feel like they just got to?
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Or at least think about New Orleans as Paris in America,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: in the same way that New Orleans thinks of themselves
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: as somewhat tied to France.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: That's a great question.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I wonder what the French feel like about that. Because
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: as I've learned in my travels to different places, have
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: different places that they think of as, like, the place
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to go. So, like, for example, I was told that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: for Hawaiians, Vegas, like, Vegas is the thing that's nothing
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: like them. So they, like, they love to go to
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas. For whatever reason, I learned in Athens that they, like,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: really have fantasies about Cuba or, like, Latin America. Like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the idea of, like, you got to, I hope one
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: day I can go to Latin America.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I wonder what that, I mean, it was an old
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: movie or something? Oh, okay, never mind. Never mind.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: If I had to guess, I know a lot of
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: cats that fantasize about Latin America.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you why.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But there's something, I forget, the tour guide gave me
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: some explanation about something that happened culturally or whatever, but like,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that's their place. I don't know what it is for
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the French. I don't know how they would feel like
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: if they showed up to New Orleans, they would see,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: it's like this, but not quite like this.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: But, For those of you who don't watch the news.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It's wild in their streets over there they protesting strong
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: whoever told us as Americans that the French were a
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: bunch of cowards nah they be ready to take it
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: to the streets and these kids like students out there
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: like school ain't good enough taking that shit to the streets.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: No, I shouldn't make that.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't. I shouldn't.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I don't think I should say that. Yeah, I don't know.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: If you were that hesitant, I know that is a no-go.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: The reason I was thinking it was I just seen
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a link with Nicole Hannah-Jones talking to whoever the school
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: band is for the city about you going to do
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: something about this segregation, this, that, and the third.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: We're over there in France. Nicole Hannah-Jones' daughter and all her.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Friends would have been in the streets ready to make
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: it happen.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: France is different. They don't play.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like every couple of years they in
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: the streets for something. And to your point, like that
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: movie V for Vendetta, like that feels to me like
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: a very French movie where it's like, oh, we're in
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: the streets.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: We're mask on. What are you raising the prices on? What?
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: One more tax? We're in the streets. We're mask on.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: We're going to have them colorful smoke grenades. It's going
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: to be, it's going to be something. It's not tear gas.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: That's just us smoking this shit out.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Hey, you ever been to Versailles? Nah.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I went to Versailles this summer. And I got up
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: in there and I was like, yep, some of y'all
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: had to die.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: It took forever.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: A couple of minutes inside there to be like, yeah, some.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Of y'all had to die. This is absurd. This is preposterous.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: They would not stand for what we stand for.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: They would not stand for it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, in the Olympics, where they had
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: that part during the opening ceremonies, where they had the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: headless Marie Antoinettes, and that was them making sure, they
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: make sure the people in charge understand, we have done
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: it before.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: And we will do it again. Bruce Bowen. We had
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Bruce Bowen all here once.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: And Bruce Bowen played in France when he first hit
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the pros.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: He played in L'Eau, France. And he said that day one,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: they was in the streets.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: The first day he got there, they was in the
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: streets about something.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And now the NFL. You think they're going to show
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: any camera shots of them folks in the streets?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: You think they're going to bring the ruckus to the stadium?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Because I think I thought Boomer Esiason made that point.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: He's right.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: If I was with the cause, they brought hands up,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: don't shoot to the dome in St. Louis.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: To the inside of it. I.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I don't see why they wouldn't.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, they may not be allowed to, but
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: I think, again, you're more exposed to French culture than
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: I am, but I don't get the sense that they
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: police be regulating as aggressively as I police regulate because
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: they not letting them nowhere near.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: The Super Bowl.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: So that's on American soil. I don't know what they're
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: going to do over there in France. I don't know
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: if we just come over there and act like.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: It's our soil or what. But here's the thing, though.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: This ain't the Super Bowl. Right. This is just an event. Yeah,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: but I mean, it's a big event. I feel like.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a big event.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I hear you.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: But again, it's just not the Super Bowl. That's true.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: No, but the NFL Network, they're going to be showing
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: footage from the summer. They might show footage from the Olympics.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: They're going to be showing people eating crepes.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? They're going to be showing
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: them folks outside. They ain't even going to show them
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: smoking those cigarettes.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: They're going to be out there drinking their coffee, all
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: that stuff outside.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: They ain't nothing happening. They're going to show the Eiffel
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Tower 10 times. But that'd be so dope if they
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: cut the commercial break instead of the Eiffel Tower. It's
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: just them people with them black masks going, getting ruckus.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: What if they play that music going into commercial? Like,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: this is live international series from France. They just out
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: there chanting some shit in French.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Right. How many times y'all going to show us the
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Mona Lisa?
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Right? Like, imagine your job, your job at the NFL
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Network is to get there a couple days early, go
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: get us some drone shots.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Go get us some stuff that we can throw in
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: the package. Nah, nah, nah.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: That's a pretty good job, actually.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I get to go there early, and all I got
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: to do is record the Eiffel Tower and get out
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: of here, get some pictures of that Walda.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And, and, and, hey, man, you walk around with a camera,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: you can turn that into all kinds of things.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: That's what I hear.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Well, this is going to be a little dark.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: But I was reading a book, Edna Buchanan, she worked
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: for the Miami Herald for many years, but she wrote
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of crime books, and she wrote a kind
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: of memoir of sorts of her time in Miami, and
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: she was talking about some dude, and it's dark because
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: he turned out to be a serial killer, but she
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: made the point about him that he used to do
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff to get women. I can't remember
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: if it was scams or exactly what, but anyway. He
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: gave up all those other things that he was trying
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to do because he figured out nothing worked better than
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a camera. He just had to pull up and be like, hey,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I would love to photograph you. And it was like,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: worked every time. So you over there in France and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you got professional cameras. I'm saying that you could use
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that for different reasons. Not for the reason that cat
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: was doing it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I got you.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I got you. He abused a good thing. You know
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I think that for a lot of guys, the icebreaker
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: is the hardest part.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: And that camera is an automatic icebreaker. Because you don't
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: know what to say. You can't just walk up on
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: somebody and say, hi, my name is Bob.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: But if you're like.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: hey, we're shooting some stuff. Are you comfortable with this
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: going down? You shoot it like, yeah, I want to
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: make sure I get you this footage.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I feel like the camera's number one. Dog
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: is number two.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Well, dog, man.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Well, see, no, I see the dog is number two
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: because you can use the camera to warm up somebody
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: who perhaps was not necessarily interested. Right.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Right. You can't just.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Walk up with the dog. That's not a, the dog
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: can take you a lot of places. Yeah. Right.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Number three, sneaky one.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I remember we went to Daytona when Daytona was a thing. Yeah.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: We went to Daytona in 99, and one of the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: homies had snake. Snake work every time. They'd be scared
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: of the snake.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. The snake work, whether they're interested or not.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Right? Because if they're like, oh, no. Now, some people
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: are just going to be revolted by the snake.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: But I watched. It was cash money. It shouldn't be
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: that easy. A lot of those things just shouldn't be
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that easy.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, they.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Say that you can bond better in those high-stress situations.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: And so you bring that snake around, some people feel
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: very stressed. I would have said I would doubt the dog,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: but I feel like the dog is a culturally specific experience.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Very true.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Because back when I had a dog, the people who
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: came up to me they never had done their edges
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: before let me say that they were not they come
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: oh he's a cutie baby and it wasn't always necessarily
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: like looking to open the door for me it was
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: like oh i'm really here for the dog why are
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: you here i.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Tell you what's funny my so my brother and i live.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: In the same neighborhood my brother and his wife they
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: live a few blocks away from me and whenever i'm
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: walking streets my brother They ain't no people, man. They
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: all kind of, hey, such and such, they can tell
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you things about people in the neighborhood, so forth and
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: so on, da, da, da, right? I'm proud of myself
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that I know three people's names in my own building.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: They be knowing people in the street. And my brother
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: is a more, he's more extroverted than I am, right?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I'd say that. He's more likely to wind up talking
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: to strangers. But he explained to me, dude, it's the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: dog part.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Like, once you become part of that, everybody just kind
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of bounce around.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Like, Ryan talks about that at the kid park, you know?
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I'd just be out there for dolo. You know what
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I'm saying? I look like I am a wild card.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely true.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: If you are a man without a cuddly dog or
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: a woman to vouch, you are a wild card. I
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: was watching, when I came in, it was on Instagram.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: It was a comedy bit from, I forget her name,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: but both her names start with J. She's on Abbott Elementary.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: And she was just talking about just how, like, guys,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you know you're dangerous, right? Like, you have those guns, like,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: for each other. You know, you do understand this. She's like,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you know, when I go outside, nobody's worried about the
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: boogie woman. The boogie woman sounds like fun. You worried
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: about the boogie man.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: That's a quality bit.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: It's something that I also notice pretty routinely, and it's like,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: once you go out of a certain age range, people
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: aren't scared of you anymore.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: So like, I would dress differently in order.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: To make sure people knew, like depending on where I
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: was going or what I was doing, like the concept
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: was like, all right, I'm cool, you ain't gotta worry.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: This is my uniform to let you know that you
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: ain't gotta worry. And now it's a different type of
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: worry because it's like he might be crazy. Because you
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: can't be a 40-year-old man walking the streets doing work
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: hours in sweats.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: What you out here with no dog or nothing? What
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: you out here doing?
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Hey, man, none of us have earned the benefit of
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the doubt, unfortunately.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Agreed.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: The other homies have messed it up, right? None of
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: us have earned the benefit. That is one thing that
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: social media and all these movements of the years have
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: taught us is bad. I understand that we got to
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: be careful and I do think there's something to be
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: said about the idea of promoting the idea that there's
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: something inherently wrong about masculinity or inherently wrong with men
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and all of those things, right? I do agree that
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: we kind of need to be careful of the messaging
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: while also understanding we are a menace.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Bit one, gumbie one. We got to do better.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think the thin line that we have
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: to walk is like. don't talk bad about men, but
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: understand why women act the.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Way they act. It's like, that's the two different things.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: It's like, we got, we got some making up to do.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Things I used to assume were racism. I just
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: can't do anymore.
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: Boom.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: That's exactly right. That's exactly right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: I was the same way where it was like, like
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: nah she just.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: A woman and like the amount of.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Phony smiles that I throw out cause like I'm in
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: New York a couple times a week walking around in
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Soho the amount of phony smiles and I work late
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: some nights I'm walking through the streets and women are
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: also going from place to place at midnight and I'm
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: coming from work to my hotel the aggressiveness that I
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: smile at these people because I look, I know, I
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: know that ain't nobody out at this hour because I've
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: already changed out of my suit. Ain't nobody out at
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: this hour dressed like I'm dressed that you want to
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: be because it ain't worth.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: The risk to you.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't worth the risk.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I feel you. Todo es posible. If they cross the street,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I don't think twice. Go right ahead, ma'am. Nope, nope, nope.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Do what you got to do. By all means. You know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I hope you have a nice night.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. Bless you, sister. Exactly.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: That's where you got to start taking it to.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: With black women, we got that means of, like, that's
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the real, like, I see you, sister. Right? Yeah. We
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: ain't got no way to talk to white women to
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: put them at ease in that same way.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: We ain't got it, man. We just got to be like, hey, man,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Look, could be anything. I don't know.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: You know, I ain't lived her life. Like, that's the
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: thing I find that I say about women in a
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: lot of ways. Hey, man, I ain't lived her life.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: And I think that taking that extra precaution, if it's fair,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: I was trying to think of an analogy.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Like, where would I be that.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like I have to be, like, extra safe
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: and I would understand, like, assuming something about someone.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: But it's just.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: I think that Chappelle did a bit about driving on
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: the subway with money with a briefcase full of money.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: That was the most, that was.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: The most excellent and illuminating thing about what it feels
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: like to be a woman, because it's the same thing
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: is true.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: If everybody knew.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: I had $ 10, 000 cash in my pocket, I will be
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: scared of everybody.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And everybody knows it's how it works by definition. You
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: walk it around with $ 10, 000.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Like it is. Okay. Moving on.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Oddly feminist segment. It was. It was. It was.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this story. Make sure
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I get the names right. A lot going on there
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: with Tennessee Titans. And they released, his name is Jordan Elliott.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: He's a defensive tackle. He's a defensive lineman, which is
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: a topic that we have brought up on this show.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: And it's somewhere germane to where this story is going.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: he got into it with J.C. Latham, who was an
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman at practice. Well, okay, let me start this.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: They told us that he was off the team and
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: there was an incident on Thursday. On Tuesday, they said,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: is this it on Thursday? And so, you know, he's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: not going to be around no more. And everyone's like, huh,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I wonder what that incident was. And apparently, my man's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: been going through some things, but he got into it
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: with J.C. Latham at practice and he left practice but
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: he wanted to return with that thang. And I want
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to make sure I get proper credit. Timmy Horn. No, no,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Timmy Horn got the game day elevation.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: My fault.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: This article does not have the name of the teammate
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: that stopped him in the parking lot and talked him down.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: It's a good thing they talked him down. He still
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: had to. I wonder if a good player did that, Dominique.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Do you think he gets to keep his job? Let
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: me see how I can answer this. If Jalen Carter
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: tried to go get the tool and come back into
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the parking lot.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to be careful with how I answer
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: this to make sure I could say that.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: It would be fine.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: Hypothetically.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Hypothetically.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: If something like this may have ever happened in a
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: situation with a very talented player, I could say that
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: it's more than likely that nobody ever hears about it
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: and nothing ever happens.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: Maybe.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Possibly. I'm guessing.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Got you.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Complete hypothetical.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Sticking in the hypothetical realm. It was John Franklin Myers
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: who stopped him.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Hero.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Brother, look here.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget when Javon Belcher, for the Chiefs, who had,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: at his home, killed his wife. I can't remember if
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: it was his wife, but killed his woman, killed his kid.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Basically came to the facility to say goodbye to the
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: coaches before he killed himself, which he ultimately did. And
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell went out there to talk to him and
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: try to talk him down and everything else. And I
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: have I don't care what you think about Romeo as
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: any kind of head coach, whatever it was that I've
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: always looked at. That is like, Hey man, you went
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: out there with that dude that had nothing to lose.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: And that could have been, that could have been the
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: end for you. And you went out there and tried
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: to do something like shout out to you. And John
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Franklin Myers is not the same situation. Cause shout out
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: to him. Cause let me tell you something. When I'm
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: there and when buddy went to the parking lot and look,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Many of us listening to this, have been in a
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: circumstance where there was a scuffle, and then the scuffle
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: was stopped, and then somebody went to the parking lot.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And it's very difficult to explain, but there's just a
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: feeling in the air, this motherfucker about to come back
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and shoot up the spot. And when you have that
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: feeling in the air, when that guy goes to the
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: parking lot, you go to the parking lot too.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: But you don't follow him to his car.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: You go to your car and you depart. Yeah.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I would never have tried to walk.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Hey, hey, brother.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Hey, brother, what's going on, man? Let me talk to
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: you for a second.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: In fact, I'm trying to figure out how I was
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: only one person.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: You know how it was only one person. Everybody else
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: was like, nah. I mean, I'm yelling, you ain't got
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: to do this, bro. As I'm scooting. That's what I'm saying.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: If he go come back to here, I don't know
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: how we not all going.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: To the there.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: When the type of person who believes that the game ain't.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Over at the end of regulation... Like, whatever our altercation is, like,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: it's over. Let's shake hands and go to our locker room.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: He was like, nah, it's overtime, no matter what.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: He was like, it actually hasn't started yet.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Fair point.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: There's nothing quite like when somebody breaks up the fight.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Nah, it's cool. It's cool. Nah, nah, nah.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I'm fine.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Let's get out of here and get a little pep
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: in they step.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, no. This is not over at all.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: This is not at all what I thought it was.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: I've thought about this before, and I'm not that guy.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: I've been in altercations. I don't know how people maintain
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: that level of, like, fury.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Right? Because, like, I'm mad, I'm mad, I'm mad.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: The time it takes me to run here and go
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: back or whatever, like, by then, I'm.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Like, all right, well... We figured some things out. Like,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I would have cooled off.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Like, if I could see someone in the moment, right
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: in the moment, you got something on you, I could
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: understand getting high to that point where you lose it.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: But I, not me, I can't go all the way.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I'll start thinking about repercussions at that point.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Dominique, what position did you play?
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Exactly, right?
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I was a cornerback. I was out in the suburbs.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: I am not from the trenches. I did not play
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: in the trenches. I don't have a trench mentality, which
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: they do in there.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And once again, this is a conflict between a defensive
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: lineman and an offensive lineman.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: And the offensive lineman is like, oh, what got into
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: that guy?
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Like across the board, everybody's kind of like, I mean,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: it really wasn't that deep.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Can you believe that when you.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Put out that clip your show put out that clip
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: of me talking about like jokingly but in a place
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: of truth talking about the differences in these positions i
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: got some pushback people's like you don't you know not
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: like that this it's like look yeah i'm generalizing but
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: more often than not i know what i've been dealing
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: with i've been around this.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: You're like dude you don't even go to this school
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: right right like you're like you don't even go here
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: you know Last thing before we get out of here.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: You are a.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Big Jalen Den.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Jaden. Den.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: See, that other one done come in and messed everything up.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: You're a Jaden Daniels guy, and all my film guys
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: love him. All you guys that are about to process
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: say he is excellent. The question of him, obviously, is durability.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: But can that boy not count? How did this happen again?
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know whose fault it is, and it's not entirely.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's partially on everybody. I think we would agree.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: But the throwaway on fourth down to me was kind
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: of a come on. You got like nobody out here counting. I.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: So the thing about the thing about a lot of
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: these recent decisions for them is we get caught up
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: in trying to divide up the blame when I think
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: we need to isolate each conversation and put all the blame.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: On everybody.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Since you brought up Jaden, and I think he's the
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: most relevant one because I think those other two guys
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: probably not going to be in the roles anymore going forward. So, like,
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: all right, Dan Quinn blew it. He made mistakes. He
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: didn't understand.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I don't care. Dan Quinn not going to be a
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: head coach anymore. Like, he's done.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: And same thing, Blau, the offensive coordinator, he's going to
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: have to take a step back and he work his
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: way back up to being an offensive coordinator again soon.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: The one person who is a superstar and will continue
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: to be a superstar who had really inexplicable, like... late
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: game or important situations. Cause the first one wasn't late game,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: but he has some late game errors also, but who's
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: had these inexplicable mistakes. Yeah. It's, it's Jaden Daniels and
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: it matters because he's going to keep finding himself in
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: these situations. If you notice, we give a lot of
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: credit to Purdy and he deserves it. And Kyle Shanahan
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: for functioning a high functioning offense, despite all these injuries.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels don't got nobody.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: They said his offensive line was inoperable during training camp
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: after Laramie Tunstall got hurt, and then.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: More guys got hurt after that. In the course of this.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Game, they lost Trelon, Burks, and Scary Terry. Guess what
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Jayden did? Kept moving that thing down the field. Like,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: he's an excellent quarterback, but.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: He has some tough, tough, tough processing in those important
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: like game situations, which the problem is the difference between
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: like really good, great quarterbacks is the ones who take
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: advantage of those situations.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Those are the ones that are like legendary. And he
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: has the ability to be that if he can stay
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: healthy and he could figure out like what down it
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: is and what decisions to make on those now.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: So I hate to be this guy, what guy, this guy, however,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I still don't get how this didn't happen two weeks
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: in a row and ain't nobody got fired. It can't, like,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it was highly, this last one on national television. But
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: these were two highly embarrassing, indefensibly bad endings. And I
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: am shocked that no one seems to have, at the
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: very least, got to pay a fine.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, like James, let me tell you this.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: If James Brown ran that franchise, it'd have been a
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: new drummer in this motherfucker.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: I just don't, I just, I just, you know.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: Pawns!
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: I just don't understand. I'm nobody.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: Despite the success of James Brown, I'm not sure that's
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: the barometer I would use to make my decision.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: You know what, James? You know what?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: That was a buttoned-up operation over there, boy.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Tight!
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: I tell you this, it wouldn't have happened twice. I
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: know that much.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I would....
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I guess it's two questions for me is you expect
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: someone to go because that's how we normally do things.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: And like, you think that that's fair for somebody to
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: pay the consequences, but also like, do you think that
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: makes you better? And if the people who are responsible,
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: because I get the sense that the, uh, it feels
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: like Dan Quinn is not involved in the offense very
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: much at all. And also he handed off the defense
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: pretty much to Durante Jones and he's kind of graduated
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: to the CEO situation.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: And like, who are you firing him?
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: Because he hired someone who couldn't function in that situation.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: We're going back to the Giants tie. because it doesn't
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: seem like he was involved in that communications at all.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: So you're firing him because the guy he hired or
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: because the quarterback who's played football his whole life, who
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: should understand this scenario did something absurd.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: And so like, I'm not saying that you shouldn't, but,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Who then steps up?
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: Are you better off after that?
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: And so I'm with you. And maybe it's just, we
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: got to pay the consequences.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: You can't have it two weeks in a row.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. Two weeks in a row.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I throw this other part out here and I'm kind
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: of spitballing here. So I'm curious your thoughts.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: It feels like the coaches more than ever, Like, we're
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: a long way removed from this, but I think there's
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: some people that might be young enough listening to this
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: that don't know that quarterbacks used to call all their
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: own plays, which is not something they should have done,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: to be clear. But the quarterback used to be the
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: offensive coach, basically. It was, like, literally coach on the field.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: That's what it was.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: And the process is dialed back, back, back, and now
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: you got it to where they can get in their ears.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: and tell like Sean McVay basically telling Jared Goff exactly
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: what to do until the sound goes off in the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: helmet and the coach is almost the quarterback at this point.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: The way the general managers in baseball are now the managers.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Like it's trickled all the way down. And I wonder
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: if to a degree, since coaches in so many ways
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: have held these quarterbacks' hands in the ways they have,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: does that lead to perhaps in these moments where decisions
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: need to be made like that, that they are not
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: properly trained To jump up and do the thing.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not asking rhetorically just to be clear.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: I think that that's a reasonable theory. However, there's something,
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: some level of awareness is like, I understand we don't
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: read as a society nearly as much as we did
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: in the past.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: But I'm going to need you to be able to read. Right? So, like,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: I'm with you. I understand. Because you have that support.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: And that's fine.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Like, my memory and all of our memories are a
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: little bit worse because we can look stuff up.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Like, my sense of direction, putrid.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: My dad could have got us anywhere in this damn
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: country where... without a map, I can't get to places
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: I go all the time because I'm dependent on my GPS.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: Google knows where I am all the damn time. And
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: so like, I understand that this, the same phenomenon could
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: be happening in their heads. However, I understand how the
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: roads in DC work. I can get myself home. Like,
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's the same thing. It's like, it may,
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: it may take me twice as long as if I
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: had the GPS, but I'm going to get there. Eventually
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: there is a base level of football knowledge that your
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: quarterback got to have. And I love Jane Daniels. I
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: think he's incredible. Rooting for him is great, but I
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: can't lie to him. I can't, I can't stand up
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: here and say, this is all on the coaches. Nah, man,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: you know, you can't fall down. You know you have
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: no timeouts. You know you can't fall down. You also
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: should know that you can't lay there lifeless.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: For three seconds. That's tough. You know on fourth down,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: might as well take a shot.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: And we see quarterbacks do this because they want to
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: save their stats sometimes where they throw it out of
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: bounds on an important situation. I don't think that's what
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: he was doing because I was doing that game like
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: you mentioned on the playbook with– Brian Hoyer and Brian
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: Hoyer made the point that like what you do in
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: that situation is you just rifle it at somebody like
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: throw it so hard that nobody can catch it you
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: make it a flag because you know we're not gonna
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: catch it if anybody if you throw it hard as
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: shit only person that might catch is the person who's
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: looking at you who catches for a living the other
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: guys it's gonna be incomplete and also if it's intercepted
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: then you tackle them and they're still backed up that
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: one was like half situation so it didn't matter nearly
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: as much but it was a big one too.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels needed to be glad Ryan Fitzpatrick wasn't working
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: that game, boy. Like I said, say you wouldn't be
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: at Ryan Fitzpatrick.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Who was that that he was crushing? Bo Nix.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bo Nix.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: For playing Cowardly Football. And Keefe to leave was like,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: you don't have the right to talk about that. You
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: was too sorry. And I'm like, nah, nah, I disagree
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: on this. Ryan Fitzpatrick made a decision that, like, this
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: is how we do things.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: The one thing you can't say about Ryan Fitzpatrick, you
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: may say that he wasn't successful, but you can't say he.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Played cowardly football.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: No.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: No. And I, yeah, to be clear, I think that
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: he wouldn't have said that about Jayden Daniels.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Nope. Because Bo Nix wasn't produced at all game.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Like he'd have said in this moment, Jayden Daniels made
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: a really dumb mistake or was cowardly. But the rest
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: of that game, Jay was dragging them boys around.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Terrible fact. You're not talking about this on text. And
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: none of us think it's his fault. Last nine starts, 0-8-1.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: And sadly, the one is the most embarrassing one.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: I would rather be, yeah, 0-9-1 than have that terrible one.
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: I'm sure Jaden Daniels wishes that Scadaboo held on to
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: that thing and they kicked that field goal.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: That's a great point. Dominique Foxworth.
• 57:43
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• 57:48
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