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The Be.Attitudes of Following Jesus Series - Part 3A: Become Like Jesus | Andy Yeoh · Generations Church

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, you're listening to the Generation's Church podcast. We
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  Speaker 1: pray that the word of God today will challenge, change
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  Speaker 1: and channel you into your God given destiny. Now let's
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  Speaker 1: get started.
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  Speaker 2: Today. Let's move on to the second goal.
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  Speaker 3: The second beattitude of this journey called discipleship and needs
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  Speaker 3: to become like Jesus every single day as we learn
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  Speaker 3: to spend time with him. What are we trying to do?
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  Speaker 3: We are trying to become more and more like this
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  Speaker 3: person we are following. I want to give you a
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  Speaker 3: picture Jesus's invitation of follow me. That invitation can be
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  Speaker 3: described this way. It's like an open door and a
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  Speaker 3: narrow way. Why open door. It's not a closed door.
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  Speaker 3: It's an open door. Why because Jesus said, whoever wants
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  Speaker 3: to follow me.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter your.
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  Speaker 3: Your social status, It doesn't me your accolades, your medals,
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  Speaker 3: anyone whoever wants to come and follow me. This life
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  Speaker 3: of the suppleship is for anyone and everyone and whoever
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  Speaker 3: who wants to It's an wide open door. There's no key,
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  Speaker 3: there's no like knock, knock, knock, Just come in. Is
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  Speaker 3: an open door. Whoever, it's a door, it's open but
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  Speaker 3: because it's a door, there is a need to walk
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  Speaker 3: through it to walk into it. You can't just like
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  Speaker 3: that's nice, thanks, Jesus, nice phrase. Follow you Yahaha, I'll
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  Speaker 3: do it from here. You can't do that. You can't
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  Speaker 3: just like, okay, Jesus, I'll do following you from here.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta walk through this open door. But when you
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  Speaker 3: walk through this open door, you're gonna discover the way
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  Speaker 3: is very narrow.
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  Speaker 2: Open door, narrow way.
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  Speaker 3: Now you know what, Jesus really really needs a marketing person,
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  Speaker 3: a PR person, because he's definitely not selling this very well. Right,
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  Speaker 3: Come follow me. Your life will be hard. Come follow me.
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  Speaker 3: You have no place to lay your head. Come follow me,
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  Speaker 3: what barefoot? Come follow me the wake up early in
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  Speaker 3: the morning and pray three hours. He's like, how do
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  Speaker 3: you market that? He really needed a PR person, But
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  Speaker 3: Jesus did say he did say some very marketable and
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  Speaker 3: very p R phrases. He did say those things. I'll
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  Speaker 3: show them to you. He said, guys, don't worry about tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: He's saying, you don't worry, be happy. It's okay, that's marketable,
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  Speaker 3: that's very PR nice. He also said, ask and you'll
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  Speaker 3: be given not and you will. It will be open seeking.
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  Speaker 3: You're fine, hey, very good. He also said, come, come,
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  Speaker 3: come to me, all you who labor and are heavy laden,
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  Speaker 3: and I will give you rests. I'll have you chills.
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  Speaker 3: Have you rest come to me. Oh this one is marketable.
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  Speaker 3: He also said, this is a good one.
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  Speaker 2: He's a good one.
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  Speaker 3: He said, I have come that you all may have
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  Speaker 3: life and have it to have it more abundantly.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're gonna have so.
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  Speaker 3: Much blessings and goodness. It's great now.
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  Speaker 2: If Jesus would just stop there a he didn't.
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  Speaker 3: He also said things like, whoever wants to be my disciples,
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  Speaker 3: that's a big open door. Have to deny yourself. Here's
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  Speaker 3: the narrow way. Take up your cross, you know the
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  Speaker 3: cross thing that that killed me. Yeah, take that up
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  Speaker 3: every day, not just set the day or Sunday, every day,
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  Speaker 3: and then come follow me. He also said, enter through
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  Speaker 3: the narrow gate. For why it is the gate and
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  Speaker 3: broad is the road that leads to destruction. You will
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  Speaker 3: actually fail, you actually be destroyed, you will actually be
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  Speaker 3: gone if you take this road. He means his words.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't make it lighter, He just went for it.
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  Speaker 3: Then he said but small is the gate and narrow
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  Speaker 3: the road that leads to life. You want to live,
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  Speaker 3: you want your best life. Take this small git, this
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  Speaker 3: small road. And then he says, only if you find it,
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  Speaker 3: he could really use a pr person.
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  Speaker 2: Ah.
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  Speaker 3: Look, so Jesus is saying, the lifelong journey of the
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  Speaker 3: supper Ship is an intentional one. One you have to
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  Speaker 3: choose and make decisions every day to follow. Is not
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  Speaker 3: always an easy one, but there's a promise. It leads
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  Speaker 3: to life. It leads to life, your best life. And
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  Speaker 3: by best life, I don't mean dream car, dream house,
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  Speaker 3: dream vacation. Only it means the life you are meant
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  Speaker 3: to live. So, friends, the past few weeks, we've learned
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  Speaker 3: a lot of words, Greek words, Hebrew words, English words,
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  Speaker 3: scientific words, psychological words. Here's a not a word, spiritual formation.
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  Speaker 2: This journey, this.
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  Speaker 3: Process, this system, whatever you're wanna call it, this way,
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  Speaker 3: it's called spiritual formation. Spirit doesn't mean it just forms
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  Speaker 3: you in the spiritual sense, but not in natural sense.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that.
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  Speaker 3: It means spirit means inside, means formation that happens from
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  Speaker 3: the inside out. So discipleship is becoming like Jesus, becoming
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  Speaker 3: like Jesus is a process, and the process is called
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  Speaker 3: what spiritual formation. In other words, discipleship equals spiritual formation.
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  Speaker 3: Spiritualformation equals becoming like Jesus equals disciple shape. But spiritual
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  Speaker 3: formation in the way of Jesus. You're being formed his
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  Speaker 3: way into his way. So discipleship is a way of life,
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  Speaker 3: and it is the Jesus way of life. Okay, your
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  Speaker 3: way of life, my way of life, His way of life,
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  Speaker 3: their way of life, not some guru, not some psychological expert.
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  Speaker 3: Is Jesus' way of life, his way of delivering offenses,
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  Speaker 3: his way of dealing with bribery, his way of dealing
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  Speaker 3: with betrayal, his way of dealing with pain and suffering,
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  Speaker 3: his way of dealing with love and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: Spiritual formation. Amen.
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  Speaker 3: Now we live a day and age where maybe you've
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  Speaker 3: been exposed, maybe you're not. Some of us have, but
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  Speaker 3: it seems to be a buzzword these days. Spiritual formation
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  Speaker 3: actually is not a very new concept. Is a very
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  Speaker 3: old concept way back then in the fourth century and
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  Speaker 3: all that they've been talking about this already spiritual formation.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's gonna sound like some scholars who talk like
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  Speaker 3: that and books who uses words like this, but actually
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  Speaker 3: you know what this word, this concept is in the Bible.
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  Speaker 2: Paul Paul is well known.
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  Speaker 3: He's he often talks about spiritual formation. There are some
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  Speaker 3: interchangeable words like renew world like transformation. Those are the
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  Speaker 3: words that Paul would use to describe spiritual formation. Second
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  Speaker 3: Corinthian Street eighteen for example. And we all with unveiled
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  Speaker 3: face beholding. Remember this word beholding is to look at
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  Speaker 3: Jesus spending time with God, enjoying him.
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  Speaker 2: Discipleshit beholding the glory of the.
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  Speaker 3: Lord are being transformed into the same image from one
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  Speaker 3: degree of glory. Remember, not perfection, persistent, consistency, lifelong journey,
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  Speaker 3: even pulsated. You get changed one degree at a time.
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  Speaker 3: Transformation spiritual formation. For this comes from the Lord, who
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  Speaker 3: is spirit efficient for twenty to twenty four. But that
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  Speaker 3: is not the way you learn Christ, assuming that you
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  Speaker 3: have heard about Him and were taught in Him as
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  Speaker 3: the truth is, Jesus put off your old self, which
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  Speaker 3: belongs to your former manner of life and its corrupt
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  Speaker 3: to civil desires, and to be renewed in the spirit
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  Speaker 3: of your minds. This means spiritual formation, being renewed, being changed,
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  Speaker 3: being more and more glorified, one degree after another. In
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  Speaker 3: the spirit of your mind, we talk a lot about
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  Speaker 3: the mind in the last two part, and it sounded
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  Speaker 3: like some psychological talk.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 3: The Bible talks about the spirit of the mind.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when you were told the Holy Spirit is a person.
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  Speaker 3: So when the Bible says spirit of the mind, we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about how your mind forms you into a type
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  Speaker 3: of person and poorly saying that spirit of your mind.
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  Speaker 2: Need to be renewed.
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  Speaker 3: You need to adjust, You need to redirect your consciousness
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  Speaker 3: towards God. Otherwise it's not in our autopilot moving away
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  Speaker 3: from God because of sin Colosure Street ten to eleven.
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  Speaker 3: Put on your new nature and be renewed as you
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  Speaker 3: learn to know your Creator and become like him in
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  Speaker 3: this new life. It doesn't matter if you're a Jew
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  Speaker 3: or gentile, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbaric, uncivilized, safe or free,
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  Speaker 3: open door crimes is all that matters, and He lives
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  Speaker 3: in all of us abiding. Finally, first May four seventy
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  Speaker 3: eight have nothing to do with irrelevant silly myth. Rather
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  Speaker 3: train yourself for all these words. Have you noticed we
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  Speaker 3: just be using different words. We say discipline intentional, Yeah, habitual,
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  Speaker 3: Paul is just using a different word. He says, Train
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  Speaker 3: yourself means wake, come in the morning and think about
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  Speaker 3: God first, go to bed at night, anything about God. Loss,
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  Speaker 3: Train yourself, currate your consciousness, abiding Jesus. Follow this way,
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  Speaker 3: turn yourself for godliness, become like God for while bodily training.
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  Speaker 3: All these other disciplines, intentionality, habits that you have in
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  Speaker 3: your life, they are good, they have some value, Pol says,
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  Speaker 3: But Godliness is of value. In every way you have
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  Speaker 3: Godliness in your life, you are a success, a preference
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  Speaker 3: hit above all in every area of your life.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: As this as it holds promised for the present life
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  Speaker 3: and the life to come, Paul, and Jesus is not
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  Speaker 3: asking you to do this discaple ship just so that
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  Speaker 3: you can tahan earth and go to heaven and live free.
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  Speaker 2: Is telling you if you live this.
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  Speaker 3: Way here on earth while waiting for Heaven, your life
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  Speaker 3: here will be the best you can live.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: So, spiritual formation is that process of becoming like someone.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't put over Jesus there yet, I'll explain. But
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  Speaker 3: spiritual formation as it is, is the process of becoming
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  Speaker 3: like someone in other whats I'm suggesting you can be
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  Speaker 3: spiritually formed to become like Leonardo da Vinci or Elon Mask.
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  Speaker 3: So in other words, it's a process, meaning if you
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  Speaker 3: follow a particular way over a long period of time,
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  Speaker 3: you become that someone. Spiritual formation is not a Christian
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  Speaker 3: thing only. It's not even a religious thing, although it
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  Speaker 3: sounds like it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a human thing.
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  Speaker 3: Spiritual formation is another word or label for the development
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  Speaker 3: of the soul. And if you if you study theology nowadays,
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  Speaker 3: there are people who tell you the soul and the
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  Speaker 3: spirit is actually the same thing. So those people will
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  Speaker 3: tell you we only have a body, and so that's it,
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  Speaker 3: not three parts. It's basically saying there is an external
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  Speaker 3: you and it there's an internal you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So spiritual formation is not a religious thing, Christian thing.
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  Speaker 3: Non Christians go to spiritual formation too. Atheists go through
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  Speaker 3: spiritual format too. Everybody goes to spiritual formation.
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  Speaker 2: White.
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  Speaker 3: Spiritual information being formed from the inside out. Amen, your
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  Speaker 3: soul is being developed, so spiritual information is happening.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone have been through, is going through and will go
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  Speaker 3: through spiritual formation. So a saintly person like Mother Thrisa
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  Speaker 3: was a product of spiritual formation but so was Hitler.
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  Speaker 3: They both have been spiritually formed, just very, very differently.
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  Speaker 3: So don't we city and think, oh, spiritual formation is
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  Speaker 3: for the church leaders.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's for the missionaries. Oh it's them. No.
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  Speaker 3: No, you, while you were sleeping, you, while you were
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  Speaker 3: to your old kid, and have no consciousness of this.
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  Speaker 2: You have been spiritually formed.
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  Speaker 3: There is not one person in this world or in
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  Speaker 3: your life that is not spiritually formed. There has not
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  Speaker 3: been formed from the inside out to become a certain kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of a person.
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  Speaker 3: The kind of person you are today is a result
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  Speaker 3: and the product of all the spiritual information that has
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  Speaker 3: been happening in your life up till this date. You know,
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  Speaker 3: all of us, one day in the future, sooner than
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  Speaker 3: you think. One day, you're going to wake up in
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  Speaker 3: the morning or afternoon. For some of you, you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: wake up and then you're gonna realize that you have
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  Speaker 3: become a certain kind of dead or mom, a friend,
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  Speaker 3: or lover or worker or boss or human being.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna wake and.
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  Speaker 3: Go, Wow, I am such and such a dad, I'm
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  Speaker 3: such a such a friend, I'm such and such a neighbor.
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  Speaker 3: You wake up and you realize, Hey, I've become a
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  Speaker 3: certain kind of person. And if we if we don't
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  Speaker 3: teach this or learn this, we don't know how it
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  Speaker 3: came about. How it came about is you were spiritually formed, amen,
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  Speaker 3: because that's spiritual formation. Spiritualformation is not some like new age,
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  Speaker 3: new new Christian things. Oh, I'm really getting the spiritual
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  Speaker 3: information now? And what what do they mean? They mean
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  Speaker 3: they're reading books on it, they're studying theology, or like
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  Speaker 3: now they're listening to a podcasts and or now they
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  Speaker 3: wake up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: And if this routine and all that, all those things
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  Speaker 2: are good.
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  Speaker 3: Hm. But we feel realize we have all been into
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  Speaker 3: spiritual formation since before we came out of the womb.
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  Speaker 3: We've been we have all been becoming a person a
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  Speaker 3: type of person, ever since we were born. When someone
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  Speaker 3: says something about you and your reaction is too blank,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you do, that's the type of person you are, and
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  Speaker 3: that is the result of weeks, months and years of formation.
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  Speaker 3: I think we've said this several different ways already, by
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  Speaker 3: it's the same thing, and so I'm gonna say it again.
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  Speaker 3: It's not whether you're into spiritual formation or not.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not asking to be more spiritual than you already are.
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  Speaker 3: That's not necessarily what I'm saying, because it's already happening.
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  Speaker 3: You're already being formed spiritually, You're already being formed on.
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  Speaker 2: The inside out to become a certain kind of person.
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  Speaker 3: The key is this, as apprentices and disciples of Jesus,
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  Speaker 3: we need to learn to play a role. That means,
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  Speaker 3: instead of just letting it happen without our active involvement,
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  Speaker 3: we play a role, We do something about it, We
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  Speaker 3: get activated, we are involved. We play a role in
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  Speaker 3: the trajectory of our formation. If you on you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be form one way, and it may not be the
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  Speaker 3: Jesus way. So if you want to be formed the
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  Speaker 3: Jesus way, you have to play a role in making
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  Speaker 3: sure that's the direction you're hating.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: So, in other words, friends, we can participate with God
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  Speaker 3: in our formation or we can resist and work against God.
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  Speaker 3: So basically, you can work with God or you can
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  Speaker 3: work against God. God wants to form you into more
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  Speaker 3: like Jesus, so you have two choices, work with him
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  Speaker 3: or work against him. If you are not intentional about it,
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  Speaker 3: you are already working against him. But to work with him,
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  Speaker 3: there's a part to play amen, but to play okay.
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  Speaker 3: So when Jesus talks about the narrow way and the
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  Speaker 3: broad way, he seems to be alluding to this participation
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  Speaker 3: from us.
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  Speaker 2: Which way will you choose?
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  Speaker 3: Will you choose the way of working with me, which
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  Speaker 3: is narrow, or you're gonna choose the way of working
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  Speaker 3: against me, which is broad? Where are you going to heat?
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  Speaker 3: I think he's referring to that. So the broad road?
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  Speaker 3: What is this broad road? Jesus gave us some clues.
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  Speaker 3: It's basically the road where you do whatever you want,
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  Speaker 3: do whatever everybody else is doing. And the Bible realises
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  Speaker 3: most people are on that road. The bad news is,
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  Speaker 3: and we don't like bad news, but the bad news
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  Speaker 3: is too bad news. The bad news is, if you're
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  Speaker 3: on that road, it leads to destruction. It's not gonna
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  Speaker 3: end well for you, your true person, who God created
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  Speaker 3: you to be. If you stay on this broad road.
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  Speaker 3: Every step you take on this broad road, you're being destroyed,
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  Speaker 3: bait by bit. Every day you're on this broad road,
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  Speaker 3: being chipped away your true self, who God created you
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  Speaker 3: to be. The longer you're on this broad road, the
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  Speaker 3: more destroyed you become, and the further away you get
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  Speaker 3: from who you are meant to be Amen. So you
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  Speaker 3: may be asking, ah, is that how we interpret the
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  Speaker 3: broad way and the narrow way?
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  Speaker 2: Verse?
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  Speaker 3: One interpretation I think we're all familiar with that is
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  Speaker 3: basically the broad road, which many people are on, is
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  Speaker 3: the road where you don't believe in Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: You will go to health. Destruction means hell. They're all
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  Speaker 2: going to hell. If you believe in Jesus. Is a
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  Speaker 2: narrow road. You're gonna go to heaven this one way.
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  Speaker 3: And most people, basically most people as we speak right now,
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  Speaker 3: as it stands right now, most people are going to
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  Speaker 3: hell based on this interpretation, right because.
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  Speaker 2: Few find then the narrow road. Most people go this way.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I don't think it's wrong to interpret that verse
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  Speaker 3: that way, So you're apting it based on belief and salvation.
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  Speaker 3: Broad is most people don't believe in Jesus, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to hell destruction. Less people believe in Jesus, they're going
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  Speaker 3: to heaven life. Great kind of propose to you that
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  Speaker 3: there may be another interpretation.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a broad road. And this broad road is broad.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's common, it's popular, it's easier, not so much
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  Speaker 3: cramping on my style, not so much. Ah, Rubbing shoulders
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  Speaker 3: is broad road. You can go wherever you want. This
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  Speaker 3: broad road is common, it's popular, it's easy. And because
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  Speaker 3: it's common, popular, easy, sounds good, feels good. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of people choose this way. But friends, it feels good,
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  Speaker 3: smells good, looks kind of good. Common, popular, But hey,
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  Speaker 3: it's leading you to destruction. The more you go on
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  Speaker 3: this road, the more destroy your true self is. By
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  Speaker 3: the time you get to the end of this road,
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  Speaker 3: you realize you're so so, so so so far away
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  Speaker 3: from who go wants you to be. And if you
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  Speaker 3: use this interpretation, this would mean that the.
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  Speaker 2: Narrow way it's not about Hell or Heaven only. The
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  Speaker 2: narrow way just means this.
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  Speaker 3: It's not common, it's not popular, it's not it's not like,
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  Speaker 3: do whatever you want, that's broad, do whatever you want.
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  Speaker 2: The narrow way is a.
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  Speaker 3: Very specific way to live. That's why it's narrow. That
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  Speaker 3: means no, no, no, no, not this way, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: not that way, no no, you cannot do this, no,
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  Speaker 3: you cannot do that.
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  Speaker 2: You must do this. Is that narrow Jesus is saying
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  Speaker 2: every other way of living does not work. Only my way.
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  Speaker 3: I am the way the truth in the life. No
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  Speaker 3: one comes to the farther except through me. It's very narrow.
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  Speaker 3: That's another way to interpret it. And he's saying, come
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  Speaker 3: follow me. What is follow me? Means follow me, stay
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  Speaker 3: with me, make your home in me. But it's narrow.
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  Speaker 3: There is if you choose this way. Nah, you can't
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  Speaker 3: do that. No you can't.
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  Speaker 2: No, you can't live that way. No you can't say that.
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  Speaker 3: No you can't think that way, because you must only
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  Speaker 3: think this way and say these things and do these things.
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  Speaker 2: It's narrow, doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus is saying, there is a road, there's a path,
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  Speaker 3: there's a hot doss the Greek word hods way to follow.
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  Speaker 3: And it's based on my life, Jesus says, and my words.
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  Speaker 3: And if you follow this very specific way, this narrow way,
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  Speaker 3: when you follow behind me and you apprentice under me,
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  Speaker 3: you learn my art of living, and you abide in
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  Speaker 3: me and I in you.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm in you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the one that influences you your decisions, your thoughts,
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  Speaker 3: and you spend time with me, it will lead you
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  Speaker 3: to life, the life that you crave, the life that
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  Speaker 3: you were made for. Both Now while you're on earth
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  Speaker 3: and also eternity.
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  Speaker 2: That's Jesus invitation.
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  Speaker 3: It's narrow, it's small, it's specific, but come because it
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  Speaker 3: leads to life.
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  Speaker 2: Amen. So you might be asking, what's this specific way?
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  Speaker 2: How do I do this?
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  Speaker 3: In other words, that question is the question of what
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  Speaker 3: therefore is spiritual formation in.
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  Speaker 2: The Way of Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: If Hitler was spirtually formed, if Stalin was spirtually formed,
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  Speaker 3: then how can I be more like Jesus?
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  Speaker 2: Instead? What is this way?
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  Speaker 3: So I borrowed the definition from the book Practicing the
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  Speaker 3: Way because I think it's great. It's one sentence. What
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  Speaker 3: it's this way is described this way. This spiritual formation
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  Speaker 3: is described as the process of being formed into a
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  Speaker 3: person of love in Christ. There are four parts to
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  Speaker 3: this sentence, four components you see in colors. So there
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  Speaker 3: is the process, there is the being formed. There is
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  Speaker 3: a person of love and in Christ. Spiritual formation in
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: the Way of Jesus is the process of being formed
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  Speaker 3: into a person of love in Christ. In other words,
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  Speaker 3: if you say, pastor, I want to be a disciple
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  Speaker 3: of Jesus, you're saying I'm committed to the process of
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  Speaker 3: being formed into.
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  Speaker 2: A person of love in Christ.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying yes to this, and every single word here
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  Speaker 3: is intentional, carefully chosen. Number one, let's talk about process. Remember,
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  Speaker 3: this journey is a process. There's no fast solution. There
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  Speaker 3: is no quick It's not quick. It's not fast, it's
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: not easy, it's not linear. It can be slow, sometimes long.
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  Speaker 3: But whatever it is, it happens over a period of time.
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  Speaker 3: We just can't shortcut this process. So if you have
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  Speaker 3: ever in your life, ever ever taken discipleship seriously, you
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  Speaker 3: may experience this weird mix. This that caught to me,
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  Speaker 3: this tension of just being very grateful and thankful that
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  Speaker 3: God is doing so much in your life. But it's
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: also this tension of life. But God, why don't you
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  Speaker 3: do it quicker?
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you make it easier?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Because it's a process.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: God is doing something in you, with both the good
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: and the bad experiences. I grew up a very insecure
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: person because I was small. I was shot from standard
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: one two from five. That's eleven years and I don't
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  Speaker 3: know I to toe this story before when my father's
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  Speaker 3: not here today. But when I was very young and
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to my father about something I couldn't,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: he was not in a good mood. He wanted to
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: shut me up and said, please, don't talk now. I
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: kept wanting to tell him about my day. To shut
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  Speaker 3: me up, he took the slipper and slapped me across
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  Speaker 3: the face, and the man on my face was there
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  Speaker 3: for two whole days. Imagine going to school and say
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  Speaker 3: I fellow my sleeper. But that did something to me.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize this until I was an adult, and
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I realized that, Oh now I know why growing up
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. I never dared speak to the point of
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: if people ask me where you want to have lunch,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I don't even dare give my opinion, because the message
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: sent to me as a very young boy is no
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: one wants to hear you speak. You're nothing good to say.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Just shut up doing this, speaking in front of people,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: sometimes in front of thousands of people, is the grace
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: of God, I tell you, grace of God.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I still get nervous till today I.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Get more never speaking to all of you than thousands
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  Speaker 3: of people in other country. Trust me, really, I have
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  Speaker 3: to face you again next week. So these insecurities in
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: me is in my system and I deal with it better.
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  Speaker 3: I've known Jesus, I walk with him. I do with
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: it better now. I don't take things so personally now,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: but there are days. There are days where I accidentally
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: take things personally get rowled up. I'm trying to be
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: a better father. I'm trying not to shout on my
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: son so much. And I think I'm bringing better in
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: that I'm more calm, But there are days. This is
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: what it looks like if all these things in you
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: that you're trying to you. I've been spiritually formed to
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: be an insecure child slash adult.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: That's what I've been formed to become.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if I'll ever get rid of
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  Speaker 3: all of it. Even Paul says, I have a thorn
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  Speaker 3: in the flesh that God won't remove. I'm getting better,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: but there are days I fall, the days I fail.
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  Speaker 3: Persistence consistency is a journey. Remember this next libease, remember
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  Speaker 3: this meme. It's where I am. I'm a thousand kilometers
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  Speaker 3: away from where I need to be. It looks very
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  Speaker 3: far away. It looks impossible. It's so hard God, but
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: look when God. Wow. But I've come a long way,
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  Speaker 3: so I cannot go backwards. I must keep going forward.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: So Philippines two twelve to thirteen says this, therefore, my beloved,
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  Speaker 3: as you have always obeyed, So now, not only as
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  Speaker 3: in my presence, but much more in my absence, work
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Now, salvation
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: is not something you can do to get. It's not
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: by works. It's given to you you. But now that
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  Speaker 3: you have it, you work it out. It's like if
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: you have no muscles at all. So you say, let's
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: just say, some terrible accident happened. You lost your right arm.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: You lost your right arm. You have no right arm.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: You can't go to the gym, go through machine and
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: grow a right arm. You can't work out your right
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: arm because you have no right arm. You can even
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: go to the gym and work out your right arm
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  Speaker 3: if you have it. So salvation can only be worked
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  Speaker 3: out if you already have it. So get safe first.
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  Speaker 3: But once you're safe, you have a responsibility. You have
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  Speaker 3: a role to play.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: Most of the best things in our life is all
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: slow dripped over a lifetime. That's why you want to
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: get patience. It takes time. Pray for patience and go
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: or send you the most irritating annoying friend, takes time.
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  Speaker 3: Get used to the fact that it takes time, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: then give each other grace to be spiritually formed the
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  Speaker 3: Jesus way because it takes time.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Let's move on formation, transformation.
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  Speaker 3: All these words are used by Paul and it's the
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: word meta mophar oh for oh. It means to change
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  Speaker 3: into another form. You know what the English word is metamorphosis.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: It's the same word used in the process of when
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: the caterpillar turns into a papa, and a papa turns
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  Speaker 3: into a caterpillar.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, sorry, a butterfly. Ah your awake?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, good, Let's look at this process. Okay, there's many pictures.
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  Speaker 3: The lib I chose this on because it tells you
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: how many days it stays in the egg form, how
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: many days it stays the caterpillar stage. So it's like
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: eggs for the ten days, caterpillar eight to twenty one days,
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  Speaker 3: crystally six to twelve days, butterfly fourteen to twenty one days.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Although one particular but the fly or the monarch can
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: live up to two hundred days. Two hundred days, not
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  Speaker 3: even a year. What I want you to notice is
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: this the lifespan of being a butterfly is generally fourteen
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  Speaker 3: to twenty one days. The rest of it, you put
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  Speaker 3: it together, egg, caterpillar, crystalis all of that. It's either
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: just as long as the butterfly period or longer.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: That's the type of shit.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: That that that the piod of being a caterpillar, which
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: you're just crawling around like a baby Christian, like, oh,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: why can I pray?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Like like why can I pray like Josh yet? Oh?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Why can I do Bible study? Like Athon yet?
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  Speaker 1: Are yo?
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  Speaker 2: I'm crawling over here like a caterpillar. I can't wait
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: to get there.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: And and then you get put into a papa. You are
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: like in the dark. You don't know what's going on.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: What is God doing to me?
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  Speaker 2: Is he even here? I don't hear him. I don't
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  Speaker 2: see him.
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  Speaker 3: WHOA, those are very long. It looks like nothing's happening.
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  Speaker 3: But you are being formed. Can you please right now?
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  Speaker 3: Right off the back, get used to the fact that
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  Speaker 3: you're going to be longer in the echt to purproperio,
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  Speaker 3: then you're gonna be a butterfly.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: So beauty is formed through and over time and process.
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  Speaker 3: That's what's happening while you're in the dark. That's what's
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  Speaker 3: happening when you're not sure what God is doing. That's
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  Speaker 3: what's happening. When you're inching your way into God, closer
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  Speaker 3: to God. That's what's happening when sometimes you fall and
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  Speaker 3: get up again.
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  Speaker 2: Beauty is being farmed. Amen.
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  Speaker 3: We can see God's beauty and creativity through nature and creation.
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  Speaker 2: Roman t.
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  Speaker 3: One and twenty is for since the creation of the world,
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  Speaker 3: God's invisible qualities, his eternal power, and divine nature have
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  Speaker 3: been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made
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  Speaker 3: his creation, so that people are were excuse. You can
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: also use this verse for apologetic John fifteen sixteen fruit
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  Speaker 3: biding me, eyeing you, and you will bare fruit that
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  Speaker 3: will last. We're not talking about fleeting beauty. We're not
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  Speaker 3: just talking talking about the snowflag, snow flake and if
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  Speaker 3: you could see through the microscope the beauty of.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: It, not like come down and then it melts and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: it's gone. I'm talking about the kind of like.
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  Speaker 3: Like just once in a while, fire from the law,
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  Speaker 3: once in a while, kind of like we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: fruit that will last. That's the result of abiding in
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  Speaker 3: Christ persistently, consistently, you will produce fruit that will last,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: that will be durable. So what God is forming you
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  Speaker 3: through the establishing process is beauty that is durable. God
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: wants you to be beautiful but also durable. You were
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  Speaker 3: last the long haul, so God wants you to be
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: durably beautiful and durably fruitful. What took time to build
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  Speaker 3: can also stand the test of time, like the Grand Canyon.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, we've not been there, most of us,
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  Speaker 3: but there's a thing of beauty. It's a it's a
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: it's a nature like an almost freak of nature like.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: It took probably years and years and years and years
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  Speaker 3: to form, but it's not easily destroyed.
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  Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a process process now being formed, the process
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: of being formed.
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  Speaker 2: It's very intentional language.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: You are, you are being formed, So it's being formed
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: versus forming yourself. This TYPUSHI is not you trying to
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: make yourself something. You're already being formed. Another New Testament
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: synonym for transformation is actually salvation. So just like salvation,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: salvation is not something we do. Salvation is something that
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  Speaker 3: is done to us by God self.
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  Speaker 2: Here is something that can.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Only be done to us by God. So is discipleship.
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  Speaker 3: Transformation spiritual information. You are being formed. But because you
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  Speaker 3: are being formed, not forming yourself, you still have a
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  Speaker 3: role to play, just like your consciousness. Your consciousness already
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: in something somewhere, but you can direct it. That's your
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: role to play. Same thing here. The Bible says work
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: out your salvation. It clearly tells you you have a
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: role to play. Saint Augustine said this in the fourth century.
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  Speaker 3: Without God, I can't without him. I can't without us.
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  Speaker 3: He won't without him. We can't do this, but without us,
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  Speaker 3: he won't move. I like it in the Bahasa version too.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds good tampatuhan akut it ra mampu tapampaku to
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  Speaker 3: hunt it at mouth love. It sounds so poetic, But
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: it's just not just poetic for you. How you understand
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: that you have a role to play. In other words,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: if you make yourself wake up in the morning and
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: rich scripture, you are playing your part and working with God.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: If you refuse to wake up and reach scripture, you
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  Speaker 3: are still being From anyway, Jesus caused the foundation.
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  Speaker 2: Of a spiritual journey.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Poverty of spirit blessed a poor in spirit for theatre
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: see God Poverty of spirit. This is when he says,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I'm the vine, you are the branches. Without me, you
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: can do nothing. He didn't say you can do something,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: cannot do something. He didn't say no. He literally said,
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  Speaker 3: you can do nothing. Nothing of eternal value, nothing of value.
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  Speaker 3: You can do nothing. You are poor, You're in poverty
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  Speaker 3: of spirit. That's what he's saying.
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  Speaker 2: But he's saying it in a good way.
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  Speaker 3: He's saying you can do nothing. So body mean so
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: that it through me you can do everything. He's sitting
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  Speaker 3: in a good light, in a good way. So we
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  Speaker 3: all start from I truly have nothing. That's our spiritual journey,
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  Speaker 3: and it's in the poverty of spirit. Is in the
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: positive sense of the word. It's an understanding, acceptance, awareness
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  Speaker 3: that I am nothing. I have nothing apart from Christ.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good place to start. Salvation is God's work.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Salvation and transformation is God's work. Our role is to
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: make ourselves available to God to work. When you wake
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: up in the morning and spend time with God, that's
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: that's not you being super spiritual. And we also clept
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: for you and go wow, that's just going, Oh, you
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: made space for God to move. You were available. Now
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: God can speak us. When God speaks while you're sleeping,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: you cannot hear. Now that you're awake, maybe you can
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: hear some things. But the first thing to do is
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: wake up. So servation is God's work. Transformation is God's work.
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  Speaker 2: But our work our work. Our work is to be available.
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  Speaker 3: When you open the Bible, is not oh you so holy,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: you open the holy Bible.
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  Speaker 2: No, when you open the.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Bible is okay, I'm available now God, maybe you say something,
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  Speaker 3: maybe something maybe, because if you don't open nothing, what
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  Speaker 3: about at you? The essential function of all our spiritual disciplines,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: wake them in the morning, going to better than readers,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: verse spring, speaking in tongues, worship, singing songs, all these
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: good habits is to help you help us in our body,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: our mind to open deeper and deeper layers of ourselves
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: to God for him to transform us. Heal us, free us,
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  Speaker 3: liberate us, save us, which is the real work. You.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: You can't save yourself.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: You can free yourself, you can liberate yourself, you can
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  Speaker 3: transform yourself.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: You do all those hard work.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Pray, la, wakem in the morning, lad job lah, memorized chripture,
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  Speaker 3: line worship songs, la fast lave, all that just so
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  Speaker 3: that God can do the work. So the practices of Jesus,
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  Speaker 3: this way of life, this practicing, this way is not
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  Speaker 3: actually the Christian version of habit stacking.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: You hebit stacking. You start with a good habit.
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  Speaker 3: And then you stack out of good habits on t
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: and then after a while you become a healthy person,
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  Speaker 3: a fit line. You know, you wakem the morning, you
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  Speaker 3: drink Vita mix la, you run lah habit.
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  Speaker 2: You know we're not promoting a Christian version.
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  Speaker 3: Oh pray lad, Then speaking tonguelund and spiritual formation is
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  Speaker 3: not the Christianized version of project self. It is not
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: trying to make you a better version of you. The
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: world can do that, but the Bible is not interested
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  Speaker 3: in that. Not making you to be a more patient
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: person so the more people are like you, because if
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: you do that, it's still about you. Hey, not saying
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: that habits are a bad thing. I am trying to
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: change my habits. There is power in habits. Even non
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Christians who do non Christian habits can become a better
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: version of themselves. Listen, I know we've been talking about
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: habits the past two weeks and two days two but
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: habits are just a means to an end.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, ready for more shockers.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good practices, even good Christian habits like reading scripture,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: going to church, thank you for coming today, worship serving,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: all of that are good. You should do it. But
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: those are not the end goal, which also suggests if
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: you don't do it, you won't get your end goal
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 2: So do it.
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  Speaker 3: Your habits, however good they are, habits are not the
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: end goal. You are not the end goal. The end
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  Speaker 3: of yourself is the goal. We have to come to
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  Speaker 3: the end of ourself. You get to a point where
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  Speaker 3: I'm not doing this for me. I'm not stacking chairs
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  Speaker 3: for me. I'm not taking this position for me. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not praying three hours in tongues so that I can
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  Speaker 3: be super more spiritual than benihen no, no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 2: Habits are not the end goal.
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  Speaker 3: You are not the end goal. The end of yourself
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  Speaker 3: is the goal. Pastard words is probably crazy? Are the
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  Speaker 3: Bible said it? Whoever finds his life will lose it,
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  Speaker 3: and whoever loses his life will find it.
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  Speaker 2: Now, reading this after all he said, doesn't make more sense.
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  Speaker 2: Now what Jesus meant?
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  Speaker 3: If you live for you, you will end up not
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  Speaker 3: having you, you'll lose yourself.
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  Speaker 2: But if you don't live for you, you find out
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  Speaker 2: who you really are.
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  Speaker 3: Strange but true, because the end of yourself is the
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  Speaker 3: beginning of grace. Jesus is the end goal. Jesus is
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  Speaker 3: the end goal. Amen Philippines three. Paul is singer. Whatever
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  Speaker 3: again I had, and Paul before verse seven listed down
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  Speaker 3: all his medals and trophies and all his three tome three.
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  Speaker 2: Everything he listed. Then they said all.
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  Speaker 3: Of that in fact actually actually translated to dot poop.
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  Speaker 3: All of that is like thing compare to Christ. So
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  Speaker 3: he's doing this for the sake of Christ, surpassing world,
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  Speaker 3: knowing Christ. So everything compared to knowing Christ, Pursuing Christ.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus is the end goal. All of this I'm doing
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  Speaker 3: that I may gain Christ, not a CV, not a
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  Speaker 3: good resume, gain Christ, be found in Him that I
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  Speaker 3: may know Him, become like. So I proceeds. I press
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  Speaker 3: on the goal for the price of the upper call
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  Speaker 3: of God in Christ, Jesus. That's the goal. Not be
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  Speaker 3: a better version of myself, but be more like Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: If you really understand this, it will change your life.
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  Speaker 3: You'll be a different kind of dad, different kind of mom, husband, wife, son, daughter, employer, employee, lawyer, engineer,
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  Speaker 3: but friends. It's a long, slow process of being formed.
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  Speaker 3: And this is like the ancient sages and saints have
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  Speaker 3: taught us this. There's something called active spirituality and passive spirituality.
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  Speaker 3: Both are good. I'm not saying passive is bad, so
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  Speaker 3: so don't listen from that view active spiriturity versus passive spirituality.
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  Speaker 3: At this, spirituality is all the things that we do
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  Speaker 3: to be disciples of Jesus, like spiritually disciplines, pray, worship,
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  Speaker 3: give serf. Active if you are actively involved. Passive spirituality
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  Speaker 3: is all the things that God does in us. So
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  Speaker 3: active is what you do, passive is what God does.
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  Speaker 3: Both are happening. Amen, I have an illustration. I I
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  Speaker 3: mean it's not the best one because at some point
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  Speaker 3: the analogy falls apart, but it's good to start. It's
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  Speaker 3: like going to the bibber. Okay, let's just assume none
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  Speaker 3: of you can cut your own hair like most of us. Right,
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  Speaker 3: you have to go through the bubble and trust the
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  Speaker 3: hands of the other person working on your head making
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  Speaker 3: you look nice. You cannot sit at home and wish
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  Speaker 3: and then your hair just becomes nice.
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  Speaker 2: You can't. You can't.
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  Speaker 3: Just like I want better hair, you have to wake up,
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  Speaker 3: get up, guarantee your car, drive through the Bible, walk
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  Speaker 3: through the door, pay your price, sit there, let him
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  Speaker 3: work on you. You get in your car going to
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  Speaker 3: the bibble. That's active spirituality. You sitting down and just
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  Speaker 3: let the barber do his magic, that's passive spirituality.
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  Speaker 2: Amen. I don't have a I know, I know, I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I told you it's not the perfect analogy, but I
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  Speaker 3: think you get the point right.
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  Speaker 2: It's like going to the barber.
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  Speaker 3: You want a more spiritual scripture example, Potter and the Clay,
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  Speaker 3: Potter and the Clay. Basically, God is saying, Hey, I'm
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  Speaker 3: the Potter, you're the Clara. Hey, why so be saying?
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  Speaker 3: Can the clear down the porter?
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  Speaker 2: What to do?
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  Speaker 3: Which is what we are to trying to do God,
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  Speaker 3: this is this is how much I'll give to you.
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  Speaker 2: This is how much.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, you are the clearer. And if God says this
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  Speaker 3: is beautiful, this is beautiful. If God says you have
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  Speaker 3: to go to the capaign to be beautiful, that's that's
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  Speaker 3: what it's supposed to be. Am I eighteen six Romans
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  Speaker 3: nine twenty to twenty one Isaiah forty five, verse nine.
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  Speaker 3: All that goes such it up or just google put
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  Speaker 3: in the clay Philippines too. Work out your servation active, spirituality, passive.
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  Speaker 3: It's very important to know that you have a part
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  Speaker 3: to play, but God is actively doing his part.
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  Speaker 2: Is not all you. You just have to make yourself available. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: What the easiest examparkt uses wake come in the morning
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  Speaker 3: and just be there. Like David, every day he brings
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  Speaker 3: cheese to the brother. Such a minute task. The brothers
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  Speaker 3: all the re election fighting, they wow like all boys
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  Speaker 3: want to be heroes, warriors, champions.
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  Speaker 2: David take care, shep lines time, brings che to your brother.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine, David said, like some of us every week, watch
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  Speaker 3: cheir covers every week, put up bunting every week, make
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  Speaker 3: coffee every week, play drum every ana.
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  Speaker 2: That if that day they will say.
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  Speaker 3: They can take their own cheese, he will not meet
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  Speaker 3: go Liarth And I don't know why. When you get
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  Speaker 3: to heaven you can ask God. I don't know why
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  Speaker 3: God doesn't do it on the second day. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why the burning was won't happen on year one, No,
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  Speaker 3: has to be year forty. Why maybe something to do
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  Speaker 3: with process and beauty that takes time to build doesn't
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  Speaker 3: get easily taken away.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, something to.
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  Speaker 3: Do with age and papa, and I don't know why
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  Speaker 3: God doesn't do it on the seventh Day.
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  Speaker 2: But weeks and months, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: How long of taking bread and cheese, doing the same thing,
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  Speaker 3: being faithful, faithful, mundane. Then God shows up suddenly and
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  Speaker 3: he meets go Li Earth, He kills Go Li Earth.
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  Speaker 3: Rest is history. Joseph David Samson. Everybody, have you not learned?
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  Speaker 2: Amen? Thank you Jesus, who's very important. It's very important
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  Speaker 2: that we become.
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  Speaker 3: Disciples of Jesus because this is his invitation, this is
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  Speaker 3: his awful, this is him saying, if you live this way,
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  Speaker 3: it will lead to life.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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