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Welcome to the ranch Radio podcast.
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I'm very happy to announce that the Rancher Radio podcast is now
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expanding to tune. You unique episodes per week on
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Sundays will showcase a Urantia paper of the week as suggested
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by you. And then on Thursday we will
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have our topics and guest segment.
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So to new segments per week, coming up on the ranch Radio
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podcast and coming up next. Gabriel, Ryan Berg and his team
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to talk more about the exciting project at hand.
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At Jesus metaverse dot-org in a moment.
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Imagine being able to cross-reference all of the
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wonderful and Meaningful events in Jesus life even the words he
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spoke on subjects like raising kids, treating your spouse,
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treating your government, and what if you could connect the
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people he met and the impact he had on their lives and how he
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changed the world? Wouldn't that be something truly
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important to have at your fingertips?
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Something that would compel people to learn more about the
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son of Promise. Well, this is what the Jesus
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metaverse is all about. And last time we caught up with
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Gabriel, Ryan Berg, we learned about the people behind the
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scenes, Needs joining us today Gabriel and Sandra nyberg Susan
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islands and Mike Robinson, all of whom are students of the
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Rancho book and are helping to connect the dots in the Jesus
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metaphors here on the ranch Radio podcast.
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So now we're going to continue our discussion here on Urantia
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book radio with Gabriel and a continuation of this enormously
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important project. Called the Jesus metaverse.
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It is a full Hands-On approach to taking the fourth part of the
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ranch a book and making it come alive.
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And now we're going to continue on with more folks who have
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joined us, who are contributing in the center for Unity project,
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the Jesus metaverse and all that, it entails talked a little
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bit about the purpose. How you came to to the
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realization, the idea just came out of you and you ran with it
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and you've been You would people, Jim English, you
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mentioned, who was a big part? Also, Gary and your relationship
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with Gary and Lisa and then we met Andre yesterday, we've met
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so many good people that are contributing something to this
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enormous project. Please introduce me to your new
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people that are part of this conversation today.
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So, Sandra is my beloved wife and the around revoke actually
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put us together. We wouldn't be here if the
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Archer book didn't exist. Well, we wouldn't be together.
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Mike is is our baby Benjamin. He's the last one to join this
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team about two or three months ago.
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Susan is the wife of Rick and basically Susan and Rick
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probably a year ago already I approached them several times
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and then a year ago I think both of them.
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Join Rick Moore's, an executive position and Susan she's in
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charge of our newsletter. And she's also our head data
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curator, which is what we're going to talk about today.
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The data curation is, I say curation because it's almost
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like an artistic Endeavor where we are going through part 4 of
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Urantia book and we're getting all this information.
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Nation into a computer model. It's very creative.
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It's not it's technical, but it's also very, very creative.
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So, this is the data curation team.
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Let's take a segment of the book that people may be familiar with
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that has to do with Mary and Joseph and see if I can find it
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here because in this particular paper from the fourth part of
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the book, it's describing the Earth parents of Jesus and the
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selection process. Is that was involved, so it's
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just one paragraph for 22 section.
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One paragraph. One Joseph.
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The human father of Jesus was a Hebrew of the Hebrews, albeit.
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He carried, many non Jewish racial strains which had been
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added to his ancestral tree, from time to time by the female
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Lions of his progenitor, 's, the ancestry of the father of Jesus
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went back to the days of Abraham and through this venerable
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patriarch to the earlier times or the earlier lines of
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inheritance leading to the Aryans and no tights and through
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the southern tribes of the ancient Blue Man, 2, andon and
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fonta. So I don't have to continue but
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that makes a couple of different observations for me is and then
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I'll throw it to you. So therein lies.
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A lot of information that is not currently available.
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It's not in Scripture that I don't know if they could do they
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is anybody on familiar enough with scripture to know that
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there's that much information about Joseph?
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So how are you going to take that element?
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And how do you take that and put it in the metaverse?
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So on our website you can see. And actually on this latest
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newsletter we published a piece that explains this data model
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and we always put videos. And so if you go to our website
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and you go to the blog, you'll be able to find this information
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and perhaps We'll add a lake. The key here is you can think of
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this exercise as as taking a marker, like a higher better and
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looking at a printed version of the Rancho book and asking
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yourself key questions. So for example, if we're reading
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122 11, which I think is what you just read.
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Yeah. We are looking to highlight with
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the marker, you know, allegorically.
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Every person. So obviously we see here Joseph.
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We see the name Jesus. We see in this case Abraham, we
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see David and so long we see and Odin Fanta.
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So these are all the people that appear in this paragraph so we
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won't hide light them. Then if in this paragraph, We
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saw a date something, like, sometimes the Rancher book gives
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us a year. This thing happened on this year
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or sometimes this thing happened in November of this year.
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But sometimes there's an actual day in the month and the year.
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And in, you know, the last week from Palm Sunday to Easter
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Sunday, you have sometimes hours, right?
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We have a very, very fine resolution of time.
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So if there's a time stamp a date, We call this a time, then
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you will mark it. Okay, then there's places in
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this particular paragraph. They talk about Sumerians and no
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tights. That's like a very broad brush.
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But if they were mentioned Jerusalem on Nazareth or
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Capernaum, or any other place, we would mark it down.
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So let me retrace, we're talking about people, we're talking
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about times, we're talking about places, The next thing that we
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will do is in this is not marking down.
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This is really the creative aspect of this work is what is
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it that this for a graph is trying to tell us So we're
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learning something about Joseph, we're learning something about
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his ancestry. How racially diverse his
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ancestry was going all the way back to the original Youmans
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under and Fanta. So obviously, there is a topic
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here that we can delineate and say what was Jesus ancestry
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know? What was this lineage, so to
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speak. So this is a, this is now a
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topic and we can make up as many topics as we want, I keep
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telling my team, this team that this data model that we're
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building, Is basically Unlimited in size, it will keep growing.
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Some aspect of it are limited. If you sit in front of your
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Ranch, a book and you're looking for names of people eventually
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you will get them all and there's a finite number of
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names. I don't know how many but you
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know, several hundreds or several thousands and you will
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finish and you will get them all same four locations and same
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four times, but topics is really an unlimited potential.
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Because somebody might read this paragraph and say, okay, I want
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to, I'm interested in the lineage of Jesus, but somebody
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else might say, okay? What was how the Joseph's
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cultural background effect, Jesus is upbringing and maybe
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some some piece of information in the ancestry of Joseph might
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be relevant to that topic so you can see this is really limited
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only by our imagination. Ation and I think people 20
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years from now 50 years from now.
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And especially when more people read you're untouchable, they
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will get more information out of this.
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So this data model will keep growing.
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So I hope I answered your question.
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You basically take a marker and you're looking for people places
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times but are you also looking for higher higher level
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insights? Know what is it that the
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revelator's are trying to tell us about Jesus about his
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teachings about his family, about his relationships?
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Those are topics. One more thing we have is
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events, you know, something happened.
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Then we will say this happened and then we will detail
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everything that happened who participated in where that
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happened. That when that happened.
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So later we can ask questions. Like, you know, show me
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everything that happened in Jerusalem, and of course, many
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things happen in Jerusalem. But what if you could see in one
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place, a list of everything that happened in Jerusalem that is
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documented in your own checkbook.
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That's quite interesting. Resting you know and you can see
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it over time on the timeline. So if we connect this
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information for events, then we'll be able to ask this data
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model questions like that. It sounds like an excellent
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development of a research tool because if you were doing
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research on any number of data points, this would easily be
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coalesce them and make them easier to much easier to find.
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We approach on your Rancho readers and reclined had a
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discussion with a pastor. At least close to Rick and Susan
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from the US. And he was telling him about the
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metaverse and this pastor gives us a sermon every Sunday.
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Right? Says, wow.
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I have a library full of books, but I cannot find anything.
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And if I had it to like this, I could find different topics and
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I could just write my sermon based on this information.
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So you're right, it's good, be an amazing research tool for
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Everything Jesus, basically also, it does it.
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This this kind of Caught my attention in a way you're sort
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of validating their Ranch a book, aren't you?
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Because what you're doing is showing how consistent it is.
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If you're connecting all these dots that sort of indicates that
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the dots are connectable and they're not inconsistent, right?
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There's many layers of information data and insights in
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part 4 of your function book in this exercise.
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We're right now, limiting to part 4, but somebody might come
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and say, oh, I want to do Do this to the entire entry book
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and it's a great thing to do when that person comes, I will
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teach them everything and give him all the tools.
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But we really focused on part for right now.
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And what Gary said yesterday? He said this is a nonlinear way
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of studying your actual book and the life of Jesus.
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Because if you're asking for example, what was Jesus thinking
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about parenting. So there are many episodes you
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can you can look into and then They're not on the same time in
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the same place and not in the same paper so to speak because
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you run your book is linear in time, right?
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But if you now want to look at something that has you can jump
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back and forth. This is what we're doing, we're
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connecting the dots. So this team is responsible for
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eliciting, these topics. And then also saying okay what
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is this connected to to know? Parenting is connected to him
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being a parent to his teachers but also him thinking about
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About John Mark and his parenting and comparing it to
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the other person. And I mean, there were many
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instances, I don't remember them.
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All right, now that we learn something about what Jesus was
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thinking about, child rearing, how to deal with conflicts, how
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he dealt with his own conflicts. So we have to go through the
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entire part for to get all this information.
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This is what we're doing, we're going through entire part for
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many, many, many times. And every time we looking for,
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Something else. But we're doing this in a
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methodical way and we have a process that we've been
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developing and basically perfecting over this last year
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that allows us to get this information and connected.
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So there's quite a few Innovations here.
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Not the least is just doing this thing and putting it out in the
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public, but also the process that we've been using is quite
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quite creative and quite Innovative.
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Do you start from a certain Paper and just work your way
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through all the way to the end? How does that process?
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Us work all dressed up for you. We began before going through
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the untold story of Jesus. So we picked out events.
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Basically we started with that were happening in that book and
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then those things would be called nodes as well as a person
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or an event or topic or anything like that.
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And they have connectors in the tool that we use which is the
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Are table that Gabriel discovered just about at the
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perfect time when we began this work and it really is useful.
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And it has a way of connecting, all of the nodes to other nodes,
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through through, kind of great described in or her dad, or the
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relationship nodes, which show that between people and the
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relationships, and the events and topics.
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So it all connects into this big massive Of connected information
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in regards to the Daily work. We've already gone through the
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bat book and then the part for be Rancher book and now it's
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adding extra things that maybe we're missed through the first
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pass. And making sure connections are
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are accurate and that the data is thorough.
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And you know, that's the phase where even now my Is finishing
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up what I think, the very last papers of part 4 of your answer
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book. He can tell you more about that
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but it's basically adding and making sure all that is correct
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and thorough and complete. Now, I can share briefly from My
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Lens as well, because I have had the benefit of all this
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foundational work done. As I came into the project and
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what's fascinating about it is taking ownership of a Particular
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paper, and then looking for events and topics and scanning
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what is already in the the data tables in the metaverse and
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looking for those connectors and seeing that as Gabriel
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mentioned, some things are brought up in multiple papers in
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different areas of the book. So I'll search and find that I
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can add into a given topic or a given events or add some detail,
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maybe a date, that was missing and it adds to that internal
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congruence. I think that we talked about
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Before, which is the consistency of the book and the ability to
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find contributions to topics that are scattered throughout
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the book that continue to add in and reinforce what has already
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been said. And, and I'm seeing that kind of
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bear fruit as I'm doing these final passes on some of the
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papers. And some of the topics are very
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exciting and the one you brought up about the ancestry of Jesus
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was one topic that I actually put in because I was interested.
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Stood in that particular topic. Rick and I had seen a
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presentation on the History Channel where they had actually
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done DNA research on the Shroud of Turin and of course, the
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people that had the research time, we're hoping that it would
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be the blood of Jesus on there, but they came to the conclusion.
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When the DNA came back that the blood that was on in the DNA, on
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the shroud, It came from Egypt and so they ruled out that it
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could have belonged to Jesus. But you know and that's one
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presentation that we added into the ancestry so that people
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could watch that. But the Curious Thing about it
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was from our information from the Rancher book knowing that
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Abraham was an ancestor of Joseph, and that Joseph's family
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had come from Egypt. And then when Mary and Joseph
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were escaping Herod, they went into Egypt to try it.
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We're staying in the palatial home.
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And they had connections to actually the descendants of Vic
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Naughton. There was some definite
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aristocracy there and we know that Abraham's grandson was sold
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into slavery into Egypt, in his name was Joseph, but one that we
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know from the Bible as the one with the coat of many colors
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that Joseph, the one they made the plays.
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Yeah. The one who made the play on who
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was actually a grandson of Joseph for Abraham.
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He made a name for himself in Egypt and actually lived in and
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worked with the Pharaoh, and was the one who had the wisdom to
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save food aside because he had a sense that there was going to be
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a famine and he was famous for that.
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So that family was well established in Egypt and so
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when, you know, Mary and Joseph went and took Jesus there.
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They wanted them to stay because they believed Jesus was going to
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be his Promise. So there's quite a history there
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when you put the dots together and that information, is it
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possible that the Shroud net gives some credibility to what
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they ruled out as being impossible.
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That's amazing. The people in The History
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Channel said, well I guess we were wrong but yet they're not
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wrong and the Rancher book sort of validates their own research
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but they just don't know it. That's an amazing thing.
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All right, so I got another one for Are you let's let's tackle
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another passage if you don't mind.
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This one is paper. 171 Section, 3, paragraph 3.
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When Jesus is about the blind man.
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So he says when Jesus heard that the blind man crying out, he
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stood still. And when he saw him, he said to
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his friends, bring the man to me and they went over to
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Bartimaeus. Saying be of good cheer come
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with us for the master calls for you.
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I hope I'm saying it right Bartimaeus now.
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So there's a section that in again, involves a little detail
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that you might not find anywhere else on that.
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How would you tackle that particular section?
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You know I can share it at a high level so that's an event
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for us that the actual healing and so that's how we first
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approached it. Meaning that we know that we
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know what transpired we know, And it transpired, we know who
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was involved and we know where it occurred in this case as
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well. And so that's that's kind of the
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broader part of the event record for us.
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Now, is he the same gentleman that appeared in court later and
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said, all I know is I can see is that the man Bartimaeus?
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But history doesn't know his name but now they will that's
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amazing that your cataloging Jesus is life.
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So, how far are we along? There's another another level to
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this Jesus met Bartimaeus once. Just once for a few minutes.
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We don't know any other meeting they had so I'm assuming that's
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the only one they had but you know, we don't know.
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It's pretty evident. They didn't have a relationship,
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so it was like a happenstance meeting or what I say as he
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passed by. But how many people in diringer
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book are mentioned along the same category as he passed by.
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So, the to courtesans, and the young man who was afraid and the
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husband, and the wife in Toronto and this and this and the woman
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who touched his gown and he said, I perceive life is going
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out of me and all the people here You many others, Zacchaeus
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the tax collector from Jericho so we could have a topic called
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as he passed by and connect. All of these episodes together
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to a rich tapestry of his ministry and write a piece on
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that and say, here are all the things that are alike and this
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is what some people after they got healed or had a miracle this
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to happen to them. And some people, this happened
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to them but we can see this little Tidbit of information
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collected nonlinearly from all parts for the Run Chabot.
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So by making these connections, each one of these can be an
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event, but we're linking them together and saying, here's one
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topic that connects all of these events which are seemingly
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unrelated, besides the fact that Jesus was there and did
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something together and then we can present a picture that is
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much richer. And again, these connections, we
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spent a whole year doing this so you can imagine this is already
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thousands of hours and I will give credit to several other
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people who are not here today. Mary, Joe garagiola Godwin Uzu
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from Africa, calling slow-mo from Africa.
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Monica came Manuela butter. Know, they were, we were a big
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team and this is the court that has remained for the last
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stretch. So we're talking thousands of
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hours. Thousands of hours, and this is
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just, you know, it's good enough now to serve as a basis point,
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but we could spend thousands more hours and people maybe one
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day we'll need something that will be added to.
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Will it be sort of like open source open source and also we
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will build an interface so that people can ask it questions and
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I already have the ideas on how to do this.
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Something simple. You know, there's tools today
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that you can you can ask Ask a ice question.
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So this is not really an AI, but I have an idea of making it
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accessible to people, so that they can look for things.
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But also will put the data in a way that is in the public
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domain. So people can take that data and
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do something else with it other products, other ideas other
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tools. Yeah, and then, if somebody
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wants to help us make this data set better, we will have a
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process where they can look at it and say, oh, but this is
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missing. Why don't?
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At this and we will examine this and keep adding things.
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So, we will make it. We will make it into the public
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domain for sure. Please know what I wanted to
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say. Also that when we started like,
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like Susan said, with the untold story of Jesus, there were, we
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took the information from there and there were topics that came
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out of there. And then when we go went to the,
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to the part 4 The you run to book, then we, there were other
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topics added and then some people came to the team and
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added more topics. So it's it's really very
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individual. Like, like Abril said before,
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what somebody can take out of the information and make up
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topic about it and also the relation.
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So these are in this, these dots together on the relating.
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One thing to the other makes this So rich.
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And so really grateful for someone that cannot really or is
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not interested to read the book or never read the book or is not
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able to do it, you know? And when my cane also came with
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other topics, they all this this this is missing, can we do this?
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And it is something that is really in my opinion, going to
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grow on time. And and also from the
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perspective of many, many people, You know, that you're
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going to probably be a part of this.
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You could take almost all of those points and turn any one of
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them into a movie or a series, which is part of this plan
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Gabriel, right? So you could do a, if it was
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episodic, you could do one on each one of the Apostles, just
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Base by it. All of these data points that
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you've pulled together these nodes, and you don't have to go
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and read the whole book, it's you can collate it the way you
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want. So if I want to do a, if I want
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to write a book on what it was like for John, To travel around
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with Jesus and learn all of these things.
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Probably the luckiest man in the universe.
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Be able to hang out with Jesus as much as he did.
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You know, amazing, the magnitude of this work is that this team
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is creating the data set. The team, we talked to yesterday
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with Andrei leading is writing a piece on each one of these data
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points. This is how big the work we're
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doing, is it's humongous. It's got guns.
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Yawning and rested yesterday because each one of these data
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points and there's already thousands of them, we're going
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to expand into a written piece and then we're going to add to
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it media files and that's the basis of the software, the
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metaverse software. And then we're going to show you
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an experience and we're going to give you maps and timelines.
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So this is how these everything gets connected were collecting.
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Now, insights topics informations and then other
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people are expanding them. Many essays.
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Or, you know sometimes the obviously Jesus is page is
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already probably 15,000 words. So but it's a it's a it's a
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synthesis of 15,000 words that goes through a sequence and also
27:33
uses all these data points, this is how things get connected.
27:37
Do you think that this will help people?
27:40
Is it your Maybe? Of the desires here is to use
27:44
this as a way of introducing people to the Urantia book, very
27:48
well and JJ Benitez. Wrote a series of books.
27:52
He heavily heavily borrowed from the Rancher book.
27:57
I will not say plagiarize but he haven't libero.
28:02
But what happened is that thousands of people in South
28:05
America who read his books in Spanish.
28:07
We're meeting for the first time in Jesus.
28:10
They've never met before. Which was heavily influenced and
28:15
inspired by what the information presented to us in part 4 of
28:20
your uncle book. So they were asking and and some
28:24
of our team members Louise, we met a while back.
28:28
He said I wish this coming from I've ever heard this about Jesus
28:33
I've never seen this particular thing so I imagine many people
28:37
will ask and we will not be shy and say yes these products are
28:42
Fired by parts for of the orange book and if you want to know
28:46
more than feel free and I'm I know a lot of people will, but
28:54
at the same time, it's important that I mentioned.
28:58
Our purpose is to help people connect to God.
29:00
So when they read about Jesus, when they read about what he
29:04
said, what he did, the fact that we are children of a loving
29:08
father. The fact we are a human family.
29:13
Could say a brother heard, but a family is even better.
29:17
And, you know, this world needs these Concepts, these simple
29:21
spiritual truths, the young men who was afraid was comforted,
29:25
and then later became a became a leader, just because he had a
29:29
five-minute conversation with Jesus, And Jesus said, whatever
29:33
he needed to hear and now we can enjoy this.
29:36
And there's many other young people who when they will see
29:40
this scene, may be recreated in a dramatic way or a video of
29:46
somebody narrating this or a piece of written piece, that
29:49
explains and gives part of the dialogue or part of the actual
29:53
quote of what Jesus said. And then, I imagine a young
29:58
person who is failing that exactly that he can Deal with
30:02
his life and he has to get away and he's feeling maybe depressed
30:06
or anxious about whatever, we all felt this.
30:10
But now we have a chance to see one of the highest levels of the
30:15
high, highest level spiritual Master on this planet, explain
30:19
to me how to deal with my life situation, 2,000 years later.
30:26
So we're not all fortunate to have been living here when he
30:29
was here, but we are all fortunate because Because of the
30:32
revelator's and the Rancher book to recreate, and, and
30:36
paraphrase, and share, and make accessible all of the richness
30:41
of the story. And the very, very simple
30:44
truths. You know, we are loved children
30:46
of God and and how much more Divine parent will love a child
30:52
than a human parrot. So we all know what a human
30:56
parent can do out of love to their children.
30:59
So That is that is that, that particular idea, changed my
31:04
life, that you can have a relationship with God on a
31:08
personal level. And you don't need any
31:10
intermediate, that was a revelation.
31:13
And that when I am when I understood it, when I heard it,
31:16
I didn't I didn't understand it. It took me years and the Rancher
31:19
book was part of this process and what I read about what Jesus
31:23
said. And of course Parts, one, two
31:25
and three, this is okay, somebody told me this, but now I
31:30
can read it. All this detail and now I can
31:33
see somebody who's practicing this and teaching it that
31:37
changed my life. I think it might change other
31:40
people's lives as well. So our job is to present this.
31:44
And the rest is not going to be up to us as a person who found
31:48
the Urantia book through a secondary work.
31:51
I see this as being so important because the material is there,
31:57
but the person who finds the metaverse Us actually has the
32:02
power of Discovery through seeking the answers themselves
32:06
instead of us presenting. I mean were there as a resource
32:10
and were there once they do discover and they want to meet
32:15
other people but the power of this is that they are believing
32:20
that there is something, maybe they haven't been introduced to
32:25
before. Maybe there is something that
32:28
they'll learn about Jesus that They haven't known something.
32:33
They missed that that mystery is something that drives people to
32:39
seek. And when they're in that mode,
32:41
they're open spiritually, I believe.
32:44
And I think this will be a tool that will bring many people to
32:48
to a personal faith through knowing to knowing Jesus.
32:54
But also this discovery process of him.
32:57
How many people do you need to help you now?
33:00
I mean, what are you looking for now?
33:02
Do you need more people to help because it'll accelerate the
33:07
progress or? Yeah, that's that's the question
33:10
you need people. I know somebody one of my
33:13
wonderful listener said that their musician and they
33:15
contacted you and they're going to start doing music for you.
33:18
Other people said you know another musician said wow I
33:22
didn't even know this was going on.
33:23
This is exciting. So you want people, you want
33:26
donations, you want contributions, the, you want
33:29
everything, because this is going to be a project, that
33:31
doesn't really have a time. I mean it's not going to end.
33:33
It's just going to continue to get better and better, right?
33:36
But other projects will have to wait for this initial one to be
33:39
done. So is the curating and the nodes
33:43
and building that database sort of the Bedrock to the other
33:47
projects that will spring from it.
33:49
To answer your question. Anybody who wants to serve we're
33:53
building a very large Our organization that will last a
33:55
long, long time, and especially young people but not just young
33:59
people. Anybody who says, I want to be
34:01
part of this, they can go on our website and there's a volunteer
34:05
application link. If you feel you you want to join
34:10
then you have a place and we will find out together.
34:12
What that place is we do need other people to write material a
34:17
lot of material and an edit and proofread we will need
34:22
translators to other. We're just but that's going to
34:25
come down the road and we're now starting to look for the quality
34:32
material, that will enhance the written material.
34:35
So art and comics and videos, and podcasts anything that will
34:41
enhance this this written piece, which will be mostly originally
34:48
written by a Rancher Book Students and is the work that
34:52
the team we interviewed yesterday.
34:54
Day is doing right now. We're going to put other type of
34:57
rich media files there so that you can enjoy a musical
35:02
presentation or maybe a video from a play, you know, or if
35:08
it's a location. Then how does it look today?
35:11
No, we have videos of Pella where the baptism occurred.
35:15
There's an actual archaeological site near Jericho.
35:19
You can go see it and there's an excavation so we can put a video
35:22
of that and show you how Looks today, of course, Nazareth
35:26
Jerusalem. They're all Capernaum.
35:28
They are filled with. Israel is filled with
35:31
archaeological sites. So videos of things, you know,
35:36
the Shroud of Turin might appear somewhere.
35:38
So we will link this into whatever you know, the Joseph or
35:42
of already Mattea and the story about the resurrection.
35:46
So there might be some peace or something about the Shroud of
35:48
Turin. All this rich media.
35:52
You tell you when to post it. They found a boat, right?
35:55
And you believe that. It's either both the Jesus made
35:58
or his design, right? Yes, yes.
36:03
There is a boat, and actually, the Jesus Museum, we're in
36:08
negotiations to release the auditorium that has been waiting
36:13
for 50 years. It's they built it and then
36:17
never used it. And that boat, which I will
36:20
mention in a minute is sitting in a museum and they have a
36:23
whole way. Any of that museum waiting for
36:25
something for the last 50 years and we feel it's been waiting
36:29
for the Jesus Museum. So we're negotiating now at
36:32
least least that place and also hire a professional Museum
36:37
design company with our own, Stephen marble to design the
36:41
concept. For this.
36:43
The story for this boat is that 40 years ago, the Sea of Galilee
36:46
receded and two amateur archaeologists were walking on
36:51
down the beach. Looking for Treasure.
36:53
They Hit on a piece of wood and some nails that looked very old,
36:59
they started Excavating, it was basically buried in mud for 2000
37:03
years. They flew people from all around
37:06
the world to get it out because as soon as you get it out of the
37:09
water and the body starts disintegrating, and they did a
37:13
rescue operation with special foam and the special lift, and
37:18
it took them 10 years to restore this boat.
37:22
To the point that it can basically, When stand the
37:25
pressure of time and it is now placed in a museum on the shores
37:29
of the Sea of Galilee very close to where it was found in a place
37:34
called Gino's are, which is 10 minutes away from Capernaum.
37:38
Everything is closer with her, it's an amazing story and the
37:44
story ins, who looked at the design of the boat they saw that
37:50
it did way. That the job the boards were
37:52
joined was A novel way, they haven't seen Roman boats use the
37:57
same technology so they surmise that this was a new design that
38:01
surfaced around the Sea of Galilee and the carbon dated to
38:06
the time of Jesus. So they did and we know this
38:09
phrase in the book where it talks about.
38:11
I don't know, is anybody have that one in there?
38:13
If their fingertips, where it describes the boat, the fact
38:16
that he was a expert boat builder and change the way that
38:19
Boats were built from that point on and everybody wanted to buy
38:22
his boats. And that's That you don't read
38:24
about in the New Testament, you know, the boat builder of
38:27
Capernaum, you know, any of you want to comment.
38:33
I mean, you're all experts at Jesus, at this point.
38:37
You could walk out and let me write this about the boat and I
38:41
read this. Yeah, 129 13.
38:44
Jesus work with Zebedee. Only a little more than one
38:47
year. But during that time, he created
38:49
a new style of boat and establish entirely new methods
38:52
of both making. Jesus became well-known to the
38:55
Galilee in fisherfolk as the designer of the new boats.
39:00
And to say that within five years, all the boats on the Sea
39:05
of Galilee where that type of boat had been built in those
39:09
boats shops, and I think it was interesting to said that it was
39:15
found near her magdala, right? Gabriel.
39:17
Is that, and that is where Jesus, uncle and his brother.
39:21
Jude ended up doing a fishing business.
39:24
So I feel sure that maybe if that boat was from that area,
39:30
it's very possible that they might have been some of the
39:32
first ones that would have purchased boats from that Jesus
39:36
had made. So I think it's very possible
39:39
that it could be a boat that was built in that very boat shop
39:43
than possibly, even by Jesus. Interesting Sandra and I where I
39:50
went to this very place with visitor for Canada last week and
39:55
we stood in front of this boat and when I say this and I told
39:59
this story to many people, my body reacts and I may cry
40:05
because I personally believe that this particular boat was
40:09
actually built by Jesus can improve it by.
40:13
This is a feeling so strong. And if that is the case or
40:18
there's a person likelihood, that's the only object may be
40:22
varying. The Shroud of Turin that
40:25
actually exists from that time that he made.
40:30
And we want to build an entire Museum, right?
40:33
So you will go into this boat, you will see this and they will
40:36
open a door and you will go back 2,000 years in time.
40:41
And well, the rest we haven't designed that yet, but we're
40:45
working on that. Well, we need boat films in part
40:51
of our cinematic project. I envisioned and dream that will
40:55
have both films from all the stories pulled out of your
40:58
auntie book of him being around the boats like when when they
41:02
found him in the boat weeping, before they started out on the
41:06
first preaching tour, or when he, at when the crowd was
41:10
pressing them so much that he called the boat, you know, the
41:14
men in the boat to come over. And at least get him out into
41:17
the water, so he had room to even stand and speak and you
41:21
know, there's times when his sister came and and Ruth and he
41:25
went into a boat and went offshore a little bit so they
41:28
could have a private talk. There's so many stories about
41:31
the boats that you know, and him working in the in the boat shop
41:36
and laying down his tools and saying my hour has come and he
41:40
and I went to be baptized there. So many of these films that we
41:43
could make that would enrich the experience.
41:46
Doing, it's when people visited the museum and see the boat
41:49
themselves. And that, of course, is because
41:53
of the work that you've done creating all these nodes, right?
41:57
Or did you just know? Did you are all of you experts
42:01
well-versed with your Ranch book before you were involved in this
42:04
project? Any of you not familiar with the
42:07
ranch book. No everybody was the reader
42:11
already. Yeah in 1978 it was a
42:15
requirement. I've been reading since 1989 so
42:20
just over 30 years. Oh my as is the doing this
42:24
project enhance your appreciation of what aspect of
42:29
the book, Jesus obviously as it enhance your appreciation of the
42:34
meticulous detail that the revelator's provided and putting
42:38
this book together, From a literary point of view.
42:42
What are your what are your thoughts?
42:45
How does it compare to say some of the best writings ever
42:49
Shakespeare anybody? Well in my case I've been
42:57
reading the you want a book since 93.
43:01
My mother tongue is Spanish so I started reading the unity
43:08
booking, a spa Of course, then many years after also in
43:15
English. But I think that that what this
43:20
project gave to me is again, it's it goes beyond what you
43:26
read or what you have to understand in an intellectual
43:30
kind of way or in a, you know, it brings you.
43:35
I don't know how what was the the experience by Susan and
43:39
Mark, but for me, is because when I started to do the first
43:43
work with the untold story, I did it with my mom, which is
43:46
wrong. So you run to reader and we were
43:50
in such a sharing of really Jesus in the middle of all
43:56
these, you know, creating this data and and thinking about
44:03
which, which topics we should put in and should be this, the
44:07
one and then they're not getting it together.
44:11
It's really like being with our father creator.
44:17
We're all together, doing this work and all the Unseen brothers
44:22
and sisters that I'm sure are supporting us.
44:25
So it's really a, of course, you go more deep.
44:29
And then from all the years you have inside and you, you know,
44:33
we know that when we read the you want to book again and again
44:36
you discover discover new things.
44:40
But in this case, I think it was really a But communion, you
44:46
know, like really being together with Jesus doing this work and
44:52
it is. It's an amazing feeling, it's
44:55
Rings, it's beyond words for me. Well, you found a few, so thank
45:01
you for that. I think it captures the essence
45:06
of the importance of the work because it is the greatest story
45:08
ever Untold and we're telling it.
45:11
So are you do you ever Have a problem putting things together
45:17
without referring to the first three sections of the book
45:21
because you're really focusing on part 4 but so much of it
45:23
draws from. For example, the conversation I
45:27
think it's at the end of paper 119 with a manual giving advice,
45:32
is that incorporated into the but yeah, kid I always yeah.
45:37
I wanted to share that point too because I think that's been one
45:40
of the surprises as I've gone back through part for is How
45:44
many references you think of it just as the the life of Jesus on
45:49
your Ranch and yet it really does bring in other elements
45:52
from the first three sections. In fact, one paper that I'm
45:56
working on right now, speaks about between Jesus, 9th and
46:03
10th miranshah appearance. After the crucifixion, he spends
46:06
a day with the morontia creatures who are resident on
46:09
your Ranch at the time 1000 directors and assistant
46:12
directors and others. And that's, you know, you
46:15
wouldn't know that obviously from the Bible and yet it brings
46:20
in elements that might pique curiosity for those who are
46:23
reading and studying about Jesus and his life, the hair on the
46:28
planet to say, oh well, who are these miranshah creatures and
46:32
why are they here? And what are they doing?
46:33
And so, I think it will be a springboard to invite those who
46:39
are curious into other parts of the book and to learn more about
46:44
What your answer has to share? Yeah, I'm running out of
46:49
questions because I think I've covered everything that I know
46:54
about what you're doing. Is there anything that I haven't
46:57
asked that? You think the listeners should
46:59
know anyone? We neglect to mention there is
47:04
someone helping on our team named Roland sixth grade, who
47:11
doesn't have the proper computer.
47:14
Technology to actually work in the air table but he provides he
47:19
chooses a topic and he'll do research on it and provide it to
47:23
me and I enter it for him and he's been doing excellent work
47:26
for us too and I just wanted to make sure he was mentioned.
47:31
I just want to say, I'll just want to say that we're extremely
47:35
privileged that we were found by this book or we found it.
47:41
Some people literally get it. Their head.
47:46
But so I'll just finish by saying Me personally, when I
47:55
understood who Jesus is intellectually which of course
47:59
refers to Parts 1 2 and 3 of your checkbook and the beginning
48:04
of part. For the next question, I had is,
48:08
how do I want to spend the rest of my days on this plant?
48:11
What do I do with it? Making more money.
48:14
Getting more stuff. Yeah, it's so fun having more
48:17
vacations. But now I understand that the
48:20
person who was here 2,000 years ago, Not only for this planet,
48:24
but for an entire universe is my Creator son.
48:29
So what drives me is knowing that one day we will all be but
48:35
you know, I'm thinking about me, I will be actually face to face
48:39
with Michael, in Southampton, asking for his Blessing, on the
48:44
way out of this universe because I know this will happen for me.
48:50
I've made that commitment. So Okay, this is a think Andre
48:55
say that it's a, that was going to be a whole class of beings in
49:00
front of Michael but him being a Creator, son, he will have a
49:03
discussion with you in your head and it will have the same
49:06
discussion with everybody else at the same time.
49:08
So I'm sure you can do that as well.
49:10
So, but I will have a personal time with him and say, I am your
49:18
child and soon as I knew that you were here and I was lucky
49:24
enough to be on this torn Planet.
49:27
My mission was to share your life story, so that other people
49:30
can find peace and comfort. And in The Knowing of the things
49:38
that you came here to teach, It's a great privilege so there
49:44
is no bigger privilege. So I think this is not work,
49:48
this is this is a great gift. So I just wanted to say that
49:54
well thanks for that and also I don't want to let it go without
49:57
mentioning that you were very instrumental in translating the
50:01
Urantia book into Hebrew correct?
50:05
That's pretty big that's that's pretty bad school right up there
50:09
with It's a pretty big stuff that's like Moses coming down
50:13
with tablets. I think because you're taking
50:16
the life of the most important Jew in history and translating
50:21
into his home language where I'll actually he spoke Aramaic
50:25
but isn't Hebrew sort of derive from Aramaic, I mean it's rude
50:30
is Aramaic yeah their sister language.
50:33
Yeah, I'll tell a story, We Sandra.
50:36
And I were in a, in a wedding. This is to, to show how little
50:41
non-christians know about Jesus. We were in a wedding of Jewish
50:45
people and the husband of my business partner knows that.
50:51
I did Iran Chabot. Can we read it?
50:52
And we told him about it and so he says, I you finish with the
50:58
translation but I finished the translation, five years ago.
51:00
So I said, yeah, a long time ago.
51:02
So what are you doing? So I said I'm just working for
51:05
the most famous Jew on the planet.
51:08
He's friend was sitting there. He looked at me as you're
51:12
working for Albert, Einstein, and I was so.
51:14
So our friend said, no, he's working for Jesus, and the other
51:18
guy says Jesus was Jewish So again, thanks to all those who
51:24
joined in this. Wonderful conversation.
51:27
See you next time and don't forget to knew your aunt, your
51:30
radio podcast on Sunday, we will have the paper of the week as
51:34
suggested by you. So if you have a particular
51:38
Urantia book paper that you would like us to read and talk
51:42
about. Let us know your answer book
51:43
radio at gmail.com. Your Ranch a book radio at
51:47
gmail.com. The paper of the week, look for
51:49
the download on Sunday morning, talk to you.