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Ian Furness 10/28 H2: Stewart Mandel, the end of an era and the Daily Power Play with Bento. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Checking in with our guy,
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  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel. There's a lot, and I mean a lot,
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  Speaker 2: going on in college football. Firings and guys sitting out
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  Speaker 2: and whatever's going on. There's college football playoffs. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: as crazy a weekend last weekend as we had two
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago. But, man, there's no shortage of topics. And
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  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel is here for us from The Athletic and
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  Speaker 2: The Audible Podcast. Hello, sir. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, Ian?
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  Speaker 2: I'm very good. We're going to get to some specifics
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  Speaker 2: in a minute. Before I do that, let me... Because
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  Speaker 2: I think there's still some delusional fans out there of
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  Speaker 2: two Big Ten schools, I can think of Washington and Oregon,
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at you, that are looking around saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe if we just do this and win
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  Speaker 2: out and go for this. Let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any chance of a three-loss Big Ten team
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  Speaker 2: making the college football playoff?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so, because... it's not a very good
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  Speaker 3: conference this year for one thing. And there aren't a
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  Speaker 3: lot of chances to get top 25 wins. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I think if you look at some of the SEC
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  Speaker 3: teams that we're talking about, possibly getting in a nine
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  Speaker 3: and three, like a Texas, you know, they're going to
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  Speaker 3: get to the end of the season and have three
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  Speaker 3: or four top 25 wins, which is going to help
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  Speaker 3: division them. You don't really have that opportunity in the
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  Speaker 3: big 10 this year.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was wondering. Cause like, if you look
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  Speaker 2: at the SEC, it's, and the funny thing is like,
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  Speaker 2: when you look at the SEC right now, And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Kentucky is 7-1. Georgia is 6-1. But they both have
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  Speaker 2: a loss. Both their losses come in conference. Everybody else
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  Speaker 2: in the SEC that is a potential playoff team has
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  Speaker 2: at least two losses overall. I don't think Oklahoma's a
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  Speaker 2: playoff team, but they're at 4-3. But even if you
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  Speaker 2: go drop down, you've got, you know, Texas is 5-2,
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  Speaker 2: 2-2 in conference. Missouri, 5-2, 2-2 in conference overall. And
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  Speaker 2: then you go up to the Big Ten, and you've
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  Speaker 2: got to go pretty far down as you look at
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten standings. And Washington at 4-3, sure. Oregon
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  Speaker 2: sitting there with their 4-3 record. But all these other teams, 7-0, 6-1, 6-1, 6-1,
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  Speaker 2: it just feels like the path to the college. A
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  Speaker 2: 12-team playoff doesn't exist for teams in the Big Ten
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  Speaker 2: with three losses.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. One that might is Ohio State. Obviously, one of
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  Speaker 3: the losses was a close loss on the road to Texas.
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  Speaker 3: But you look at, for instance, even at UCLA, sitting
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  Speaker 3: there at 7-0, and you look at it and go, well,
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  Speaker 3: what's their best win? It was supposed to be at Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: but Oregon's kind of falling apart. Northwestern's sitting there at 6-1. Again,
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  Speaker 3: chance to beat Oregon this week doesn't mean necessarily what
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  Speaker 3: you thought it would before the season. So their best
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  Speaker 3: win is... I don't know. Pretty bad. Right. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we're at these, and I know people say like the SEC,
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  Speaker 3: it's like this big circular thing. This team is highly
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  Speaker 3: ranked and this team beats them. And now they're the
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  Speaker 3: talk of the town. But yeah, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 3: what we're seeing is with the nine games conference schedule,
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  Speaker 3: like they're not missing each other. They're all playing each other.
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  Speaker 3: All these contenders are playing each other. You know, a
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  Speaker 3: good example is Florida. Florida has two losses. Um, and
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  Speaker 3: one was a, was a pretty bad, um, actually they
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  Speaker 3: were both pretty bad losses, blowout losses at Missouri and
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  Speaker 3: South Carolina, but you know, they beat Ole Miss 52, 28.
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  Speaker 3: Ole Miss is one of the other contenders. They won
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  Speaker 3: at Texas. Texas is one of the other contenders. So
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  Speaker 3: you can see where these teams are able to build
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  Speaker 3: a resume that maybe some of the big 10 teams aren't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so Stuart Maddell joining us. So how does it
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  Speaker 2: change next year in the 2014 playoff? How does it
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  Speaker 2: change next year? How different is our conversation a year
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  Speaker 2: from now with these three lost teams?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that now it's three lost Big Ten versus four
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  Speaker 3: lost SEC.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think you have to take it
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  Speaker 3: year by year. I mean, the Big Ten was a
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  Speaker 3: very good conference the last two years. Obviously, they produced
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  Speaker 3: national champions. And I don't think there was this discrepancy necessarily.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have guessed before the season we'd be talking
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  Speaker 3: about comparing three lost SEC versus two lost Big Ten.
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  Speaker 3: One of the weirdest things about the Big Ten this
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  Speaker 3: year is all the quarterbacks got hurt. All the quarterbacks
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  Speaker 3: got hurt or they've been disappointing. And that really has affected, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the quality of play. You have, I feel like, a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of train wreck teams in the Big Ten this year.
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  Speaker 3: You know, everybody's like, what's wrong with Oregon? What's wrong
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  Speaker 3: with Penn State? What's wrong with Michigan? So it's just
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  Speaker 3: sometimes conference has a down year. I think we'll see
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  Speaker 3: what it's like once we get into it next year.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the committee to this point hasn't had
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  Speaker 3: to place a lot of emphasis on those spots 13
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  Speaker 3: and 24 when they do. I think you're going to
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  Speaker 3: see eight and four Big Ten and SEC teams getting
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  Speaker 3: in before nine and three ACC and Big 12 teams.
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  Speaker 2: So in the Big 12, Utah at 7-0, BYU 6-1
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  Speaker 2: after the loss to Central Florida. Arizona, which is an
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  Speaker 2: interesting one this week. Is Arizona-Texas Tech an elimination game
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  Speaker 2: for one or both teams?
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  Speaker 3: I think so, because they both have a conference loss already,
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  Speaker 3: and they don't have necessarily a big out-of-conference win like
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  Speaker 3: BYU does against Notre Dame. The team that's hanging around
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  Speaker 3: in there that nobody's talking about is Oklahoma State. They
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  Speaker 3: obviously started the year with a really bad loss. That
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  Speaker 3: offense is incredible, and if they can just get into
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  Speaker 3: the Big 12 title game, You know, they have a
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  Speaker 3: chance to win that game. They play Texas Tech at
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  Speaker 3: home in a couple weeks. So I feel like they
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  Speaker 3: have a chance to build a better resume than Texas
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  Speaker 3: Tech itself does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oklahoma State, I mean, Eric Morris done a hell
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  Speaker 2: of a job there. I mean, they're averaging, what is it,
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  Speaker 2: is it seven, how many points they average in a game?
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  Speaker 2: Almost high 30s a game or something, and that comes
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  Speaker 2: with that bad game that they had to start the
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  Speaker 2: season against Tulsa. It is Stuart Mandel joining us here.
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  Speaker 2: on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. I know you wrote about
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  Speaker 2: the mailbag you guys talked about on the Audible. Our
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  Speaker 2: friends up here, the Huskies, they love when misery happens
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  Speaker 2: to people down in Eugene. So what is going on
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  Speaker 2: with Dan Lanning and the Oregon Ducks right now? Firing
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  Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator. Dante Moore is out for the year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a catastrophic drop. But I'd also
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  Speaker 2: point out, I think, and you might have said this,
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  Speaker 2: this kind of happens every year. Sometimes teams and programs,
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  Speaker 2: even as good as they might be expected to be,
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  Speaker 2: have one-offs, right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, teams have down years. This one is particularly,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is the perfect storm where
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  Speaker 3: they were the number two team in the preseason poll
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  Speaker 3: as good as Oregon's been over the years. They'd never
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  Speaker 3: had that higher preseason ranking. And so this is the
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  Speaker 3: year where they're turning into a flop. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the offense, which has been so good for so long
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  Speaker 3: of Oregon is bad. Uh, there's no, there's no other
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  Speaker 3: way to say it. Um, But yeah, in a previous
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  Speaker 3: era of college football, it's like Oklahoma would have an
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  Speaker 3: eight under Bob Stoops would have an eight and four
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  Speaker 3: year here and there. You know, Eric Bryant used to
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  Speaker 3: have this kind of years and it was just kind
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  Speaker 3: of assumed that like that's going to happen every so often.
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  Speaker 2: Not anymore.
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  Speaker 3: If you're the preseason number two team and you start
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  Speaker 3: out four and three, there's a crisis in the program.
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  Speaker 3: That's why Dan Lanning felt the need to fire the
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  Speaker 3: offense coordinator in the middle of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Was that a bad hire in the first place?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think he made a risky move hiring somebody
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  Speaker 3: from within who doesn't have that great a resume. Because
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  Speaker 3: then when things start to fall apart, people go, how
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  Speaker 3: can you have hired a guy who was the OC
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  Speaker 3: at Rutgers 10 years ago? You know, something similar is
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  Speaker 3: happening at A & M. You know, they went to
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  Speaker 3: the playoff last year. They lost both coordinators. Mike Elko
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  Speaker 3: also promoted from within, including a first-time play caller at offense.
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  Speaker 3: And they're terrible. They're much worse than Oregon. So that's
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  Speaker 3: not the thing you should ever promote from within. There's
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  Speaker 3: been plenty of, Nick Saban did it. It works sometimes,
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  Speaker 3: but you better be awfully sure that this person is
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  Speaker 3: up to the job because, you know, again, big difference
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  Speaker 3: from a previous era. Oregon's spending $ 50 million on their roster.
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  Speaker 3: Texas A & M is probably spending close to that.
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  Speaker 3: And you hand over the keys to a first time
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  Speaker 3: play caller and it goes like this. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: people who don't get that money are pretty ticked.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about this, too, and we went through
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  Speaker 2: this a little bit here at the pro level with
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  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll. Um, but when you start losing quality assistance,
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  Speaker 2: it's just really hard Stewart to make up for it.
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, big time college football or the
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  Speaker 2: NFL as well. Pete had that problem. I think that
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  Speaker 2: was Pete's biggest downfall, to be honest with you at
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  Speaker 2: the end here in Seattle at the Seahawks, uh, lost
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  Speaker 2: too many good assistants. And a lot of those assistants
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  Speaker 2: were guys that went on to be head coaches and
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  Speaker 2: maybe should have just stayed as assistants, Dan Quinn, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and others, Gus Bradley. But, but, you know, you look
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  Speaker 2: through that, that's a, that's also probably a really interesting,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, uh, a talent maybe you could say, like
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned Nick Saban, like for, for coaches that are
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  Speaker 2: able to replace great assistants, that that's a hard thing
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  Speaker 2: to do. Not everybody's able to do it, but if
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  Speaker 2: you're able to do that, you can just kind of
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  Speaker 2: keep the bus humming.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Nick Saban did that at an unbelievable level for
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  Speaker 3: 14 years. I mean, part of being the pro the
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  Speaker 3: program and college football is everybody was trying to hire
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  Speaker 3: his assistants all the time. And yeah, I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: think that's hard. And yeah, And I think it's especially
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  Speaker 3: frustrating for people if you're... Oregon has the resources to
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  Speaker 3: go hire pretty much anybody, right? Obviously, Oregon was not
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  Speaker 3: going to hire Chip Kelly. But how is it that
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  Speaker 3: Northwestern went out and got a Chip Kelly and Oregon
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  Speaker 3: promoted from within when Oregon clearly has way more money
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  Speaker 3: to spend on assistant coaches? So it just really feels
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  Speaker 3: like a blown opportunity for them. And look, sometimes, before
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  Speaker 3: we go writing Oregon's OVID, sometimes... just a change makes
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  Speaker 3: a big difference. I've seen that in the last few years.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't think this would solve the problems, but sometimes
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  Speaker 3: you just need a fresh start or maybe the players
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  Speaker 3: weren't responding to that guy, but they respond to the
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  Speaker 3: next guy. It's probably too late for Oregon to save
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  Speaker 3: its playoff chances, but I think the season looks a
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  Speaker 3: lot different if they get to the end of the
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  Speaker 3: year and they're 9-3.
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  Speaker 2: What's Dante Moore's next step? Is it coming back? He's
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  Speaker 2: got a year of eligibility left. I mean, he was
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  Speaker 2: going to be a potential one or two overall pick
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL draft. He wasn't having a great season.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's out for the year. Does he come back
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  Speaker 2: to Oregon, do you think?
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  Speaker 3: I guess that depends on what the NFL people still
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  Speaker 3: think about him. And if he really was, you never know.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes we go by the mock drafts, the early, early
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  Speaker 3: mock drafts. Well, he was going to be the number
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  Speaker 3: two pick. Well, we don't really know if he was
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  Speaker 3: going to be. But if they do still think that
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  Speaker 3: highly of him, then how could he not turn pro, right?
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  Speaker 3: I think the question is, it's a bigger question if
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  Speaker 3: he is falling out of that kind of favor.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's like, yeah, I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 2: if they still think he's a top I don't know what,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the, what the cutoff point would
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  Speaker 2: be for him. You know, are you a top 10
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  Speaker 2: pick a top 15 pick, whatever it might be. And yeah, I'll,
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  Speaker 2: I'll stick around and, or, you know, I'll, I'll, it's
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  Speaker 2: time to leave, but I guess that's the question. You
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  Speaker 2: mentioned chip Kelly. You you're very, very, very familiar with
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  Speaker 2: that program at Northwestern. Well, is chip just content now
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  Speaker 2: to be a coordinator?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he wants to, more than anybody, I think,
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  Speaker 3: he just wants to watch film and game plan. He
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  Speaker 3: does not want to recruit. He does not want to
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  Speaker 3: go shake hands with donors. And I think he's found
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  Speaker 3: his comfort zone. And frankly, it was like that at
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State two years ago, too. Ryan Day basically just
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  Speaker 3: left him alone to... I mean, he would meet with
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback, and he meets with the quarterback recruits, but
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  Speaker 3: he's not pounding the pavement. So he's found a great
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  Speaker 3: setup there where he can do that.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way.
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  Speaker 3: One of the great X's and O's stories of the
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  Speaker 3: year is, and there was a good Wall Street Journal
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  Speaker 3: story about this today, is that he goes to a
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  Speaker 3: big-time job and he installs the wing feet from the
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  Speaker 3: old days. And it just totally, so far, has befuddled
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  Speaker 3: the opponents now. Like I said earlier, it hasn't been
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  Speaker 3: necessarily the greatest opponents. But say what you will about
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  Speaker 3: Chip Kelly's NFL coach, that's never gone particularly well. He
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  Speaker 3: keeps doing it in college.
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  Speaker 2: It's, it is amazing. And Aiden child's having a hell
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  Speaker 2: of a year. Uh, it feels like he's a much
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  Speaker 2: traveled guy, right? Uh, the Northwestern quarterback over the years, uh,
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  Speaker 2: from long beach. And, and, uh, you know, now he's, uh, he,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Oregon state, Michigan state now at Northwestern seems
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  Speaker 2: to find a home. What's, uh, what's Northwestern's prospects for
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  Speaker 2: a college football playoff berth at six and one.
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  Speaker 3: I think first, I mean, I think, you know, definitely
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  Speaker 3: need to win this game this weekend. Um, This is
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  Speaker 3: the thing about the Big Ten. It's too big a conference.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how you get these really uneven schedules. But
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  Speaker 3: they do play at Ohio State. I could not tell
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  Speaker 3: you the last time Northwestern won at Ohio State. Certainly
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  Speaker 3: not in the 30-something years since I went to school there.
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  Speaker 3: But that would be the defining, oh, yeah, maybe we
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  Speaker 3: really need to consider them for the playoff. But we're
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  Speaker 3: not there yet.
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  Speaker 2: No, probably a little ways away. It's Stuart Mendel, Athletic,
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  Speaker 2: Cody Campbell, good or bad for college football?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how anybody could say he's good for
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  Speaker 3: college football. I mean, on the one hand, I think
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  Speaker 3: one of the cool things about the NIL era is
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  Speaker 3: that a program like Texas Tech can make itself relevant
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: if they can raise that money. The problem is the
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: guy raising the money can't seem to– stop saying dumb
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: things publicly. Or, I mean, he just seems really determined
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: to be the face, not just of Texas tech, but
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: of college football running ads on TV on Saturdays for his,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: you know, favored congressional bills. You know, I don't think
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: he's doing Joey McGuire and his program any favors to
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: call them out after a bad loss, by the way,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: their first big 12 loss in over a year. And
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: I wonder how Texas Tech fans feel about him these days.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, they were extremely grateful to him to come
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: in and throw all this money at the roster and
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: help them become a Big 12 champion. Is he causing
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: more harm than help right now?
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. I think most fans, if you just
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: ask them, boy, would it be nice to have a
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: guy that's got that kind of money, that throws that
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: money at the program, then you don't have the donor
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: fatigue and the guilt trips that most fan bases get, Hey,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: you got to donate, you got to get, you got
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: to help pay these players, keep them here, blah, blah, blah.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: At the same time, I'll just go back in time. I,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: you know, Stuart, I got to, uh, to Salt Lake
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: city or, I mean, I left Salt Lake city to
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: come back home to the Northwest in the early two thousands.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: And I remember the first Oregon game I covered, uh,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: when I was working in Portland and the first, I
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: went down there. In fact, I was, of all things,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: this is name dropping. I'm not trying to, cause I
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: think he's kind of a doink sometimes, but Colin Cowart
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: and I go down there, and we're covering a game.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: The Ducks couldn't remember who they're playing. Going to the
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: postgame press conference, my first experience doing that, and Mike
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Bellotti's the coach. We walk in, and we sit down
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: for the news conference, the postgame coach's news conference. Now,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I just covered Lavelle Edwards and Ron McBride, and for years,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: even when I was working in Seattle, Don James, and
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm used to the media asking questions,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and I sit down, and Phil Knight gets the first
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: three questions to Mike Bellotti. Very uncomfortable, very strange, and
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: it was just weird. But Phil did that, but you
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: never really heard about Phil in the public eye. He
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: wouldn't make himself available. Now, we didn't have social media,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: but I always thought, okay, well, that's just Phil, and
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Phil pays for the program, so who cares? This guy
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: takes it to a whole different level than Phil Knight
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: ever did.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the worst nightmare for a coach because... Um,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: all coaches live in fear of like the overbearing booster.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Um, but I don't know that anybody's taking it to
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: quite this extreme. Usually you're right. Like usually they want
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to stay behind the scenes. Um, they don't want to
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: be out there broadcasting this stuff.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: No, it's very, it's, it's, it's a wild one.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Let me, uh, before we go, I've got, I'm just, again,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: we like train wrecks sometimes in college sports. And one
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: of those may be taking place. in LA. Ohio State
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: goes to USC this weekend. There's a lot of different scenarios.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: USC could pull an upset. Ohio State doesn't have their
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: number one quarterback. I don't even know what they're doing
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: at quarterback, I guess, because if it's the five-star, the three-star,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the guy that should be the backup, the guy that
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be the backup, whatever. But Ohio State goes to USC.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Let me give you one scenario. Ohio State goes there
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: and just blows the door off of USC without Julian Sand.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: What's the fallout? Anything?
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Anything?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's it for Lincoln Riley. I don't know if
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: they would fire him on the spot, but you know, that's, that's,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: he's already, I mean, that fan base is over him.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: There's no other way to say it. Like they've already
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: given up on him. I think beating Ohio state, even
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: without their starting quarterback buys you some time, but if
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: they get blown out, I mean, I don't, I don't
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: see him coming back from that.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just, that's, that's the thing that's, Yeah,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and they still have UCLA on the calendar, too. UCLA
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: should have an easy one this week. They've got Nevada
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: in a non-conference game as well. Miami goes to North Carolina.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Has Miami separated itself at all from the rest of
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: the country?
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: You know, there's one where like they're the last team
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: left that really hasn't gotten a good test to really
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: measure them. And they probably won't until the Notre Dame game.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: They've been awesome. I mean, people when they're saying like, oh,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I don't trust anybody. I mean, it's hard. They haven't
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: really done anything to say you shouldn't trust them. They
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: they their quarterback is completing 81 percent of his passes.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: But I'm always leery of getting too high on some
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: kind of team that hasn't. hasn't played anybody particularly good.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: And Florida State is three and four. I do think
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: they're better than their record, but they are three and four,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: and they took them to overtime. So I'm bullish on them,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: but I also... want to be a little cautious.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you should point out that Notre Dame
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: game is coming up here. I think it's next weekend,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, right? So with Notre Dame and Miami.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Last one for you. I still feel an affinity towards
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: my friends in Utah. Not all feel the same way. Well,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the BYU fans, maybe not for me. Not to the
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Pat McAfee level, although that was a little overblown. But
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Utah and BYU having to play the Holy War at
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: 10 a.m. Is this just something college fans are going
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: to have to get used to? If you're on the
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Mountain Time Zone or the West Coast, at some point
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: you're going to be playing these really early games to
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: appease the networks?
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: if you're good, the reason that game is being played
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: at that, at that hour is because it's a marquee
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: game that weekend and the, and the networks want to
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: show it. It's, it's, it's tough because I absolutely hate
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: it for the fans that are going to go to
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the game. But from a exposure standpoint on November 7th, it's,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Like you mentioned, Miami Notre Dame in primetime, it's Georgia
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss, it's LSU Alabama, it's Oregon Ohio State, even
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Oregon Nevada here. That's a game people are going to watch.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: From a TV exposure standpoint, this is the best possible
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: window they could be in, especially if that game's on ABC.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: You're going to get many millions of viewers, but obviously
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: it's inconvenient for the fans there. That's kind of the
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: eternal balance you have to strike with these kickoff times
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: because the TV networks call the shots. As I've said
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: many times, the schools could at any time take a
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: little less money for more autonomy over the schedules. They
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: never take less money. So here we are.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's never going to happen. Stuart Mandel, tell folks
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: about the Audible podcast. Great job, as always, that you
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: three do on that Audible podcast three times a week.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Three times a week. The live one is Sundays at
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: 8.30 a.m. Pacific on YouTube at Audible Show. And then
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: new episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays as well.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, my friend. We'll talk to you next week.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Ian.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: That's Stuart Mandel from The Athletic, The Edible Podcast. We'll
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: take a break, come back with more. Don't forget Factor
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Fiction 225 today. Corbin Smith at 2 o'clock, 93.3 KJFM.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Corbin will join us at 2 today. The captain will
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: be with 145. He'll be rolling in here. Took his
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: costume off for now. He needs to put it back on.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's a good look.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll do that for the YouTube audience.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Should I see if I can get him.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: To do it? He will. He will.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: I don't think you're even going to have to ask nicely.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Keep talking for a second. He's right here.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fine. Oh, he is? Okay, yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: I think you could open the door, honestly, and you
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: can just yell at him because it's bent in. He'll
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: do pretty much anything.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Anything we ask, that's why we love him. I mean,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: there's other reasons, but that's the big one.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: And he'll cooperate because, again, it's everything we love about
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: Mike Benton.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: He is a yes man.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: He's out there right now. Did he say yes? I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: think so. He's got his earbuds in. Cause there's like
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: 18 people around him. He's trying to prep for the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: game tonight. And it's like, you know, it's, you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: all the music nerds are out there right now. I
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: don't know what they're doing.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: So I said, we love him. Cause he's a yes man.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: So I feel like it's a chance for him to,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you know, be, be the captain. Yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: He loves to entertain the audience.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: So this story crossed today. I, this show is so
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: filled with like drama all the time with, I don't know.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Are you leaving? You're retiring. You're going, are we going,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: what are we doing? Uh, Charles Barkley has numerous times said,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I'm done with Inside the NBA when it's done. Let
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: me just put this bluntly. The best thing about the
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: NBA is Inside the NBA. Yes, agreed. The worst thing
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: about Inside the NBA is it moved to ESPN.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Right, also agreed.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I haven't outwatched it much. since they moved. But I
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: haven't watched the NBA. I do watch them in the playoffs.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: In fact, I always get bummed out every year because
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: usually they do one of the two conferences, finals. They're
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: in the East and then they're done for the finals.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And ESPN's, ABC's normal studio team is... Awful.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Boring.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Sleeper. All those things.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: All of the above.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Anyway, it was announced today that Ernie Johnson will retire
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: as the host of Inside the NBA after this season.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: This is last year. A couple things. Let's play his
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: comments and then comment on the other side.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Hey, everybody.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Ernie Johnson here. You know, I've been hosting Inside the
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: NBA for a long time. This is my 37th year.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: And I've long described it as a get-to job. Still
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: amazed that I get to do this for a living.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: As the years have gone by, and I turned 70
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: this past summer, folks have asked me, so how long
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: are you going to keep doing Inside? Well, I want
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: to take a couple of minutes of your time to
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: answer that. This will be my last season. Totally my decision.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: It's just time. It's been an honor to share so
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: many nights, decades actually, at the desk with my brothers, Kenny, Charles,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: and Shaq, and with our production crews who are so
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: talented and devoted. And I so appreciate the leadership at
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: TNT and ESPN for allowing the show to continue. So
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: why now? Total honesty here. I've always prided myself on
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: my preparation. The hours I put in every day getting
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: ready for the next show. I've always loved that part
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: of my job. But I've always vowed that if that
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: ever became more of a challenge than it is a joy,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: then I'll know it's time to step away. And now
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: after 37 seasons, it's time. And there's something else. And
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: I'll just call it a contributing factor. For nearly two
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: years now, I've dealt with heart issues. Had bypass surgery
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: 14 months ago. Still trying to get this thing to
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: beat exactly the way it should. And we're getting there.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel great. So this isn't a case
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: where my doctor said, you need.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: To stop working.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: It's nothing like that. But here's the deal. Going through
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: that has made me treasure even more every second with
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: my amazing wife of 44 years, Cheryl Ann, and being poppy.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: to our five grandchildren. So I just want to slow
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: down a bit, spend more time enjoying that. Just to
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: be clear, I'm not retiring, just cutting back. I'll still
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: do March Madness and other projects for TNT and CBS,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: and I've just started a new production company called 32
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Bowties geared toward telling feel-good stories in sports. So this
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: is by no means the end. It's just a turning
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: of the page. And I'll forever cherish every chapter we
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: have written with Inside the NBA. And lastly, I just
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: want to say thanks to you. Thanks for your loyalty,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: for your love, for your support. And on this day,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: for your understanding. We'll see you on TV tonight.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: The show started in 1990.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Which is crazy. I can't believe that it doesn't feel
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: like it's been on that long.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: It doesn't. I know for me, I kind of really
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: started feeling like it was a part of, as a
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: sports fan, our life in the late 90s. I mean,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: for me, when I was working in Salt Lake and
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I did a lot of work with the Jazz and
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: their broadcast, especially during the postseason, their normal guy, the
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: late Steve Klauke, would go. He did baseball, did minor
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: league baseball. And so hockey season would end. I would
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: slide into that chair, oftentimes do playoff games. And, uh,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: and some of the playoff coverage on the radio, John
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Lund was actually doing some stuff with us before he
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: left as well. And that's kind of when I first
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: started really getting into the, inside the NBA. In fact,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: this is dating myself as well. Back then we would,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I would make sure I put a VCR tape in
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: so I could tape inside the NBA. Cause it was
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the best post game and what have you, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: recap of things. So we would do that. Uh, And,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: you know, then over the years in Portland and other
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: places where, you know, the NBA was important to what
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I was doing, I always felt like it was a must-watch.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: And really not because, I mean, Charles doesn't know anything
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: about the NBA and players. That's readily apparent, but he's great.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: And his analysis and his entertainment value is a zillion
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: as high. Shaq, not too far behind.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Not quite as high of an entertainment value.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: And Kenny's the master of the obvious, but it was just,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: it was a must-watch. And it was a must watch
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: because of what Ernie just said. Ernie Johnson's preparation was
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: through the roof. So he carried the show in terms
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of the knowledge and the players and the numbers and
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the storylines. And those guys obviously took it to heights
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: that have never been seen in sports television.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: They got to just be themselves.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: They got to be themselves. And that's what made it
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: just a great show. Obviously, as years have gone by,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: we've lost the Sonics and whatever happens down the road.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: We're not going to have inside the NBA. We're not
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: going to have inside the NBA. Because it can't be
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the same without Ernie Johnson.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: And I would hope that nobody would try to replace him.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: That would be the worst job possible.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: And it's already been, it's already not what it was.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: So I think at that point, if you're going through
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: that many changes, it's just time to let it be
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: and let it go as awesome as it was.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah. And I think that's a great point, Ash,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: because first of all, you don't want to replace the guy.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: No.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: You don't want to be the man that replaces the man.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I thought the Mariners, you know, just kind of on
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: a similar path. When Dave Niehaus passed away, they waited
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: a year. They really brought in different people, different voices,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of old voices that had been here before.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: And before they brought, obviously, Goldie in. And Goldie was...
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: more or less replacing Riz, or Dave. Yeah, because Sims
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: was already here. Dave was already here. So they kind
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: of waited. And I think you're right. You can't replace
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Ernie Johnson because the chemistry he had, but more importantly,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the respect he had from those three guys on the set,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the respect that they gave him, was because of what
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: he just said, the preparation. Anybody who's done anything in
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: broadcasting knows, and probably in other walks of life, sometimes
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the preparation, sorry, Ross, I'm not going to say it,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: but the preparation for a lot of jobs is the
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: passion and the joy that you have for that job.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: You know, like I'll give you an example. Like for
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: a hockey game tonight, I've watched countless hours of Toronto
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Maple Leafs games and with roster in front of me
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: and notes in front of me. I really enjoy that.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Like I really do enjoy that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: And there was a time when I was doing minor
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: league play-by-play when I stepped away years ago where I
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: wasn't enjoying that. And I was like, okay, I just
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: can't do this. I can't do it at the same level.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: And I actually walked away and did something different. So
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I understand what he's saying. But when he says I'm
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: still going to do other things, I love the fact,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: you know, because we lost Brian Gumbel, but I love
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: the fact he's going to still be included on the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: coverage of the NCAA tournament on CBS and Turner Sports.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Does a great job with that. Preps his
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: ass off for He doesn't watch college all year because
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: he's got the NBA. So it's sad. And I think
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: the saddest thing for us out here in Seattle is
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: that we're going to get the NBA back at some point,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: and we're not going to have that. We're not going
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: to have that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And that's sad. That's really unfortunate because it was the
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: best thing and the best studio show out there. Finding
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: a good studio show is hard. It's really hard. I mean,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: there's three of them on every Sunday morning for the NFL.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you watch them.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I don't. It's just– Talking heads.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I need to watch Russ more this year. I
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: just haven't watched a lot of it. Hell, half the
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: time we've had a game, damn, at 6 o'clock in
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the morning. But what those guys did, gold standard. No
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: one's done it better. Probably will never be equaled. Good
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: for them along the way. I would just say TNT
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: has the hockey show with Paul Bissonette and Liam Hughes
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and all those guys. They do a really good job.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people say, well, they're trying
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: to be inside the NBA. They're not. They're not.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: No, but they do let their personality show through.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: And hockey is really bad at that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's great.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Really bad at that. I think it's great. And they
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: do a good job. And you can like biz, you can't,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Yeah. But they do a really good
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: job with it. All right. Tip of the cap to
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Ernie Johnson. The captain will join us speaking of hockey next.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Down the shot, he scores! Shots and scores!
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: 3-1 Seattle!
• 32:38
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• 32:42
  Speaker 3: The Power Play. Crackin' Hockey, baby!
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Montour, off the bench, scores!
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: On your home for the Kraken, Sports Radio 93.3, KJR-FM. Hey, hey,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: what do you say?
• 32:54
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• 32:58
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• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Say it right.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Score! Now, your daily look at the National Hockey League
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and the Seattle.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Kraken with Ian Furness.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Power!
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm just going to tell you right now,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: get to a YouTube channel if you can, our YouTube channel, YouTube.com.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: You can watch our live stream here on 93.3 KJR FM.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: And why do I say that right now? You don't
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: want to look at me. Well, you can look at Ashley.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: That's a lot better looking at me. Or what I've
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: got in here right now. Ash, what do you think?
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: I think it's terrifying.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Well, ladies and gentlemen, we're the Hanson brothers. Which Hanson
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: are you?
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: Dave's a killer.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Dave's a killer. I have no idea. Hi, Ian. Buy
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: me a soda after the game? Yeah, buy me a soda. Hey, yes,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: we'll have some fun. If you're at the game tonight
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: at Climate Pledge Arena, make sure you swing on by
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Section 20, the Coors Light area there where the studio
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: is set up for the captain himself, Mike Benton. Bento,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: we call him. The captain is there. He will be
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: in full gear. Charlestown Chief Slapshot Mode. You look great.
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: I have no idea how I'm going to get through
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: this pregame intermission.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: And postgame show tonight. You look fantastic.
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: Without laughing at myself 26 times.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: You look great. But we'll do it, though. You look fantastic, buddy.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: You look fantastic. I mean, honestly, get to the YouTube
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: right now if you can. Check out the captain. I'm
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: just like, I don't know. Make sure we're seeing you. Yeah,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I got people. Now all of a sudden, people are
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: tuning in right now to check it out.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: Here, I'm going to turn your camera off so it's
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: just Bento.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: What would we do without YouTube in 2026? I'd probably
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: have a lot more... This is the exact reason why.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: Probably a lot more productive time on our hands. So, yes,
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: he will be decked out in full Charlestown Chiefs mode.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: In addition to that, you'll be doing the pregame, intermission, postgame.
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: Attempting to. What are we looking at tonight? Bobby McMahon
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: versus the Leafs.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Bobby McMahon. How do we go in this direction?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Well....
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: You look around at this place and think, you think
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: they show Speed Racer here? Well, Bobby McMahon's got a
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: little something more than just trying to show the fighting
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: spirit against the Leafs. He's trying to get out of
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: a five-game goal-scoring drought. I can't believe we're talking about this,
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: but I don't think it's that bothersome here for the
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: fact where you take the Minnesota game in, you saw
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: this as kind of a throwaway.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, the.
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: Wilder dialed in like a cup contender right now, and
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: you won't be facing them 84 games out of the
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: entire year. Beyond that, Go back to Utah, go back
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: to Detroit, take the third period, you know, meltdowns or
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: near meltdowns out. They've been playing some pretty solid hockey
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: for the first 40 minutes, and Lane Lambert is really
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: trying to stress this is what it is all about here.
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: So I think for me, ultimately, the big, big thing
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: to prove for tonight is can you get back on
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: the tracks like you saw against Utah and against Detroit? Now,
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: I think folks may be saying, well, don't cough a
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: third period lead up. Well, we had a good chat
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: with Lane about this, and it's something that I've said
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: to in the postgame show. Teams who score the first
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: goal of the game and get leads about roughly 66%
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: of the time, a little above that Hugh Millen-like numbers here,
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: are more likely to win an NHL game in this
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: day and age. And therefore, it's a lot easier to
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: grab a lead early. And to hold off a team
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: that's chasing you down and to be the one trying
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: to chase over and over and over. Because unlike what
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: Pete Carroll said, you cannot win a game in the
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: fourth quarter. You cannot always win a game in the
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: third period.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what you just said. You can't concentrate.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: On anything other than that.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking.
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: You're grabbing the phone all over the place, taking pictures
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: and everything.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite movies of all time, buddy. You
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: are royally distracted. I'm so distracted.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: Are you going to get this image out of your
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: head for 7 o'clock tonight?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: And luckily, I can't directly see into the radio booth
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: from where I'm at in the TV booth. So I
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: won't be looking over at the other two knuckleheads. You're
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: big enough you can peer over. I just can't do
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: it because I'll go crazy. YouTube.com, KJR Livestream. You look awesome.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: If you're at the game, it is Section 20, right?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Section 20. I want her down there. Two games ago,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: we had the national game. I wandered down there and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: saw it. Yeah, that was before the other stuff happened,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: but I was down. There's a lot going on down
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: there for you. Oh, my goodness. There's going to be
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: a lot more going on. Do you have security tonight?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I hope I do.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I hope I do. Like, Softie always comes in at
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: crosstalk and goes, like, you know, he throws these lines
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: at movies at me, and I know none of them.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: That's the one movie, if he threw a line at me,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I would know. Yeah. I would know all the lines.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: I've even seen it once. It's... Such a good move.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: By the way, it's my first time also wearing long
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: hair in my entire life.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: You've never had long hair?
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I never.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? I have no idea how you
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: did it. You're a hockey guy. I have no idea how.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Wow. Okay.
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: You don't have to have always long hair. I remember
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: actually about 25 years ago, we had the whole bleach
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: blonde craze going.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't go through that. It infiltrated the NHL.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I almost did it. Yeah, I didn't do that, nor
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: would I.
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: I'm lifeier to go bleach blonde than I am to
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: grow long hair. I don't have a lot going for me.
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: Just stick with what you got. Yeah, I don't have
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: a lot going for me, but hair is the one thing,
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: so I'll stick with what I got in that regard.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: The real fast in all seriousness, the atmosphere tonight, I'm
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: excited to see what it's like for those who don't
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: like Toronto truly is the hockey universe is centered around Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: It just is. And all things NHL, everything goes through
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Canada or it goes through Toronto, a big, huge media,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you know, contingent follows them around huge fan base. It is,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: that is across not just Canada, but across North America and,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and it's not Blue Jays-like because Vancouver has a team,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Edmonton has a team, Calgary has a team, places that
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: are close by in Western Canada. They seem 10 times over.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: But I think you'll have a lot of Toronto fans
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: in the stands tonight, so just be prepared for that.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Seattle Kraken fans, get there, be loud, and have fun.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: But what do you think the atmosphere is going to
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: be like?
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: I think it's going to be electrifying, especially if they
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: get the first goal, the game first five minutes.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing also.
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: You remember about two weeks ago when we had this
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: whole talk about Numbers declining attendance-wise in Vegas and Toronto
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: was there. What's the conversation going to be like if
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: the Krakens sell out again like they always have with
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: the Leafs on a weeknight?
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: That would be awesome. Want to compare? Yeah, well, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: we haven't been to the Stanley Cup Final here either, so.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: which is really good. You look great. Thank you. Yeah,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I love the glasses.
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: I have zero clue how I'm going to get through
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: this pregame show without laughing.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I love the glasses with the tape in the middle.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: That is absolutely so good.
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: And to refresh also, I used to have a missing tooth.
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: I wore a denture. Can you take it out now?
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I have a full-blown implant here.
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: The only reason this thing is coming out is either A,
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: I go to the dentist and they yank it out,
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: or B, you punch me right in the face.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Who kicked your ass and knocked your tooth out, by
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: the way? I forget.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: What if he was like, oh, I actually just was
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: walking in the kitchen and I ran into the fridge.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: That's probably what it was, but he's not going to
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: admit that right now because he's a handsome brother. I mean,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: you can't admit that right now.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Putting on the foil every game. Old-time hockey!
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: Like Eddie Shore!
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: They should have put Curtis Douglas in tonight with this attitude.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: All right, that's it. That's the captain. He'll be on
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: with you at 6.30 tonight. We'll take a break. Corbin
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Smith talking Seahawks and quitting. And don't call me Dr.
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: Hook for nothing!
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're the best.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I love you. The line I wanted to say I
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: can't say when they were giving Hanrahan a hard time
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: about his wife. I can't either. Anyway, we're good. We'll
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: check in with Corbin next.