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#318: New Fears Eve (2025) ft. Directors Eric Huskisson and P.J. Starks · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  Happy New Year. Happy New Year.
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  Welcome, 2026, unless you are one of our Patreon buddies
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  bubbies and can listen early. I guess that also depends on how
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  quickly Travis gets us edited this week.
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  Yeah, but it's 2026. It's the new year.
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  Welcome to What's Your Least Favorite Scary Movie?
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  The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly and
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  the absurd, and all of our favorite.
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  And least favorite scary movies? Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has its fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name's Travis.
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  My name's Jesse. And happy New Years again.
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  Happy new fears, New fears, do you?
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  Have a new fear? I have several.
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  I find something to be afraid of, something new to be afraid
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  of every day. New year, new fear.
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  That's my New Year's resolution. Yeah, so we're talking about new
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  Fears Eve. New movie that just came out is
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  some buddies of ours that are film makers here in Kentucky.
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  They finally got this movie release is out on screen box now
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  and this is gonna be a cool one because we've got a nice little
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  interview from them coming up here in the next little bit.
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  Yeah, we actually got a chance to sit down and talk with PJ and
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  Eric of Blood Moon Pictures, and we'll plug that in before we get
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  to our discussion. We just have a couple of
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  housekeeping items. We're gonna go over some of the
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  background information and then they are human Fun facts this
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  week on the episode. Yeah, yeah.
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  And that saves us a lot of time and effort.
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  We just got to talk to them and ask them questions.
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  Wait, we heard it straight from them?
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  Yeah. That's really cool.
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  Yeah. You're getting it right from
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  the, from the, the mouth of the people.
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  I I was trying to find the expression but I I lost it.
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  Straight from the horse's mouth. That's it.
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  I almost said the mouth of God, but that's I knew that was not
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  right. Expense PJ, but he doesn't need.
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  To You're not God. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm not.
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  I'm not calling you all God. OK, so let's get into it then.
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  New Fear's Eve released. Well, it premiered June 16th,
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  2024. We know that because we were
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  there at the premiere in Owensboro, KY.
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  Yep, in Owensboro, where the movie was made.
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  And it released wide released December 16th, 2025 on Screen
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  Box. We watched it on Prime because
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  we just chose to rent it because we don't have a screen box
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  subscription. Checked a little money towards
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  the movie. Yeah, if you want streaming,
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  it's got to be on screen box. Or if you want to rent it, you
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  can do it on Google, Roku, Plex, Prime or Fandango.
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  At Home. Written by PJ Starks.
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  Directed by Eric Huskisson and PJ Starks.
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  Music by Fred Dramani and special effects makeup by
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  Stephen Hodge and Rob Collins. Starring Lily Claire Harvey as
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  Leslie Starks, Turner Vaughn as Brian Storm, Matthew Tensioner
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  as Mose Moseley or Moses Moseley.
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  Hannah Firman as Samantha Wagner, Felissa Rosa Stephanie
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  Dave Sheridan as Mr. Dugan. Jeffrey Reddick as Norman
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  Perkins and featuring in a in a small role, Jesse Wilson as Amy
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  Holden. That's right, Jesse is in this
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  movie guys. So if you guys don't have any
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  desire to watch it for any other reason, you can at least watch
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  Jesse. I'm the one with blue hair next
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  to Jeffrey Reddick. Yeah, she's right next to
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  Jeffrey Reddick. You can't miss her blue hair.
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  All right, so it's time for her favorite game on the show Budget
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  or Button I. Mean, I know.
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  Yeah. I contributed to Indiegogo.
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  I knew what their goal was. You.
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  Funded this movie. In a way, partially, yeah.
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  So I do actually have a number for this.
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  Surprisingly, it's 75,000. We weren't able to confirm with
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  them if that was the real amount, but I think that's
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  accurate based off of their Indiegogo.
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  I don't know if they put this on their themselves or not, how
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  much of this information from the movie is from them directly
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  or if it's from like people doing it themselves.
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  But yeah, I mean. I mean, the Indiegogo's pretty
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  much public records, so. That's true, yeah.
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  I don't have any of the other financials since it went
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  straight to streaming, but I do have the IMDb and hey,
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  congratulations guys, it's Ada, It's in Woo.
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  That's pretty cool right there. Everybody go to IMDb and help
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  keep the score up. Yeah, we want a sequel and we
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  need everybody to watch this streaming, get good numbers.
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  That way there can be a sequel. That way there can be physical
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  releases. Yes.
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  And yeah, there's a lot of people can really help get this
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  thing released physically, because I want it physically.
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  We do not have it. Yeah, but no, I mean, that
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  number, it's like several 100 people.
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  So, you know, it's not like bullshit people.
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  Yeah, at that point, which is cool.
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  So I have a theme of three other movies that came out in 2025 to
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  compare to. OK.
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  And my theme is 90 Slashers are back baby.
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  All right, I like that. So the first one I know you did
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  last summer. That's right, that movie did
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  come out this year. Completely forgot about it until
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  I saw it on the list. We even went and saw it.
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  We saw it in theaters. Yeah, yeah.
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  It came out July 18th, 2025. It had $18 million for the
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  budget, made 64 million. Hopefully we remember about this
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  maybe in the summer so we can. We got to cover it.
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  We covered the other three. Yeah, Got to if I had to, if I
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  had to talk about. I'll always know what you did
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  last summer. I want to be able to talk about
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  this. Oh, you don't even know because
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  I haven't told you. But we're talking about much
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  worse than that later this month.
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  I. Don't know.
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  Yeah, please don't tell me you're making me do wrong Turn
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  6. I'm not saying anything, Kevin.
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  Your birthday moment. But if you look at our social
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  media, you'll know if Jesse was right or wrong about that.
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  OK, it's 5.1 out in on IMDBI. Don't know if that's a good or
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  bad thing that we didn't remember that I, you know, I
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  walked away from that movie not being 100% thrilled with if I
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  got to be honest. A lot of questions about like we
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  didn't get enough character resolution.
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  Yeah, I'm not gonna talk about a lot of my problems with it
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  because it'll be a massive spoiler for people out there.
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  Yeah. I just, I have questions.
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  I have questions that I want somebody to be able to answer.
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  Yes, OK, second movie, Clown in a cornfield.
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  Or, as Kendra calls it, corn in a clown field.
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  I think that's a more appropriate title for.
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  That I hope that's not too much of A spoiler for people that
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  haven't watched it. If you haven't watched it, go
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  watch it. It's fun.
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  Yeah, it's on shutter. I mean, it's called a clown in a
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  cornfield, obviously. It's clowns in a cornfield.
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  Like, I mean, well, it's singular here, but there may be
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  two. Don't spoil.
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  Anything. There might at least be two.
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  This is just going to be like 30 solid seconds of burn.
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  It could be, yeah. I just, I get vibes of like 90
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  slashes from the for some reason.
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  I don't know, it just kind of scratches that itch for me a
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  bit. I wonder how old the book is.
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  I don't know, I don't think it's that old actually.
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  Either way, it released May 9th, 2020.
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  Five, $1 million budget, $13 million gross, 5.6 IMDb and the
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  final movie, Fear St. Prom Queen because I mean it, it
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  feels 90s but it's also set in the 90s I think.
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  Yeah, and it's, I mean, obviously I feel like goosebumps
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  and Fear St. and all the RL Stein stuff is going to hit us
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  right where it lives, which is in our childhoods, which is in
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  the 90s. Yeah, it also felt very prom
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  night, which I don't know why. I also get like 90 fives from
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  that for whatever reason, I just do.
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  But that released May 23rd, 2025.
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  I don't have financials because it was a Netflix movie, but it's
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  5.1. It's in on IMDb.
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  All right, all right, Got 1 tag line.
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  All right, I hope they made it count.
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  I act like I don't know what. The you know what it is?
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  The doctor will slay you now. Yeah, that's not bad.
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  I think that fits pretty well with the tone of the movie they
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  have here. Yeah, no, I agree.
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  Yeah, And I imagine when we create our own tagline at the
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  end of the episode, it'll be just as cheesy, if not more.
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  Yes. All right, so as we said before,
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  we normally do fun facts during this time, but instead we're
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  gonna just turn it over to our buddies that made the movie and
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  and tell you some stuff straight from the mouth of gods.
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  All right. So now we want to take this
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  opportunity to welcome to the show 2 very special guests.
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  We've got local writers and directors, our friends from
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  Blood Moon Pictures. We have PJ Starks and Eric
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  Huskisson. Welcome you guys.
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  Hello, hello, hello. Thanks for having.
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  Thank you for having. Thanks for being here.
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  It's it's really cool to find, you know, be able to have you
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  guys on the show. It's really cool having like
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  local people, local film makers, especially representing
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  Kentucky, stuff like that. So yeah, thanks for being here.
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  Yeah, you guys got to be tired of getting all those real
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  celebrities on there. Yeah, we've had, we've had like
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  maybe one, we've had one other person I think, and it was David
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  Howard Thornton. David Howard Thornton.
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  We had Brandon Christensen. Oh yeah.
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  Brandon Christensen, yeah. And I'd be remiss not to mention
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  or a good pal, Robert O Tone. Oh, Robert, she's an author.
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  Author but so yeah, what's up did.
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  They get Did they get video as well?
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  No, no. OK, you're the only ones
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  actually. I'm calling foul, I'm calling
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  foul. Thank God they didn't see what
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  we looked like back then. Yeah.
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  It worked out great because, like David Howard Thornton,
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  we're going to spend this whole entire time talking about how
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  much we hate Trump. We want to like just dedicate
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  this entire section to that. I'm down with it.
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  I'm kidding. All right, cool.
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  So, yeah, I mean new Fields of Eve.
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  I'm really excited that you guys finally got this out.
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  And I think it's awesome that you guys got it as like a screen
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  box exclusive too. That's got to be awesome.
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  I'll take it. Never, never, never expected
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  that. And I will take it most
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  definitely. It looks like they're.
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  Kind of we held off, you know, trying to get something like
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  with every project bigger, better.
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  And we were trying to see, you know, what bigger, better
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  opportunities we could get with distribution.
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  And it came along. So the weight paid off because I
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  mean, you all were a part of the project.
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  So I'm sure you all were on. I mean, now you came to the
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  premiere, so you got a chance to to see the film, but there's so
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  many other people who are a part of it who haven't had a chance
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  to see it. So like, I can't imagine what
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  the wait was like for them because yeah, it, we waited a
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  while, but it was all for better, you know?
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  We're getting a lot. We're getting a lot of people
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  about damn time. Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's for people. I'm not gonna lie, I was kind of
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  thinking the same thing myself because like I was like, damn.
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  Like we watched that back in summer last year.
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  I was like, I was really looking forward to, you know, I'm glad
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  you guys finally got into my. Time too, like I hope to God our
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  next film, we already have a deal before we get started
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  because that year and a half liked to kill me.
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  You know, just, you know, you all think you all are impatient
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  or anybody else was impatient. Geez, I just kept going to PJ
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  until, until we sign that until we sign on that down a lot.
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  I'm I'm, I'm not going to be calm about this at all because
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  it was just I just kept thinking, Oh, we're never going
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  to sign. We're never going to sign.
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  Yeah, I imagine it's got to be pretty tough.
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  Like especially being indie, you guys got to like you guys got to
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  go find them. And I mean, I guess you guys
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  could have like self released too, but you know, like
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  definitely waiting it out. Definitely benefited.
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  Well, the movie was going to come out.
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  We we knew we were going to have distribution.
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  We just like PJ started to say, we just, we just waited it out
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  hoping for bigger and better. And I think, I think it worked
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  out for us. I mean, we've, we've done really
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  well with Justin Scream team releasing.
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  Nope, no, no, no negatives at all about Scream team releasing
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  at all. We just wanted to go a little
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  bit different route this time, go a little bit a little bigger
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  and better. And it, it worked out, It panned
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  out. It was just a lot of lot of non
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  patients on my part. I got to ask that does that like
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  are you guys going to be able to release physical too?
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  Yeah, so it yes and no. Yes.
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  In the sense that we worked out a deal with Syniverse while they
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  have physical rights, we get to make enough Blu rays that will
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  fulfill the contributions through the Indiegogo's
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  Everybody. You got a Blu-ray via the the
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  campaign, they'll get the movie on Blu-ray, but then beyond
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  that, anything that gets released will be done.
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  So through Syniverse. Now they haven't said anything
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  to us specifically as to how or when they're going to release
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  the movie because we're doing Blu rays only.
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  They may end up doing their own version that's a DVD that they
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  do DVD and Blu-ray. But I think ultimately when and
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  if that happens will be based off the strength of the response
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  through streaming. So if anybody is a physical
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  media care, you know. That's I am, I say probably most
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  of our, probably most of our, Yeah.
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  So I know it, I know it sucks to go this route, but like, the
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  best way to ensure the fact that the movie's going to get
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  physical release is to go watch and support and share the movie
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  in its streaming version. Because Cena versus if if it
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  looks like there's not a whole lot of interest in the film,
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  they're not going to have any interest in releasing the movie.
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  But if it looks like enough people are interested in the
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  film to watch it on streaming, what are the possibilities when
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  it if you know, for a physical release?
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  So that's the only way we can see it happening, them releasing
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  their own version. And I'm going to go ahead and
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  guess that the same is probably true.
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  You've hinted that you you have ideas for sequels, so I'm going
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  to assume the sequel possibility is also probably tied to its
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  success. Or are you going to do it
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  anyway? It's.
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  Kind of another, yes, yes. No, OK.
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  So as with as with any situation, like with Syniverse
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  being a studio now and a bigger company, our hope is that if it
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  once again it does well enough for them and it makes a mark,
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  then they'll go, oh, these guys really have something here.
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  So then when we go to start making the sequel, they'll want
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  to get on board and be a part of the film financially.
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  What those metrics are for success, we have no idea that.
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  I mean, even even well on streaming for them may still not
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  equal like, Oh yeah, these it it's worthy of us to financially
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  back a sequel. We really want to make a sequel.
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  We're going to do another movie. We really hope that it's Part 2
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  for New Fear's Eve. Because yeah, like I've got the
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  whole idea fleshed out. I have about 11 pages of it
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  written so far and I'm probably going to sit down after the
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  first of the year to really start putting pen to paper.
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  But as far as when it's going to happen, we hope it's sooner
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  rather than later. And we really want to do our
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  best to avoid the trappings of having to go the route of doing
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  another campaign not to have to do that.
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  I mean, and that's not like that's not shitting on the
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  process for doing campaigns because it's, it's a great way
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  for people who love independent film to be able to jump on board
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  and support the movie because it is a goods and services thing.
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  It's, I mean, there's, there's a bit of Eric and I where we're
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  like, we feel bad reaching out and asking friends, family and
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  total strangers to kind of support our bad habit.
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  But at the same time, it's like everybody who does get on board,
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  they they're getting something. Yeah.
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  Yeah, that's what happened with me.
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  I was very much like, hey, I want a chance to do this.
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  I'm going to support these two people I know and like their
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  work, and I'm also going to be a part of it.
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  And then I also forked over some more money as I was leaving
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  sets. That way I could keep my shirt.
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  We got hung up here. It's on our museum wall of all
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  of our worst stuff here. That's really cool.
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  Yeah. You guys had, like, a really
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  interesting, like, campaign, too.
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  I liked how you guys did it, like, where people could be a
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  part of the movie. I mean, that that alone ramped
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  up your all's body count in this movie, right?
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  Like that was like why you guys have so many deaths in the first
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  place. Yeah, there was 19 in the
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  original script and then by the time we did the You Can Die in
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  the film opportunity and it went over to over 40 total by the
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  time like the the film was said and done so.
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  I can imagine that kind of makes you shit yourself a little bit
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  though, like figuring out how to do all that.
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  I told PJS that it's a lot of money, we need it, but we're
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  done. Cut it off.
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  I feel like you kind of like you kind of have to do each of them
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  in a unique way too, or else you're kind of short changing
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  people because like I feel like everybody kind of got their own
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  highlight death in this too. Yeah.
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  And I mean, and that was on purpose because that was the one
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  thing I didn't want to do. So I even when when Eric and I
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  came up with, OK, so we're going to do this where we allow people
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  to come be a part of the film and get killed in the movie.
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  We're both big proponents for special like practical effects.
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  So we knew we were going to be going in.
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  But that was like, one of the things I said from day one is I
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  was like, if we're going to do this, everybody to the best of
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  our ability is going to get their own individualized kill.
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  Now, there were a couple of sequences in the movie where it
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  became necessary to do it, where, you know, we had the
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  triple. Throat lift.
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  And that was a bad ass. I like that, yeah.
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  That was. A cool move.
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  And then the triple axe kill and that kind of became necessity
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  because it got to a point where I was like, holy shit, we got so
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  many people we got to kill. Like I started and I'm like the,
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  I'm a gore guy and I'm, I love a good death in a movie, but like
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  even I started to struggle with ways of, of killing people after
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  a while. So I was like, how are we going
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  to kill? So I was like, OK, well, we'll
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  kill these three in one fell swoop with an axe.
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  We'll kill these three, you know, with a scalpel and hope
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  the audience is along for the ride.
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  But for the like you were saying like the majority of it,
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  everybody who came on board the project who got to death, like
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  they got their own individualized kill in some form
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  or fashion, which I think surprised a lot of people.
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  Not just like the viewers, I'm saying like the people who came
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  on board. I know Kent specifically had
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  told Eric and I and he was one of the ones who was part of the
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  triple throat slit. But like he expected to come on
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  set and then just get some blood thrown on him and that was
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  going. To be the.
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  Extent of it, but I mean, he went through the whole process.
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  He went through makeup, he had a prosthetic put on his throat, he
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  had blood pumping out. I mean, he was.
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  So excited when he found out he was getting a prosthetic put on
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  him. He was so excited.
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  That's awesome. And I think that there was
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  several others along the way that were like, oh, oh, so we're
• 19:05
  doing this. This is how it's going to
• 19:07
  happen. So I think a lot of people got
• 19:09
  surprised and then of course, you know, people watching the
• 19:11
  film. I mean, there's everybody who's
• 19:14
  reached out to me to say, hey, I like the movie.
• 19:17
  I was, you know, I was pleasantly surprised.
• 19:19
  It was a great time. This.
• 19:20
  I would always, I always ask somebody, what was your favorite
• 19:23
  kill? Because there's so many, there's
• 19:25
  so many different options for what could be a favorite kill.
• 19:28
  And we get a lot, or I've gotten a lot of the same answers, you
• 19:32
  know, Felicia's death. Or.
• 19:35
  The the killdo, but I've gotten a lot of the other.
• 19:39
  The triple throw slit has been one the eyes being ripped out.
• 19:44
  His was another one, which I'm sure surprises Eric because he
• 19:47
  he, I think he said he hated that one.
• 19:49
  I like the your brain on drugs at the very beginning that.
• 19:52
  One's good, yeah. Like with the 2 the two pans in
• 19:55
  the kitchen. 2 Frying. Pans, yeah.
• 19:57
  So yeah, there's a lot of different ways that people die
• 19:59
  in this movie, and originally every because it's the doctor,
• 20:04
  the way it was written was everyone got killed by like a
• 20:08
  surgical implement. In some way, but after a while
• 20:12
  when you start getting up there, it's like there's the the the
• 20:16
  ways people can die by surgical implementation is like less and
• 20:22
  less so then I was like, all right, so they get killed by an
• 20:24
  axe He rips. You know, he let's, let's, let's
• 20:28
  take away, you know, physics and say he can RIP someone's throat
• 20:31
  out with just his bare hand, you know, so.
• 20:33
  I got to admit though, there was one I noticed the the detail
• 20:36
  like the crossbow. He had the scalpel as like the
• 20:39
  arrow instead. That was pretty cool.
• 20:41
  That was pretty inventive, but. Yeah, that was another one
• 20:44
  someone actually point which made me feel good because
• 20:46
  there's deaths when you when you go into it, like when I wrote
• 20:49
  the kills, the toilet kill and the kill though, were the 2 that
• 20:55
  I told Eric like these are if if this film is remembered for
• 20:58
  anything, it's going to be one of these two specifically the
• 21:02
  kill, though, But it's nice when people say, oh, the crossbow
• 21:07
  kill was really cool or you know, whatever.
• 21:11
  I'm there's so many deaths. I'm brain farting on other kills
• 21:14
  in the movie but it's. Like it's, it's amazing.
• 21:16
  Out other deaths it's it's awesome.
• 21:18
  It's amazing the amount of people that ood and awed and
• 21:21
  grimaced during the girl getting her head sawed through.
• 21:25
  That's the one that I think, yeah.
• 21:27
  I mean, it's surprising that the amount of audiences we've
• 21:30
  watched and during that scene, but that's not one that a lot of
• 21:34
  people come up and say, oh, that was my favorite 1.
• 21:36
  I don't think I've ever had anybody come up to me and say
• 21:39
  anything about it, but we've gotten a lot of oohs and AWS and
• 21:42
  like, Oh my God kind of comments during all the all the ones we
• 21:46
  watched. I promise you.
• 21:47
  Like when we were talking about that, that was in my head, like
• 21:50
  I was thinking about that one. So that one was pretty bad ass.
• 21:53
  Yeah, that girl, that girl came out of nowhere too.
• 21:55
  That we get. So we get so lucky.
• 21:58
  Well, what? What are your all's favorite
• 22:01
  kills, both in terms of what are your favorite ones to film and
• 22:05
  what are your favorite end products once you've seen
• 22:08
  everything on screen together? I was going to let Aaron go. 1st
• 22:13
  and. I talked.
• 22:14
  So much about. Yeah, well, honestly, honestly,
• 22:19
  just from audience participation and watching, of course, the
• 22:24
  killdo scene, killdo scene. But my my favorite, my favorite
• 22:28
  one honestly, is the big massacre room with the guy with
• 22:33
  the saw on the neck and then that one, and then all the and
• 22:37
  then all the clicking and everybody else is getting sawed
• 22:40
  under the sheets and all that. I just, I, I love how that goes
• 22:44
  from beginning to end. Not just it's a great kill, it's
• 22:48
  just, it's it. It's the way he pieced it and
• 22:51
  the way it was just. I got saw vibes from that scene.
• 22:55
  Was that inspired by that at all?
• 22:57
  100%. OK, cool.
• 23:00
  As a matter of fact, when when Frank was scoring the movie,
• 23:06
  because I told him, like going into it, I said, look, when you
• 23:09
  score the film, I want you to think of scores like Urban
• 23:12
  Legend or I Know What You Did Last Summer because they're real
• 23:14
  big orchestral feel. But when he got to that scene,
• 23:19
  he actually messaged me and he said, can can I do the music for
• 23:22
  this part very similar to how the music is in a Saw film.
• 23:27
  And it said, 100% do it. Absolutely.
• 23:31
  Because yeah, there's a lot of not just references to other
• 23:34
  horror films, but there are like homages from the way things were
• 23:37
  shot and done. And that that scene specifically
• 23:39
  was, was definitely an homage to Saw, like in every way.
• 23:44
  And I'd say that's probably the the moment in the movie each
• 23:49
  time we've watched it, where like, I start to actually feel
• 23:52
  that sense of dread where it's like, OK, we're in a horror
• 23:55
  movie. Shit's about to go down.
• 23:57
  You see this one guy and you're like, oh, no, this is bad.
• 24:00
  And then all of a sudden they all go, all of these tables are
• 24:02
  going off. And you know what's happening
• 24:04
  even without seeing it. And it's just so well done, you
• 24:08
  guys. Yeah.
• 24:09
  Well, thank you. The the way it was written was
• 24:11
  actually more complex than what you see on the screen.
• 24:15
  But it came down to just time, the amount of time because there
• 24:18
  was a lot of time put into just the preparation for that scene
• 24:23
  because we had to construct all the tables and figure out, you
• 24:26
  know, the bodies and how we were going to go about everybody
• 24:29
  getting saw it. So there was a lot more to that
• 24:31
  scene visually. But then we had to start making
• 24:34
  some compromises once it came down to the way we were actually
• 24:37
  shooting it. I love the way it turned out.
• 24:41
  There were a lot more moving parts to that scene based off
• 24:44
  the way it was written. But honestly, like, my favorite
• 24:49
  kill in the movie was one is is one that really nobody has
• 24:53
  talked about yet. But that's the one where Emily's
• 24:58
  head is slammed against the glass door until skull cracks.
• 25:03
  Yeah, it's funny because, like, the way we shot it there it he
• 25:08
  slammed her head probably about 12 times against the door.
• 25:11
  So it just kept going and going and going.
• 25:14
  So when Eric and Jeffrey both watched the original edit, they
• 25:17
  were like, is there any way you can cut that down a little?
• 25:20
  Bit. It kind of goes on and on and on
• 25:22
  and on. Well, I mean, we honestly had no
• 25:25
  sound with it. Well, that was the other thing
• 25:28
  too. Yeah, because Eric originally
• 25:31
  he, he did not like that kill with like before all the sound
• 25:35
  design and the music was there. Cuz looking at it, it did look
• 25:39
  it looks very cheesy. It wasn't completely edited,
• 25:42
  there was no no no sound to it, and it looked like somebody
• 25:45
  holding a fake cheapo head hitting it up against the glass
• 25:49
  door. That's exactly what the sound is
• 25:51
  though, right there. Sound and then and then the
• 25:53
  editing part, right? Yeah, and it's funny cuz like
• 25:57
  Eric said, that he goes, it looks like somebody's slamming a
• 26:00
  dummy against the door and I go, Eric, we are slamming a dummy
• 26:03
  against. It but.
• 26:05
  It's not, but it's not supposed to look like that.
• 26:10
  I guess like to kind of follow up on before, like you're
• 26:13
  talking about having to like cut down on that one scene.
• 26:16
  So like did you guys have any other like kill your darling
• 26:19
  type moments? Like how?
• 26:20
  Like how much did that come up in this movie where you had to
• 26:22
  like, scale back on things that you were originally planning to
• 26:26
  be a little bit bigger scale than what you could do?
• 26:29
  Well, there's a I mean there is a kill in the in the 1st 5
• 26:32
  minutes. It's the one with the.
• 26:34
  The hedge trimmers are not. Burning.
• 26:38
  I call that the burning kill. It's.
• 26:39
  The burning kill, right? Because originally the way the
• 26:43
  kill went was it went down in his mouth, into the back of his
• 26:47
  throat and he opened it and it split his.
• 26:51
  Head. And then the his head was
• 26:53
  supposed to like flop back and the special effect did not work.
• 27:00
  It did not. It didn't work.
• 27:01
  I tried to edit around it to where it, you know, like, and I
• 27:05
  just kept cutting it down and cutting it down and cutting it
• 27:08
  down. Because the one thing I hate
• 27:09
  more than anything is I hate in movies where you start to see
• 27:13
  the kill, it cuts away and then you only see the aftermath.
• 27:16
  Nothing annoys me more than that.
• 27:19
  You have to do cutaways a lot of time less unless you put CG into
• 27:23
  it. You have to do cutaways if
• 27:24
  you're doing practically to, you know, to cut around certain
• 27:28
  aspects because a lot of time the effects are done in stages.
• 27:32
  But with that one, there was no saving it even with, you know,
• 27:37
  even with special editing. So I did have to cut away where
• 27:42
  you only see like the blood spray on the mask of the Doctor
• 27:45
  and that bugged the shit out of me.
• 27:47
  But the only thing I felt was the saving grace was the fact
• 27:50
  that it it was very the kill itself was meant to be an homage
• 27:54
  to the burning. So I felt like as a horror fan,
• 27:58
  that that worked well enough. And plus, it was one of the
• 28:02
  first kills, and the kills get gradually and gradually more
• 28:06
  violent throughout the beginning.
• 28:08
  But just saying something when you somebody's throat is ripped
• 28:11
  off in the 1st 45 seconds of a movie.
• 28:14
  Right. That's actually one of my
• 28:16
  favorite effects in the movie too.
• 28:18
  And The funny thing is you wouldn't even know this, but so
• 28:21
  Josh Siegel, who is our script supervisor on the film, he also
• 28:26
  does visual effects. So when we got like when I got
• 28:31
  the film finished, there were a lot of stuff throughout the
• 28:34
  movie where it was like, oh man, I wish we could cover this up or
• 28:37
  cover that up. Well, we ended up getting with
• 28:40
  Josh and he went through the movie and he covered up logos
• 28:46
  and seems on certain like where you could tell there was a
• 28:50
  special effects stuff. So there's about 53 visual
• 28:53
  effects in the movie throughout, but you would never know because
• 28:56
  they're so small. Little like minor little tweaks
• 29:00
  and edits. Nothing.
• 29:01
  There's it's funny because I always say this, I'm I'll at
• 29:04
  some point during an interview, I'll go, there's no digital
• 29:06
  blood. And there it goes at no, there
• 29:08
  is digital blood and it's, it's seen on the triple ax kill where
• 29:12
  the axe comes down into the camera.
• 29:16
  That is a reverse shot that we did.
• 29:20
  And so there was no way for us to be able to have dripping
• 29:22
  blood on the axe because otherwise it would be coming
• 29:24
  back up onto. So when I talked to Josh, I was
• 29:27
  like, is there any way you can add some dripping blood on the
• 29:30
  axe? And he did it.
• 29:32
  And unless you look really, really close or you're told it's
• 29:37
  digital blood, nobody notices that it's digital blood.
• 29:41
  Nice, it all looks seamless to me.
• 29:42
  I I thought it was 100% practical.
• 29:45
  It even blew Eric away because when he first saw it, he was
• 29:47
  like, wait, that's digital blood because he wasn't real on board
• 29:51
  with the digital blood idea until he saw it.
• 29:53
  And then he was like, Oh yeah, that works.
• 29:55
  That works great. So Josh did an awesome job.
• 29:59
  And that was so going back to the throat.
• 30:00
  RIP. Originally the whole thing is a
• 30:03
  prosthetic and you could see almost a seam that went because
• 30:08
  the prosthetic went around his whole entire neck area, but you
• 30:11
  could see a seam and it didn't match.
• 30:14
  And I was like, Oh my God, how are we going to fix that?
• 30:16
  Well, Josh fixed it. And Travis will tell you this,
• 30:20
  I'm a very annoying person because I love playing around
• 30:23
  with special effects and I'll be like, I didn't see the edge of
• 30:25
  the scar wax there on her forehead.
• 30:27
  I'm a very annoying movie watching partner in that
• 30:31
  respect. But I didn't have it really any
• 30:32
  opportunities to do that during this, which is it says a lot
• 30:36
  about how how well everything got smoothed over and and just
• 30:40
  all of the care that was put in this movie behind the scenes.
• 30:43
  And Travis, you were mentioning earlier about the crossbow.
• 30:47
  What's funny about that far into the this in post, you know, we
• 30:51
  keep, we watch it and watch it and watch it catch stuff, you
• 30:54
  know, listen to sound, look at color and all that.
• 30:56
  And I'm watching it and I'm like, well, right as he lifts up
• 31:00
  that crossbow, there's the name of the crossbow all the way
• 31:02
  across the cross. And there's a there's a name on
• 31:06
  the arrow. And I'm like, PJ, he goes, OK,
• 31:09
  we'll just get Josh, see if you take it out.
• 31:11
  Because I mean, we know nobody noticed it.
• 31:14
  I mean, we were about done, like, well, this is it.
• 31:16
  Yeah, let's watch it one more time.
• 31:18
  And it was late in post. And I'm like, look at that right
• 31:21
  there. And I mean, it was so obvious it
• 31:22
  was there, but we never caught it before.
• 31:25
  And those are the types of things that you don't think
• 31:27
  about as like a human in everyday life, just how branded
• 31:31
  everything is. But I saw where you guys filmed
• 31:34
  the office locations, obviously, and that is a very real working
• 31:39
  building. And watching the movie last
• 31:41
  night, I was just kind of blown away at how much it looks like
• 31:44
  its own office that you can't tell what the company actually
• 31:49
  is. Yeah, you know, actually
• 31:50
  speaking on that, how do you guys like, fuck that place up so
• 31:53
  badly and like, make it still fine on Monday?
• 31:57
  You know, like, how is that even possible?
• 32:00
  We have really great cruise. OK, Yeah.
• 32:04
  I mean, I mean, yeah, yeah. Of dedicated people who are
• 32:08
  ready to clean as soon as we're finished.
• 32:12
  Well, and it's going into the location scout, it's going to
• 32:14
  the location scout going, we can make this work here, we can do
• 32:17
  this here. And then, you know, you just go
• 32:20
  in, like you said, you do the prep work, put the Hooper signs
• 32:22
  on all the doors and knowing where not to splash the blood.
• 32:27
  And I mean, we had restrictions in that building.
• 32:29
  That building is one whole building, but about 1/3 of the
• 32:33
  building is another business. Now, we had permission to film
• 32:37
  in the hallways there, but not in the offices, only the other
• 32:41
  side, which was actually the realtor company.
• 32:44
  We were allowed to go in any office and do anything we wanted
• 32:47
  to. So we only could film in the
• 32:50
  hallways on about 1/3 of that building.
• 32:52
  But I mean, yeah, we, we, we go through a lot of wipes, lot of
• 32:56
  paper towels, a lot of cleaning supplies.
• 32:59
  There's a lot of blood in this movie, so.
• 33:01
  We go through at the end and check walls and check floors and
• 33:05
  just make sure there's nothing we missed.
• 33:06
  And we did find some some blood splatter on some walls and we
• 33:09
  had to get some paint and paint over.
• 33:10
  Oh. Damn.
• 33:12
  Yeah, yeah, that was, well, it wasn't even just the special
• 33:16
  effects stuff like we, there's the hallway scene where the
• 33:20
  doctor comes, you know, and he guts that guy and stabs the girl
• 33:23
  in the throat with the Corkscrew.
• 33:26
  But up on the wall, we had that big banner which got used 1000
• 33:29
  times, the Happy New Year's banner.
• 33:32
  And we would use gaffer tape. And gaffer tape is supposed to
• 33:35
  be made not to RIP paint off of walls.
• 33:40
  So we put that sign up or the banner up and then we go to take
• 33:45
  the banner down and it ripped a softball sized piece of the
• 33:50
  paint off the wall. And immediately we were like,
• 33:53
  oh, fuck. And we're like halfway through
• 33:56
  shooting at this point. We're like, Oh no, they're going
• 33:59
  to tell us that we have to get out of the building.
• 34:01
  They're going to We don't, we're not going to have a place to
• 34:03
  film anymore. So immediately I'm calling Matt,
• 34:06
  who is the contact who allowed us to come in there to like
• 34:10
  film. And I'm like, I'm so sorry.
• 34:12
  And he's laughing because he it's like it's just paint, you
• 34:15
  know, come in after the fact repainted.
• 34:17
  It's not that big a deal. But the other funny thing as far
• 34:20
  as like cleaning goes, I watch certain kills in the movie and
• 34:25
  while they're not as bloody in the film, the amount of clean up
• 34:29
  that we had to do after the fact, For instance, spilling the
• 34:35
  the shot where you see the guts spill out on the floor, which
• 34:39
  was real pig intestines by the way, it took so long to clean
• 34:45
  that up and we had to do it three different times.
• 34:48
  So we had to reset. But just to give you an idea,
• 34:51
  when you see that shot on the floor, the prep that went into
• 34:55
  just getting that shot, because we had to go out, we had to buy
• 34:59
  fake flooring. Oh my God.
• 35:01
  That's a fake wall. So when you see him standing
• 35:05
  there, so that way when the guts hit, we knew it would splatter
• 35:09
  out. So on one side, one whole actual
• 35:12
  wall is tarped. The entire hallway floor is
• 35:15
  tarped. Then the fake floor is laid down
• 35:18
  on top of the tarp and then up behind him where he's standing,
• 35:22
  which actually in that shot is me standing there and I'm
• 35:28
  holding a bowl with the guts and just dumping it on the floor.
• 35:33
  But that's a fake wall. I mean, really, we could have
• 35:35
  shot it anywhere. But we all, I mean, we shot
• 35:37
  everything on location. And but yeah, the amount of prep
• 35:42
  work that went into it. And then Felicia's death in the
• 35:45
  bathroom. There was so much blood on the
• 35:48
  floor and we we were run and gun by.
• 35:51
  The. Toilet.
• 35:53
  Yeah, at the toilet. I mean, the whole entire floor
• 35:56
  was covered. The toilet was covered in blood
• 36:00
  and it was me and Ryan McCain who was one of our P as on the
• 36:05
  film, and he was incredible. But I can remember he and I sat
• 36:09
  there for 15 minutes twice, so 30 minutes, cleaning up all the
• 36:14
  blood. And then we would like there was
• 36:17
  a leak on the toilet. So every time we flushed it,
• 36:20
  blood would come out from where the toilet and the floor met.
• 36:24
  So we would have to keep cleaning the blood until we
• 36:27
  flushed the toilet and no more blood would come out.
• 36:29
  Wow. But yeah, so.
• 36:31
  And of course, you don't see any of that.
• 36:33
  And the scene itself is like 15 seconds long.
• 36:36
  It's an amazing scene though. You should have left.
• 36:39
  You should have left all of that in the toilet.
• 36:40
  The leaking blood toilet. Yeah, like leave that there and
• 36:43
  then whoever comes in the next day is like.
• 36:45
  What the I'm going to turn that into an urban legend, people
• 36:47
  tell the leaking hot toilet. It's not a great shot of the
• 36:51
  toilet and everything covered in blood, so it's out there
• 36:54
  somewhere to where you can see it.
• 36:56
  I hate to have to end this, but we're about to get kicked off of
• 36:59
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  I know. Yeah, so fast.
• 37:06
  Not nearly enough time. But we really appreciate you
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  Right. Cool.
• 37:52
  Well, yeah, it's awesome having you guys here.
• 37:54
  I'm so glad we finally got. To talk about this for having
• 37:57
  us. These guys have other good
• 37:59
  movies too. 13 Slice of Christmas.
• 38:01
  Which we talked about on the show previously, it's a it's an
• 38:04
  annual watch for us. Volumes of blood, right?
• 38:07
  Yep. Did you watch it on Ronda
• 38:08
  Shearer the other night? 13th slice.
• 38:10
  No, I saw that was on there though.
• 38:12
  That was really cool. I'm really proud of you guys for
• 38:14
  like getting that on there. That's awesome.
• 38:16
  We like you. That on physical media.
• 38:18
  Yeah, we have the blue. Yeah, we bought that was here
• 38:20
  fest. Yeah.
• 38:22
  We've seen it at Half Price Books too, which is wild.
• 38:24
  That's true, yeah. We saw it on the Wild.
• 38:26
  Yeah. All right.
• 38:28
  Cool. Well, unfortunately we got to
• 38:29
  wrap this up. It's going to kick us off here
• 38:31
  in a second, but thank you guys again so much.
• 38:33
  Thank you. Do it again soon.
• 38:36
  Yes, All right. So a lot of little fun
• 38:41
  information from them on that, some of that stuff that we
• 38:44
  didn't even know. Yeah, honestly, it could have
• 38:46
  went on a lot longer, but our free Zoom 40 minute thing went
• 38:51
  up on us there. We are also in indie production.
• 38:54
  Yeah, that's right. Yeah, if you want us to have
• 38:56
  longer, less time sensitive interviews, we need more
• 39:02
  patience. We do, yeah.
• 39:03
  That way we can pay for services, yeah.
• 39:05
  And goods, yeah. And yeah, that's capitalism.
• 39:10
  Maybe. Yep, we're all stuck in it.
• 39:12
  Yep, unfortunately. OK, so I guess with that out of
• 39:15
  the way, we're just going to go on into our thoughts on a good,
• 39:17
  bad, ugly and absurd. So Jesse, you kick it off.
• 39:20
  What'd you like? Oh, well, this is a horror movie
• 39:23
  made by people who love horror movies.
• 39:25
  And I always love when you can tell that because even if we
• 39:29
  didn't know PJ and Eric, even even if we hadn't met them and
• 39:32
  befriended them at a horror convention.
• 39:34
  Yeah. That is where we met them.
• 39:35
  It is still very clear that they have a lot of love for the
• 39:39
  genre. Lots of like subtle and not so
• 39:42
  subtle homages. Yeah, some amazing kill scenes.
• 39:47
  Yeah, this movie is loaded with a lot of.
• 39:49
  Them yeah and it's it's kind of great that they ended up doing
• 39:52
  that Indiegogo perk I don't remember what exactly what it
• 39:57
  called but where they where you could pay to be killed on screen
• 40:01
  and they're added so many more deaths with this which.
• 40:05
  I had the potential to make the Doctor be kind of a confusing
• 40:07
  character, but I love, I love horror villains that are just
• 40:11
  like opportunists, like Art the Clown or Jason Voorhees.
• 40:14
  I always down the hill then. Jason Voorhees is an opportunist
• 40:18
  when it comes to his murder weapons.
• 40:19
  People just choose to focus on the machete.
• 40:22
  It's true, he like I most movies he's not using the machete for
• 40:26
  most of us kills. Yeah right.
• 40:28
  You know, I really don't understand.
• 40:30
  Is it because the 1st 1 ended with the mom getting decapitated
• 40:33
  with one? I don't.
• 40:34
  Know, I really don't know. I don't either, but.
• 40:37
  He does have a signature weapon in a way.
• 40:39
  Here, he's got a scalpel. Yeah, he's got a scalpel.
• 40:42
  I I think that it it does feel like it's a full 95 minutes,
• 40:47
  which is what the runtime is, but it it goes by at a pretty
• 40:50
  quick clip. Yeah, it's cuz he's got so many
• 40:52
  people to kill. Yeah, and PJ definitely puts in
• 40:55
  a lot of humor into his writing. So there's a few few laugh out
• 40:59
  loud lines. I think my favorite one is it
• 41:02
  Oh, it's never a good time for vaginitis.
• 41:04
  Oh God, yeah. Actually that whole scene was
• 41:07
  great because I like the whole part of the most.
• 41:09
  Just like using the lotion as to like emulate coming.
• 41:13
  Yeah. Yeah, that that whole scene is
• 41:15
  great. And I'm going to tell you that
• 41:17
  scene in the conference room with everybody where he's like
• 41:19
  pulling off people to fire. That was another one.
• 41:23
  I was going to actually ask you about that.
• 41:25
  Yes. So I'm very glad to talk about
• 41:27
  because that we shot probably about 5 or 6 different times and
• 41:30
  it was after a couple of rehearsals and Dave and Felicia
• 41:33
  said something different every single time.
• 41:35
  Felicia actually had like a lot more lines than that.
• 41:38
  So was Dave just like riffing on that?
• 41:40
  Was that all him just kind of going off?
• 41:42
  On some of it was script and some of it was him.
• 41:44
  Just like ad lobbing, I. I like the whole thing like.
• 41:47
  Mess with the bull, get the utters.
• 41:48
  That was good. Yeah.
• 41:49
  Was that Dave? I think that was script.
• 41:51
  That was script. OK, I don't I didn't get an
• 41:53
  actual copy of the script. I just know that like there were
• 41:55
  different things said in each of the texts.
• 41:57
  He was coming up with the nicknames for people as he was
• 41:59
  going. Yeah, though I like the one with
• 42:02
  Mars. He's like yeah, cuz you're a
• 42:03
  planet or something like that. Yeah, no, it's just like stupid
• 42:07
  and fun, and that's gotta be Madman Mars for sure that he.
• 42:10
  Was referencing absolutely. I it, it was so hard keeping a
• 42:16
  straight face. I was trying really hard to be
• 42:17
  like, OK, I look like I'm worried about getting fired
• 42:20
  they're getting. Fired.
• 42:21
  You got to be. And but like, they're just
• 42:23
  cragging up. Felissa is saying stuff about
• 42:25
  like the generic toothpaste that he got for Christmas.
• 42:29
  She was like, and I know it wasn't a good toothpaste because
• 42:31
  sometimes when he yells at me, he spits when he's talking and a
• 42:34
  little guy in my mouth and like. No, wait, that wasn't in the
• 42:38
  movie, was it? That was a good line.
• 42:40
  Yeah, it was just, it was so hard keeping my shit together
• 42:44
  because they are so funny. Yeah.
• 42:46
  And that room was about 90°. They had a smoke machine going
• 42:50
  and they to like kind of like. A fog machine, Yeah.
• 42:53
  Yeah, it. And I can't imagine how much
• 42:57
  worse it would have been if it hadn't been like February when
• 42:59
  we shot that. There's like 90 people in there
• 43:02
  one time, right? It looks like a shit ton of
• 43:03
  extras. It was really crowded in that
• 43:05
  room. But yeah, we this is a few hours
• 43:08
  of shooting that a big, the part of it was getting like the
• 43:12
  lighting and the shots and everything and stuff.
• 43:16
  Yeah, yeah. But it it was, it was really
• 43:20
  funny. It was a really good time.
• 43:21
  Yeah, that was another one of my favorite, like, funny scenes
• 43:24
  right there. I like that one a lot, even as a
• 43:25
  cameo for American PJ. They're both John Gay Johns.
• 43:30
  Yep. Yeah.
• 43:32
  OK. As if you're a good son.
• 43:35
  Yeah, I, I, I mean, we're going to be really biased with this
• 43:38
  movie and there's just really no way around it, so.
• 43:40
  Yeah, yeah. But we'll try and be fair too.
• 43:44
  But like, I, yeah, I, I enjoy this movie.
• 43:47
  This movie was a lot of fun, especially when we watched it in
• 43:49
  the the premiere. I mean, mostly because there's a
• 43:53
  lot of like friends and family of like the cast and crew, which
• 43:56
  was cool. Everybody got really excited
• 43:58
  when they would see people. Yeah, exactly.
• 44:00
  Yeah, but like watching it at home, like it was cool because
• 44:04
  it's been like way like a year and a half basically since we
• 44:06
  watched it the first time. So like I had forgotten a lot of
• 44:09
  things. And man, this movie, it just
• 44:12
  like it goes like this movie has so much like the the killing, it
• 44:17
  starts like the opening is amazing because it sets the tone
• 44:21
  so well with just like you get the doctor and you get like 5 or
• 44:26
  6 kills right out the gate and they're good.
• 44:29
  Like the effects in this movie especially like they did a great
• 44:33
  job and to like learn from that conversation with them that some
• 44:38
  of that was like, I mean, it was like all practical, but like
• 44:41
  they had like a smidge of like digital VFX.
• 44:43
  In. Some spots it, it looked
• 44:46
  fantastic the entire time. And I'm, I'm with you, like
• 44:50
  there's a lot of jokes in this movie and there's, there's some
• 44:54
  of them that like really, really land for me.
• 44:55
  Like like I was talking about before, like the stuff at that.
• 44:58
  I mean the parts we already talked about.
• 45:00
  Basically. I, I also, I like the design of
• 45:03
  the doctor too. I I like these horror slasher
• 45:06
  villains that like really stand out and are unique.
• 45:09
  And that's a guy that you can like, if he's like a silhouette,
• 45:12
  you can pick him out like that big beak in the top hat is a
• 45:15
  good giveaway. I like that he's like a taller,
• 45:18
  bigger figure and he's got like a menacing stature to him.
• 45:21
  I like it at the end, too. So you all haven't seen it.
• 45:26
  Spoiler Yeah. Where he's coming in to work at
• 45:30
  the hospital on New Year's Eve, and it looks reasonable, like
• 45:33
  he's a doctor that got called away from a New Year's party.
• 45:36
  Like he's dressed up like that. So I like how that all ties in
• 45:39
  together as the character. OK, so let's talk about Beth.
• 45:43
  What's the stuff we don't like? OK.
• 45:46
  I'm not a person that needs to have a villain's background.
• 45:49
  I'm perfectly fine not having it.
• 45:50
  I also don't hate getting a background right.
• 45:53
  I'm neutral on it. I'm not begging for it, but I'm
• 45:56
  also not going to be overly mad if we try and get something.
• 45:59
  Yeah, unless it's like belabored.
• 46:01
  I do wish we knew a little bit more about the doctor's
• 46:03
  motivations. I.
• 46:04
  Was kind of wondering that too, because we started off in West
• 46:06
  Virginia and then we're all the way in Owensboro, KY, which, you
• 46:09
  know, to a lot of people probably doesn't mean much, but
• 46:11
  that's a pretty considerable drive.
• 46:13
  I'm holding space for this though, because I know that PJ
• 46:18
  has an idea of first sequel already like he's he's had the
• 46:21
  beats for it ready, so I'm assuming there's more to be told
• 46:24
  of the doctor. Yeah, I just, I wish I had a
• 46:27
  little bit more, but no, I'm impatient.
• 46:29
  Yeah, I agree. That was one thing that I was
• 46:31
  wondering too, like 'cause we get like a little bit of like
• 46:36
  he's in it with the cops too. Yes.
• 46:37
  And like they got. The cops involved and that makes
• 46:40
  sense why Leslie gets involved because that's basically his
• 46:43
  leverage over the cop. Yeah.
• 46:45
  But it's just, it would have been nice to like have some more
• 46:48
  like connecting threads between these like different plots that
• 46:51
  are going on, like with the Cop and then with the people at the
• 46:55
  the building, you know, like it. I, I want, I want a little bit
• 46:59
  more, but again, that's me holding space for knowing that
• 47:03
  there's there are sequel ideas. Yeah, yeah.
• 47:07
  I mean, like, really, that would probably be my only real issue
• 47:11
  too. Like the only other things that
• 47:13
  you can really say about this is it's not even a knock on the
• 47:16
  movie itself. It's just like kind of like the
• 47:18
  nature of like this type of like production.
• 47:19
  It was a very like a local production, stuff like that in
• 47:22
  Kentucky. So they kind of like had to use
• 47:25
  what they had at hand there with the amount of people that they
• 47:29
  had in this movie, Like you're not always going to have like
• 47:31
  the the biggest talent pool of people.
• 47:34
  So maybe some weaker performances here and there from
• 47:37
  some people. But like, you know, it's a low
• 47:39
  budget indie movie. Like I'm not going to knock it
• 47:42
  too much for that. I think it kind of actually fits
• 47:44
  really with what they're doing here because it I mean, even in
• 47:47
  the movie itself, like the dialogue is like saying this is
• 47:50
  basically like a 90s straight the video splasher.
• 47:52
  Very much the dialogue itself, especially going through this
• 47:56
  rewatch of Buffy with you, it it feels very like that, where it's
• 48:00
  like zinger, zinger, zinger. Yeah.
• 48:03
  And I'm good with that. I'm good with that too.
• 48:05
  Yeah, no, I'm OK with that too. Has to be delivered just right
• 48:08
  and I think our three leads do a very good job with their
• 48:10
  delivery. Yeah, and I remember I I've seen
• 48:13
  him talk about the dude that played Moses, that he was like
• 48:16
  barely an actor, like he barely had any experience, but like
• 48:19
  they chose him to be like one of the leads of the movie.
• 48:22
  I thought he did a great. Job.
• 48:23
  He had really good comedic instincts.
• 48:24
  He did, yeah. I thought he he did a really
• 48:26
  good job. But yeah, like, I mean, it's not
• 48:30
  like a knock on the movie like at all.
• 48:31
  It's just kind of like the nature of making like, I mean,
• 48:33
  if I were to make a movie here in town and I got all the most
• 48:37
  talented actors in here, like there would probably be some
• 48:39
  people that would be like, could be better, you know?
• 48:42
  But hey, you, you use what you get or what you can't get, I
• 48:45
  guess. OK, Ugly.
• 48:49
  I'm going to say the the doctor reneging, reneging, reneging.
• 48:53
  OK, yeah, whatever on his deal because he killed Mike's sister
• 48:58
  and the younger daughter. Yeah, like the doctor was
• 49:02
  supposed to leave him alone if he was cooperative.
• 49:05
  And then he's a bastard man. He is a bastard man.
• 49:08
  He's a true. Has dirty dealings.
• 49:10
  Yeah, dirty deeds. Dirty deeds, They're cheap.
• 49:14
  Yeah. My ugliest moment is the moment
• 49:18
  where the dude vomits on Moses wrist and he sniffs it and he's
• 49:23
  like that's Nacho cheese. That's fucking disgusting dude.
• 49:27
  I don't it looked like you just had him spit up soup beans.
• 49:30
  Oh, I think that's what happened.
• 49:31
  That is nasty as shit. How the fuck do people keep
• 49:34
  their composure during that? That is so fucking disgusting.
• 49:37
  It is. It is hard to watch.
• 49:41
  Yeah, it was. It was incredibly hard to watch.
• 49:43
  I can't imagine having to be the person that gets spit up on
• 49:46
  like, soup beans. Just disgusting.
• 49:49
  OK, absurd stuff then. What is up with the fucking lady
• 49:54
  cop? Lady cop?
• 49:56
  Yeah, I didn't catch her name, so I didn't see.
• 49:58
  That. The officer Flanagan's partner.
• 50:02
  Why the fuck is she drinking almond milk out of the flask?
• 50:07
  What is that what she was doing? Was it all that milk?
• 50:09
  Yes. Oh, a flask?
• 50:10
  Yes, put it in your thermosuit. Yeah, it like.
• 50:14
  You don't even need to keep it like temporally I guess if you
• 50:16
  want to keep it cool. I don't.
• 50:18
  Know it just Tumblr. That is weird.
• 50:20
  What a weird choice to make as a human being.
• 50:24
  That is weird. That's your absurd time.
• 50:27
  I'm going to say the captions. Oh my God dude I so we watched
• 50:33
  it on prime like we said so I don't know if this is different
• 50:36
  on. Screen box AI generated.
• 50:38
  It had to be, yeah. This was like it was not done by
• 50:41
  a human, but the the captions were all over the place and it's
• 50:46
  just like it was, it was making upwards.
• 50:49
  Yeah, I don't even know. Well, no.
• 50:51
  Prime, weirdly puritanical, did not want the word utters to be
• 50:56
  written on. This.
• 50:56
  Yeah, you said it's just like. The letter T like it just kept
• 50:59
  saying like mess of the bull, get the T.
• 51:01
  Get the T, get the T Yeah, I don't.
• 51:04
  I don't. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
• 51:06
  to me. But yeah, it it was all over the
• 51:08
  place. It makes it like if you want to
• 51:11
  go crazy with your viewing, then you can go with that and you'll
• 51:15
  go off the rails pretty hard pretty fast.
• 51:17
  We're we're caption people just cuz it helps with like audio
• 51:20
  processing. Fortunately, like it's not a
• 51:23
  deal breaker for us if there was somebody that legitimately
• 51:27
  depended on captions. They're going to be at a WASP.
• 51:30
  Yeah, it's going to be very confusing.
• 51:32
  Yeah, unfortunately. OK.
• 51:34
  Well then let's give it our rating.
• 51:36
  What do you rate this? I'm gonna give it again.
• 51:39
  I'm biased. I'm gonna give it 9 1/2. 9 1/2
• 51:41
  OK, give us 7 1/2. Starting average 8.5.
• 51:46
  Hey, we're still above IMDb. Still above IMDb like always.
• 51:49
  Right on. OK, let's talk about it.
• 51:53
  We start off with West Virginia and just all of West Virginia.
• 51:58
  That's just the. Entire stadium right here.
• 52:00
  We're in West Virginia. We see some hedge Clippers being
• 52:02
  picked up and shoved in a man's face.
• 52:04
  And we hear about news reports of these, this killing spree,
• 52:08
  these serial killings that are happening.
• 52:10
  Yeah. We see another man's head get
• 52:12
  slammed with pants. Somebody's eyes get pulled out
• 52:16
  in the park. Think a guy's face gets ripped
• 52:18
  off too? And then a throat ripped off.
• 52:20
  So right away we have like a ton of killings that lead us to
• 52:24
  Kentucky. Yep, we see Moses asleep in his
• 52:28
  car. He's there early, but it doesn't
• 52:30
  matter because he fell asleep. So he's still late to walk in
• 52:33
  and the security officer has to remind him that he forgot his
• 52:36
  pants. So we're at Hooper Industries
• 52:39
  and we have Dave Sheridan, who's the boss of this company.
• 52:43
  Yes, we we before we get to Dave's office or Mr. Dugan's
• 52:48
  office, we see Leslie talking to Brian about his divorce and his
• 52:55
  new girlfriend Amy. Then Moses shows up and they're
• 53:01
  like joining in on the conversation and Mr. Dugan rocks
• 53:04
  on up, says that Brian and Moses need to join him in his office
• 53:08
  to discuss end of your corporate layoffs, basically.
• 53:13
  And while he's in there, his wife, Ruth Ruth calls and
• 53:16
  they're all hearing she's talking about her vaginal cream.
• 53:20
  She's accusing Mr. Dugan of moving the cream and he's
• 53:24
  denying it. And poster Rose is just there in
• 53:27
  the background. Stephanie, I think is her name,
• 53:28
  yes. Yeah, it's never a good time for
• 53:30
  vaginitis, and I think that's wisdom that we should all take
• 53:33
  with us. Yeah, this is probably one of
• 53:35
  the weirdest fucking meetings that I could ever say I've
• 53:39
  witnessed in a film because like, it goes from that to like,
• 53:44
  Moses, who is talking about. He's pointing out how little
• 53:47
  shame he has. Yeah, he's, he's talking about
• 53:50
  how I, he's like, it's fine. Like I struggle myself, like I
• 53:53
  can barely come and. He's got low testosterone.
• 53:55
  Yeah, and they're like, what are you talking about?
• 53:56
  He's like here, let me let me just.
• 53:59
  So he just picks up the lotion bottle and just like starts
• 54:01
  squirting it and he just puts it up like it's his Dick and he
• 54:04
  just they're squirting it from there and it's just like.
• 54:05
  It's a haunting visual. It's it's so funny though, I I
• 54:10
  like this part a lot and I like to wear and then.
• 54:13
  This is where Mr. Dugan's like I need you guys to be the
• 54:16
  witnesses, to be separated. I like how he's like, you're
• 54:19
  gonna have to clean it up. And then what's was like, No,
• 54:22
  no, I'll clean that. Up, I see Leslie talking to
• 54:26
  Samantha. Yeah, Samantha has an owl
• 54:29
  sanctuary that she posted about online, and she's also on Only
• 54:31
  Fans, so she's got three jobs. Samantha's busy.
• 54:35
  She says she'd rather get stabbed with a giant pair of
• 54:38
  scissors than have to go to Mr. Dugan's meeting.
• 54:40
  So her and Leslie decide they're gonna act like they didn't see
• 54:43
  the e-mail. We do discuss a little bit about
• 54:46
  Leslie's issue that she's come to refer advice for, saying that
• 54:49
  she learned some information about somebody and it's making
• 54:53
  her look at him differently. And Samantha thinks it's Brian.
• 54:58
  Yeah, everybody thinks, yeah, they've been friends for a
• 55:00
  really long time and people are picking up some stuff.
• 55:03
  And it doesn't help that Leslie keeps referring to Brian's
• 55:05
  girlfriend Amy as what's her face?
• 55:07
  Yeah, yeah. It feels very backhanded.
• 55:09
  Yeah. So we now call.
• 55:13
  So Dylan calls a meeting for everybody, and she pretends like
• 55:16
  she didn't get the e-mail because she was in somebody
• 55:18
  else's office. So she's going to go do like
• 55:20
  Wesley's going to go do her own thing.
• 55:23
  Meanwhile, we see a mom at her house who is forcing her
• 55:28
  daughter into the car because she's worried about something.
• 55:30
  Yeah, she was like, you need to get in the car, we need to
• 55:32
  leave. I'll explain once we're with
• 55:34
  your older sister. And Kate says that they should
• 55:38
  just call Uncle Mike and her own's like there's no time.
• 55:43
  And then she realizes that she left herself in the garage, so
• 55:45
  she's going to run in and get it.
• 55:46
  Kate's getting a call from Leslie, but she is concerned
• 55:51
  about how long her mom is taking in the garage.
• 55:52
  So she goes to check on her, finds her mom suspended on like
• 55:56
  some workout equipment and she's dead.
• 55:58
  And then the doctor's right behind her and kills her too.
• 56:01
  Saws her head. Yeah.
• 56:02
  And that's a really brutal kill. I like this one a lot.
• 56:05
  Yeah, and Leslie none the wiser. It was a voicemail saying, hey,
• 56:10
  I know we talked about doing something tonight, but I can't.
• 56:12
  I've got class and I said I was going to meet Brian and Moses
• 56:14
  out. And then tomorrow I'm stuck
• 56:16
  going to this New Year's Eve party.
• 56:17
  So maybe, maybe later in the week.
• 56:19
  Yeah. Which is going to be a real
• 56:22
  bummer for her to find out everything that happened.
• 56:25
  Yeah, after getting out of the hospital.
• 56:26
  Yeah, wait. What the fuck are you talking
• 56:27
  about? Yeah.
• 56:29
  OK, so we now are at the meeting room, the scene that you were
• 56:35
  in. Yes, everybody's being told that
• 56:38
  they have to trim some of the fat around here, that they got
• 56:41
  to get rid of some people, and he's just naming people off on
• 56:44
  the list, calling out people that argue with him.
• 56:47
  Like what's your name? He calls on one guy's name.
• 56:49
  He's like shouldn't have said your name.
• 56:51
  Yeah, you should have known better.
• 56:55
  So yeah, that that scene and we already talked about it quite a
• 56:58
  bit, but it was it was a lot of fun.
• 57:00
  It's cool. I mean, this is also where we
• 57:01
  get Jeffrey Reddick's character, too, which is cool.
• 57:05
  Yeah. So everybody's fired, or a lot
• 57:07
  of people are. Fired.
• 57:07
  Yeah. So a list of people were pulled
• 57:10
  to a separate conference room, and then that's where they get
• 57:12
  in there and they find out that they're definitely fired.
• 57:16
  So were you fired? So you still have a job?
• 57:20
  Yeah, I don't have a boss, you know, but hey, head of HR is
• 57:25
  gone. Maybe I can.
• 57:26
  Maybe. Maybe you got your.
• 57:27
  Yeah, There you go. Right.
• 57:29
  There. But Speaking of head of HR,
• 57:32
  Norman basically threatens Mr. Dugan, which is a bold move on
• 57:36
  your way out, especially if you're wanting to collect
• 57:39
  unemployment. Jeffrey Reddick really does
• 57:42
  deliver this with all kinds of hate.
• 57:44
  He. Does.
• 57:45
  You can just like see it. I'm pretty sure they filmed this
• 57:48
  the same day, so it had been a long day for.
• 57:51
  So he was really channeling that right there though.
• 57:53
  Yeah, because a lot of those people that were there, like
• 57:55
  they just shot their scenes all on that same day.
• 57:58
  I. Remember they had the film a lot
• 57:59
  of this really fast because they only had listened day for like
• 58:02
  that weekend, didn't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:05
  So it was it was a lot of back-to-back to back.
• 58:07
  So some of that is acting, some of that probably is like, Oh my
• 58:11
  God, it's I hope you. Die.
• 58:14
  Yeah. So yeah, they're all fired.
• 58:16
  Yeah, Leslie is at a diner or cafe.
• 58:20
  It's a cafe. It doesn't look like it's a very
• 58:23
  fancy diner, if that's a diner. Like it's kind of like diner
• 58:26
  booths because cafes normally have like booths tables, not
• 58:29
  booths. No, that's true.
• 58:30
  That's true. I don't know.
• 58:31
  It doesn't matter because we've got to have a Halloween homage.
• 58:34
  Yes. We got to see the doctor
• 58:36
  standing outside and then she's got to go outside and then he
• 58:38
  does the thing by the hedges. Yeah, where he just disappears.
• 58:43
  I like it. Yeah.
• 58:45
  So we she goes out on the streets and she's walking home.
• 58:50
  I think she's walking somewhere. She's walking.
• 58:52
  It's Owensboro. Yeah, and.
• 58:53
  There's only a few ways you can go.
• 58:55
  That's true, Yeah. And she again sees the doctor
• 58:58
  just kind of doing the same thing.
• 58:59
  It's very Michael Myers. Right here, for sure.
• 59:01
  Absolutely. So we now see Mr. Flanagan the
• 59:04
  cop. He is sitting in his cop car.
• 59:07
  Mr. Flanagan is Mike. Officer Flanagan or Mike?
• 59:10
  They never say both of his names in the same like his first and
• 59:13
  last name in. Mike Flanagan, the horror
• 59:17
  director and writer in the car himself recording a video with
• 59:22
  that I thought for a second was a suicide video, but it.
• 59:25
  Kind of it comes across that way.
• 59:26
  Not to be too morbid, but basically he's like, I've done
• 59:29
  things I'm not proud of. I've written you all each a
• 59:31
  letter explaining my actions. I'm so sorry.
• 59:34
  Unfortunately, most of those people are alive to receive the
• 59:37
  letters. Kinda sucks, maybe he already
• 59:40
  killed them. Yeah.
• 59:42
  Nah. He gets a call and it's from his
• 59:46
  partner. She's going to join him at the
• 59:48
  warehouse where he's at. And we see him put on red
• 59:49
  gloves, which is important to note because the doctor was
• 59:53
  wearing red gloves when he was talking Leslie.
• 59:56
  And then we see in his like little visor the thing you don't
• 1:00:00
  have on your driver's side. Anymore.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah, the thing that boxes. On Yeah, there's a picture of
• 1:00:05
  Kate and Leslie, so this must be the Uncle Mike that Kate was
• 1:00:08
  referring to and why everybody kept saying that they should
• 1:00:12
  call him. So backup arrives and apparently
• 1:00:17
  his thing was he was going to check out this warehouse.
• 1:00:20
  He's supposed to, we found out later, he was supposed to plant
• 1:00:22
  some evidence. He did not know there's was
• 1:00:24
  going to be a setup for multiple murders.
• 1:00:27
  And you know, things kind of went off the rail.
• 1:00:30
  She was pulled in. He was not ready for her to be
• 1:00:33
  pulled into all of this. None of this went the way it was
• 1:00:35
  supposed to. And it's a really, like I said,
• 1:00:38
  this is like the first moment of real dread I felt watching this
• 1:00:42
  movie 'cause they go into this room, see somebody breathing,
• 1:00:45
  pull this cloth off at the table and they're trying to get him
• 1:00:48
  unhooked. And then the saw blades start
• 1:00:49
  going, and then we hear it on a bunch of other tables that are
• 1:00:53
  similarly covered and lumpy. Yeah.
• 1:00:55
  Yeah, I I am glad that they confirmed that this was saw
• 1:00:59
  inspired because it just, it looks like a SAW trap.
• 1:01:02
  It also has a cop being dirty. Yeah, very saw.
• 1:01:06
  Very saw Jigsaw's never targeted cops.
• 1:01:09
  What are you talking about? Well.
• 1:01:10
  Jigsaw's never killed either, So what are we talking?
• 1:01:14
  About we see Mr. Dugan still in the office and he runs into the
• 1:01:19
  doctor in the hall and he mouths off for a minute and then
• 1:01:23
  realizes, oh shit, she's about to go down.
• 1:01:25
  He goes, I was a track star and he throws his briefcase at him
• 1:01:29
  and then trips and docks himself out and it's great.
• 1:01:32
  He wakes up tattooed chair and he sees the doctor down the
• 1:01:36
  hallway and the doctor has a crossbow with a little scalpel
• 1:01:40
  used as the arrow. What brand crossbow?
• 1:01:43
  You won't ever tell, Yeah. So he shoots him once, hits him
• 1:01:48
  in the shoulder and then he fires 2 more times and gets him
• 1:01:50
  in the head. Yes, we see Officer Mike being
• 1:01:55
  really hostile to some federal agents that showed up.
• 1:01:58
  Like needlessly hostile. Like painting yourself as an
• 1:02:03
  accomplice. It's the whole trope of like the
• 1:02:05
  cop being super territorial like this is my case, back off.
• 1:02:10
  I will say though, like the I don't know about local police in
• 1:02:13
  Owensboro, I do know that the state sheriffs in Kentucky are
• 1:02:18
  kind of uptight assholes. How do you know?
• 1:02:21
  Is it because of work? No, no.
• 1:02:24
  I've. You have you had run insurance
• 1:02:27
  with the wall? I'll tell you this, just cut it
• 1:02:29
  off and the sheriff goes, ma'am, I'm the state police.
• 1:02:33
  I like I can't just let this go. I'm gonna I'm gonna cut
• 1:02:38
  everything except for the ma'am. I'm a state.
• 1:02:40
  Police. Nobody except for one person
• 1:02:46
  listening knows what that whole story is.
• 1:02:49
  OK, well that explains. Everything.
• 1:02:51
  That's how I know, yeah. And then they're also
• 1:02:55
  questioning how there are that many people that were in the
• 1:02:58
  warehouse and there are no missing persons reports.
• 1:03:01
  Yeah, they also mentioned that like there were bodies that were
• 1:03:04
  six months decayed. Yeah, which it's been there for
• 1:03:07
  a while now. They're calling it a House of
• 1:03:09
  horrors, and I wish they had called it a warehouse of
• 1:03:12
  horrors. And then I thought about it and
• 1:03:13
  I said I wish they would have called it a warehouse of 1000
• 1:03:15
  corpses. So many opportunities, so many
• 1:03:20
  opportunities. PJ, you fucked.
• 1:03:21
  PJ, I know you don't need help zinging up a script, but you
• 1:03:24
  know, if you ever want somebody to pass through and give you
• 1:03:27
  one, one more zinger, one more pun, I'll do it right here.
• 1:03:33
  So we see Jeffrey Reddick now, and he stumbles upon Mr. Dugan's
• 1:03:38
  dead body. He's like, Oh my God, something
• 1:03:40
  awesome. I mean something awful.
• 1:03:41
  Yeah, he yeah, he's trying to tell them about 911, but before
• 1:03:44
  he can say anything, his head full owl, you know?
• 1:03:48
  Man should have had a log truck kill him dude.
• 1:03:52
  I mean, he's like, come on. That would have been, you know,
• 1:03:55
  all of the homages we have in this movie.
• 1:03:58
  We've been nodded. No, boy.
• 1:04:00
  Most well known franchise. We get a Christine reference in
• 1:04:03
  this. We could have Christine this
• 1:04:04
  year. We could have just had a log
• 1:04:05
  truck drive through the building and have it be done.
• 1:04:08
  OK, Eric, again, you fucked up. Oh, Eric is playing for that
• 1:04:13
  one, not PJ. OK.
• 1:04:14
  Their team. Yeah, OK, so we're at a bar now.
• 1:04:18
  It's Brian, Moses and Leslie. Well, just Brian and Leslie
• 1:04:22
  first. Moses shows up here in a second.
• 1:04:24
  Yeah, Leslie is laughing at Moses jokes, and Brian kind of
• 1:04:30
  calls her out on it. And then they kind of swap out
• 1:04:32
  going to the bathroom. So then it shows Moses and Brian
• 1:04:35
  at the table, and Moses is telling Brian like, hey, you're
• 1:04:38
  really missing out on Leslie. And he's like, no, we've been
• 1:04:42
  friends since high school. I don't want to ruin the
• 1:04:43
  friendship. I understand that like she like
• 1:04:46
  his girlfriend keeps missing shit because she's working, but
• 1:04:49
  like he seems to be understood. Everybody's like, dude, you got
• 1:04:53
  a problem with this nurse? And he's like, no, it sucks, but
• 1:04:56
  I kind of get it. Like, no, bro, trust me, you
• 1:04:59
  need to get out of that. They're basically being like
• 1:05:02
  Redditors to him. You got a divorcer.
• 1:05:05
  Weren't you married? Yeah, yeah, no the whole like
• 1:05:10
  you should break up with her cuz she's unavailable that I don't
• 1:05:12
  agree with. But we have made fun of friends,
• 1:05:15
  significant others that are always conveniently busy.
• 1:05:19
  That's true. It's.
• 1:05:21
  An imaginary person, Yeah. But you know, this is just it.
• 1:05:25
  She's a nurse. It's a hard.
• 1:05:26
  It's a hard gig. Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  Essential wise. Is she the same one at the end
• 1:05:30
  of the movie? That's what I thought, yeah.
• 1:05:31
  OK. OK, where am I at on here?
• 1:05:35
  Oh the we see the feds are staking out the warehouse and
• 1:05:38
  they talk about foreshadowing. Yeah, foreshadowing.
• 1:05:42
  You know, the thing that you do where you discuss something
• 1:05:44
  that's gonna happen. If you don't know what
• 1:05:47
  foreshadowing is, go listen to the Jacko commentary or our
• 1:05:50
  episode covering Jacko because the director went into detail
• 1:05:54
  there. Watch the watch like the
• 1:05:56
  highlighted Jacko commentary clips on YouTube.
• 1:05:59
  You can just leave it at that and you're welcome.
• 1:06:02
  You don't even need to watch the rest of the movie.
• 1:06:03
  You can listen to our episode on it though.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah, because we talk about it all there plenty.
• 1:06:07
  So it's now. Saturday the 31st.
• 1:06:10
  Yeah, we have Stephanie Foots, Rosa's character.
• 1:06:13
  She's at the office one day off, just cleaning up.
• 1:06:17
  And she's arguing with somebody on the phone that that's not her
• 1:06:19
  job. And she goes, no, it is, it is
• 1:06:21
  my job. She hears a sound in the
• 1:06:23
  bathroom and she goes in there and I don't know why.
• 1:06:25
  Like, I get more excited about this.
• 1:06:26
  I'm going to actually see myself on screen.
• 1:06:27
  I'm always like, I peed in that bathroom.
• 1:06:29
  You said it as soon as we saw it, like I've been in that
• 1:06:31
  bathroom, did some shit in there.
• 1:06:33
  I didn't do some shit, I did some pee.
• 1:06:35
  I did some pee in there and. You can't say the phrase I did
• 1:06:45
  some. Shit, yeah, you're talking.
• 1:06:46
  About a bathroom. Well, at least you didn't do
• 1:06:48
  this. Interpretation for that.
• 1:06:49
  You're right. OK, You didn't also get your
• 1:06:52
  guts all over the place in there either, because.
• 1:06:54
  This is a little bit funny though, because Felissa is very
• 1:06:58
  New Jersey and very tan and the prop that they were using for
• 1:07:03
  the needle injection and then the scalpel slice.
• 1:07:06
  It was somebody that was very pale.
• 1:07:07
  It ate it. Spray.
• 1:07:08
  Tank, I had a Kentucky body. Yeah, that was not a New Jersey
• 1:07:11
  body, unfortunately, but it's still a really cool scene none
• 1:07:14
  the less. So the doctor takes his scalpel
• 1:07:17
  and he cuts open a little incision on her tummy.
• 1:07:20
  He was kind enough to give her a local anaesthetic, did he?
• 1:07:25
  Yeah. Because she's.
• 1:07:25
  I can't feel that. I can't feel it.
• 1:07:27
  I thought she was just saying that because, like, she was
• 1:07:30
  like, you know, that like scene in the rest.
• 1:07:32
  I was like, you know what they say when you don't feel it, It's
• 1:07:34
  not too good. I don't feel it, Yeah.
• 1:07:37
  Yeah, well, instead she has pig intestines pulled out of her.
• 1:07:42
  Yeah, and flushed down the toilet.
• 1:07:43
  Flushed down the toilet. Yeah, it's pretty, pretty
• 1:07:45
  gnarly. Honestly, with how much toilet
• 1:07:47
  paper he wads up on the end of the intestine before throwing it
• 1:07:50
  in the toilet, I'm surprised it didn't just immediately clog.
• 1:07:54
  Can you imagine a different edit of this where the toilet is
• 1:07:56
  clogged so it doesn't fill out her intestines?
• 1:07:58
  I mean, realistically speaking, it would have like whoever is
• 1:08:01
  coming there to clean up that mess is, I'm sorry, that's gonna
• 1:08:04
  be a really nasty one cuz you're gonna have to get into the
• 1:08:07
  plumbing to get all of that out. Yeah, it's just disgusting.
• 1:08:11
  OK, so now it's night, night time, it's office party time.
• 1:08:16
  We got Brian who is just a showing up at the the place.
• 1:08:20
  I love how only our main trio gets to be in their casual
• 1:08:24
  clothes and everybody else is still.
• 1:08:25
  Wearing their industries. Polo.
• 1:08:27
  People are dedicated, yeah. People are saying.
• 1:08:30
  We see now Moses and Leslie and I think Brian's here they're.
• 1:08:34
  We see Leslie, Samantha and Lance are arguing about New
• 1:08:37
  Year's Eve horror. Movies, that's it.
• 1:08:38
  Yeah. Yeah, they're.
• 1:08:39
  Having a big debate about how there's never been a good New
• 1:08:41
  Year's Eve horror movie. We didn't get a chance because
• 1:08:44
  we're using free software, but I really need PJ and Eric to be
• 1:08:48
  aware of a little darling film we watch every year called New
• 1:08:52
  Year, New You. It's a Hulu one.
• 1:08:54
  It's a Hulu one. We talked about it too.
• 1:08:56
  There's. But I do agree that New Year's
• 1:08:58
  Eve is definitely a holiday that needs a little bit more love
• 1:09:00
  from the genre. Yeah, especially like you have
• 1:09:02
  banger after banger of Christmas horror movie.
• 1:09:05
  It's so good. We need something that week
• 1:09:07
  between Christmas and New Year's.
• 1:09:08
  I We need to see New Fear, New Year's Eve evil and terror.
• 1:09:13
  Train's OK. It's OK.
• 1:09:16
  It's got David Copperfield. It's OK.
• 1:09:20
  Mike and his partner are watching the Uber party.
• 1:09:25
  They're just trying to keep an eye on things.
• 1:09:27
  He's especially worried about Leslie and the partners, like
• 1:09:31
  kind of asking and he's just not willing to say a.
• 1:09:34
  Whole lot Is this where she pulls out the flask of?
• 1:09:37
  Indeed, yes. Yeah, OK.
• 1:09:40
  Leslie runs into her ex at the party, I guess he works there
• 1:09:46
  and she calls him out for cheating on her and he tries to
• 1:09:50
  say that. Nothing happened.
• 1:09:52
  Nothing. Happened, but she's like, I'm
• 1:09:54
  not, we're not doing this. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:58
  If you're in a sexual situation with somebody and you don't just
• 1:10:01
  say no one get out of there. It's kind of it's not a good.
• 1:10:05
  Look for you man who gets caught on their own Ring doorbell
• 1:10:08
  camera. Yeah, it's just yeah, Come on,
• 1:10:10
  bud. Mike and his partner, the cops,
• 1:10:15
  they find the doctor and they get out after him, follow him,
• 1:10:19
  and they've got him cornered and the feds are watching them.
• 1:10:23
  So we got like this whole like watching, going down.
• 1:10:27
  And yeah, exactly. Mike was suppose he calls out
• 1:10:32
  the doctor. He's like, I was only supposed
• 1:10:34
  to plant the evidence in exchange for you leaving my
• 1:10:36
  family alone. I didn't know that you were
• 1:10:39
  going to be killing. You know, we're hearing all of
• 1:10:41
  this go on. And then we hear some shots.
• 1:10:44
  Just a bang for yeah and then the FBI people.
• 1:10:46
  The feds come running just in time to hear his partner tell
• 1:10:49
  the doctor. I didn't know that you were
• 1:10:52
  working with Mike also. Yeah, she shot him in the head.
• 1:10:57
  And yeah, they got some double crossing going on.
• 1:10:59
  Here And then the doctor kills her and the feds shoot him.
• 1:11:05
  One of the feds shoots him and he's wearing a vest so it
• 1:11:09
  doesn't really do much, so then he's able to kill them both.
• 1:11:12
  They they have an argument like you shouldn't have killed him.
• 1:11:14
  Like, I mean, at that point where like he killed the
• 1:11:16
  officer, I think you're justified to start shooting the
• 1:11:19
  person. Yeah, he's, he's using deadly
• 1:11:21
  force. Yeah, man, while they're arguing
• 1:11:23
  that he kind of does a Michael Myers here and just, like, stabs
• 1:11:26
  both of them real quick. Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty cool.
• 1:11:30
  So let's see. Yeah, he goes outside the
• 1:11:32
  building and he's walking towards the front of the
• 1:11:35
  building. Some guy comes out.
• 1:11:36
  He just wants to smoke. All he wants is to smoke.
• 1:11:39
  He compliments the guy's outfit. I like to say the doctor's in
• 1:11:42
  and then he gets killed. Yeah, that's cool.
• 1:11:44
  He was complimenting you, man. Yeah, you could have, just like
• 1:11:47
  you could have been the cool bad guy and like just let the one
• 1:11:49
  cool guy. He let, No, he does let one guy.
• 1:11:52
  It's the guy that's all coked up and spitting up soup beans.
• 1:11:55
  Yeah, he lets him survive. Soup beans to be speed up on
• 1:11:58
  him. It's like, oh God, if I go in
• 1:12:00
  and try said like, I'm going to get soup beans.
• 1:12:01
  Yeah, that's fucking gross. Nobody wants that.
• 1:12:03
  That's that's your lesson right there to survive a horror movie,
• 1:12:06
  have soup beans in your mouth ready to be speed up at all
• 1:12:09
  times look. So Leslie, Brian and Moses, they
• 1:12:13
  have a little meeting, a come together moment because Leslie
• 1:12:16
  wants to tell them all about seeing the doctor last night.
• 1:12:18
  She was like, hey, I was stopped.
• 1:12:20
  I'm feeling kind of weird. And they're like, actually,
• 1:12:23
  we've both had run insurance as well.
• 1:12:26
  So Moses talks about on the 29th, he was drunk at the bar
• 1:12:30
  and basically gets cut off and he's trying to hit on the
• 1:12:33
  bartender and offering to take her in his red Miata.
• 1:12:37
  And then Mike, he's at the bar. This is why the doctor was
• 1:12:41
  there. He tells him, like, son, I know
• 1:12:46
  you're not about to drink and drive.
• 1:12:47
  And then Moses storms off. Anyway, he he made a really
• 1:12:53
  funny joke because he tripped over a chair and he made a joke
• 1:12:55
  about a bench. Bench please.
• 1:12:56
  Bench, please. That's what it was.
• 1:12:57
  Yeah, that was really funny. So he's going out to his car.
• 1:13:00
  The doctor's there, just kind of standing near his car.
• 1:13:03
  And the closer he gets, the doctor more seems like he's
• 1:13:06
  going to get him. And he runs after him.
• 1:13:08
  Moses runs. He hides behind another vehicle.
• 1:13:10
  And that's when Mike pops up and he's like, listen, I'm just, I'm
• 1:13:12
  just going to give you a ride home, but you have to sit in the
• 1:13:15
  back. Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  And then smart, he probably saved his life by saying, Nah,
• 1:13:19
  I'm gonna walk home. Yeah.
• 1:13:20
  So he he walks home and said. On the 30th, the next night,
• 1:13:24
  Brian was at a restaurant being set up by his girlfriend.
• 1:13:26
  The worst girlfriend ever, apparently.
• 1:13:28
  Yep. And she, she just, she had to
• 1:13:33
  cover because there was somebody out for a funeral.
• 1:13:35
  Somebody was out sick. She was like, people are still
• 1:13:38
  at the hospital. People are saying.
• 1:13:39
  People are saying, like, I got an important job.
• 1:13:41
  Yeah, I need to be here. Yeah.
• 1:13:43
  So he's like, that's all good. I support you.
• 1:13:45
  I'm not. I'm not delusional about you
• 1:13:48
  being able to spend every single waking second with me.
• 1:13:51
  I support your career. And he heads back out to his
• 1:13:56
  car, and, of course, he sees the doctor on the sidewalk.
• 1:13:58
  Yeah. And he runs to his car.
• 1:14:00
  And there's a lot of secluded alleys in Ellisboro, apparently.
• 1:14:04
  Yeah, there is, yeah. I this is like right downtown,
• 1:14:07
  which is kind of cool. Like especially I'm sure if
• 1:14:09
  you're from the area. Yeah.
• 1:14:11
  Being able to see this right here, they have that moment
• 1:14:13
  where like he runs across the street and a car like stops.
• 1:14:16
  I wonder if that was like done intentionally or if that was
• 1:14:19
  like somebody actually driving because I can't imagine they
• 1:14:21
  actually shut down the roads for this.
• 1:14:22
  Yeah, I have to imagine. Yeah.
• 1:14:26
  Either way, that's cool. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:28
  So yeah, this is, this is another really great moment cuz
• 1:14:31
  he gets into his car and he's about to back up and then he's
• 1:14:34
  got one of those rear cameras. Yeah.
• 1:14:36
  And the doctor just doesn't does.
• 1:14:37
  A finger wag. I guess he a very purge purge.
• 1:14:42
  Yeah, yeah, I could feel that. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:45
  And he drives off, he gets away. So we see the doctor back at the
• 1:14:49
  party back in present time. He kills a group in the break
• 1:14:53
  room with exes. And then he a reference that we
• 1:14:59
  now get. We hadn't seen Die Hard when we
• 1:15:01
  first saw this movie. Yeah, but we have since.
• 1:15:04
  And so the whole like, I need another patient.
• 1:15:06
  Ho, ho, ho. Yeah.
• 1:15:08
  As this Die Hard reference. Yay.
• 1:15:12
  We a lot more people get killed. Yeah, there's so many guys.
• 1:15:15
  In the scene, so many things are happening, not all at once.
• 1:15:18
  I couldn't write down every single death no as it was
• 1:15:20
  happening, so I just wrote more were killed.
• 1:15:22
  And then this is also where we get the triple neck scalpel.
• 1:15:26
  Yeah, yeah, cuz the guy's like sweet costume dude or whatever
• 1:15:29
  like that. He just like, kills all three of
• 1:15:31
  them. Leslie's ex and someone named
• 1:15:34
  Nancy are making out in the break room and she's like let me
• 1:15:37
  call him my boyfriend Ned. This still went in on this, but
• 1:15:41
  they both get chloroformed. Yeah, that, that seems funny.
• 1:15:45
  He's like. Who's Ned?
• 1:15:47
  Usually I don't know, like he's my boyfriend.
• 1:15:49
  Don't worry, he gets the best blowjob.
• 1:15:50
  So like, how do you know? I mean.
• 1:15:55
  People are saying, people are saying.
• 1:15:56
  Yeah, they wake up at a table. The guy has his tongue like.
• 1:16:02
  Clamped. Yes, it's clamped and it's
• 1:16:05
  pulled out and the doctor like cuts a little bit, pours some
• 1:16:08
  iodine on it and then once he is a butcher knife for it, but he
• 1:16:13
  ends up killing Nancy with the butcher knife.
• 1:16:16
  Keeps like faking out the guy, like acting like he's going to
• 1:16:17
  get the tongue and then he's just like right into her neck.
• 1:16:20
  You know, honestly, like it would have been bad to see his
• 1:16:22
  tongue cut all the way off, but something about it only being
• 1:16:25
  partially cut is even more sadistic.
• 1:16:27
  Yeah, I mean, you could probably still say that the you're going
• 1:16:29
  to have a bad scar and. Trauma.
• 1:16:31
  Yeah. It's going to be a rough time.
• 1:16:34
  Brian is in the bathroom and Leslie and Moses are talking.
• 1:16:39
  They see the doctor in the hall, and then they see the doctor
• 1:16:41
  kill two people in the hall as Brian comes out like they're
• 1:16:46
  kind of separated, like he's on the other end of the hall.
• 1:16:49
  The two of them are this and the doctors in the middle as.
• 1:16:51
  Soon as Ace Ventura. And so he's like, you guys run,
• 1:16:54
  I'll find you. So they kind of split up that
• 1:16:57
  way. Moses and Leslie run into the
• 1:16:58
  break room where Ned, I guess this is Ned of the famous
• 1:17:02
  blowjobs. Blowjob Ned if you will.
• 1:17:05
  He is passed out. I don't think he would have
• 1:17:07
  given a good blowjob. Probably not, no.
• 1:17:11
  He spits his suit beans all over Moses.
• 1:17:15
  Yeah. They're trying to ask Ned where
• 1:17:18
  the phones are because he was supposed to be collecting them
• 1:17:20
  before the party started, but he is just too foregone.
• 1:17:24
  Samantha and Lance are attacked out in the hall, not killed,
• 1:17:28
  though they do manage to get away.
• 1:17:32
  Brian is trying to find where Leslie and Moses are, and
• 1:17:36
  somebody pops up unexpectedly. He punches.
• 1:17:39
  It's Ruth. It's Dugan.
• 1:17:40
  'S wife, it's Dugan's wife, yes. And she said that he never came
• 1:17:44
  home last night, but he's been talking about this stupid party
• 1:17:46
  for weeks. So she figured she would come
• 1:17:47
  here. The front door was locked.
• 1:17:50
  The front door is locked now. It wasn't when she came in.
• 1:17:53
  So they're like OK, well we're going to try and go for a
• 1:17:55
  different door. And as they're going around the
• 1:17:57
  corner, Ruth gets hit by a baseball bat that Lance is
• 1:18:00
  holding. I like how Ruth is just head
• 1:18:03
  trauma after head trauma in this.
• 1:18:05
  She's going through some stuff. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:07
  She doesn't have time to get too bad a headache, though, because
• 1:18:12
  the doctor appears and he ends up grabbing her and smashing her
• 1:18:16
  on the window in that shot that Eric was referencing in her
• 1:18:20
  interview. Yeah.
• 1:18:22
  So they, they're split up again, but Moses and Leslie, they have
• 1:18:28
  their moment here where like he's like, hey, I got to say
• 1:18:31
  something. And she basically guesses
• 1:18:33
  everything that he was going to say like that she he's like
• 1:18:36
  secretly in love with her and all that stuff.
• 1:18:38
  And you know, they, they just have their moment there and they
• 1:18:40
  share a little kiss. Yeah.
• 1:18:42
  And she and he was like, how did you know?
• 1:18:43
  And she goes, you left your phone at my desk.
• 1:18:45
  No. Yeah, who is texting?
• 1:18:47
  Because clearly it wasn't Brian because we saw a shot of him and
• 1:18:49
  Brian alone earlier. And it's not like he was saying,
• 1:18:52
  man, I'm so in love with Leslie. He was like, why aren't you
• 1:18:54
  going through Leslie? That's not cool for her to go
• 1:18:56
  through his phone. He.
• 1:18:58
  Left it on her desk. Does that, Is that your role?
• 1:19:01
  You leave it on a desk. It's it's mine to Snoop through.
• 1:19:04
  There's a lot more context that's important, but if it was
• 1:19:07
  like a friend's phone and I saw it like what the?
• 1:19:08
  Stuff, you know? Wow.
• 1:19:10
  OK, I leave my phone around you sometimes.
• 1:19:13
  Maybe I won't. Listen anymore, it is 2026.
• 1:19:18
  If you do not have a lock on your phone or if you have a lock
• 1:19:21
  and you have shared that that PIN with me, all bets are off.
• 1:19:25
  All right, well, hey, no secrets.
• 1:19:28
  No secrets around Jesse. OK, so they have their moment
• 1:19:33
  there. This is where the doctor kills
• 1:19:36
  Samantha. Though she did her own
• 1:19:38
  foreshadowing earlier when she said she'd rather be stabbed by
• 1:19:40
  scissors and she got stabbed by two giant pairs of scissors and
• 1:19:44
  then Lance gets killed. Owed.
• 1:19:46
  The killed owed, Yeah. Brian runs into Moses downstairs
• 1:19:51
  as Leslie is trying to call 911. There's like an emergency phone
• 1:19:54
  down there, but the exit doors are change shut.
• 1:19:57
  The doctor approaches and everybody's like trying to take
• 1:20:00
  their chances to hit him. So Brian starts off hitting him.
• 1:20:04
  He gets cut and thrown back. Moses tries and hit him.
• 1:20:08
  He's he's trying to get stuff to cut the chain and tell Leslie to
• 1:20:12
  go. He doesn't want to leave Brian
• 1:20:13
  behind. And Leslie doesn't want to leave
• 1:20:15
  either of them behind. And they're each grabbing a leg.
• 1:20:19
  Yeah. And at one point, the doctor
• 1:20:21
  just like. They're stabbing Brian.
• 1:20:23
  He's like a pincushion. And get out of here cuz he had
• 1:20:27
  some bolt cutters or whatever were like hidden behind boxes
• 1:20:30
  that were revealed. So she takes the opportunity to
• 1:20:34
  finally just cut loose and get out of there.
• 1:20:36
  And she does. She runs into a police officer,
• 1:20:40
  She's being put into an ambulance and told that all of
• 1:20:42
  the survivors are on their way to Owensboro Memorial.
• 1:20:44
  But we hear the other cops and feds talking about how basically
• 1:20:48
  there was only one other survivor and it was Ned.
• 1:20:50
  Yeah, we're also seeing that the doctor is in the car and he's
• 1:20:54
  watching. Yeah.
• 1:20:55
  And they said there was no trace of another person at that point.
• 1:20:57
  Yeah, hit the hospital. We hear the PA call for a doctor
• 1:21:01
  fears is. That the same one.
• 1:21:05
  It's the same guy. It's the same guy cuz we see a
• 1:21:08
  doctor walking into the trauma Bay wearing his fancy little
• 1:21:11
  suit, puts on his doctor jacket over it.
• 1:21:13
  And Amy, the nurse who's definitely real and at work.
• 1:21:16
  Yeah. It's like, hey, can you maybe
• 1:21:18
  just talk to her? She might not need surgery or
• 1:21:20
  anything, but we are trying to like address some of her issues.
• 1:21:23
  She's going to need a psych consultation as well.
• 1:21:26
  And she sees his shoes. Yeah, she recognizes.
• 1:21:30
  This. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:21:31
  So she runs out, climbs through a window, and then basically
• 1:21:37
  it's like, come get me, motherfucker.
• 1:21:38
  Yeah, she turns around, looks through the window.
• 1:21:40
  The doctor is there, maskless, but we don't see his face
• 1:21:44
  because it's strategically hidden.
• 1:21:47
  And yeah, they have their old stare down.
• 1:21:49
  And that's the movie. That's the movie, Yeah, I might
• 1:21:53
  keep it a nine and a half. Like I said, I'm biased,
• 1:21:55
  personally biased. It's just going to be a thing.
• 1:21:57
  OK, that's fair. I'm keeping, you know, I'll make
• 1:22:00
  it 8. Let's bump it to 8.
• 1:22:03
  Yeah, this is a good time. Like, it's a fun movie.
• 1:22:05
  It's a fun slasher, especially if you are into holiday horror
• 1:22:09
  movies. Like, this is a great one to
• 1:22:10
  have on for New Year's Eve for sure.
• 1:22:13
  Yeah, good time. What do we think?
• 1:22:16
  Italia thought, Because I can tell you she was pretty sleepy
• 1:22:18
  at the beginning. We paused halfway through to
• 1:22:20
  give them meals and then she was very worried about our kitten.
• 1:22:24
  I think Talia. Talia loves a good party night.
• 1:22:28
  She's a little sick of party nights right now, but.
• 1:22:31
  Yeah, it's been a lot of party nights in a row lately for her,
• 1:22:34
  but I do think that she would have fun with the party.
• 1:22:37
  She wouldn't like all of the shenanigans.
• 1:22:40
  She's not pro shenanigans. No, there's a lot of shenanigans
• 1:22:43
  that goes on. Here.
• 1:22:44
  Too many shenanigans for sure. And she doesn't.
• 1:22:47
  She's not big on masks either. She's not.
• 1:22:50
  Or big people. Yeah, and the Doctor is a big.
• 1:22:52
  Person There's a lot going on and she loves going to the vet.
• 1:22:57
  Yeah, it's very much a safe place for her, and this is kind
• 1:23:00
  of ruining this. That's confusing to her that the
• 1:23:02
  fact that somebody that saves lives kills us.
• 1:23:04
  Yeah, yeah. It just doesn't make any sense.
• 1:23:06
  So I think Talia overall with all those things considered, we
• 1:23:11
  give it an 8. OK, All right, so.
• 1:23:16
  Zoe's ultimate warrior. Zoe's ultimate warrior.
• 1:23:22
  I think it would be Moses because she would sniff, vomit
• 1:23:25
  and be like dog food and she would try and eat it.
• 1:23:29
  Yeah, probably. OK, I feel like Moses would have
• 1:23:32
  eaten that stuff had he like not been chased by a killer in that
• 1:23:37
  moment. Yeah, I think he would have been
• 1:23:39
  into like some. I feel like he.
• 1:23:41
  Was going to lick it at least. Yeah, he would have been like,
• 1:23:43
  this makes me want nachos. Yeah, if they weren't in a life
• 1:23:46
  or death situation. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:23:48
  OK, OK. All right, let's see tagline.
• 1:23:54
  New tagline Stick out your tongue and say die.
• 1:24:00
  Oh my God, that's good. I like that.
• 1:24:04
  That's really good. All right, cool.
• 1:24:06
  We'll pick that. I was personally working on a
• 1:24:10
  Tears For Fears. That works too.
• 1:24:15
  OK, all right, Dream sequel. So we do know that they are
• 1:24:19
  planning on doing 1. We don't have any details on it,
• 1:24:22
  which I get that from their perspective.
• 1:24:24
  Yeah, I was wondering myself, like, do they continue this as a
• 1:24:29
  New Year's movie or do they move holidays?
• 1:24:32
  Yeah, I wanted to ask, We didn't get a chance to figure out where
• 1:24:35
  it's going to pick up, if it'll be right after this or if it's
• 1:24:37
  going to be the next new year, if it's going to be a different
• 1:24:40
  holiday. Yeah, I personally would love
• 1:24:42
  the idea of it like some of the lesser celebrated holidays
• 1:24:46
  getting. Yeah.
• 1:24:47
  Like or maybe. What's the next holiday that
• 1:24:49
  comes up that's like not a huge celebrated moon, like maybe like
• 1:24:55
  Saint Patrick's Day? Dude like a fat Tuesday or
• 1:24:58
  something. Fat Tuesday.
• 1:25:00
  Oh my God. Yeah, like.
• 1:25:01
  We did a Mardi Gras. Maybe that isn't Victor Crowley
• 1:25:06
  based. You're right.
• 1:25:07
  We do. Yeah, that's actually a good
• 1:25:09
  point. Yeah.
• 1:25:12
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:25:12
  So like, what are we? What's see happen next?
• 1:25:16
  I want to see the Doctor balancing his killings and his
• 1:25:20
  work now that we know he's an actual Doctor.
• 1:25:23
  Oh yeah, yeah. Like, I want to see you like
• 1:25:25
  maybe some shit going slightly wrong at work.
• 1:25:27
  Maybe he's got like like a Munchausen type thing except
• 1:25:31
  he's a doctor. Let's to continue the SAW thing
• 1:25:34
  like have it be like Hoffman balance and being a detective
• 1:25:37
  and being a SAW killer. And he goes on another crazy
• 1:25:40
  killing spree just like off in bed because like as he starts
• 1:25:43
  getting cornered. We get the feds and there's
• 1:25:45
  around like, because they said before, like whoever's doing
• 1:25:48
  this is experienced, like they, they know what they're doing.
• 1:25:50
  So they're like now checking out local hospitals and be like
• 1:25:55
  getting getting traces to this right here.
• 1:25:57
  And the guy's like having maybe we'll get a reveal of who it is.
• 1:26:00
  Like the face. Like, I don't know if it's
• 1:26:01
  supposed to be somebody that we saw how previously in the movie
• 1:26:05
  or if it's somebody that, you know, knew entirely and they
• 1:26:08
  just wanted to have a mystery. Or you just don't ever show the
• 1:26:10
  face at all whenever you do his shots.
• 1:26:14
  But yeah, you know, I think we got something.
• 1:26:16
  There OK what would Dom do? What would Dom do?
• 1:26:22
  First of all, through all man, I was gonna try and do the Mac
• 1:26:26
  thing. First of all, through Christ all
• 1:26:28
  things are possible, so jot that down.
• 1:26:30
  Yeah, so I was gonna make it family.
• 1:26:34
  Yeah, you know, he would not be OK with the doctor killing
• 1:26:38
  Mike's family after he made a deal because he's he's had to
• 1:26:42
  make some tough deals to try and save his family before and that
• 1:26:44
  didn't work out well. And his words and he does
• 1:26:46
  murdering after that. Happens.
• 1:26:47
  He he keeps his word. Yeah, the doctor is not a man of
• 1:26:49
  his words. So I think that this would
• 1:26:51
  become weirdly personal for Vin Diesel and Dom because it's not
• 1:26:56
  his family, but family got fucked.
• 1:26:58
  With Yeah, he's not about that. You don't fuck with family.
• 1:27:00
  Yeah, OK. All right.
• 1:27:02
  Who did you relate to? There was a moment where Moses
• 1:27:08
  was like pacing back and forth and annoyed Wesley because he
• 1:27:10
  was pacing. He's like, I gotta do this
• 1:27:12
  because it helps me think. You.
• 1:27:13
  You with your shaky foot. It's, well, no, I pace too.
• 1:27:17
  You're you're doing the shaky foot right now.
• 1:27:19
  I do the shaky foot like 24/7 like I can't not shake my.
• 1:27:23
  He does it like in the car while he's driving, if we're at a red
• 1:27:25
  light, he will shake his legs so hard.
• 1:27:28
  The whole. Car rocks.
• 1:27:29
  Does it rock the whole? Car.
• 1:27:30
  Yes, really. Yes.
• 1:27:32
  I wonder what people think about me whenever they see me park the
• 1:27:35
  car. It's like, damn, that guy's
• 1:27:35
  going. I hope people don't think that
• 1:27:39
  it's a good thing I don't have tinted.
• 1:27:41
  Windows because. People would maybe come to that
• 1:27:44
  conclusion. No, I mean, yeah, I've got my
• 1:27:48
  nervous sticks. I gotta do.
• 1:27:49
  OK. What about you?
• 1:27:51
  I mean, is it cheating for me to say that I relate to Amy?
• 1:27:53
  No, it's you, Amy Holden. Especially her character is an
• 1:27:57
  office administrator. It's on the on the tag.
• 1:28:01
  Which, yeah. Office coordinator.
• 1:28:04
  And that was my former job. Yeah, former life as an office
• 1:28:07
  coordinator, so. You know, this is like one of
• 1:28:10
  the best times for you to choose somebody to relate to, somebody
• 1:28:12
  that you are. Yeah.
• 1:28:14
  I mean, you, I really, I really threw myself into that role,
• 1:28:17
  yeah. You go method.
• 1:28:21
  I mean, obviously. Yeah, OK.
• 1:28:24
  All right. Do we have reviews?
• 1:28:26
  Do you have a? Review.
• 1:28:27
  Let me see. I put it up last night.
• 1:28:30
  Let's see if anybody has said anything since.
• 1:28:33
  No word. Zombie said he saw other
• 1:28:35
  podcasts talk about it. I said he's never heard of it
• 1:28:38
  before. Oh, buddy, now's the time.
• 1:28:40
  Now is the time to check it out because it is a.
• 1:28:43
  It's a good time. Like, yeah, I for this time of
• 1:28:46
  year, like New Year's Eve movies are really few and far between.
• 1:28:49
  So I definitely recommend checking it out.
• 1:28:53
  So unfortunately, here's the part where we have to talk about
• 1:28:55
  bad reviews regardless, because this is how it goes.
• 1:28:57
  This. Is how it goes.
• 1:28:57
  We like to hear other people's opinions and use it to challenge
• 1:29:01
  our own beliefs as well. Yeah, so I have went to IMDb and
• 1:29:05
  I did pull up one of the negative reviews here.
• 1:29:07
  So this is what somebody had to say.
• 1:29:09
  So 3 out of 10 it's titled Good Kills terrible, everything else.
• 1:29:13
  Oh no. The kills of this movie are
• 1:29:15
  ridiculous but fun. Unfortunately, almost everything
• 1:29:17
  else about this movie isn't. The writing is awkward, slow,
• 1:29:20
  and uninspiring. The actors that are good can't
• 1:29:22
  do anything with the dialogue and the actors that aren't good
• 1:29:25
  are excruciating to the point that you are checking your watch
• 1:29:28
  and praying for the scene to end.
• 1:29:30
  The director doesn't know how to film dialogue and action at the
• 1:29:33
  same time, so it's lame jokes and talking that takes way too
• 1:29:37
  long, over and over. When it's just kill after kill.
• 1:29:40
  The pace and the humor picks up, but never for long and
• 1:29:42
  definitely not for long enough. The end result is a mess that's
• 1:29:46
  just no fun. Felissa Rose can't save this
• 1:29:48
  movie, but she is one of the high points.
• 1:29:50
  It won't make you scared, it won't keep you guessing, and the
• 1:29:54
  only real, the only reason you'll be on the edge of your
• 1:29:57
  sea is the desperate desire to leave one.
• 1:30:00
  Kudos. The new Fear's Eve theme song
• 1:30:02
  over the credits. That was pretty damn good.
• 1:30:03
  It deserves a better movie. That's a little harsh.
• 1:30:06
  Right there. Yeah, that was definitely a
• 1:30:08
  little harsh. I think that I, I don't have any
• 1:30:10
  complaints with the directing. I, I think, I mean dialogue is
• 1:30:15
  one of those things that PJ is really good at and I think.
• 1:30:18
  Yeah, I liked it too. Yeah.
• 1:30:19
  I didn't think that there were any issues like with the the way
• 1:30:22
  it was directed for both the dialogue and the action either,
• 1:30:24
  you know, like, I mean, the, the whole point of like stuff like
• 1:30:27
  this is it's supposed to have peaks and valleys and, you know,
• 1:30:29
  there's like supposed to be downtime where it's dialogue.
• 1:30:31
  And I don't feel like there's like any wasted dialogue moments
• 1:30:34
  or anything in this right here. Like, you know, some of it's
• 1:30:36
  like either like comedic stuff, like a like a break, yeah,
• 1:30:42
  contention, or it's something that's at least moving the plot
• 1:30:46
  a little bit. You know, even if it's like
• 1:30:47
  subplots, stuff like that, like, you know, I don't feel like
• 1:30:50
  there's really any waste of time.
• 1:30:52
  And to juggle all that with the amount of girls that they had to
• 1:30:54
  do for this movie, I think it's impressive.
• 1:30:56
  Some people won't like it. Yeah, it's.
• 1:30:59
  It's just the nature of all art. It's the nature.
• 1:31:02
  Of all art and especially like more independent stuff like
• 1:31:05
  it's, it's not going to have that Hollywood shine to it.
• 1:31:08
  No, and I don't think everything should, especially with horror.
• 1:31:11
  No, like I think horror definitely thrives in this type
• 1:31:13
  of thing right here like this. Like for it being a low budget,
• 1:31:18
  like local production, I thought like, they fucking nailed it.
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  Yeah, it looks amazing for what they had and like, you know,
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  where they came from and everything like that.
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  I mean, obviously we are a little bit biased because we're
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  from the area and we know them, but like they know where they
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  came from. And like, yeah, how all of this
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  came to be definitely does help shape your opinion.
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  Like, because I mean, you know, like they they did a really good
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  job. I'm impressed with it.
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  I think that they did a great job.
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  Don't let that review sway you from not checking this out if
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  you don't want to, because I think it's a good time and it's
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  like only an hour and a half. So it's don't get killing a lot
• 1:31:56
  of time trying to sing out. Just be sure to watch it, give
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  it a fair chance, have fun with it.
• 1:32:02
  It's it's a movie that you're supposed to have fun with.
• 1:32:05
  Look, if you watch this movie in the 1st 5 minutes and you're not
• 1:32:08
  already like into it, then it won't be for you.
• 1:32:10
  But like, it puts itself out there right at the beginning and
• 1:32:13
  you know what you're in for right out the gate, so.
• 1:32:16
  It's not shy about what it is. Yeah.
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  So if that isn't enough for you right there, then it may not be
• 1:32:22
  for you. But I liked it.
• 1:32:23
  It hooked me up right out the gate with the like all the
• 1:32:26
  killings and the way it was done.
• 1:32:27
  Yeah, I liked it. OK, all right.
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  So that's it for movie #1 of 2026.
• 1:32:34
  Movie #2 of 2026. My birthday is on the 12th, so
• 1:32:40
  maybe that's coming out the the that we're covering the week
• 1:32:42
  before. It's going to be my birthday
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  pick. And I thought long and hard
• 1:32:48
  about this and it feels like the right time to discuss.
• 1:32:52
  Bring it on, cheer or die. Bring it on, cheer or die.
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  That's right, baby. Truthfully, I don't know if it's
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  streaming anywhere. We're still at the end of
• 1:33:00
  December while we're recording this, but even at the beginning
• 1:33:03
  of January I don't know if it's streaming anywhere.
• 1:33:04
  We had rented it from Prime one time and then we found it at
• 1:33:07
  Half Price Books so we own. This it's a sci-fi movie, so if
• 1:33:12
  you maybe have the sci-fi streaming app it might be there.
• 1:33:15
  Yeah, and honestly, the sci-fi stuff, it does pop up on Prime.
• 1:33:19
  That's where the good truth or dare comes.
• 1:33:20
  From a lot, yeah. So yeah, I mean I.
• 1:33:23
  Really hope that our patrons vote for the bad truth or dare
• 1:33:26
  just so that way. It's winning right now.
• 1:33:30
  Yeah, it is actually. I want people to be very
• 1:33:32
  confused. They see that truth or dare,
• 1:33:34
  they're like, well, Jessie did truth or dare for her birthday a
• 1:33:36
  few years ago. Why do we have this one?
• 1:33:39
  And then we see Helen, right? Yes, yeah.
• 1:33:41
  Bloom House. Yeah.
• 1:33:43
  Well, so we'll see what happens, but yeah, next week, next week
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  is Bring it on to your die. It is canonically a part of the
• 1:33:49
  Bring It On franchise. It's so crazy.
• 1:33:51
  Yeah, that's a perfect Jessie birthday movie right there.
• 1:33:54
  Yeah. OK, cool.
• 1:33:54
  Hold on. Yeah, that's something to look
• 1:33:57
  forward to. Yay.
• 1:33:58
  Yay. If you're just learning that
• 1:34:00
  Bring It On has a horror movie, you're welcome.
• 1:34:03
  Yeah, it's just man. It's exactly what you expected
• 1:34:08
  to be in a. Yeah, it really is.
• 1:34:11
  Yeah. Picture in your head.
• 1:34:12
  That's it. OK, cool.
• 1:34:13
  Well then that's what we'll be talking about next week.
• 1:34:15
  OK. In the meantime, we want to give
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  a shout out to our bubbies on the Patreon.
• 1:34:20
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• 1:34:21
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• 1:34:23
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• 1:34:27
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• 1:34:29
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• 1:34:31
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• 1:34:36
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• 1:34:51
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• 1:34:54
  who's listening. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:34:56
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• 1:35:09
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• 1:35:12
  So that'll be it for movie number one at 2026.
• 1:35:15
  Until next time, bye. All right, there's your hint to
• 1:35:32
  get it back going and get the interview done, Travis.
• 1:35:35
  OK, I thought you were like, I didn't know what you were doing
• 1:35:38
  there, but OK, that worries. I was trying to give some sort
• 1:35:40
  of a signal anyway, OK.