Latest / For All Nerds Show / Loki (and The MCU) Got A Problem

Transcript

Loki (and The MCU) Got A Problem · For All Nerds Show

0:00
You are now listening to for All Nerds Show, a podcast about geek and
0:03
pop culture from the perspective of people of color. For All Nerds is hosted
0:07
by DJ Benarmen and Tatana Keene Jones. For All Nerd Show as a member
0:11
of the Loudspeaker's Network, where we will always say rest in peace to our
0:15
founder, combat Jack. For All Nerd Show is powered by our listeners.
0:19
Everything we do, from our podcasts, live events, our website are all
0:24
independently funded. Please continue to support us through our Patreon page at patreon dot
0:28
com slash for All Nerds. Welcome to the For All Nerds Show and What's
0:50
up y'all, and welcome to another episode of the Full All Nerd Show,
0:58
the voice of irving geek podcasts where we discress geek and pop culture from the
1:03
perspective of people of color m HM and always in the Captain chair, It's
1:10
your boy Top Pilgrim aka bid Fetch aka Lion of Richie Ka, the legend
1:17
of slap events Dayla Troll, he who complains your boy been I mean here
1:23
in the spaceship tonight, and it's always Tatiana King d Grandez to the Deck
1:30
also known as Flex, luth Or Barretta, Scott King, Gucci, Mandalorian,
1:34
Glo, Rilla, grod Lambo, Calrisian Scroll Up City and Miles Tails,
1:40
the Prowler, Mulatto, High Tower, Lord of Lightsabers for Us by
1:45
the Last of Us, The Little Mermaid and the Ting of the North.
1:49
Wow, you just had to keep going after you know, you know,
1:52
you're trying to, you know, meet with my viciousness over here. But
1:56
I understand ones that I don't say much. True indeed, true, indeed.
1:59
All right, Well, NBA, you and boy never blipped again.
2:01
Back again here in the spaceship tonight, and it's a you know, it's
2:07
been a good week. How y'all, how y'all doing out there? I
2:08
hope everybody is living their life, enjoying themselves. Catching up. You know,
2:13
we had that big episode last week where we caught you up on everything
2:16
that's been going down. Shout out to Leslie over at the n m A
2:23
a HC. Word up. Do you know what that stands for? Yes,
2:28
the National Museum of African American History and Culture. Baby, come on,
2:32
I'm on it. I've been in it. I've been blessed, I've
2:36
been baptized, you know it, you know it. I still can't get
2:43
over that music floor. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, y'all just
2:46
don't as a as a you know, black music head. It was just
2:51
it was I mean talking about speaking my language like it was just it was
2:55
everything. And you know, shout out to my book Hendreds, which drops
2:59
and that July from Type Publishing. Pre order it now, because one of
3:02
the central themes that I'm not going to give away is so related to that
3:07
floor of music. And it was just like, hmm, this is so
3:13
beautiful. M m so. So yeah, shout out to Leslie, Shout
3:16
out to the n M a h C where we did that panel. You
3:20
can hear all about it right now. You can also peep the whole panel
3:24
on YouTube. We're gonna have to do a you know, we talk about
3:28
these other few episodes that we're gonna be dropping, so and we definitely gonna
3:31
have to do one on that because you know, we got to repost review
3:35
us talking at the on the panel. The panel, yes, you know,
3:38
we go to talk about experience, the feeling, how it was backstage,
3:44
and all the inside information that people don't know about, you know what
3:46
I mean. Okay, with it. Yeah, and we're also gonna be
3:51
doing that, you know if you didn't. You know, just people were
3:53
saying right now, we're gonna be bringing back some old episodes because this is
3:55
our tenth anniversary year. We have been doing this for ten years, and
4:00
some of y'all are new to this, you know. Like I was talking
4:02
to people, somebody hit me up like yo, because they saw my picture
4:05
with Tana Hosy coach, shout out to my brother, shout out to Hu,
4:09
you know, and they were like, yo, when you're gonna have
4:12
Tannaha see on the show. That's your boy. And I'm like, Negro,
4:15
please, We've already had them on the show twice. Dose you know
4:18
what I mean, So you gotta go back. But some people don't know
4:21
that because some people just started listening. It's a lot to scroll through ten
4:26
years of episodes, so they might not know that we've had Tanaazzi on the
4:30
show twice, that we've had djil Older on the show full times, just
4:33
Blaze of Faux five, you know, Mad Times, Young Girl Guru a
4:39
billion times, DMC of Run DMC, I mean, don Will Jean Gray.
4:46
I don't know a lot of people have been on this motherfucking shit,
4:48
you know what I mean, Like a lot of people, I don't even
4:49
remember it these days, you know, it's been ten years. Didn't even
4:54
know we had DMC on the show. No, Like he said that and
4:57
I'm like what, and I googled it and it popped up. I'm like,
5:00
yet, that wasn't I think you were. I think you just weren't
5:02
there that night, you know, But I don't know because I know the
5:08
room reported. But I'm pretty sure Jamie was there because I remember Jamie,
5:14
I know was there for me. No Ji, no Jamie, and you
5:17
came on the exact same episode day, same day, both of y'all,
5:21
you know, because I put out the call and both of y'all came through
5:25
for the same episode. Because I'll never forget that that was you know,
5:28
that was a moment. I know how that went, Like both we all
5:30
came through and me and Chico both sitting there like, wow, we got
5:33
two fucking champions joining us now, like here, I mean, look,
5:41
that was my goal, Like ship, I was like, this is not
5:44
popping y'all negro itis up in here. That's funny, funny, that's right,
5:50
and the inflammation of Negroes. That's what it is, abstutely stand for
5:56
information. Yes, so it was Negro artists and we had to cure that,
6:01
you know what I mean. And now we have a first cast and
6:04
crew of the four All Nerds show as it should be. You know,
6:09
we are inclusion is revolution. So you know, we got to bring back
6:12
some of that to show people our history, you know what I mean,
6:15
because I'm with it, with it a lot. I'm with it. Are
6:18
we we're time jumping now? Yeah? Man, you know time jumping time
6:23
people slipping slipping into the huge How on the nose would have been if they
6:30
played that song? I mean it would have been about right for everything else
6:34
all every other musical drop has been on the notes. Yeah, what are
6:40
we talking about? I guess we're gonna get right into it. Yeah,
6:43
when I could talk about Marvel's whole you know, well, I think it
6:46
needs right into it. I think I think understanding where we are with Loki
6:49
will lead right into this big conversation with Marble. True indeed, and all
6:55
right, First of all, people on YouTube, somebody came to me.
6:58
I mean people coming to me all the time. I'm used to it,
7:00
you know, but someone said that I wanted answers, and I don't.
7:05
Like I don't. I also feel like a lot of people listen to me,
7:09
like I've told just million times out down, like people listen to me
7:12
on this show. They hear one thing that I say and they're like,
7:15
let me know about that one thing he said, And it's like, bro,
7:19
that's like ninety percent of everything else I said was not that. And
7:24
if you thought I wanted answers like I want to know what the future is
7:28
or you know what the king, I don't give a shit. I think
7:31
people who are focused on that that's one of the biggest problems. And I've
7:34
said that multiple times on this show. I want each self contained story to
7:40
be a self contained, worthwhile story. I have not been convinced that anything
7:46
is really happening Loki, especially as far as like character growth. But you
7:51
can't really call that a self contained story. It's supposed to connect to everything.
7:56
But but hold on, hold on, Okay. This is also related
8:00
to the overall Marvel conversation we're going to have. But the idea that the
8:03
original Marvel or I don't want to say Marvel idea, but the original corporate
8:07
idea that there will never not be some Marvel something happening at any one time.
8:13
Right, they said there's no movie, there's gonna be a TV show.
8:16
They no TV show is gonna be a special, they gonna be a
8:18
movie. Remember that. Remember that. So as far as throwing any fucking
8:22
thing at the wall and making sure that just Marvel's name stay in the room,
8:26
even if good or bad, I think that, And and this is
8:31
all supposed to connect, right, technically, all is supposed to connect the
8:33
shows to the film, to all this other stuff. So self contained in
8:39
the manner of that's about that character, sure, but not really self contained
8:43
within the manner of the entire universe of the the MCU. But I think
8:48
that all right, I think Marvel has learned one that they don't just because
8:54
it's in the MCU doesn't mean it has to like immediately relate, right like
9:01
obvious, Yeah, or even or even like have a chance really like like
9:05
there's okay, there's ways that they're gonna make Werewolf by Night relate in the
9:09
long run if they want. The way I loved it, see that's what
9:15
I'm saying. Okay, I loved it, but it was like different strokes
9:16
for differ folks, and I think that's yeah, that's why I love Werewolf
9:18
by Night because it took chances and it was different strokes for different folks,
9:22
and it really unless they wanted to later on, it doesn't matter. None
9:26
of the characters have to show up in the Avengers, sure, you know,
9:28
but they're not flagship Markey characters either. But okay, see here's another
9:33
one. And this throws into that Marvel conversation later when they were talking about
9:35
bringing back Tony Stark and shit, I'm like, nigga, what y'all had,
9:39
Like Tony Stark was motherfucking marquee. Like at first to all y'all mcu
9:45
heads, he is, because of course you know, Junior, but for
9:48
anyone who was before that, this nigga was sea level like he's part of
9:52
the Avengers. Sure, but iron Man is not the premier coma book,
9:58
like the premier seller of Marvel common. It's has always been the X Men,
10:01
you know. And then and yeah, then I think Avengers, you
10:09
know, it's like literally were they gonna have to lean on now? X
10:11
Men is like, if you believe in all of doom and gloom talk,
10:15
X Men is now the only hope right now. And I don't believe that
10:16
at all. I don't believe that talk at all. That it's silly talk
10:20
to me, because it's like they had Iron Man and made a superstar out
10:22
of him. They had Thor and made a Thor. When you talk about
10:26
like sea level fucking characters like that, Man's book was struggle unless Walt Simmonson
10:31
was on it, Like it was a struggle for years. So and then
10:33
you know, after the MCU, it's all kind of hot dope shit came
10:37
up. But I'm talking like before that, it was struggle. You know,
10:41
his book wasn't popping. Captain America's book wasn't popping like that. None
10:43
of these characters books were popping. X Men was popping, but Marvel couldn't
10:48
use x Men, they couldn't use Spider Man. So thats they started the
10:50
MCU with these characters they did not want to start with, so they could
10:54
take if what they need is a good story, what they needed good writers.
11:00
That's why you know they pay people. Finally, now maybe we might
11:03
see the effect because now they can get some talent in there who's gonna want
11:07
to really work and really get paid for it. So hopefully, you know,
11:11
the writing is going to get to where it needs to go, and
11:13
hopefully to slow down will make them like. That's my issue with Loki.
11:18
It's not about answers. My issue with Loki is I feel like fay here
11:22
or someone said, all right, this is what we need from you.
11:24
We need at the end of this, we need the canes to pop up
11:28
beyond that. It's on you, bro, it's on you. But it's
11:33
like, not only is it just on you, it's also we don't need
11:37
too much else to happen. But I also feel like I have to blame
11:43
the people behind Loki because I feel like they probably told the same thing to
11:48
Kate Herron, and I feel like she did more with that, you know,
11:50
and I feel like certain people have done more with like the holding pattern
11:56
of these shows. You know, yeah, because you can still tell a
11:58
dope where you can still characters, yes, that makes you care and may
12:03
and want to see their journey. And in the second season of Loki,
12:05
I've not seen that. I've seen these characters that restarted episode after episode,
12:09
right like literal reboots of their comic book kind of parts, just you know,
12:15
on account of like you could die in the comic you come back the
12:18
next the next is literally I saw that happen over and over and over again,
12:20
and it's like it's lost. It's it's lost its shine. I don't
12:26
Yeah, I mean you can't keep Yeah, like now you're doing the infinity
12:31
fade. Just what that's what Linguini he like, all right, you know
12:35
that it's disturbing. I will say that it's not my favorite thing to look
12:37
at, but no, you know, it is like it makes me feel
12:41
be fifty whatever. Be fifteen scream was pretty horrifye. I don't, yeah,
12:46
but like I don't know, Like I want to just just real quick
12:50
just mention that about season one of Loki, because I will say that fulfilled
12:54
that idea of like it's almost being the show's being a holding pattern to need
13:01
to keep you satiated until the next film, right, but you can still
13:05
have a compelling story. And when you look at season one on its own,
13:09
that was an incredibly compelling story that if you took it out the time,
13:13
I wouldn't necessarily disturb movies around it, right or the next movie is
13:16
coming out, right, like I think, And I'm not saying take it
13:20
out in a negative way. I'm just saying that it was able to and
13:22
what you were talking about earlier tell its own story and its own contained space
13:28
and also still fulfill both ends of the bargain, right like next Yeah,
13:35
and it also I think I I'm wondering we I mean, like I love
13:41
Kate and everything, and I love you know, the season one, but
13:43
I'm like, were we fooled there too? Like because I fooled in one
13:48
way? Like because what you lied about and what were you fooled about?
13:54
You want to cancel with me again? Okay, like what are you doing?
13:58
And you want to be fooled by a storyteller? But like the like
14:00
the problem with Loki. One of the problem is like one thing that has
14:03
doing with it in season two is like even to me, in season two,
14:07
it's every episode has been highly entertaining because Tom Hitdleson and the rest of
14:11
the cast are fucking amazing, and the little bit they give Shorty who's playing
14:18
Sylvie this season, she eats it alive and it makes me like miss her
14:22
and care for But it's like, at the same time, every episode has
14:26
been a reboot. Reboot. Okay, you know everybody died at the end
14:30
of the last episode, everybody dies. At the end of this episode,
14:33
they're all back together again finally. I think the show is a very literal
14:39
manifestation of the idea of time folding in on itself or the of the Mobius
14:45
strip of the or Burroughs, like, all of it is like super on
14:48
the nose. The whole thing is a conundrum and parallel and uh, what's
14:54
the other? Yeah, paradox paradox. Thank you, Like like I get
15:01
it. I kind of got it the first time round, and then like
15:05
now in episode four, like you you like get it. I don't know,
15:11
like it was entertaining, but I'm just like, damn, what the
15:15
hell are you going right now? And we but we said this, they
15:18
said, were said, there's no way all these niggas is gonna die,
15:20
and I'd be the end of it. Man's literally found a way to control
15:24
his time slipping to go back to write before I assume right before Victor Timeley
15:31
runs out the dough with the with the alleged thing to fix the loom.
15:35
So he's going to run out the door now and somehow not die. Are
15:39
they gonna change something else? Are they not gonna do that? Whatsoever,
15:43
Like he said, I write it, and like there's some interesting stuff being
15:48
played with here, like I'm one of my favorite comic books. Planetary had
15:54
a whole issue dedicated to it, and a lot of it is about that,
15:56
and even Stephen King, a lot of writers talk about this medinnis about
16:00
writing and about you know, is like are we and it's something to me
16:03
and you were to talk about before the show is like we write our own
16:07
realities. You know, we create our own story. You know, we
16:10
tell a story and the story becomes real and that's like, you know,
16:15
something that storytellers deal with and you know, people who imagine their lives deal
16:19
with, and just there's some interests of being played with on the edges.
16:25
Yes, but I don't feel like it's really like when you know, or
16:29
Boris is dying and he's like it wasn't, it's not a problem, and
16:32
then you know it wasn't. He realized that he needs to write his own
16:34
story and be the hero of his own story. I guess right. But
16:40
then yeah, and then there's like the the like there's like the goofiness of
16:44
it, like this wasn't this episode. But when Loki and Sylvie are having
16:48
that conversation, He's like, we gotta hope Sylvie, and like, you
16:51
know, it's like, we gotta hope the cops get better. You know
16:52
cause basically that's what he's saying. Because the TVA or a bunch of cops,
16:56
and he's basically saying, I gotta hope the police get better. It's
16:57
like that doesn't work fair time, right, you know, like Sylvie's dead
17:03
ass, right, Like the TVA is not going to work, and you
17:07
knew that before. It's I don't know everyone's motivations this season. I'm just
17:11
not understanding expresses motivations. He wants to get back, but he wants to
17:17
belong and he wants his friends back, but he wants some place to call.
17:23
So I mean, but what about your brother, my brother one who
17:30
has a live brother Okay that he sucks with that he cares about. That
17:37
has anything to do with anything happening in this series. No, I mean
17:40
no, I mean I get it. So he wants Sylvie and all of
17:41
them, but like one that Casey, that MOBI is that ain't they?
17:47
That ain't the right one? This some dude who don't know shit about the
17:51
TVA. You're gonna take these niggas who ain't like, you're gonna take this
17:55
thief to try and stop and save the world out, like like, these
17:59
ain't the dude. So is it going to be Lowki that creates the TVA
18:03
in the end, It's gonna be pictures of images of him in statues and
18:08
on the walls and everything else. I mean, but how King Look,
18:12
I don't know, going back to this whole marvel thing that we're gonna talk
18:15
about, they say that, you know, people who've seen the final episode
18:18
are like, yo, they locked into this job of the major ship man,
18:21
like you know, but also yeah, they say that in the context
18:25
of the multiverse, like as if the multiverse doesn't exist, as if they
18:27
have not been using this as a as a you know, just as the
18:32
what the dance as maca. But what I'm saying, they so far they
18:36
you know, they're locked in, like change it, Bravona, ain't turning,
18:41
ain't showing up as King in the last episode of what I'm saying,
18:44
Sure, sure, regardless of how this goes, it does not necessarily affect
18:48
everything else that's happening in the MTU right now. Like they've literally sitting there
18:52
on edge the fucking rewrite the next four years. I'm really thinking that that's
18:55
where they are right now. I believe it if they need if need be,
18:59
because you make billions upon billions of dollars, even when your failed quote
19:03
unquote movie still makes damn near a billion dollars. You can do shit like
19:07
say, let's rewrite the next fucking face or rearrange thing and maybe not even
19:12
be right. Maybe they just rearrange things. That's also something that was talked
19:15
about in that article about all they may flop around. And that's another thing
19:21
when I kept when I read through, I realized a lot of this articles
19:23
just hearsay, and it's here say a lot of it is just bs,
19:30
and it's like, well someone told me my Homegirl said in the Bello No
19:33
Chase, And it's just like, but nigga, anyone who actually makes the
19:37
decisions say something, well, I heard Homegirl got fired because it's like a
19:41
big episode of mean girls. And I'm like, wait a minute, is
19:45
this one variety article that we're talking about has now spawned? Like I mean,
19:49
we're talking about it like I know, I mean, everyone has an
19:53
article and it did what it's supposed to do. It did what it was
19:56
supposed to do, which was to have the me and everyone in media talking.
20:00
We need to start doing that. We should start doing that. We
20:03
should start making up wild ship. This is what we heard, yo yo,
20:07
when I heard yeah, they're about to bring high evolutionary back word up.
20:12
Hang out of here, fam. This is why we think is happening,
20:15
because people are saying the person right, many people are saying the Panini's
20:22
to the office of the person who does the fucking script delivery told me.
20:29
Everybody's talking about this. I know, and I and I want to talk
20:33
about things. I do want to talk about it, but I also want
20:36
to talk about how weird it is. It's just like everybody's talking about highvolutionary
20:41
coming back. You haven't heard that, Like everybody's been talking about shut up.
20:45
Many people are saying, but yeah, man, like I just I
20:52
guess I just wanted to make that point that none of them like maybe it's
20:56
one of three things that are a fact that everything else is just like,
20:59
so I heard, and this is what the streets is saying. And it's
21:00
like, all right, I'm sure there's some merits, some water being held
21:04
somewhere, but what about the rest and the timing is odd. I mean,
21:10
they talked a lot about the whole thing with the Marvels and how they're
21:12
like, oh, I don't know, like they're basically writing it off before
21:15
it even happens in the next week or two. And I'm just like,
21:21
what the fuck is going on, because it's like it's just the way it
21:26
was just dropped down into the media spear of me, just like negativity spread
21:30
it. I'm just like, what's going on? Yeah, I mean,
21:33
even the big one that was really hilarious in that article was when they were
21:40
talking about how, I mean, are well we can get back to Loki
21:42
but still talking about it, and an article they were talking about how Blade
21:48
almost turned you know, female centric and all this. It was just like
21:53
Marbury, let's drum up the hate, you know, let's this is what
21:57
I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. I'm gonna third, I'm gonna
22:02
find this tweet because it doesn't make sense. Okay, So they're talking about
22:07
yeah again, I'm just I'm just quoting from the article, not from facts.
22:12
Sawmon told me that at this stage that Blade is the fourth lead in
22:17
his own movie, and this this and that Michael Starberry, who was one
22:22
of the fucking writers on it at least at one point, was just like
22:26
and he was on it in like too late in the game. He was
22:30
just like, yeah, no point in time was any script that I worked
22:33
on. Was he ever a fourth lead? Or what they said they tried
22:36
to say, like it was like feminine feminist focus or some weird they were
22:41
talking about. I'm like, where do y'all come up with this? Because
22:44
the Blade does have a daughter now on the common books, and there was
22:48
he would be introduced yet daughter. What wasley s nice was doing it?
22:52
What do you mean? Like? What you know what? Because people loved
22:59
it. It's just like you were saying, like how the Marvels is getting
23:03
all this like oh, it's got to be trashed, It's going to be
23:06
failed because there you know. Sadly, to this day there is still that
23:10
side. Like I saw tweets where people were celebrating all the good stuff that
23:14
was happening with Marvel but then in the same tweet being like, oh yeah,
23:18
and the Marvels is crashed into the ground. So it's like they're happy
23:22
because you know, the male male central ship is getting pushed up and then
23:26
you know Marvels. But then y'all but then y'all sound stupid, and y'all
23:30
sound this is your your your pat You're doing the same pattern that's always happening.
23:34
You're doing the oh gosh, you know, go woke, you know,
23:41
get broke type ship. You know, it's that dumb ship. I
23:45
feel like Moby is stripped. I feel like a mob. This is happening
23:48
again. When did this happen before? It happened for what you hope?
23:51
When did this happen before? It happened before with the first Miss Marvel?
23:53
When did this happen before? Like every fucking black Panther and forget? And
23:57
I mean it's yeah, it's sad and it really is. And it's like
24:06
I really don't have the energy to give to it. But it's one of
24:08
those things like to me, like it's like my battle against the word content
24:12
where I'm like, oh my god, I'm not gonna win this one,
24:15
or like the your boy causing that, you know, doing a jail stream
24:21
and I'm just like m M, you know, but it's like, you
24:23
know, two hundred and fifty k viewers, so it's like, you know,
24:26
it's not me. It must be the children, you know, like,
24:29
what the fuck I don't you know, I must be wrong, right,
24:37
Like you know, as someone who's been to prison, you know,
24:41
I must be the idiot here. Yeah, like actual prison, you know
24:45
where we didn't have porn stars in the prison, you know, playing security
24:48
guards. You know, it's like I didn't. I must be wrong,
24:52
right. But it feels like sometimes you know, when you're just battling against
24:56
a sea of ignorance, and the ignorance is making all the money in the
24:59
world, understanding all the attention in the world. So you know, it's
25:03
like maybe we should start doing jail streams. I don't know, you know,
25:06
oh my god, maybe we should hate on the Marvels. You know.
25:12
Oh that shit's trying to suck it, you know, oh Marvel,
25:18
you know, or like we gotta do the video like I saw the you
25:19
know, this is the critical fucking drinker, you know, another you know
25:22
whatever dick. You know, I saw his video today. The Marvel you
25:26
know, Marvel is falling apart. You know. It's like now everybody's making
25:30
that video. You know, we don't have that video. That's our problem,
25:33
you know, our our our to this. But you know when I
25:36
do say, hey, this show could be better. What are you talking
25:38
about? But I've said that before we got to start. You know,
25:45
I gotta go all in on my slender. I can't be like actually appreciating
25:49
things and constructively criticizing that. You know. I try to be like,
25:53
fucking Loki's the worst show ever, bro Loki, man, But that's never
26:00
how I feel and that's never how we talk on here. So it's just
26:03
you know, but people see that. They you know, when you could
26:07
prontively criticize something, it's like you're just hating. I don't know, man,
26:14
I know this whole thing is like super bizarre to me. And I
26:17
mean it's always good to jump on like negative bad bandings, right and and
26:21
also maybe we are going to maybe we are going to have a disaster,
26:25
but like it's just weird or maybe it's gonna be great, but also it's
26:27
just weird. Just how it's being formed right now. It's very it's very
26:32
odd to me. It's like people people had like there were terrible, Like
26:37
you know, the first for three phases of the MCU is just perfection because
26:42
it wasn't there was a lot of mess. There was some mess. Someone
26:47
even said, why can't you know? Been your complaining? Why you know
26:49
about you want to wait for Why can't you wait for Kane like you waited
26:53
for Danos? And I'm like, we didn't really wait for Dano's, like,
26:56
but we know Dano's was coming, or maybe people will say you did
27:00
know for a while, but Dano's never appeared. We've already had more King
27:07
than we ever had a Thanos before Infinity War. This is facts. We
27:11
had a whole movie with King as the villain. This is facts. That
27:15
was my problem. I felt like they played King as the villain. Damn
27:18
man, they nerved him so damn bad. Where it doesn't matter if someone
27:25
said it best that the million Kings the only way they win is through a
27:29
war of attrition because they get served one on one Danos, if you got
27:33
a million Thanos as fuck, you know, you know, even without Infinity
27:38
Gone, a millionaire niggas, you know they're slapping your ass around a Millionai
27:44
the cats so this but a million Kings doesn't feel like a thread at all,
27:48
and they haven't made him feel like a threat, and now we've got
27:52
more time with him. And even though I really enjoyed Victor timely. I
27:56
don't. One king got carted off by a fucking red ant. I'm still
28:03
wondering how they're going to connect those million kings we saw with the king who
28:08
was imprisoned in aunt Man with Victor timely, with the Kings being unleashed at
28:15
the end of last season, and they still haven't shown up yet. But
28:19
I don't know how they're going to that. And when people say, oh,
28:22
you just want the answers, no, I don't. I just don't.
28:26
You don't see where it's happening. I don't. We're gonna find out
28:30
there's one more, two more episodes, one more episode. Sorry an apologies
28:33
early I said episode four. This was episode five. That's how messed up
28:37
in time I am right now. I mean, it's just it's weird because
28:42
like last episode literally ended with them all getting erased. This episode ended getting
28:49
them all erased and then him bringing it back. Yeah, so now you're
28:55
bringing it back to right before they got erased the first time you got Weini
28:59
twice. That means this whole episode and I can't all right, there was
29:03
some moments like I really liked, you know, Sylvie and the bar with
29:06
Loki when she's like, nigga, get over yourself. I really enjoyed that.
29:10
But then five minutes later, Sylvie's like, oh no, the world's
29:12
destroying, so fuck getting over myself. But you knew the world was destroying
29:17
before. What was going to happen? She really, well, this,
29:22
this written version of her thought, shit was sweet. Nigga. You know
29:25
McDonald's just vanished from your face five minutes before you got in the car with
29:29
her. Where did you thought getting a drinker? Don't fix that that McDonald's
29:33
hadn't vanished yet, No, it did. Remember, Okay, she comes
29:36
out of the car. When she comes out McDonald's, puts her ship on
29:38
the truck. It vanishes. She's like, oh, that's weird. Loki
29:42
appears behind her. Oh well, we saw it vanished. She saw that.
29:47
She turns around. She turns because she felt local. She turns around
29:51
her to Donald's and recognizes that it's drawing. And remember, she knows what's
29:55
happening. Are you sure McDonald's being gone because it was guine's the McDonald's.
30:03
Yes. The reason why I asked it because I swear on that scene when
30:07
Loki appeared out the time door that he was standing in front of the McDonald's
30:11
was the background. She walked out of McDonald's, puts her ship on the
30:15
truck. Yeah, he appears behind her, but before he appears the McDonald's
30:21
and Guinie, she sees it and then turns around to see him, and
30:23
it's like, look, I already know what's going on, dog Jed Tree.
30:27
So she already knew that I must have black because I don't remember McDonald
30:34
No, the McDonald's and Guene's and she sees it in Guenie because she turns
30:40
around looking for her fucking McDonald's and is dawn. But she knows, you
30:44
know, when it's gone, she knows what happens. She's like, oh
30:45
ship, you know, l Gueni, we're fucked, but let me go
30:48
get a drink and add like we're not fucked, and then let me go
30:52
back to you know, listen to some music like We're not fucked, to
30:56
this on the Nose song telling me we have nothing, and then my man
31:03
just trying to out run the lean greeniness, like when you do you all
31:08
black dude? Like you know, no, you run a music. You're
31:11
Italian, we in suit now you're not that he wrote his story fame,
31:15
you're out of here Green, I don't know. Yeah, it was.
31:21
It was an entertaining episode, as all of them have been. And yet
31:25
after five episodes, I still feel like we're pretty much at the end of
31:29
where we were in the maybe episode one. I'm still like, damn,
31:33
how they prune Ravana Like it was so unceremonious and I was like, wow,
31:37
you going. I was like, God, damn, I thought all
31:40
that. The thing is when she got pruned during episode four, this is
31:45
what I thought was going to happen. I'm not sure if I said that
31:47
last week. I thought she would come tumbling onto the bridge when he who
31:52
remains ran out there, because that's happened to Loki when Loki himself because he
32:00
was time slipping, and that's that was what that was the reasoning. Yep,
32:05
he got me there. Yeah, so I guess she did. That's
32:17
what understand Like, no, that's I mean. I was like, because
32:22
the moment she got proven, I was like, oh, well that was
32:24
unceremonious, but you know she'll be back five minutes later. And then when
32:28
she didn't come back, I was like, well that was everybody came back
32:31
to her son, Like, I guess she wasn't part of the squad like
32:37
that her temporal Aurora didn't need it. Yeah, I said to god dam,
32:42
they just make him ship on this on this season, like every omisode,
32:45
it's like it's like all the loom is the problem, now, temporar
32:49
is the problem. Now, Well we're riding this out like mcguffs after mcguffin,
32:58
Yes it is. And it's just like it's like we can still enjoy
33:00
the show for the entertainment asker, but to also be like, yo,
33:04
what the fuck like nigga that niggas introduce that niggas kids for them niggas to
33:07
get linguenie. He's just like, who's this badass kids? Like he ran
33:15
away that one kid and he was just like from you're felling like you know,
33:25
it's like you know what level of badass you are when you are playing
33:28
with magics like you're bad And then and then it's not just he was playing
33:30
with the matches. He said he stole them and he set his g I
33:34
Joe's on fire and then wait, but I'm trying to blow it's well don
33:38
Don was is his timeline name. He was talking about how the wife left
33:44
them, So I said whoa the wife left you and the kids? Mind?
33:46
I mean this niggas a bum ass? Do I mean STI jit salesman
33:51
like you leave his ass? Do this nigga can't even sell one of them
33:55
ship to a nigga. Niggas just coming here for donuts. Look I'm but
34:00
see. But also he was selling it in the year twenty twenty two.
34:04
All this this mind it like that and that's not Can we talk about really,
34:07
like the timelines in which they were placed and plugged out of? Yes,
34:10
and how these niggas all struggle? Why was case so Casey was in
34:15
Alcatraz and it was the sixties or I don't know. They really did a
34:22
shout out to the movie Plenty Eastwood to Stay from Alcatraz. So they did
34:24
a shot from it where immediately I knew they were in Alcatraz before it even
34:30
said it, just because I know they was in Alcatras. Yeah, that
34:31
the shot of them going through the pipes is from it Stay from Alcatraz.
34:36
So, oh, well, that's a nice that's a nice Easter egg.
34:39
I think I'm pretty sure it had to be. It looks similar if anything.
34:43
I mean, I just just the way it was. I knew right
34:45
away. I'm like the jail, so, I mean, I knew jail,
34:47
but it was like that's big jails, but big jails. Alcatraz they
34:52
had the whole at least kind of sort. They had the whole noir feel.
34:55
And when I see jam Moir, I'm like, Alcatraz, you ain't
35:01
picking enough state like you see yellow. It's Mexico, you know, Okay,
35:07
Womie Missocica I'm talking about that's a real name. But only some people
35:10
are gonna get that racism reference. I just knowed. I know B fifteen
35:15
she was in twenty twelve. If I'm not mistaken that she was a doctor.
35:20
She was the only one who is living again. I'm gonna say,
35:22
p of PD. What is it? Pediatrician? Thank you. I don't
35:27
know why I can't speak English, but a pediatrician. And I mean I
35:31
was just like, damn, y'all ripped her away from me and a doctor.
35:34
Enough and let's speak on that, because Okay, this is the thing,
35:37
Sylvie once again is one hundred percent correct. The TVA stole these niggas
35:42
from these timelines. This is we're all brainwashed to be put into this life.
35:46
So no Moby is Don. That is his fucked up life, but
35:51
those are his kids. You taking him away from this fucked up life of
35:53
his to make him a time cop. It's really some wild shit because you're
36:00
lonely, Like somebody needs to tell Loki about himself like Gomora told star Lord
36:07
about himself in Guardians three, because you know, somebody really needs to be
36:12
like, what is your fucking damage? Where you need me around m because
36:17
that's the problem, Like Selvie didn't say that enough in this episode. You
36:21
know, well, why are you gonna be the guy when he's down?
36:24
He was he's clearly all down bad, So like she don't she don't hate
36:29
the nigga? Why she gotta be? Because you're on him like being down
36:31
bad, and then you're ruining other people's lives by being down bad, like
36:37
dude had kids. And it's like at the end of it, it seems
36:42
to be him saying, no, I need to say the universe, which
36:44
it was all along, but you're hear this story and it ain't these other
36:49
people. It ain't Casey you mentioning that. Just remember a question I had
36:53
for you, because I want to ask you why does Don and why do
36:59
you why are you able to see him basically his like when Loki took him
37:04
from his timeline, how was Don able to see himself through the timeline?
37:09
Like I thought that was only really reserved for And I could be wrong.
37:14
I mean, someone explained, but I thought that was only reserved for Loki
37:16
because the only person we've been seeing see themselves over and over again has been
37:20
Loki. So then why when Loki was like, oh, Don, your
37:22
kids will be Don rightfully says I can't leave my fucking kids behind your fucking
37:27
badasses. Who's doing? Still there? And then now he's still there and
37:30
I'm like, wait, when did that happen? Like I just felt like
37:32
that that frustrated me. I'm not gonna hold you cause again, maybe I
37:36
missed something, but I just didn't understand how that just felt like them trying
37:40
to make it where Don could go on this adventure. Yeah, and it
37:45
was that made no sense If that was the case, I'm like, that
37:46
makes no sense. That was never established for his kids right in front of
37:51
him, right there and be like this this universe is done well well.
37:53
And that goes back to what I had said a couple of weeks ago,
37:55
which was if and I'm sorry to use children. If y'all have to get
38:00
families. Maybe I would have felt away when the timelines were being destroyed and
38:04
and and be fifteen was crying talking about billions is dying. I was just
38:07
like, it looks like good kids right in front of him right there.
38:12
That would have been scary. And I don't think you. I don't like
38:15
harm being done to children, fictional or not. It's just like, even
38:21
if it would have died, if it was imp like I didn't they imply
38:24
young people like being infinity faded, you know, popa red, So like,
38:28
I just feel like something towards that family said, like you said,
38:31
a family going around the corner, then you just see a bunch of spaghetti.
38:35
I don't know, I don't I don't know, but I just wanted
38:37
to ask you that because I wasn't sure where I missed that train of the
38:42
person being able to see themselves. I thought that was really just Loki.
38:45
That's really not giving don the character a choice though, But it would have
38:49
been great if they'd been like, you know, no, you gotta do
38:51
this. You're like, no, I gotta say my family speaking of speaking
38:54
a choice, that speech Loki gave back to Sylvia about wanting to get peoples
38:59
choice was bullshit. Yes, your speeches have been born. He love double
39:02
speaking like. I was just like, look, this don't make sense what
39:06
you're saying. I gotta put them back so they can see what their life
39:09
was before they was in their timeline, so they have a choice. What
39:14
are you talking about. There's no choice. You are making it for them.
39:16
You are literally actioning and affecting everything. She said it best. She's
39:22
like, dude, you are making them see something they can't unsee you.
39:25
That's not giving a person a choice. That's the matrix again. It's like,
39:30
do you want to take this, you want to go back to eating
39:32
your steak or do you you know now the steak is face. And I
39:37
was gonna say technically because someone could say, well, when he first when
39:39
he popped up with the time door for the third time or second time for
39:43
some people like and said hey, come with me if you want to live,
39:46
yep, maybe that was a choice that they could have made. They
39:49
could have been like fuck you cracking and kept it pushing right, or they
39:52
could have, you know, did what they did was just keep going.
39:55
And I'm just like, but would they really have a choice, like to
40:00
you to what silver Spoint says, once you show somebody some ship like that,
40:05
Like if that happened to you, would you be like, no,
40:07
I'm good, comes out out of I might be like, no, I'm
40:13
good, But at the same time, I'd be like, Yo, that's
40:14
some ship I never seen in my life. You would keep staying curious about
40:17
it and start searching. Yeah, because I'd never been able to leave that
40:20
down. A nigga opened up, Tom, It'll tell me fucking uppearing in
40:24
my womb, and then it was like, nah, I'm and I'm like,
40:29
now I'm good, and he stepped back into this energy door and vanished.
40:31
Nigga for the rest of my life. I think I was insane,
40:37
so I have to go through that door. Yes, I'd be like,
40:39
fuck it, I'm crazy right now, I'm going through this door. Just
40:42
I'm already crazy, or this is a dream. I'm going through the door,
40:45
you know, because there ain't no way this is really happening. Could
40:47
you imagine if a time door open, like on a platform in a sub
40:51
in a submit station here in New York. Honestly, so a lot of
40:54
us would be like, you know, what and nothing to do with me
40:58
today. Been pushing public, you would leave it alone because you'd be like
41:04
other people saw this ship. But in private, you wouldn't be able to
41:07
leave it alone because you'd be like, no, I'm going insane, so
41:10
I have to go through this. This is a dream, you know,
41:13
all those type things that start fucking with you. And that's what she That's
41:15
what he did to the people he brought him, you know, pretty much
41:19
private or like you know, Casey's on the but like Casey's sitting there just
41:22
out of prison on the beach and this nigga's open. You know, it's
41:24
like and a succession. I'm just saying, what are you gonna do?
41:28
Like, you're gonna go through it. He's they got nothing to lose.
41:32
He's a fucking criminal, yeah, allegedly because I don't know what he got
41:36
put up for, but he's doing he's doing criminals ship. Even when he
41:38
gets to that and he's still thinking horrible criminals shop, He's still talking about
41:43
getting to the bank, which is weird. I'm just like, out of
41:45
everything, bro, you can just go to a beach. It's like,
41:47
let's And it was just weird. Also because It's just like, when did
41:52
they telegraph that Casey was, you know, a jailbird, like they you
41:55
could sit in here and say they telegraphed be fifteen to be the type of
41:59
person wants to help people all the time. Okay, because he documents no
42:04
doctor makes sense don literally Mobius and from season one was talking about fucking jet
42:08
skis. Okay, got it. I mean Casey had everything in his desk.
42:12
He's a you know, he's a klepto because he had all the cinema
42:15
stuff. He was literally he wasn't taking it, like stealing it. What
42:20
do you mean? Literally he was confiscating from the people he was supposed to
42:23
confiscate from and put it in the desk. This feels like a lot of
42:27
you know, a lot of Season two feels like, you know, the
42:30
wrong extrapolation, you know, it feels like this is the wrongplation. Yet
42:34
we didn't talk about Obi though, so Obi was the closest to who he
42:38
is now. Like I said, they try to be cute with the whole
42:40
Oh I am a best time telling writer, you know what I mean?
42:43
Like because you know, with the whole TVA hand book whatever he came from
42:46
ninety four. He was plucked out in nineteen ninety four. I wanted to
42:50
talk really quick about the and I guess it doesn't matter. This is science
42:52
fiction, he said, right, I don't know he was married. He
42:57
was definitely later his wife left, well, he says his wife left them,
43:01
so because he was he spent eighteen months building a time pad. And
43:07
yes it was cute the way they made it very nineties with the giant modules
43:10
and all that stuff, but they have a tech in ninety four to do
43:14
that. I mean, he's a genius. Okay, you know he's mcgiver.
43:21
He can made that shit out of a banana and a paper clip.
43:23
Okay, you give him enough. Tom. You know what's his name?
43:27
I mean, you know it's the same. And it's funny because I didn't
43:29
even catch the reference. He's basically uh Rick and Morty who he's He's the
43:35
doc from Back to the Future, because they even made a reference in the
43:38
last episode. I completely forgot this, but it's a direct reference to Back
43:44
to the Future when he brings out the whole model and shows them the models
43:49
like, sorry, I didn't have the I only had one to the paint
43:52
and themes aren't built to scale m that's a reference from that's the Doc shows
43:57
when he tells Marty the whole plan to drive the car and have the lightning
44:01
bolt hit the thing. He pulls off a sheet and has a whole model
44:06
of the town and says, sorry, it's not built to steal and I'm
44:09
not time to put a coat of paint on it. Yeah, so that
44:14
was a direct reference. So he's basically that type of level genius, you
44:16
know, like how Doc built a time machine in a Dolorean in eighty eight,
44:22
right eighty six, I think, yeah, okay, yeah, it's
44:27
supposed to be that type of level. So yeah, I don't mind that.
44:29
It's just it is what it is. It took him eighteen months nineteen.
44:31
Now, I love him. So he was hilarious throughout this episode.
44:36
But again, you know that was in his life and you're turning them into
44:38
a time cop and that was well, he's the mechanic behind the time Wherever
44:45
they were was his same office, whatever it was. Was. Yes,
44:47
that I noticed that nothing for miles around because they built miles around him.
44:53
The whole TVA gets built around him. So yeah, I got all that.
44:58
That's cute. Like I said, it from early I just feel like
45:05
this show is going to end with a bunch of Knes beard and I'm supposed
45:08
to care. They just they just should not have done what they've done.
45:15
And a man three that that was That was the mistake. That was the
45:20
initial mistaken that I would really be hype when a bunch of Kanes appeared at
45:23
the end of the day. Yeah, yeah, even I think even if
45:25
even I seem like they should have appeared in episode one, in that episode
45:30
six, I would have been much more hype if I hadn't seen this man
45:34
get served by a bunch of ants. That correct, and that also leads
45:38
to the like the elephant in the room about what happens with this King character?
45:42
What's happening with Jonathan Major's he is going to trial this month? This
45:45
is November. I don't know when you listen, guys are listening to this,
45:49
but this is November twenty twenty three. Welcome to the timeslot. But
45:52
uh, he's going to trial this month for the case, right, And
45:57
there's there's so much stuff that happened. I would have respected Tarren Howard to
46:00
replace a mistake. Sorry, that was the tops talk about the multiverse for
46:14
the future you want to be. You've been saying Terrence Howard is going to
46:21
replace Try to say, may I'm back Mane, I'm back Mane. You
46:31
know that's just you know, somebody who serves lunch at the Marvel cafeteria told
46:37
me that, you know, they were talking about I just got a lot
46:46
of sources. I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do lunch ladies and
46:50
known, but yeah, I don't know. I I'm I'm rightfully confused,
46:55
still entertained by things like Loki, but also just like I just have so
47:00
many questions and again, I just don't like this whole this, this whole
47:06
I guess scenario right now that is being painted or this this thing that's being
47:09
painted that mark, like I get. You know, we talked about like
47:13
I feel like every few years has happened, and it happened before, like
47:15
what ten years ago or five years ago when they were like, oh,
47:17
superhero fatigue and blah blah blah blah. Then you know then Marvel, Marvel,
47:22
uh, Marvel is almost at Disney. But Marvel and DC did did
47:25
some good things, right, So I'm just like it's almost superhero fatigue or
47:30
it's just like bad storytelling fatigue, Yeah, which is all that's that's you
47:36
know, with any genre, and people had like you know, and even
47:38
in the same article they mentioned Guardians of Galaxy made a billion dollars and it
47:43
was you know, well received. Everyone loved it, you know, across
47:45
the Spider verse. Of course we already know. But this is the other
47:49
part where I always say, like, also say some of the media covers
47:52
is bullshit, because I'm like that. So remember how you just said.
47:53
This Variety article spawned other people to talk and seeing their two cents. Fine,
47:59
the Verge posted something, I think it was today. They posted something
48:01
where they used the image of Guardians of the Galaxy as the thumbnail and said,
48:06
uh, what is Marvel down? They say, Marvel down? Bag.
48:08
We talked like that. Hold on, let me see what exactly did
48:10
they say? They said, is it over? Is it over? Some
48:15
shit like that. I'm scrolling up right now in Marvel we no longer trust
48:22
Guardians of the Galaxy. With the Guardians with a picture of Nebulator holding the
48:28
life model of Peter Quilt, and I'm just like, man, I love
48:32
that movie. I watch it again. Oh it was fantastic, But I'm
48:35
like, why would you use a successful movie that thedn't say because it gets
48:38
people licking. They're like, no, I love that movie. What are
48:40
you talking about? Click? You know, it's all tape bright, it's
48:45
you know, it's it's And then the caption under the picture is the Guardians
48:49
once guaranteed a good time. Technically they still do, so what are you
48:52
talking about? But no, now they don't because there's no more Guardians than
48:53
James Junner's over there in DC. But what is it? There's nobody else
48:58
who could write a moment suspicious. Oh, this is a bit suspicious.
49:01
And then also just I guess as we close this out, this conversation is
49:06
just about Marvel, and this whole article is just like the things I'm like,
49:09
Yo, is this actually confirmed? Like they said how Nia da Costa?
49:14
How like they said that she and when the thing was still in post
49:17
production that she basically stepped away to start her new movie. That might be
49:22
that that seems confirmed that nobody was denying that one. That was more like,
49:25
yeah, that was more like that happened, okay, And yeah,
49:30
again from everything I've read and from people who are actually close in the industry,
49:34
there's like that's not ever a good thing. No, no, it's
49:37
not. No, it's not at all. But it also is it based
49:39
on things that were out of her control because they said they had a lot
49:42
of rewrites and they have some reshoots. Who knows if they took it out
49:45
of her hands by that point. But like I love Nia, and I
49:50
think that everyone deserves Like I think Nia is definitely doing what a lot of
49:53
white men do in the industry. It's like they do a small, little
49:58
movie and then they get these big movie movies, and a lot of times
50:00
the results ain't what we wanted, you know, Like Colin trefor Row did
50:05
it with Jurassic You know, I loved his little, small in dependent movie
50:07
and then them Jurassic movies are trash, you know, But he got the
50:10
chance to watch. Shouldn't he get the chance to do the same thing.
50:14
And now she's doing her new joint with Tesla, and I'm sure that's to
50:16
be cause that's who did her first movie, and so I'm sure that's back
50:20
to what she should be doing, you know, or what she wants to
50:22
be doing. Has this been sensationalized like this and other movies before, because
50:25
like now I'm kind of weird also weirded out, like like they even blaming
50:30
Neil like like whether like like even mentioning her like saying, oh, even
50:32
she walked away from the shit in She's even part of help was normally right.
50:38
I mean people talk about it. Colin Trevor Road is a great example.
50:42
That man had a Star Wars movie on the way and then when Jurassic
50:45
War and it wasn't in Jurassic he had this other film that was like his
50:49
because he did Jurassic and then he was like, let me do what I
50:51
want to do and they're like, yeah, do whatever you want. So
50:52
he did this other movie and it flopped out the fuck and they were like,
50:57
oh, well Star Wars you know, and so that was like,
51:00
you know, that was known. This movie flop, so they ain't Star
51:04
Wars from him, and it was a big thing. So not just her
51:06
people. You know, when you hot, you hot it. When you
51:07
ain't, they gonna give it to you. And that's the problem right now
51:10
Marvels is trending towards not hot, so they gonna give her the business.
51:15
And that's just how the business grows. Now we gonna, you know,
51:16
we're gonna see it next week and we'll be here to talk about it.
51:20
And I'm hoping for the best, because god damn it. You know,
51:22
I love me some Monica, and I love me some, you know,
51:27
Miss Marvel, and I even love me some you know, brelaunsing and everything.
51:30
So I'm I'm hoping. But you know, I've heard, I've not
51:34
heard, and the decision to hold the embargo until the last minute, when
51:40
I really don't think this is gonna be that impactful in the huge Marvel universe.
51:45
Like you said, we've that stares me. We've been in the game
51:47
for this long and we've seen it like when when they're embargos are long as
51:52
fuck because you know, like for for good reason, and when they're short
51:55
and what that typically spells, or when they're short for because it's like they
52:00
you know, like Infinity War. I saw, I think we saw that.
52:05
We saw that many weeks in advance, We saw that many why for
52:09
a minute on the Infinity War that was a very particular game was very short.
52:15
The end game was like two days before that movie came out, But
52:17
that could be the one we were at. Yeah, true, but most
52:21
people hadn't seen any game in game because they did the premiere, it was
52:23
very short because they knew they didn't want the spoilers getting out. That was
52:27
more where they didn't want getting out. But this, I don't know about
52:30
this. Don't feel like there's the spoiler movie. You know. It feels
52:35
like Captain Marvel is kind of Captain Marvel and yeah, and then they talk
52:38
about things like you know, virtual you know, the effects and animation and
52:44
ships being fucked up. And then and then the part I said, like
52:46
I said, there were some merits truth in the article in this low key
52:51
episode, there was some wet looking trip well, I mean, the string
52:54
Linguini was great, but like when he was on the beach for Casey,
52:58
I'm like, this is like I got a question for you, though,
53:02
do you think that John the Majors can return in the Court of public opinion?
53:09
Because it feels like this, dude, it's pretty much the wow but
53:15
doesn't but doesn't really feel that way, Like you said, the Court of
53:19
publican like the the fire was high when everything first broke right, this was
53:23
the summer. It still it feels pretty it is it though, because then
53:28
now you have a lot of the nace areas that they're you know, they're
53:30
talking about all the stuff that's happened with his ex girlfriend and all this.
53:34
You know, you have all these people. So I'm just like, I
53:37
don't know that there's a lot of there's a lot of cloudiness here for me.
53:39
I don't feel as I feel for me. I don't feel like it's
53:44
as strong as it was a few months back when people was just like hell
53:47
no. Now like people are like, well, like, I feel like
53:50
people are being in fee right now. I think you're right. And I
53:52
think it's also that like we live in that world like the whole you know,
53:57
recast the child thing where it's like, you know, it's seemed to
54:00
be loud, but in reality, you know what condor fervor makes a billion
54:04
dollars, then here, you know, it's not that loud. I don't
54:07
know. But as I mean, what his future looks like, I have
54:09
no clue. I think if I think if they come back with the Banger,
54:14
you know, people are still going to be, you know, down
54:16
for him, but would like it from in a good way, like or
54:21
you get down from a good way. But what but like that seemed like
54:23
they dropped his other movie from the schedule. You know, I mean,
54:27
his own his own representation dropped him. Mad people dropped him, and his
54:30
own camp dropped him because because there was apparently some veracity to to the things
54:36
that were being said and explain about his behavior. Yeah, because one of
54:39
the I don't know, Yeah, and I didn't notice they said that one
54:44
of his agencies dropped him before they arrests even happened. Yes, and that's
54:46
the one I'm that's why he was just a wild boy in general. And
54:51
and that's what I'm alluding to to knew I've heard, you know, because
54:55
that was the tweets came out when the ship first happened, and people who
54:59
knew him, it's like all I always do is a wild boy. And
55:01
then you know, someone shut them tweets down real quick. Marvel probably,
55:06
but you know, it was like the word was out on the street that
55:08
he was always a wild boy. I mean, most of these people ain't
55:15
shit. You know. That goes what I was saying. You know,
55:17
I have just like I don't know what's about to happen in this this season
55:22
or series finale. I don't know of Loki. I just have no idea
55:28
where Marvel is headed right now? Are they They're gonna be fine. Billions
55:32
of dollars doesn't just evaporate into thin air, right, and they've got,
55:37
you know, seventy eighty years a history of comics to Polon like it's it's
55:43
ridiculous. And for someone like me, like with the X Men, I
55:46
you know, I'm super hyped for it, but at the same time,
55:49
I really it doesn't matter to me as much because it's like, yeah,
55:52
that'll be dope, and however they do, it'll be dope. But I'm
55:55
I'm a comic head, you know, and there's so much dope shit going
55:58
on into the edh Men in the comics right now. I hope they would
56:00
do the CoA era type stuff. But if they don't, I still got
56:04
the comics. So it's like they're gonna be fine because I'm either way,
56:07
I'm gonna go see the X Men ship. Yeah, yeah, well I
56:09
think it'll do Coca and that I did, like the superhero industry, you
56:14
won't even call that it's not going anywhere. I'm excited to see what James
56:16
Gunn is doing with DC and like, man, yeah that man, you
56:22
know, I mean he did it with Guardians of the Galaxy, like and
56:24
he's talking about, you know, all start Superman being one of his inspirations
56:29
for Superman legacy. So he got my money right there. And then we've
56:32
got you know, beyond the Spider Verse, you know, coming out like
56:37
right, you know, Invincible season two. You know we've seen the first
56:40
few episodes of that is great. Yeah. Make sure, by the way,
56:44
make sure you go to YouTube our YouTube for for Ogners TV, because
56:47
we have that. We have a quick hit of me talking with Robert Kirkman
56:53
creator, talking with Simon and I don't want to mispronounce his last name,
56:58
but talking with Simon the showrunner, excuse me, the executive producer of the
57:01
show. So I just there's a lot, there's a lot coming down pipeline.
57:08
So you know it's not you know, they just a lot of good
57:13
things. That a lot of good things. Yeah, they say they got
57:15
Michael Green working on Blade. That's my boy. You know see how that
57:21
works out. I mean, he did Logan. You know, some of
57:22
some of the best superhero ship came from Michael, so you know he might
57:27
you know, bring that Logan touch to this one. I'm scared though,
57:29
because I said all this Hemmon and Han that that might be like Herschela might
57:35
be over that ship. I mean who I mean. At the same time,
57:37
as much as I love Myhrscheler, they can get another Blade, you
57:39
know, yeah, of course, But I'm just still saying I like Marshal,
57:43
but probably wasn't the best choice for Blade in the first place. You
57:47
know, to be dead ass, so that wasn't your fancast. Who was
57:51
your fancast? I don't know. It would be somebody younger and unknown,
57:53
somebody who can really whoop ass. You know. I need another Wesley.
57:57
I need it. I need somebody who can whoop ass like a trained martial
58:00
artists, you know, you know, someone who's like really doing that ship,
58:05
not someone who's going to step in and be like train me to be
58:07
this. I need someone who can do it, you know, really,
58:10
if you really want to do Blade the way I want to see it,
58:13
or I need someone. I think Maharschela can pull this off. But I'm
58:17
not sure they were going to go that route is to bring the horror,
58:21
you know, the horror. But I think he could do the physicality.
58:23
I don't I don't have any questions about I think no, I think he
58:25
could do It's in shape. Yeah, you know, it's cuts and it's
58:29
not not people are really fighting out there, and I think he can bring
58:32
the horror, so he would. He wasn't my choice. But when they
58:36
cashim, I'm like, oh, Ship, that's a great gut you know,
58:38
don't gonna be wrong. Yeah, you know, but it wasn't like
58:42
I wasn't thinking Myherschela's Blade, you know. That was I was thinking a
58:45
million other people. He could be, you know, Marshalla, could be
58:46
anybody. You know. He's a great actor. So this is Blade to
58:51
me is like, unless you we're gonna do some ill shit, I don't
58:53
feel like you Yeah no, no, no, not that bring it back.
58:59
But you just don't need a great actor, you know. This is
59:02
what I mean. Wesley's a great actor, and is right what you trying
59:06
to say that? I mean, speak plainly, sir, what are you
59:09
trying to say? Now? Wesley's a great actor. I don't think Blade
59:13
is a that deep a role written in the first three films. I think
59:17
Wesley put his all into it and made that. And I think you need
59:21
a great actor or at least somebody who commits to that, you know,
59:25
because you might not even need a great actor, because it's like someone like
59:28
Arnold, who isn't traditionally a great actor, was perfect for the role of
59:31
the Terminator where it was especially that's early where he's not great acting, but
59:36
it just fit him. Keanu is not a great after me, but Neo
59:40
fits him like a glove, you know, Bill and Ted fits him like
59:45
a glove. David Dukeveny is another one. He David Dukeoveny said this about
59:51
himself. He's like, I'm a one note actor, but I play that
59:52
note very well, you know. And that's like and he does the X
59:58
Files, you know, certain that other one Californication, like he can you
1:00:00
know, it's certain roles that are for him. And he's like, when
1:00:04
I step outside that lane, it don't work, don't right he knows,
1:00:06
he knows himself. Yeah, So it's like that's it could be somebody who's
1:00:09
a great actor who's committed, or it could be somebody who's not even a
1:00:13
great actor, but they just fit Blade, you know. And so just
1:00:16
I don't think Blade is that thing where you need Marshela. You know,
1:00:24
come on, this man is a great actor. You know, this is
1:00:28
Moonlight, this you know, this man can act like, yeah, okay,
1:00:31
that's fair, like Jonathan made. I mean like they've given Jonathan a
1:00:37
lot to do with he who remains and with and with time Lee. Now,
1:00:40
you know, I don't think they give Blade all that. You know,
1:00:44
Blade is more chopping heads off and you know, one liners like to
1:00:50
do there, like you know, that's the fun thing. King is really
1:00:54
giving this. You know, he different three different roles he's at so far
1:01:00
because you know, all three of these interpretations have been different interpretations, as
1:01:05
they should be. You you're literally playing unlimited manifestations of a character, unlimited power