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Katie Woolf spoke with Charlie King about the “NO MORE” Domestic & Family Violence Social Ride Saturday 6th February 2021 · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: For comprehensive political coverage impacting territorians. The only voice you
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  Speaker 1: need is Katie Woolf on three sixty remaining one hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent and to Mix one oh four point nine.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is just twenty four minutes after eleven o'clock
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  Speaker 2: and I'm very pleased to say that joining me in
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  Speaker 2: the studio right now is much loved and well respected
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  Speaker 2: broadcaster and also campaigner against domestic violence, Charlie King.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning.
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  Speaker 4: Hellok, congratulations on your reward.
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  Speaker 3: I must say thank you very much sir your moment.
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  Speaker 2: I believe you've got the same, don't you. And I
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  Speaker 2: really appreciate that. Charlie, you are somebody who I've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of respect for us very much appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. I mean it too, because you do some
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  Speaker 4: great work and well done as we've got this big
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  Speaker 4: ride coming up this Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, for those out there listening who don't know as
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  Speaker 2: much about no More as as others, talk us through.
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  Speaker 3: Firstly, what it's all about.
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  Speaker 4: Aure right, Well, I'll tell you the history of it,
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  Speaker 4: because it's a good moment to raise the fact that
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  Speaker 4: the man who first said those words no More is
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  Speaker 4: an old man from Jundamu called Jakamara Nelson. That's not
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  Speaker 4: his name, but we in respect we call it Jakamara.
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  Speaker 4: So he passed away on Monday. Now he was somewhere
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  Speaker 4: between seventy seven and eighty two years old. We we
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  Speaker 4: don't quite know, but he did outlive the life expectancy
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  Speaker 4: for an Indigenous male, which is about seventy six. So
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  Speaker 4: he got beyond that. But he passed away. But in
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  Speaker 4: two thousand and six, when I traveled around the Northern
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  Speaker 4: Territory talking to men specifically about family bo it's not
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  Speaker 4: just indigenous men, but I visited I think about thirty
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  Speaker 4: four communities and I went to Jundamou and I had
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  Speaker 4: a group of men of about I don't know thirty men,
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  Speaker 4: and we were and they wanted to talk football with me,
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  Speaker 4: which we did and whatever. And then then we got
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  Speaker 4: to the bit around domestic violence. And I said to them,
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  Speaker 4: do you know how big this problem is in Australia
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  Speaker 4: And they said, well, no, we don't. And I said, well,
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  Speaker 4: at that time, five hundred thousand victims of family violence
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  Speaker 4: every year. I said five hundred thousand. That's one every minute.
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  Speaker 4: So you played football for two hours, that's one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and twenty minutes. That's one hundred and twenty victims more.
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  Speaker 4: And they all looked at me and they were quiet,
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  Speaker 4: and that old man got up. He was younger than
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  Speaker 4: of course, and he walked towards me, and he was
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  Speaker 4: only a meter in front of me, and he shook
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  Speaker 4: his finger, waggled his finger in front of my eyes,
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  Speaker 4: and he said, no more, no more. So no more
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  Speaker 4: an aboriginal way means get rid of it. Looking for
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  Speaker 4: someone that's passed away. What happened to old Billy? They said,
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  Speaker 4: he's no more, he's gone finished, you know. So that's
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  Speaker 4: and so I thought, that's a strong statement to you.
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  Speaker 4: So we've dedicated our work to people like Jakomara, who
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  Speaker 4: we remember now and we're trying to get that statue
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  Speaker 4: made to recognize him, or people who do the most
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  Speaker 4: work to try and stop family violence.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it's such important work that you're doing all
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  Speaker 2: around the Northern Territory and it's spread even further now
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  Speaker 2: as well, has Nash is it? You know, it's something
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  Speaker 2: I think that we all need to be talking about.
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  Speaker 2: And this weekend you've actually got a really special event,
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  Speaker 2: a big event taking place. It's a ride and everybody
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  Speaker 2: can can really get involved, can't.
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  Speaker 3: They, Charlie yep.
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  Speaker 4: So you meet out at Hidden Valley I think about
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  Speaker 4: three point thirty on Saturday, and you ride from Hidden
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  Speaker 4: Valley into this dall and CBD and then down Daily
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  Speaker 4: Street and out on Tobacco Road now to the Nightcliffe Oval,
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  Speaker 4: and you arrive there around about I don't know what time,
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  Speaker 4: just before the game starts.
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  Speaker 3: I think I've got it here.
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  Speaker 2: Start So start at three point thirty I believe, and
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  Speaker 2: then you arrive at or finish at about six pm
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  Speaker 2: at Nightcliffe Ove.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. And then we want the motorcycle riders
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  Speaker 4: and they could be up to two hundred if the
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  Speaker 4: weather's fine. We hope it's a fine day. But they'll
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  Speaker 4: all link arms and do an arc around the players
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  Speaker 4: who will do the same thing Nightcliffe and Palmerston. So
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  Speaker 4: we're really pleased. I had to talk with the Nightcliffe
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  Speaker 4: team last night, and I'll talked to Palmerston before the
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  Speaker 4: weekend about what they're going to do. But we'll have
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  Speaker 4: a no more stand set up there in information like
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  Speaker 4: you have when you go out there and broadcast from
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  Speaker 4: out there. You know, are you broadcasting from out there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure whether we are. I
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  Speaker 2: won't be there this weekend. But Charlie, this is something
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  Speaker 2: that you know that you've done, or that you do
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of the different sporting clubs and also
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  Speaker 2: different community groups. How important is it really to get
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  Speaker 2: these different community groups and sporting clubs involved?
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  Speaker 4: The greatest thing whenever you raise this issue with anyone,
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  Speaker 4: they're so interested in it and they feel strongly about it,
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  Speaker 4: but you know that when you walk away, it disappears
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  Speaker 4: and they get on with their normal life. What we're
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  Speaker 4: trying to do is keep the message out there for
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  Speaker 4: as long as we possibly can raise awareness around it.
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  Speaker 4: Like that figure I gave you five hundred thousand one
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  Speaker 4: every minute people stop and think as that you know,
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  Speaker 4: and I say, is this a lucky country? Well, it's
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  Speaker 4: not for everybody, not five hundred and five hundred thousand victims.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, one act of violence can affect thirty
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  Speaker 4: five people directly associated with It's a bit a bit
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  Speaker 4: like the virus, you know, like you just don't know
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  Speaker 4: how bad it can be, but it's a terrible thing.
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  Speaker 4: And so we try to make a strong message out
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  Speaker 4: there that do what you can to stop family violence,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll give some tips out about what things people
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  Speaker 4: can actually do, you know, to be an active bystander
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  Speaker 4: or someone who just ignores it and walks away.
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  Speaker 2: Is it important as well to sort of have that
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  Speaker 2: message really at some of these at some different events too,
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  Speaker 2: where for some young people, if there may be growing
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  Speaker 2: up in a home that is violent, they might realize
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  Speaker 2: that it's not the way that other families are. But
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  Speaker 2: is it important do you think sometimes for our younger
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  Speaker 2: generation as well to understand that it's not okay and
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  Speaker 2: that if there is something like that going on, that
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  Speaker 2: there are people that they can speak to you.
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  Speaker 4: That's an amazing question to ask, and it fits in
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  Speaker 4: very strongly with a meeting I had yesterday with the
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  Speaker 4: police outside of Darwin, and what's happening in some families
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  Speaker 4: is the teenage group in the family are actually beating
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  Speaker 4: the younger ones in that group because they've all grown
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  Speaker 4: up knowing that violence is the way to deal with problems.
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  Speaker 4: So they're saying, as much as it's the adults, it's
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  Speaker 4: the older kids beating up the younger kids now and
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  Speaker 4: in a bad, savage way, you know. So it's I
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  Speaker 4: mean this issue was so big it'll just continue to grow.
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  Speaker 4: So if we can raise awareness and make people talk
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  Speaker 4: about it, and people like you give us time to
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  Speaker 4: talk about it on radio and the newspapers and go
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  Speaker 4: onto it and television, it gets it out there when
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  Speaker 4: when people we want people to rise up and say
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  Speaker 4: no more, We're not going to put up with this anymore.
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  Speaker 4: What can I do to help? That's what we're looking for.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a really important message, So important, Charlie.
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  Speaker 3: We have been talking this morning as well.
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  Speaker 2: About the report which was handed down into the Collingwood
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  Speaker 2: Football Club into racism.
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  Speaker 3: What was your reaction?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's a disgraceful report in terms of
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  Speaker 4: looking at it from the Collingwood point of view. But
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  Speaker 4: what bothers me so much about that was their president,
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  Speaker 4: Eddie Maguire, who came out and said those ridiculous things
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  Speaker 4: about this being a proud and of course, as most
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  Speaker 4: Indigenous people, our minds went straight back to the stuff
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  Speaker 4: he said about Adam Goods and got away with it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how long can they put up with him?
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  Speaker 4: You know? And I just get really disappointed when I
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  Speaker 4: hear the you know, the head of AFL sort of
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  Speaker 4: almost excuses him said, oh, look, I wouldn't have I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't have used that word proud, you know, But at
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  Speaker 4: the same time saying what a great man. This is
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  Speaker 4: not a great man. This is not a great man
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  Speaker 4: and he never has been. And the quicker the Collingwood
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  Speaker 4: Committee dumps him, the better off they will be. Just
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  Speaker 4: take a stand against that stuff because it is unacceptable
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  Speaker 4: and it just incites more vicious views about racism in Australia,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like it's okay to put someone down because
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  Speaker 4: of their race. It is not good, you know. And
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  Speaker 4: you don't know the effects of racism unless you're on
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  Speaker 4: the receiving end of it. I've always said that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: unless you get, unless you cop it, then you just
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  Speaker 4: don't know. And I know from when I was a
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  Speaker 4: little boy, you know, and we used to walk along
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  Speaker 4: the stre eat singing. You know, if you step on
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  Speaker 4: a crack, you marry your black I didn't know what
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  Speaker 4: that meant. I didn't know what that meant. When I
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  Speaker 4: found out, I was like horrifying. You know, they're if
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  Speaker 4: they step on a crack, the thing one day they'll
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  Speaker 4: marry someone like me.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you go, what's wrong with that it all well.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I think it's one of those things, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, unless you're on the receiving end of it,
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  Speaker 2: you don't actually, we don't understand it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't been on the receiving end of a racist comment.
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  Speaker 3: I have.
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  Speaker 2: I've certainly seen somebody say something racist about my nephew
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  Speaker 2: and it made me incredibly upset. So I can only
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  Speaker 2: imagine how it would be to be the person who's
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  Speaker 2: on the receiving end of it. I mean, do you
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  Speaker 2: think we need to do more as a community when
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  Speaker 2: you talk about specifically in the sporting you know, in
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  Speaker 2: the sporting community, to try to really stop that racism.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think sport and territory it does
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  Speaker 4: it very well, really, you know. I mean someone's talking
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  Speaker 4: to me yesterday and said, you know how many Aboriginal
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  Speaker 4: players plan? I said, well, there's a lot, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like people want Aboriginal players to play. And let's make
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  Speaker 4: this clear, it's not just Aboriginal people. It's all the
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  Speaker 4: migrants that come here, you know what I mean, Like,
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  Speaker 4: let's get this right, you know, let's be a country
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  Speaker 4: that reaches out and welcomes people and helps them and
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  Speaker 4: works with them and accepts them for what they are.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know what, Because the one thing you can't
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  Speaker 4: change in your life is what you are, what you're
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  Speaker 4: born as, And that's what's hurtful about racism comments. What
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  Speaker 4: can you do about it? What can you do? Nothing?
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  Speaker 4: You can't do anything about it. If they make you
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  Speaker 4: feel bad about it, you try desperately to rise above
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  Speaker 4: that and start to feel good about it. And some
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  Speaker 4: people can, but not everybody can. Some people are crushed
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  Speaker 4: by it and their whole life is suppressed because they've
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  Speaker 4: been racially abused, you know. And we've seen it in
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  Speaker 4: the early days in the AFL. We don't see it anymore,
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  Speaker 4: but you know we've seen it in the cricket I
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  Speaker 4: mean most recently when the Indians were here. Well, what's
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  Speaker 4: all that about? We need to stamp it out, talk
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  Speaker 4: about it and say this is not acceptable. We need
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  Speaker 4: the Prime Minister to get out and say the time
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  Speaker 4: has come for Australia to do a lot more in
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  Speaker 4: this area, not sugarcoated or move away from it. And
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  Speaker 4: when people do the wrong thing, put them in their
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  Speaker 4: place and call them out.
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  Speaker 2: Charlie King, really good to talk to you this morning,
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  Speaker 2: and we will make sure that all of our listeners
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  Speaker 2: know exactly where they need to be and what time,
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  Speaker 2: of course, for the No More Domestic and Family Violence
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  Speaker 2: social right that's happening this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like it's going to be a great, great event.
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  Speaker 2: And thanks so much for coming in and talking to
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  Speaker 2: us about a raft of different things, but particularly about
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  Speaker 2: the No More campaign and all the great work you
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  Speaker 2: do in that space.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks Courdie, really get the chance to do it, but
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  Speaker 4: when I come always walk away feeling pretty happy about it.
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  Speaker 3: Charlie, thank you.